The Daily Zeitgeist - Dems: Filibuster Bad? NFTreats! 3.22.21

Episode Date: March 22, 2021

In episode 841, Jack and Miles are joined by Smart Mouth's Katherine Spiers to discuss the filibuster fight, Sharon Osbourne claiming she was set up, more Game Of Thrones spin-offs, Chipotle's new quesadilla, Addison Rae, junk food coming for NFTs, and more!FOOTNOTES: Republicans Know They’re Losing the Filibuster Fight Opinion: An intriguing reason that Republicans want to keep the filibuster "It will be Armageddon": Some Democrats fear midterm backlash without filibuster reform ‘The Talk’ producers ‘destroyed the show’ with Sharon Osbourne debacle ‘Game Of Thrones’: Sea Snake’s 9 Voyages Among Three More Spinoffs In Consideration At HBO Chipotle finally releases a quesadilla, and yes, it’s good WATCH: Best Addison Rae TikTok Dance Compilation 2020 WATCH: Addison Rae - Obsessed (Official Music Video) Why Pringles Is Selling a Can of Chips You Can't Eat for $180 The brands are at it again — Taco Bell is hopping on the NFT train Taco Bell Just Jumped On The NFT Bandwagon Pizza Hut Offers World's First NFT Pizza: Will Consumers Bite? Oh Great, Pizza Hut Is Getting Into the NFT Racket WATCH: The Weeknd - Crew Love ft. Drake (Shlohmo Remix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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consciousness uh it's monday march 22nd 2021 my name is jack o'brien aka straight up now, Jamie, did Samantha really shit on a sidewalk? Oh, no, no. Did her butt do a shit and run? Straight up now, tell me, did her booty really duke on the sidewalk? Yamaguchi, Maine. In reference to a season finale in which we discussed the, I guess, urban legend. I wasn't even able to find any evidence of it being an urban legend that Kim Cattrall took a poop on a sidewalk. Our guest has already noted that shows become just a lot of poop talk. With disappointment in her eyes. I mean, she was just doing thumbs down very aggressively with her. Just gesturing like, no, it wasn't the eyes.

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Thanks for having me. Hey, hey, hey. Been a while. Been a while. What's new? Yeah. I've been in Utah for three months. Oh, shit.

What's going on out there? Just my parents live here, so I kind of came out, hung out, was being a little bit athletic. And then two weeks ago, I was skate skiing like a real badass, flung myself backward, bruised my tailbone have been just lying down on my stomach ever since then so that's oh my spring what is skate skiing okay so you can imagine cross-country skiing uh-huh now sort of imagine that instead of going straight forward with the skis you're kind of doing like a rollerblading motion. Oh, okay. So out to the side. Yeah. Oh, so you're not on snow. No, you are.

It is on snow. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. Like skis, but like imagine if you had rollerblades, but instead of wheels, they had skis. Oh, but they're that length, basically? No, they're longer. Wait, so what's the difference in like if you're on flat land

and you're skiing and you kind of use a skating motion to like kind of cruise around? Like, you know, you kind of always, like on skis,is you kind of do that so i'm trying to figure out what's the difference so they just on skate skiing they've made the skis like a quarter of the width of regular skis so they just made it more dangerous oh got it cool that's actually what i'm always looking for in my skis is actually more danger and a higher degree of difficulty. So I'm glad you told me about that. And they got me good.

And you busted your tailbone like Steph Curry out here? So I must not have broken it because apparently if you break it, it takes a year to heal and I already feel better. But that freaks me out. If I just bruised my tailbone and that was the worst pain of my life, imagine breaking your tailbone. I can't. I was actually crying, which I was thinking, like, I've broken my ankle. I didn't cry then. Like, this made me weep.

It was terrible. I don't recommend it. It's wild because so much can pass through your tailbone, like, up your spine, too. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's such a, yeah, we got to look out for those tailbones. We do. Because I remember in high school football, like, I remember freshman year, like, I didn't play football because I wanted a summer. like it's such a yeah it's something we got to look out for those tails we do because i remember

a high school football like i remember freshman year all like i didn't play football because i wanted a summer so when my friends were like damn hell week above i was like yo what's that weird butt pad you got so he's for your tailbone you can get a concussion if you find your tailbone i'm like okay well i'm smoking weed you get a concussion through your tailbone if you come straight down on that shit or at least that was the urban legend that had all the yeah no that makes sense that makes sense i think yeah i looked it up a little bit and all the doctors are like remember your tailbone is part of your spine so it's like funny to joke about breaking your butt which it is like i find the humor in that it like

could go wrong for sure i actually had already bought rollerblades for the summer and then i went online and like found like a roller derby warehouse and bought padded shorts because I'm going to be too afraid to do anything without tailbone coverage. Right. Just wearing like hockey pants and shit. Yeah. Yep.

Yeah. Just in general, I tend to not, I don't suspect football players of being too cautious about concussions or foot. That's why by the time you see college football there's no one has that equipment anymore like right it's a very there at that point you're like look bro i've already had three going in here come on man let's just yeah all right katherine

we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about filibuster talk is evolving uh we're going to talk about that we're going to talk about sharon osborne we're going to talk about uh more game of thrones prequel uh revelation uh we're going to talk about chipotle having a quesadilla and it's apparently good is that a surprise though like you're the whole chipotle like fucking that up yeah no no i just i feel like the public's reception of chipotle is generally uh not as positive as mine is personally so it's good it's good to hear that people are just like yeah this is great okay well done coming after your chipotle okay leave chipotle alone uh we'll talk about addison ray just i i'm gonna do some confusion trolling as it was termed uh before we start recording

uh we'll talk about who this is i'm just explain this to me and why you like i'm just confused person it's bad it's not bad uh yeah uh we'll talk about NFTs, all of that. Plenty more. But first, Catherine, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that is revealing about what you're up to? Just a lot of like, what's the deal with Substack? Is Substack transphobic? So do you guys know what Substack is? It's a newsletter platform. And it hasn't been around that long. transphobic. So do you guys know what Substack is? It's a newsletter platform. Right. And it hasn't been around that long. And it was supposed to be like this great new hope for journalists because it's like, you can do your own thing, you can make your own money. And everyone,

