The Daily Zeitgeist - Depp Trial = Gamergate 2.0? A Bill That … HELPS?!?! 05.25.22

Episode Date: May 25, 2022

In episode 1255, Jack and Miles are joined by writer and comedian Charla Lauriston to discuss… The Significance of The Johnny Depp Vs. Amber Heard Media Barrage, Oh Cool a Bill That Seems Like It Will Make Things Better... and more! The Significance of The Johnny Depp Vs. Amber Heard Media Barrage Oh Cool a Bill That Seems Like It Will Make Things Better LISTEN: Luv Like by Nia ArchivesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hold on, hold on, hold on. Is that a real day? Is that real? There's an absurd day for everything. Oh yeah, I mean, if we lobbied hard enough, I mean, we could get the Pipe Jerry or Jerry Pipe day for that episode of Grand Crew.

My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Because the pod brings you Jack. That is courtesy of Eric Keller, who, actually, that's not courtesy of him. I just did that because I wanted to get a Blues Traveler one in because Eric Keller let me know, after listening to today's pod, I had to wonder if you fellas knew Blues Traveler one in because Eric Keller let me know, after listening to today's pod, I had to wonder if you fellas knew Blues

Traveler and Bruce Willis had a collaboration on one of their albums. Oh, shit. Which I think is called Free Willis or Free... I don't know. I did not know. You were right to wonder. We did not know that. Hell no. But that makes

sense because Bruce Will willis i think just had an instant pang of jealousy when he heard a blues-ish song go mainstream number one i think he wasn't having that shit he's like i gotta go they need some bruno anyways uh i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Miles Gray, a.k.a. Juneteenth, Juneteenth, Juneteenth, Juneteenth. Walmart really knows now. It's the freedom for me. What the fuck were those dumbass items that Walmart paraded out this week?

It's the freedom for me. Okay. Very interesting. I was, again, the moments where I could be like, can I be in the brainstorming session of some of these companies? Really? Somebody needs to make a documentary about. Just keep trying. Whoever's out there trying to make a documentary about just they just keep trying whoever's out there trying to make a documentary like you know we got that leak of the pepsi logo design but there's so many bad marketing decisions

oh yeah that happen or like the the brainstorm behind the imagine video could you imagine if somebody had captured that i like to see the crash and burn of these marketing i do they're fun but like i want to see i want to see their conversation where it leads to it yeah the room where it's look jack here's the thing i think most especially people of color have been in this situation if they've ever worked anywhere that's predominantly white there'll be a bad idea in the room and you're the only one looking around be like oh fuck oh no oh no oh no and then they go miles what do you think about that and you're fucked because you just started there and you're like uh i mean are there any other ideas and he's like but it's not offensive right i'm like well i just look i'm 25 and i just started

working here i don't know if the best person asked great print it it's always just like you need one person's cosign for any terrible mistake and I think it's just yeah that felt like a personal attack because I do say great print it after every time we just make a decision on our creative team you mean just stop this recording of the audio print it

great print it anyways Miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a hilarious comedian director and writer who you know from the hilarious NBC sitcom Grand Crew. The last OG ghosted People of Earth Hoops from her comedy album Karate. It's been way too damn long. It's Sharla Lauriston! What up, what up? It's Sharla. i'm here i'm british now i've been in the uk for like 20 years now

i'm here i'm excited i haven't seen you guys in so long british columbia i moved to vancouver nuts yeah yeah oh my favorite town my favorite town yeah oh man the zeit gang is strong up there. We owe you a live show in Vancouver. You guys for sure should do it. Like I said, I can't keep telling people how much I love it up there. I love it.

There's a good comedy scene here. There's a pretty good little indie comedy scene out here. I like it. Yeah, we've had a few BC comedians on before. Oh, nice. I still don't know anybody. I've still been here through the pandemic. I think I know two people. You haven't

excavated the indie comedy scene of your local community that you just moved to during the pandemic? Come on, Charlotte. I've been very slow and lackadaisical about it. I mean, that sounds like a lot of work to me, but I'm an introvert. Are you missing anything from California while you've been in?

Everything. Sunshine, number one. Isn't it starting to change a little bit? Just now. It just started. It just started. This was the first good weekend or the first sunny weekend we've had all year so far. Okay.

It's just gray and 40s, 50s you know how there's june gloom in in la it's like that but for for six months so but the summer here i actually think you know i'll say this on i'll say this live on air but like i actually think vancouver is like a secret hot spot for the summer like people are sleeping on it i was just like if this is a covid hotspot or what are we talking about absolutely 100 if you want beautiful hiking beautiful mountains like beaches lakes like there's an island we just went to the island over the weekend for victoria day there's different holidays yeah we went over to victoria island it was absolutely stunning i went to bowen island

for a yoga retreat i've just been living my best like white woman life like yoga life like island life like i'm i'm living my best life you got all white linen all white linen all white people no it's not it's not diverse that is that's also what i miss from LA is some POC. It's been great. Sure. Yeah. I have to think that at least over half of our American listeners are like, damn, she did it right. Hearing that you moved to Vancouver during the pandemic.

