The Daily Zeitgeist - Denzel’s Weird Boozing Habits, The Right’s Dumb Upton Sinclair 11.28.17

Episode Date: November 29, 2017

In episode 36 Jack & Miles are joined again by comedian Edgar Momplaisir to discuss the new Grammy's nominations, Denzel Washington's code of ethics, James O'Keefe, Trump's Pocahontas comments, th...e new Disney film Coco & Frozen's Olaf short, & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:20 For November 28th, 2017, my name is Jack O'Brien, a. o'brien aka apple jacks and i'm joined by my co-host mr miles gray that's right it's your boy armin tamzerian aka principal spinner because i'm nice with the fidgets he really is that's impressive and we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious improviser edgar mon plusir. Oingo Boingo. That's right. That's an early catchphrase. Not even the biggest fans of the show know how early Oingo Boingo goes. So guys, if we've
Starting point is 00:02:54 released the last tapes, you'll know. Basement tapes. Edgar, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are as a human being? I searched Prince Charles. Why will he never be king? Because I remember someone told me that Prince Charles was never going to be king. But then I Googled it, and that's not true.
Starting point is 00:03:10 He could be king. Yeah, that's very true. But people think that he's going to abdicate it. Like, they think that he's not going to do it. Right. Why would he do that? Just because he's, like, kind of an old dude. He's just, like, older.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah, he's just old, and he's, like, filled with so much controversy. And I think, like, everyone just thinks he sucks. Yeah just thinks he sucks because he cheated on Diana and probably killed her. Well, it depends on who you believe. I think the Queen did it. Damn. If we're going straight off the tabloids, I mean, the tabloids always point the finger at Queen Elizabeth. I had a question. If Queen Elizabeth died within the week, do you guys think that it was because she couldn't handle that Prince Harry was marrying a black woman?
Starting point is 00:03:44 I don't know. I don't know. If she died this week, could that be a reason? I mean handle that Prince Harry was marrying a black woman? I don't know. I don't know. Like if she died this week, could that be a reason? I mean, she's going to bring a black person in here? And then she died. She's lived through a lot. That would be weird if she died this week. She's made it through all the things.
Starting point is 00:03:57 Edgar, what's something you think is overrated? Pixar movies. I think Pixar movies are hella overrated. I was just talking with my girlfriend. I think that if Pixar made a movie with, like, a black kid, and he goes out, and he has a good day, and he's just chilling with his friends, and then on the walk home he gets shot, then I would respect Pixar movies. But a house on balloons? I'm sorry. House of balloons.
Starting point is 00:04:20 Oh, the weekend. Yeah, the weekend. The weekend Pixar movies. Yeah, that would be dope. That would be some x-ray shit not for kids um so pixar movies just aren't oh man real enough i think it's just like you want a woken up station yeah i want a station uh pixar movie i think it's like it just seems like they're pandering now like i don't know this might be fucked up a lot of people think coco
Starting point is 00:04:41 is dope because like representation but it's like is it really or is it just like yo we're just gonna make one for y'all now because we've already made a bunch of like what the motivations are yeah it just seems whack to me it seems corny do you like any animated movies i do what's your favorite animated movie oh uh right now currently is this one i saw from this french filmmaker called uh my or maybe it's a swiss filmmaker uh my life as zucchini it's about like an orphanage of kids who've all gotten there for very fucked up reasons. And they turn to zucchinis? No, no, no. One of them is called Zucchini.
Starting point is 00:05:10 But he accidentally killed his mother. And he's sent to an orphanage. It's very sad, but it's heartfelt. I like those kinds. Once my son is able to start watching movies, I'm definitely going to go to you for recommendations. Because it sounds like you're good with the uh kids films oh you show me a racer yeah show them a racer head um what's something you think is underrated ramen from like restaurants like not like restaurants
Starting point is 00:05:37 it's the most popular fucking thing right now i don't think it's as popular as it should be bro like i've been handing up ramen spots lately there's really there's one really dope one by uh That's the most popular fucking thing right now. I don't think it's as popular as it should be, bro. Like, I've been handing out ramen spots lately. There's one really dope one by Garage Pizza in Silver Lake. And I was like, yo, this is fucking tight. Silver Lake Ramen? There's that one. There's another one on Hollywood in Normandy that's really dope.
Starting point is 00:05:58 And it's, like, cheap. It's affordable. But it's fucking good. Yeah. So I think people aren't respecting ramen as, like, damn right now. I think in L think in la it's probably properly rated but across the country i don't think i think maybe most people is as big a deal respect it well it was funny because even when we went to atlanta we we had ramen for lunch like ramen was it was popular in atlanta but atlanta is definitely more metropolitan i mean
Starting point is 00:06:19 look if it's if it's out in knoxville if my japanese brethren have made it out to knoxville you know what i mean out there moving that noodle work work, making that tonkotsu, baby. Who knows? But, yeah, it is. It's funny. I only laugh because it's literally the most popular food in L.A. right now. It's like cupcakes 10 years ago. Poke.
Starting point is 00:06:37 Poke. That's like the most popular thing right now. Like raw fish is like everyone's on that shit now. Don't ask me how to pronounce anything. Apparently, I was saying Betsy Davos, and I just got lit the fuck up. Did you really? In my Twitter DMs, yeah. RIP your mentions.
Starting point is 00:06:53 My mentions, yeah. My girlfriend asked me how to pronounce Bechtel this morning, and I feel like that was very problematic. Oh, yeah. She asked me, yeah. She was like, how do you pronounce this? And I said, you should know. Oh, you did it with Bechtel. Damn.
Starting point is 00:07:00 How do you pronounce this? And I said, you should know. Oh, you did it with that? Damn. Well, I do think that this is like a – I don't think anybody needs to feel bad about not being able to pronounce things anymore because we just read everything. That is true. No one's talking anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:15 We don't even talk to each other. We just sit across from each other and text. Right, my fellow millennials? That's right. Non-NARC cop. All right. We're going to go into format. Here on the Daily Zeitgeist, we're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there changing the world, whether you are looking or not.