including me, is like, yay, newslettering, that seems cool. But then it turns out that they've been giving money to certain writers, writers who tend to be white men who already have a platform. certain writers writers who tend to be white men who already have a platform and they're like no we're we it's private if people want to talk about us giving them money they can but it's not up to us it's private um so they're doing that thing where they're saying that they're they don't have an editorial platform they're like this is an editorial this is just like the way that you get your newsletter out there but then they pay certain people to use the platform so i would argue that they do have an editorial point of view i mean and a lot of people have been so i have my newsletter on it and they're like paying people to say transphobic stuff i'm like well oh really companies are doing well

essentially i mean if they're paying someone who says transphobic stuff, then they're paying someone to say transphobic stuff, right? Yeah. Yeah. And not that my newsletter makes, this is not going to change my lifestyle if I don't have a newsletter for a while. But it's just, I hate how everything like, what's that thing? The milkshake duck? Like you can milkshake duck anything eventually. Everything's bad. Everything turns out to be evil. What's milkshake duck like you can milkshake duck anything eventually everything's bad everything turns out to be evil what's milkshake duck yeah i don't know what you're

talking about oh okay so it comes from this meme oh gosh now i'm not going to be able to explain it well but it comes from meme culture essentially where like you find out that something is or you think that something's really cool the framing framing of it. Yes, yes. The framing of it. Yeah, where you see something and then you expand the image and you're like, wait, in this image, the milkshake's drinking a duck. Zoom out. It has a swastika armband on its foot. And you're like, yeah.

Yes, exactly. Oh, okay. So it's like, I mean, maybe and maybe that would happen to all of us. Maybe we should all get offline before we get milkshake ducked because none of us are perfect. So that's what I'm thinking about as an erstwhile member of the media these days. All right. Now explain to me, what is a meme? Yeah.

I'm just joking. Oh, my God. You almost got me there. You're like, oh, shit. Hey, what's Chewbacca mask, lady? Just this is the podcast where people explain memes to me. Yeah. Hey, what's Chewbacca mask lady? What does that mean? People explain memes to me. Yeah.

I remember when Cropto was describing TikToks, I think was one of my favorite ones. It's like at this song where it's like, oh, no, no, no. What is something you think is overrated? Okay. So this is in my own personal opinion, and I'm not a CPA or a lawyer, but I think it's overrated to be afraid of the IRS. I think people really freak out, and they are afraid of being audited, even if they aren't criminals. And they're afraid that if you do do a criminal activity, you will definitely get arrested. So from my personal experience.

Go off, Wesley. Yeah, I know, right? You're going to scare the IRS. I think I was thinking about that and he must have just been like, no, I didn't cheat on my taxes. No, I didn't. Because if you're like, yeah, I did. They're like, okay, we're setting up a payment plan. My dad's second wife, when they were still married, she did do a malfeasance.

And because they were married, he signed all the tax paperwork. And then the IRS found out and they were like, hey, come on. And they were like, we know. And so they put them on a payment plan just to pay it off. And that's it. And then when my dad died, I knew he hadn't finished paying it off because he was homeless. So of course he didn't. And I called the IRS and I said, hey, my dad died and he owed you money. And the woman said, did he have a wife? And I said, no. And she said, did he have an estate? And I said, ha ha ha. And she said, okay, his debt is erased. And that's it. like everyone thinks that you're gonna if you die with debt your your people are gonna have to pay for it no so again only in my

personal experience is like but if you fuck up your taxes just own up to it and you're gonna be fine and the irs people the customer service at the irs is actually really nice just takes a while to get a hold of them if you want to get them on the phone sometimes. As somebody who's, yeah, I've had my few run-ins with the Internal Revenue Service. And I had the same evolution too where I was like, oh man, like I won a sweepstakes years ago. Like first

time ever in my life. Really? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it was like a contest but it had a prize and shit and my band won and so my dumb ass was on the tax paperwork. So suddenly I'm getting all these like materials and other things that I didn't know. You know, this is the time I was broke as fuck. I don't know how taxes work.

So I don't know. Y'all just fucking keep it. And they're like, yeah, motherfucker, you was like eight grand. I'm like, what? I didn't know. And for the longest time, I thought they were going to come to my house, kick the door down, like arrest my mom, like set my dog on fire and like be like, oh, like what the fuck I'm going to do until I talked to my dad, who is an adult who has been through it.

And he's like, just talk to them, you fucking idiot. Like, it's not. Why do you think that's what's going to happen? I don't know. Wesley Snipes went to jail. Yeah. And he's like, he was so flagrant with it. And I was like right okay right

i think i think that ultimately the iris just wants their money more than they want to punish you which is so un-american but yeah they really just want the money right because you can be like we owe this much and like can i give you 50 bucks a month and they're like yeah yeah fine fine fine all right take care man catch you catch you later out there what the fuck you have motherfuckers knocking on my door dropping off like six pound envelopes and shit yeah yeah but then as soon as you agree to your ten dollar a month payment plan they're like bye at the very least just talk to a tax preparer because that was the like after my dad and then talking to someone they're like oh okay like and you can feel off the energy from an accountant when you tell them the situation they're like oh okay so we'll. Like and you can feel off the energy from an accountant when you tell them the situation.

They're like, oh, OK, so we'll do this. And you're like, wait, I don't have to climb a mountain and give a blood offering to some kind of deity. No. OK. That's totally like when I'm in an airplane and there's turbulence. I immediately look for the flight attendants and every time they're just like chilling and I'm like, oh, OK, good. Same vibe. Yeah. I think my fear comes from from a seinfeld episode where he was audited did that happen and he like had to find all the receipts that he didn't have and yeah yeah also yeah my dad was audited too i remember as a kid and it was like i remember being too young but i remember the word and how stressed my dad was and him like looking through boxes and i was like i don't want that but now everything's digital like it's such a different time now it's like yeah i can summon bank records like that exactly yeah exactly i've

heard that like part of if you're paying like a private accountant not like h&r block but if you're paying big bucks for an accountant kind of what you're paying for is protection and not having to deal. Yeah, because if they're the ones who did your taxes, the IRS will come to them first. All that to say, they're setting up the taxes codes and plans to be so fucking confusing that we can't just do it. So many other countries have way better processes for this kind of shit, where they're actually the ones keeping tabs and be like, okay, here's your bill. Here's your bill.

