The Daily Zeitgeist - Digital Book Burning, Snow White Lives Matter 03.20.25

Episode Date: March 20, 2025

In episode 1832, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and host of Never Scene It, Kyle Ayers, to discuss… Web Site Scrubbing Is The New Book Burning, Donald Trump’s Vision For The K...ennedy Center Is Even Worse Than We Thought: It Involves CATS, The Biggest Snow White Controversy Is That Walt Disney Was A Dick and more! Jackie Robinson’s Army career wiped from military website in DEI purge War heroes and military firsts are among 26,000 images flagged for removal in Pentagon’s DEI purge Trump visits Kennedy Center for 1st time since installing himself as chair Elvis, ‘Cats’ and Babe Ruth: Chairman Trump Reimagines the Kennedy Center Why Disney is hooked on remaking its animated classics ‘Snow White’ First Reactions Praise Film as a ‘Visual Feast’ and One of Disney’s ‘Best Live-Action Remakes in Years’ Inside Disney’s ‘Snow White’ Troubles: “They Need to Get This Over With” The Many, Many Controversies Leading Up to Disney’s Live-Action Snow White, Explained Gal Gadot’s Walk of Fame Ceremony Disrupted by Confrontation Between Pro-Palestine and Pro-Israeli Demonstrators, Police Respond Why Disney’s Snow White Remake Is Creating Controversy The Daily Wire Is Making A Live-Action Snow White Movie Starring Conservative YouTuber Brett Cooper, Watch Teaser Controversial ‘Snow White’ Remake Canceled After Lead Actress Departs Snow White Speaks Did Disney blacklist the voice actress for Snow White? LISTEN: J-Funk by Bodikhuu Listen to Kyle Ayers comedy album Happiness out now! WATCH: The Daily Zeitgeist on Youtube! L.A. Wildfire Relief: Displaced Black Families GoFund Me Directory See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So it's a movie that invented the idea of recruiting internationally for collegiate basketball and going to freaky places like Africa. It's a classic, man. It is one of the least convincing actors playing an athlete performances that you'll ever see. Kevin Bacon as a like Legendary Hooper. Yeah with a with a fucking knee brace that would give you a panic attack. It's so Buckling yeah Yeah, I can't believe I've never heard of this what is this trailer?
Starting point is 00:00:41 Uh-oh, I just that's the 32nd version of the air up there. What he found will play basketball games. We bet all our life is a tribe who needed his help. You will be our coach. Together, they're about to play the game of their lives. No, I forgot about this. I forgot that he wears war paint into the. Oh, wow. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Yeah, that was hard to stomach. All bad. Up there. It's just me cornering Adam Sandler to get that he, to admit that he ripped that movie off with that European guy basketball movie he made. Right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:23 You ripped off the air up there. They're up there. Up there. By making it not explicitly racist. Yeah, man. Yeah. Stick to the source material. That was the thing that was cool about it. The air up there.
Starting point is 00:01:38 That's why Snow White is good. Because it was white supremacist. The Spanish guy should have been made of jamón. You can't spell Snow White without no whites. Thank you. And that's what we're talking about. I read the doc. Without no whites.
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Starting point is 00:04:20 Deadly Sight, guys! Yeah! It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness. It is Thursday, March 20th, 2025. Yep. I guess, is today, is spring, is it springing? Is it sprung, Miles?
Starting point is 00:04:37 I think is today spring begins, maybe? It's also National- On March 20th, you get sprung! You get sprung you guess It's also was national ravioli day national native HIV AIDS awareness day And here's one night no one y'all just leave this alone national ravioli day. Shout out to Ghostface. Oh, yep Yep, national spray tanning day Leave it alone. Leave it alone
Starting point is 00:05:02 Yeah, I say go out there and get it. No, Jack, your hands looked a mess last week. I know. Don't tell anybody. I'm sorry, I had to do it now. I had to make it public. Splotchy as hell. Looked like a henna tattoo gone awry. Johnny verse splotchy over here.
Starting point is 00:05:23 My name is Jack O'Brien, AKA, let's see here. When I was just a baby, my mama told me, son, always listen to teachers and with scissors, you don't run. But I shot a spitball in the homeroom just to watch it fly. When I hear I want it that way, I hang my head and cry. That is courtesy of David Lesser on the Discord. Okay, David Lesser. David Lesser, the Lesser of Two Davids.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Yeah. In reference to the time that I missed live performance of the Backstreet Boys because I was in detention. And the Backstreet Boys were touring public schools in Lexington, Kentucky for some reason. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Hell yeah, man. I probably built that following.
Starting point is 00:06:08 Got it. Plant those seeds, man. Yep, exactly. Thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray, K. Never made it in some seed oil. Couldn't cut it as a health food frying. Tired of living like a soy boy.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I'm sick of cooking without something fattening This is how you must fry me and beef tallow now This is how you must fry me Beef tallow now. Okay. Shut up to J space. Shout out to the Canadians. You know what I mean? Shut up nickel bag. We don't we don't need a 51st state. You have your own country. Keep it that way. Great.
Starting point is 00:06:49 That's so nice of you, miles to say that to the look. I guys, I hear your own country. I think that that's what I'm just trying to go to Canada and not have people pull up on me because I'm American. Well, I'll just say I'm Japanese at that point. Cause I can speak Japanese and I'll just do it. Yeah. We, we need Canada to remain its own country.
Starting point is 00:07:07 So we have a thing to say, a place to say we're from when we're in other countries. Yeah. When we're in Europe. Exactly. We're back in the Bush years when that was the popular refrain if you ever went to Europe during the Iraq war and they're like, Hey, are you fucking American? Huh? What does your, no one's seen this kind of. Yeah, yeah, are you fucking American? Huh? What does your no way.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Yeah. I mean, yeah. Uh, miles we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests. He's a very funny standup comedian, writer, actor, producer, creator of boast rattle, a compliment contest. Uh, never seen it. A podcast where famous comedians rewrite classic movies they've never seen. Uh, you can and should go stream his special happiness.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Uh, he'll be doing his show hard to say in New York and Brooklyn in April. Welcome back to the show. It's the hilarious Kyle. I'm always afraid to be loud. I know. Cause my headphones are too hot. Thank you for having me. Sorry. Was I, was I coming in too hot?. I know, it's okay. Get loud. On my microphone, because my headphones are too hot. Thank you for having me. Sorry, was I coming in too hot?
Starting point is 00:08:07 No, no, you're not. My head is? Zoom will duck all audio. It loves to duck. I like hearing about what you guys talked about previous days when I hear your nicknames leading into this one. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Like as this was about existing things. What was it? Steak and Shake, right? Yeah, Steak and Shake. They were there like, we're frying our fries and beef tallow, not seed oils, because no more woke fast food. I like when a company tells me they're no longer woke is how I'm reminded they
Starting point is 00:08:34 still exist. Did you hear Hollywood video is no longer woke? Right, right, right. Lion's choice is no longer woke. Like damn, lion right. Lion's Choice is no longer woke. You're like, damn, Lion's Choice. You are gonna believe. Yeah, I haven't thought about Steak and Shake in not even this or the last decade.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Very reasonable. Do we even have a Steak and Shake in California? It's massive in Missouri. When I lived in Missouri. That's why I said Lion's Choice also. Yeah, yeah. I had up another Missouri state. But I think they're still there. Like I remember when I lived in Missouri for a couple of years, like being, I
Starting point is 00:09:08 was like, Oh man, steak and shake is the fast food of the state. Well, you need to have a sit down restaurant. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was like the steak and shake, like Roy Rogers in New Jersey, you know, Roy Rogers is just still in New Jersey. Like it never left.