Yeah. The last time you were on, miles was would have been very jealous now i'm like so like what do you need to get citizenship up there and like what is what's that but congratulations thank you and we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first a couple of things we're talking about we are gonna try and wade into the uh johnny depp versus amber heard trial more more so the media barrage and just like the significance of how much attention how much of the national shared consciousness it is taking up we're going to talk about a bill that seems like it might i think i think this is a typo miles it says it might make things better did you fuck up there what what happened a build really okay

all right we'll talk about it it might work it might work uh all of that plenty more but first charlotte we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history oh man this is embarrassing but right now i'm watching own oprahfrey networks, put a ring on it, but it's not in Canada. So I have to like, I did like a long Google search of trying to find it just on the internet and I eventually found it. So thanks internet. Yeah.

How to watch, put a ring on it is my Google search. How to watch, put a ring on it in Canada is my last search. Were there watch Put a Ring on It in Canada is my last search. Were there any like deep textual analyses? Like how to watch Put a Ring on It? How to situate yourself ontologically? I actually found a bunch of YouTube channels that recap the show and talk about the relationships. So it's like a therapist that sits down with three relationships, three couples who are on the brink

and whether they're gonna walk away or put a ring on it and like the whole show just watches them open up their relationship and date other people so it's amazing and it's actually a really good show like people are actually having real breakthroughs but i'm kind of a reality junkie so this is this is me in a nutshell i'll do anything to watch so this is like so basically the ultimatum ripped this show off it did that's exactly what happened yes because this show is in its like third season or something so this is the uh living single to friends that's exactly what it is i think we've seen this before i haven't watched the ultimatum, but I'll be able to tell you next time I'm on it. Well, I mean, I've seen it twice, but the way you're describing it sounds exactly the same premise.

They're couples who are on the brink of having to either get married or explore whether or not this person is right for them. They facilitate that by having them go on dates and destabilizing things just to figure out at the end if they're right for each other. The way the ultimatum does it is reckless. You know what? I'm lying because I'm a reality junkie. I've definitely watched the ultimatum. It was just so boring I forgot. This seems similar to the

country music network, Shit or Get Off the Pot. I wonder if there's any influence there. It's called shit or get. Shit or get. Wait, are you not just using a VPN, though? My VPN didn't work. I tried to use my VPN to use my Hulu to do my HBO Max.

It didn't work. I think they're on to us. I think they're on to us. I think they're on to us. It literally shows up and it says you're not in the country. As a VPN hooligan, sometimes some of the streaming services, they catch on to specific server locations

that you pick. Okay. So if you're in a larger city, like some of them, they're like, don't pick New York because there's a lot of VPN traffic going through those servers and it's easier for Netflix to to be like that's the one stop it versus just shift over to new jersey okay and then suddenly and if you look there's a lot of articles where

people talk about which vpn server locations you need to use to be able to watch your streaming without having to do like the one and a half speed weird youtube riffs that people end up okay thank you everything's legal in jersey is that a line from um hamilton i like to quote hamilton i feel like it makes me seem cool but what do you guys think is that an actual line i think so yeah they because they keep like going over there to duel he sends his son over there to like get shot then he goes over and gets definitely listened to it very recently. How often are you listening to it? I haven't listened to it in two years, but when I

was listening to it, I was listening to it too much. Right. I remember you tweeted a couple weeks ago, you said, while you guys are too busy with Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers, I'm sitting with a real classic. I'm discovering new things.

Uh-oh, Kendrick wasn't the only one in the lab. The only word, Smith. So was Lin-Manuel on this one. I liked his character work on The Heart Part 5, but could he have possibly inhabited the role of a founding father? Would it have killed him? Am I right over here, folks? That sounds like a Gutfeld monologue joke or something.

By the way, Gutfeld, still a show, I believe. Yeah. No, it's killing. It's like killing it. It's very popular. Ratings-wise, not humor or as a product for people to consume. It's just many people watch it. I don't know.

The jokes are pretty sharp. They're, they're great. Over there. Gut felled. Sharp. Tip of a clan. Exclamation point.

I just have to look at that film. Yeah. What is something you think is overrated? What do I think is overrated? Real talk. You know what? Like. Work. I think work is overrated? Real talk. You know what? Like, work. I think work is overrated. Real talk.

Go on. we're feeling about it just to continue to go to work and you know what sometimes i'm just like you know what fuck work yo like we need to take care of ourselves first so so maybe that that's off the top yeah yeah i mean that's it's how we're raised in america it is one mode work if i take more than a week of vacation my brain starts starts attacking itself. Yeah. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. I took a break. I've been taking a break for quite some time. And there's all this shame. You feel ashamed of yourself.

You're just like, am I even worth it? Yeah. And you're like, get that damn boot out your mouth. Get that fucking boot out your mouth. Yeah. It's nuts. We've just been raised with that reflex to be like if you do anything less than back-breaking work 48 hours a day you are nothing piece of shit it's not it's not good it's not a

good way to think i mean i have guilt like that with like immigrant parents black grandparents like just thinking of how hard people's lives were from people i descend from and I'm like I'm a fucking comedian podcaster I'm like am I working and like we're some of the hardest working I feel like uh hustlers like people hustling to make a living out of this industry that just be like you know we don't even want you you know so it's just like we're working really hard just to make something but yeah this year this year I was like yo work is not it when did you would so did you would you say you just this year turned a corner where you you you yelled at the shitty shift manager in your brain and you're like man shut the fuck up i'm gonna take a break when i

want to i love that metaphor i love i love that like i i feel like it happened at the end of 2019 at the end of 2019 i was just absolutely of 2019, I was just absolutely burned out. Like just, just could not deal with another thing, but there's all these things going on in your head. Like if I stopped working, am I even alive? Am I real? Like, what do I, what does it mean? You know, like it just, I just,

and it also just feels like, especially with what we do, like if you take a break, then do you disappear? Like, will people remember me? You know, am I relevant anymore? And I'm glad to report that, like, I've been real quiet for the last, I would say, two years. And no one's forgotten me. There's been no catastrophic end to my career. If anything, I feel a lot better.