Yeah. Rather than like, yeah. Counting on people to like fuck up and not be able to get the maximum, you know, a return or what they're owed. So it's just, what if the restaurant made you figure out the market price for like the

fish that day? We're like, all right, so here are the economic conditions and the fish market out of Russia, which is where we imported this from. I import all my fish from Russia when I go out to eat. There's actually

a column about that very thing in the LA Times. I think it came out on Friday by Lucas Kwan Peterson, and it's about how we don't understand food costs and we should all be paying more money. Oh, wow. We're paying for cheap we're paying too too little for food yeah yeah in terms of like how it how the cost bears out for like the restaurant itself to run as a business or like what the actual costs are for them for the product well

for the restaurants itself and then you know further down the supply chain the farms and yeah yep processors all that sort of stuff yep yep and finally what is something that you think is underrated i think stamp collecting is underrated especially when you weaponize your stamps i know this is hot What does that even mean? Okay, so my landlord still takes paper checks and so when I send them in, I put a stamp

of a clown on the envelope. Face! Face! Fuck you, landlord. Get your fuck you, landlord, landlord forever stamps that would actually be dope yeah yeah they should just put slogans on them for sure yeah i feel like it they're not like you know wildly like problematic or racist or whatever phobic like you should be able to be like hey clown ass yes here's your money chump stamps, I think would be good.

I would buy so many rolls of those. And it's just a middle finger. Yes. Oh, shit. That would be a great, yeah, just a middle finger. That would be iconic. Everybody would use that. Or side business.

You just start a paper company that you make bes bespoke envelopes to send your bills like in that are like hey asshole eat shit you greedy motherfucker hope this passive income helps you on your course to whatever the fuck it is you do in that unit that you barely go into that just smells like old pottery shit in there i don't whatever kind of a long-winded thing but you took my idea and really like leveled it up a lot that's what we do this is it's like nathan for you for petty ideas yeah nice now i have to ask the question like what when are nfts gonna get in the game with the stamp collectors guys i mean wait are you are you actually collecting stamps though like actually i kind of am yeah like there's a lot of really pretty ones for the past couple years they've been doing gorgeous lunar new year stamps and

then they have some that teach when you were children did you guys read the book the snowy day about a little kid just yeah walking through the snow and it's a lot of orange colors yeah um they have snowy day stamps now and like it kind of makes me cry so i bought those of course i bought marvin gaye stamps because he's cool you know yeah and then clown stamps okay ezra jack keats that is uh on my kids bookshelf right now and uh it's never not heartbreaking to me when he brings the uh snowballs in in his pocket and then he's like what what happened where where they go and why are my pockets wet oh i know it's a good book i just remember it looking at this cover it reminds me of like that metal the caldecott

metal like that would be on kids books yeah i just had a very visceral response to seeing that on a cover because like for a while i remember that was like the the way the parents would be like yeah that's probably good enough totally that's probably yeah that'll do does it have that gold thing on it or not all right yeah don't get it don't get it don Don't get it. They might end up not smart. My kid was reared on purely Caldecott metal quality work. Oh, wow. A little bit. Wow. Yeah.

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app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. I was trying to think of something that is equivalent of Caldecott Metal, and the only thing I can think of is the time when I was like in middle

school and, uh, like the parental advisory sticker was like, if a album didn't have that, I like wasn't fucking with it. Yeah. I was like, this sucks.

Why? Yeah. What is, do we have any, I guess maybe like a Twitter verified check. Right. Yeah. People that are like, Oh, cool, and just have a response not thinking. That must mean famous.

I think you're right, and it makes me think about shifting standards, let's say, for quality. Right, where now it's like, well, is the influencer who wrote this children's book on black and white race relations who is a white man, does he have Twitter verified? Because that's what matters to me about this book, not the nuance. If so, no further questions. Okay, they are? Great. Called Let's Cancel Cancel Culture. Hold on. Wait a second.

All right, let's talk filibuster uh because this conversation is ongoing it's vital you know because the whole thing the whole rub of the this administration is hey i'm gonna do all this shit y'all vote for me and the shit will get done. But then there's the filibuster and you have an entire party who's not willing to do anything that would benefit anyone except for like high earners in the form of tax cuts. So, yeah, in the last week, things have changed. We talked about how Biden has started to soften and he said he's open now. Before he said, like, I don't think it's necessary. Now he said he's open to hearing, you know, ways to amend it, not completely obliterate it.

Joe Manchin is still aggro, but still slightly more open. And Martin Heinrich from New Mexico, the senator over there, he's down now. He's like, no, we need to get rid of this shit. Like more people and some people are coming up like, no, we got it. We need to fucking end this thing because you know i think a lot of people realize midterms is a real thing and you need people to be enthusiastic to go out to vote and if you promise a bunch of stuff and deliver nonsense then they're not going to be motivated so jeff merkeley from oregon saying his whole idea around the filibuster is like, we have to do this shit. And his quote is quote, our base is going, what a bunch of idiots you are.

You campaigned on this stuff and you're going to let the Republicans have a simple majority pathway while you just say, well, I'm sorry, but we can't get anything done because McConnell's blocking us. They expect us to have, they expect us to have the same guts to get things done that the Republicans had to get their agenda done. Yep. Exactly. That's right. Everyone is saying what a bunch of idiots you are. That's so crazy to have a politician talking like a real person like that. Yeah. Talking about what's going on.

He's always like, you know, he's pretty outspoken. But, yeah, I think I think he has to frame it in that way way because rather than getting caught up on the decorum it's like god no there's going to be repercussions in the midterms for not delivering that's it's that simple it's just purely like they're not going to want to come out because they're going to think uh they've just the party's completely taken advantage of their support which they pretty much have been doing for a long time now but here's a moment where you think like there's enough people on the right side of things to be like, yeah, let's push forward to something aggressive. Is the is the thing that's kind of changing their tune?

Because it's usually in politics like something needs to happen. There needs to be like polling. There needs to be something that you know proves to them from a self-interested perspective that like this is in their best interest is it just they're waking up is it that the republicans are so aggressively pursuing voter suppression like i think it's all those things because on one level it's like well biden can't get his agenda done that's not good for him at all and he knows that like as much as he wants to think maybe there's a bipartisan way around it to not get anything done is it was not going to look good for the party in general. Then there's all the voter suppression that's happening, which, if it happens, is setting up a game, a rigged game in which it would be very hard for Democrats to get reelectelected even if they were delivering because of how rampant the voter suppression is so it really does uh behoove

them to be like yeah we need to start getting we need to make these reforms real like to nip this in the bud because if we have fair elections chances are we're going to do a lot better than fuckery uh induced elections and you know biden met with stacy abrams over the weekend where i'm sure the urgency of passing voter reforms was discussed and there's no way you can't link that to filibuster talk because she's been very vocal about do not let this decorum this idea of like not changing the rules of the senate get in the way of like obliterating whatever this form of democracy we have is here and mcconnell is still pump faking it's all pump faking he's hezy hezy with it uh he's not he's not out here shooting he's just