Starting point is 00:09:24 They have, they still have Roy Rogers. Yeah. Yeah. Holy shit. Roy Rogers still haunts the garden state parkway. All right. Like more than any other fast food outlet is Roy Rogers. I mean, the steak and shake had its thing going for a little while.
Starting point is 00:09:39 You know, I was going, I'm from Missouri and going to school there and like people, it was like where you could go. You could go to this. I don't know if the prices are the same. I imagine the quality has gone down. I'm basing that off nothing. And I know I'm correct. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Well, you're from Missouri. So it doesn't matter. These takes are a lot like Missouri. The prices might not have changed, but the quality has gone down. It's funny because yeah, I had two fast food revelations when I dated someone whose parents lived in Missouri and that was was Lion's Choice and Steak and Shake, but this was in 2005, and I was like, whoa, this shit's different.
Starting point is 00:10:10 And I was like, and because it's not the jack in the box, Taco Bell, Del Taco, or In-N-Out, McDonald's, this is impressive to me. The bar was kind of low. You couldn't believe other food could be made fast until you were before you grew up. Yeah, it was like- This is the hero's journey, but it's G Y R O.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I've always thought, yeah, like calling hamburger, fast food, hamburger steak. Is like, definitely it's aspirational, but it's kind of an aspirational way. That's like off-putting because it's like, you're, you're just reminded of the fact that this is you're already a burger you're eating a burger that's not really like a degraded version of the word that's describing it yeah yeah it's like too much it's almost like sarcastic like the sure as opposed to aspirational anyways i'll tell you what's not sarcastic me saying i'm thrilled to have you here k Kyle. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I need to say before I get, before I forget that I was in Edinburgh last August at the fringe festival, I was there just long enough to say the name of the city, right? And I, uh, uh, site gang came to my show. Yeah. So people came and they were like, we're here, uh, because we love the daily site guys and we love you on there. And I'm like, that's insane.
Starting point is 00:11:25 I love to hear that. Were they from Scotland? I couldn't understand what they're saying. Shout out UK Zeitgeist. Yeah. Somewhere in the UK. Somewhere in the UK. It's funny.
Starting point is 00:11:39 Yeah. That Scotland seems to have, you know, I'm not making, I'm making wide brush cultural references, but Scotland seems to have little, little sibling syndrome to the England of the UK. And when you're in Edinburgh for the French festival, you're kind of as a circus that is not indicative of how a city actually is in its regular life. You know, you go, if you go to Coachella during Coachella, it's not the same as if you go there, right. You go there right now and you're like, Oh, it's just mostly both Denny's.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Right. It's a little bit different of an energy. Denny's golf golf courses and some date shakes. I love California specifically your EDM tents. Right. The airstrip you guys built for this weekend. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Right. Uh, but it was incredible. And I mean, it was not, it was like a few times through a sprinkled that people after the shows would be like, I came here and was incredible and I mean it was not it was like a few times through a sprinkle that people after the shows Okay, I came here inside gang and I'm here for this long and I came and I'm like, that's so cool So I have to say hello to them from here Like yeah, yeah some of the best podcast fans other side of the world The fucking best the best yeah It's just weird for me to acknowledge that we have the best fans because our show is a second rate podcast.
Starting point is 00:12:46 Yeah, it's true. Yeah. It has nothing to do with you, Zeitgang. Me saying some of the best when you are in fact the best is just- That's his inability to- Yeah, my inability to be like, we have nice things. Well, you have some of the best and then you also have the remainder of the best. All of the best we do have. Together, all of the best.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Not even a way to know what that group would be. You know what I mean? You'll never walk alone. But I'm always happy to be here and find out what I've searched on Google. Always an adventure. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're talking about the website scrubbing and history rewriting that is happening. The dumb cultural revolution, like the shitty cultural revolution that Trump is doing right now where he's changing, going onto the websites, probably not personally with his own hands, but his administration.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Not allowed to have black metal of honor recipients. You got, you got to get rid of those. And there's no way Trump's doing it with this. Like that man could not solve a capture code in a week. No, I can't even fucking type. He has that for identifying sidewalks. He's got that assistant who types everything for him. The person who prints everything for him.
Starting point is 00:14:04 He was so blown away by that Tesla car because he had never sat behind the wheel of a car. You got this big round guy here. What do you do with this? What do you do with this? It's very short. Where's the middle part where you don't have to talk to the driver? We'll talk about that and also his vision for the Kennedy center.
Starting point is 00:14:25 Cause he's taken over that part of culture as well. He wants to, he wants to be the Kennedy center guy. The, uh, and we'll talk about, uh, Snow White, which is coming out. The, the Walt Disney one, not the, uh, daily wire one. I hadn't really checked in with this since they released a trailer and then Ben Shapiro was like, Oh yeah, check out our snow white. And it looked like shit. And, uh, so we have an update on the bench Shapiro one and we also have an
Starting point is 00:14:51 update on the Disney one. Yeah. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Kyle, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay. I got, I, it's hard.
Starting point is 00:15:02 I took my last two things that weren't just sort of like, uh, uh, what time is it? And, uh, one is, uh, shortening work in empanada dough recipe question mark. And I'm doing, I'm, I'm, I'm making empanadas today, but I'm doing it in, uh, the most Missouri way possible. I'm using pot pie filling. Nice. Oh, so we made some pot pie from scratch and we had leftover filling that froze and now it's thawing and I thought it'd be fun to put them in empanadas. Yeah. It's like a, um, my, my girlfriend's parents are visiting from Missouri.
Starting point is 00:15:37 So I'm like, this is your transitory food. Right. We'll be pot pie in an empanada. So you can, I'll let you visually transition and tastefully remain home. Right. Like homemade pot pockets. And I was like, I can't get,
Starting point is 00:15:50 I don't know if I have time to go get lard, but I have shortening leftover. Can I use that instead of butter? Anyway, so that was the first thing. Turns out yes. And the second thing is, I don't know if you ever find like a new way to just cry for a little bit, like where you're like,
Starting point is 00:16:03 this is, you know, when you get into a new note, I've been playing a lot of Dungeons and Dragons. I've been running a lot of campaigns and doing this. I Googled montage of D&D campaign finales. Oh wow. And so I just watched for like an hour people finishing their D&D campaigns, like their last session.
Starting point is 00:16:19 Like down to the wire? Yes, like 10 years of playing one story. And this is like the summation of the story. Or like people playing for like five or six years every week. So it's like I'm Googling the end of a 180 hour movie. Right, right, right. Wow. And just watching sort of the denouement
Starting point is 00:16:35 of these people's emotional, I don't know anything about the story or the characters, but it's just people sitting around a table crying about something. And it's like emotionally affecting because they're so kind of overpowered by the moment. Yeah. So I don't know what it says about me. And I'm certainly not going to pay, ask the person I pay to tell me.
Starting point is 00:16:53 And that I'm like eliciting emotional response with this very distant, very obvious wall. I don't know any of these people. I don't know what the story is, but I'm seeing them have to say goodbye to something that's years and years and years long. Right. Yeah. I actually, it's so funny you say that last night, I saw a clip of a guy like Timbaland, the producer has this thing called a beat club that he would do on Twitch where users submit their own music and Timbaland, the fucking like one of
Starting point is 00:17:18 the goat producers listens to it and it's like, no next, or sometimes he really likes it and this one instance, there was this Maude producer from New Zealand who had a beat come up. And it's just his reaction to watching Timbaland be like, yo, stop, stop. He's like, what the fuck? Play this shit again. Timbaland is loving it. And this guy's just like so overcome because he's just like, Timbaland is fucking with it. And I was like, you go on, man.
