The Daily Zeitgeist - Do You Hear Laurel Or Yanni? Problematic Tech Giants 5.16.18

Episode Date: May 16, 2018

In episode 149, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Laci Mosley to discuss Solange's selfie game, the recent primaries across the US and women and progressives sweeping them, North Korea getting cold feet about peace talks with the US, Airbnb and it's history of racism, Uber updating it's sexual harassment/assault claims policy, the infamous yanny/laurel debate of the internet, the dine and dash date scammer, and more!  Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 31, Episode 3 of Data Daily Zeitgeist! For May 16th, 2018, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jacksation Without Representation. That is courtesy of Salt Davies, at Salt the Kid, and also courtesy of Washington, D.C. and Puerto Rico. And I am thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray, you can't satisfy their needs. Zeitgang coming back to hear me do it.

Miles Gray, Miles Gray. What I say goes. Zeitgang in control Wow. That was a very beautiful harmony. Thank you so much with the backing vocals by me, Jack O'Brien. I got you, King.

Jack O'Brien. Thank you. That was a self-made AKA today I've been going through and I just was feeling some usher, so thank you to me. I will pat myself on the back.

Thank you, At My House. You have a little JT thing going there a little bit. Yeah, you know, go thank you to me. I will pat myself on the back. Thank you, At My House. You have a little JT thing going there a little bit. Yeah, you know, go find some new things. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat just by one of the greats. She is one of the funniest performers at UCB and just a funny comedian. One of the great Texans. One of the great Texans ever.

She is Lacey Mosley. What's up? Hey, what's up? Hi, what's up? It's Lacey Mosley, a.k.a. Paul Gonzalez. Okay. You need to elaborate a bit. Just what I go by sometimes.

That's what I go by. So should I change your pronouns then? Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I just like scams. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I'm just making sure. I just like scams. Oh, okay. Oh, right. Oh, okay. That's why, yeah, when we had lunch, you hit me with that Venmo from that Venmo account.

I was like, who the fuck is Paul Rodriguez? You're like, yeah, charge Paul. Yeah. I'm like, okay. Hey, do what you got to do. Listen. Hey, social security number. What is, what's something from your search history, Lacey, that is revealing about who

you are or not? Just something from your search history, Lacey, that is revealing about who you are or not? Just something from your search history. So something from my search history, I just looked this up, is Home Depot mirror glass. Okay. Okay. So recently Solange had took some real fire selfies with some glass. So it was like she held the glass up and then she had her phone. And so it was taking a picture of like her face and

the reflection behind her was like this beautiful like foliage and shit oh yeah yeah i saw that shit right right yeah yeah then she had some like artsy ass table set up and shit in front and it was because then you could get two selfies in one right kind of like two environments it was real fly i was like bitch i gotta go to home dep and get some glass. The game is being stepped up. So, you know, I got to make sure I'm a part of it. Wait, so why Home Depot? You're just like, I think that's where I can get some mirrored glass. I mean, you don't want the glass.

Like, Solange's glass was like artsy and smooth on the sides. You don't want like a handheld mirror. You know what I mean? Right, right, right. If you're going to do it, you got to do it right. I'm having a hard time envisioning this. Oh, you are? Hold on. I got a screenshot. Like that. Ooh. Ain to do it, you got to do it right. I'm having a hard time envisioning this. Oh, you are? Hold on.

I got a screenshot. Like that. Ooh. Ain't that fire? Oh, she's doing it everywhere. Oh, it's lit. I didn't even see the one with the boat. Oh, and it was just like handheld.

Lacey, your Google search history is about to be a boat. Oh, my God. How do I get a boat? How do I go to Italy? Listen, because I'm always trying to, you know, people like to judge people who take selfies. People take selfies are lonely and all that. No, sometimes people just- Are to judge people who take selfies. Like, oh, people take selfies, they're lonely and all that. No, sometimes people just.

Are narcissists. Okay, listen. It's the difference between being a narcissist and being your favorite thing to think about. That's right. Sometimes being a narcissist and falling in love with your reflection. With yourself. You know what I mean? Sometimes you are just a great photographer whose favorite subject is yourself.