Starting point is 00:07:35 We talk about politics and the president and news, but we also talk about movies and supermarket tabloids. So, yeah, we're trying to take the temperature of what is going on in the national shared consciousness. And we'd like to start off by asking our guest for a myth, something that the national shared consciousness believes in that you know is not true based on your personal life experience. Yeah, and it's Will Smith is not black. I believe that Will Smith is actually Cuban. And you believe this based on? My personal experience of what black people look and act like.
Starting point is 00:08:09 And Will Smith, why is he always in movies with a Latina cast member, huh? Because he knows who he is. And we've pushed him into this black category. But he's not really black. You're saying it's not the reluctance of studios to have two black leads in a film so they water it down by having one black man and one Latina? No, they try to make Will Smith comfortable. Well, but that is interesting. Like, until really, really late in the game, like, basically a couple years ago, like,
Starting point is 00:08:34 Hollywood Studios still would not have a black man and a white woman, like, kiss on camera. Like, the Pellick and Brief, they cast Denzel Washington, who was, like, the hottest actor at the time, and Julia Roberts, the hottest actress at the time. And then they refused to have them kiss on camera. Actually, Denzel Washington is the one who refused to kiss Julia Roberts. Yeah, apparently Denzel, according to super producer Anna Hosnier, has like a personal code where he won't kiss white women on camera because he doesn't want to piss off black women. That's a real thing. That's a real thing.
Starting point is 00:09:11 You sound surprised by that. You're like, I guess black women would be mad. Angry black women. I mean, it's a real force. Oh, I got texts on my phone all day about it. Because you tweeted a picture of you and your girl. And they were like, who the fuck? Who is this?
Starting point is 00:09:24 And I said, she's Latina. It'sina it's okay and i'm like no it's not have you ever seen a tyler perry movie the man always leaves for a white woman it's a consistent thing right in tyler perry movies i've heard gold digger when he get all he leave the ass for a white girl um apparently if he plays a bad guy in a movie that bad guy has to die by the end of the movie what a code i know i love that he has a code i've heard of this code because my friend says that he gets drunk on like he'll only get drunk on a boat in the middle of the ocean and he'll wait there until he gets sober it's true
Starting point is 00:10:02 then he'll come back so denzel washington doesn't drink on land like he'll like when he's like chilling around people he's like no i'm good i'll have a club soda but when he wants to get wasted he'll go into the ocean and he like you know it's like a like a fucking werewolf it's like a binge it's like a binge it's like nautical alcoholism yeah to me like the werewolf thing is like because i'm a danger to everybody around the only way to stay safe is to put me on a boat in the middle of the sea where I'm only a harm danger to myself and the boat. Right. Yeah, that's like the most dangerous thing in the world.
Starting point is 00:10:32 I would never get drunk on a boat because I could just see my ass just falling overboard. He's protecting us. In a blackout. He's like, I have to be chained up and feed me shots of Hennessy because I could go crazy. I think flight is like there's a little bit of truth in it where Denzel does know what it's like to lose yourself to drugs and stuff. I have a whole thing written into somebody else's article about how when you look at movie posters for Will Smith, he's looking directly at the camera like, accept me, we're the same. Right, right, right. But when you look at Denzel movie posters, he's like looking off to the side, always
Starting point is 00:11:10 to the same side, I think because he knows he looks awesome like that. And he knows he's black. But yeah, it's almost like he recognizes that there's like racism there, whereas Will Smith is like, come on, we're cool. He's like, I'm OJ. Right. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:11:26 I'm not black, I'm Will Smith. I think that comparison is so on point. And it's going to make black people mad, but Will Smith doesn't care about black people. He's not very vocal. I'm surprised at how intelligent he is, that he's not taking up more of a mantle for the cause of inclusion. Because he's rich. Go into the
Starting point is 00:11:41 comments of the movie, what was it, Focus? Where Will Smith, the main love interest is Margot Robbie. Right. And Jesus Christ, man, the comments on that trailer when that first came out were like insane. Just like the most racist shit ever. Man, and he did more than kiss her on that movie too. Right.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Is that the one where they're both scheming? Yes. Yeah, they're both scheming on each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Scam. It's like Matchstick Men, exceptolas cage is having sex with his daughter has anyone seen matchstick men yes that track all right cool thanks for putting that in my head uh so we're gonna get into the stories that are going on right now and uh the grammys were announced, you guys. Yeah. Yeah, it's a big year. For the first time ever, the award for album of the year has no white men nominated,
Starting point is 00:12:33 which, as our project manager, Sophie Lichterman, said, they'll still probably give it to Beck, but it's still a cool milestone. The albums that are nominated, Awaken My Love by Childish Gambino, amazing album. 444, Jay-Z, not his best album, but his best, as we were talking earlier, best latter-day Jay-Z album, like post-Black album album. Damn by
Starting point is 00:12:54 Kendrick Lamar, of course. Melodrama by Lorde, haven't heard much of that album. And then Bruno Mars 24 Karat Magic. So they'll give it to Lorde, obviously. Are the songs good it to Lorde, obviously. Are the songs good from the Lorde album? Isn't that one where she's standing by a beach?
Starting point is 00:13:11 That's the one everyone's always talking about. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That one. What's that? How'd that go? I don't know. She's standing by a beach. I just know that that's on the radio.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I'm just assuming because they gave Adele the album of the year over Beyonce last year. I've never stormed out of a room harder than when that shit happened. And by room, you mean the living room you were watching the Grammys on? No, I said I was there at the Grammys. No, I can't. Nope, not now. I don't know. Of those albums, do any of you, what's your favorite of those albums
Starting point is 00:13:38 on there? To win or my favorite? Or personally, not taking out the politics of the Grammys. Awaken My Love. Awaken My Love would be my favorite. But to win, I think 24 Karat Magic is going to win, man. It's the most pop out of all those albums. It's the most commercially successful, I think. I think 24 Karat Magic is going to win, and A Dark Horse is damn.
Starting point is 00:13:58 I think damn will win, and I think damn should win. I think damn will probably. I don't know. 24 Karat has that safe appeal where it's like, look's like look he's not white and also we like this so doesn't everybody win with this one yeah but also yeah to me awaken my love was the album that i listened to that like i actually like screamed like as i was listening to it because i was so it's so good yeah he made like a psych funk album in 2016. Definitely unexpected.