Starting point is 00:17:43 I love it. I love it. You keep putting it, bro. Things happening to people. I don't even have any people. Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful. I feltbaland is fucking with it. And I was like, you go on, man. I love it. You keep winning, bro. I love that stuff, things happening to people. I don't need to have any people. Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful. I felt like I was co-opted. I think I was like hijacking someone else's success story, but in a weird way, I was like,
Starting point is 00:17:54 I'm feeling it too. Yeah. It might be the state of things that were like, I was Googling joy and I was surprised. Right. I was surprised by how it made me feel inside. Or that there were results. Right, right, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:09 Well, we're all in charge of our own news feeds now, so we just have to do the fun human interest story at the end for ourselves. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I absolutely have been loved doing it. And I love playing D&D and doing all that. And I've just really enjoyed what I'm sort of coming to the mid point of what will be a year's long campaign and seeing this like summation and wow, it's been nice.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And how like, are these old friends that you've like played D&D with for a long time? Oh yeah. Rando's man. Just Rando's. I have been running some campaigns for Rando's and can be hired to do it. And it's very fun. If you guys want me to run a campaign, DM me. All right.
Starting point is 00:18:47 You guys like it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I actually might need to reach out to you about that. Yeah. Kyle, what is something you think is underrated?
Starting point is 00:18:55 Okay. This is going to sound odd. It's Facebook. Uh, it is Facebook. It is Facebook, not for anything having to, Facebook seems to exist out of time. It's like if the whole world is arguing what time it is, Facebook is like, yeah, it's blue. Right?
Starting point is 00:19:12 Well, that doesn't even have anything to do with what time. And Facebook's like, no, we're all talking about if time is blue. It does not exist. The marketplace is the most wonderful thing you've ever seen. As it is wild. Yesterday, I bought a chessboard side table from a guy for
Starting point is 00:19:25 basically no money and I went to his house and all he does is sell stuff and there are mannequins in the yard. There's people selling their own art and you're just like, I saw an art piece that was called Two and then the next one was called The Little Boy and they looked at this and I'm just like, what's happening? There's no rules. And then I get, when you get an ad, you can look at the comments and there's just an overwhelming amount of people not knowing what's going on. And then I get, when you get an ad, you can look at the comments and there's just an overwhelming amount of people not knowing what's going, it's, it is, it is chaos. It is.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I get, uh, I'm a chiefs fan. And so I see Taylor Swift posts on my Facebook and so it'll be some picture of Taylor Swift and the comments will just be like, her shoulders look different now. And I'm like, from like an 80 year old guy who's married and I'll just go and look and I'm like, what is happening? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like no one knows everyone can see this.
Starting point is 00:20:10 No one knows that your name is associated. Everyone acts like it's anonymous and it's the only non-anonymous social media. Yeah, yeah. Still, yeah. It is wonderful. Like just trying to get stuff into our new place, like just trying to refurnish things.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Like we're not trying to buy a ton of stuff and get like certain things that you can't find or whatever. And there's so much, we got so many plants from people on Facebook. Oh yeah. Gigantic plants. They're like, I don't know, 20 bucks. I'm like at a nursery, this is like a $500 plant.
Starting point is 00:20:37 It is crazy. They're like, just get it out of my house. It thrives off of the idea that we're all giving up. And so I play tennis and you can get nice tennis stuff. Cause there's, there's no shortage of rich kids quitting. Yeah. And so you can get nice stuff from rich kids quitting stuff all of the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:54 And everyone is quitting everything. So much baby stuff. We're probably a baby. Yeah. Yeah. At this point. Yeah. There's no rules.
Starting point is 00:21:03 There's people selling like churros and they'll be like, I'm on the, just come get a churro from my house that I'm making right now. I'm like, that's fucking awesome. It is. There's no rules. Facebook. While there is ever, you can get into whatever political debate with your friends you went to high school with anywhere. Other than that, the stuff that has nothing to do with anyone, you know, on Facebook is golden. Taylor Swift shoulder gate. Any picture of anyone and it will be the weird, everyone is their faces cropped.
Starting point is 00:21:32 Like it's a shot from Mr. Robot where they're like just stuck in a bottom corner. It's just some guy who has no idea. We can all see he has a wife and he'll just be like aging poorly on like a picture of like some actress or something that be like, what's going on? Martin Erickson from, from Wisconsin. You're all your information. They just got to Facebook and was like, this is good.
Starting point is 00:21:56 This is, this is the internet. I don't need to go anywhere else. And they never learned anything about how I saw my brother is moving up to Los Angeles and he's looking for a place. And I've been looking at apartments. I saw an ad for an apartment today that was like, this is nice. Blah, blah, blah. Parking do have to let you know someone died in here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:15 And I'm like, yeah, let me know that on Facebook, but it is, it's incredible. Maybe when I see the place and then be like, and you love it, right. Just so you know, full disclosure, how the windows are flapping shut on their own, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Thanks for ignoring the goo that comes out of the outlets that looks like blood. We don't, we still don't know what that is. Kyle, what's something you think's overrated?
Starting point is 00:22:35 Fucking robots, robots. Real robots. I hate them. I hate robots. You just watch Electric Age 2, man. Electric State or whatever. I'm like, I don't want you to have, I don't want anything that does two things. I, I don't like it.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I hate like when you see posts now that's like, well, we asked chat GPT what it thinks about, I don't care. Oh, I don't want to know. There's no value to that to me. It doesn't know words. I'm so tired of it all. Yeah. I want people to do stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:06 I don't want my car to have no driver in it. I, I am just tired. Yeah. I'm just tired. We, what if we didn't make any more of them? Yeah. No, every, anything. I think the rule of thumb now in our era feels like anything that keeps us away from
Starting point is 00:23:20 interacting with people is the devil. And we should be cast in a way because there's obviously like helpful methods and, and, and things that robots do that help people and everyone's abilities are limited in different ways. And there's positives to this, but generally, generally, I'm just like the robots that deliver food. I hate you. The, the every, everyone skirting and the shortcuts are, but this is all stemming from me just
Starting point is 00:23:45 seeing a bunch of stuff that's like, well, I asked, we asked chat GPT who should be president and it said, I don't care. It's not real. And so what if it agrees with you and what it's none of it. It's why are we giving it weight? Like it has an opinion, right? It's a calculator. The only word calculators should know is boobs upside down. Yeah. And other than that, go to hell. Go to opinion. Right. Right. Right. It's a calculator. The only word calculators should know is boobs upside down.
Starting point is 00:24:05 Yeah. And other than that, go to hell. Go to hell. Yes. Uh, drug wars for my TI 89 hackers. 82. I'm old. Other than that, I'm just like, I've had enough of the robots.
Starting point is 00:24:18 I've just, I'm sorry. I don't think we, they're even fine. We, they don't need equal weight to people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, those articles are such like, those are equal weight to people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, those articles are such,
Starting point is 00:24:26 like those are just coming from like chat GPT shill outlets. You just see whole sports articles that are all written by a robot. And you just like, you know, we can tell. I can tell when the art is the robot art. I don't know what you think is, you're not tricking anyone, it's a gradient. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Sorry, Mavs fans. The sports recaps have really been taken over by robots in a way that... I'm so tired. Oh, that and now they're just like, just summarizing body cam footage video and under like a true crime genre on YouTube. And it's like on March 18th, 2022, this man was like, it's they're just basically putting like chat GPTT AI narration over other videos and just making a ton. It's that whole when you Google something and it's like, hey, just so you know, now we lead off with incorrect misinformation and then we'll get to the links.
Starting point is 00:25:16 And I'm like, I don't know. I know I can turn it off. I don't want to. I don't want to have to take extra steps to stop a robot from telling me what to do. Yeah. Just use a different website? This episode is going to be how I die. Like this, I'll be in front of the robot tribunal and yeah, yeah, yeah. I listened to what he said three years and they'll be playing this back out of one of their stomachs. That's like the, did you see that?