There you go. If you see yourself in a puddle or a shallow pool and you diving. Yeah, try and catch it. Follow Lacey on Instagram. She's a great follow. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. The stories are content. Your stories could be a show.

If anybody's out there developing a show, watch Lacey's stories. For real. Give us a show. Lacey, what's something that's overrated? Oh, okay. Makeup. And this is weird because y'all know I love makeup. You were just beating your face.

I was. I put on makeup to be on the radio. I sound better this way, don't I? Don't I? Honey, this is a podcast. Tweet me. Tell me I sound better. I know I do with the makeup on.

But just because lately everybody's coming out with a palette. J-Lo got a palette Kim K got 35 palettes and I'm like to the little girls out there listening to the daily second

we got lots of for your nine year old girls out there about to go into fourth grade there is makeup that will change your life and no it is not

found at CVS I will say that there is some stuff that can really glow you up and get you to that next level however every cream stick and contour stick ain't about to make you look off-look. And half y'all don't know how to use that shit anyway, so y'all just be out here looking crazy.

What you need to do is send away to Lacey Mosley's makeup tips. Yes. With social security number. Cash at me your social security number, and I'm going to get y'all some makeup that work for y'all's shape. That's what you tell these young women.

The makeup you were looking for cannot be found at CVS but between the front and back pages of Iyanla Van Zandt's book tap into power within. That's where you were going. I don't know why

I thought you were going to talk about Iyanla. Save my life. Absolutely not. Iyanla is crazy as fuck. If it was anybody else I would have expected there to be like, and that makeup is a better opinion of yourself. But it being you, I knew you were just going to be like,

but it's really expensive. It's NARS. Y'all can't fuck with NARS. Y'all beat y'all's faces if y'all want to. I'm just saying you don't have to buy everything out there. But I actually really look up to a Yanla because when I get old, I'm going to just use my old black lady cred to say crazy shit too.

Because Ayanna said nothing wise or deep to nobody. What was the clip I saw on Joel McHale's show where she was making somebody rap their lyrics to pictures of Harriet Tubman and Rosa Parks? Yes, that was Hazel E. Oh, it was Hazel E, right. She's like, tell me you're proud of these lyrics and spit them at Rosa Parks.

Oh, that's a picture of Rosa Parks. Get money, clap my butt, clap, clap. And then Rosa just looking at her like. Now say it to Harriet Tubman, sister. I freed the slaves. It was crazy. Yeah, it was insane. But for good gesture, I'm going to get some implants.

I'm going to get some larger titties. Because when you're an old black lady, you got to have big titties for people to cry on. Oh, right, right, right. Come here child yeah that's it yeah and child calling you child i'm like well you are now my grandmother no d just chat oh baby you're a hot mess also uh for people who don't know when i said beat your face i'm not talking about punching somebody in the face because i had this conversation with a person who did not understand the vernacular uh that means to put makeup on, you know, get your beat on.

You know, if you watch Drag Queens, you know what that is. But I'm not saying to assault your face. Oh, no. Put your beat on. No, I appreciate it. A good beat means you're really beating that brush real hard. Beat that face. So, yeah, you got to let people know.

Each one teach one. Lacey, what is something that's underrated? Ooh, the show Good Girls on NBC. Okay. They're not sponsoring this show. I just love this show. Have you heard of this show? Maybe you should think about it, Good Girls on NBC.

I'm trying to keep it on the air. Oh, I have heard of this. Yeah. They're bank robbers. Yeah, yeah. It's basically the plot of Mad Money and the cast of Mad Money, but recast for TV. The cast of Mad Money? Mad Money was this Diane Keaton movie with Queen Latifah.

Oh, right, right, right. It's like all the ladies have to rob a bank. Which, you know, for one, I am annoyed that lady bank robber movies always got to be motivated by love and some little kid being sick and shit. Like, why can't bitches just rob banks because they want bags? And, you know, they just want the bag. In my mind, I was like, why can't bitches just rob banks because they want bags? And, you know, they just want the bag. In my mind, I was like, why can't they just be thugs? I was like, fuck that.

Thugs, they want the bag. No, every movie you see where a woman's robbing a bank, she first has to have, like, her life fall apart. Her kid gotta be crippled. Like, why can't she just want money? Like, men.