Starting point is 00:14:26 Yeah. And does it really well. Like it doesn't feel forced or anything. I mean, yes. People were so upset when that album dropped though. Yeah. A lot of people were like, what the fuck is this? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Because they wanted the Gambino rapper stuff. The nerdy rap. Dude, he's an artist. You know, this is what you get. This is the album he decided to make. Maybe next year he'll hit you with like a rap album. Donald Glover needs to work harder, man. He's not doing enough.
Starting point is 00:14:47 He's not doing enough out there. He has the potential to win an EGOT in a single year. He really does. That's kind of wild. And the EGOT is for listeners? Emmy, Grammy, Oscar, Tony. That's the one that I'm not convinced that he could win is the Tony. Tony?
Starting point is 00:15:05 That's the only one I'm just like, I don't know. I don't know if he wrote a play. Oh, okay. Yeah. You got me. Wrote a play with Lin-Manuel. Like called ATL or something? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:12 That'd be dope. So, yeah, I don't know. This is a big deal because the Grammys, I don't know, they have a history. Like, I almost never pay attention to the Grammys. Even when I got the news alert this morning, I was just like, ignore. Because these are some things on the Grammys resume. So for Best Rock Song, the year that Nevermind came out, they gave it to, instead of Smells Like Teen Spirit, they gave it to Eric Clapton's unplugged version of Layla.
Starting point is 00:15:44 In 2000, the year that kid a and marshall mathers lp came out they gave it to a steely dan album which i steely dan is has made some great music but i don't think their 2000 their their record that came out in 2000 is like uh what people remember that year for and in 1966 the year that eleanor rigby and good vibrations came out uh they gave it to uh winchester cathedral what the fuck is that like a church group come at me on twitter but i think that one was right you like winchester cathedral i just think that good vibrations and eleanoranor Rigby are kind of whack songs. Good Vibrations is so good, man. All right, man. Listen, Beach Boys and the Beatles are ass.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I'm so sorry. Wow. So Winchester Cathedral is a song by the New Vaudeville Band. I'll take that back. I can't even stand by that. Everybody should go check that out on... The New Vaudeville... What is it, like upright piano and like spoons?
Starting point is 00:16:47 It's like funny hats and stuff actually the thing that you just made up right there is probably better damn where's our fucking grammy yeah man um so yeah it'll be interesting to see how they managed to fuck this up one of my favorite best new artist wins was boni vera over frank ocean because everyone kept tweeting all these black people kept tweeting who's bonnie bear um that was over what uh orange channel orange it was for best new artist so he just yeah he just won but those it was uh Iver, Bon Iver versus Channel Orange. Great album. Both amazing albums.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I, man. Channel Orange. Channel Orange really blew my mind. Yeah. All right. We're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16, 2017, was murdered.
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Starting point is 00:21:31 And we're back. So we wanted to talk about this big Veritas sting. So this dude, James O'Keefe who is um not really a journalist he's more like he is to journalism what those youtube prank videos are to comedy journalism i guess he's just like a youtube prank video guy or like what viners are to comedy right right yeah that would have been a better version my analogy was not well constructed but that was was off top, man. And I've been thinking about it. And I respect it. So what happened?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Miles, you were telling us about this attempted sting like two weeks ago. Yo, okay, yeah. So this guy, James O'Keefe, he has this organization called Project Veritas where their whole thing is to infiltrate liberal groups, media groups, nonprofit organizations, organizations, and try and do undercover video shit. Like a Planned Parenthood shit? Yeah, and then selectively edit it to make the organization or entity look as terrible as possible. And he's never actually dug up real shit.
Starting point is 00:22:38 He's always just found soundbites he's able to piece together and then be like, oh, look at the New York Times. They're in line with James Comey, which is a whole other story I can get into later because a personal friend of mine was caught up in one of James O'Keefe's stings. But anyway, it sounds like this is a personal thing to me. Yeah, maybe you guys buckle your fucking seatbelts, man, because I'm about to air this dude out.
Starting point is 00:22:58 So he basically the Washington Post broke the most damning Roy Moore stories about his alleged pedophilia and sexual assault. And for the longest time, we've seen things come out that people have been trying to discredit the Washington Post. There was someone on Twitter who was like, my wife was approached and offered $1,000 to make a false accusation against Roy Moore. And then we covered this a couple weeks ago. There was that really bizarre robocall that went into Alabama with, like, the most offensive version of a Jewish guy named Bernie Bernstein. This is Bernie Bernstein from the Washington Post, and I'll give you monies if you lie about Roy Moore. And I'm even doing a better version because this guy who was acting couldn't even do, like, a real New York accent. Also, they came up with the name Bernie Bernstein?
Starting point is 00:23:44 Come on, niggas, fucking tryas that's so wild so next level so this is like so we don't know if those are jewy jurstein and exactly right exactly that is like they do not put a lot of thought into fake names as we will find out oh yeah it's like my name's andy hanukkah like you know it's like what the fuck like okay sure right so we don't know these things are connected yeah but we do know that there is a push clearly to discredit the washington post and make roy moore look better um so the latest fuckery uh from project veritas was he basically sent in a woman to lie about the fact that she had hooked up with roy moore in the early 90s as a teenager and they were having a sexual relationship and he made her get an abortion.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And so she wanted to come out and break that story with The Washington Post. And that's like the false pretense that this woman who works with Project Veritas under James O'Keefe was sent to do. And her whole story was like, obviously, if true, would have been a bombshell other thing. was like you know obviously if true like would have been a bombshell other thing um but she kind of like rubbed the washington post people the wrong way because like she was really adamant every time she talked to me she's like well you guys will do everything this will end roy more right like i want him out of the race and being very transparent like it's like so clear essentially what james o'keefe thinks the washington post would be into how they think like i think he was hoping she would say something like this will you know this will end him right and i think the the sexiest
Starting point is 00:25:08 soundbite he was hoping for was like yes because it is our mission as a washington post to to smear roy moore in any way even if it is a dubious accusation right or whatever so but push comes to shove he doesn't realize that the washington post are actual fucking journalists right so they don't yeah they don't know what actual journalism is. So they just aren't prepared for this. Because they think it's fact checking. They think it's easy as going, hey, a fake robocall, Bernie Bernstein. And again, not that they're connected, but the thought, the logic being applied by people
Starting point is 00:25:36 trying to discredit the Washington Post is like, it's that easy. Like, just tell them. And so it's very dangerous because, A, in doing so, you're also trying to invalidate credible victims of sexual assault, which is like are on its service, completely fucked up and deranged anyway. But also this guy, he is the worst at actually digging any kind of real story up. Like he has a pattern of failure, which we'll get into later. So cut to this Washington Post journalist. get into later so cut to this washington post journalist uh she meets with this woman who calls herself uh jamie phillips who is the accuser but what this what this woman doesn't realize is that this woman this other journalist from the post she came with fucking receipts right like she didn't
Starting point is 00:26:18 just go to be like yeah let's hear more about your story they're like hold up like in the process of talking to someone like hold on we found some stuff we found a gofundme page where she was like hey i need money to go to new york so i can work for the daily caller as like a investigative journalist to bring down the liberal mainstream media right it's literally on her gofundme page with her name on it right so they're like okay this is already weird they did they looked into her like where she said she worked and these other things and and nothing added up. So basically, the Washington Post, they decided to turn the tables, and they're like, you know what? Let's set up some cameras.
