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Episode Date: June 3, 2025

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That's like mailing a script to yourself to copyright. The copyright. Yeah. Is that bait? Where is even the most tenuous strand of reality that's connected to that boneheaded idea that you just mail yourself something, therefore it's copyrighted? The poor man's copyright comes from the idea that certified mail puts it on record, but it doesn't.

Oh, it's like maybe to prove that it was that idea had been in the world. It's strengthened your case in court, but it doesn't really copyright it. Do you have to leave that envelope sealed and then at the court you're like, and now I will open. Use a steamer. Yellow diamonds look like pee pee. Sorry, push. I'm stealing that. And you didn't, and you didn't mail that to yourself.

This is the new Pusha T song, right? Your honor. Uh, I'd like to call my next witness, Pusha T. Pusha T. Oh, okay. That's the thing that you want yellow diamonds that look like pee pee or boogers. I was learning before we started. Yes. Yes. It had to be pee pee or boogers. Pee pee or boogers. I was learning before we started. Yes. Yes. It has to be PP or boogers.

PP or boogers. Like lab-grown or are we still fucking with De Beers? You know, rappers still haven't gone, they're not talking shit about lab-grown like the industry does. You know what I mean? This isn't going to be the first time that there's a product where I go in and say, I'm sorry, do you have anything that looks like PP? It's not the first time. Not's not going to be the first. It's certainly not going to be the last.

Hello, sir. Welcome. It's my way of asking if they have original Mountain Dew. Welcome to 21 Carat Jewelers, sir. What can I do for you? Man, I am in trouble with my wife. Do you have anything that looks like pee pee? Well, we have a couple of different shades. Are you looking for something more asparagus or like? I don't know.

Just got it. Yeah, it's got to smell that. Yeah, I think it's a full renal failure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want them. I want I want like uric acid crystals attached to the diamond. That's how much like I want this pee pee to look viscous. Yeah, my diamond should look like someone needs to call a doctor.

The next thing that's coming out of that is making a plop sound. All right. Like that's what I'm talking about. There we go. Kidney stones, kidney stones, kidney stones on my wife's wrist. Need to look like they came out of kidney. You know what I'm saying? Get that kidney stones.

I feel like we're being so prescient right now. I cannot wait to hear this come up in Another album, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean yellow diamonds look like pee-pee Clips album for how many years and the first bar first thing we hear to push these yellow diamonds look like pee pee. Yes. And sadly I'm like, yes. That's a, that's a push line though, for real. Yeah. That's literally the first line of this new track from the forthcoming album, ace trumpets.

It's just, it's got that E ending. So it rhymes with so much shit in English. It's just, yeah, it's more fun. It's a little bit., so it rhymes with so much shit in English. And Pee Pee. It's more fun. It's a word course. They just admire it for its ability. Yeah. Every rapper, when they're trying to write a verse, they just have a framed word. Yeah.

I mean, even in that Pharrell song that you like with Tyler, the creator, Cache in, Cache out, he's got that lyric, like this shit neon yellow, like pee on it. Yeah. Yeah. It's everywhere. What is this man drinking? Yeah. Yeah. Tyler. Hold on. Okay. I'm drinking air conditioning refrigerant. Is that cool? Oh, God. It's really expensive. So it's kind of baller. All right, Ben. You can go ahead and start recording if you haven't started already. Yeah, this is all on record. Awesome.

Yeah, this is all on record. Push right after this. All on the record. Send it to the Library of Congress. We're going to mail it to ourselves. Yeah, there we go. This is an iHeart Podcast. This is an iHeart Podcast. Why is a soap opera western like Yellowstone so wildly successful? The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network.

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Yes, we're three days into Pride. Shout out everybody is Pride month. Shout out the places that are still so I was reading an article about how there's actually been an uptick in small town pride events you know because despite the fucking terrible homophobic you know vibes coming from the government right it's actually like it's it's created and you know a swell of confidence of people really wanting to go out there and represent for themselves really heartwarming yeah because it's one of those things it's like you don't need a

fucking municipality to tell you that you can get together and celebrate. Like, sorry, and people do. And in fact, municipally approved parties, oftentimes not the best ones. Yeah, yeah, in fact, they suck. But it's also National Egg Day. Have the prices come down?

National Chocolate Macaroon Day, and National Repeat Day. I don't know what that is. It looks like the- Oh, it's also National Repeat Day. Yeah, which day is it again? I think it's National Repeat Day. What the fuck?

Oh, it's about playing a song on fucking repeat. I know. I know. Shit, I'm about to do that with this. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom phone phone. Tell me what you want to do All right, well my name is Jack O'Brien aka you you look like you pee I mean, I guess I could have guessed. But you say it's water ice. But you say it's water ice.

Oh, Jackie, you, you look like you peed. But you say it's water ice. We're going to do this 12 times. But you say it. No, that one courtesy of Patty 1120 on the Discord. Shout out to Patty 1120. Okay, Patty. Yeah, shout out to just a tiny anecdote

that is the only thing that people write AKAs for me about anymore. Yep, you got nothing else going on, Jack, except you pee yourself and blame the water ice. I mean, it's facts. It does appear to be what happened. Yeah. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray.

Yeah, it's Miles Gray, aka on the mic is Miles Gigi. Shout out to me right now. I can't look as somebody who grew up idolizing cocaine rap as someone who went to a private high school and was nowhere near dealing cocaine in my teenage years. Clips, this album's coming out in about a month and nine days and they just they had a new track come out with produced by Pharrell and the first line is yellow diamonds look like peepee and I can't it's an earworm I think because it feels like a rhyme from 24 years ago. That we're just like, yeah, dude, that's just sick. But everything from 24 years ago is coming back.

Yeah, 9-11. Probably. The president's ignoring daily presidential briefings. It's all coming back, y'all. Yeah, that's right. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat once again by Ryder, who's one of the best podcast hosts and executive producers doing it. You know him from Stuff They Don't Want You to Know,

Ridiculous History, Missing in Arizona. It's Ben Bowlin. Ben. Ben. Ben. Ben. You got Ben Bowlin. Yes.

Right in. AKA, You're in Trouble, AKA, Nilwab Neb. Shout out to our earlier conversation about spelling things backwards. Nilwab Neb, dude. That's a sick ass, like, Star Wars name. Nilwab Neb. Nilwab Neb, yeah. It sounds like you would have been on Andor or something in the show Andor.

Yeah, maybe like a tertiary character, you know? Oh, of course. In passing, they're like, and did you see Nilwab Neb while you were in the movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was still trying to think how, I was like, oh, they're like, and did you see Nehluwab Neb? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, oh, it's like something to do with P backwards. What is that? I just figured it out though. Yeah. What's a Nehluwab?