She's like, wait, a Birkin bag costs what? You never see men in movies like, oh, man. Yeah. I gotta take care of my grandma. That's not how Ocean's Eleven starts. They just rhyme and shit. They're just rhyming fucking do's to get his wife back. But it's a cute TV show.

You can actually binge it on Hulu. And I just don't want it to get canceled because it's very exciting. Now, do you like it because you have an affinity with the scam life? I do. I've gotten tips and tricks from that show for real. You'd be surprised how much stuff you can still get away with if you just act confidently. But the show has not been canceled? No.

I'm pretty sure it got renewed, but I just want to make sure it stays on the air. Y'all tune in. Okay. All right. Because it's good. Nobody's talking about it. Is the pilot good? Yes, the pilot was good. The pilot is even good? It's cute. It's very good. Nobody's talking about it. Is the pilot good? Yes, the pilot was good.

The pilot is even good? It's cute. It's very cute. I forget who it was. I think it was Danny who came on and said to watch Schitt's Creek with Eugene Levy and stuff. No, watch Schitt's Creek. I need y'all to start watching stuff on Pop. I absolutely watched Schitt's Creek.

I did. No, I started to. Especially January 2019. Why? What's going on? I can't say. Uh-oh. Wait, what?

I can't talk about it, but y'all watch that show. Watch that channel. Watch this space. Watch that channel. But to say yes, I want to watch Schitt's Creek, but the pilot was losing me a little bit,

but I'm going to endure it. I'm going to get through it because I love Canada. Shout out to Canada. I'm looking at Mad Money, the movie, because Mad Money to me is that Jim Cramer show

where he's like, buy, buy. It's inspired by that shot. So apparently there was a movie that he stole his show's name from and the cover is just the most dated 2008 thing because it's got Queen Latifah and Katie Holmes and they're like holding money

and I just can't buy Katie Holmes as like this person who's like, I don't know. She'll just always be an affected teen. This is the role of her life. Right. This was way better than Dawson. She was random in this movie.

It was like, Katie, what are you doing here? Oh, yes, very dated. I cannot buy that. Yeah. It looks like she's confused by holding money. She's like, what is this? She's got a handful of cash and she's like, money?

For all we know, that was a steal from her real life. She was trying to leave Tom Cruise. She was like, do I have enough yet? So Good Girls on NBC and Pop TV. Is that the name of the channel? January 2019. Yeah, Pop TV.

Oh, this is starting to make sense because I was watching her stories and she was alluding to certain things. Interesting. Okay. Miles, you were saying Schitt's Creek. You checked it out and the pilot wasn't good. The pilot was slow,

but I love... Comedy pilots. Yeah, comedy pilots are never... They're tough. Yeah, they're tough. That's why I asked if it's lit from the pilot. It's a dramedy.

That is a gas joke for all my water heater people out there. It's lit from the pilot. Oh, yeah. Very good. Come on, water heater people. Come on, go elegant. Also, anyone in the Zeit gang,

if you're a plumber, please contact me because I'm trying to attach a thing under my sink to put an ice maker in my new refrigerator that I have to go leave to get pretty soon. Thank you. Oh, you are going to get so much feedback from dudes who are like. There's so much feedback. The thing you got to understand, man. Just dudes sweating their legs out and being like, I don't know, the thing you got to. Honestly, I'll take that because just wait till I come in here soaking wet tomorrow from trying to get them. Anyway.

Lacey, what is a myth? What's something that people think is true that you know to be false? You can't catch up on sleep. I know. It sucks. And technically, I guess if you want to be this type of human being, apparently, I was researching this further because when I was in college, it was just a hard fact. You just couldn't catch up on sleep. But apparently, if you add in a couple hours, extra hours each night over the course of several nights.

