The Daily Zeitgeist - DeSantis: Insecure Disney Adult, Havana Syndrome Update 03.02.23

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

In episode 1433, Jack and guest co-host Jamie Loftus are joined by twin comedians and hosts of the monthly show Triplet Auditions, Sabina & Annabel Meschke, to discuss… DeSantis Dedicated A Chapter Of His New Book To Defending His ‘Disney Adult’ Wedding, Havana Syndrome Was Not Caused By Foreign Attack According to a Comprehensive Intelligence Review and more! DeSantis Dedicated A Chapter Of His New Book To Defending His ‘Disney Adult’ Wedding Ron DeSantis's scorn-filled book sets the tone for a potential campaign Florida governor signs bill giving state control of Walt Disney World district Preaching Freedom, Ron DeSantis Leads By Cracking Down Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis was married at Walt Disney World DeSantis says he insisted on ‘no Disney characters’ at his Disney World wedding Havana Syndrome Was Not Caused By Foreign Attack According to a Comprehensive Intelligence Review Was It an Invisible Attack on U.S. Diplomats, or Something Stranger? PRE-ORDER Jamie Loftus' new book Raw Dog: The Naked Truth about Hot Dogs here! LISTEN: Do You Feel High? by Pink SkiesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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into America's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday, March 2nd, 2023. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka regular crab, regular crab, no animation, just a crustacean. Thanks to Disney. That is courtesy of Warren the Werebear on the Discord in reference to the leaked art around Sebastian. And it's just a crab who we're going to have to just watch and project emotions onto in this upcoming Little Mermaid. It's a very Disney-ful show today. Yeah. Little Mermaid. It's a very Disney-ful show today. Yeah. I'm thrilled to be joined by an Emmy-nominated writer, artist, and comedian behind many acclaimed podcasts. You heard her say, let's fucking go at the beginning of the episode as we're recording. She's the author of the

upcoming New York Times bestseller, Raw Dog. She's here all week, folks. It's Jamie Loftus! bestseller Raw Dog. She's here all week, folks. It's Jamie Loftus! A.K.A. I could be yellow, I could be bellow, I could be hot dog and fries, I could be Kathy, I could be nasty, I could be anything you like. I'm not going to finish

that because I can't keep going. I can't keep going. But look, it takes a turn. It references Brockton and it references IQ test. It's a pretty comprehensive AKA. Wow.

Yeah. That's from. It's like what? It's like an origin story theme song. It's just like you can just have it to do with as you will. Not just for this show, but in life. Yeah. It's my minions rise of grew.

It's my origin story. That's from Maxim derrick at dg for prez thank you so freaking much and sorry i did i lacked the confidence to finish it the maximum derrick how about it well we are thrilled to be joined by twin comedians out of brooklyn whose monthly show is called triplet auditions so we're all trying we're all trying out for that role. Their short film, Pennies from Heaven, is premiering at South by Southwest next month or whenever South by is.

It's Annabelle and Sabina Meshkin! Whee! Yay! What's up, guys? Oh my gosh, what a pleasure. What a pleasure to have you. I'm feeling the excitement feeling. I'm feeling the excitement feeling. I'm feeling the smiling feeling.

Of course. The joy feeling. The feeling normal feeling. All the regular stuff. Just colliding. All the normal stuff. People feel, I feel human. Human emotions.

Lots of them. I also realized I'm wearing, we're going Disney mode today. I'm wearing my Florida top. We got a lot of Florida stuff coming in. Florida dominating the news cycle. All for good reasons, I'm sure.

They're nailing it. Setting a golden standard, as always. The sunshine standard. That's right. Very proud to hail from there. So you're Brooklyn by way of Florida. Brooklyn by way of Florida.

Yeah. What did Florida bequeath unto you as your experience in Florida? What do we need to know about Florida that doesn't come across from the memes and the news stories? I mean, the memes and the news stories are just a highlight reel. I would almost say that it is crazier, even crazier. Oh, yeah. There was the craziest stuff that ever happened at our high school. There was two double homicides our senior year of high school.

Awkward. And such an awkward time to be a teen and on student government no less and so yeah but so those aren't those weren't even in like the dare i say that guys they were they were not ever spoken of and it's so wacky wild but there's also a general attitude in florida that is so messed up but also hilarious it's like a kind of sick giddiness that everybody has to be to have like a proximity to stuff that people are talking about and like to be like oh i was there or like there's there was a an article there was a case in in our county of palm beach county uh where a kid kills his parents to have a party and left their bodies in the house as he had the party.

Oh yeah, I know that one. That one hit our humble show. It's so nice to connect with. There's like a big old Rolling Stone article about it, and the last line of the article is a quote from one of the kids who attended the party that was like,

yeah, it's messed up what Zach did did but at least i can say i was there it's like no annabelle coming rip roaring out the gate listing three homicides in a row and i told you i'm my normal i'm on my normal girl shit my thing recently so y'all heard about y'all heard about the uh the the thing where it was like they found an alligator in prospect park epic yes and yet another transplant one of my co-workers was like i was like did it say in the article like how big it was my like florida brain poison being like right how big and then my co-worker was like how many families can it feed and can i outrun it um and my co-worker was like

yeah it was huge it was like four feet and i was like that's small actually put it back annabelle tweeted said put it back and let it grow and i said yeah let it grow let it grow put it back and let it grow for sure that's like a toddler how was it what's a what's a respectably sized uh gator by your standards just so we know six to seven i would say yes six to eight six to eight six to eight is like you hear about eight and you're not you know you're not super like that's eight's not too crazy like if you hear like 10 you're like that's big but then wait what was the size of the one what was the size of the one that made us late to school that one time that was going to go ahead and be eight feet long on the highway okay

yeah yeah there was like a gator on the highway so it has to yeah it has to be big enough to cover at least one lane of traffic and then you'll respect it yeah yeah yeah then i'll look in the eye you'll mention it once you get to school below that you're like fuck this but any any other double homicides yeah i think you undercounted the homicides actually because there were two double homicides that's true well yeah two doubles oh that's four bodies yeah and actually i'll tell you it was actually it was actually five because one of them was a double a double homie sue oh i'm sorry for literally saying that um but it was that and then also one of the double homicides was actually you guessed it on campus thank you so much oh no it was crazy it was some janitor on janitor

not i hate janitor on janitor crime it was the way uh i went to uh i like did a show at uh that i think uof in tallahassee? Tallahassee is Florida State. Tallahassee State. I fucked up. I fucked up and I'm fired. But I went there last year and afterwards I was like, hmm, am I safe to make a Ted Bundy joke? I don't know. Is it cool to make a Ted Bundy joke while I'm

here? And it couldn't have gone over better. And then there was a group that came up to me afterwards and was like, do you want the Ted Bundy tour of campus? Because like it's not clearly marked, but we can show you like where he was at. And so, yeah, I mean, I don't know. I think everyone is so happy to show you the carnage and terror. We're just so happy someone wants to see something like we're like, oh, oh.