Starting point is 00:26:52 Let's wear a mic. Yeah, because this is what James O'Keefe and Project Veritas does to other news outlets. So they're like, you know what? Let's turn the tables up. So we're about to play the clip, which is like this whole interaction with washington post and this mole jamie phillips really comes to a head and this is right off the heels of the washington post reporter sliding a uh like a screen grab of the gofundme page and be like so you want to work for uh conservative undercover gotcha journalism she's like uh no no and she's like well who did you interview with over there and she begins to try and explain who she's interviewing with and she
Starting point is 00:27:29 comes up with a very generic name right and this is taking place in a uh public restaurant which is why it's so loud like the woman was like i want to meet you uh the person who originally reported on roy moore in a public restaurant and the the Washington Post shows up having actually fact-checked her background. Okay. And so who was the person that you interviewed with? It was a lady named Kathy. What was her last name? Johnson. Kathy Johnson?
Starting point is 00:27:59 Uh-huh. Kathy Johnson. And where was it? In the New York area. Uh-huh. But I don't know why we are going into all this yet. I haven't even agreed to go through with the story yet. Mm-hmm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:14 Well, since you, you know, since you contacted us. Yeah. You reached out to us. You know, we, you know, went ahead and did some background checking. You know what I mean? On some of the things that you had told Beth about your story. And so this came up. And so I just want to understand what that's about and why you would want to work for the Daily Caller.
Starting point is 00:28:35 And I'm also, you know, frankly want to know if you're, who you might be working for now. I work, I still do mortgage work. Well, a little bit of a issue there. And, you know, I just want to ask you to explain it because when we called the company that you said that you worked for, um, they said they didn't have, that you didn't work there. So if you're not working for that mortgage company, where are you working? I, you said a friend, a friend, a branch, Maverick. And where is that? And it was out of Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:29:10 It was out of Atlanta. So did you still have an interest in, as this says, combating the lies and deceit of the liberal MSM? You still have an interest in and working in the conservative media movement to combat the lies and deceit of the liberal MSM. You still have an interest in working in the conservative media movement to combat the lies and deceit of the liberal MSM? Is that still your interest? No, not really. Yeah. Not at this point.
Starting point is 00:29:36 No. Not at this point. Catherine. Uh-huh. What's her last name? Johnson. Uh-huh. Okay. It's just funny, too. As it goes on, the woman who's trying to push the fake story then goes like you know can we just cancel this like he's getting too hot it's like this is not a columbia house get 12 cds for a penny type agreement here we like hey can i cancel this it's like you open pandora's box my my lady. Right. Yeah, I mean, they're putting resources into, like, you know, your story, checking your story. So it's not your right to be like, ah, never mind, cancel.
Starting point is 00:30:12 Which is odd because in his most desperate attempts to show that the Washington Post is like a half-assed journalistic operation where they'll take hearsay and publish it, operation where they just they'll take hearsay and publish it he basically just proved that they're on their shit and there's no way that you could come in there like and not be completely fact checked and verify that like what they're going to print has some kind of validity to their news organization yeah right they're not they're not a guy with a youtube channel i think if he had just put that lady what was her name jamie phillips through just like one acting class like just anything like maybe just a stand-up class she could have came in there with so much more confidence because you could hear it in her voice that she had never spoken out loud you know like an internet like email line yeah right she was
Starting point is 00:30:54 like yes like it was so quiet and gentle it was like right she was not ready to be on camera she needs that level one ready to come in there and like just give her like lies and then when the woman came at her with when the actual journalist asked her to like asked her details about her story yeah who was the yeah the woman that you were hearing that's stephanie mccrummon who works who also helped work on the the roy moore piece uh so i mean shout out to stephanie mccrummon too because she if you watch the video she is so mad she's like you are wasting my time right but also i'm so glad i'm looking at you because like your face yeah and it the ending you just like she's she just like storms off by the end it definitely
Starting point is 00:31:36 has the tone of the brendan dassey interviews from making a murder where like the cops are interviewing brendan dassey and he's like i don't know i don't know and the cops are just like so excited to just like right please just say that he just like grabbed her by the neck and killed her and he's like right and he's like yeah and this is like so you are trying to work with the conservative media movement to bring down the liberal mainstream media i don't know can i go home and watch wrestleman yeah exactly of what she was trying to do but james o'keefe did basically take down acorn right he did yeah i mean acorn was a community organizing group that was you know once obama won office like
Starting point is 00:32:18 a community organizer became like a real buzzword amongst like conservatives because like this guy was an organ like it just means you know how to talk to people in areas and like get people organized to, you know, collectively fight for their own benefit. Any black man in his early 30s. Right. Exactly. And so,
Starting point is 00:32:35 yeah, he went into like his whole, his whole career was kicked off because he went into acorn, like literally dressed like a super fly pimp. Like what is that? The association of community organizations for reform now wow um and yeah they they just advocate like i said for like low moderate income families it's it's it's very on its surface it's not a problematic organization right um and so he went into one branch dressed as
Starting point is 00:32:57 a as like basically if a frat had a pimps and hoes party. Like he was dressed like the costume pimp. And he was like, what did he say? I have a bunch of like prostitutes. He was trying to basically get Acorn to give him advice to like legal advice if he was trying to, you know, use the proceeds from prostitutes. It was like that part doesn't matter as much because all he did was go in, ask a bunch of weird questions. They were not very well trained and were representing the company. Right. It was an undercover video of people who weren't that well trained.