Starting point is 00:25:37 I just, I don't know, just, I was fucking bored as shit. I was falling asleep, but I turned on that Chris Pratt movie, the electric state that was like a big flop on Netflix. And that whole premise is about the fucking robot wars and how like there had to be a truce between human and robot because they were going to rise up against the people. And there's like all this anti-robot. And I was just like, dude, this is so stupid.
Starting point is 00:25:56 I just turned it off. Anti-robot propaganda, like we're hearing from Kyle here. Yeah, yeah. Someone's shilling for you, Eddie. Yeah. Somebody was shilling for you, Eddie. Yeah. I was, somebody was saying that the robot car that drives you around Waymo, I think. Like they, I've never been in one and they're like, Oh, you gotta go in one.
Starting point is 00:26:18 And I was like, what's good about it? Other, like, I think it's slower. Aside from the gimmick. It's slower. And they're like, Oh, you know, like, you don't have to like talk to the driver. I was like that is that. Yeah. That's not that, that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:31 I understand that that is the thing that, that, that people have anxiety about. And ultimately it feels short-sighted to be like, I think that that we shouldn't remove that simply because, you know, I'm just like, I don't know. It's all, I don't know. I shouldn't have a job because, you know, I'm just like, I don't know, it's all, I don't know. I'm just like- That person shouldn't have a job because I don't wanna talk to them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I know that there are, every time I say anything on the internet, I'm like, I understand that there's three people who have specific limitations that this could really, really affect. And I just, I wanna earnestly be like, but I don't mean this for you. Like if you are, if you have something that is like really affecting you in a
Starting point is 00:27:07 real way, I ultimately, I just am so. I saw a Waymo stopped in Los Angeles because a guy laid on the hood and covered the cameras while it was at a light and it couldn't go anywhere. And the person had to sit in it and wait for this guy to get off it. Yeah. They do that. There's another thing I saw in like San Francisco, people were putting just traffic cones on the hood and that would just
Starting point is 00:27:25 completely fucking fry it and they're like, haha, bricked it. Yeah. I'm just so tired. I'm just so tired of everything being a robot. Yeah. No damn. Bro. I know you sound like the beginning of the electric state right now when they
Starting point is 00:27:38 do all this like cuddle with like the problem with the robots. This is all viral marketing for the electric state. Yeah. We're actually, we're rebooting it. We're doing a live action version of that live action movie. That's right. Live action or even live action. The robots are all played by people.
Starting point is 00:27:52 Liver action. Just cleaning it up a little bit. It's liver action. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about what's going on in the news. We'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:28:13 Prohibition. It's no secret that banning alcohol didn't stop people from living it up in the 1920s. When we're five years into Prohibition, the government is starting to go, okay, this isn't working. In fact, you might even say it backfired spectacularly. I'm Ed Helms and on season three of my podcast Snafu, we're taking you back to the 1920s and the tale of Formula 6. Because what you probably don't know about Prohibition is that American citizens were dying in massive numbers due to poisoned liquor and all along an unlikely duo was trying desperately to stop the corruption behind it. They were like superhero crusaders turning the page on a system that didn't work, wasn't fair, and was corrupt. So how did prohibitions' war on alcohol go so off the rails that the government wound up poisoning its own people?
Starting point is 00:29:00 To find out, listen and subscribe to Snafu on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Have you ever wondered if your pet is lying to you? Why is my cat not here? And I go in and she's eating my lunch. Or if hypnotism is real? We will use this suggestion in order to enhance your cognitive control. What's inside a black hole? Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Well, we have answers for you in the new iHeart original podcast, Science Stuff. Join me, Jorge Cham, as we tackle questions you've always wanted to know the answer to about animals, space, our brains, and our bodies. Questions like, can you survive being cryogenically frozen? This is experimental. This means never work for you. What's a quantum computer? It's not just a faster computer. It performs in a fundamentally different way. being cryogenically frozen. This is experimental. This means never work for you. What's a quantum computer?
Starting point is 00:29:46 It's not just a faster computer. It performs in a fundamentally different way. Do you really have to wait 30 minutes after eating before you can go swimming? It's not really a safety issue. It's more of a comfort issue. We'll talk to experts, break it down, and give you easy-to-understand explanations to fascinating scientific questions. So give yourself permission to be a science geek and listen to Science Stuff on the iHeartVideo app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Mark Seale.
Starting point is 00:30:12 And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Canole. The five families did not want us to shoot that picture. Leave the Gun, Take the Canole is based on my co-host, Mark's best-selling book of the same title. And on this show, we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the Godfather's birth from start to finish. This is really the first interview I've done in bed.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Ha ha ha ha! We sift through innumerable accounts. I see 35 pages, isn't it, very much? Many of them conflicting. That's nonsense. There were 60 pages. And try to get to the truth of what really happened. And they said, we're finished. This is over.
Starting point is 00:30:46 They know it's not going to work. You gotta get rid of those guys. This is a disaster. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Kahn, Talia Shire, and many others. Yes, that was a real horse's head. Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Canole on the iHeart Radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:31:11 I am Bob Pitman, Chairman and CEO of iHeart Media. I'm excited to share my podcast with you, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. This week, I'm talking to the CEO of Moderna, Stefan Bansal, about how he led his team through unprecedented times to create, test, and distribute a COVID vaccine all in less than a year. It becomes a human decision to decide to throw by the window your business strategy and to do what you think is the right thing for the world.
Starting point is 00:31:40 Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math, and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to Math & Magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Yeah, yeah, Yeah. Yeah. And yeah. So we're, we're starting to hear some stories about things changing on government websites, stories, just getting slight updates. Yeah. Slight like little tweaks,
Starting point is 00:32:18 little adjustments, because they're doing away with DEI and you know, just a little, I am a student of history. So just, and I love to just compare everything to Nazis. Cause that's the thing to do right now. But again, these totalitarian regimes, they're very serious. Or as the German said about synchronizing German culture with Nazi ideology. It's a huge first step, meaning they wanted to purge the culture of ideas coming from the people they felt were quote, un-Germans from the people they felt were, quote, un Germans, those
Starting point is 00:32:46 Jewish authors, pacifist, socialist, communist, fucking Ernest Hemingway, fucking whoever, just just get it the fuck out if it's not completely in line with our white supremacy. And the path toward that synchronization was through book like book burnings, which a lot of people are seeing, have like, have seen those images, or you've seen Indiana Jones. And they basically because they want to control culture and history. You know, that's, that's the whole point.
Starting point is 00:33:10 And, you know, if people are so ground down and have no ideas to inspire them because of the lack of art or literature and things around them that's like, so inspires them that makes subordination to the regime much easier. And that's what the Nazis knew. And like, that's what we need to do. Let's, let's fucking really hammer that point in. And I think this- You gotta change the stories that people tell each other.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Exactly. To make meaning. Yeah. Exactly. And do away with any values that seem like they are going to be diametrically opposed or form any kind of like reasonable opposition to the regime.
Starting point is 00:33:39 So this is what we're seeing on a daily basis now in America, like Trump's controlling culture and history where there's like hijacking of the Kennedy Center and cutting off grants to higher ed and just deleting whole segments of U.S. history from agency websites. So in the last couple weeks, oh yeah, go on. Well, I think that Trump taking over the Kennedy Center
Starting point is 00:33:56 is a bad thing. Historically, I don't mind him being in more theaters. If... Just because you've heard that he enjoys theater. Yeah. Yeah. him being in more theaters. Just because you've heard that he enjoys theater. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:09 Right. Well, the historical precedent is there who I don't know of any modern actors. I think that could jump off a balcony and live, but we'll see. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see. Uh, but scars guards is nimble enough. He's definitely tall. They're tall enough. Probably tall enough to be able to like cut down on that impact.