he just knows that like you know his whole tactic is well then i will burn this mother down and then it'll be concealed carry and no sanctuary cities and abortions blah blah but the thing is like all the legislation that they would want to pass eventually would just lead to Republican losses because everything is massively unpopular. Like they're not really they're not pushing for things that have like 60 percent support. Like people who want to end up like sanctuary cities polls low. So now you're going to put other Republicans at risk in other elections. So I think he knows, too. all he can do is be like don't do it don't do it because their whole thing is it's just guns abortion defunding and it's nothing

new and i think when they also see how you know 70 of americans supported the stimulus package that's that looks the democrats are like oh shit maybe we shouldn't listen to the republicans and water this down and republicans are like oh fuck people like help so yeah i feel like the republicans know what they're doing though right like that's the i think that's the thing like when you compare the like mark louis doing when he was like i mean we should be as at least as aggressive as them like the the Republicans from step one are strategizing as we are a insurgent party representing a minority viewpoint that is, you know, all this shit to get things done. Whereas the Democrats, I don't know, I feel like they don't have the courage of their convictions. Oh, exactly.

I think that Republicans are much more honest with themselves about the evil that they want to do from the jump. Whereas sometimes with the Democrats, I feel like they like are a month behind on Twitter or something because they'll like way after the people have spoken, they'll be like, hey, oh, shoot. Oh, shoot. We might lose the Georgia midterms if we don't do what we promised multiple times we would do. Gosh, darn it.

Right. I think that's why, you know, they know though because what they want it doesn't pull well they know that like they know because we've seen this before they tried to gut medicare for all uh and or not medicare for all but like obamacare and things like that and there was massive pushback and they retreated you know and they've tried or like other senators you know you'll have john mccain be like oh shit i can't get down with this like a lot of pressure is created when they try for these things not to say that they are not able to do them but that's why mostly they like to go for this you know stack the pack the courts

and do tax cuts because that isn't stuff that requires a lot like you can just do that along party lines and just focusing on like culture war things because with like the things that the democrats are actually going after is like truly they're looking for like substantive change which would be harder for republicans to reverse if they if they pass these laws it's one thing to be like okay we'll fund planned parenthood again when we get the senate or the white house or we'll we'll just take that other thing away so they're playing very different games and i think at the end of the day, they know what they're doing, but it's a terrible hand they're playing right now. And it's so transparently bad

that we know Mitch McConnell. This is not like, OK, there's nothing new about what you're saying. You try this shit all the time without anyone supporting you. And then on the other side of it, you have like there's talks now of like group of senators who are republicans that are willing to work in a bipartisan manner but i don't think they're i think that's just some good cop bad cop shit they're still at the same thing and like by offering a group of you know uh senators who are republicans that are willing to work that offers them a really easy way to start just diluting it watering it down arguing about it versus being like, no, fuck y'all. We've seen your mask is gone, sir. There's no mask anymore at this point. And we're not doing business with radioactive

waste, even though some of it is in our own party, too. I feel like you're a lot more confident in that Republicans will end up flailing than I am. I don't know. I just feel like they're evil. Yeah. Not that they're going to flail or whatever, but it's not a good, it doesn't like in the longterm,

it will not play out. I don't think the same way. Like that's why they have to go with such aggressive draconian measures. They're like, so I think abrupt that it starts becoming national news very quickly which is the only reason i think the democrats now are like oh wait how many states are trying to do things that could affect us huh oh right so now we have to do something but yeah i mean i think with all that said i think the democrats are more than willing to just fall into this fucking stupid

bipartisan dance uh for they can everyone can pat themselves on the back act like they did something didn't do anything and everybody gets to go home and get re-elected agreed that seems more likely to me just in general because that's the that's the pace of which like america changes it's glacial right yeah yeah i mean i think part of the problem is the democrats are also trying to please the donors and the donor class as well as the people. Whereas, you know, the Republican Party line, they can openly be trying to please the donor class and that will please a lot of the same people, or at least they can distract them with just. of the same people or at least they can distract them with just it just seems like even though the republicans have a smaller group like in some ways they're strategically better set up to aggressively pursue their hateful agenda i think the difference is they're aware of the existential

threat that faces their party right so they know they have to slam the gas. There's no way you can't they can't coast to the end. Like it's their last hand to play is just the most aggressive voter suppression you've ever seen. And to try and just like lock up the way this country is able to vote to stay just to keep on to that power. There's no like that's why I think the difference the democrats like i don't know like maybe this will go on they're not they're they don't realize that the people themselves are facing existential threats and are looking for that same energy from politicians right no democrats do coast yeah they're just like it's all good we'll figure it out and because i think they're living like they think everyone is like living in 2012 like a 12 or something like that like yeah i don't know it's fine it's not that bad like pandemic like it wasn't that bad i only know three people that passed away so yeah just a lot of i think just different levels of perception and different stakes for different parties but to everyone's point the reason they are so aggressive is because they know like they can't half step

they're just ghoulish shit because if it if they do evil in slow motion it allows people to sort of like catch on like oh wait hold on that's evil uh let's talk sharon osborne she another victim yeah you know uh poor poor sum out for sharon osborne uh who evoked the spell of cancel culture by speaking, just being like proudly, loudly ignorant. Yeah. Yeah. Capen for a racist.

Yep. That'll usually pull up the council bus to your party. And then the other thing is like, then when they, when people show up and say, Hey, what the fuck was that? That's when you have to apologize correctly to try and move forward as a person.

But that apology wasn't that great and didn't show much growth or a willingness to see a new perspective so things are getting rocky and now there's like talk that she's gonna walk from that show that people don't watch and essentially demanding money on the way out so this is from page six quote the network will have to pay her a sizable settlement to keep her quiet after this the source said she could write a book she would do a world of interviews she knows where all the bodies are buried what the fuck you're not leaving the trump administration yeah this is probably just severance payment or right yeah i don't think well it's of course yeah exactly exactly she kind of makes me think of i feel like this is a thing that sometimes happens with specifically

reality tv personalities especially women who get famous at first and beloved um because they're so outspoken it kind of reminds me of nini leaks from real housewives of atlanta and bethany frankl from real housewives of new york where everyone first season, everyone's like, oh, she just says what's on her mind. She's a hoot, which was the same thing with Sharon Osbourne when her show was on. Right, right. And they're like, yeah, yeah, everything I say is hilarious and good. And then they keep talking. Everyone's like, whoa.

