The Daily Zeitgeist - Disneyland Fight Club, CNN = Casino News Network 01.08.26

Episode Date: January 8, 2026

In episode 1986, Jack and Miles are joined by filmmaker, tv writer. host of Glamorous Trash: A Celebrity Memoir Podcast and author of I Shouldn't Be Telling You This: (But I'm Going To Anyway), Chelsea Devantez, to discuss… RFK Jr. Latest Vaccine F**kery “Blindsided” The CDC, Who’s Taking The Over On NUCLEAR APOCALYPSE? Peace to Duffman, Disneyland Line-Cutting Leads To Brutal Fight and more! ‘Astounding’ vaccine change puts US behind peer countries, experts warn US to slash routine vaccine recommendations for children in major change experts say creates doubt HHS announces unprecedented overhaul of US childhood vaccine schedule The Obvious Reason the U.S. Should Not Vaccinate Like Denmark How the Danish Vaccination Registry became a cornerstone of Denmark’s immunisation service Assessment of the U.S. Childhood and Adolescent Immunization Schedule Compared to Other Countries Why RFK Jr.’s plan to follow Europe on vaccines is getting panned CDC staff ‘blindsided’ as child vaccine schedule unilaterally overhauled The perils of RFK Junior's anti-vaccine leadership for public health The casino-fication of news ‘Goodness Gracious!’: CNN Data Guru Reveals Trump Takeover Odds Father brutally beaten in fight over line-cutting at Disneyland Disneyland addresses increasing hostility, fighting at theme parks LISTEN: ROCKMAN (THREESIXTY Edit) by Mk.geeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Hi, can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah, now I'm going to hear you. Hey. Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea. Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea. Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea. Wow, I didn't realize I needed to get into football.

The whole club named after you, mate. We actually produced that specifically for it. We got 500 drunk horny men and West Londoners together to see that for you. I wouldn't have thought I wanted that, but it turns that I do. I guess like hearing a group of people scream your name like that would be a little bit like, oh, like y'all got a little chant for me too. With a little accent on her. Josai.

Joe Say! Joe Say! I had an accent I didn't know. Chosai! Chosay! I'm sorry. Yeah, just a little bit when you come out of your house. All right, Chelsea.

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career coach day. Yeah, I get a lot of notes for my mom. My name's Jack O'Brien, A.K. Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Yes, it's Miles Gray, a.k.a. The Shogun with no gun, the Lord of Lakership, Altadina's finest. Coming out the fires, it's been, today is technically the anniversary of when my house burned down. The fire started on the seventh, but the eighth is when the shit was gone. When you actually knew.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, when I was like, oh, I don't remember texting you. I'm like, yeah, I think, I think I'm, I think he's cooked, guys. I'm not quite sure. But what a year it's been, I got to say, I just say, I'm thinking a lot of things at the moment, but mostly really good things because this has been a, like a trying year, but I've learned to put new value into things that I had it before. So a beautiful year, and I'm so glad to have shared it with the listeners and all y'all because you've been there and supported.

So just going to bring that up again because it is a bit of a sentimental day for me. Yeah, yeah. You've been through it. You've been through some shit this year. Been through some shit. Yeah, you know. You've done it admirable. I think that's why the new administration didn't fuck with me as much because I'm like,

eh, what's you going to do? Burn my house down? Too late. Yeah, too late. Oh, gosh. Maybe I didn't need that. But yeah, it's definitely. It's a lot.

But, you know, my heart goes out to everybody who's affected because. Yeah. The recovery is still a long, a long, slow process. Lawsuits are still happening. It's all, it's a whole thing. But, um, yeah, my heart goes out to L.A. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat. Yeah, a brilliantly talented filmmaker, TV writer, bestselling author. Yeah. One of the head writers for The Problem with John Stewart wrote on Girls 5 Eva, bless this mess. Damn. Opposition with Jordan Clever, among many, many others. She wrote directed and starred in the acclaimed short film Basic. And hosts the podcast, Glamorous Trash, a Celebrity Memoir podcast. It's Chelsea Devontes. Chelsea, Chelsea, Chelsea. Chelsea. I'm so thrilled to be here with you both on such a beautiful anniversary, Miles.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We wanted to have you here to share. Wanted to have you, Chelsea. Celebration. Of life, of life. It is pretty wild to really sit with the fact that it's been a year, because I feel like L.A. as a whole, at least industry adjacent, there was this slogan of survive until 2025.

Yeah, because of like the strikes and stuff. And so we were all going into the New Year being like, all right, things are finally going to turn around. And it's been such a- We can all exhale. Yeah, exactly. It's been such an intense psychosis and even worse year that I can't believe it's been a year since that started.

Survive until 25. I know. Yeah. I know. But I made up a new one. Are you ready for 2026? Yeah. Everything going to get fixed in 2026.

There we go, please. So if you guys could pass that around. And I'm back. Yeah. And I'm optimistic again. I need group think on that. Yeah. I need everyone in that saying that manifesting it as a whole, you know.

26, it's going to get fixed. That's right. I don't know how. Passively. Passively fixed. I don't know what I'm going to do with it, but it's going to get fixed for me. Someone else going to fix it. It's going to take care of itself, I think.

Yeah, yeah. Actually, it is. It's just not in the way we're all hoping. It's been way too long since you've been on. Any really good memoirs that you've consumed that everybody should go check out on glamourish dress? Yes. In that really bad memoirs that made the most amazing episodes, we covered Cheryl Hines memoir, which, you know, wife to RFK Jr. Yeah, we're going to cover some Cheryl Hines today.

Okay. Wait, is this like a thing she wrote recently? In the aftermath of the election, oh, okay. It came out three weeks ago. No, actually, I don't know what time is. How I sleep at night. It actually, yes. She really does.

When you finish it, you're like, oh, this is how you live with yourself. It's unbelievable. Oh, okay. And then we also covered Olivia Nutsi's memoir. Oh, yeah. American canto. That's right. I mean, memoir or work of literature, you know, it blurs that line.

I would say it's a memoir. slash a baseball bat to your groin. I wouldn't put literature in the spectrum. We got some good excerpts from that one, man. Unbelievable. Yeah.

Okay, well, you know, those are his two ladies of the moment that we know of. And so we covered both of them and kind of talked about them with each other. So that was fun. Yeah.

Amazing. We'll go check that out on. Cheryl Hines in her book and her audio book because I think you guys will appreciate this. Oh, yeah.