It's your name. On your Neb. It's his name, you guys. Ben Boland back. Oh, geez. We solved the mystery. Yeah. What's up, you guys?

I was thinking about, I was thinking about you all earlier. I am so glad to join you again and shout out to our producer, Justin. Man, this time I'm not going to mess up the audio. You got my word. Okay. That's what you said last time. Yeah, that's what you said last time. That's what I say every time. Yeah.

I know it is. We're going to believe you this time. Trust, then verify. Reagan jokes. All right. It's great to have you back, Ben. We're thrilled to have you. We're going to get you this time. Trust, then verify. Reagan jokes. All right. It's great to have you back, Ben. We're thrilled to have you.

We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about today. We've just got to peek behind the curtain at the Trump administration, just in terms of how he's learning the most important information that a president can learn from the presidential daily briefing, which I didn't know was optional, but apparently,

even Biden was not hitting 100 on these. He wasn't, he was like, I don't know. It's not a presidential brief daily briefing day. It's a, let's make that a presidential weekly briefing. That's it guys. I'm sleepy. Yeah. But name something you do every day.

Oh, other than Pete. Impossible. Impossible for me to think of anything. Anyways, moving on to the second story of the daily zeitgeist. Um, Tim walls has some ideas of how Democrats should be interacting with the Trump administration. Straight from the New York Times, this revelation from him. Huh. What?

Don't say. Be mean back! He does seem like the most significant figure to be making sense on this front. Yeah. We'll talk about that. Steven Spielberg's next movie is going to be his first big alien movie since, I guess, it seems like it's alienate. It's written by him,

like ET and Close Encounters. It was shooting in New Jersey around the time of the drone invasion. I don't know if anybody know about that. But it's also gonna be, I think the first big alien movie posts like a lot of the UAP disclosures. So just curious to check in with Ben about where he's at with UAP stuff and drones also. Yeah, drones.

Drones. And we'll talk about Oreo's parent company is suing a company, Aldi. They're like a German brand that like does discount versions of famous, you know, Oreos, Chips Ahoy, Nutter Butter. And I admire their Moxie. You guys, they're just changing the words and copying everything else from the packaging. Definitely.

It's got big Sherry Bobbins energy. All of that, plenty more. But first, Ben Bowen, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Oh, gosh. Yeah, guys, I was looking through this stuff. One thing, another P joke that I fell into before without even knowing we were going to talk about this is you guys know Bigfoot, right? Not personally, but like aware

of the idea. There's, there's a version of Bigfoot as a cryptid out in the interior of China and its name is, I guess in English, we would say urine, why E R E N. Uh, and so we did our best on stuff. They don't want you to know to do an entire episode about the scientific investigation into the existence reported of this creature without doing P jokes. And I want to be honest. We fucking failed. Yeah. Yeah. be honest, we fucking failed. Yeah.

Yeah, we couldn't. The name right there. It's right there. We're no push of T, but we are fans of puns, I guess. It's just we- You're downstream. You're downstream of push of T. We're downstream.

We're downstream. We're very NPR-ish, you guys. Yeah. NPR-ish. Thank down. Downstream. NPR-ish, you guys. Yeah. NPR-ish. Thank you. Downstream, downstream. Hashtag no joke left behind. We, like, what's interesting about this

for any fans of cryptids is that unlike the Bigfoot stuff here in the US or Canada, in China, partially due to the aftermath of the revolution, the communist revolution, there was this move to replace superstition with science, right? To look at spirituality as an opiate for the masses, etc. And so they poured a lot of money into going into these mountainous remote regions of

China and trying to find this thing. Or to find a way to explain it. Basically, they were like, taking it seriously. They're like, it's out there and we're going to find it. Like imagine, okay, imagine if all of us listening tonight, we went to the White House and we said, Hey guys, we need millions of dollars to look for Bigfoot and it needs to be a federal program.

And the White House said, yeah, I think, fuck it, go. That's what happens. I can see that. You probably have to ask RFK, he's like the parent that's asleep with the wheel, that you make, hey, can we get like some like billion dollars like Bigfoot, yeah. Yeah. I feel like big? Yeah. Yeah.

I feel like if Don Jr. Pitched RFK on this, it'd be happening tomorrow. You know, you don't think he has just like, dude, fucking get over here, dude. What are we going to do about the fucking Yeti threat, man? They've already got like a line of coolers and shit, man, and cups and stuff. What's the fucking next bro? What's going on? That's good. So I just wanted to confirm because Ben does sometimes write down a search

history is underrated over here before. And I just, um, I think it's probably a smart move that you changed it from how to test if the bath water content of a soap that you ordered through the mail. Yeah. Yeah. That that's between us, man. You said you were going to. Yeah. Yeah. That's between us, man. You said you were going to be cool. Yeah.

No, I think it was probably the right move. We'll definitely cut this out. Oh, great. What is something you think is underrated? All right. Speaking of NPR and being a little folksy, Tim Walz stuff with this, I was hanging out in a place where people don't really do small talk.

I realized that was Well hanging actually with people from Finland and I thought that was a cultural stereotype that they don't do small talk Small sample size, but the ones I were kicking I was kicking it with do not do small talk and I kind of miss it you know, uh, maybe it's because I spend time in Atlanta, you know, everybody in Atlanta talks to everybody else in the city. Yeah. As though you're vaguely related, right? So the South is just small talk.

Yeah. Yeah, the South is small talk. That's like most of your day is taken up by small talk in the South. Yeah. Answering questions about your hat or t-shirt. It is small talk. That's like most of your day is taken up by small talk in the south. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So I, it reminds me about your earlier explorations on mundanity, you know, where you guys at on small talk. Do you guys do much small talk in your day to day lives or you just like hi, my name is miles My name is Jack does God exist? Yeah

Yeah, that that actually sounds kind of like our text messages I don't know. I mean small talk. I don't personally I'm not great at like making up things I don't care about out of thin air to talk to somebody Usually like the way I do small talk is I just try and find out as much as I can about a person. I guess that's my thing. It's not like, hey, the weather. I'm like, oh yeah, where are you from? Where do you live?

Let me go through your contacts real quick. No, I don't know them. I don't know them. They got money. I used to be terrified of that improv game. Do you guys remember that where they're like, hey, we're going to get somebody's phone in the audience. One of our performers will do lines just from these text messages,

jack off to pictures of their family. Those shows always got messy. They'd be like, yo, what do you do? Who's this person? Exactly. That's psychopath. But I hear what you're saying. To me, I think that's one of the great differentiators, right? Small talk gets a bad name when it's artificial, right?

When it's, let me make up something to say. You know, like we're in an elevator and someone says, oh, floor eight. And then in Atlanta, someone would be like, you know it. That's bullshit. That's weird. Right. A little too much. You know, I 789 or eight, seven.