Starting point is 00:34:25 But again, like the last couple of weeks, the DEI purge and the military has begun in terms of first just deleting thousands of images and like web pages for people like the Tuskegee airmen, uh, Native American code talkers, calling a black medal of honor winner from the Vietnam war, a DEI medal recipient. Um, calling a black medal of honor winner from the Vietnam War a DEI medal recipient. Um, when did that, like, did they, they just changed it to that on the website? Yeah. Like the web, the URL changed to DEI medal. That's like, they're just doing fucking dumb.
Starting point is 00:34:57 Can I say that sounds like the sickest genre of music? Oh, DEI medal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm metal. That sounds so metal, which generally is a very, you know, inclusive genre of music anyway. I this is another thing robots are doing. Yeah. And like even like recently, the most recent thing was like, just
Starting point is 00:35:17 real just deleting Jackie Robinson, like a page about Jackie Robinson's time in the arm for just like be like, nah, fucking get rid of it. They are so fucking stupid. They're just searching for shit like the word gay and deleting anything. And people noticed that included images of the fucking Enola Gay, which is the plane that dropped the bomb on Hiroshima.
Starting point is 00:35:38 They're like, he's got gay in it, it's gone. And like, I thought you like fucking would love to memorialize that moment. No? Okay. And again- Should've called it something else. Yeah, right, exactly. Should would love to memorialize that moment. No. OK. And again, it's something else. Yeah. I know the man, you know, the big, hard dick. There's only two bombs, two genders. That's it. That's it. Fat man and little boy.
Starting point is 00:35:58 The two genders. That man and little boy is like why Republican senators keep getting in trouble. But again, I think just like looking at all of this, the D like we all, and we've all seen this, this whole DEI purge, it's all again, their full frontal attack on our sense of like tolerance, equality, fucking rights. And, you know, some of these deletions have been restored due to public outrage. But again, like it's really troubling when you think about the, in the context, especially of world War Two, how
Starting point is 00:36:25 that was like that helped nudge America towards being slightly less racist when they're like, Wow, it's not just all white people that were like willing to die for this fucking place. Huh? Maybe there's something more of a wider truth about this place. But yeah, again, I just think it's very this this whole thing that they're doing now is like the lazy book burning thing where they just want to again completely erase any semblance of what how we look at the world and each other, but we shall see. This seems to be their, their, their favorite, uh, plan of attack at the moment. It's just a sneakily, just erase things.
Starting point is 00:37:14 It is rhetorically difficult because we've been comparing them to Nazis for a long time because they're doing Nazi shit, but like not openly Nazi shit. And now that they're doing it just openly, like in the most straightforward way, it's just like, yeah, I mean, they're, they are right. Like, there's no need to get exhausted from comparing a group of people to another group of people when they keep doing new comparative things. Yeah. Where you're just like, ah, you know, I hate to be continually comparing that, but
Starting point is 00:37:43 it's like, well, yeah, but then there's another thing on a checklist. Like if you keep doing more different things like a group, the comparisons will continue to be there. It's not the, it's in fact, it's less of a stretch. Right. Yeah. I, but I think, yeah, it's like when we said, it's like, why the fuck would they do this? It's again, they just want to grind people down to the point that you just like fuck whatever man. They win whatever But and there is something like if you if they were moving
Starting point is 00:38:09 Let's say 200 of something and then like oh, yeah, no, we put that one back And there will be people on on the right. We're like see but they It's still there the one the one thing the one example is still there It says Jackie Robinson still played baseball online somewhere. So I don't know what you guys are upset about. Right. Right. Dodgers fans will never forget. All right.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Well, there he, he has a pretty comprehensive vision when it comes to not just history, but the arts and that's coming out. His vision is coming out with his work with regards to the Kennedy center, which you know, it's that they're, it's a, a venue. They often honor artists and, uh, he recently fired the, uh, board of the Kennedy Center writing on social media that they do not share our vision for a golden age in arts and culture, which is like very, that, that sounds, I don't know, very like cultural revolution, uh, extremists. Meant to, meant to.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Then he just had a meeting with the new board who are a bunch of Trump loyalists. And it was a doozy. So we have leaked audio from the meeting and his vision includes remounting Andrew Lloyd Webber's cats, the play with people going around as cats. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were cute. And he, but he like has this thing where you ever see like actors go on a late night show and they feel like
Starting point is 00:39:45 they have to justify that they like aren't theater people. So they're like, yeah, I actually did it for the chicks. Like that, that's how Donald Trump got into it. That's actually got into it for girls. I had an injury that made it so I couldn't play football. And then I just saw all these girls. I saw cats because of bone spurs. You guys aren't going to believe this. Some bone spurs let me to sing cats on Broadway. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Okay. So he told the story of how he loved cats, but he had to couch it as like, first, I thought it was weird. Uh, but then I saw how hot the girl cats are. I liked it. The science confused him. He's like, I just couldn't, I don't know how hot the girl cats are. I like that the science confused him. He's like, I don't know how they made the cats talk technology-wise. They were biped. We should investigate that.
Starting point is 00:40:36 Yes. They weren't walking on all fours. There's also a weird part in the leaked audio where he talks about going to Broadway as a young star. I was a young star. They were very excited to have me there. And then he was with, quote, somebody I should not have been there with. So he was Epstein. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:52 They said St. and Cats were definitely Epstein. Very curious what that's in reference to. Yeah. That's the best part about his- It's gotta be either an underage person or Epstein, right? That's the thing about his mental decline is like, he's going to start slipping.
Starting point is 00:41:06 Yeah. Saying something wild. I mean, anybody who's had family go down this path, there's a time when the, the shit is just starts where you find out about secret families. Did you also like, right? Yeah, for real. Right. And did you, there's, there was a moment where he was at the Kennedy center
Starting point is 00:41:21 talking and like the NBC camera got pulled while he was talking for some reason and they cut the feed. Oh really? What the fuck was that about? Some people are like it's because he's starting to ramble and they're like oh let's just not get this on tape because this is like a bad look for Trump. We don't want the president to look bad. Yeah. Yeah. He so just his description in his words of being wooed, hearing the first siren call of the theater is that he showed up and he was initially turned off by the sight of dozens of dancers lying on stage. He recalled thinking, you've got to be kidding me. Let's get out of here. I walked in, but then, here's the twist. I walked in, I saw all these bodies, and then I noticed those bodies were gorgeous.
Starting point is 00:42:08 They had silk tights on and they were all ballerinas and women from Broadway and men. Uh, I didn't find those particular bodies as attractive, to be honest. All right, bro. He does have to come in and clarify. It's so funny to just be so, you're so wildly insecure, even in your most private, secure moments. Yes. That he could have been talking,
Starting point is 00:42:32 I bet he was talking to a mirror. He's like, I didn't like the boys. I didn't like the boys. Not at all. Not into that as much. With him taking over the Kennedy Center, I am excited to see John Voight play Mr. Mostophilis. I think that this is some really fun casting that we could get into.
Starting point is 00:42:47 James Woods too. Yeah, that'll be in there. I've been seeing Mark Wahlberg playing some in Cats. And I think that it will be a fun revival for many careers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He also has weird complaints about who is honored by the Kennedy Center. I'm trying to think of like who is typically honored by the Kennedy center. Is that, is that where they do the Mark Twain?
Starting point is 00:43:07 I think the Kennedy center honors are separate. Yeah, I think, yeah, but either way, uh, according to him, it's there. They're kind of known for giving awards to radical left lunatics and should really start honoring LL Cool J. Really start honoring more people like Pavarotti Elvis and Babe Ruth. The fuck are you talking about? They, they, they, the fuck is he talking about? Just look at that list of people.