And I'm coming back with a different relationship to work. One that puts me at the center that values me and my mental health and my well-being before I guess other people. Straight up. That's exactly. I love that. Yeah. Well, I took two weeks off recently for the first time i think in my since my honeymoon maybe and my just like my parents reaction was like how wow how are you gonna huh you can do that so like are you bringing your computer down to guatemala or it's just i'm like okay I know now I'm starting to like see the the mask uh see like who who the shift manager was uh modeled after absolutely yeah right absolutely and you can and you can do that that's right you're allowed to do that absolutely not just my parents like a

lot of people like a lot of yeah people I know who are just like friends you know yeah we're just so inundated and we've been inoculated with these shit values of like just a hustling and shit we're only now like beginning to have like real pushback like public or people like that shit is dumb and toxic and doesn't make sense and it's actually the worst way to like prioritize how you experience your physical life like putting that work shit rather than being like how do i maintain like my semblance of peace or happiness first and then try to do it but we don't always have the you know luxury or ability to even take time off and that's why i think it's important hopefully more people are

radicalized by that realization and being like wait hold up this is such a fucked up deal absolutely we need we need a bet we need a better way to do this absolutely because not like the fucking earth stops spinning because somebody fucking took parental leave you know what i mean but they have everybody thinking that's how this shit works like it's this fucking perpetual motion machine it's like if one person stops hustling, we'll all die. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and find out what you think is underrated and get into the

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the moment and you enjoy your time and you come back refreshed and rejuvenated and ready. Yeah. I just realized something I was doing was like, so during the week, during the work week, I like wake up and meditate and try and meditate twice a day, like get myself, you know, in the most healthy place I can. But on the weekends, like, I just like, don't do that. i'm like not valuing the my day of rest as like an important day where i need to like be taking care of myself and you know go proactively you know just like putting myself in the best position to like have a have a good day i'm just like that all right my kids fucking woke me up. I guess I could go downstairs and dump cereal in front of them and just stand there

itching my ass. I was just going to ask, as a parent on the weekends, do you even get that time? What do you even have to do to get that time? Yeah, you just need a schedule. I'm fortunate to have my wife, who we can

schedule time out so nice yeah so she could take a break you could take a break i mean i really do feel that like on the weekend for whatever reason like i'm like like you jack i'm much more mindful about where my thoughts are and like how i'm setting myself up in the morning but then like a weekend hits and I'm like, it's like a lazy Tuesday. Yeah. Right. I don't know, man.

Fuck it. Like just, this shit could go all wrong. Is there still a cupcake in the cupboard? Shit, man. I'm just going to eat whatever cupcakes are left over. And it's not even like this idea to like,

oh, you need to go on a vacation or whatever. Like try a form of disconnecting that you never have before. And I think that's kind of a real big point, Charlotte, that you're making, right? Is like, can you, I get like, if you have other duties and things like that, you can't completely go off the grid, but are you able to, when you have a day off, not look at your phone, just take some time to really just experience, like just kind of sit with yourself or go out and experience nature or just do something like that that isn't sort of

like tangentially tied to what you normally do and you will feel a really big difference i mean there was a time like two weeks ago i forgot my phone at home when we we went out to go somewhere and i was like shit i've got my fucking phone and we all and i was like i was like should i turn around and party was like man fuck it like this is good just fucking exist and like if anyone really needs to get a hold of you they know how to get a hold of you i was like i was with her majesty so it wasn't that big of a deal but it really was at the end i was like holy shit while she was using her phone i just kind of sat looking arounded her what she was looking at on her phone. Yeah, I'm like, hey, no fair.

Let me use it a little bit too. All right, you had it for two minutes. Now let me get in on that. I felt like the person that like, you know, five years ago, I'm like, look at this weird dude. There was no phone, like looking around at things in a restaurant. Asshole. Yeah, yeah. Who was very like you are yeah yeah i reminded myself i'm like oh shit like usually sitting i usually sit with like the fear of like not being occupied with something like even my phone or a distraction

and to not do that and subjecting myself to like hours of it was fun i mean not fun i was just like oh that wasn't bad and actually i've had a different experience than i normally do it's crazy that it's weird now and just in our lifetime too like when we were kids like we didn't even have phones and now like they're things that we absolutely feel weird if we're not on constantly what a life what a life we What a life we've led. We had a guest on Monday, Margaret Kiljoy, who said something that's really sat with me since she was on,

which is she talks about how much her world is screen-based. Yeah. Whether she's writing or having a podcast or research or do these other things that she really has things that are not screen-based activities

that are also take attention and aren't just literally like, I look out a window for 45 minutes. It's i do other shit with my hands that doesn't involve a screen and i really kind of try i was really trying to lean into that the last couple days and it's been beneficial actually to like kind of prioritize i'm like now i need something that doesn't involve a screen like you know in the old even fucking reading a book is fine yeah but just don't be on the fucking screen and that it's a subtle thing i didn't realize i actually have this uh really good nature youtube video i'm gonna forward to you but just like makes you feel like you're

just so unplugged and if you put headphones on that are noise canceling it's recorded binaural audio like you feel like you are in the everglades my my wife and i last night were watching like videos of star finches is is that the like bird that's incredibly populous in europe like the birds that do like the murmurations that are starlings starlings yeah yeah murmurations of star yeah murmurations of starlings on our phone. We're like, this is it, man. We're just getting back to basics. Oh, shit. Look at that murmuration.