Oh, fuck. Six is great. Fuck. That's me doing small talk. And the new thing the kids are doing is trying to get people to say six, seven, six, seven. They're referencing this meme rap song. The new thing the kids are doing is trying to get people to say six, seven, six, seven, and then they're rip. They're rip.

They're referencing this like meme rap song. Do, do, do it's I don't bro. I'm too online right now. Miles is racking my brain because this teacher was like teenager correspond. Yeah. They're like, my, my kids just asked me to add 34 plus 33. I saw that. And I was like, I just, I did the thing where, I mean, I wasn't in front of

anyone, I was just on the internet, but I just was like, yeah, I get it. You did say that. I did. I was sitting by myself looking at my phone. I go, haha, I get that. Oh my gosh. She played herself on that one. Did you say something?

Yeah, because it's six, seven. It's how anyway, it's it's a rap song. Don't worry about it. If a kid tries to get you to say it, you just respond to do to do. Let's see what they say. Do do do do. What is something you think is overrated by the penny? Fuck it. I don't like it.

I think it's dumb. And yeah, yeah, yeah. What about ass pennies? From UCB season one. Yeah, that's one of my favorite. The greatest confidence booster. I know there's a good chance he's handled one of my ass pennies. Which might be the best thing the penny ever did actually.

Yeah. Right. When's the last time you guys paid for something with cash or used a penny? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Right. In that sketch, man. When's the last time you guys paid for something with cash or used a penny? Okay.

Those are two very different questions. I bought a street hot dog two, four days ago with cash. Pennies. Oh, God. I don't know. Yeah. It's been a since I'm trying to think last time I was like, oh, I've got a penny, like as part of the transaction. Right.

It was probably like when they used to be like the give a penny, take a penny thing at 7-Eleven. Little change cup at the counter. It's weird because we're increasingly moving toward a society that does not use physical currency, right? Aside from this is not like an RFK Jr. ad to run and buy gold or whatever. But it's weird that it's taken so long for the United States to collectively walk away from the penny. Canada did it a while back. Other countries have done it.

They just round stuff up to like the nearest five cents. Yeah. That's what I, my concern is like, like the scheme in office space where everything's just like rounded to the nearest penny and then they're just like keeping all of that. I'm like, I feel like that money's just all going to the worst people in the world. I think I have to assume it's going, like any rounding in any direction is not going to be down to benefit the consumer It's going to be up to benefit whoever Whoever the richest person involved in that product is so let's get in on it now

You know what I mean like if podcasting doesn't work out just like in that 1990s film hackers You'll make like all the timelys. All the timely refs. I'm putting my finger to my vein right here or artery. I can't remember. I have a finger on the pulse. Not all the jokes are going to land, but yeah. Fuck pennies, man. I'm just so tired of them.

Like, wait, are you using a lot of pennies, Ben? You say this like someone who's a handle pennies. I'll fucking fucking done with fucking pennies. Does I pay you in pennies? I should've got you guys.? I'm fucking done with fucking pennies. Does I have to pay you in pennies? Sorry guys, the delivery is here. Yeah. It's just a fucking dump truck. Yeah, it looks like asphalt workers just sliding the thing open and just fucking evening it out on your driveway.

I wish I made that many pennies. It costs more to make them than they are worth. Right. Oh, sure. Say utility of value after a certain amount of time, the penny would justify its cost of production, which is something like two or three cents, I guess. But they're mainly made of zinc. Is there any conspiracy theories around pennies?

I feel like this has to be ripe for conspiracy theories. Like, I feel like it's some shit, some guy to board. You know why they fucking have pennies, right? Oh yeah, yeah. It just like hits the bog. Cause of course it's a bog is like, wow, damn, they let you smoke in here like that? Yeah, dude, it's my brother's bar.

Anyway, you know what it is. Mark, are you smoking in here again? Don't fuck, leave that guy alone about the pennies. All right, I'll talk to you outside. If you want to hit this, come outside. Okay. In here again, we don't fuck leave that guy alone about the penny. Yeah. I bet you there are. I mean, we mentioned it offhandedly the, that it's, there's a, a big lobbying component, like the zinc lobbying industry is all up in the history of pennies. And basically the only reason that it still exists is.

Yeah. The zinc lobby. Okay, thank you. That's what I need. This might be old news. Yeah, yeah. We should get what big zinc, I think. See what the next move is.

Fill them out. Make some small talk. Even the announcement of the pennies being retired, they're like, we just have one more pallet of a billion blank pennies to get through. They're like, we're not going to cut them off cold turkey guys. Right.

Strategic reserves of pennies, I'm sure. Yeah, blank pennies though. Also interesting to find out that there's such a thing. I mainly, I have a lot of money invested in commemorative, you know, the like, yeah, render things, frankly, you get zoos. Oh, yeah. When you smash out the reshape it, that's kind of at the zoo. All those machines out of order.

A lot of the LA zoo, LA, it's, it's, it's kind of a bummer, dude. It's so they built that shit in the nineties and just left it. They're just like, you know, it's crazy. I last time I went, I was 1991 and then I was such an L like me for me growing up. We just never went and then I was like, but they did. It's nicer now for sure. But it was anyway, I couldn't get my stamped pennies. What do you guys think about zoos in general?

Like animal jail? Yeah. Animal prison. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's cool Well, you mean animal jail I think it's cool as hell wait, what did you call it? What did you call animal jail? We got we've got the Atlanta Zoo and I when I when I go see the Atlanta Zoo Which is next to a very strange thing that closed a while back called the cyclorama at the Atlanta Zoo, which is next to a very strange thing that closed a while back called the cyclorama at the Atlanta Zoo. It's just, it is a bummer, you know, to see elephants, to see other really intelligent animals and then make eye

contact with you and say like, why are these smaller apes screaming at me and tapping on the glass? You know, there were the there, There was this one champ so stressed out, picking their fur out. I was like, oh my God, bro. It's animal jail. I'm an abolitionist, I would say. But my child had to see a giraffe,

and I don't have money to go to Africa. Giraffes are wild. Giraffes make sense. You really need to see those things in person. I mean, look, there's one thing the animal jail is good for. It's a giraffe. Yeah, I mean. Go see them in their natural habitat, a backyard, essentially.

Griffith Park. Yeah. I mean, I don't know, man, without getting too so boxy about it. Animal conservation efforts are huge. You know, that that I think that makes a real difference. Giraffes, like we were talking about earlier with camels, they are goofy. Like you kind of do have to see it in person to marvel at the bizarre Shyamalan nature of evolution. Like how many I don't know this, I haven't researched this, but how many, many eras of evolution did it

take for the giraffe to be the final form of its thing? I believe that the giraffe was the first thing, and we've all just evolved into this. They were like, really long neck? Copy. Then everything else was just, yeah. And then the short neck drafts were like- They started with a bad idea and they were like, maybe not. Maybe like opposable thumbs instead.