How's the tour, though? Yeah. It was pretty dark and pretty wet out. And I was, you know, in the grasp of a bunch of 19-year-olds who were strangers. And so I was like, you know what, guys? I actually think I'm good. We usually don't need to do this. That's what I assumed. I was kidding.

Yeah. But I hung in there for a good 15 minutes. And I do think that there's like something incredibly potent about a leftist from Florida. Cause you really, they really make you work for it. Against all odds. Nevertheless,

we persist. It is so, it's like, it's so wild because it's like now, especially like, like it's in like small town, florida like kind of where we're from like our cousins our uncle like is not a republican but they my our two cousins neither of whom are old enough to vote are both it's like the popular thing to be like still now trump

supporters even it's like the cool kid thing and it's like it's come around to a point where it's like kids are rebelling against their liberal parents by supporting trump it's like so wackity doodly doot doot it is that is a mess a whole ass mess they don't know oh baby all right well we're gonna get to know you both a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things that we might be talking about today. Ron DeSantis, new book dropping. Jamie, are you feeling the competition? Me, Prince Harry, and Ron DeSantis, all jockeying. It's a big season for the publishing industry.

Ron DeSantis. Major. It's a big season for the publishing industry. Ron DeSantis. Major. So he has a new book coming out that uses the word elite like 40 times in 12 pages. Somebody counted. And also spends a whole chapter like justifying his Disney adult wedding. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about Havana syndrome back in the news. Another intelligence review that has concluded that it was not caused by sci-fi weapons and, you know, seems to leave the conclusion that it was in the heads of the CIA agents who experienced it. So we'll talk about that because I love to talk about it and just say the same thing over and over again. But the mainstream media is not picking up my lead.

So I'm just going to keep saying it until they do. They will hear you. They will. But before we get to any of it, Sabina, Annabelle, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? So yesterday,ina, Annabelle, we do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history? So, yesterday. Oh, Annabelle.

Sabina, why don't we start with you? There you go. Of course. And I knew you were going to say that, which is why I started talking, of course. I was trying to this is like okay, super random sauce. Okay. But I was doing America america's greatest pastime which is

talking smack in a group chat and i was i didn't know okay so i thought within the within the lexicon of terms describing various sub sections of of gay culture i was familiar with twink. I was unfamiliar with twunk. And so in my search history as twunk definition, I was under the impression that it was like a past tense twink. Like used to be a twink, now no longer a twink. Like twink, twink, twink, twunk.

Like think thunk. Yes, yes. That's what I thought. In the Grinchian sense. I conjugated it. Yeah. But alas, not the case. I learned that it is a combination of twink and hunk.

So that is something that I learned. But I was like, wouldn't it be way better if it was past tense twink? Like former twink lost the twink glory. Lost the twinkness. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I thought. And I had to Google it.

I was wrong. And I learned something new. That is wild. I filled in after you said the thing. I was like, hunk! Like I knew it was wrong. That term assumes that not all twinks are hunks. That's true.

What is the Venn diagram of twink and hunk? Because then what is hunk? I think it's like a muscular, like hunk meaning muscular, but I'm like, that opens up a whole other. Oh, like a jock kind of situation. Like a twink jock, like a twock. Yeah, a twock. Okay. I kind of like that.

Yeah. Well, we'll have to submit it to the board that spells it out a little more wow so producer becca's suggesting that the the twunk the past test past tense twunk would be like the twink to bear pipeline like if somebody was yeah perhaps perhaps twunk can be kind of uh okay women in stem twunk kind of a a stop in the middle from like a like a a layover on the twink to bear pipeline there you go oh now is otter is otter a stop on the train i don't know if i don't know if otter is a stop on the train if it was i think it would be well gee i don't know between and Bear. Yeah, it would be between. Between.

And there's so much overlap. Like it's, I don't know. There's overlap between the stops. Maybe train is not the right analogy. It's complicated. It's like a little carousel. For sure. It's like the Willy Wonka elevator.

Right. Oh my God. Yeah. Annabelle, how about you? what's something from your search history well well well um i have i have one that's uh funny because i'm a little stupid and the first one is what is havana syndrome thank you so much and um and then the my one that i was gonna say is just uh assorted doll heads um i'm just looking for those for normal just an image search uh like google shop i've i've purchased assorted is what's getting me the assorted lots different i'm sort of in the market to sort of commission some peculiar jewelry from a gentleman

and and i need and i need heads i need lots of heads and so there we so i got it but the thing is about purchasing vintage doll heads is you can't guarantee all of them are gonna be politically correct oh lord god so it's like oh it's it's like it's like all normal baby dolls and i'm sure i haven't seen on the image but i'm positive one of them's gonna be crazy i don't know well i was i don't know for a fact i thought you were gonna say that you can't guarantee that they're not all deeply possessed they probably are all deeply possessed of course that is guaranteed i've seen on etsy i've seen like etsy salespeople charge premiums for the doll to be haunted. They're like, you can have a doll for $15, but if you want it to be haunted, it's going to be $23.

Kind of situation. That's not too steep. Sounds like a deal to me. That's not too steep for a ghost. I had the same doll in my Etsy cart forever. And then someone else finally bought it. And I was like, well, I slept on this for 10 consecutive months. But it was baby Jigsaw.

And I should have gotten it. I don't know what I was holding off on. Like a baby Yoda but a baby Jigsaw? But it's baby Jigsaw. A tiny tricycle. That's the cutest thing I've ever heard. I mean, Jigsaw is on a tricycle. So I always assumed Jigsaw was just an old-looking toddler.

Kind of a Benjamin Button. Yeah, a Benjamin Button, yeah. Jigsaw's all man. He's a man. But when you see baby Jigsaw, it kind of scratches the baby Muppet's itch, and you're like, oh, I guess I do want this. He wants to play a game, and the game is Roblox. The game is Roblox, of course. How much extra do they charge for a haunted doll head?

Because that feels like that is proof of the afterlife. That feels like it should cost a lot of money. It also, to me, begs the question, if they're saying like, you could pay this much for a doll head, but you want it to be haunted pay this much it kind of is like okay so this etsy seller has the ability to place a ghost inside inside amazing powers can i hire you for other things yeah also i'm just browsing browsing etsy real. And the title of these... Follow me and go ahead. No, no, but I'm so sorry.

The title of these... It's $180. Thomas, two-year-old, child spirit, positive. Oh. He's a nice one. Wow. Real haunted doll. Ingrid needs a loving home.