Yeah. Oh, you didn't realize they were editing that show. That's the difference fam we didn't just say hit the switch sharon and go off honey uh no and that's the thing i'm curious to know what the like this weird bodies are buried thing is so sure but they also go on to say like she's blaming the showrunners for like her comments because they didn't prepare her which i think is fair to a certain extent more so that like if you're running a show and it was clear based on the other stories that came out about sharon osborne how she was saying wild racist shit all the time that if one of your co-hosts or hosts is a known racist ghoul maybe don't include them in a nuanced conversation around race as a show runner but that's a very good point like or everybody's so ignorant over there like no

she'll be fine like we're all kind of in this weird fucking headspace where we don't even see the nuance of anything either and then they're like oh shit right right right that's a hot take they probably didn't know how offensive she was it takes white people a long time yeah i mean god an alternate theory would be that she's awful to deal with and they just set her up for it because they were to get the fuck off the show which i think that is that probably happens behind the scenes oh yeah More often than people would. You can't win the battle of, well, we're just not going to bring her back because there's agents and managers and politics, all sorts of stupid bullshit studio politics involved.

And so you have to get Machiavellian. They just set her up. She pulled up to the toll booth and the dude just ducked. She was like, what's going on at this toll booth? And then they came out with the Tommy guns. Look at how they massacred my Sharon. All right, let's talk briefly

about some Game of Thrones prequel news, I guess. Just a question for everybody how many to your knowledge game of thrones like added series have did you know existed right now if you could say off top what would you say books or no like going into tv things that were going to become tv one one yeah oh yeah i think generally we like heard of like they're gonna do something like one that was like mud or like something like that yeah so so there are right now there's three in like in development the long night house of the dragon and tales of dunk and egg that's the one i was thinking of yeah which sounds like a really fun animated series. I mean, is that the comedy Game of Thrones?

Seriously. Right. That's the better call Saul. I'm not sure what the dunk and egg verse is quite about, but now they're like adding two more shows. Oh, thank God. I'm sorry. I was worried there for a second.

I'm sorry. Three more shows. Oh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Nine Voyages, also known as Sneasnake, Flea Bottom, and 10,000 Ships. I believe that is Sea Snake, but I wish it were Sneasnake because that would be fun. Sneasnake. There's also talk of a possible animated series.

For children or for adults? I don't know. I don't children or for adults i don't know i don't know catherine i don't know children i'm protesting in the streets this is like no absolutely not for various reasons yeah i'm sorry i i shouldn't have expected you to know that was no i don't i'm just saying i don't i'm more than anything uh i'm just gonna do some confusion trolling i'm just confused like what's going on with hbo like i'm sure gonna do some confusion trolling i'm just confused like what's going on with hbo like i'm sure these are probably compelling stories and i'll probably watch them if they're you know they're budgeted properly and they're not all white but they are like i don't it sounds like hbo just like a like cannot get past the glory days of when the series was on

so like their new trick is to just like have a bunch of diluted game of Thrones IP out there to try and like cobble together some like behemoth Voltron ratings thing that like gives you the equivalent of, but I'm like, can't y'all develop new shit? Like y'all saw McKinsey, what they said, the industry like will gain money.

If you, if you tell diverse stories, you don't want to do that. I'm fucking even Ja Rule figured out new songs after holla, though it is a great song he tried but yeah come on i i too am just asking questions but i thought that well maybe now i'm not asking a question i'm just thinking maybe they're trying to use these new series to sort of right the wrongs because game of thrones the tv show was misogynist it was racist it was like actually the sexual violence on it what i thought was really awful um and then i thought people hated the last season in the last episode especially so are they

like trying to go back in and like be like oh no we have like all these different character lines and stuff you're gonna love it no they're just lazy never mind that's so stupid i mean i think we know they think they smell blood in the water and they're like yep money money money let's do it i want people to not watch it i want to make people not watch it like can nobody watch it ever i think i think people it's like just it's just like that weird x you know like where 70 of the memories were like decent and you're like but you know it ended for a reason you know the shit ended for a reason and as much as like there was there was a lot of good i'm kind of off that like i'm a different person now um i'm not the same i was in 2017 but with the x i feel like the happy memories float to the top. Whereas I think all anybody remembers about Game of Thrones is that last.

Or like, that's all. That's what sticks with me. Is that. Well, it all depends on who broke up with who. Right. Right. That's where the memory. That's how you know which memory is going to take precedence.

Also, are we just all being incredibly online people who just read what twitter what is said on twitter but actually the vast majority of people loved the last season no i i mean when you look at the when you look at the imdb scores it's like for the public the ones that the public's able to vote on it was like universally in the nines like unprecedentedly high for every episode up until like the starting with episode three of the last season it was like down in the sixes everyone's like what the fuck uh it just it seemed like that there was broadly uh a consensus that the the ending they lost the plot but to that point i think there are people who are thinking of the 70 percent of the good times and are ready for that what you doing text yeah x and be like what am i doing

i'm subscribing to hbo max honey yeah a lot of people are waiting for those texts yeah lives yeah but what's but those texts which will come in the form of trailers will say a lot right because i'm curious to know when they start trickling out of that. I think that will really give us the true gauge of how much we're willing to go back to Westeros. Or if we're just kind of like, eh, maybe do something new. Yeah.

I'm more confident that I will want to see Avatar 6 than I am that I want to see any of these things. All order. But they seem like they're in the same family of things that I can't imagine giving a shit about in the future that people will probably just because of the

sheer amount of money and talent and energy putting into it. It's like, well, I guess we're watching this shit. Or it could be one of those things where, look, plenty of things we want to development and go out of development so in the process they may they may realize that this isn't the way but i don't know yeah especially the shows from hbo uh that are somehow tied to game of thrones such as conf or Confederacy from Benioff the antebellum love fighter

yes what if like no not what just what if shut up fool don't even finish that motherfucking sentence what if I fuck you up how about that alright let's take a quick break and we'll be right

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Do you like a good dia? Sometimes. Catherine is a food expert, writer, journalist. What kind of cheese? I know. I was going to be like, hold on. I want to investigate. You don't like a quesadilla or you think there's a specific way to quesadilla?