She says her, she says our R.K. Jr. works for human resources. She got his job title wrong. She's like, and then my husband was signed in as the Department of Human Resources. Oh, my, so, yeah, when you put that together, like, you don't know, oh, maybe she can't admit it

to herself, you know, like she's just, like there's a part of her brain that's rejecting the fact that this motherfucker's in charge of the health care policy for the United States. So she's like, he's probably like an HR guy or something. Let's not go to, let's not think too long. about that. Let's not think about the health part of it. Yeah. All right. Well, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a few of the things

that we're talking about. Again, just an unending stream of good news. Our act, too, we're going to be looking at the state of journalism. We're going to look at it through the state of the reporting on the RFK Jr., his latest vaccine fuckery that blindsided the CDC. And just not really the journalism, but like how they're justifying it, what they came back with when people are like, hey, it looks like all experts think this is a bad idea. And then we're going to connect that to the markets-based reporting on the news. Like, everybody's now consulting polymarket and-cal-she. Cal-she. Yeah. About like, what are the odds looking like? What's the line? Yeah. What's the line? What's the over under? What's the over-under on my child dying of premature

death? Yeah. Jesus. talk about that. We'll talk about the Pentagon Influencer, Press Corps, and then we'll get into some silly stuff. We're going to do a fond farewell to Duffman. Oh, yeah. uttered his last, oh yeah, on The Simpsons and Disneyland line cutting fist fight. Need I say more? Probably I do. I'm interested. All of that, plenty more. But first, Chelsea, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? All right. I'm going to continue to stay on theme because because of these memoirs, I've read some of them bad. I learned that Ilaria Baldwin and Olivia Nutsi both have the same birthday, which is January 6th. And I was like, this is wild. Like it does like of a thousand children born on January 6th does like one demon get born on that day? What's happening? And so I was like, who else is born on January 6th? Eric Trump. wow that's what i just learned eric trump laria baldwin and olivia nootsie all january 6th insurrection babies wow it's like a vortex of fucked up shit it's terrible vibes yeah so one one soul from the devil gets sent through on this day each year so if you are january six baby i it's it's not you because it's it's olivia and alaria and yeah january 6 what a year that we just celebrated

what a day that we just celebrated. Do you remember there's like that footage of January 6th of the Trump family was like watching the insurrection in a tent all like locked out of their mind? Like do you think Eric was like trying to like, you know it's my birthday dad? Did anyone get me a cake? Yeah, shut the fuck up. What the fuck you're saying, Paul? He's probably his dad for getting his birthday.

So it was actually probably one of his more celebratory days. Yeah, because he only got together. Right. And he's like finally, now that we'll remember January 6th instead of being like, He pretended it was for him the whole thing. Yeah. He pretended everybody was there for him. I did this for him, baby boy.

Can't believe Dad did this for me. What are you talking about? Happy birthday, dear Eric. You're singing to yourself, dude. That moment where they're backstage watching the insurrection, listening to the song Gloria and like dancing is one of, like, I don't know, it says it all. Wait, Laura Branigan's Gloria? Gloria, yes.

They're backstage, just rocking out. Kimberly Gilfoyles, like, dancing around and, like, the other Donald Trump Jr.'s, like, you know, taking video being like, oh, my God, we're here, grounds it. Like a fucking influencer as his dad tries to overthrow the U.S. government. Yeah, here's a, this is, here's a clip of it. Just watching the news. Watching the news of the insurrection happening. Awesome patriots that are sick of the bull-hs. So thank you all.

There's one where, like, yeah, she's just like, bribing. I think we're a T-minus a couple of seconds here, guys. So check it out. T-in. We're going to live-streaming. It's going to be good. It's going to be good. Yeah, terrifying.

Terrifying. That's, I'd never seen that. Yeah. Absolutely devastating. Also, I love that song, and I'm going to tell you guys, I just shot my first feature film. And the first song I purchased, so like there's no going back that's in the film that took up most of the music budget. Gloria by Laura Brannigan.

Chelsea, take it back. You'll just cast a cloud over me. Take it back from them. I mean, that video will go down in history. and people will be like, whoa, what is Chelsea saying? She's really calling back to the insurrection in this light-hearted comedy starring two women. Oh, that song rolls, though. They don't get to claim that one.

No, no, it's also a cover, I know this because of the purchase, right? It's originally an Italian song by some other guy, and then Laura came around and did a cover no one could have imagined, and that's the only one ever for now. Kind of has, like, Italian cocaine disco vibes to it. Yeah. If you listen to the lyrics, it's dark. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It sounds like someone like either a really depressed person, like,

giving themselves a pep talk slash dressing down. Yeah. Yeah, they're like, I know. I'll feel better if I just do a bunch of Coke. It's going to be okay now. Gloria. What is something you think is underrated? Something I think is underrated.

Okay, this is going to be divisive. But somehow I absolutely was under a rock when the movie House of Gucci came out because I just kind of like vaguely remember people being like, Jared Lotto and Lady Gaga are very bad in this and the Italian accents are crazy and whatever. I vaguely remembered it. And so last night we put it on because it's free on peacock. And I had the best, I had the best time of my life. Salma Hayek plays a witch. Lady Gaga's eyes do a lot of acting. I didn't know the history of the Gucci family.

So when it turned to murder, I was surprised. I had a great time and I was like, I can't believe. I mean, listen, it's a shitty movie, but shitty fun. Like, we need more fun. It's a fun movie. Yeah, yeah. I don't think that's divisive. I felt like that was the take I heard.

I haven't seen it either, but I remember when Super Producer Anna Hosnii saw it, she was like, guys, it's so out there and awful that it's amazing. Okay, but Ann and I have the same taste. I feel like that's right, but I feel like the culture was like, ooh, we spit on this as cinema. Like, it's really Scott. So they were just like, what a failure. We're embarrassed. We're embarrassed.

Oh, yeah. And that is as good as Jared Lotto's Italian accent. That is me doing an impression of his. No, let me do Jared Lotto doing Italian. I am embarrassedado. That's Jared Lotto's voice in House of Gucci, if you ever seen it. I couldn't hear that at all for some reason. You couldn't?

It was meaning. It was like too high. Like, only a dog could have heard it. Yeah, I think only dogs just started barking. Let me lower register. It's he's embarrassed. Yeah. It is.

He's like, hold on. You're pregnant? In Spanish? Yeah. Which, by the way, that is, Miles. You should break that down. That basically the idea of I have an embarrassment is how you say I'm pregnant in some other languages, which is, which explains a lot of patriarchy. Wow.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. I have an embarrassment. That's crazy. I never realized. I'm not translating that well. I'm kind of giving the overall idea of it. It seems like the only research he did for the role was like 90s era Mario, Super Mario. Like that accent, like he's really just doing a Mario.

But what's crazy is that he's known for going so method that when he's playing the Joker or whatever, he's like, I sent condoms full of my own blood, do all my cast meets, blah, blah, blah. And so it's like, wait, what does you do? to become a cartoon character in the house of Gucci. Maybe that's what that guy was really like, you know? We don't know. No, I looked him up. Impossible. I mean, I looked at him up as like, they're not even visually doing the same guy.