Starting point is 00:33:29 And he just caught people who, yeah, and they were like, yeah, I guess you could do that or whatever. And he's like, you see, this is what Acorn is about and blah, blah, blah. Him and when Andrew Breitbart was still alive, they were pushing this out to conservative media and eventually got to the mainstream where they're like, what's going on at Acorn? And everyone got duped. But the other thing is he wasn't even dressed as a pimp. Because they wanted to make you believe that he went in there dressed like that. Dressed as a pimp. And he wasn't. But it was just like two separate shots.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And he went in dressed as a law student. And then, yeah. So, you know, I dressed as a law student for Halloween this past year. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Everybody knows that. I'd argue you dress like a law student every day. Hey, fuck you, Edgar. It's not cool, man.
Starting point is 00:34:08 He wears like a barrister's wig. But so some of James O'Keefe's greatest hits since that time. So he tried to lure a CNN contributor onto a boat that he had stocked with dildos only to have his plan exposed by one of his own staff. Where do you accomplish that? I don't know. It was like, it really is prank video style. Like,
Starting point is 00:34:35 I think this is have too much money. It was, I think a CNN was like looking at young American conservative activists and that's how he even came into focus of CNN. And he was like, yeah, invited this journalist onto this boat. But like a document leaked where he was basically talking about what his actual plan was. This CNN report is like, I'm trying to interview young conservative activist people in the Obama era. And he was like, this is like, I guess from a leaked email or something.
Starting point is 00:35:01 He said, instead, I've decided to have a little fun instead Instead of giving her a serious interview, I'm going to punk CNN. He literally uses the word punk. He's like, Abby has been trying to seduce me to use me. Abby is from CNN, and she wasn't trying to seduce him in order to spin a lie about me. So I'm going to seduce her on camera to use her for a video. She'll get seduced on camera, and you'll get to see the awkwardness and the aftermath. Right. And she was just like, no, I'm not coming on your boat, bro.
Starting point is 00:35:25 It's definitely reminiscent of other conservative men that I've been in contact with who are like, yeah, she's trying to seduce me. It's like, no, that's just a woman talking to. Right, right, right. That's all in your head. So he also tried to do a sting on a senator from Louisiana named Mary Landreau in her office, but he ended up getting a misdemeanor conviction for trying to do that. How old is this dude? He's 33. What? And he's paying himself, like, we'll get to that later.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I mean, they've got a lot of money, this group. But that Mary Landreau thing, he tried to go in to, like, bug her phones. Right. And was dressed like a fucking phone crew. He was really trying to do some police academy. Yeah, like, hey, we're coming in. And they were like, hold up, dude. Who are you?
Starting point is 00:36:14 Why is your nose so long? It's a reference to Ocean's 12, if anyone's seen it. Oh, yes, yes, yes. We're all big fans. Bigger fans. Oh, they're rocking Arsenal gear in that one, too. Shout out to that movie. So he apparently tried to penetrate, like, every conservative thinks that George Soros is, like, behind this massive conspiracy.
Starting point is 00:36:35 He's, like, the one billionaire who actually, like, funds liberal causes. I'm still doing checks. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm still getting checks. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, so George Soros supposedly was paying all like called them and left a voicemail and forgot to hang up his phone. So then it kept recording as he like then went on to describe the entire sting to his staff. That's just like cartoon. And also he tried to impersonate a Hungarian businessman to this group because I think George Soros is Hungarian. And that was his clever thing was like, I'm going to do an accent.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Right. His voicemail. This makes me so upset. That's why I'm also curious because I think he likes the accent to do accents. So he may have had it. I mean, look, I don't know if he has anything to do with Bernie Bernstein, but I think he could also, he might have a career in doing voiceover acting. Right. He'd go far, man.
Starting point is 00:37:46 This is a pure example of just like a mediocre white dude who like is allowed to keep doing this shit and people are giving him money for it. If I tried to pitch a prank show right now, no one would buy it. But this dude is making money off of doing these trash ass. Well, so you have to recontextualize it because this could be a prank show, but he's like, this is a right wing got gotcha investigative journalism thing. I'm going to do it. I'm quitting comedy right now, and I'm going to become a right-wing prankster and make some money because I could do this so much better.
Starting point is 00:38:12 Well, you would have to do the version where you infiltrate alt-right organizations. Let's do it. And you'd be like the new token for the alt-right. Let's do it. And they're like, we love this guy, Edgar. He's great. He gets it. But yeah, the thing is, his money, he gets all kinds of money.
Starting point is 00:38:23 I think last year, they raised something like four and a half million dollars. What the fuck? His organization. Yeah. Project Veritas. Right. Because he is doing the work that people on the right who are a lot of billionaires are, you know, libertarians and, you know, radical right. They want the, you know the mainstream media taken down. Right. And the interesting thing is the Daily Beast wrote an article about kind of how this is indicative of what's going on with how wealthy conservatives use their money.
Starting point is 00:38:56 Because a lot of people think that these wealthy billionaire conservatives are like these back room, like old DC types drink a whiskey and scotch and like planning the end of the world when they're really just like more like the base just with a lot of money right so their ideas to invest in things are like hey this young guy who's like crazy enough to make a video like sure i'll throw some money behind that he even i'm pretty sure he received money from donald trump a few years ago too from donald trump's charity at all tax deductible because it's a non-profit i guess it's a non-profit guess. It's a nonprofit. Yeah. And these are only,
Starting point is 00:39:32 these are only the like fucked up stings that we found out about because they got like screwed up and process. I'm sure like if Donald Trump was paying him, he was trying to like, he like went undercover and was like, so Barack, we all know you're actually from Kenya, right? Like,
Starting point is 00:39:40 yeah. Am I right, brother? Like what? And he was wearing black. He's the type of dude who probably roll up in in blackface and go to an NAACP meeting and be like, hey, so how are we going to bring down the white man? Looks good, my niggas. Gets a derp. So in 2017, speaking of their huge budgets, he was trying to – his group was trying to infiltrate an environmental group.