Right. Yeah, so that's... How much is Ingrid? Ingrid's only $41. Her hair's a little messy. She's a little cranky. That seems like a pretty good price. I would be cranky too if I was being sold inside of a doll for $41 on Etsy. Nobody was combing my hair nicely.

No one's even combing my hair. Sabina, there's twin dolls. Twin dolls. That's us. A set of two for 127 dollars logan and jasmine positive energy okay tag yourself i have a doll named logan that's so exciting are you a doll girlina are you a dollstress i'm a big doll head yeah i got i've been using the same american girl logan doll on stage for like five years. He's in rough shape. He's definitely haunted.

But he wasn't that way when I got him. Seems like we've got assorted doll heads on this Zoom right now. Yeah, a bunch of doll heads. I do, ultimately at the end of the day, I do collect miniatures. It is what it is.

Normal in a way. And I do, they're mostly of dogs, mostly porcelain dogs like a normal girl does collect. And I go out of my way, I will say, to buy the ones that look the most haunted. Because there's ones that are cute

but I'm not interested in that. I'm into the ones that look so messed up and weird and freakish. So, it is what it is. As one would. Yes. It one would. Yes. It makes sense. My youngest turned five this past weekend. We had a Ninja Turtles birthday cake for him.

And the splinter doll on the cake that came with the cake has human hands and looks like tortured by it. And I feel like I could sell it for a pretty good price. Of course, this is giving you a bit of a business model. Yeah. You can just put it on Etsy and be like, yeah, put it on Etsy, release it, splinter, and then in parentheses, release me. Yes, parentheses, release me.

You can definitely upcharge for the human hands and for the tortured look. Up a human hand and tortured look. Each of those is a charge. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and do some overrated, underrated. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

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they're just dreams dream sequence is a new horror thriller from blumhouse television iheart radio and realm listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever and we're back and sabina what is something that you think is overrated i'm going to say in general i would say the filters on like beauty filters on tiktok and I say this because I scroll on my For You page. Every other video is just someone with the filter on going, oh my God. Oh my God. And then it's like, we don't know what you normally look like. Yeah. And then it's like, if it's not that, it's someone going, oh my God. And then another person stitching the video going, it's not going to look like that on me. And then going, oh my God. And it's just like, it's not going to look like that on me. And then going,

Oh my God. And it's just like, it just is driving me up the freaking wall and making me do a flip. And granted, I do fall into the trap. I'll click on the filter. I'll see how that looks. But I said,

of course I stopped short of filming a video of myself going, Oh my God, it's like everyone. It's like, there's so many videos, hundreds of thousands of likes, if not millions. I'm like, who, I don videos, hundreds of thousands of likes, if not millions.

I'm like, who? I don't know. I guess. In their defense, they look a little different. You know what? I didn't consider that. I didn't consider that they look a little different than what they normally look like. Oh, okay.

They look a little different. Oh, that's pretty cool. Because normally they look one way and then the filter kind of causes them to look a little different. Oh, that's pretty cool. Because normally they look one way and then the filter kind of causes them to look a little different. A little different. That was something I didn't consider. So that's not what they normally look like. Okay, now I got you. It would make sense

to want to share that with people. Yeah, I get it. Actually, now I'm saying it's underrated. It's like freaking magic over here. And how do the people get in the phone? Annabelle, what's something you think is overrated? What I think is overrated is it's also similarly like an online thing that has been consuming my brain recently, which is like man on the street interviews

conducted by comedians to comedians but no one on tiktok they're like you know they're new york comedians people know them if like you're a comedian but it's like the people on tiktok at large are like how do you find so many people cracking so many jokes crazy oh my god and it's just like a bunch of male comedians saying that they require women to shave their gen of alias um it's like literally just like and it's like i think i know exactly which person you're talking about and there was one video where every really like it was like 10 men getting interviewed and they were all like i hate when a woman wears a ponytail it makes me want to throw up yeah Yeah. They're like, whatever.

It's like, it's like, they're just, it's just like, it's a woman wielding the microphone, which, you know, power to her.

Love that microphone. Give the woman that, that, that voice. And then she subsequently sort of throws that voice over to any man in, in a five mile radius. And it's just like, what do you hate about women?

And then they're like, I want to kill them when they wear braids. it's like you know it's like it's like that is it's it's i say it's overrated because literally like they get hundreds of thousands of hits and it's like hits i'm 45 years old okay they get tons of thousands a bunch of viral hits a bunch of viral hits we're going viral we got a million awesome awesome bunch of viral hits a bunch of viral hits we're going viral we got a million awesome awesome bunch of viral hits ain't that what we all want come on and it's like the people the people who are so it's like there's two sort of sides of comments and one of them is like where did you go to find all these men just so i know never to go and some and then like on the

other side it's like how'd you find all these funny hunks where can I it's like it's just the expo it's just making me and then more so I just like I want to save the girl I want to say get out of there you don't have to be asking every guy at the open mic if they like you know bush or no you know it's okay there's too many there's too many comedians like tiktok comedians specifically wandering around outside, accosting people at random. Wandering around. It's like, and it's like people that you would think would have made fun of like improv everywhere back when that used to be the most horrible thing in the entire world. But now they're just doing, it's the same energy where you're just like, no one wants to be here. And there's going to be video evidence of it

that my aunt is going to text me about. Like, ugh. It is kookity, kookity, lookity. You've got to pass some legislation. Take the microphones away. This jaywalking erasure, that's what I'm upset about. Everybody's forgetting about Jay. Gee whiz. Gee whiz.

Gee whiz. A swish. That was a thing like in, because I am almost 45 years old. I do still say, look at the hits on this video. Things got a thousand hits. Sometimes things get hits.

Sometimes they do. We should, we gotta bring it back. You can't deny it. It has to be like a micro generational thing where like, there's just like a, I'm sure there's shit that I say that wouldn't make sense to someone five years older or younger than me. My mom still says like,

if I'm meeting up with my friends, I'm hooking up with them. Yes. Yes. The hooking up. And then also the, the, I feel like my mom or like,

I feel like a lot of moms will just say girlfriends a lot when they don't mean girlfriends, like smooching, but girlfriends like friends, but also people I've heard people, people my age also do that. And I'm like, what's going on?

I need to know. One time my mom was like, okay. Like we were on the phone and she's like, I got to go hook up with your uncle. And I was like, well, we are,

we are from Florida. So ultimately, we need more details. We need more details. That's Uncle Dad. There was a long period where all the reality shows, like all the MTV, like raid your room shows and stuff like that. We're just a bunch of like stand up comedians and comedians that you could like recognize from like improv videos and other places so this is just like the pipeline this is what they do now history repeating itself yeah giving the hungriest mice in the whole town a damn cookie that's right absolutely absolutely they're getting that cookie. That's right. What is something, Annabelle, that you think is underrated?