Right. Did you see the Elvis movie, by the way, and Tom Hanks' performance as Bazlarman? Yeah. As Colonel Tom Parker. Yeah. Oh, the Dutch guy? Do you ever see an actual interview with Tom Parker? No.

he like has a southern accent like Tom Hanks just made him be like I am the snowman I will snow you over yeah because he was like so Dutch with it because the guy was a Dutch dude he was but like he was a con man who didn't tell anyone he was Dutch

that was the whole point so like the movie is even like structurally it makes sense for him to be Southern and then at the end you find out he's Dutch Tom Hanks is just, I don't know how it happened. That's such a great reveal.

It's such a good reveal. So weird. Also, maybe around the same time, just a weird over the top, insane film. What is something that you think is overrated? Oh, God, you know what? I'm in this moment of all I can think of things that are underrated. Let's go now they're underrated. Okay.

Well, you know what? I don't even know. I think it's fully rated. It's rated. Heated rivalry. It's kind of all I can, it's all I've been consuming. Heated Rivalry and Mormon Housewives. You guys watching either of those shows?

I caught the first episode of Heated Rivalry. I haven't seen Secret Lives of Mormon Housewives yet. What do you guys in doing with your time? Like news and shit? Come on. I don't know. Like chasing a child around and I wish my kid would fuck with the secret lives of Mormon housewives. No, you don't.

No, you don't. That child should not be exposed to. I'll say, Auntie Chelsea wanted you to see this. Okay. And Jack, any heated rivalry? I'm just aware of it. But, yeah, I've spent too much time consuming shit with, like, my nine and seven-year-old to have had time for a heated rivalry. It's really not a show for them because it's just a lot of ass.

It's just a lot of great ass. They were out in, like, the first 15 minutes. It was wild because- Oh, you showed it to them. That's nice. Because I was watching, I'm like, I started to get self-conscious about my ass. Oh, yeah. That's some ass. That's what I think Mormon should watch it, like, because.

because it's like one of the only shows really objectifying the male body. So when you feel like shit about your ass smiles, that's just like how women feel watching TV at the time. 100%. I don't think it should happen to all. All men should watch and be like, wait, should I be 23 with a fully waxed ass? Yeah. I remember coming out to show.

I'm like, damn, this is my ass. Damn. You just start checking it out. Yeah. No, I love it. I'm taking in all of the content. I've gone in deep. I think I know everything about the show.

And I don't even, I actually don't even think I like the show that. I like the discourse around the show. Maybe that's what's underrated. The discourse around heated rivalry is just as good as heated rivalry. Like, and what's, like, what's, what's, what's been life-giving in terms of the discourse around it? Like, really trying to break apart. Well, first off, it is really, I think it's, it's, it's executing my horniest fantasy that I could ever have, which is that if your art is good enough and you just get a little bit of money, your show can explode to. The executives just stay out of the way and you go to Canada with 36 days.

You too can make an amazing show. But really, though, I do think it's, I hope it's going to change the TV industry wholly because we've been spending like a million dollars and then it sucks, right? And then they gave this show $2. And it's unknown talent and all the things they say you're not supposed to do and it hit big. So that's really, again, a horny fantasy of mine as a television writer. And then I think other dynamics of just really trying to understand why people love it And going into, like, seeing two men together takes away some of the gender dynamics of, like, a female to male romance, which always inherently has some danger to it or some power dynamics.

And so what does love look like when neither of you are afraid the other is going to kill each other? Or at least it'll be a fair fight. Right, right, right. And how does that change a love story? And why is that so compelling to watch? And the fact that women are the number one purveyors of M to M content? I didn't know that until the show came out. Like, women are the ones most taking in male-to-male porn, especially in books.

That makes sense. I mean, yeah, yeah. Two-dicks better than one, right, Jack? I've always said. That's why he, the first goal is going to be a woman, and Jack's like, two dicks are better than one. All right, let's do my role. I didn't realize it was like such a sort of, I mean, that makes sense.

It feels like when you look at the shows that get made by streaming platforms, it's like Squid Game is great until they realize it's a hit. Yep. K-pop Demon Hunters comes out of, like, Netflix is now like, we don't need to buy Warner Brothers until they're like, we do. Because we make our own stuff. Yeah, it was thrown away, though. They're so important to know.

They got a garage sale. Yes. Yeah. And a lot of hits, it's like you was thrown away on Lifetime and Netflix picked it up. But it's odd because the industry is not learning the lesson of like, take a lower financial risk, let the artist have some authorial value, let them make actually good art and then put up on your platform. Instead, they're like, I literally have been told this phrase, we'll make your movie if Rihanna stars in it. I was like, Rihanna won't even make

music. You think she's going to be in like, we can't look for any other actress and they're like just Rihanna. It's such a crazy way to look at the business. Well, because all these people, like we say this all the time, like in development, they're not filmmakers themselves. So they have understanding of the art form and they just look everything as like a marketing number and being like well this project will only perform if this talent is attached and if not this is not a good business maneuver

rather than like all like you just think of all the weird movies that were made in the 70s, 80s and part of the 90s where there's like I don't know dude yeah dude make a fucking movie about this guy and how he might be pregnant yeah sure oh you're talking about the best movie

yeah but I'm just saying like it was so experimental in the sensor, they're just like, I'm just fucking, let's do stuff rather than how are we going to maximize profit at every single term. Yeah. And also the algorithm they're following is incorrect, which I think we've always known. Anyone watching TV knows, any artist knows, but I hope finally they're like, maybe we following the wrong math equation. Maybe we should look at other mathy math. Yeah. Or they're going to be like, we need a show with George Clooney and Brad Pitt making out. And they're like, that's not the fucking lesson. Well, I don't know. It might be. That would

really do well. I didn't see wolves either, so I can't, I can neither confirm nor deny that that's what happens on that. You can do some crazy stuff with AI right now. I know. And secret lives of Mormon housewives. Yes, I added housewife on accident because I love housewives, but it is just the secret lives of Mormon wives. Might as well be housewives because it's basically Hulu's attempt to have a housewives franchise. Yeah. Okay, I just saw one of the producers in your chat saying all the husbands are closeted. I would like to co-sign that as well. Um, the Men are so horny to be on camera. They're like trying to get in all the drama. And I,

this is one of the darkest, one of the darkest reality shows I've ever seen. Like, and I, listen, trigger warnings your viewers, but it's like, oh, we're here to see like Mormons be swingers and ruin their lives. And then episode three, one of the husbands is like, hey, I think I'm abusive because I was molested as a child in the church. And then we like spend time on that. And then he's like, I think that's why I got on Tinder and cheated on my wife for five years. And she's like, you know what, I'll forgive you. Let's do a, let's do a duet on dancing with the stars to you cheating on me on tender for five years because you were secretly molested in the church as a child. I mean, what?

And this is like, and sometimes I'm like, do people watching know what they're watching? Because that's why you're watching. Right, right, right. Everything is glossed over like that. Wow. But there's just, there's just so much trauma. They were all, oh, I should tell you guys, I grew up in Utah for eight years. And so this is, I was just like what felt like the only brunette in a school of 1,000 blondes.