How many birds do you think that is? Yeah. They're all vibing as one. Do you have anything, Moff? Interrupt? Charlotte asked, if you have anything that allows you to unplug, and then i interrupted oh have you found anything youtube nature video yeah i mean i play my instruments more i mean i've been a musician my whole life and a lot of time i don't i didn't have time to like just play for fun so now like i just rather than making beats on a computer or

something i just turn the amp up and i just kind of play and I just kind of vibe out with that, that or reading or riding my bike. I mean, I just really I really like riding my bike since I was a kid. So I just like mob around fucking neighborhood and shit. And I just kind of listen to music. And it's nice to just feel the sensation of being present in my physical body and not being in my fucking thoughts all the time. And I ride pegs when Miles is riding around on his bike. I go handlebars. And even though I tell you, you got to wear a helmet because your wife is like, make sure he wears a helmet.

I'm like, I tell him, but he doesn't listen. He says it doesn't look cool. Yeah. I like take it off like an inch above my head. You're trying to be a rebel rebel so you undo the chin strap. And you're like, well, whatever. It looks more low-key like this. All right. Charlotte, has this story reached you up in the outer reaches of North America and Canada?

Has the Johnny Depp vs. Amber Heard trial dominated? You heard of this? Absolutely. Yeah. in Canada has the Johnny Depp versus Amber Heard trial. You heard of this? Dominated. Yeah. So I've wanted to talk about this because our show is, you know, one of our goals is to map the zeitgeist, and this has been absolutely everywhere. And there's a journalist named Natalie Scher,

and she has kind of been following the case throughout and like tweeting about it. And then she just dropped an article on New Republic. I really like her. I trust her judgment. And her thing from the start has been like, you know, Amber Heard's stories like are pretty like full of holes. And there's like a lot of kind of contradictory evidence. So she's like, I would not that. So the main point of the article is like that there's a lot of think pieces being like, this is, you know, if you're on the left, you are team heard. If you're on the right,

like you're team Johnny Depp. and her kind of point is actually they're both wrong the case like neither illustrates society's eagerness to denigrate and victimize uh denigrate victim victimized women or the opposite the you know it doesn't show that there is like a pervasive misandrist witch hunt out there but i don't know so like the the thing that i feel like her account leaves out is just she she kind of treats it as like a tawdry celebrity story that's like a cure a passing curiosity but like i've not seen a story take over as much as this one has. Like maybe, I don't know.

It's a, it's like the new fucking OJ trial. Like people are just breathlessly like reporting everything that happens in the courtroom. And I just, I, I think that like, that is the story here actually is like how,

think that like that is the story here actually is like how i don't know if it is the result of a sort of nascently misogynistic culture just like waiting for the right case where they can make their point that like well you can't believe all women because look, she's lying. Or if that's being pushed by industry, people who have stuff riding on Johnny Depp's continued career. But one way or another, it does feel like it's a bigger deal than just a tawdry news story that's passing. It feels like Gamergate to me. Gamergate is not... The point of gamergate was not like well you know there's corruption in game development right and like to go in and like analyze that it's you know i i think her main point that she's

making is like don't stake the me too movement like the integrity of the me too movement on like the i believe amber heard movement right but i think that's fine but like overall her character characterization of the case and its popularity i think is a little dismissive and like oh i mean it doesn't take into account what the what the chilling effect is for people who are victims. Yeah. Right. You know, like because what we're doing is on TikTok, we're showing even younger people. It's not just adults who are engaging with this content. It's younger people, too, who are looking at a thing where if you just look at it at the situation on social media, you think if you speak to support Amber Heard or question Johnny Depp, then you're just going to get flamed by a ton of people. And then gives this idea is like, is that the right side?

If you're not thinking about it critically on another, you just get an example of like, well, these people are also clearly like if you look at the case that Johnny Depp had against the son in the UK, like the court found 12 of the 14 allegations like to to rise to a civil standard like that. They wasn't that it wasn't hearsay. And there's a complete like a lot of people are treating this case like as if Johnny Depp is going to go to jail if he loses this trial. Depp is going to go to jail if he loses this trial. When other observers have pointed out it, this was a weird move for him. And almost seems like he knew what would happen by by taking like by taking on this case or pursuing this case, which is, you know what? If I go out here, you're going to have to cop to a lot of shit that you did. And at the end of the day, they're going gonna think you look way worse than even i do even with all the stuff they're gonna hear about me because this plenty a lot of awful shit

has come out about johnny depp in the course of this trial but it's just been kind of like we'll keep the focus there and this feels like a like a very odd like tactic to just sort of kind of like deepen the pain of like just a toxic relationship relationship. Now watch me take you to court and make this completely miserable for everybody. Damn. Miles, you sound like a lawyer talking about this case. Hearsay, rise to civil standards, shit. I didn't know. Look, you know why, though?