I'm so happy you've asked me this. I was underrated. I've been really elbow deep in TLC, the learning channel. And they host some well-known programs like 90 Day Fiance and all these sort of things. some well-known programs like 90 Day Fiance and all these sort of things. But what I am passionately going to be advocating for until the day that I die is there are lesser known programs, such as like every single spinoff kind of gives you all the information. For example, there's a spinoff called Darcy and Stacey, and it's this set of twins. and I just love

it. I mean, of course, twin content is fabulous to me, but it's these two middle-aged women who have had an inspiring level of plastic surgery, and they are twins, so they look exactly like they have. They've all had all the same stuff done, but I still kind of try to figure out the differences between them. And anyway, there's always a pointy twin and a round twin. I refuse to explain. i'm just kidding but so do you feel like uniquely qualified to comment on this program

specifically yes also because it's like these two sisters they it's just they're sort of chronicling their dating life and it's like the sisters live together and they combine kids and like what do you mean by combine kids like they have some sort of machine i realize now what i sounded to say um but uh they like they just have like they live under one roof basically like and those poor like sister was exactly and the the main tlc show not even Darcy and Stacey, the one that I really recommend everybody watch, is Extreme Sisters. Because that is a show...

Oh, and Jamie, I see your ears perk up. And here I am speaking to your... I love to give someone something that makes them go, ooh, so very happy. So this show is basically it's like it's they just introduced their first triplet set up until then it's been like two firsts like twins and and and normal style sisters and whatnot and basically it's like there's one it's like a set of twins that married another set of twins and they all live in one house or like you know these the the craziest ones they're from australia their accents are

they're so thick it's so crazy it's like so crazy and they share a boyfriend they share everything and they have shared this they've shared this boyfriend for 10 years they have 10 years they've shared him and they have and i can speak on this sabine and i are both ocd queens they have the most unchecked ocd play represent fun they have raging it is what uh how does it manifest for them so it is so fascinating fascinating sickening and disgusting it's like in more in more innocent ways it's like when they're creepy creepy their mom is also like a tim burton character it's like every single thing you learn about their life it like explains more and more but so their mom will like pour them a little

cup of coffee but then they literally will stand there for like five minutes being like mom you put more in that one mom put more in that one like it has to be all and then with their boyfriend yeah and with their boyfriend it's like if he kisses one of them he has to be all equal. And then with their boyfriend. Yeah. And with their boyfriend, it's like, if he kisses one of them, he has to immediately go and kiss the other. And so you can only imagine what they're like in the boudoir is like, and it's like, just it's,

and it's a lot of the show is, you know, those twins, like having fights with each other's husbands and their husbands, like losing their gourds. There's actually, yeah, it's extreme sister.

So it's just women very sensitively with oh of course of course that is that is another thing where it's like did they tell these people the title of the show before going into their house to be like look at the freak like it's so it's just wild it's amazing a lot of them one of them a, they had braces and her twin didn't have braces. The twin got her braces off and made her sister lick her teeth so that they could both feel the sensation of just getting your braces off. There's sisters that like chew each other's toenails off. One of them, there's, there's one. And it's like, these are like people that you'd see walking down the street and be like, that's the most normal person in the world.

You know, wearing Uggs and having a purse. I don't know. You know? Yeah. Yeah. It's very crazy. That is the textbook definition of normal. Yeah.

Normal exists at the intersection of wearing Uggs and having a purse. The wicked encyclopedia picture. It's just Uggs and a purse. Yeah. It's just like, you know, like boots and a purse kind of and then you feel like okay well by all means that's average and then the most extreme form of sistering is to lick one another's teeth so yeah yeah they've technically followed through yes justin's revealing that he's also watched yes oh yes okay it the the Yes. Oh, yes. Okay. A message is coming through saying,

did the Australian twins also apply that they think they're literally the same person? Yes, they did. They have on many occasions said that they feel like one person, which is why they don't think it's weird that they have the same husband. And they like,

I think I saw a clip of them like objecting to paying, like they were like getting their haircut or something and they like only wanted to pay for one haircut because they were like we're the same person annabelle or like they're applying yeah i know they're applying for jobs at this point in the season and they're like we'll take one salary we don't care like it's very like and then everyone's like well you'll scare the customers actually so uh we can't have you in the building but yeah it's wild amen as connoisseurs of twin content like what do you guys have a favorite like piece of twin movie twin

show what's the gold what's the gold standard we were big sisters we were big sister sister heads growing up we loved sister sure oh fucking sweet life sweet life yeah sweet life was the move good we were about it about it about it i love those crazy jokers i was real i was i was obsessed with them once they got on deck though wasn't too about it that was like i don't know that's when i got off the deck i was like maybe we're not on maybe we don't go to a boat maybe we stay did they really need to put cory in the house you know like maybe we're not on maybe we don't go to a boat maybe we stay did they really need to put Corey in the house you know like exactly they did not need to put him in the house no no and why do I remember every word to that theme song Corey Corey Corey in the house it's a party

oh Corey Corey Corey check it out yeah of course of course it's and that's why i don't know long division but i uh it's that's the information that's taking space in my brain yeah big sister sister heads sweet life was just huge because everyone was like we had a twin is funny a shocking lack of exposure to olsen's i think that's kind of we like knew about them and it's sort of like i mean like we obviously i used to think Mary comma Kate comma Ashley were all three different people. So now now I understand it is too. And that's cool for me. That's cool for me.

Yeah, of course. Well, it's like if we're going I don't know. I feel like Tia and Tamara had like they're better actors. They have more charisma than MK&A. Yes. But also, MK&A seemed like they were acting since they were zero years old, which is kind of scary. Yeah. Yeah.

They needed a little break. Didn't they just play one person on Full House? Yeah. Yeah. They did. Yeah. One baby. Yeah.

I also liked the film Twitches on Disney Channel. Oh! Love that. That was a Tia and Tamara moment. A a tia tamara production that shit rocked that i think because it's like every well i'm generalizing i was like every child craves witch powers but probably every child yeah every child craves witch powers for sure i don't think any child would say no if offered witch powers. Definitely. Definitely.

Even if they don't think about it. So, you know, what is something you think is underrated? I hear a lot of another TikTok thing. I'm addicted to my phone. Can't stop. Need help, etc. All my friends are always like, I'm scrolling my free page. And I hate when I get like, it's so weird getting when people are live on TikTok and it's like just normal people.