And so Utah content speaks deeply to me. I also went to the Church of Latter Day Saints every Sunday for eight years because I was like a people pleasing little bitch and wanted to fit in. I was like, maybe Mormon. I'll be Mormon now. I'm like, whatever you guys need. Hey, you were going to get caught lacking when Gabriel blows that horn. Hell no. Listen, I'm holding on to the iron rod.

I am going straight to one of the heavens. And so I think the show is really fascinating, too, because I think a lot of the indoctrination that's actually happening, like, we see it in culture now of just like extreme Christianity. I think Mormonism shows that really well. And now we're having a show where they all grew up on it. They all still believe it. And they all have the worst lives ever. Like dads are being like, you're a whore. You should get married.

And you're like, hey, maybe religion's bad. That doesn't sound like a good dad. Not a great dad. No, and also get this, Miles. He's a motherfucking stepdad. Wow. I don't think stepdeds can call you a whore. Sometimes the stepdads aren't the dads that stepped up.

No. Yeah, you know, sometimes. On rare occasions. Yeah. Yeah, one of the moms got top-to-bottom plastic surgery and came back season two and looks exactly like her daughter. And the before and after are like Jared Leto as a person and Jared Letto as the Italian man in House of Goetheed. The before and after is like unbelievable. And so now it's like two of the same woman walking around,

but it's a mom and daughter. Wow. That's so weird. The dream. That's like something from a sci-fi. Like all of this shit is like it seems like it sounds like sci-fi or like something like some horribly challenging like Oscar bait. And it's like, no, it's secret labs.

No, it's a reality show. Right. Jesus. Yeah. And like in this one is just another example, but a fun one of just like the whole thing like, the hollowing out of our humanity in like this specific way. Yeah, but also it's kind of, I, I love it so much because of the darkness in it.

It's like, no. For sure, right, right. Yeah, I think, yeah, because I think the housewife shows can get really glossy. And Mormon wives, like, they're exploding. Like, like, a woman is like, she's like, I went to church today and then I don't know why I came home and threw a chair through a window. And now I have domestic violence charges on me. And you're like, she's like, but I went to church today and I was trying to be so good.

And I don't know, there's something about seeing something so real on television. Just an unblinking look into the void on something called Secret Lives of Mormon Watch. By the way, someone else would describe this show entirely different than me. Someone else would be like, so Whitney's the villain, Demi has drama, I'm over here being like, do you remember when she went to church and threw a chair through the window that night? She's like, that spoke to me. I've got a different take on it. Yeah.

All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about the news. We'll be right back. Hi, I'm Dr. Priyankowali. And I'm Hurricane Dibolu. It's a new year.

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We talk about all the ways to keep your body in mind, inside and out, healthy. We human beings, all we want is connection. We just want to connect with each other. Health stuff is about learning, laughing, and feeling a little less alone. Listen on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Ed Zittron of the Better Offline Podcast, and I want you to join me at this year's Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Nevada, starting January 6th through January 10th, 2026. We're doing 10 radio-style podcast episodes about the world's biggest tech conference, and we're going to dig into the latest and weirdest gadgets, gizmos, and horrible AI gear that the tech industry is desperate to sell you, all while covering the biggest stories in Silicon Valley as the AI bubble trend. to burst. I'll be joined by David Roth, Chloe Radcliffe, Adam Conover, Corey Doctoro, Edon

Guasso, Jr., Robert Evans, and an incredible cast of the greatest talent in the tech media, with over 18 hours of interviews, commentary and bizarre stories, all told from the Better Offline pop-up studio connected to its own open bar. Today I did five hours of back-to-back panels on artificial intelligence. It included a number of great moments, including an entire room full of people, laughing about people losing their jobs due to artificial intelligence. Will we make it out alive? There's only one way to find out. Tune in starting January 6th through January 10th, 2026,

and listen to the literal best tech podcast ever recorded. Listen to Better Offline on the IHot Radio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you happen to get your podcasts. Are you desperately hoping for change in 2026, but feeling stuck? Just spinning your wheels in old routines and bad habits? I'm Dr. Lari Santos, and in a new year series of my show, The Happiness Lab,

I'm going to look at the science of getting, well, unstuck. Unstuck at work, unstuck in your relationships, and even unstuck inside your mind. I am the absolute worst culprit when it comes to getting into these ruminative loops and just driving myself crazy. We'll look at ways to reignite your sense of purpose, rediscover your values, and get more creative. We'll also explore how to design a life that feels more fulfilling. It's sort of like the game of life. I don't know if you ever played that game. Oh my gosh, yes. You take the car along and you try and get money and you try and get degrees and you try and get to the end.

where either you have a mansion or a ranch or a shack. And once you get to retirement, you're done. What about the whole path along the way? So join me to get unstuck in 2026. Listen to the Happiness Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your shows. You know, we always say New Year, New Me, but real change starts on the inside.

It starts with giving your mind and your spirit the same attention you give your goals. Hey, everybody, it's Michelle Williams, host of Checking in on the Black Effect Podcast Network. And on my podcast, we talk mental health, healing, growth, and everything you need to step into your next season, whole and empowered. New Year, Real You. Listen to Checking in with Michelle Williams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app,

Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And we did want to check in on RFK Jr. and the Department of Human Services. Human Resources. Human resources. The Department of Human Resources' latest move on unreconding a third of the recommended childhood vaccines. One expert called it the largest change in our vaccination schedule in modern American history. These are vaccines that protect against rhodovirus,

influenza, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, a big win for hepatitis. Yeah. In terms of the news, a lot of other shit. And now it will, they will fall into the shared clinical decision-making category, which shifts responsibility from initiating vaccination to individual families from health care systems, which the way they justified it, which I see what they're doing here. They're like, Denmark did it? You didn't get mad at them.

Denmark has 6 million people, not 330 million people. The U.S., by the way, has 27 million people alone who aren't insured at all, and Denmark has universal health care. Right, right. And quote, a national registry that tracks every patient. So it's not exactly apples to apples, but it's just putting everyone at severe risk. And I just wanted to, this is going to get us into like this new trend. they were seeing in the news where they were asked about criticisms from career scientists and the spokesperson for the Department of Health and Human Services said,

pandemic-era distrust of public health agencies has since spilled over into broader vaccine concerns. Broader vaccine concerns. So, but this idea of, like, I feel like there's an overall trend from this administration that's kind of being followed into journalism. that is just shifting from, like, reporting to, like, I don't know what's up with you. Like, they're just, like, ask people, like, what they think is happening. Oh, cool, cool, cool, cool.

And then report that as if it's news. Yeah. And, like, they're justifying this massive health care shift by being, like, I don't know, people aren't really, like, fucking with doctors anymore, I guess. Yeah. So. And this is, like, this is. the CBS news like thing where they're like we for too long we have relied on experts now we're

just listening to the people listening to you uninformed person what's your take on this highly scientific debate yes i'm not feeling it i'm not feeling it oh okay so maybe that's the fucking direction for the country it's so upsetting too because then you have people like bill cassidy that senator who's a doctor who they're like you know he who voted to confirm rfk and Like, are you fucking dumb, dude? Like, you know what this guy's going to do. He's now so upset about what RFK is doing, being like, quote, as a doctor who treated patients for decades, my top priorities protecting children and families.