Starting point is 00:43:38 A lot of your favorites are on there, Trump. So just, you know. He thinks Babe Ruth is still alive. That's the thing. Yeah. And then he was like, we should honor Steve win the casino owner. It's like, why doesn't Steve win have a Kennedy thing? And then finally to give us a sense of like what all of this is about.
Starting point is 00:43:58 He offered he's like, I'll post the award show myself. Yes, I know. I don't want to do it. I don't want to, but they'll twist my arm because I'm king of ratings. Oh, Jesus Christ. So excited to see Scott Baio tussle his hair on the Kennedy center stage. Yeah. It'll be great coming together.
Starting point is 00:44:18 Lorenzo, Llamas. I mean, this is, is this just another way for him to give something to people who give him something? You know what I mean? He, he needs like output for his input. So people are giving him things. This has to be like a lesser purchase. Like when you do a fundraiser for school and you sell candy bars and you get prizes or whatever, this is like the lower totem of the pricing. This isn't like a cabinet position, but this is like, I can give you a Kennedy Center on something for your mantle Yeah that or and also I just think because the whole thing is about a cultural
Starting point is 00:44:50 Realignment is that the Kennedy Center sort of stands as this sort of thing. It's like the Libs control it They're not giving it to people like Steve Winwood or whatever whoever the fuck he's into you know I mean like there Steve win Loggio sorry my bad my bad, my bad. Love Wynn Wood. James MGM Grand. All of my friends. Terry Benedict for Motions 11.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Luther Luxor. Luther Luxor? Yeah, it's the pyramid scheme he's involved in. But I mean, like in that sense, it's like, oh, now we get to decide, and now we are the people who say who's number one, and it's not artists, it's just whatever oh, now we get to decide and now we are the people who say who's number one and it's not artists, it's just whatever figures on the right to just again say these are the most exalted figures,
Starting point is 00:45:30 not artists, not people who are performing or whatever. Yeah. This thing we made fun of for being unimportant is surprisingly important now that we picked the winner. Right. Yeah. Also Pavarotti did perceive it in 2001. He did. He Havarati got one already. He just wants to go back and give him another one now that he's dead. It's just, it feels like it's the same shit as him. You know, we've seen that like during his campaign, he kept just like hijacking events to just play DJ, like play music and just be like, yeah, the shit, this shit goes, doesn't it?
Starting point is 00:46:04 Your Kennedy center honors a village person. Right. Right. Right. The army man from the village people. The village person army man is a legal name. It is the last thing that they don't have and probably will never have. And keep trying as we'll get to with the Snow White story, but they
Starting point is 00:46:24 keep wanting to have, to be cool. And it story, but they keep wanting to have to be cool. And it's just something they'll never be able to have. Like they're hating Hollywood and hating the elite and hating New York and hating theater. They sure are wanting to buy and boycotting all of Hollywood and, and, and, and, and theater and New York. Yeah. I mean, he, he's always wanted that approval. Like he's always said, like he's always behind closed doors called his supporters, like disgusting piggies.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Dumb fucks. Yeah. So he, like, he doesn't want his most famous musician supporter to be Kid Rock. No. You know? Yeah. He wants it to be Beyonce. Like he would, he would die to be like honored with a honorary Oscar.
Starting point is 00:47:06 You know? Yeah. I mean, he was so put off by Taylor Swift actually saying something up anti-hit really like that seems to be the thing that really hurts them is there no matter what they'll never be cool. I think the closest they came was during this past election because they were not in power and now they're in power and everybody fucking hates them. And Elon Musk is like holding back tears, you know, like it's yeah
Starting point is 00:47:28 It is the thing like no matter what they say It's the thing that they actually want they do this all to be cool and they can't be they just like can't it's everything They do is works against that, you know, yeah. Well, it's like, it's, they just want so bad. He's like, why can't having no empathy be an engine for creating great art? Right. Yeah. For some reason. It's not working.
Starting point is 00:47:54 Do a little research on that. Yeah. We'll see what happens. Uh, all right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Prohibition. It's no secret that banning alcohol didn't stop people from living it up in the 1920s. When we're five years into Prohibition, the government is starting to go, okay, this isn't
Starting point is 00:48:17 working. In fact, you might even say it backfired spectacularly. I'm Ed Helms, and on season three of my podcast, Snafu, we're taking you back to the 1920s and the tale of Formula 6. Because what you probably don't know about Prohibition is that American citizens were dying in massive numbers due to poisoned liquor and all along an unlikely duo was trying desperately to stop the corruption behind it. They were like superhero crusaders,
Starting point is 00:48:46 turning the page on a system that didn't work, wasn't fair, and was corrupt. So how did prohibitions war on alcohol go so off the rails that the government wound up poisoning its own people? To find out, listen and subscribe to Snafu on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. But what's inside a black hole? Black holes could be a consequence of the way that we understand the universe. Well, we have answers for you in the new iHeart original podcast, Science Stuff. Join me, Jorge Cham, as we tackle questions you've always wanted to know the answer to
Starting point is 00:49:33 about animals, space, our brains, and our bodies. Questions like, can you survive being cryogenically frozen? This is experimental. This means never work for you. What's a quantum computer? It's not just a faster computer. It performs in a fundamentally different way. Do you really have to wait 30 minutes after eating before you can go swimming?
Starting point is 00:49:50 It's not really a safety issue. It's more of a comfort issue. We'll talk to experts, break it down, and give you easy to understand explanations to fascinating scientific questions. So give yourself permission to be a science geek and listen to science stuff on the iHeart Video app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Mark Seale. And I'm Nathan King.
Starting point is 00:50:11 This is Leave the Gun, Take the Canole. The five families did not want us to shoot that picture. Leave the Gun, Take the Canole is based on my co-host Mark's bestselling book of the same title. And on this show, we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the godfather's birth from start to finish. This is really the first interview I've done in bed. Ha ha ha ha!
Starting point is 00:50:32 We sift through innumerable accounts. I see 35 pages, very much. Many of them conflicting. That's nonsense. There were 60 pages. And try to get to the truth of what really happened. And they said, we're finished, this is over. The movie's not gonna work. You gotta get, we're finished, this is over. The gun is not going to work.
Starting point is 00:50:45 You gotta get rid of those guys. This is a disaster. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Cobola, Robert Evans, James Kahn, Talia Shire, and many others. Yes, that was a real horse's head. Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRad Radio app, Apple podcasts,
Starting point is 00:51:05 or wherever you get your podcasts. I am Bob Pitman, Chairman and CEO of iHeart Media. I'm excited to share my podcast with you, Math and Magic, Stories from the Frontiers of Marketing. This week, I'm talking to the CEO of Moderna, Stefan Bancel, about how he led his team through unprecedented times to create, test, and distribute a COVID vaccine all in less than a year.
Starting point is 00:51:30 It becomes a human decision to decide to throw by the window your business strategy and to do what you think is the right thing for the world. Join me as we uncover innovations in data and analytics, the math, and the ever-important creative spark, the magic. Listen to Math and analytics, the math, and the ever important creative spark, the magic. Listen to Math and Magic, stories from the frontiers of marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And we're back. We are back. And the movie we all keep hearing about now, the air up. No, sorry. It was the Kevin Aiken classic. That was what we were talking about before. Wasn't Adrian Brody in that one? Yeah, he played some of his accent.
Starting point is 00:52:18 His accent work was incredible. He was the, he was Saleh, the African basketball player. The Kyle Ayers up there. He was the best. He was Saleh, the African basketball player. The Kyle Ayers up there's what. So I knew that they were making a Snow White remake because of the racist backlash, because of the racist backlash. That's basically how it came on our radar on this show. But yeah, they they've been having a lot of success doing the like, I was blown away to see like a couple years after it came out. We were looking at like the top 10 box office grocers like movies of all time and like the Lion King live action remake was like on there.