But I was like, that's not what people want. If I stay up, I stayed up maybe last week until four in the morning. And now my sleep pattern's been thrown for a week. Just from that one night? Yes, because then I slept in the morning and now my sleep pattern's been thrown for like a week just from that one night yes because then i like slept in the next morning and then i stayed up because i had a bunch of shows and shit all night and so it just continued because i ended up having so many shows at night until now the past two days i've been like meditating i go to sleep with like the sounds of rain playing on youtube all night long i have a i used to go to sleep with a sound machine in college

because I was so stressed I could not sleep. And I had to get this NASA-approved one that had certain brainwave frequencies. NASA? Oh, you fancy? How much money did you have in college? I have no money to give NASA. Well, let me tell you.

I used to work at the Coach Store at the mall. And what I did was I switched out. I did a trade for some Brookstone gift certificates. I'm like, look, I'm going to give you my employee discount for this ergo bag because everybody wants to. Yeah, it's a scam. You know what I mean? So you make money how you got to get it. Listen, I appreciate it.

The podcaster Bill Simmons, sports guy, used to be at ESPN. Now he's the head of the ringer. He has this. One of his more problematic theories is he was like, tell you what, you you become 20 crazier if you're a woman when every kid you have you become 20 crazier so what if you have six you're beyond 100 right yeah apparently but i i really think that it's i i really know it's true i think it's true no i i notice it happening to me i think it's like you build up a sleep debt and you just never recover from the sleep debt when you have a kid

because you just don't sleep for like six months and then you just your mind doesn't work as well and then you can't make that sleep debt up ever again. Ever again? Really? I don't know. Well also like the older you get the less sleep you need but I think I don't know. Your body doesn't sleep as well

so My mom always said that. She's like when you have a kid you just don't sleep. You don't know. Your body doesn't sleep as well. My mom always said that. She was like, when you have a kid, you just don't sleep. You don't sleep as well because you're worried about them. Right, exactly. My mom used to – mom's crazy as fuck. I love her. She's a queen.

But she used to let me go out places. I lived in the suburbs, so the only place to really go out was the mall. Every parent would just drop their kids off at the mall. Pick you up at 930. Right? And my mom would never let me do it. But one time I really convinced her to let out was like the mall like every parent would just drop their kids off at the mall and my mom would never let me do it but one time i really convinced her let me go to the mall and then she dropped me off at the mall and she called me 45 minutes later she was like god told me you need to come home like what i had that with my dad too he would just like get these feelings and be like no you can't stay out tonight. And just be like, what? And then he was usually right. It was really weird. He predicted 9-11, right?

Yeah, yeah. No, it was 9-11, yeah. No, but I just think I also think that it's like, because God damn it. Sorry. I think it's also because... Is that your dad again? Yeah. He's like, get out of there now. Stop recording the show. Go, go, go. Who was on the side guys today? Lacey?

Oh, no. No, no, no. No, but I was saying about the Simmons thing is I feel like he's the type of guy who would let his wife do all the staying up at night parenting. So he's like, she's crazy. Yeah, he's like, right, exactly. Like, Bill, you going home? Dude, I don't know. I'm a fucking wife, dude.

I'm telling you, she's getting 20% more crazy with every kid. I'm going to go back. She's going to be like, why aren't you home? Take care of these kids. I'm like, you're the fucking mom. You haven't been home in three days i'm the fucking dad right let's play house uh nate dog sorry yeah a little nate dog i haven't heard that you'd be the mommy and i'll be the dad child uh all right we're trying to take a sample of the global shared consciousness what people are thinking and talking about right now.

And we wanted to open up with a little primary watch. Primary watch. Yeah, primaries. Some primaries happened last night. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And looks like, man, Pennsylvania is turning a different shade of red because I'm pretty sure four women who are backed by the Democratic Socialists of America won their state legislature primaries in Pennsylvania. Some were uncontested and some against like traditional kind of centrist Dems. But Sarah Ina Marato and Summer Lee, they brought the progressive ideals fucking hard.