Multiple children have died or hospitalized from measles goes on. And he's like, all of this was preventable with safe and effective vaccines. Okay, bro, you fucking confirmed him. You confirmed him. And it's not like there was no way to, like the story of what he did in Samoa, like with the 2019 measles outbreak, like, it is, you couldn't ask for a better illustration of exactly what his priorities were and what he was going to do once he got into office. They, like, we've talked about it before, but since the mainstream media is usually more

interested in covering, like, what are the vibes? What do people think? What are the markets saying this will do to the, you know, rates of childhood mortality? So he, there was a, accident at a hospital where the doctor accidentally, like, put something into a vaccine that he wasn't supposed to. They, instead of using, I think, saline, they used a muscle relaxant and two children died. And so they paused vaccines in Samoa to, like, because they got freaked out by that. And RFK Jr. pounced on it. Like, the whole anti-vax community, you know, anytime there's an injury anywhere in the world related to vaccines. no matter, like, how accidental or one-off it is, they fucking swarm.

He flew to the country. He did a big press tour with Cheryl Hines there, made a lot of statements about how, like, what they're doing here is, like, important. And then a massive measles outbreak happened, like months after his visit. Yeah. Now, to play devil's advocate, don't you think what he's doing is an incredible smart, unique, and brilliant way to commit mass murder.

It's so hard to kill a lot of people at one time and he's, I think he's got some great ideas. I didn't do nothing. For mass killings, he's killing. He's crushing it. Yeah, yeah. Jesus. Yeah, it's all so fucking grim now.

It's like, just to think about, like, even in those examples where he's like, well, in Denmark, you know, like, he cites Denmark or they always cite those countries, but it's like, even like, studies that come out of those countries, disprove everything that he says, too. She's like, well, point to them.

He's like, but they're also saying the opposite of what you're saying, too. Like, after that measles outbreak, he was writing letters to the Simone Prime Minister, say, asking if the children's deaths were caused by a defective vaccine or a mutant strain of, like, he just was making up conspiracy theories to explain his, like, he cannot be taught. He cannot, like, learn a lesson. He's just, right. Yeah. It's kind of the same.

way they sell perfume to us, where they're like, did you know this perfume is from France? And you're like, what? A French perfume? I need it. And you're like, it smelled like, yeah, it smelled like shit though, but you're like, it's from France. You're like, oh, okay. So, so like reverse it. It's like, this perfume is from America. It's like, okay, we make a lot of garbage. Like, just because it's from somewhere else doesn't mean we're not shipping you dog shit. Right. The Denmark model. The other country of it. Yeah. No, in Denmark. But in keeping with a, I don't know what's up with you, a model of the administration and now media, that Miles, we talked on yesterday's trending about this new, like one of the big news stories about the incursion into Venezuela, the kidnapping of their sovereign leader, the war crimes committed their bouts. One of the big stories that came out is like, yo, someone hit big with a bet on that. Like they bet right. ahead of it, that Maduro was going to be removed, and he got removed, and that person made

$410,000. So that's kind of cool. Yeah. But this is like a whole trend, is that they're covering the betting markets on the news. Yeah, it's like a combination of things, right? Because like our economy is cooked and more and more people are becoming more nihilistic about their financial futures. So that makes betting like a huge attractive thing, like whether it's crypto or shit like this,

So maybe if I fucking hit big, that will help get me out of like the rock I'm under. So Polly Market and CalShe, these quote unquote prediction markets become more and more appealing, especially now for real world events. And like in the last couple of days, there's just so many headlines and clips that really feel like we've completely lost the plot. Like right now there are articles, right? Articles talking about the prediction markets are saying this Trump official is next to go in 26. Like, what? And so it says, cash Patel at 54%. We got Amy Gleason, the acting administrator

of Doge and Tulsi Gabbard, right there, neck and neck at 47%. The director of national intelligence, like, what are we doing? So how is Polly Market betting volume or Kalshi betty volume relevant to the real world we live in? And like the stories we talked like yesterday about someone making 400 grand off of like the night before being like, Madur will be out by J. 31st. That's pretty relevant because you're like, what the fuck is going on? But like using betting markets as a basis to report is so odd. Like you could say, you can say cash Patel is likely to leave because he's a total failure and no one seems to like him and he's shitty and I could go on. But like, I don't need to bolster that argument with and people are betting on that.

Is it because it's assumed to all be like insider trading? So the reason why you're reporting on it is because the person placing that bed is probably everyone who works in the White House and wants 20 bucks. There's a few reasons. So like, okay, Tulsi Gabbard, right? Also, like, she's in third of the next person. What a queen. Yeah, right?

I love your takes. Girl power. Girl power. Yeah, I'm like, it doesn't make sense. First half the Gucci and now Tulsi Gabbard. You're really coming with it. But you can remove the bedding from it and say Tulsi Gabbard is most likely to leave because ideologically, you know,

she's sort of pronounced her herself as like an isolationist. And she is now like ra-rahing imperial expansion under the U.S. And again, it turns out she's been iced out of meeting. She had nothing to do with the Maduro mission. Like she's on the outs, just on the journalism of it. Rather than what's Kalshi betting on. Like you can read the news.

Devil's having it. Okay. Okay. So that, so that requires reporting expensive. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And the truth cannot sponsor that. story.

Right. Cali, on the other hand. We get a nice little partnership with like a, you know, AI betting market or some bullshit. Like, which seems to sit, like it seems like I'm making that up that that's too cynical. That's not that like CNN is has a big partnership with one of these.

With Calci. So this is, this is CNN reporting on what just what's happened in Venezuela and now sets their eyes on Greenland, but it's all done in this like Calci. bit. Well, this now, see the chief data analyst, Harry Etton. So the Europeans taking it seriously. What about the prediction markets? Yeah, are people in the public taking it seriously? The people who are putting their money with their mouth is. They're absolutely taking it seriously.

I mean, take a look here. The chance that Trump buys any of Greenland by the end of its term, on Friday, it was just 12%. Whoa. Way up there now to 36% a tripling in less than a week. My goodness gracious. They are very much taking what happened in. and as well, adding on to the comments from the Trump administration of what they might want to do with Greenland, absolutely taking it seriously. Just so you know, the whole time, there's a Kalshi ticker at the

bottom talking about odds of like all kinds of shit happening in politics right now. Not a majority chance at this point, but way this part gets crazier. So that's like if Trump buys Greenland. Three times as much as it was, that's for buying Greenland. He just underlined

buying by other means. Yeah. What about by other means? You mean fucking kinetic warfare? What about if he takes a short-term lease on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. What's the APR look like right now? Like, this is now buying it 36% right now.