I actually think it's a textual issue. When there's like a big a ton of melted cheese i think i can't hang same way that i can't hang with grilled cheese so oh i could do like a very thin crisp quesadilla so you like thin pizzas too like a neapolitan you like it and pizza is can be too cheesy for you like you have met a pizza that was too cheesy for you you know i don't know if i've met a pizza that's too cheesy i can imagine i can imagine a world where there's a pizza that's too cheesy but no i haven't met it myself also i'm might be completely lying because there's a quesadilla a sweet chili chicken quesadilla on the koge truck yes exactly yeah

it's real good yeah the blackjack quesadilla too i like all the quesadillas on the Kogi truck? Yes. Exactly. It's real good. The blackjack quesadilla too. I like all the quesadillas on the Kogi truck. So yeah. Yeah. Maybe I'm lying on your show.

Maybe I love quesadillas. Well, there's a good there's a good there's a good protein to cheese ratio in that. And I get what you mean when you don't want to just

especially like when a quesadilla gets like colder and then it's like a thick cheese okay this isn't melted but you're like just a hunkadilla gets like colder and then it's like a thick chia okay this isn't melted just a hunk of cheese

with chicken chunks so the takeout just reviewed the new chipotle quesadilla chipotle had quesadilla they had the burrito quesadilla much better title than burrito.

D uh, that one is pretty good, but it's like a special menu item. Um, that's where they put a second burrito size tortilla on the outside and outside and put a little cheese in it. Uh, so it's basically a combo.

Um, and then you, for kids, you can get a cheese quesadilla that is just melted cheese between two things. They have created a quesadilla that

comes in its own packaging. It's folded like a Crunchwrap Supreme. And according to the takeout, it is a structural marvel as much or maybe more than a culinary one in that it is crispy all the way around and has the Chipotle ingredients well distributed throughout. And they put it in a box that has like little dipping. Yeah.

I'm taken aback by the amount of side condiments that they're giving you in this. Like, it looks like two spoons of sour cream, a fat ass spoonful of guacamole and then pico de gallo. But, uh, okay. I'm sure that's salsa of your choice. I'm a medium. You know, I don't have time. I don't have time to with empty flavors i need it to burn my tongue do you order this quesadilla um is it like what do you call it buffet style the way that you get it all the other menu items there or do you have to order it as like do they make it for you you have to order it ahead of time um and they go down the street and get it

from a different restaurant i get it now but uh no yeah you actually they do require that you uh order it ahead on the it's only available through the app seriously i don't know how much of that is them trying to increase app adoption and how much of it is uh that like it requires some strange uh summoning of of magical quesadilla properties to to make it happen i like this shout out to its structural integrity that's not i like it that's an odd compliment but it's intriguing uh i don't know if i like i'm really intrigued by this or really just like the writer who yeah review i thought they did a good job like made interesting marks to dennis lee for writing this one up because it's yeah my man you're just

talking about a fucking quesadilla but i'm like go no go in now you're riveted please talk about the engineering and the heat from the quesadilla won't accidentally warm up the sour cream or guacamole the way he's talking about how it's all partitioned yeah i think i'm actually more in love with the description but i'm gonna i'm gonna get one this weekend if if i have anything to say about it you're gonna download a motherfucking app i might not oh yeah i already have oh shit okay never mind oh you love it the app is the app is crucial for uh feeding the kids on oh yeah weekend punch it in uh when i don't feel like cooking all right let's can we talk about addison ray real quick yes can we yes i love i love addison ray big fan yeah i know you've been telling me

you've been saying there's this artist that i really want you to check out uh for a long time now yeah i was saying like forget aretha franklin forget billy holiday forget beyonce it's all about this addison ray character i mean really mean, really something else, really something. And by that, by that, I mean, I don't know who the fuck this person is or what they're doing. And I don't know if this is dancing,

but this is also a great mirror to know how old I am. Yeah, yeah, exactly. This is a Sophie special where, well, one of our youngest EPs sent it to the thread and was like, I request you cover this on daily zeitgeist.

And I watched the video and was just kind of confused. Like even Joel was like, wait, is this the new Friday? Like, is this a joke where you like laugh at the person, but like, they're not in on the joke or,

and I, I'm still not sure. Right so her tiktok she's the second most followed person on tiktok her tiktoks are her doing dances and she like when she's doing a dance right in front of her phone and that's all she's doing and like they're all like 10 seconds and she screws up halfway through and like makes a funny face and was like ah my bad and then that's the end of it and that's how all of them end and then so her this music video is just a straight up like influenced by you know like classic like j-lo britney spears like music videos with like change of wardrobe every two seconds uh backup

dancers that she's dancing with you know they're clearly hired a choreographer but she looks just like so out of her element the faces she's making and the like how bad she looks when she's dancing in the video make it seem like made me suspect it was a really nuanced confusion. I'm just confused because I, I'm just, it's doing numbers. It does numbers. Um,

and just as somebody who likes dance, dancing, knows choreographers, uh, and knows that industry, you know, she should have done the thing where like, don't put,

don't put dancers around you who are killing the choreo like that. That enhances your lack of being on beat and, you know, hitting the fucking counts. But I don't know. It's just like, I'm old. And that's when I realized, I'm like, I don't know. And she was, I know this is what the kid's like. I'm old too, but I did used to be a girl.

And her appeal actually reminds me a lot of how Britney Spears, how Britney Spears appealed to girls. Like she can kind of dance. Right, right, right, right. She definitely has flat abs, but like she's dance. Right, right, right, right. She definitely has flat abs. But, like, she's cute. Right. Yeah.

But, like, Britney, yeah. Do you agree, though, that Addison Rae is, like, not, like, she's more awkward than Britney Spears? I think Addison Rae. Britney Spears is at least a passable professional performer who looks very comfortable on camera. I was shocked to find out that this person is on camera for a living. On phone. Yeah.

On phone cameras. Did you know she got an actual record deal? Yeah. Exactly. This song is produced by famous famous like producers who work with like justin bieber and shit yeah but sometimes you just want a paycheck i mean right you know but she's um yeah i don't know because i actually thought she was 16 because i was like this girl right is the most popular girl at school but she's actually a dork but then i found out she was 20 and i was like

embarrassing right yeah yeah you know cool i just take all of this with a grain of i called nickelodeon nintendo earlier uh on a call we were doing a development call and somebody mentioned the show a show that was on Nickelodeon. I was like, oh, isn't that that show from Nintendo? It was bad. And everyone was like, uh, and I just hung up and tendered my resignation immediately. But yeah, so this is all old man shit. But I'm just trying to from anybody who ir irrespective of age if you've seen music

videos before like you have some context for trying to understand what genre this is supposed to be um and it's it's uh it has some strange elements to it just watch the addison ray compilation on mute yeah and you will and you will start hallucinating I'm not joking I don't know I'm like what the fuck you know I think it's to your point though there is like an accessibility like she's democratizing what it

means to even be a pop star because it's not you're not you don't have to be hitting like Beyonce does on stage you just have a you could do a little body rolling you got a little bit of a voice or whatever and i think maybe this is just kind of the natural evolution as we see like how many apps and different like forms of social media are giving people inroads to like more traditional careers i also think there's a white girl thing here too

where she's like jack kind of to your point she She's a little bit like I'm just goofing. Just yeah. Yeah. Pay me money. And it works. And it's ridiculous. I'm not taking it too seriously. So if I mess up, that wasn't the point.