Summer Lee, especially she was campaigning on things like ending cash bail, $15 an hour minimum wage, creating a millionaire's tax, moratorium on prison building, 100% renewable energy, universal free pre-kindergarten, child care, abortion rights, a free college. I mean, yes, this woman won on this platform. Not to mention if Lee wins in the general election, she could be the first black woman elected to the state legislature from Southwestern PA. So, yeah, women and progressives had a lot of wins, not to mention in Nebraska, Kara Eastman, who I think was a former local nonprofit president. She beat former U.S. Congressman Brad Ashford. And, you know, Eastman campaigned on the same sort of not total socialist kind of agenda, but she was campaigning on Medicare for all, you know, decriminalizing marijuana, ending Citizens United. And she narrowly beat Brad Ashford, who was like, you know, an establishment guy, you know, like Obama, like he's, you know,

he's chilling with Obama in the past. He's kind of the safe choice. So again, it looks like there's a lot of energy for going left of center. So take note, DCCC, because that's where the energy is. Right. And yeah, in Pennsylvania, a couple of things, too, is that the Democratic turnout was pretty big. They cast 100,000 more votes than Republicans did. And I know last week we were talking about what was going on, the blue wave or whatever. Well, you know, let's let's not get too excited yet, but let's just take everything in stride. Because, I mean, also to mention in Pennsylvania, there were a couple primaries that were just all Democratic candidates.

So that could also add to it. But nonetheless, good turnout. And also in Pennsylvania, they still have no female members in Congress at all. So let's try and get this changed. I think it's guaranteed that there will be at least one. I think there is at least one race in Pennsylvania where it's women going against each other. So we'll no longer be all male. Yeah. Yeah. It seems like a situation where going to the base, like the Republicans went to

the base with Trump and it went against know, went against everything, all conventional wisdom that you hear from people who are experts in electoral politics. You have to go centrist. You have to, like, do the triangulation Clintonian thing. And then when they went to the base, they suddenly just bucked all predictions. And, you know, Trump did incredibly well. And I think you're going to see the same thing if the Democrats are willing to, you know, buck conventional wisdom and actually, you know, get behind candidates who are willing to step up and support things that people are actually, you know, the people, the masses are actually excited about. Yeah. Also in Pennsylvania, Republican Lou Barletta, he won, he narrowly won his primary race,

despite spending nearly eight times more than his more moderate opponent. He even had like the explicit endorsement of Trump. He pretty much, he underperformed pretty severely. And a lot of the GOP sort of strategists are kind of like, we don't know if we want this guy to go up against Bob Casey in November because Lou Barletta is like of just a problematic, obnoxious xenophobe who like, you know, when he was mayor of a town was like, I'm going to file criminal charges if you hire illegal aliens. Like English is the official language of this town.

Like he's just kind of on that sort of nationalistic, you know, anti-immigrant stance. So, yeah, that's another thing to check out in Pennsylvania because now they may have a little bit of a tough time against Bob Casey, but we'll see. So that Republican going to the base, you know, using xenophobia, that has not been working as well in these primaries. Not as much. And the guy he was running against, I mean, he was pretty central in terms of like, you know, his landing page wasn't like him wrapped up in American flags, like putting immigrants on a bus or anything. It was just kind of like, you know, he's about openness, transparency, accountability at all levels of government. So it seems like he's a perfect sort of balance to what this other guy was running for.

But yeah, I mean, this guy, Christiana, he only had like, I think, $250,000. And this Barletta campaign, they spent close to $2 million. So even with the money, you barely won. All right. Let's take a quick break and then we'll come right back. Hey, I'm Bruce Bozzi. On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guest you could possibly ask for. People like Matt Bomer. Thank you for that introduction. I'm going to slip you a couple of 20s under the table for that.

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Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people.

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that Trump Nobel Peace Prize just on hold momentarily. I'm not saying it's not going to happen, but there just is. It's looking like the North Korea talks might be in danger. Stalling out a little bit. Yeah, stalling out a little bit. And this is actually how I know that I'm not a true partisan because when I heard this, I wasn't,

like I'm not rooting against this. I actually felt my stomach sort of turn when I was like ah fuck they're fucking this up this morning because I don't know like I don't want North Korea to be holding a nuclear weapon pointed at my family and me all the time so basically North Korea is threatening to reconsider peace talks if the US and South Korea don't knock off their military exercises, because we'd already, I guess, done some naval exercises in April, and apparently some other things that are pissing them off. Kim Jong-un doesn't like the fact that Trump is saying the meeting is straight up about

denuclearization, like he did at the hostage release celebration greeting event directed by Michael Bay. And he got out a little bit over his skis. You could tell that he'd already converted these North Korea talks into like campaign talking points. And he was like, yeah, you know, we're going to get denuclearization. And, you know, he totally forgot that Kim Jong-un was listening because Kim Jong-un was like, all right, man, let's not spike the football just yet. We're not totally on board with that.