Starting point is 00:52:59 It's like between Jurassic Park and like ET. It's like the quotation marks around live action are doing a lot of heavy lifting. Yeah. The animals talk movie. I'm not sure how many cameras were there. Right. That's right. But we shot the plates on cameras.
Starting point is 00:53:13 Yeah. And we inserted them all. Why old like a movie that feels like it never happened is still like one of the most financially successful, like whatever that you just can't fathom all of those people ever being in the same room. It's like an ungettable. Right. Of whatever. With the cast that you just can't fathom all of those people ever being in the same room. It's like an ungettable group of people. Right. Unbookable cast.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Yeah. But you just get them all to do it. Yeah. They'll do it individually in separate trailers or whatever. Everything's computer. That's just him describing this. You see this in the movies. I do like the idea of someone like having, like explaining to Beyonce how to change her input in GarageBand. That's right
Starting point is 00:53:50 Oh, I mean, she's a recording artist. She probably knows how to do that. That's but she's the most famous person in the movie I assume famous people can't use inputs. Yeah, John Oliver He would be Your second poll from second most famous person. So good Beyonce, obviously. Good John Oliver, Kevin Bacon, Sabrina Carpenter. Yeah, that's right. All right. So they're somewhat soulless, I guess is what I'd say. It feels a little like a CGI slop, but it's incredibly profitable because so you got the two quadrants.
Starting point is 00:54:26 All right. You got the people who saw the first movie and still like that movie, uh, the, the first lion king, and then you got these younger audiences who will never know the, the joy of seeing the first movie without having this kind of, it, it's like high level AI slop is what it feels like a little bit. That is a good way of like, they just copy pasted the YouTube link to the first movie.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Yeah. And the other point that people have made is that like, like thinking about it, like a business person, you're like, well, there's a lot of hard work that has already been done. Like they've already like designed these shots and we don't have to pay those people at all. You know, Vince Vaughn did a shot for shot remake of Psycho and we all dragged him for it. And then people at Disney were like, yeah, but what if we did this with other stuff?
Starting point is 00:55:19 Yeah, what if we did this like with stuff that actually would make a lot of money? Everything we've ever done. Yeah. So this is a remake of a 1937 film. So I actually am skeptical that there's a ton of people who are still left over from that initial run. They hired a lot of the same animators. Right, yeah. The union was stronger back then.
Starting point is 00:55:39 A lot of people with the same mental state as 1937. Yeah, for some reason, the history rhymes. But apparently it's good. Early critical reaction is that it's pretty good for a Snow White movie, like Rachel Ziegler who is playing the titular Snow White. Just her star power
Starting point is 00:56:01 shines through according to early critics. Disney's burying it, which is weird. The very opposite of what they did with The Lion King when it was just the biggest media event of the year for a thing that ended up being nothing. There's been so many contrast, the fans, there's so many loud-ass hater fans from the beginning that it's just hammered Disney like into a corner. And then on top of that, like the Rachel Ziegler saying things
Starting point is 00:56:30 about the movie that people were like, how dare she talk up characterize a thing from 1937 is potentially being backwards. Yeah. She says one more thing has changed in a hundred years. I'm going to lose my mind in my $30 house. Yeah. They are doing the thing that they like move the flash that Ezra Miller flash movie did where they like don't let press come to the premiere, like they're still throwing a premiere, but they're not letting press come to it. What just happened earlier this week?
Starting point is 00:57:04 Yeah. Yeah. It's just the this week? Yeah. Yeah. It's just the movie costs $270 million. Yeah. Yeah. The other thing that's crazy that they're like, you know how much Snow White costs? Fox. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:17 We bought Fox. We bought Fox for that amount of money. We bought all of the things that own the Vimpsons. Right. Right. Yeah. No, it's because even that own the Simpsons. Right, right. Yeah. No, it's because even to the other thing that was Rick really telling is like the pre-sale for the tickets was like only like a week out from the premiere
Starting point is 00:57:33 where anytime you have like a supposed tent pole film, you're doing more than like a week to try and get pre-sale figures up. And it seemed like very early on, maybe people were in a situation. I think you can already buy tickets to like the Avengers Doomsday movie. Right. Really? Yeah. No.
Starting point is 00:57:51 In the 2030s. I would have liked so far out. Yeah. Then there's a controversy. Rachel Ziegler has said some things hugely controversial about the sexual politics of the first movie, which by the way, going back and watching the first movie, I did this for the Bechdel cast.
Starting point is 00:58:11 Snow White is only, anytime she does something with her own agency, she knocks herself out. She runs into the woods and knocks herself out. Learning the buttons to a video game. Yeah. Exactly. He only, exactly. The only good things that happened to her is when she's unconscious, like literally she's unconscious and then all the animals like fall in love with her.
Starting point is 00:58:34 She's passed out in like the dwarves bed and like the, they are about to like stab her with an ice pick and then the, or with a pickaxe, pickaxe, pickaxe. And like, they just fall in love with her because she's so pretty when she's asleep. When she's awake, she runs into the woods and like knocks herself out by like running into branches. Uh, she, she eats a poison, the most clearly poisoned apple of all time. And the history, even like, even Eve was like, Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Starting point is 00:59:05 Yeah, yeah. Don't tell me my business, devil woman. And then the ultimate thing that saves her, she's in a coma in a weird glass coffin in the middle of the woods. And Prince Charming comes by and saves her by falling in love with her again because of how pretty she is while she's asleep. That is her superpower is being pretty when she's not making decisions or like messing it up by being having free will.
Starting point is 00:59:35 Right. She's just passed out. It's like fucking Bill Cosby wrote the movie. It's really a weird and has some weird angles. Even like even when she was talking about, she just kind of like, yeah, it's a little, you know, it's like 1937. So there are some things that are dated. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And it's well, again, this goes back to the racism because she's, you know, Colombian and also Polish that why can't they just focus on the Polish side and celebrate that? I know. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:00:00 I'm like, yeah, it's fine. You know, because they have a little joke books in their bathrooms. Me like, yeah, it's fine. You know, because they have books in their bathrooms. I know. But like you look at too, like even when a homegirl who was Hermione, when she played Belle in Beauty and the Beast, she also was saying shit about like how, you know, the the new Emma. Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:18 And Emma Watson. Yes. Thank you, Supervisor Catherine. She even had things to say about how the remake was, like, that there were just some things in the original that she was like, I don't know. But that sort of didn't cause the same kind of controversy, again, because everything is all about how dare they do.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Yeah, it's tough to tell the difference in immediate reaction to these two actresses. Yeah. It's just really hard for me to find something that could cause a knee-jerk reaction from someone ready to be upset online. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So she is being compared to Gal Gadot, who It's really hard for me to find something that could cause a knee jerk reaction from someone ready to be upset online. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Yeah. So she is being compared to Gal Gadot who is that plays the evil queen Gal Gadot who has served in the IDF literally served in the IDF. Hey, Daniel Day-Lewis got into character early. Exactly. Has been very outspokenly pro Israel since the start of the war in Gaza. And Rachel Ziegler, who's just said, you know, pro-Palestine. There needs to be a ceasefire.
Starting point is 01:01:14 I think that at least the way they could like come together is if Gal could get some sort of like vertical video song, montage video put together to really just let us all unite. Just try and imagine a world where that happens. Never. That I will never forget about that. That that's the turning point in celebrity worship as a culture, I believe. I similarly think that that was a very important event. I'm still waiting for the long read on how it came back together.