The shorter neck drafts like, I don't know, should we just be horses or something? Right. And camels are like, you guys are wild. Yeah. You guys are blowing it. All right. Let's take a quick break. Yeah. Yeah. We'll be right back. We'll talk about some news. We'll be right back. The American West with Dan Flores is the latest show from the Meat Eater Podcast Network, hosted by me, writer and historian Dan Flores, and brought to you by Velvet Buck.

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Oh, like I said, and you all doubted me. You said no way. Did I guys tell you guys? I can't remember. Probably not. I ran into someone who thought the abbreviation AF for, you know, as fuck. Yeah. Yeah. They thought it stood for as foretold.

And it just put such a positive spin on all the things I read. So this dude is high as foretold and it just put such a positive spin on all the things I read. So this dude is high as foretold. This taco is good as foretold. Anyway, so person really to like fantasy books. As the prophecy hath foretold. So, so Jack, AF, you're back. Yes, we're back AF. We're back AF truly in accordance with the prophecy. As the prophesy.

And yeah, we just want to talk about what's going on behind the scenes. Everything from the outside looks good. Yeah. Have the trouble of illustration. What's it like to be working there trying to get through that noggin? Look, on the surface, the wealthiest man alive is in the Oval Office, high as foretold. On the surface, he looks calm as ready. Yeah.

Calm and ready. Yeah, but I think he's been eating a little too much mom's spaghetti. Yeah. That's good. That's fucking up his bladder. But again, yeah, with Trump, right? Famously an idiot who can't read and only can absorb information if it's being said to him by a blonde woman on a television.

That's right. So what is director of national intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard to do when the president doesn't read his presidential daily briefings, you know, the little document that the president reads every day that you get an idea of the ongoing threats the country faces. He has been in office 133 days. This is June 2nd. So he's been in office as we record this. He's been in office 133 days.

And guess how many daily briefings this man has engaged with? 14 since taking office. 14 out of 133. During his first administration, if you remember, they're like, we had to change it to one page with a flip book attached at the bottom. So it's a little more interactive and it came with a coloring book sections to get him to sort of like look at the maps. And he only did that like 55 times.

So in his first run at president, he did, he hit 55 out of 133 now 14, 14 going down a bit, Joe Biden less than weekly. That's like week and a half Lee. Yeah. Joe Biden hit 90 in this same period. Do you guys have any idea how sleepy he was? 90, 90. I mean, that could be a lie where they're like, he was just asleep and he was in there

and they're like, right. He just like went in and like read it to him while he was asleep. He's probably getting it. Just through it. Yeah. Under his pillow at night. So it absorbs questions through his little head question. Okay.

So just 14 times so far in the second presidency, 133 days in, as he said, do we, what if it's like for two weeks, he was on point at every one, like something happened. And so we had like 14 days stretch. I do think that's kind of how he tends to operate, like with his Adderall binges or whatever it is that like gets him You know, he'll be tweeting through the night for like 10 days in a row and then he'll be sleepy He'll go away for a few days. Yeah He's trying to reach that bar of when he used to fall asleep Inside of us

We're just talking Ben, did you know the lyrics to Semi Charmed Kind of Life? The, do, do, do, do, do, do, do, do. Yeah. You know that song? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Especially when you tweak. It has lyrics about, it's basically explicitly about crystal meth, and references a time when wanting to get back to a time when he fell asleep inside some of you.

Yeah, that was one of those songs where I think the lyrics went over a lot of heads. Would you hear it as a kid? I don't know. There's an alternate reading. He's talking a lot about ice falling asleep inside of you. That could be a reference to Empire Strikes Back when Luke has to sleep inside the Tom Tom War I don't know. I think you guys just kind of know you're just the most childish No idea what math is I'm like no that's Star Wars. Yeah, think about it Yeah, you guys are pushing a crystal myth right now. Yeah. Yeah crystal myth narrative

So he's so Trump's already getting like the dumbed down spark notes version and crayon And don't they have to use his name a lot, too? But yeah, they were told to always put his name in They have written into the script snap snap snap snaps. Yeah parenthetical cat whispers Shaking keys. I remember learning that Ronald Reagan used to, the presidential daily briefing that everybody else would get were these like thick documents that they had to get through before they started their day.

And then Reagan was like, give it to me. Like each one of these pages can be a paragraph. And everyone's like, and that's how dumb he was. And now we're at a point where like they're not doing it. And when they do, they're like, read it to me slowly. And more pictures. No big words. More pictures.

Could you give me America as a long line? Exactly. Yeah. So again, what is Tulsi to do? Um, and I think that's easy, as we said in the beginning, just make it look like his favorite TV show, Fox News. This is from NBC News, quote, Gabbard also reportedly consulted with current and former intelligence officials on bringing in a Fox News producer and host to reshape the presidential

daily briefings, which are usually text and image based for national security reasons to deliver the intel in broadcast form. They said the process could involve granting the Fox News team security clearance to access classified information. One source said, quote, The problem with Trump is that he doesn't read. He's on broadcast all the time. So they just say, yeah, this could happen. Although White House spokesman Davis Engel said the report is

quote, libelous garbage from unnamed sources. Also, how'd you find out? How you do that? How'd you do that? Do they, once they get this up and running, because this is like the solution to their problems and like kind of, I'm kind of impressed that they came up with this idea. Do they tell him that it's or do they just put it in front of him and be like, look what's on the TV? Yeah, hey bud, you want your iPad?

You want your iPad? You want iPad time? Yeah, okay, here you go. And then it shows like Fox and Friends, like a Fox and Friends made up Fox and Friends broadcast where suddenly like Brian Kilmeade is like, President Trump, there is an urgent matter unfolding in Sudan that needs to be addressed. Please choose one of the following options.

Anyway, so do we designate pride flags as terrorist symbols? What do you guys think? I mean, she's get away. So the pitch is Fox News creating bespoke propaganda or broadcasting for the like. So for him, it sounds like the medium in which he will absorb the information is if it's a TV show that's in the aesthetic of his favorite TV show. So I don't know if it's going to be like, hello, I'm Tulsi Gabbard.

And these are the top threats America is facing. She's not blonde. Turn it off. turn it off. Turn it off. What's that weird streak in her hair? Who does she think she is? Storm? Rogue. No one's a Ro Ro Monroe, not in my book. They're going to break in and be like,

this is breaking news, sir. The presidential daily. Every morning, sir, breaking news. They turn the TV on. Check this out. Yeah. Oh my gosh, and. You better check this out. Yeah. Oh my gosh. And then we can do commercials too. That's what he's really getting his head.