And around the same time, John Bolton, our new head of... Who literally looks like a fucking Muppet. Right. Said basically the worst thing he possibly could have. Right. He said... Don't say Libya. Don't say Libya.

Right. Exactly. He said that we're planning to use the Libya model in conversations with North Korea, which is basically evoking Kim Jong-un's number one fear about the talks because, uh, Libya denuclearized and, you know, not too long after that, their dictator was brutally murdered in the streets by like mobs. Uh, so the, so one reason that he is like raised, like the, the idea that he would never take his nuclear weapons off the table. Look what happens when you do.

Right. Is look what happened to Libya and fucking Bolton just straight up. It's crazy, too, because Kim Jong Un, I think he took power like the day after Gaddafi was killed. Right. Like his first day in the job. He's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. And yeah, like everyone was saying, don't say Libya. Yeah. So it's so easy.

But again, they are just so thirsty for a fucking win. So fucking thirsty. Can you wait until the shit is signed? Can you wait until the deal is brokered? But I think people were a little naive, and everyone, myself included, to sort of just immediately jump to the conclusion because Trump was like, oh, he's really open to do something he's really going to do something here and to know that the uh his his nuclear arsenal is his only bargaining chip in this thing so he cannot give that up just like that without any getting anything back so i don't know i mean trump is the deal master so i guess we'll just wait and see oh wait he caved to china on the fucking ZTE deal, the telecoms deal, or not the deal, but rather punishing them.

And then maybe, who knows, if Kim Jong-un is like, you know what, let me see what I can get out of this dude now, too. But this follows a pattern with North Korea of being like, yeah, we're down, we're down, we're down, we're down. And then the talks break down or collapse. We're down, we're down, we're down. And then the hawks break down or collapse. Yeah. Now that I'm totally bummed out about the prospect of them falling apart, I'm realizing I'm becoming very pessimistic about the likeliness that they succeed because we're basically counting on two overly sensitive and capricious pathological narcissists not to offend each

other before in the lead up or during this meeting and uh i don't know north korea it seemed like they were just like you know eyes on the prize they were focused on doing this meeting and accomplishing whatever uh south korea had convinced them to accomplish but now that they've sort of wobbled a little bit i i feel much less optimistic about where this is headed i won't lie i had a little bit, I feel much less optimistic about where this is headed. I won't lie, I had a little bit of hope. I did too.

When you get two crazies together like that for all, you know they speak the same language. You can't be sane trying to talk to a crazy person. But if you're both crazy, I'll be in there just like, we're on the same page.

I just wish that everything didn't have to, like I do appreciate the government being transparent, but it's like with Trump, it's like one, he's always lying to us so it's not transparency it's like so just hold off yeah well he just likes to make it look things much better than they are but you know uh it's it's not totally dead in the water but it's just right yeah it's just i think what it is just a reality check they're like yo hold the fuck up bro don't go being like hey they're

gonna fully denuclearize and we're going to give them nothing back. Because that was their main thing is that like, if these talks are just for you to come to Singapore and be like, come up off your nuclear weapons and that's it. They're like, no, we're not doing that. And so I think, you know, obviously he's trying to set himself up, Kim Jong-un, to be like, OK, we are going to have to work on shit. There will have to be concessions made for this to be a reasonable

negotiation. But, you know, we'll see. Pompeo is dangling the idea that once they denuclearize, American businesses will pour in and invest in North Korean infrastructure and North Korea.