Anyway, in any way, 403%. So, of course. So this is absolutely unhinged. This is the fucking news now. Sorry, one was if he's going to buy it. And then the other one is including kinetic warfare. Yeah, anyway. I can't believe...

I can't believe they said anyway, but what that means is murder and violence. And they were like, in like another way, girlfriend. He can pay for it, but then like, there's other ways. This is all part of just a larger scheme to complete. So first of all, like, right, CNN and CNBC have signed deals with Kauci to integrate this bullshit into their news coverage. The CNN deal, which starts immediately involves the integration of Kalsi data. across CNN programming, a new Kalshi-powered real-time news sticker that will run during segments that feature Kalshi data.

The CNN deal, which begins in 2026, will incorporate real-time prediction data into CNBC's editorial coverage across TV, digital, and subscription channels. Calci will also create a CNBC page on its site featuring CNBC selected markets. So this makes manipulating the news even easier, right? So you start with the premise that they go, well, betting markets or markets are a good indicator of how people are feeling versus like flawed polling or journalism, which can be biased or whatever. So therefore, these betting markets are, quote, closer to the reality of a situation than anything else. That's like the premise they're trying to operate off of like in that CNN,

but he's like, oh, they're taking it seriously. But since the betting volume is pretty low on these sites, all it takes is someone to place a huge bet. And you can swing the numbers in whatever direction you want. And now you're giving the impression that people are like warming up to or cooling on a certain idea. So in that Greenland example, Harry Enton, Harry Enton is like, goodness gracious, great balls of fire. Look at that movement. As if that were some objective indication of anything.

So CNN treated that swing in numbers like it was news when it very well could have been Stephen Miller or Don Jr. betting to create the headline that Americans believe we can take Greenland or buy Greenland. So anyway, they found a way to manufacture consent and somehow create an opportunity for people to get I tell you, the truthiness of that premise is so viable. As someone who once on this

podcast argued that the Bachelor franchise was better than polling data, the idea that the polling system, journalism being flawed and that this is a better way to tell, like the moment you said about it was like, oh yeah, I bet that's true. And like you remember that's really painful because obviously

it works so well. I can't believe there's not a regulation against that and also I can. But I mean, in that sense, like in those ways like the you you do see like oh there is some information to parse through in that way but like this is the quote efficient market hypothesis that they're like operating off of and to do that to then say this is our reality this is the news this is how americans feel about a thing i think is perverse and just an absolute aberration well i was just so curious as a sports fan is that how they use sports betting when ESPN shit happens so this model is like built and baked

and now they're just put it on politics. Basically, yeah, I think so. But even with sports betting, you have, like, you have different, like, people creating the odds. And, I mean, I guess ESPN is, like, partnered with a specific one. But everybody, nobody is changing the outcome of a game by, like, altering the line. I mean, unless there's, like, where is this? Yeah, that's more just like, hey, how are you going to get in on the action?

Here are the odds. Whereas, yeah, and they're covering it in a way that's, like, excited about invading Greenland. Like, an idea that's so fucking, so fucking bonkers. But, yeah, it is just taking the thing from sports, applying it to warfare and people's ability to, like, survive. Be alive. I don't, like, I think this is similar to, like, some of the things we've, like, trying to look at what's happening in TV and pop culture. And, but I think you have to be like omnivorous in like your taste of like, okay, like this data point like jumped out at me. Whereas like they have a partnership, like a long term monetary partnership.

And in so doing, they're also like locking themselves to a thing that can be easily and completely opaquely manipulated. Like there's no way to there's no way to trace the bets that are being made on polymarket. And the premise is that journalism has ethics, which is a. premise we've abandoned, but you still turn on CNN and you go, oh, I'm watching the news. Right. Like the idea that, like, you're not, I know you weren't for a long time, but now you're really not

watching the news. It's, you know, it's tough. Yeah. Yeah. Well, the Jud Leggum on the popular information, the substack that he has called it, the casino ification of the news. Yeah, everything is casino. Everything's mafia. Like the, um, other

other ways, like to just like calling it any, anywhere. way by versus any way like the administration is casino it is fucking mobsters but like the degree to which it's just completely remade like all these things that are supposed to be objective or oppositional is is pretty I mean it's yeah and it kind of allowed in this weird way it's like allows people with a lower income to act like the oligarchs who put money into things and say I think I can get this outcome if I back this political candidate. Yes.

And maybe then this oil company I've bought that's based in Venezuela can now be profitable or all these other things where you can see that there, this is just kind of, this is also how a lot of hyper wealthy people look at things too, except it's not betting on, you know, Tal She, it's putting money behind a specific political party or whatever. Yeah, that they know is going to pay out in some way or another, but because by putting money behind it, it like puts weight on the scale. Yeah, it is, I had that thought recently in, like, doing research for one of our upcoming icon episodes that, like, this is, the, the trouble administration is giving people the ability to cause play as rich people. So it's like, it allows them to, like, this allows them to pretend like they're, like, betting on the stock market or whatever.

This is the Robin Hood or Acorn of what happens in our lives. Yeah. This is like, hey, you. You too can be a part of if we murder someone for oil when really you can't. It's someone else, but you're going to help give them money as they do. Oh, you're not going to make as much money as Chevron. But you'll make a little bit. Yeah, yeah.

But you can get in on it too, like Chevron is. God, I hope they start doing lots of commercials with mixed race couples, living their best lives. Voting on cashy. That would be nice. That would be nice, actually. They'll be like the one token gay couple, too. Of course. We bought our first home.

If you paid attention to the commercials, if you own. owned a sweater, and you had a wife, you loved Robin Hood, and you got rich. All right, let's take a quick break, and we'll be back to talk about Duffman and Disneyland. Oh, thank God. Hi, I'm Dr. Priyankowali. And I'm Hurricane de Bolu. It's a new year, and on the podcast, Health Stuff, we're resetting the way we talk about our health. Which means being honest about what we know, what we don't know, and how messy it can all be.

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and we're going to dig into the latest and weirdest gadgets, gizmos and horrible AI gear that the tech industry is desperate to sell you, all while covering the biggest stories in Silicon Valley as the AI bubble threatens to burst. I'll be joined by David Roth, Chloe Radcliffe, Adam Conover, Corey Doctoro, Edon Gweso, Jr., Robert Evans, and an incredible cast of the greatest talent in the tech media, with over 18 hours of interviews, commentary and bizarre stories, all told from the Better Offline pop-up studio connected to its own open bar.