You know what I mean? What kind of commercials. The most high value ad possible. I mean, like advertised to the president of the United States. Like that is truly like kind of the ultimate future of the thing is like everything being privatized. So why wouldn't you create a broadcast only for the president, advertise to Jeff Bezos and fucking Elon Musk and, you know, just have,

have a show that is just for one audience. I mean, thank you. Does your bladder have too much ketamine? CVS, as foretold. Thank you, Mr. President. Mm-hmm. Yeah. CVS. What? As foretold. As foretold. Thank you Mr. President. Yeah. So we'll see where this goes.

I mean, obviously the, we've been hearing about this since the beginning of the administration is that he just can't be bothered with these daily briefings. And again, that's when all the cabinet heads are like, okay, most pressing things. What are we doing Mr. President? And this is how you end up fucking just completely asleep at the wheel while some terrible shit happens or some fuck up that could have been prevented just unfolds before everyone's eyes.

I mean, you know where the countries are. Does he know that they're they're like two Koreas? No, no. He's like he's like there there's North Korea and Fun Korea. I can't imagine, if you asked if he knew where the countries are, that would be an amazing test. Just catch Tulsi Gabbard off the cuff and ask her that question and see her try not to laugh.

There's no way she'd be able to get through it without. Does he understand all the spatial relationships of the geography in the region? Yeah. There we go. That's good. Sorry. I just had a little gas bubble. You say spatial relations.

I was laughing at how ridiculous that question is because of course the president understands the spatial relations and that those countries are over the sea as he refers to them. We are an active exploration of object permanence. Right. Truly, it feels like this is, he needs it said in front of him in the way that he likes it said. And again, this should be so, everything should be so fucking scandalous.

But this guy is an absolute failure at everything, including just fucking doing the paying attention part about being president, aside from all the fascistic nonsense and the hatred, like the guy can't even fucking, the guy can't even president at all. And we're still, I don't know why why like every headline should be like this guy's a mess and we're all gonna die Like he's a live in the any. Yeah, he baby. It's it is wild because Then you think about what he's getting Instead of the daily presidential briefing, right? He's getting fucking whatever is coming through his algo on truth social.

You know, so that feels dangerous. I mean, who who knew that 50 cent would end up being like the operative? The way Dennis Rodman had to go to was Kim, was Kim Jong Goon, uh, or ill. I can't remember, but now we have, we have Curtis going in to persuade Trump not to interfere with the ditty trial. Just like we have, he is a weaponized his legendary pettiness and now, now he's the hero. The courts need, I think we're in a tough spot. It is so weird.

It's like, rather than being like, let the legal system do it, saying you need a piece of shit 50 cent in all his hating to be like, nah, I'm going to do this with me 50. I haven't been keeping up on this, this story. What happened? He's trying because they're talking about a presidential pardon for Diddy. That Trump, that 50 cents like hell no, I am not going to fucking let that happen.

He said he would reach out to Trump personally to quote, dissuade him from considering a pardon, which means theory of the Diddy pardon just that because they like probably partied together at some point? I'd imagine. I mean, there's overlap. Yeah, there's definitely overlap. And then also, I mean, the store is open. I think the going price is like a couple million. I think it's freak of. But we all know, we all know, look, Donald Trump doesn't pardon black people until the polls open, baby. You know what I mean?

If you have to be white and not have killed another white person to get a pardon now. That's what we're seeing now. If you're white and you only did money crimes, you get a pardon. If you're a person of color, that has to be something that he utilizes to help, you know, with his polling once the the campaign, he's a huge cut. Yeah. And also, so I feel like he's not. Yeah.

Yeah. And I don't know if you saw his Coachella performance legendary folks, by the way, miles is reading directly from a white house chief of staff email. Yeah. Did he's legal team. Exactly. Sorry. I don't know if you've seen the flow chart is, is the subject black?

Wait three years. Right. Oh, that's right. Are they white and haven't killed another white person and only did money crimes? Okay, we can talk. We can talk. I derailed us, but I think I did it just because I'm so, pardon my French, fucking terrified of a world in which a guy who is the decider for deploying nuclear weapons has to have his silly little like

Has 50 cent in his ear we show and then he has to have hold audience with 50 cent and now I Mean like again, and I think this probably feeds into the next story about Tim waltz like right No one is talking about like we're still stuck in the fucking first administration. We've been like, whoa, that's not normal. Rather than because I get it. All of them. Every media outlet is like, dude, who's going to fucking sue us into smithereens if we're like this guy is a waste and should not be anywhere near the office every day. It's more absurd than the last week.

What the fuck is everyone doing around him? All of these people around him need to also answer are all y'all fucking completely fucking off it what is happening but yeah I will just say that they should have done this for Joe Biden and just like created an episode of Bonanza where like the messaging of You're like genocide is bad. Yeah. John boy. Playing you partner. But yeah, I did this is, uh, Tim walls coming through saying the obvious thing, but sometimes the obvious thing needs to be said over and over again, screen to the democratic party, you know, that they're, they're still worried about favorability. I feel like we talked about yesterday how they're like, AOC's favorability has really

skyrocketed. So there was like Obama, the Obamas, like maybe, maybe, maybe what? Maybe. Exactly. We don't want to say anything specific because we don't want to defend people and make them uncomfortable. So just by saying things like maybe it doesn't have any action that might frighten people. The only thing anybody gives a shit about is somebody who will do something.

That's the Democrats catchphrase trademarked. Maybe? Democrats? Maybe? Maybe? We do some out of face with the shrug. Yeah. Yeah, 100%. Who, us?

But yeah, I mean like, maybe. You know, there's like two, I don't know, there's the mainstream democratic school of thought with the, you know, Hakeem Jeffries, Chuck Schumers, James Cobbles of it all, who are just like, just lay down and die and let them have their way with your unconscious body for everybody to see. And then the voters will be so disgusted by their unscrupulous behavior that they

will have no choice but to usher in the status quo yet again. That is basically that one school of thought. And then everyone else is like, everyone else who lives in the fucking world is like, fucking fight these stupid fucks. What are you doing? Um, and that's where Tim Wallace has been. I mean, I get it. Maybe he is the authority here

because he is the guy who kicked off the, the GOP is kind of weird, huh? And it was like, whoa shit. Which was a sick burden from the Midwest. That's good. Yeah. Oh yeah. I don't know.

I just think they're kind of weird. Whoa, my drop. You start hearing, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. Like it's Meet the Grams about to play and shit. Like, oh my God, how do, I've already come up with this shit. But yeah, he is saying this isn't a good strategy.

And he's been saying like, if the fuck, if no one stands up, you are going to, you're turning to quote, political roadkill, because they're just gonna steamroll you. This is what he said, quote, maybe it's time for us to be a little meaner. Maybe it's time for us to be a little more.