And it's like 10 people watching. That is underrated to me. I will watch that for hours. If it's a normal, mostly if it's normal people, not celebrities, not people with large followings that are fighting normal people fighting. Because in real life, if you hear like you're if you hear normal people and they're having kind of a little argument, my ear, I'm like, I wish I could just sit in front of y'all and listen because I'm a sicko. And that TikTok kind of allows you to do that because they are broadcasting it live and arguing.

Or there is a community of, again, small, small followings. And it's like a bunch of mormon swingers and it's hell yeah so and they're always arguing with each other things get things get a little tense in the mormon swinger community so just normal normal people in tiffs with each other also i find that usually sometimes when you're scrolling through and it's like normal people lives normal people lives all you gotta do is stay for like two minutes and then they'll be like yeah so anyway like this wood grain is blah blah blah and i can speak to spirits and you know what i mean like pop out with something crazy like i was watching one earlier

today where this kind woman was sharing off her like sharing her child's cosplay art which was you know love a proud parent and then she said that art babe i know but it only goes uphill from here and she sits down and she sits down in her gamer chair and turns on what i think like an enya sort of ambient music puts on a blindfold and just starts swirling around in her chair and gribbling and i was like and it was just kind of like to pivot from it's you know all you got to do is stick around long Starts swirling around in your chair. Hold on a minute. And now? Gribbling. And I was like. And it was just kind of like to pivot from. It's, you know. All you got to do is stick around long enough.

They'll start speaking to the spirits. And they will start speaking to the spirits. For sure. For crayon in a gamer chair. Like. For sure. Oh, something. Something else that I love.

It's in the same vein. Is when I'm in these normal people's lives. Something about the energy that I bring. Leads. Leads these people to often block me and it's not i'm not i'm not doing anything crazy and i swear on my life i literally if they're feeling if they're looking a little wacky i'll ask the classic question are you vaccinated and they will block me so goddamn fast they'll block me so fast and then so that's kind of i'd take that as a no then um this man so that happened with this particular spirituality guru and his name is nicky scorpio okay name dropping and he deeply i'm sure that's his birth name and

um he yeah he was one of the people that blocked me and then i asked him what his full astrological chart was he blocked me again blocked me again that seems like what he'd be here to answer his name is nikki scorpio so i was like god forbid i ask a little bit more and then my he's like it's a nickname. I'm Nicholas Scorpion. I'm a scorpion expert. But that name sounds silly. And that's why I go by Nicky Scorpion. Nicky Scorpio. Nicky Scorpio.

Yeah, who would ever be named Nicholas Scorpion? No less. That's the only way he could get a job. It's crazy. Because then my friend, I told my friend who I, my friend who's a full-blown scientist who I'm actively making her stupider every day. I texted her and I was like this man just blocked me for asking his chart and then she was like I'm gonna go on and try to get

blocked she asked the same question and he talked for seven minutes about his chart so I'm like something I bring something to these lives that they don't like but vaccination they can tell you're vaccinated and they can tell you do have a very like vaccinated energy. Those of us who know the truth about vaccines kind of sense. It's probably been dulled by other people. They can feel the 5G through the phone. That's right. And your username is Vaccinista. That's probably it too.

Sabina Vaccina. That's me. Okay. La la loo loo. Yeah. So producer Becca was on Trends on Monday, and we were talking about an article that somebody did that was like the inky darkness of TikTok Live. And they spent a night just spending 10 minutes

on a different live, just skipping from one to the other at random. And they seemed really to be in a dark place after coming out of it. But their description was the first time that I have been intrigued enough that I feel like I'm missing out on something by not being on TikTok. It's terrifying.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do feel like it is like so, I don't know. It feels like very like a return to like the very primitive like time of the internet where people are yeah where people are just like doing shit and hoping people care but either way it's gonna be really fucked up to watch like yeah it reminds me of high school you're like yeah yeah this is a return to form it's good periscope do you guys remember Periscope? Periscope. That was like, one of the, Periscope was one of the first like live things.

And I was like, I was, despite being Gen Z on the cusp of technological advancement, I have a crotchety nature. So I sort of was like, why would anybody want to watch something new and someone ate in their hands? But in fact, it's a catch-on. I like it. And, like, the less, like, I don't know, carefully, like, orchestrated it is, the better. Just someone sitting around.

It's nice. Someone sitting around. And also, it's like, yeah, sometimes I find, like, the less they look at the chat, the more I'm like, this is my favorite movie. That's so true. I'm being negged by them. There's also ones that are like, they're only looking at... It's interesting in a way. Okay, me about to say the stupidest thing on earth.

Interesting in a boring way. Sorry. Where like when the lives are just like people only reading the chat and they seem so miserable. I'm like, who is making you do this? You can close the phone. Close the phone. Close the phone close the for sure yeah better they're they're also they seem to like share something in common with the like coney

island like freak show thing where you would just like go and like throw things because like one of the things they described was somebody sleeping with their... Showing themselves live, doing a TikTok live and sleeping. But if you tipped them enough, it would wake them up. So there's a torture. It's like, ruin my sleep. Contribute 200 points to drop an anvil on my crop. And the different gifts are like different kinds of alarms or like,

if you send a galaxy, I'll have my husband pour water on me. Or it's just something. Yeah, like something is going on. I don't know. There's some sort of shift happening. I can't tell if it's good or bad, but like, it just feels like you're like,

ooh, we've been here before. I don't know if it was good that we were there, but now we're kind of back. Whereas like the guys online yesterday that were like, hey, I just found out my husband is my brother. And then they got a ton of shit online. And then they were like, just kidding. What? There's a decent amount of stuff like that where it's like there's a couple, another TikTok couple that's like, we just found out we might be cousins.

Should we stay together? And it's like, just found out we might be cousins should we stay together and it's like what what what's going on it's it is it's very wild very very wild it is reminiscent of like a chat roulette and omegle kind of thing like a little yeah it's i'm having a dark side brother do you like that should we stay? And does it make you horny? Like and comment. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God.

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he assured me that he was uh gonna be well out of my release thing yeah you know whatever fine it seems so there there's also like he he had a press conference where i i think he is officially you know signing a bill allowing the state to take control of Disney World's tax district away from them or like to. Yeah. Basically, like not letting them have the same powers as a religion. And he did. Oh, man. The corporate kingdom finally comes to an end, which feels like I don't know, like he's doing this because they criticized his don't say gay law.

So, but, but it is frustrating to me that like battling corporations who've gotten away with too much for way too long, like is like, that's a winner. Like politically, that's going to be a winner, like from now on, because people I think are like waking up to the fact that like that is the real enemy and it's just frustrating that the only side that is able to do anything about it or willing to do anything about it are the fascists like because the the center is yeah but they yeah real broken Yeah. Real broken clock behavior going on with Mr. Ron. Yeah. For sure. But they'll see that this is popular, and I'm assuming maybe catch on, maybe not.