Today I did five hours of back-to-back panels on artificial intelligence. It included a number of great moments, including an entire room full of people, laughing about people losing their jobs due to artificial intelligence. Will we make it out alive? There's only one way to find out. Tune in starting January 6th through January 10th, 2026, and listen to the literal best tech podcast ever recorded. Listen to Better Offline on the IHot Radio app, Apple Podcasts,

wherever you happen to get your podcasts. Are you desperately hoping for change in 2020? 2016, but feeling stuck? Just spinning your wheels and old routines and bad habits. I'm Dr. Lari Santos. And in a new year series of my show, The Happiness Lab, I'm going to look at the science of getting, well, unstuck at work, unstuck in your relationships, and even unstuck inside your mind. I am the absolute worst culprit when it comes to getting into these ruminative loops and just driving myself crazy. We'll look at ways to reignite your sense of purpose, rediscover your values, and get more creative. We'll also

explore how to design a life that feels more fulfilling. It's sort of like the game of life. I don't know if you ever played that game. Oh my gosh, yes. You take the car along and you try and get money, and you try and get to the end where either you have a mansion or a ranch or a shack. And once you get to retirement, you're done. What about the whole path

along the way? So join me to get unstuck in 2026. Listen to the Happiness Lab on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your shows. You know, we always say New Year, New Me, but real change. starts on the inside. It starts with giving your mind and your spirit the same attention you give your goals. Hey everybody, it's Michelle Williams, host of checking in on the Black

Effect Podcast Network. And on my podcast, we talk mental health, healing, growth, and everything you need to step into your next season, whole and empowered. New Year, Real You. Listen to Checking in with Michelle Williams from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio, app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And actually, you said thank God, but these are two sad stories

about Duffman and Disneyland. I just wanted to stop talking about the casinoification of our fucking, like, war-torn earth. Yeah. This is a thing that happens every once in a while that, like, you're reminded that the Simpsons is still making TV shows and characters are being,

phased out. Yeah. Yeah. Including now Duffman. I didn't know this, but apparently the last episode, he hath been retired. So the whole thing wasn't like a straightforward like, and Duff Man died. They did like a parody of severance. And this, you know, this is like something that Duffman said.

It goes, the Duff Corporation has retired that character forever. All the forms of advertising are now passe. Corporate spokesman, print ads, TV spots. Today's kids can't even sing the jingles. Which is funny. He is a beer sales. Yeah, he's clearly aimed at children. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, dressed as like Mr. Milchick from Severance. So, like, apparently they were just kind of, people were just saying like, yeah,

that sort of him leaving is more just kind of a commentary on corporate culture and capitalism. But apparently like Hank Azaria was like very happy that he doesn't have to do that voice anymore because it's very taxing on his vocal courts on like Apu, which was very taxing on his. his soul, maybe, or not so much, but yeah. That was like some honey in his throat, the Apulana, actually. That's why he kept going with it. It was just really nice. Yeah, I mean, isn't that rough and he's like, oh, yeah.

I mean, I guess if you're doing that for numerous takes for hours, that's probably going to do so. There's not like Duffman had that many lines ever. No. A couple episodes. This is a Duffman episode. Yeah, yeah. Fuck.

Oh, you got to do a whole Duffman. But yeah, hey, he's not dead. though, I guess he's not dead. He's just, you know, just gone. He's on a nice farm. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's on a nice farm somewhere. Yeah. Should have bet on that on the last episode of the Simpsons you have watched because I have nephews who love The Simpsons and I was like, amazing. And then they were like, like, from the past two years. Those are the best episodes. I was like, oh, wow. I haven't seen a new episode of The Simpsons since season 15 maybe. Oh, wow. Yeah. It's been a while. I mean, because I'm such an old head. Like, I'm, I'm going like seasons two through eight constantly.

I'll put that on the background. I have this terrible disease called being a woman in comedy in 2012. And so anytime I watch The Simpsons, the ghosts of a thousand boyfriends and hookups visit me through the characters to let me know this is what true comedy is. And while it is a phenomenal show. It's not a phenomenal when a man with a mustache you never should have made out with visits you each time you watch. And so I haven't put it on in some time.

Yeah, yeah, for sure. It's like, I showed my son the Christmas episode because I was just trying to put Christmas stuff on. No, no, no, no. Oh, okay. It was like when I hadn't seen. But then I was just kind of like, I realized I'm like, man, I haven't checked on this show

in ages. Like for me, it's just a nostalgia. It's just nostalgia for me. from being a kid and watching it on TV like and yeah thank God I was into telling women about

City of God the Brazilian film Oh I would have preferred that I only got the Batman's and the Simpsons Oh I was like You never seen City of God Come through

Miles that hits so close Oh That was definitely a city of God These kids They're from the favelas dude They're not even actors That kid's crime for real

dude That kid's crime for real dude Look what he doesn't with the camera here. Look what he does with the camera. I can picture you both in bedrooms before you make, put your arm around a girl saying this. I love this best friend connection. How are the performance is

so good? And then we finished the movie. He's like, that was chill, right? She's like, yeah, that was pretty good. I go, you want to go my room? I don't know, like, look at some stuff. I want to look at my city of God collection. I've got the whole, I've got the whole Life Aquatic album on vinyl, but it's just Sue George

doing the David Bowie covers. You know, that was him, dude, and life aqua that's that's knockout net and we are different because I thought like life aquatic was overrated and I would I would tell women about what was wrong with what actually is like you're pausing it every time okay hold on he needed Owen Wilson okay this conversation it's like it's like I feel like I'm in inception I'm being pulled back into a dream yeah I want to go back into Oh, God. They'll take us back.

All right, let's move on to Disneyland. Oh, yeah. Where a brutal fight broke out last week after a group cut the line to catch up with other family members at the Indiana Jones Adventure. And apparently the cutter was the one throwing punches. And the person who objected to the cutting had to get stitches in his face. And his wife said that he refused to hit back. Based on, this person on Reddit claimed to be there. Clay, okay, yeah, yeah.

Said that you refused to hit back, not because it was the right thing to do, but because he didn't want to get blacklisted by Disney. Dude, that's the most Disney ass shit. Yeah. Someone's pummeling you and you're like, just don't get blacklisted. Just don't get blacklisted. Don't you dare.

Don't you dare hit back. Yeah. Get your ass. Get your shit split right now. But apparently this is a rising trend at Disney, which we've talked before how. Disney basically just kept raising the prices over the pandemic

made attendance drop at their parks. They were like, let's see how much we can get these fuckers to spend. And it is another one of those things where inelastic demand, people will go to Disney whether or not they have to spend you know.

Can I ask when's last time you to have been to Disneyland? I am taking my we're going for my kids' birthday because kids under three are free because we're like, bro, this is the last time you can't go for a minute. But the last time I went was two years ago with my nieces, yeah. Okay. Okay. What about you, Jack? We went, I think, a year and a half or two. It was for my eldest birthday, I think, seventh birthday. Okay, okay. So recently, you've been recently, you know, the game.