Again, would you have to say maybe at the start of this? Yeah. Exactly. Maybe. Maybe. Look, we fully can't commit to this either, because we want plausible deniability that we actually ever believed anything we said. To be a little more fierce, okay, because we have to ferociously push back on this.

And again, I'll speak to my teacher colleagues in here. The thing that bothers a teacher more than anything is to watch a bully. we have to ferociously push back on this. And again, I'll speak to my teacher colleagues in here. The thing that bothers a teacher more than anything is to watch a bully. And when it's a child, you talk to him and you tell him why bullying's wrong. But when it's an adult like Donald Trump, you bully the shit out of him back.

You push back, you make sure they know it's not there because at heart, this is a weak, cruel man that takes it out and punches down on people. And he had a quote, what they don't want to do is stand toe to toe and punch back with someone who's calling him out for what they do. Who's being there. So, you know, like this is the basics, some friction rhetorically. And there, and mind you, there are definitely people who are out smoking,

but the party is not unified in doing this. And that's where you need, that's where you have typically strengthened numbers for this kind of thing. Like the biggest problem with the Democratic party, I feel like up through 2024 has been their unwillingness to do anything that they thought might be risky in any way. And like, people, risky in any way. They hear the ick. People can recognize that. And people are like, well, in a system that is broken, those people are not who we should be voting for.

Right? And so multiple times, Trump has very low favorability, historically low favorability for a president, someone who ends up winning the presidency. But it's because people are like, I don't know, I don't like him, but it seems like he will get things done in a system that seems broken. And the Democratic Party is just like, do nothing, sit back and let them dig their own grave. And like that is just basically the opposite of what like even even when walls came in and was like, we like I think we should call them weird.

They backed away from that. They were like, is that, I just, I don't know. That might not test well in the end. We don't want to put off weird demographic. Yeah. We don't want to put off weird America. It's like flyover states or something. It's like, oh God, we don't want to lose the weird vote. We actually want JD Vance to vote for us.

That's actually the demographic we're going to go hard trying to get JD Vance to vote for us. Oh yeah. Our goal wasn't, our goal wasn't, yeah, our goal wasn't to have more votes than the Trump campaign. Our vote was just to get like maybe JD Vance and like Liz Cheney to vote for us. That would be amazing. Could you imagine a lot of people banging furniture, you know,

and we've got to represent them. We got to get that vote. We got to get these guys seem weird. Shh, shut the fuck up, dude. Shut the fuck up. Don't talk about corporate greed or Gaza or fucking or diversity or fucking police. Would you shut the fuck up.

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And we're back. Whoa. Well, Tom weights, man. Yeah. Tom weights, probably better. Tom. Nah, man. I'm not man.

Who the tool man Taylor guy. Guys, we don't want to copy and cigarettes. We don't want to exclude the Tim's or the Toms. We don't want to be. Oh, don't let's be here. Tim Tom boat. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. This isn't really that much news here, but I am just curious. Like I, they have my attention on this one.

The Spielberg's new movie, I guess, is going to be called The Dish. It is a extraterrestrial focused movie. It's about gossip. He wrote the story. It is about gossip. It's the story of The Soup with Joel McHale. Wow. We don't really know anything about it

other than that it's going to be about aliens. It's shot in Cape May, New Jersey, around the time of a lot of that New Jersey drone stuff. But it's also going to be one of the first movies about aliens, one of the first big movies about aliens that's coming out after a lot of the UAP being taken seriously. Did Spielberg say anything about the inspiration for the movie? Nope.

Just one of those things he was like, I don't know, I've been thinking about this for 45 years. Yeah. It could be just thinking about it for 45 years. One of the things that indicates it might not be a present day thing is that it's a costume designers, the costume designer from West side story. So, not saying that everybody's dressed exactly like the characters from West side story. Yeah.

Yeah. You're saying maybe though. Yeah. You're saying maybe, I mean, I don't think a costume designer is like they, and they only do 1940s and 50s street gangs. Uh, that kind of vibe. I'm here to put cool greasing or hit the dish was actually the show. Danielle fish shell from boy meets world used to host.

And like, I knew there was an actual show called the dish. It was a real, okay. So maybe this is like the topanga from boy meets world adaptation. Topanga meets Aliens. I love it. I hope the best version is Steven Spielberg was like, I saw this talk and it really got me thinking about a story that I could tell.

I would love to see that version of this Spielbergian take on the era we're in right now. Yeah. But with this, I'm like, fine, whatever. I'll just take nope as my interesting timeline question as well You know I'd love the I love the question about whether he was just thinking about this for the better part of a half century And it kind of comes to fruition now or I don't know the timeline is like as you were pointing out Jack

He's shooting this in New Jersey around the same time as the still controversial New Jersey drone invasion, right? So there is a non-zero possibility without dismissing people, there is a non-zero possibility that maybe some folks saw the shooting of drones. And they were like, those are aliens. And they had, you know, I, like what I would do is set up a dummy number that the production runs so you could call the report, the drones.

And then you would be like, don't tell anybody about this. Yeah. It was actually still this Stevie's new thing we're doing. Yeah. I thought you guys on, uh, you know, stuff they don't want you to know land on the UAP stuff And I guess intended. Yeah. Yeah Thank you. Yeah

I'm gonna tell you we've received A lot of correspondence, especially with uh, new jersey happening. We've received a lot of correspondence, not just from people who say, you know, I'm not in aviation. I saw some weird stuff in the sky, you know, what, what is going on. We've also received correspondence from pilots, from like ATC folks who would be able to, more so than the average person, understand what they're seeing. The people who can see the- For a living, they're like, I look at sky stuff all the time. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Kind of my thing. Oh, yeah. Kind of like one of the main guys where I work. Let me give my shoulders right here. I know what lights look like. Oh, I get a lot of dandruff.

Yeah. Thank you. That's what I was brushing off. It's true. Again, I get a lot of dandruff. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was brushing off. It's true. Again, I rented this jacket. Came with the dandruff? Weird it came with it. Yeah.

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I hate you both. All right. So I'm sorry. Sorry. You're being a Democrat here. I hate you both. Sorry, you're being a Democrat here. Where'd you guys land? You're right. There's clearly always going to be some technological discrepancy between

what classified technology can reach and what the public knows about. That's a given. I think we often overestimate the chasm between those two things. But I can say it seems like there's something weird about it, but I'm still on the fence because the reporting is very much jam yesterday, jam tomorrow, but never ever jam today. Discl, disclosure as a concept seems to be. Conveniently trotted out as a don't pay attention to this hand.