When you look at the globe from space at night, all the other countries are lit up and North Korea, when you look at the globe from space at night, all the other countries are lit up and North Korea is just completely dark. There's a lot of infrastructure to add to that country and a lot of money to be made. So Pompeo was saying that you're going to see a lot of American businesses if we open up trade with North Korea and if they are willing to denuclearize. So that's a bargaining chip we have, but I mean, it's also a bargaining chip that we had with Iran. And you didn't see a ton of American business

pour in there because it seemed like- The McDonald's weren't in Iran after that? Yeah, we didn't. Definitely not. It seemed like who knew what was going to happen with the nuclear deal. And now we've shown that we back out of those. So, all right, let's move on to

a brief history of Airbnb and racism. So Airbnb had an incident the other day where the neighbor of four people who were renting an Airbnb for Airbnb, waved to them. An old white woman waved to them. The four people who were renting the Airbnb happened to be three black women and a white woman. And so their neighbor, this elderly lady, waved to them. They didn't wave back. We don't know why, but they didn't wave back. And she immediately called the police and said that there were suspicious people. As they were checking out of their Airbnb, they were greeted by seven police cars. And by the way, when she called the police, she described three suspicious individuals, not four.

Oh, because the white woman? Yeah. They were like three suspicious women and a hostage, I think. Right. Usually if you have the white person, I mean, being black, you know, when you have a white person. You go tell the white person to do the white people shit. Go over there and talk to that white lady. Or usually that helps make you seem less suspicious.

But the white lady probably didn't wave either. And then was like oh she must be in distress right that's that was a symbol just usually like because i remember as a kid like in retrospect when i think about the wild shit i did when i was with white kids and did it no problems never like whenever police anything involved and you realize you think that in this situation that this person i don't know this just could be my weird hindsight of my life but but that the old lady would be like, oh, well, there's a white woman maybe co-signing for these people so I can suspend my racism. The ratio was off. If it had been three white women and one black person, she would have been like, oh, the cleaning lady. Okay.

They're showing her what Rialto has to offer. Now, the homeowner came back, the person whose Airbnb it was, came back and blamed them for not waving to the woman. Get the fuck out of here. Now, we don't know why they didn't wave back. Maybe they didn't see her. Because they don't owe that white lady a wave. Yeah, there's also that. And also, it's just worth noting that this wave

from a white woman might not have been as friendly and neighborly as she might have perceived it to be. She was testing them to see if they were the good kind or the bad kind. By wave, she looked through her curtains and called the police.

She didn't wave. She looked through her curtains and dialed 911. Oh, lying ass. Because we know that when white people call the cops on black people, one, they don't wave. They lying. Two, they done already added several weapons to your person. We just saw a man in a hoodie.

He had a knife between his teeth and two guns in his hand. And an eye patch. And an old musket. And he was walking into the Waffle House. Like, what? I don't understand, like, what do, and this is a serious question, is there a sign that us as people of color can give to white

people to let you know, not, are we looked upon that everybody is a criminal and thug? Can I do something like, hi, I'm a fucking human being. I don't assume all people of any race could be perpetrators of violence or crime or whatever. In my theory, the white people have sent out a new blotter. They sent out a new flyer and they were like, we got a new form of oppression.

Call the police on black people for being asleep at their dorms in college, for walking down the street. You know what I mean? Chances are they'll get murdered. It happens. You know what i mean chances are they'll get murdered it happens you know what i mean like you go for a jog next thing you know you got 12 warning shots in your back because you're holding your cell phone and you are like it i mean there's really nothing that we can do because it's there's the police are here to police and control people of color and to make sure that we don't get too much yeah you know they're here to murder us and so white people

calling the cops, like, please be aware out there, like, when you call the cops on someone who's suspicious, they better be suspicious. If you just feel uncomfortable, that's not the same. You're putting somebody's life at risk. You're putting someone's life at risk, and you are knowingly, not even just complicit,

you're involved in that person's murder. Well, it's like, you know, it's like showing your freedom papers or some shit. That's what it is. You a runaway? But it's okay because black people, we sent out a newsletter too. And we're going to start calling the cops on y'all from burner phones. Like, hi. This woman is at Popeye's.