I don't know. But people are speculating the timing of his big move to fuck with Disney isn't coincidental because he has a new book coming out on Tuesday, The Courage to be free oh jesus i think there has to be 500 books by fascists titled that already like i feel like you gotta really that's not gonna that's not even gonna stand out on the fascist shelf from this year if you call like if your book has the word free in it baby it should be free

and it's like pretty standard like what like i feel like if you just asked me to write this book on like in an afternoon it sounds like it's what i would come up with like it's he's 100 he's railing against elites who taught him at y and Harvard Law School. So it's like, he's a student at Yale and Harvard Law School. And he's like, these elites, you know, he uses the word elite 20 times in 12 pages. But I think the thing that a lot of people are surprised by is that he devotes an entire chapter to excusing the fact that he got married in disney world like i think that could be a whole that could be a whole other book of of explaining why the hell he did that why the hell he did that right has he offered any explanations

yeah you'll be shocked to learn that he blames it all on his wife and that's so out of character for such a person as him it's woman history month Ron I'm struggling to believe it struggling I really can't yeah I mean he is truly pure evil and I'm very afraid of him and also

I can totally imagine him being like well you know my wife my little princess had to get married at the castle. Like, eat shit, man. He did. This is the direct quote. Casey's family was what one might call a family of Disney enthusiasts. They loved going to Disney World.

Like saying someone is what one might call like that's never not condescending or like dismissive. That sentence is wearing a fucking fedora. It is nowhere near the only thing one might call those people. Yeah, of course.

One could call them a variety of things and I'm glad he did explain for his the people that are going to be buying the book who won't know what enthusiast means. He's got to explain that. He said they love going where the big three circle make a mouse.

I really hope this turns into a very low-grade embarrassing thing for him. Someone has 5,000 pictures of Ron DeSantis enthusiastically hugging Goofy at the box. And they're like someone has 5 000 pictures of ron desantis enthusiastically hugging goofy at the box and they're like weird you said you weren't really into that wild yes like you know some disney like like a crew member definitely snapped some pics

in the tunnels he does claim that he had one stipulation that was that like there couldn't be any Disney characters at the wedding ceremony. But there's no word about like. His friend Scooby would be so pissed. His bedroom. Yeah. The bedroom, the wedding bedroom. Didn't say anything about the bachelor party. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, my God. He had to get Goofy involved to get interested. Of course. Getting. Yeah. He to get Goofy involved to get interested. Of course. He definitely got Goofy. Got Goofy with his wife. He got Goofy with it. I do feel like if you are working at Disney World

and Ron DeSantis gets on Expedition Everest, if you work there, you're allowed to make the rollercoaster crash. You're allowed to fall asleep at the control. You're allowed to fall asleep at the control. You're allowed to remove a section of track. Okay, you can take it off. You can do a little detour.

Just let it go straight off the deep end. For sure. He's riding Haunted Mansion. He doesn't come out. Then he becomes a little ghost. He becomes part of it. It will make you so much more profitable. Not only will your taxation problems

go away at Disney, but you'll have a legit haunted mansion. And ghost law is so much more lenient. So that's huge. That is huge. So he was just, according to him, just being a dutiful groom

to be until now when he just threw his wife and her family under under under the tram. Yeah. In print forever. So like it's so for him to be kind of playing coy about like, I guess getting married at Disney is a thing that people do. It's like, if you are a Floridian human being, you know at least one million people who have gotten married at Disney. If you've been to Disney, you've seen people getting married on Goofy's Barnstorm Rollercoaster.

And it's like, people talk all day long about wanting to get married at Disney. So many people we grew up with were like, I'm going to go ahead and be doing that. And being a Disney adult, it's a Florida staple. I feel like growing up, I, we had friends who went all like every month to Disney. And then I was like, that's, I was talking to my mom one day and I was like, it's so crazy. Cause it's like, we like never went to Disney and all our friends were wearing all the time. And she was like, we literally went once a year.

I was like, period, for sure. And I remembered that. And I remember that. And I remember it for real. But yeah, no, it's like if you're in Florida, you're going to go ahead and know that people are chomping at the bit to get married in Mickey's lap. So I mean, it's like the concept of like Disney adult. I feel like it's like that like term has been coined, I guess, sort of recently. But it's like been a thing for as long as the park.

Oh, yeah. I had an aunt. Oh, I she's still alive. But her house like it's I was I was seven and it frightened me the amount of items and things that were there. And I mean I mean, look, I like going to Disney world when I go, I'm smiling.

Yeah. Happiest magical place. Yeah. Literally dreams come true. I'm going to go ahead. Good hot dogs there. The turkey, the turkey legs, the freaking turkey legs.

I'm be grinning when this is happening. I'll get married at the turkey leg stand. Yeah. As far as I'll go. I'll marry a turkey leg'll get married at the turkey leg stand yeah that's as far as i'll go i'll marry a turkey leg i'll marry a turkey leg i can eat a whole one of those when i was three years old and that's normal for a person to do and yeah no it's healthy that and an eight foot gator is how you know yeah of course disney adult is as old as time. And it's seeming to DeSantis seems to be a Disney adult himself and kind of being shy about it. Undercover Disney adult.

You know, he's got some ears hidden away somewhere for sure. Oh, yeah. Well, we can't in good faith hand it to Ron DeSantis ever under any circumstances. But I am. I am. I like that that precedent is being set i hate that it's being set by a fascist that makes my head hurt absolutely yeah and clearly it has like to do with very complicated feelings he has and like spurned like they did they wouldn't do the thing that he wanted

they wouldn't let him like wear the prince the actual like screenaccurate Prince Eric costume to sing A Whole New World. That's the wrong movie, I think. He didn't get to select a princess as his bride. That's true. That's true. Damn. All right.

I mean, Havana Syndrome, there's not much new to report other than that an intelligence report is drawing the same conclusion that we've drawn on this show. That is that like this weird thing where they were like, we're being attacked by sound weapons. Our CIA agents in Cuba are being attacked by invisible sound weapons. And now they all have vertigo and have like can't function that it was actually like a psychogenic like type mass hysteria is like one way that people describe it. But like they're they study this. It's called a function disorder, a functional disorder.