Look at this hand kind of thing. And that's, that part is concerning. Uh, but I do think, you know, we we've talked about it in the past. I do think there is a greater public consensus regarding strange shit in the sky. Right. And there is like drone technology is changing warfare and surveillance. Remember, when that, remember one of those balloons came over from China, and everybody freaked out by balloons, by balloons, and there was some guys in Montana who are like, fuck it, man, I'll just shoot this out. This guy is American. I it with that mentality. The reason I'm

bringing that up to sew this up quickly is that with that mentality, we would naturally assume that if there were a huge amount of UAPs, as many as are being reported in the scuttlebutt online, then someone would have successfully returned with evidence at that point. That's the question. It's like looking for Bigfoot or the Yaren. Yeah. You think nobody's trying to fucking shoot a Bigfoot motherfucker?

You don't think someone's going to shoot one of these fucking alien things down if they fucking could? Right. Right, right. If they were there, it's kind of like the question with when people from Western Europe thought that gorillas were a myth, right? One of the things that really changed their minds, because they weren't gonna listen to the people who actually lived in the area, was finding poop. You know what I mean?

If a bigfoot exists, exists that wears the poop if UAPs are that's prominent right if they proliferate at the frequency described then Why isn't there anything right? Yeah, where's the poop? We added some did someone bring back like a fucking Chad gorilla turd, like in this like in a six foot coffin. And they're like, here's your evidence. And the like King Leopold's like, there's shits out there.

It is big. That was by the way, like King Leopold. Impressive. Like I got it. Got it. Got to take shots at the Belgian fuck wit. If I ever have a chance. Terrible guy.

All right. And finally, Mondelez international is suing Aldi Aldi, a LDI or is that, is that how I'm pronouncing it? Yeah. Claiming that the chain blatantly copies their products, including chips, Ahoy wheat, thins and Oreos. They're I don't see it.

They're seeking monetary damages and a court order to bar Aldi from selling products. They copy their trademarks and we have some visual images here of the Nutter Butter or as the Aldi version is called, Peanut Butter Creme, Chips Ahoy or Chocolate Chip and Oreo or just Original, which is a wild claim. And all the packaging and coloring is. The coloring is identical. It's like they, you know, like in Photoshop, you take the eyedropper tool to be like, I want this exact CMYK number, like this exact tone. It's like, ah, y'all. There's like a white glow behind the Oreos, like against the exact same color, like the exact same color, like the exact same color, like the exact

same color, like the exact same color, like the exact same color, like the exact same color, like the exact same color, like theYK number, like this exact tone. There's like a white glow behind the Oreos, like against the exact same color of blue, everything. It's, it's kind of impressive. Like just an amazing, amazingly bossy, just recreation of the packaging. They didn't save anything for the swim back. That's for sure. Okay. Okay. Wait.

So I get why if you're the Mondelez people, I get why you would want to sue, right? Because. Yeah. Cause you're a greedy piece of shit and you can't stand that your overpriced product is now creating a market for people to buy a lower priced one and they're just anyway. Sure.

Yeah. But that's, that's where, that's where we're going with it, man. Because they remember how there are the knockoff cereal brands. You know what I mean? They're in the same aisle. They're in a different shelf. How have those people not been sued or have they been sued?

We're just not up to date. I'm sure they've threaded the needle enough where they're like, it's the red box and it's like the fruits circles. Right. Fruit hoops. the needle enough where they're like, it's the red box and it's like the fruits circles. Like I'm sure it was at one point called like fruit hoops and had two can Dan and T. Two can you'll. But the, that case said this, it has it's Simpson's Sherry Bobbins, big energy. Let's just switch a couple of letters like Ricky Rouse or Ronald Ruck.

Yeah. It must be, I think more important for sales in this division for them to like actually trick people because yeah, I mean, you could just like put the picture of the cookies on a white package and be like, I mean, people know what Oreos look like, but they apparently- Yeah. If it looks like it, I'm like, I'll be honest. It's like buying replica sneakers.

It's like, it looked like the real thing. So I'll try it. I'm done. Because if it wasn't like a nondescript sort of like, you know, blue, blue stripe store brand kind of thing, then I'm like, I don't know. But if you just give me that Oreo blue, I'm like, okay. And it's a dollar 50 cheaper. Yeah.

I mean, that was worth it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I mean, again, because this is it's a dollar 50 cheaper. Yeah. I mean, that was worth it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I mean, again, cause this is like the whole thing you see the, there's like this whole drama on Tik TOK I saw with like cake bakers getting mad that Walmart was selling like a heart shaped cake and like home bakers, like they're undercutting us and a lot of people were like, look, there are different markets for things there's the people that will only have money to buy the Walmart one.

And then the people that will buy from you. So don't worry about competing in different lanes because you're offering a completely different thing. And this is like sort of the reverse of that where they're like, we need to undercut anybody who's going to try and capture our customer base, because those are the people that we're trying to squeeze every penny out of. Aren't there other, aren't there other quote unquote, like rip offs or derivatives of these brands? Like Hydrox cookies.

Hydrox were the originals, I think. Okay. Yeah. Oreo's got a lot of nerve here. Oh wow. Oh, so, oh, see somebody should come back with Hydrox is like the boogie man. Yeah. But I don't know.

Yeah. Just, uh, to your point, like Mondales has been sued. They were fined $336 million by the European commission for illegally limiting cross border sales across the EU in order to quote, maintain higher prices for its products to the detriment of consumers. So they'll do whatever it takes to be able to keep prices the size they want by fucking up the competition, I think. Yeah.

I do. I've never understood the rules around this. Like what is too close? Like the CVS and Rite Aid brand medicines that are able to just be like real cunty on the packaging, like check the active ingredients in Tylenol gel caps. And you might be surprised at what you find. Like, like I'm assuming they're able to get away with that just because they have probably healthy corporate lobbying. Well, I also that I'm sure it's just that like, you don't own that specific active drug. We just use this, this compound in your name brand thing.

And they're like, yeah, we got that shit too. Right. Your Otter, we're actually providing free advertising for Tylenol gel caps. Exactly. We're telling them to compare right now. Pick up the box. Right. Oh, ours is cheaper.

Okay. Could Aldi just be like, check out the active ingredients in Oreos. Yeah. In big lettering. Right. So it just literally says- High fructose corn syrup. Yeah, just be like, check out the active ingredients in Oreos. Yes, in big lettering. Right. So it just literally says, High fructose corn syrup.

We've got it all here. All right. Well, Ben Boland, what a pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? Yeah, you can check us out on stuff they don't want you to know. You can find us on Ridiculous History. I'd also

like to plug real quick a thing that's pretty important to me right now, a show called Wrongful Conviction. We were able to interview the legendary activist Leonard Peltier. This is a three-part interview. We were able to speak with Mr. Peltier where he is currently on house arrest in his home, so not quite free, but hopefully on the way. Please check it out. These are stories that more people need to know about. You can also dig through the Ridiculous History archives and find none other than Miles and Jack hanging out on ridiculous history. I'm laughing because I'm checking the last time I sent you guys an email. I know. We need to get back to you.