Starting point is 00:40:04 He was trying to his group was trying to infiltrate an environmental group. And the environmental group was like, yeah, you're clearly like doing some sort of undercover shit because one of his operatives kept leaving his phone and cuff links on the table, like which were clearly recording devices. He'd be like, let me just take these cuff links off. And hold on. Can I get a light reading? Stop up to F five, six. Well, but so the Washington Post article was actually saying that Jamie Phillips kept doing the same thing with her purse. She would put her purse on the table. And then the Washington Post journalist like knew she was doing that to record stuff.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And so she put her purse right in front of it. And then Jamie Phillips like moved her purse over to the left she's like i'm sorry so whack so it's it's really worth reading about because i don't know it's just a lot of fun and also this shit is dangerous too because there are other videos that he puts out that really spreads this kind of misinformation absolutely and really has people thinking like in these alternate realities i've seen that pimp video like i was just like oh i remember that oh it was man every news outlet covered it because it like it was treated like a scandal and that was completely born out of you know breitbart and this kid back in 2009 yeah so it looks like a bizarro adam devine oh like one other thing i will add is so the prior to this, he like he always tries to act like, you know, I brought down the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:41:29 I brought down a part of the New York Times. He brought down a channel manager at the New York Times who run the YouTube channel. Right. Like he got like a sexy woman to talk to, like this guy who worked for the New York Times YouTube channel. And like this is the kind of dude when you watch the video, like you can tell he's just kind of lying to impress this woman right and the guy who uploads videos for the new york times yeah he doesn't make the content produce the videos they're just like hey nick uh do the thumbnail and then this is the title and do the tags right and so he'll he'll upload it and so he does has nothing to do with the content he just manages it right so this woman like infiltrates his life or
Starting point is 00:42:03 whatever right and just asks him him a bunch of leading questions. In one of their videos, I think she actually says a line. It was like, you'll promise me you'll bring him down, right? Talking about Trump. And he's like, oh, yeah. But this guy doesn't have the power to do that. He doesn't have the power to do shit. And then also he was like, yeah, when the James Comey got fired, I almost had to recuse myself from uploading YouTube videos.
Starting point is 00:42:22 And she's like, why? And he says, oh james comey's my godfather and like in their video they really tried to act like this kid like he has nothing to do with james comey but in these project veritas videos they present it as truth and it really does get people fired up thinking that the new york times is somehow in cahoots with james comey like come on right and it was clearly just a dude who, you know, was very susceptible to a young woman and, you know, like didn't get a lot of like attractive young women talking to him. And so like she was able to lead him into like whatever she wanted him to say, he would say. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:42:58 And then when it came out, the New York Times, they had to fire him. And they were like, first of all, this guy has nothing to do with how we make the videos. He's not a producer. He's not a writer or editor or anything he just manages channel manager yeah so hey i'm just glad that james o'keefe as much as you like say well we're trending now you're trending because you took the biggest l of the year in journalism right if you want to call it journalism this is a wackish james bond that's who he is. But this is – like a video will come out of this that will be carefully edited by James O'Keefe to make it seem like they actually caught the Washington Post doing something, I'm sure, and it will go viral on Drudge. He tried to fundraise off this yesterday, I think. He sent a letter out saying, oh, I was ambushed by Washington Post reporters because they – like one of our operatives' cover was blown.
Starting point is 00:43:41 by Washington Post reporters, because one of our operatives' cover was blown. He's like, but it's fine, because we got our story on them coming soon, which will probably be a pretty big nothing, nothing burger. All right, we're going to go to a quick break, and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist
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Starting point is 00:47:50 And we're back. So we're not going to get to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau because we're running out of time. But that is a crazy story that people should check in on. We'll do a whole check in on Trump world tomorrow. But we are going to talk about the number one movie at the box office this past weekend was a Disney movie named Coco, which I guess we can mention. Speaking of Disney movies, was it Eric Trump's defense of his father? Yes. So so what his dad called Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas.
Starting point is 00:48:29 He referred to Elizabeth Warren. While he's honoring the three Navajos who helped the fucking Marines create the secret code to use during World War II, he then uses that to somehow be like, you know we've got this representative uh who's like who's been here a long time they call her pocahontas ha ha ha yo these dudes were not laughing the room went so quiet dude it's so quiet because first of all what the fuck are you doing these are native american soldiers who put their life on the line for a country who has mistreated them since time immemorial uh and also on top of that in front of a fucking portrait of andrew jackson like there is no i there's no consideration for history or context with this
Starting point is 00:49:11 person and then eric trump came out uh the one who snl makes into somebody who like follows any shiny thing that passes by him uh he uh he came out and said it's's crazy that ABC is getting so mad at my dad about calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas when ABC is owned by Disney and they had a movie called Pocahontas. Yeah. Which is just – I'm sorry. How does that – can you walk me through that? It's an amazing leap of logic.
Starting point is 00:49:40 So I did want to speak – which is all to say – Let me just give some context. the logic but so i did want to speak which is all to say uh let me just give some context and the thing with andrew jackson for people who aren't uh u.s history buffs he was the architect of the trail of tears yeah okay like this is if there was like a super villain you want to put in front of like native american people it would have been andrew jackson and so that to add insult to that injury is just wild so if you watch the clip though it's so clear that he knows what he's saying is offensive in real time because he makes it's so clear that he knows what he's saying is offensive in real time because he makes the joke and then immediately, like, and now he's just
Starting point is 00:50:09 like, but you're a good guy. And he pulls him in. He's like, ah, but not you. But yeah, I think this is all part of his decision to, this is like troll Elizabeth Warren week because she is the person who created the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which he is trying to dismantle but we will talk about that at a later date but uh so people are flipping out about uh the number one movie at the box office coco uh which is a pixar movie uh so edgar you
Starting point is 00:50:39 know hold your tongue oh i'm i've already been looking at my phone being like fuck this conversation i'm gonna fucking check down you're all mad you thought coco was about like a black woman oh i was like a black woman with an afro and coconut oil and not coco brown but so apparently uh people people are mad because there is a short at the beginning of this pixar movie uh that is incredibly long and we actually have our super producer, Nick Stumpf, who, Nick,
Starting point is 00:51:09 you, you brought your daughters to Coco over the weekend. I did. And wow. That tone already. Yeah. You should see his face. He is seething.