Yeah, but I don't go off. though. That visit last year, prior to that, I'd been maybe like eight or nine years. Okay. Okay. I think I went when I was a kid. I have no memory of it. I went as the first time as an adult three years ago. Best day of my life. Like I made Disney adult jokes and then I went to Disneyland. I was like, oh, I've been wrong. It was really nice. It was so nice to leave our shattered glass of reality that just cuts you every day and walk into heaven. And I think they're offering another fantasy, which is like, and you know what? Kick the shot to someone. And I mean, I think this is, it's not shocking because it's the same reason there were so many fights at Chuck E. Cheese is you have stressed out parents spread thin financially trying to make their kids happy. And just a small spark is all it takes for shit to kick off. Although Chuckie Cheese also serves alcohol, so there's that. But I think the other inputs are still there for Disneyland. And in the stress of our current times, it might as well be booze. So I'm not

You do see more and more kind of, like, conflict, like people getting out of hand at Disneyland and Disney World. I mean, did you see the fight that just happened at Broadway's Mamma Mia? No. A grown-ass man, I'm on his side, was screaming at a row of seven blonde women in a way where he was like, they're singing during the musical and they're ruining it for my nieces. And maybe they threw a cup at him. But it's like, yeah, we all just want some tiny, nice moment. to go and listen to ABA songs and pretend that everything's nice for a second. We just want to, like, eat our cotton candy, pretend everything's nice.

And if someone's going to try to take that away, got to kick the shit out of them. Right, right. I don't want to go back. I don't want to go back to reality so bad that I'm going to beat the shit. And get arrested. Because they're shattering my illusion. I will say you do research into, if you do research into, like, what to do where to go in Disneyland and, like, how to plan your day, that shit. will that that almost like ruined it for me the best parts of the experience of because people

are like you got a rope drop it if you're going to make that ride you got a rope drop you got to be there 30 minutes beforehand and then like hit this this this and the best part of the experience for me was just like chilling finding a place to like sit eat lunch and like watch the steamboat go by and you know what was that your seven year old child's ideal time i was going to say jack this is speaking more to your mental health than how to have a great day at disney Right. I'm trying to sit and watch a steamboat go by. Well, it's just like the overall atmosphere can be nice

if you're not like stressing out too much about everything that like you need to. You could have the same day by going to the library and sitting in the park that you've just described at Disneyland. No steamboat. Yeah. No damn steamboat. And at least the gangs at Disneyland, I know I could beat the shit out of them. You know what I mean? I'm not worried about those.

Yeah, there's gangs. Wait, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's magic rabbits. They're used to, I think they cleaned them up a little bit. I think they were largely driven by the season pass holders or the annual pass holders. People would just like get annual passes and then like the same groups of people would go there. And they had like patches, you know, like real gangs.

Like instead of having tattoos, they would have like jean jacket patches that would be like, you're a magic rabbit. This is such a reframe of the. word gangs. So you're talking like a bunch of adults had a denim jacket with like Mickey Mouse on it and became a gang. Yeah, like Disney villains. Oh my God. Yeah, you really want to have DV on your fucking vest. So there's toddlers and strollers in some of these gangs. How many of these like, so if you like really zoom in, you start seeing some Nazi shit in there too? You're like, hold on, hold on, hold on. See, now that's what I'm going to believe the gangs. We're like, we're the Aryan Mickey Mouse. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah. We're the Uber Mench Mickeys.

Yeah, but these just seem like fun clubs, right? Listen, we need more third spaces and we need community. So however you want to get it, join a gang at Disneyland. Yeah, just don't do it. My theory is that, like, one of the reasons Disneyland and post-apocalyptic movies hit so hard is because we just want a walkable city. And, like, those are the only places that we can go to, like, have that. It's like Europe or Disneyland and a post-pocalyptic wasteland.

Those are your options. All out on Amazon. A lot of walk-a- Otherwise, you're going to get hit by a car. That's our promise to you in America. Chelsea, such a pleasure, as always, having you on the daily zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? Come listen to my podcast, Glamorous Trash.

We're dropping a heated rivalry episode. Ashley Chisdell leaving her mom group. We talk about Mormon wives, but also we do, we mostly do books. We do books and viral articles. So come listen to Glamourish Trash. Ashley Tisdale is the one that's Wollen, right? Yes, I think when you read it, you're sort of like, you're the villain and your own story. But then Hillary Duff's husband came out and did a bit sort of letting us all know that Ashley Tisdell's the villain, which is so believable.

But when your husband gets involved, now it's flipped. Why is the husband getting involved in the drama? Maybe it's Hillary. I don't know. Something to unpack. Juicy. Well, I feel like this would be an entire episode if I asked the next follow-up question I had. So we're going to move forward.

Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Well, I think I shouted out a million of them, but to shout out another one, I will shout out the cinematographer and aspiring director who has a TikTok account where she recreates the heated rivalry lighting and shots and takes you through like how to light a scene to make it look that way. And I got to tell you, I think she just spawned like a thousand new female DPs and I love it. That's great. Yeah. I mean, what a great way to just show off the skills. Let me find out her. I got, I should drop her handle. Let me look her up. Okay, wait, here she is. It's Valentina V, VE, and she does all of her talking head videos explaining the cinematography in the exact same lighting. She's using like anamorphic lens. So when you're watching her videos, it looks like heated rivalry as she talks about how to shoot heated rivalry.

nice miles where can people find you is there work a media you've been enjoying yeah find me everywhere at miles of gray uh check out for 20 day fiancee with sophia alexandra we're gonna get back into it this week uh and also check out the new football soccer podcast ena footy with me jemelle johnson and chris martin not of cold play just of regular stand-up fame um yeah so check that out more just it's a good time it's a good time uh work of media i like uh What was I? No, I've just, I've just been cramming the new 90-day fiancé. Guys, it's, there's a, there's, there's, there's some really interesting stuff this season. A lot of new people on the show that I really appreciate because I hate when they bring back old cast members. We've just got a new group of absolute weirdos. And I love it. And I love it.

That's very exciting. Yeah. Fresh meat. Oh, yeah. It's a creepy way of saying that, but. You got to go talk. Oh, my city of God. Fresh meat, yeah, yeah.

And, hey, and if you want to know about city of God, find me in the year 2005. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien, Blue Sky, Jack O, B, the number one, Instagram, Jack underscore O, underscore Brian. I like to keep it consistent. I like to tweet from Brent at Merman 5, who tweeted me. I'm going to start a band called LMFAO, my uncle. Can I be in it?

Which is the conversation that actually must have happened. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zekegeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode, wherever you're listening to it. And there at the bottom, you will find the footnotes. Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about. In today's episode, we also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, you've been playing a lot of great songs before we start recording.

Is there a song that you think that people might enjoy? Yeah, yeah, there's a track. Mickey, one of my favorite artists for the last year or two. I've recently, we went out on one of the tracks, Rockman, which is a single he came up. I found like an edit of it that's kind of more dancey. That's really dope. So this is McGee, the Rockman 360 edit. It's spelled T-H-R-E-E-S-I-X-T-Y.

You're going to have to find that on the SoundCloud. But it's dope. It's dope. If you like McGee, this is like a good, nice remix for you. And if you don't, you're going to fuck with it, too. So McGee, Rockman, 360 edit. Check it up. We'll link off to that on the SoundCloud in the footnotes.

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