OK. Exactly. Right. Yes. She largely has the energy of like a cheerleader who's like only really like half into into the dance choreography and is more just like kind of chilling on the sideline like that's her I get I like watching the TikTok compilation I'm like I get why people are into her as a TikToker but the music video is so as old people were like as

people who remember hype Williams music videos in the heyday of MTV, we cannot stand. People are doing a disservice to you, Addison, right? With this video. I don't want to see the edge of your seamless backdrop in a music video. I'm sorry. I don't want to. That's just a production value thing.

And that's me being a snobby production person. But look, it's a pandemic. I get it. Like, you can't really hit that many locations. So you found one studio that was unscrupulous enough to have that many people in there without masks on to make your video. So, yeah, shout out. Oh, there was another thing. I think her TikTok personality, there's the luxury is extremely apparent.

Yeah. Like, she's on vacation a lot. Yeah. And when she's doing it, like, at home, you know, just cash stuff, it's, like, in a million dollar mansion. Yes. And, like, in the backseat of an SUV and stuff. just cash stuff it's like in a million dollar yes and like in the backseat of an suv and stuff so i think it's aspirational on that level yeah yeah where's like the addison ray's like dancing in her fucking studio like her family's studio apartment i guess that's too real too real right no one wants that we need that escapism because yeah her house is so sparse on my oh you're y'all y'all are drug dealers based on the decor in there well actually is it

a rented house I know this is something oh right yeah exactly her boyfriend according to Sophie in the research that we did with Sophie just texting us like five sentences this morning her boyfriend was one of the people who

had the TikTok mansion parties during the pandemic where the. The city shut the power down. The pandemic where the city had to shut the power down. So, you know, it's probably she's probably kicking it in the one of those influencer fraternities, sorority. When I thought she was a child and she would have other people in her little videos, I was like, oh, they're high school friends. But then I found out, no, they're all famous TikTokers too. Yeah. Right.

They're all making millions of money. Apologies to the younger listeners. As we try and understand the new culture, like our older relatives did before us, and you will inevitably one day do the same. Right. Welcome to Washtopia. Washtopia. Welcome to washtrassic park uh all right let's talk really briefly about my favorite new flavor of pringles see guys i'm not

washed uh it's called uh what's the pringle crypto crisp and it's not even a real flavor it's a limited edition uh r p fucking rpf nft uh rfp uh it's a limited edition nft uh and they're issuing they issued 50 of them and i guess they're charging 180 worth of some cryptocurrency for them yeah the main uh like energy i've seen post the nft thing like i i do feel like i get it now i understand why like what nfts. It seems like the main energy is rich people being like, fuck, I missed out on it. Like people who run businesses just like scrambling to get to take advantage of what they're realizing is free money. Yeah. Oh, this is just I thought that when you ordered it, you got the special can of Pringles.

No, this is just a piece of art. Yeah. Yep. Got it. Yep. Just get that non-fungible token. Yeah. Pizza Hut Canada got in on the action selling 8-bit style pizza slices, which were listed at around 17 cents.

The first slice ended up going for almost nine thousand dollars and the only one that seemed like that i understood is taco bell sold out in just 30 minutes when they tried something similar but those nfts were attached to real world 500 gift cards so yeah is this the like digital version of lining up for new sneakers like i mean it's it's more like i think it's it's allowing many people to fuck with money more than anything you know because now you can essentially you can launder money you can use like it's like the way art has been offered like you know art because now you can essentially, you can launder money that you can use. Like, it's like the way art has been offered. Like,

you know, art is like a tax haven people. There's the way the fine art world moves. It's making it just much easier. And I think digitize now for people to kind of get away with the same things of like, Oh yeah, let me put this $9,000 in this gift.

Don't ask where it came from. I just own this $9,000 gift baby. And then we can figure out how to you know convert it from there uh i forgot about the crime element right it is like the sneaker thing in the sense that there is the whole appeal is that there's a limited supply right like that's so people are paying exorbitant amounts of money because there's a limited supply and like these are that's the whole point of these is that by definition there's a limited number and you can't like replicate them i mean not to mention the absolute just devastating amount of energy it uses uh to mine all the crypto so i don't know it's just it's like a perfect like we're finding such interesting ways to destroy ourselves constantly true and this is like

really something i was like you've you're attaching value to this vaporware that also takes so much computing power that it's exacerbating climate the climate crisis or a huge contributor to it and like in the fate just it's in the chase of this ethereal fucking it's just you know philosophers uh when they are able to reignite human life on whatever planet they inevitably go to we'll talk about this moment i'm sure i hope jack are you training your your well they're probably too old for it but when you have grandchildren you got to train them for their mad max future yeah i mean my kids are four and two so yeah it'll probably be their kids who need to know how to like wield swords and get water from a tree do you know what i mean yeah yeah no i'm i'm more training my kids with

handguns because i think guns will still exist when they grow up but then yeah their kids will definitely need more uh bladed but also ed skills he's fine one of his kids is spider-man so he'll be fucking shit up anyway that's cool awesome congrats i bet that will be something that happens in that apocalyptic world where people then don the made up garbs of the folkloric heroes of our time, the Avengers. Yes. And then there will be a version of Freud in 2000 years who's like he has a Spider-Man complex. Right. Because he sublimates all his sexual, psychosexual feelings through his great aunt.

Oh, shit. This is such a weird world. I'm sorry, world. I tried, y'all. I tried to people. We tried. We're trying, man. I recycled. I'm sorry that the gang of Iron Men is now one of the most dangerous marauding bands

of bandits in the nation. We didn't see it like that. Oh, my God. But yeah, it's just I don't know. Like, I think the way this is being covered is does this like mean that this is an extra like washed thing that's going to look like slap bracelets and slap bracelets that lost people millions of dollars in five years? Or is it just the first step on a road to legitimacy? No.