It's like there is an entire medical field to it. There was a New York Times article in 2019 that was like, this is what it is. Like we've talked to experts. It's definitely this functional disorder where like the same thing that has caused outbreaks of sickness from the beginning of time where it's like confusing but it seems like one person is experiencing symptoms then everybody suddenly starts experiencing them it can make you sick they're not consciously making it up it's just a thing that is not being caused by invisible science fiction weapons but they like all the coverage of it just leaves the functional disorder part out and they're just like we don't know what happened guys and so they just keep bringing it up and then

not explaining what actually happened so i think it's very confusing to people yeah it it in in my in my googling tins of it i was like every single piece it's like yeah there's all this research that kind of explains this phenomenon of mass hysteria kind of caused by this like you know everybody believing something so hard that it makes them physically sick uh but it also could be kind of a bit of a laser or kind of something like yeah they're literally like a laser beam. The use of the word beam, lots of beams. Lots of beams causing stuff.

A few dudes had a headache in Cuba and now we're being attacked by aliens. It's like kind of they're like Russia's got their beams on us and so now my tummy hurts. It also is this, it may be a radical oversimplification and an inspiring stupidification of of this of what we're actually

talking about is it sort of akin to what we've been seeing hate to bring it back to tiktok love to bring it back to tiktok is it akin to what we've been seeing where sort of anti-vax creators will be posting videos of their feet shaking and be like thanks Pfizer like is it kind of is it like and then probably in some way because I think that some of those people are like I feel like a lot of them are just doing a little fancy footwork and saying look thanks Pfizer and I'm not denying I'm not denying that these people in Cuba had headaches. I would never deny that. I would never want to say that I have a headache and then a whole nation say, no, you don't actually have a headache. It is a horrible position that they're in.

Like, that's what sucks about this is like nobody who has ever had a functional disorder is like glad to hear that diagnosis to be like no by the way by the way you're making it all up yes yeah but yeah i i'm sure a lot of the people who are suffering the vaccine sin you know side effects that we see on tiktok believe what they're feeling you know like believe that what they're having is from vaccines and yeah they're doing they're they definitely think that they don't they're a lot of them there are definitely people that are just putting on a show doing the doing the vaccine shuffle but then there's definitely doing the stanky like but there there's definitely people who uh yeah just like get so worked up they're just trembling yeah i'm sure it's like they work themselves into these people who are like you know probably not super over familiar with the intricacies of their

own mental illness and how to handle it they're like they probably work themselves into a panic attack and then their legs their legs are shaking yeah because right you know classy which is like makes the internet the worst possible place to even address any of this because like there's just no way to yeah to like with any sort of nuance or care address like because it's just a bunch of people that are like you're you're losing it like you're yeah yeah it's like a bit of a rock and a hard place because it's like oh the everything about this it's like either you have a mental disorder so strong it's making you physically sick and it's coming from within or you're being attacked by a beam it's like either either you are batshit cuckoo bananas and can't change or there are lasers pointed directly at you it's like what and you're like turning to tiktok for assistance

like it's just very bleak it's very yeah no yeah it's also it's so clearly it's so clearly the opposite of like what the i guess like people who are on the right at large are like tiktok is manufacturing mental illnesses and selling them to our teens and like doodly doodly like there's like a section a faction of like you know creators on the right dare i say alt that are like saying that there is like a from studies that don't exist there's like tourette's is up 80 000 because it's there's like they're they're blaming tiktok creators with Tourette's for inspiring other people to pretend that they have it and then thusly have like created this whole narrative around like maybe it's not even real maybe it's

like you know they're they're giving each other mental illness through the internet and it's like that's also what they're doing the calls coming back for some function functional disorder like specify that it's neurological it's not like a mental illness per se. It's like a neurological condition that gets locked into the pathways neurologically. But they also... The New York Times article

that came out four years ago that the New York Times has proceeded to ignore has the smoking gun... smoking gun really on a roll yeah yeah they're really killing it these days they said airpods in rolled out man they have so many viral viral hits they do it's but they have the smoking gun that the people like if they had like gotten hit by like a physical weapon like at the time that they said they discovered it like their brain would have healed from the physical injury by now and like the thing that

is always like you can tell by a function dysfunctional disorder is that they last for a really long time because like there's no way to really heal it because it is like locked into your brain pathways like the way that an addiction would be. So it's like the fact that it's not healing itself the way an injury would. Is the thing that like lets you know. Okay this is what it is. But again they just don't give that very kind of clear. And really like interesting.

Much more interesting than the story of like you know space lasers that we don't know about, which I guess that's pretty interesting. But it also like tells you about like how immensely powerful the unconscious mind is and like how much medicine is like just tapping into this vast like, you know, universe of information about how much like the mind body connection but it's just it's also the least profitable part of medicine and it is profitable to create panic that we need to invest in the pentagon's ability to invent invisible space laser yeah like a brain shield i'm like i'm sure i'm gonna see someone on the internet being like everyone in 20 years will have to wear a helmet keeping russia out of our head or like whatever yeah there's like doofy doof yeah it's like it's of course it's a little yeah like in theory sure if if there was any information at all like that was concretely like pointing to what i believe one of the articles may have referred to as a worldwide ultrasonic weapon hello then sure to read all about it but they just keep combining different sci-fi phrases i'm like that's creative but yeah but but the other stuff is like actually for real. It's also like goof, goofily vintage.

Like it's giving like 1700th, like be afraid of the sky. Yes. Yeah. And these studies are coming. The studies where they're like, yeah, sorry,

we didn't find anything are coming from the people who have the most interest in this being true. You know, the fucking pentagon and we screamed at the sky for hours they did not respond many times was must we as a nation learn to like not listen to the studies that the cia releases it's like they're just i thought you were gonna say how why haven't we learned not to listen to the sky i'm like this guy is trying to tell us something no every time oh i mean like this

honestly this story did confuse me and ultimately i was like if someone offered to put a wi-fi router in my leg i would let them yeah it's like challenging like challenging. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the back and forth of it all is like, yeah, there was sources saying that they can't not, not, not. Right.

Disprove that it isn't a laser beam from space, but it's like, come on. This is like, yeah, this has given me Havana syndrome. This loop de loop of logic and then they'll just end it with like yeah they're not not not doing this p.s russia and like that's the

only thing that people remember xoxo goof goof goof well sabina annabelle such a pleasure having you on the daily zeitgeist uh where can people find you guys follow you all that good stuff our our show's instagram is at triplet auditions and then separately we are sabina lily and annabelle's arms and legs because her initials yeah spell arm um oh that's a little insider info yes yeah stay tuned for info about our our new york and la screenings of our short film which are going to be coming up. Yeah. Hell yeah. Can't wait to have you back on to talk about it.

Is there a work of media, social media, any media that you've been enjoying? I have been enjoying there. Shakira made a diss track about her ex and I've been loving it and eating it up. So that's, I don't want to take up too much time with the lore of that, but do you guys know how she discovered her husband was cheating?