Because if I look at it like anybody else, I was confused as fuck as to what the fuck was going on. Part of me said, damn, these people got so much energy for Johnny Depp. Maybe something's going on. And I was like, fuck it. It might not be worth it for me to really examine what's going on here. But I think that's most people's response because one side is so vocal that it's just kind of like, oh, shit. I don't know what to say.

But this is really significant i mean you look at the amount of people who have been making money on youtube views off of this like there's a whole industry now like a cottage industry about amplifying like pro-dep anti-herd messaging on social media too like there's a on vice they did a interview with like some kid who had a pro-def youtube channel he had 349 subscribers like before the trial this kid has 12 000 now and he's 15 just putting together super cuts of like ownage montages of amber heard and he's like he's like yeah i have time because i'm homeschooled and you just kind of see like there's there's an appeal or there's an inroad for someone to benefit, even if they realize like what they're perpetuating or not. But it's also just you see how how much opportunity this is presented, whether it's to like channels that are going to do round the clock coverage or clickbait for websites. It's clear that like this, the audience interaction with it too is also like

feeding the media and like this really bizarre feedback loop as well and i'm like and it had me again feeling like what's going on like and am i is does this saturation mean something i haven't been paying that much attention to it because of exactly what miles, that it just feels like a toxic relationship on the stand and for public opinion to, I guess, contribute to this toxic relationship. But I feel like there's nothing, I feel like it being attached to Me Too is unfortunate because I feel like it has nothing to do with Me Too. And I feel like it's, it's unfair for every single celebrity tat, you know, situation to be raised to the level of, I guess, justifying me too, or not. So, I mean, I think it's, I think it's unfortunate also because I think, I think celebrities, you know, I don don't know there seems to be like some mental

illness stuff going on with this too just like the level of violence and the level of toxicity between the two of them the drug use all the stuff that's going on and it's all just for public consumption and we're just watching it and taking sides but it's like these are two human beings who clearly are not all together and their shit's out for everybody to judge. And it's allowed for a lot of in general

because of Amber Heard isn't the perfect victim. Therefore, she is not a victim. Therefore, she in fact is the actual abuser. Sort of logic is what you're seeing played out. And we see this shit all the time.

This there, there's seldom a perfect abuser. If you're in a relationship or any kind of you're, you're fighting against something at a certain point, you push back because that's your human nature of being in a situation like this. And you see this all the time, even with like police violence, right? The police kill somebody and then they're like, well, you know, they were smoking weed. Yeah. It's like they got shot in their home. Wait, hold on. They had a gun? Well, it was the cops just busted in the door with guns, like waving guns.

What are you talking about? And so it's like this reflex of like just also being like, well, there's no such thing as a perfect victim and nothing really to see here. Let's just kind of keep this moving. Can't believe Johnny Depp has had to go through such a horrible ordeal. Yeah. But that doesn't feel like this at all to me. the most sort of popular and like just media saturating case that has happened in the me too era i feel like is like it it's this other type of lie that's very common and effective in american culture which is the sampling error where they find like the one instance where either their point is true or it's easy for them

to make the case that the you know victim is lying and they make it you know they use that to blow it up and put it everywhere and make it seem like this is yeah this is this is what what things are actually like it's like, no, this is extremely unusual that there are a lot of unique factors happening in this case, like you were talking about, Sharla. And, you know, this is the same thing that happens with the local news, where it's not that they're making up crimes to show on the local news. They are just showing a disproportionate number of crimes

committed by black men or people of color or, you know, whoever they want to make people think is committing the most crimes. And like that, it's called confirmation bias, isn't it? Is that what it's called? Well, there's sampling error. But then, yeah, I mean, that confirmation bias is like that that helps them believe what they already wanted to believe. Right. And I think that's the thing, too, is like there was I was reading like a thread from like a mental health counselor who deals a lot with abuse survivors. abuse survivors and the talking about how sometimes in the narrative of a, of someone's head, if things don't match up perfectly with yours, sometimes that can be a threat to the validity of your claim that you had been through an ordeal. And that, you know, was to start talking about the phenomenon of how some of that doubt or

whatever is just, you know, like this sort of internalized misogyny too, of like being like, Oh God, well, like we're seeing a lot of these women be elevated as like the biggest depth defenders too, who are being like, let me tell you, I've been through something, what Amber heard is going through bullshit. So it's also causing this really fucked up split with people who have gone through a similar situation. And also just like the empathy is not flowing properly at all and we're just getting into this really fucked up you know like you're saying like we're just watching this toxic mess play out and we have like kids taking sides making tiktok videos where it's like you're 12 years old and you're like pretending to be amber heard in a video like what it's doing to popular culture

i think is another thing too that we're not really kind of grappling with it's like almost like when lorena bobbitt that lorena bo Bobbitt case came out when I was a kid. I was like, yo, she chopped this dude's penis off. But then you're like, oh, my God, he was abusing her physically and sexually for years. Well, is it the case that's affecting popular culture or is it popular culture affecting the case? Because it's like if this case wasn't up it wasn't a place like i don't know i don't know finland where do they have like equal where there's like equality between the sexes if it was a place that was more objective if it was a place like there's already