Starting point is 00:51:19 He just broke an orange in his hand. I hear, I hear nothing but good things about Coco, the movie, but your daughter walked out, right? Yeah, I didn't get to see all of Coco because there was an involuntary Frozen movie before the film, which exhausted the precious minutes of my daughter's attention span. And so we didn't get all the way through Coco, unfortunately. I liked what I saw of it.
Starting point is 00:51:44 Right. He's so mad. The short film beforehand. Because I think there's been quite a few Pixar movies that start out with a short film. I think most do, right? Yeah, I think it's a tradition. And they usually are maybe like two to five minutes. Yeah, but they've been getting longer and longer as time has progressed. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:02 Yeah, but they've been getting longer and longer as time has progressed. Right. I think Inside Out had a Moana sort of preview thing. Oh, man, I hated that one. Yeah, it was longish. We know you hate every Pixar movie. The volcanoes, right? The volcanoes singing to each other. Nick, how long was this one?
Starting point is 00:52:20 It seemed like forever. I think it was 24 minutes, 21 minutes. Sorry, 21 minutes, which is an eternity for something you're not in the mood for. Right, and for children whose attention span is not very long. You can't get children to sit still for literally anything. So asking them to sit still for one movie and then sit still for a second movie, like after the first one ends. And also, so I have a problem with Olaf, you guys.
Starting point is 00:52:51 Don't even get me started on Olaf from Frozen. Because isn't the movie about Olaf from Frozen? Yeah. Featuring the most irritating character from the most irritating movie. That's such a weird choice. Right. Featuring the most irritating character from the most irritating movie. That's such a weird choice. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:04 So Frozen is a huge movie because Disney accidentally made a movie about two female protagonists. And they were like, oh, shit, this isn't the worst thing in the world. People are super into this. But they thought that it was a really big mistake to have two female protagonists and so when the frozen preview first came out it was the snowman and the reindeer like just like fogging around on a frozen pond like just it was the preview for the actual movie frozen was essentially like a short about olaf they were like man this snowman character is clearly the best and kids are going to love him. But it's like the Jar Jar Binks of the Disney universe.
Starting point is 00:53:50 Wow. Essentially. Yeah. Feels like it was created by the same mind. Right. But yeah, so just not a great movie. Not a great movie. And just also like, you know, fighting against seeing Frozen is something that i've i've been trying to very hard to do since my kids were born i was i knew it was coming but i was like i'm gonna fight this
Starting point is 00:54:09 because i'm gonna fight you know it was eventually they're gonna see it and they're gonna be talking about elsa and stuff and sure enough that that did eventually happen but i did a pretty good job holding the line but like when you go to a movie that's not frozen and then yet there you are watching frozen it's doubly irritating so irritating yeah featuring the most annoying and unimaginative character from i felt like what's interesting too because i i started picking up on this because a couple of my friends who have young kids were on twitter saying the same thing it's like hey just a heads up yeah if you're going to see coco just know that you're going to sit through a 20 minute like laughable fucking thing before you actually get to the movie you wanted to see and like my kid doesn't even is confused now because he thinks
Starting point is 00:54:52 we're watching frozen yeah and not or yeah like yeah my daughter was like okay great i saw my movie it's like you know beginning middle and end then she's like got up and started tearing around the theater i was like okay well i guess that's it for us it's like all right yeah the fact that there's like end credits like signals to the kid, okay, movie over. I think y'all got duped by Disney. That's what I think. Here's what it is. Coco's a trash movie.
Starting point is 00:55:14 But Disney knew it was a trash movie. So they were just like... Have you seen Coco? Coco's at 80 on Metacritic. It's one of the better reviewed movies of the year. Listen, this is from the same critics who love that one movie where they use rabbits and alligators to talk about racism. What was that movie? Oh, Zootopia?
Starting point is 00:55:33 Yeah. Yeah. That was an important film. I think they put that Olaf movie in front of Coco because, look, we got a bad movie. Let's make a worse movie. And everyone's going to be like, yo, that Coco movie was so great because it wasn't that Olaf movie in front of Coco because, look, we got a bad movie. Let's make a worse movie. And everyone's going to be like, yo, that Coco movie was so great because it wasn't that Olaf movie. Because it was next to the Olaf movie. Oh, like whoever's president next after Trump.
Starting point is 00:55:53 Oh, he's going to be. Fucking God. He's going to be goat. On Reddit, a person who works at a movie theater was like, yeah, I had about 70 confused customers who thought they were in the wrong theater since disney just decided to start their movie with a completely different movie um but they've always done this though yeah it's just i think i think once it got to like minute 18 they were like yo this is like the fourth we're watching a different movie like the fourth musical number happens you're like am i just watching yeah they're literally genuinely myself four different songs in this short.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I like the other thing that in theaters in Mexico, there were so many complaints from patrons that they just removed the short altogether. It was just people were like, I didn't come for this. Yeah, it's also irritating because it was like, Coco, say what you will about it, Edgar. Who hasn't seen it? It's kind of a new thing.
Starting point is 00:56:43 They go back and forth between English and Spanish with with no subtitles and like i was watching it in a in like a bilingual crowd because like there was jokes just fully in spanish like somebody says no munchies at some point and then people and people laugh yeah it was pretty cool you know there's a lot of things that i thought were pretty cool about it um but then to have this like mandatory like frozen experience before it's just like can't you it's like you can't have anything. If anything, put it at the end or something. Yeah, right. Or just don't.
Starting point is 00:57:09 Right. I mean, I don't know. That's how I feel about that short dude from the Hobbit movies being in Black Panther. Andy Serkis? No, no, no. The short dude who plays the Hobbit. What's his name? He's also in the British office.