No. Okay. Well, so there was a jar of strawberry jam. It all starts with a jar of jam. And a jar of jam. And her husband doesn't like that jam at all. And she was away from the house. Her kids also don't like the jam. Her kids also don't like the jam.

Her kids also don't like the jam. Confirmed. Jam is in the house. Shakira is away from the jam and the house and the husband and whatnot. She comes back. Wow. Jam is tampered. The jam is tampered.

Jam is tampered. And she literally said, who's the whore? And then she said, jam is tampered. Who's the wh whore and then she wrote a song about it's amazing it's amazing so many good lyrics fucking amazing detective work by shakira well yeah i was like if i were as like wealthy as shakira i don't know that i would be so in touch with like jar to jar in my home like i was surprised that she was even that in touch

with her own jars. That's so real. If I lived completely alone and a jar that was once full became empty, I'd be like, I did this in my sleep. Period. I went a little feral and I must have gotten hungry and that's why the peanut butter's gone. I ate it with my hands in the middle of the night.

I'm surprised she's even opening her own jar. She was right. She was right. She was right. She was extremely bright. It was wild that she was right. Please, if ever, yeah, listen to the diss track.

There's like this DJ, and I don't know what the name is pronounced, but it's B-Z-R-P. So in my mind, I just call him Bzzrp. Bzzrp. And he does like these studio recording sessions with artists and stuff, the shakira one is really really really good and there's so many lines where she's like i'm better than two 22

year olds put together i make music i hope it doesn't splash you i don't even know sounds better but it's so good is that the are you are you are you hopping on my train and saying that that is the media that's tickling your pickle or do you have your very own no no to which one i close i close the computer um mine is simply a little it's more of a it's like a trend sort of situation that i've been seeing across socials and it is the trend in which uh there's sort of like a miss piggygyfication of an FKA Twigs song. It goes, why didn't I do it for you? And it's like the saddest. Yeah.

Yes. It's the saddest song in the entire world. And I am, I'm a Pisces. I'm mentally ill. I cannot listen to anything that is actually real. I need to be listening. I need to be like, I need to be a Miss Piggy, a Miss Piggy of separation away from any real emotional communication. So it's like, so it's this cover of the song sort of remastered to

instead serve as a dedication from Miss Piggy to Kermie. And it's so good. Why didn't I do it for you, Kermie? And it's hilarious. And it's usually juxtaposed over, you know, videos of things like wet stuffed animals or like a singular piece of corn on the ground or like something sort of sad. And that is just the perfect amount of separation. I like to be from actual heart wrenching art. And also it does sweeten the sweeten the tea a little bit that the original

song FKA twigs wrote about none other than Robert Pattinson. Robert, why didn't she do it for you? And he's listening. He's listening. He'll be winging it. Think about that, Robbie. So yeah, now every time I experience

even a minor inconvenience or God forbid a single raindrop fall, why didn't I do it for you, Kearney, is what's going on in my brain. And that's that. I highly recommend that. Amazing. Jamie, where can people find you? Is there media you've been enjoying? Yeah, Twitter at Jamie Loftus Help, Instagram

at Jamie Christ Superstar by Raw Dog comes out May 23rd. We gotta outsell DeSantos, folks. Every pre-order is a political statement. Yes. Yeah, that's, okay. The piece of media, I mean, it's old.

It's analog. But I was looking for, I was supposed to be making a list of 25 books I've read, which is, because I've only read like seven. So I was kind of grasping at straws and I was looking at the books around my house and I found this. I've not cracked this one yet, but I do remember buying it. It's definitely self-published and I got it at the first McDonald's location ever, which is like about an hour and a half from here, which I made someone drive me there on Valentine's Day a

couple of years ago. Oh my God. But the book, really incredible. I'll send a picture of it as well because it's just so good. It's written by the man who opened the Juan Polo chicken restaurant, whatever, empire. But it's called Albert Okura, The Chicken Man with a 50-Year Plan, Life Lessons Learned. And it's self-published. It's the story of his life. I don't really know what the story of his life is, but I invested in it at the time.

I apparently paid $17 for it. A steal. Assuming that I would get around to it and there would come a day where I had time to sit down with Mr. Okura, the chicken man with a 50-year plan. That day hasn't come, but I'm excited about it. There's a lot of pictures in this book.

Oh, love it. A very notable photo is, dare I say, the cover on which he is wearing the dopest pair of shades you've ever seen. Oakleys, yeah. He's wearing, like, Oakleys and has his arms crossed in, like, a black Under Armour polo. Of course, you can't let them know.

Over like no less than 12 rotisserie chickens. Thank God. It's just awesome. There's 40 fonts. I just love self-publishing. There's a lot. There's a lot of fonts. There's simply so many fonts that rocks.

Yeah, I love that. That's inspiring. Yet another. Me, Mr. Okura, Ron DeSantis, all authors. Oh, and it's signed wow and would you look at that amazing yeah so i'll recommend the value just skyrocketing all you got to do is put a ghost into it and sell it on etsy for eighty thousand dollars of course and it's forty two 42 at least yeah at least positive spirit

yeah that's awesome uh tweet i've been enjoying tom walker tweeted getting so tangled in the video store adults only bead curtain they have to shoot me in the head like a broke leg horse like a broke leg horse that really rocks that really takes me back to like our grand like our friend's grandma's exotic animal farm like a broke leg horse a broke leg horse what's more exotic than a broke okay yeah brokeback mountain no broke leg horse gonna go ahead and be broke like horse that's the oh i'm just gonna be walking around my house all day saying broke like horse i love it feels like it could be like a improv troops name right yes yeah yes that is a rancid group of 21 year olds yeah you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily

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enjoy on this March 2nd afternoon? This is a track I came across while listening to the psychedelic rock band black rabbit who i recommended like a week ago this is a song that begs the question do you feel high it's a very cool vibe it's very reminiscent of like a tame impala track but has a california twist to it this sounds like cruising the streets on a bike or like lawn boarding uh you know on the road type of music so this is the track called do you feel high by pink skies oh and you can find literally beg that question oh yeah no yes yes it's called do you feel high i mean i was all right

there's a building how much clearer do i have yeah you guys have to trust me i'm building a narrative here um this is a song called do You Feel High by Pink Skies. And you can find that song in the footnotes. Footnotes? Wait, you guys. You guys. Albert Okura died last month. Oh, no.

Oh, shit. Four went out for him. Sorry. The chicken man with the 20th, 50th year plan? He lived 71 years. Wait, but that means you could put his ghost in the book. Yes. That's.

Oh, no. Finish the plan. R.I.P. Mr. Okura. Oh, plan RIP Mr. Okura RIP to a real one RIP Rest in Poultry sorry about it he would have loved that he would have loved it alright well the Daily Zeitgeist

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