And I think people are hoping it makes things more legitimate. It's Beanie Babies. Yeah. I think it's... It's got more. They want it too bad. The people want it too bad for it to just be Beanie Babies. Do you not remember how much people thought they were going to be millionaires off their Beanie Babies?

I guess the right people want it too bad in this case. Whereas Beanie Babies was like a subculture and it was like you know people on ebay this is like now tied to financial markets uh but then you know once once the revolution happens i'm sure they'll they'll lose value i'm just gonna look because i always like to do this when we bring up beanie babies i like to do the the thing where I go on eBay and I check what a Princess Diana bear is going for because that used to be one of the hottest beanie babies. And wouldn't you know it, right now, people are still trying to sell it for $10,000.

Yeah, the ask versus the bid is always so great. $15,000 and then it's like eighteen dollars shipping come on if you can if i'm gonna give you 15k for that shit you ship it for free let's be real here uh but there are so many for people who are picturing uh like some beanie baby that captures the beauty of princess diana in beanie baby form no it's just a white teddy bear beanie baby with a purple heart on it which is a purple beanie baby with a white heart rose or something so bless bless up goodbye english rose that would be fun oh god can you imagine like the stories of like this person doesn't know what to do with their three million dollar gift that is now worth nothing?

And they're trying to bring around their 40 character blockchain code to pay for medical. Right. I can really see that happening, even with the finance people backing it. Yeah, it's just so stupid. That's why every clubhouse room is this is the topic of conversation and i feel like every time i'm like what the fuck i thought y'all talking about photography yeah yeah and then i put my nft into my photograph and that's how uh yeah it's it does seem like the thing that usually happens is that like the the market gets flooded because the company realizes oh shit we can make so much money off of these so we make so many pogs or so many beanie babies uh so that is one thing this has going for it but

i don't know whatever just uh yeah just get out if look if you're laundering money we get it good for you found a interesting way to do it but yeah that i'm cool with yeah yeah as long as it's pizza above board stuff above board money laundering you know what i mean the cool kind yeah maybe pizza hut should be focused less on uh their pixelated slices of pizza and more on real world pizza. They still haven't quite figured that one out. I think it'll end up being is the people who are able to manufacture the scarcity are the ones that are going to get rich. I don't know if it's going to be the thing that by being in possession of it, you're then going to be like, ah, good thing I bought that million dollar gift because now it's worth three billy. Catherine, before we say goodbye, do have a an opinion on chain pizza chain pizza like uh pizza hut papa john's domino's

little caesars little caesars in what order would you put those okay i think this is like a um familiarity thing okay and uh domino's is my favorite because that's the one we had growing up. And it's the only one of the chain pizza places that I would order from now. We're all the same. We all agree. Moving on. I do think... Now that we settled

that. Although, again, I'll always shout out the greasy. I do think they have a superior product now because of their owning up to the fact that their previous pizza sucked. That was a hilarious ad campaign. But it was. It's true. The crust is better now.

Look, Jack, as much as we keep talking about this, they still said, fuck, no. Domino's, man. Come through. Domino's Daily. It's just like alliterative. I don't know if y'all thought about that. And they're like, who are you? Get away from us.

We want to talk to a podcast people know about. Yeah. No, I'm just saying it still makes sense. We just I need to now learn the lesson not to surprise their CEO at his home. And certainly not dressed as a Domino's delivery driver who just made an errant stop to begin the conversation about sponsoring a podcast and also revealing you don't work for Dom. I had a lot of issues

with the way you're going about it. This time I will be dressed as the North. Catherine, it has been such a pleasure having you. Thank you. Where can people find you

and follow you? Well, let's see. My podcast is called Smart Mouth, which is two words, not one. So you can find that anywhere. I'm on Instagram at Smart Mouth Podcast. I do have the newsletter I was talking about before, which is smartmouth.substack.com. Yeah, that's all my stuff. All right. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying yeah i don't know why this cracked me up but a woman named laurie charles who's on twitter at the stuff of memes this is what she wrote me i'm gonna go old testament on your ass you oh no you're donkey oh my god i can talk now okay listen up asshole i demand better

working conditions i found that delightful that's great Miles where can people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying oh man just Twitter Instagram PlayStation Network Miles of Grey go on Twitch if you want to watch me and Sophia Alexander talk about reality TV 420 Day Fiance is the name of that

pod or podcast you know what I mean whatever you want to do let's see some tweets that i'm liking the first one is from molly lambert uh which is just interesting because i know the snyder cut has been out there and people are all talking about it says watching the snyder cut absolutely not one clue what is happening. It's like a gray scale CGI Koyaanisqatsi to me. Movies are back. I'd love to see it. And then another one was one I had retweeted from a friend of mine who works at the LA Times. It's from Mr. Mark

Potts. So anyway, he has a photo. And this tweet kind of blew up. He said, seems like the company letting people send in thank you messages along I-405 isn't checking the attached photos. And there are these digital billboards. And on the side of the road, it's mostly like thank you to first responders. It says, thank you, police. And it has a name. The photo is Chris Dorners. Oh, shit. And that shit was blasted on the 405 and i was like yo somebody's

somebody's playing some games oh weird yeah uh and then like i just once this like i was looking back at this tweet like so many news people like do you know where this was what's going on because yeah that's that's a that's a pretty it's a pretty spicy one. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Let's see here. Clark Jones at TheClarkJones tweeted, whoever named it didgeridoo was really having fun. Find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

Find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at TheDaily daily zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website daily zeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our foot notes, uh, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song recommendation. Uh, miles,

what song would you recommend? Uh, people check out today? This track is a remix of The Weeknd's Crew Love. Got me loving the crew. Got me loving the crew. But it's by Shlomo. And it's like, it's just got, it's so dark. If you thought The Weeknd couldn't sound darker and more conflicted,

because this is like before he started getting real poppy, Barker and more conflicted. Cause this was like before he started getting real poppy. This remix, a weekend crew love remix by Shlomo, S H L O H M O. Just a dope producer all around. Um, but you have to get this on sound cloud,

baby, but the link will be in the footnotes. Also just from PJ Evans, I think has been killing it lately. Uh, he had a tweet that made me laugh out loud where he said, loudly in movie theater, watching Night at the Museum,

this never fucking happened. I just looked it up. I don't know why. The energy for that. Bullshit. the energy for that bullshit yeah alright you can go check out the slow-mo remix the daily zeitgeist is

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