Starting point is 01:01:43 The all of the Snow White reboot is shot in front of Gal Gadot's, like a poolside cabana where she's trying to relate to people. That's right. So it also, so at the time that it came out, Ben Shapiro was like, I mean, our name's Snow White, like this is white supremacist and that's a good thing, I guess. So much so that he launched his own version of Snow White, because Snow White is a public domain starring a conservative YouTube star. I thought you were joking earlier.
Starting point is 01:02:20 No, no, no. There's a trailer coming. I thought it was like, because Ben Shapiro likes musicals and stuff. And I remember his reaction to Wicked being like a very viral thing. I thought you were actually messing with me. No, no, no, no, no. He was like, we're going to do our own and it's going to be Snow White and she's going to be really white. By the way, the person just looks the same amount of white as Rachel Ziegler. It's not like Disney's out here trying to fight for diversity. But anyways, they put out a trailer, looked like shit and that movie fell apart.
Starting point is 01:02:51 So unfortunately, we won't be getting that. They never made it. No, no, no, no. No, of course, of course. She's Snow White. Are there any people like this is this is an American thing because it's Disney. And I'm like, do you know anything about fucking Snow White? Do you know who the Brothers Grimm?
Starting point is 01:03:09 Are they from America? Yeah. So Cleveland, I believe. Yeah. Yeah. Cleveland, Germany. They explained the energy I have while I'm there. But yeah, like it really doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 01:03:21 If I had to guess why Disney is just completely burying a movie that costs them $270 million, whether it's their objection to Gal Gadot being pro-Israeli or because they're ashamed that Rachel Ziegler says pro-Palestine things every once in a while. And because they're scared of being criticized by the right during this administration. I don't know which side is more likely here, but yeah, it seems somewhat cowardly to me. It's also kind of in keeping with their legacy because they've kind of been dicks about Snow White from the start.
Starting point is 01:04:06 The actress who voiced Snow White was paid $20 a day. Damn, ballin'. Was not listed in the credits. And Walt Disney just blackballed her from ever appearing in anything ever again, allegedly. So that her, because he was like, that would ruin the Snow White illusion. Right. That's why I also have her sleeping in this glass coffin in the middle of nowhere. And I, every now and then give her water and food.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Yeah. Just don't want to destroy the illusion. Yeah. That's so wild though, too. They're like that, like that old timey way of doing this. I mean, they're still blacklisting actors now. So what am I saying? But like $20 a day is like it's crazy you can make almost double that
Starting point is 01:04:46 now but yeah just like that whole equipment that texture of being like you I own you and the voice and I can disappear you my pretty and that's the fucking end of it anyway the actor I, the fucking goat. I'm just reading the die, the actress who voiced the original Snow White being Adriana Casalotti. I'm sorry, no one seeing her would change the image of Snow White. I don't even know what she looks like.
Starting point is 01:05:13 I'm picturing Adriana from The Sopranos, but purely based on name. The Mystique. I guess there were eight movies then. They were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, no one can ride that train. It came at the screen. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:05:28 Like they had to really keep everyone on their toes. They're still at that point of like movies where they're like, we don't want to ruin the magic by letting them know that- Wait till Ben Shapiro translates what Casablanca turns to. Do you know what I mean? He's going to have some real gripes
Starting point is 01:05:43 with where that movie took place. What if they were on the other side? I don't know. Just, just spitballing here. But yeah, they're like that people are, if this, this woman goes out and goes on like one of these talk shows, she's people are going to literally Jack Benny invited her to come on his radio show and she was like, yeah. And then they were like, we checked with Walt. Walt says no, because then people will think
Starting point is 01:06:09 that the drawing is not singing. They'll know that you're an actual person. Oh, if only Walt Disney knew how dumb people are. Falling for deep fakes now where it isn't even the actual real person singing a song. Yeah. Show him a Snapchat filter. Let's blow his frozen head.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Oh my God. He'd probably fucking, he'd probably re-die. How is that a dog? No. I don't have ears like that though. Or a big puffy snout. Well Kyle, it's been a pleasure having you as always on the show. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?
Starting point is 01:06:45 Yeah, I'm Kyle Ayers on most of the platforms, or if you search, I'm the one that looks like me. And I'll be April 5th in New York at Union Hall doing my show about living with chronic pain. It's called Hard to Say. It's a bunch of jokes about living in pain every day. And I got a podcast, like you said, Never Seen It, where comedians rewrite movies they've never seen. It's very fun, very dumb. And yeah, if you want me to run a D&D
Starting point is 01:07:11 campaign, get in my inbox. I've been doing some remote ones and doing some in-person ones. It's a fun way to do fun things. That's awesome. You would deliver. I think you would deliver. I think he would. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Oh, yes. I screenshotted two tweets. Here we go. Well, I screenshotted two tweets. Here we go. Well, I screenshotted one of these when I knew I was coming on, which was a few weeks ago. And it was Nathan McIntosh, Nate McIntosh, who's so funny.
Starting point is 01:07:33 He's a comedian who said, you're more likely to crash on the way to the airport. People have been pretty quiet lately. And then Mike Kaplan, who I also love, had this thing where he said, I would walk 500 miles if I had better shoes, song by the disclaimers. Amazing miles. Where can people find you as their work media you've been enjoying? Yeah, at miles of gray, wherever they got the ad symbols, I'm going to switch it up.
Starting point is 01:08:04 I'm going to say, if you like 90 day fiance, check me out on 420 day fiance. And if you want to hear basketball talk, then that's Jack and I on miles and Jack got mad. My boosties the NBA pod to works and social media. Like first one is because of the fucking JFK documents that drop at rogue WPA. You said, holy shit.
Starting point is 01:08:23 And this is like it's meant to look like some of the text from the Kennedy documents is November 4th, 1963. President Kennedy has volunteered to be the first to receive a new vaccine against a variant of the common cold, which is based on top secret experimental messenger RNA technology. Yeah. The president told their not staff. The president told staff at Walter Reed, just give me the damn shot so I can eat bats again.
Starting point is 01:08:46 This is holy shit. And then another one from at year of the wizard, forgot how to do a small talk. So I just say, I swear it didn't used to be this windy all the time, like a few years ago. And people agree most of the time. That's incredible. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien,
Starting point is 01:09:14 and I'm bluesky at Jack Obey the number one. I like to tweet from Yo Bobby. Yo Bobby, the O's are zeros. Fucking hell. Who wrote, bro, no one calls you the space cowboy. Yo Bobby the O's are zeros Bro no one calls you the space cowboy Some call me the gangster Now they don't even more east if we're gonna really get to it So it sounds like that scene from Billy Madison between Chris and him now, they know no you didn't
Starting point is 01:09:49 No, you didn't. Yeah, you're right. You're right. You can find us on Twitter and blue sky at daily zeitgeist We're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it and you can find the footnote Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yes, as I was sobbing to Timbaland
Starting point is 01:10:17 reacting to aspiring producers music, I was just getting into some other like producer beat maker people. There's this producer called Badi Koo, B-O-D-I-K-H-U-U. This beat maker is from Mongolia and basically like through the act of sampling music creates these like albums that are centered around like Rio. Like so he'll sample a bunch of like bossa nova records
Starting point is 01:10:40 and like put out this like, we went on a track actually like a while back from his Rio album. There's a, the one of the latest albums like put out this like we've got we went on a track actually like a while back from his real album there's a the one the one of the latest albums he put out was one called Tokyo where he's sampling a bunch of Japanese pot like J-pop city pop like old Japanese funk songs whatever and putting it together and his whole thing is like I've never been there but I just these sounds feel like I'm recreating something that I feel like I'm there too and for someone and I just think it's a really great album this tracks called J-Funk and it's fantastic and this is by the artist body who B O D I K H U U check it out
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