My house burned down, man. Yeah. That's a pretty bulletproof excuse. Jack, you got nothing. I know. He uses it too. Miles' house burned down, man. He used it in a meeting earlier. He was like He uses it too. Miles' house burned down, man. He used it in a meeting earlier. He's like, dude, you know, Miles' house burned down, man. So.

Wow. Wow. So that's why you haven't been brushing as much? You have a really bad cavity, Mr. O'Brien. I'm not saying it's harder on me, but I'm just saying. That's why I got the cavity, Doc. Just unbelievable. Unbelievable what happened to my friend.

Oh, geez. And I am required for a dear member of the Zeit Gang to say hi to Albert and Hazel. You know this is real because I pulled up my phone to check the message. Where did you meet Albert and Hazel at? Albert and Hazel, I believe are animals. Oh, okay. That's it. That's our Zeit Gang? Well, their person is Zeit Gang.

How do you know the person? Let's get to that. Oh, well, the their person is I think. How do you know the person? Let's get. Oh, I know the person because we do comedy stuff together. Oh, OK. OK. I've told you in a corner here, this is supposed to be a brief shout out. And I don't make me start doing my small talk. Oh, like a CIA fucking spook investigator. I might get to the bottom of this shit. Don't make me small talk.

Don't make me small talk you. I got like a fucking car battery with jumper cables. I don't want to do some awesome talking about. Oh, I love to chit chat to you. Yeah. What's the weather? Seems like a fucked up character in a TV show. It's like bring him in for some small talk.

Actually, that's a I think you're so interesting. Oh, God. That's a brilliant idea. I think you're so interesting. Oh, God. How's it going today? Rejected Batman character. Monday, huh? It's Sir Small Talk. Oh, it usually isn't hot this time of year, is it? Why are you hitting me with a phone book?

Ben, is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yes. Yeah. I like this group I found called Delivery Boys. I would say they're new old school hip hop. From what I can tell, it's these four guys in New York who were doing bicycle bodega deliveries and they started freestyling around. Well, I guess they were waiting on jobs, but they're pretty good.

You can see them on the radar, other stuff like that. So their song Moccasins is pretty clean. Nice. Hell yeah. Miles, where can people find you as their work media? You've been enjoying. Man, find me everywhere at miles of gray, find Jack in the basketball podcast.

Miles and Jack in the Boosies. Now talking about the finals match up between the Thunder and the Pacer. The Thunder. The Thunder's and the Pacer are going to be playing each other. That'll be fun. I'm actually pretty excited about it. Those teams are both good at basketball. They're pretty good. I think the Lakers are better even though they verifiably aren't as good, but I'm not well.

It's all matchups, man. It's all matchups. Exactly, dude. And I'm just so unwell since the house burned down, bro. Let me have this. Anyway, find us there. Also find me at 420dayfiance, talking about 90-day fiance, a work of media I like. At KenWhite.B.Sky.Social, it's like the Pope hat from Twitter, but now I'm blue sky, posted, why were we not told that Robo Joe has not had his firmware updated in eight years and is plagued by buggy programming and poor design choices? Thank you.

I asked six MIT robotics experts who were deported to Burkina Faso. Today from Jake Tapper in the New York Times. Oh, also one more thing to promote. I was on the latest episode of The Past Times. That's Gareth and Dave from The Dollop. That's their other show they do where basically Dave reads us a newspaper from a very specific date in the before times. And we just have fun with it.

It was super fun. So obviously, if y'all fuck with the dollop and I hope you fuck with me, you should definitely check out the latest episode of the past times. Let's see some works of media. I've been enjoying. Drickson Profar Propagandist tweeted,

the rehearsal season three is going to end with Nathan Fielder playing shortstop for the San Diego Padres. That just feels right. Fernando Iniguez tweeted, the other two proves once again how ahead of its time it was. And it's the scene where they're in a publicist boardroom talking about how a new Hadid sister just dropped. And they're like, yeah, her face actually took a little while to settle,

but now she's looking great. Literally on Friday, there was a Pop Crave thing that said, Gigi Hadid and Bella Hadid unveil younger sister, 23-year-old Aidan Nix. Wow. Over 20 years ago, our dad, well single, had a brief relationship that led to a pregnancy. We first connected in late 2023, and from that moment on, we've embraced Aidan with open arms. So they didn't exactly say, her face took a little time to settle, but it's- Unveiled a new sister.

Unveiled a new Hadid sister. New Hadid job. Put it in the intelligence brief, right? Yeah, exactly. I think that's the only thing that would be in there. A third Hadid sister just dropped. Just hit the tower. And finally, Chris Wade tweeted, I love Del Taco, but their hot sauce color coordination is completely whack.

Yeah. And they have three hot sauce levels, original, medium, hot. The coloring, so I'll tell you this, one is orange, one is black, one is red. Which would you think goes with which in ascending order of hotness from least hot to hottest? Red, black, orange. red. Which would you think goes with which in ascending order of hotness from least hot to hottest? Red, black, orange. That's what you would think is the correct. That isn't that what is correct?

That is what's correct. That's what they have. I eat a lot of Del Taco. I eat a lot of Del Taco, man. I'm sorry. I just answered that reflexively. Yeah, orange is the hottest. But orange should not be.

I feel like it should be black. Black, right? Black should be the hottest. This is where your Taco Bell mind is coming in. Right. Because the black one equals death. And even then, it's not that hot. You got to free your Taco Bell mind, man.

Jack, you got to do some psychedelics, bro. To go original red, then black as medium? Yeah, I get it. No, it's- And then hot as orange is so like I don't even evoking the habanero Yes, well I I have a my conspiracy pitch on this is uh, as someone who's partially colorblind red green colorblind What if the person in charge of coloring the sauces? You know was like me and and they were like, you know, let's put the one in the middle

that's definitely... That's easy to tell. Right, now we know. Just like, you know, traffic lights. Mm-hmm. That's right. Is that how traffic lights are? Anyways. I'm not in charge of the lights.

I can't believe they did you red, green, colorblind people like that. That's fucked up. We're just winging it, man. We're just winging it. I don't know. It looked right to me. What kind of a fucked up God would do that? Well, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find me on Blue Sky at Jack OB, the number one.

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They gotta look like pee-pee. He's not even talking about his own. He's just noting that yellow diamonds in general look like pee pee. They gotta look like pee pee. He's not even talking about his own. He's just noting that yellow diamonds in general look like pee pee. Just an observation. Look, Clips is coming back. One again, I loved Lord Willen when that album came out. I was a big Neptune's fan,

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