conspiracy theories coming out about all kinds of things every new thing that comes out there's a new conspiracy theory so it just kind of feels just like it's us that is reflecting this case like like it's us if it if it was dropped in another culture that wasn't so toxic towards women that wasn't so toxic in general would it be different i think it would be really different but because it's us because right because we already have bias because we already don't believe and we don't want you know or not enough of us want it this is what we're seeing and we're not able to actually objectively look at this is hey these are two people who are in a really toxic relationship that probably need to handle this in a different way and handle themselves in a different way but

we're watching it like a circus and it's actually like really sad i think i think it's really sad i feel like this is the like brett kavanaugh thing where the people who didn't want to believe the accuser in that case but the accuser was just fucking telling the truth and it was like pretty obvious like that this is like the those people coming back and being like see and not only that that accuser was extremely valid like she she was she was an ideal accuser right she was white she was educated she was she was she wasn't poor you know like she she had all of the things that you we would imagine we would want from an accuser and and it still wasn't enough. So it tells me that we're in a culture that doesn't want to take...

We don't want to change the status quo. We don't want to take away the power of these men to be able to do what they do. And we listen to them when they talk about... That was the danger when we were talking. Whenever a new accuser was accused, it was a it was a joke she misread my my advance she you know it she's confused she's the stupid one actually she's this is a witch hunt she's trying to bring me down and it's just like okay we can play those games and act like these men aren't actually predators but we didn't want to do that so now i feel like every time a new case comes out, it's just like what Jack was saying. It's like a new sample bias or something like that. Like,

we just choose what we want to believe when we see these new stories come out. I mean, the last time they used a breakup between a video game reviewer and a game designer for like a culture wide eruption of like violent misogyny in the like game fan industry but like this i don't know this just also feels seismic i feel like any any attempt to just be like it's a small tawdry like celebrity gossip story is like no this feels this feels like it's giving a big like ugly part of the culture like something that they wanted to yeah it's it's another Rorschach test we're

collectively failing yeah just to be like that's what you see oh boy okay we got fucking we got a lot of work to do and the other part about this too is there isn't a lot of talk about like what exactly like the legal strategy of johnny

depp too like him and amber heard they lived in california together but anti-slap laws are very strong in california you know what i mean like like there's a lot of laws to protect people from like defamation suits if they're like you know speaking out against like well-known people california is very it's very it's a lot harder to bring those kinds of cases there and fairfax county in virginia completely different story completely different story the laws are not as as strict when it comes to these like sort of anti-slap laws and his lawyer first was saying like first was saying like well you know she said something something to the Washington Post and that their servers are actually in Fairfax, Virginia. And that's why we're doing it here.

But then like later on was just also kind of acknowledging like his lawyer acknowledged, quote, acknowledging a pretrial hearing that one of the reasons they brought the case in a Fairfax County courthouse is because virginia's anti-slap slap law is not as broad as the one in california so there's like there's so many layers to like the intent to of like what johnny depp's aims are too and also just again like there is this very there's just like this side of it i can't understand like logically right because you could have you could have just taken you could have just stopped talking, gone on with your career. But this trial is bringing like, again, it's bringing more things on the record about Johnny Depp that I'm sure he wouldn't want out there. But in this instance, it's almost like, well, you know what? I'm like, she she has to humiliate herself now, too. And guess what? I have more supporters and it's going to look a lot worse for her than it is for me.

And it's the same. and that's why Marilyn Manson is doing the exact same thing it's like it's like a playbook like we're seeing like a new playbook or I mean this has existed for a while but like it's becoming normalized and now we're not even like looking at all the factors of it and we're just being like

oh she pooped in the bed and even then if you really read the documents about it most likely the dog and Johnny then if you really read the like the documents about it most likely the dog and johnny depp wasn't even living there at the time so was she gonna shit in her own bed right like that's anyway so they're like i do think that it is consequential and i think for a lot of the reasons too is like the amount of like the amount of gravitational pull it has on social media like on places like youtube and tiktok like that's a lot of that's a lot of misinformation weird takes going into the minds of

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Just just you know what? Listen to the Amber and Lacey Lacey and Amber show on Will Ferrell's Big Money Players Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And last time we felt good about a bill it was ending daylight savings time i think but it was like the wrong one and also they chose the wrong one a bunch of people are gonna get hit by cars i think is because of the one they chose. But yeah, so this is the Schedules That Work Act. Yeah. Simple name. I'm like, okay, schedules. Okay, what's going on?

So 58% of American workers are at hourly gigs, right? And I think most of us know what it's like to work hourly and how uncommon it is to have your shifts be like consistent and predictable so you can you know like plan your life like whether it's like classes or child care or you know helping out with your family things like that having a consistent thing like not only work monday wednesday friday and saturday like i know nailed on those are that's my week so most people do not have that luxury and we're constantly, you know,

having to do weird shit, like be on call or have like these weird moments. Like, why the fuck am I on call? I work at a laser tag place. The fuck are you talking about? Like, so I can break down the soda,

like syrup boxes when they go empty. Fuck that. So Elizabeth Warren and Rosa DeLauro from the house are introducing this bill because they know like, you know, legislation like this should be easy, like a no fucking brainer for anybody to support. And who wouldn't want to have some basic rules when it comes to, you know, your managers making your schedule get essentially they're calling for new laws that would make it, you okay for first of all if you need a shift to like a schedule change that you don't have to fear retaliation that you're somehow going to be painted like we're talking earlier like our

shitty shift manager reflexes or it's like oh you need to change your schedule well how do we know we can count on you then yeah like that kind of shit that like trying to do away with that kind of fucked up talk or just like that that sort of environment also to like just shitty things like being on call like when you're like i i have to be able to not do anything like i can't half panic about being called into work like while i'm taking care of something or or getting your hours cut in the middle of a work shift because things are slow yeah And I get that sometimes it's unsustainable, but that is also money for the worker that can no longer that now longer no longer has access to that to survive. So they're you know, they're looking at the polling and they say, wow. This this could work. It seems like even Republicans love this.