Starting point is 00:57:23 Oh, Tim from the office. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's in Black Panther, and I feel like that's our Olaf. Like, we have to sit and watch this nigga in Black Panther when we can't just have that movie ourselves. So I understand your point. Yeah, I think that's exactly what you're saying. I think you've turned a clear connection. Martin Freeman.
Starting point is 00:57:39 Martin Freeman, yeah. It's like salient solution. He's the Hobbit, right? I'm not crazy. He's the Hobbit. He's Bilbo, isn't he? Yeah, he, I think, plays Bilbo. He's the Hobbit, right? I'm not crazy. He's the Hobbit. He's Bilbo, isn't he? Yeah, he, I think, plays Bilbo. Who's the Hobbit?
Starting point is 00:57:48 The Hobbit? There's no character named The Hobbit. Then why is it called The Hobbit? Yo, man, did you see the fucking movie? You're like, hey, man, which one? The Hobbit. Also, he The Hobbit? So none of them is the Lord of the Rings?
Starting point is 00:58:03 What's going on? Hey, I didn't see Jesus. I didn't see Jesus. I didn't see Michael of them was the Lord of the Rings? What's going on? Hey, I didn't see Jesus. I didn't see Jesus. I didn't see Michael Jordan, the true Lord of the Rings. No, I guess because the other thing is this short was supposed to be like a TV movie. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:15 That they were just like, ah, fuck it, we'll just throw it into this movie. They were going to make it a holiday special and they were like, no, this movie's majesty needs to be captured on the big screen. Right. Or ABC was just backing out.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Or do you think it was a way to temper audiences who may have been reluctant to take their children to a so Latin-based culture film that it's like, hey, let's soften them up with a little snow. Right. Snow's white. Our audience is white. Right. To preempt the angry emails. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:58:43 They're like, well, you got a little bit of white culture i mean that's totally in keeping with what they did with frozen because yeah they like the one groundbreaking thing about frozen is that it had two female leads i think that's what like drove its success but they thought they had to pretend that it was about a fucking magical talking snowman because right that's what i thought it was about right wait is that how it's marketed yeah the the first preview was the a reindeer and olaf like just fucking around on a on a frozen lake and it was like a goofy like oh wow like buddy yeah so see it's confusing because if that's what they were trying to do then you'd think that they'd advertise it like come see coco and also featuring this great olaf from a short right frozen right they just sort of blindside you with it well i'm gonna see because it's it's interesting like it moana got pretty decent uh acceptance from like pacific islander community
Starting point is 00:59:34 yeah and coco too seems to have a lot of uh people excited too oh they love it yeah yeah who aren't offended i mean i think like anything it's not perfect but even to your point like right maybe they're doing it to pander to an audience. Even if they're pandering, you're making the product. So I don't know. It's hard sometimes to decide if the decision is like a nefarious decision to just exploit like a Spanish-speaking audience. Listen, I'm okay with it once they start pandering to us. But we haven't gotten our Pixar movie yet.
Starting point is 01:00:02 So I'm waiting. You know, they got the Pacific Islanders, got the Hispanic peopleic people what was the one though it wasn't a pixar movie it was princess and the frog oh but so you want to make that you want to step to the cg i want the pixar movie yeah and the hair better look good they're already making another incredibles come on well here i mean look maybe we can uh let's work on a script yeah let's work on the script and then we're gonna be a vacancy in the uh creative officer department at pixar yeah right Well, here, I mean, look, maybe we can, let's work on a script. Yeah, let's work on a script. And then we're going to be a vacancy in the creative officer department at Pixar. Yeah, right, exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Yeah, there is. All right, so, like, hey, let's get you in there. Listen, I already pitched you guys my idea. He has a very good day, and at the end he gets shot by a cop. Okay, well. I'm laughing already. And Edgar has been here for two hours now in our office and has not sexually harassed anyone the whole time give him the job yeah give him the job boingo boingo edgar where can people follow you you can follow me on instagram at awful gram on twitter at edgar mom was here and that's m-o-m-p-l-a-i-s-i-r
Starting point is 01:01:01 uh you can check me out at ucb. I'm performing pretty much every day, every week. UCB in Los Angeles. In Los Angeles. But, I mean, hey, in June, you can check me out there in New York. Okay. What are you doing? DCM. The Del Close Marathon for the uninitiated.
Starting point is 01:01:16 Miles, where can people follow you? Well, you can follow me into an office with Edgar because we're about to work on this killer treatment for the new Pixar film for the culture. But if you're on looking for me on social media, Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Yeah. And as we've learned in today's show, you just need to dress up like a telephone repairman and you can get in there to drop the script off anywhere. Exactly. Hi, I'm here to pitch the new Pixar film. And you can follow me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. And you can follow us at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page that is The Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:01:52 You can follow us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. And we have a page on the World Wide Web at DailyZeitgeist.com where we put up episodes of the show along with footnotes. Footnotes. Where you can see sources that we've used for today's episode and facts that back up our shit. Because we are more real journalists than James O'Keefe. Will there be a source for my Will Smith Cuban claim? Yes, there will be. There will be.
Starting point is 01:02:25 We'll just link to your Twitter. Right. We're realer journalists than James O'Keefe, which means we're not real journalists at all. We're a step above finers. Right. All right. And we're going to try something out where we go out on new music to introduce you guys to. Miles has great taste in music.
Starting point is 01:02:46 He's always ahead of the curve. But today we wanted to go out on a song that has been recommended by Edgar, actually. He said that that Winchester Cathedral song by the New Vaudeville Band is better than Good Vibrations and Eleanor Rigby. I stand by it. So we are going to ride out on that. Once again, it is Winchester Cathedral by the New Vaudeville Band. And
Starting point is 01:03:10 yeah, give it a listen. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Thank you. ¶¶ Winchester Cathedral You're bringing me down You stood and you watched I My baby let down You could have done something But you didn't try You didn't do nothing
Starting point is 01:04:28 You let her walk by Now everyone knows Just how much I needed that gal She wouldn't have gone far away If only you'd started ringing your bell Winchester Cathedral You're bringing me down You stood and you watched as
Starting point is 01:05:01 My baby left town. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,
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