Fifty five percent of Republicans support this bill. 55. And look, that's not bad considering how boot-brained most conservatives are about going to work and being productive. But I just want to read in the text of the bill or like as they rolled out this bill, they're they're pointing to like why this is necessary, because it's not just like, oh, man, my fucking boss. Right. Quote, a growing body of research demonstrates that unstable and unpredictable work schedules have significant detrimental impacts on sleep quality, mental health and happiness and are associated with unstable child care care arrangements and negative health and

behavioral outcomes for children and impacts are likely to be the most severe for workers of color and their families, as workers of color are more likely than their white counterparts, even compared to white coworkers at the same company, to experience unstable work schedules. Unstable and unpredictable work schedules and the work-family conflict they produce are also associated with higher rates of turnover,

which creates further instability for employers and workers. It's like, right there, you're like, so what's the problem? It just makes sense. Right. And it's introduced by my president, Elizabeth Warren, who's who I voted for in the primaries, but

hey. We got Joe, you know. Do we think this has a chance of getting through? Maybe the bipartisanship will help it get through and get passed well yeah that sounds like it'll happen i mean it makes sense so it probably won't pass right i think you know i don't know who's opposed to it yet but you can you can tell somebody who's main donors like the chamber of commerce or something for sure they're gonna be like hey man don't fucking make standardized humane treatment for workers a law you fucking

what i pay you for you should cut out that part about why it's good for workers and just put the part where it's good for the corporations because let turnover yeah don't you want less turnover i feel like that's how you got to talk in this current climate because that's the only way if you put that it's better for workers of color girl don't even put that yeah that is good for the employers because they don't want to hear that right right right it's we'll see what happens. I mean, I think I hope that something like this would work. But it is really interesting, though, when you just look at like the poll numbers, right, like significant support for something like this from across the political spectrum. It's like it's hard to watch Democrats kind of tout these bills that have such bipartisan support, but not see the fucking thread here. You know, like, hey, man, fucking worker rights are really popular now since you're not willing to do anything about the inequality, like in terms of taxation for the wealthy. So maybe lean into this and watch your shitty poll numbers go up but like i don't know i would think even the most

cynical like democratic like democratic strategists would tell the dnc to go for like another rug pull on like worker rights in the midterms but hey it's still early they may you never know let's see what they do they've disappointed me tremendously oh my god just yeah it's literally like leaving breadcrumbs for like a child which is how I lead my children home from school. It's just leaving a trail of breadcrumbs for some reason. It works. It just works. But it's just like, hey, over here, over here.

And then they get distracted by, in this case, lobbyists or whoever's going to tell them that this is going to make it impossible to make schedules or you know yeah yeah instead of it'll make it slightly more difficult but that's okay because i mean this is the thing it's like this was i think first i think elizabeth warren first tried to introduce it to congress like in 2019 oh wow so so been trying to chop at this tree you know for a minute ahead of the curve no she's always dope there was one um i want to say that like the one of the earliest ones was in oregon in 2017 yeah yeah yeah oregon like i think was one of the first or at least least to my knowledge, and I don't, don't take that as the gospel truth, but I know in 2017, they also passed a similar thing. And it's, I think it's just one of those things for ages, people have always been advocating for something like this, which is you have to let people know when they're working and not working at a bare minimum. Like you can't, we can't have the power dynamic because you're completely beholden to your employer.

But that is the status quo in this country. So I think that's why we see bills like this constantly being like, hey, how about now? Yeah, right. Maybe. But yeah, real low. And it feels like a stand in for like either unions or just like a larger workers rights movement or push or something like that. Because just schedules. But that's why I like Elizabeth Warren, because she just tries to do it like baby crumbs,

exactly like what Jack was saying, like bit by bit. She just tries to break down the bigger movement of what we're trying to do. Before that, she was trying to do a bunch of like uh regulating the financial industry or the banking industry she was trying to regulate it to make it more consumer friendly to like make it more transparent and all these other things that she was trying to do but they didn't listen to her so she she does her best to try to break things down for everybody but it feels like the democrat strategy right now is still to appease the the right or to appease like these republicans that don't want to work with them so let's see what they let's see what they do they've been extremely disappointing

oh yeah yeah and i think and meanwhile you know biden just bows to the moderate wing and then we just get a fucking flurry of things like why the progressives fucked it all up. Yeah. Excuse you. No. They look at the people who are saying no to the shit that was wildly popular. Wasn't fucking progressives. And you would think that Biden would just go for it and just do it like he's you're on your way out of life.

You know, like you're like it's like like balls to the walls. Like, you know, you only live once. He's probably like, hey, I got hey, I got another run in me. You know, so 20. No, you don't. It's right now. This is you. I mean, I don't know why Biden even feels like he has another term.

You know, he might not have another week. Yeah, I was like there was that quote he gave about Taiwan. And then the administration was like, no, no, no that was cap that was cap he was captain that's all nonsense and you're like oh my god like is he is it is it that he's just freestyling up there it's like he saw how to be president 20 years ago and thinks that that's what we need right now like be a warmonger right now. Everybody's trying to just survive inflation. Like you're trying to, like you think that we want the kind of president

that we would have needed maybe 20 years ago, which we wouldn't have needed that at all anyway. But I feel like he's not able to pivot and focus on the moment and do what's needed in the moment. No, and that's been clear with just his, you know, inability to have a real discussion about you know roe v wade and how to actually codify proper abortion access into law but i think that's hopefully again maybe this is a radicalizing

moment for some people to be like okay i see things are really fucked up. I see that they have the votes for a lot of this stuff, but they're not doing it. Make this make sense? Because let me tell you, I see what is happening to Madison Cawthorn. I'm like, damn, could you imagine if the Democrats did that shit to fucking Joe Manchin? Try and get his ass in line?

To be like, oh, you really want to? Okay, you know, you pissed us off. Watch us eat your ass up because our, you know, Madison Cawthorn was getting in the way of their like polite stroll into fascism. And they, you know, they did what they had to to oust him pretty quickly. then make a decision but like i just started hearing like my first democrat being like i'm considering a run for 2024 uh assuming biden doesn't run but like almost like a like that is a like 50 50 shot at this point that biden doesn't run at which point like the news cycle just becomes utter fucking chaos if he announces that he's not going to run, but the, the person in question,

Eric Adams from New York city. Great. A brand new mayor. Yeah. Who was a cop. Great. Amazing. Yes.

Yes. More cops, more cops, cops, cops. Let's just spend the last minute of the episode. Cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, cops, the episode cops cops cops cops cops cops everybody charlotte it's such a pleasure

having you as always where can people find you follow you all that good stuff you know what hilariously i am not on social media no wonder you thriving yeah that's why i'm thriving i'm just like amber heard who what

no i know but then you go on youtube trying to find your put a ring on it clip it's literally all over youtube you're like everything is this trial how i don't watch this shit but they've fucked the algorithms up that that's all i see yeah i am starting a new blog for um expiring new and aspiring screenwriters and creative hustlers like us. Just giving, you know, tips and advice on how to thrive. It's brand new and hopefully it'll be up. It's called TheWorkingWriter.com. W-E-R-K.

The Working Writer. So get that work. Hopefully it'll be up by the time this episode is up and if it's not it'll be up at some point so that is brand new and i'm gonna be launching that is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying or just regular media yeah actually my magazine article no my little sister sends me hilarious oh good okay shorts all the time. So I'm going to send it over to you guys.

It's just this little girl in this wig store dancing with the little wig. And it's done. It's hilarious. I felt like a Spanish, like a Puerto Rican in this hair. I felt Puerto Rican. Y'all know I love Mr. Puerto Rican. I felt Puerto Rican. Wow, that girl is working that wig.

Wait. That's stupid. That's so funny. Miles, where can people find you? What is a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. And also check out, obviously, Mad Boosties, the basketball podcast Jack and I do. We've got fantastic guests.

This week is no different. Also, check out 420 Day Fiance. If you like 90 Day Fiance, some tweets that I like. Well-a-chee, well-a-chee, well-a-chee. Let's try this one. This one is just funny to me because I laugh at people who are taking crypto L's, you know, when they can afford to. OK, I'm not laughing at the small retail investor who may have been absolutely hoodwinked. But this is from more butter at more butter TV tweeted Seth Green's board ape NFT, which was set to star in its own animated show, was stolen through a phishing scam.

Don't tell me that's my house. Don't tell me that. was stolen through a phishing scam. Don't tell me that's Miles. Don't tell me that. Green no longer owns the commercial rights to the NFT and thus the show cannot move forward. Oh my God. How is he going to perpetuate these racist memes?

Oh. Okay. All right. I'm not laughing. I know. I know. That's not a joke to me. And here's another one for all the i think you

should leave fans out there president of calendars at mr zoomer tweeted a picture of a guy like with his new lawn sign and you know those lawn signs that say like in this house we believe like love is love black lives matter like those sort of you know being like hey you're in a safe neighborhood until you ask me for something by knocking on my door uh kind of signs this sign says in this house we believe the bones are their money so are the worms they've never seen so much food as this underground there's half as much food as this bones equal dollars just because that the the skeletons came to life song sketch is one of my favorites. That is. The bones are their money.

The thing I like about I think you should leave, which I always forget every one of the sketches until someone quotes it for me. And then I remember it all over again. And it's funny to me all over again. But it cannot stick in my brain for some reason, which is good, which is good. Yeah. You can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien a couple tweets i've been enjoying jenny hogan tweeted i've been described as introverted by dozens of men i didn't want to talk to and then damatella versace tweeted asking a close friend what do you do for work again which is just

something I identify with you can find you know people like that wait what do you do I don't know I don't know what any of my friends in finance do for a living like none of them oh yeah that's oh yeah okay zero you can

find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy oh man uh this track is from nia archives and it's called love light i don't know where she is from but this track is like very diy like pop kind of thing but it almost feels like she's combining like west african high life like guitar with drum and bass and singing on it it's a very like genre diverse like very like it's that mute when you hear you're

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