This is a woman out here kicking a dog. She's kicking the dog and she's throwing away avocado at the same time. Get out here immediately. Now, I do wonder if it's happening more now or if we're just noticing it more now as there are more social media

more places that people can report it but it also I could see it being the fact that as we get more divided as a country there are just more white people who only encounter people of color on Fox News when crimes

are being reported. And so maybe they're just more scared white people out there. I'm here to tell you white people, I'm not here to harm you in any way. Well, why y'all scared of us when y'all murdering us? This is a fun-ass narrative y'all set up of us being scary, yet every time I turn around, it's y'all killing us. Because y'all scared. Can I be scared then? I've told y'all, up of us being scary yet every time i turn around is y'all killing us because y'all scared can i be scared yeah i'm told y'all i'm gonna be scared of every time i walk past a whole

fools i shut up right or just or like even as a man like you know i have to like you have to come off non-threatening sometimes oh well you really fucking smile you know like really smile at people yeah hi man how you doing because women are afraid of men too like that's yeah but even like in a racial context too like you have to, the idea of this violent black man or whatever exists. So the only way you can disarm that without verbally addressing it

is to just appear like, oh, I'm a jovial person. I'm nice. And that's kind of, you know. I was going to jokingly suggest that if you get an Airbnb, you have to go door to door and be like,

hi, how are you? We're renting the Airbnb. But also people will, yeah, you'll get shot. I was just going to say that's happened. You get a fucking how are you? We're renting the Airbnb. If you go door to door, you get shot. Yeah, you'll get shot. I was just going to say that's happened. You get a fucking 12-gauge slug through the door. Yeah, and this is actually... Airbnb has had some problematic policies in the past

or problematic instances where people would not rent to people of color. That's why that one white lady was in the group. She had her face on the page. Exactly. And I was telling Jack,

with my girlfriend, who is white, I will have her book the Airbnb because there have been times when I've done it and it's like, oh, sorry, like the booking had to be canceled. Five minutes later, she does it and they're like, you're all good. Oh, I book places where the owner is not on the property

and I have a white person name, Lacey mostly. So I leave my name up and then I just go to stock photos and get me a nice happy white bitch eating a salad. That's my profile photo. Oh, yeah, that's what I have to do is racially catfish people now through Airbnb. Yeah. There's also an Asian woman who rented an Airbnb, drove four hours to Big Bear. She was going to go skiing with her friends. And when she got to the door, the woman turned her away and responded like in text message.

I wouldn't rent to you if you were the last person on earth. One word says it all, Asian. You got to make sure that they're not home. Right. Right. There you go. I don't even get it, yo. Wow. Wow. Right. Right. Yeah, there you go. I don't even get it, yo. Wow. Wow, wow, wow.

But so Airbnb has tried to address this by they created a deal with the NAACP where the NAACP would get a 20% commission on every black host they recruited for the Airbnb site. So it's a pyramid scam now?

Yeah, basically. And they're trying to blackwash with the NAACP, basically? Essentially. I think it's probably the best. Because you're not going to get people to, Airbnb is different because you can't get people to open up their homes. It's not a public business. So if people want to be, look, this is my one place where I'm like, if you want to be

racist in your house, in your house, get your racism all turn up you know whatever that means for you um but outside of your home you can't act that way so if i think getting more people of color to rent their places out is probably the only viable solution because truth be told we're not going to change the hearts and minds of these people who have decidedly chose to be fucked up yeah or yeah just decide that every person of color is a threat to them. And this is one of the last just openly racist industries in America. Not like covertly, but real estate is basically still openly racist, ruled by redlining.

Try and get a fucking home loan. Yeah, try and get a home loan in a white neighborhood. I mean, their instant booking thing did kind of help solve some of the biases that a host might have because it's just sort of like, well, this is the person that has the money and can be there. So, you know, you can't look at them or vet them to decide whether or not you can host them or not. But you can't shut that door when they get there. Yeah, but it's just it is what it is. And this is part of the long continuing trend of doing anything while black. It is what it is.

And this is part of the long continuing trend of doing anything while black. Yeah. And it's funny because I feel like so many times I hear white people, even well-meaning white people, like, well, you guys bring up race so much. And that's also the problem. And it's like, no, we I have to think about blackness is an insecurity that I had to realize I had so that I could control it. Because I would show up places and be like, oh, do they even know I'm black? Right. I get there like no one told you all that I was control it. Because I would show up places and be like, oh, do they even know I'm black when I come? Yeah, exactly.

I get there like, no one told y'all that I was black. Or a job interview. Yeah. You come out, they're sitting there looking around, and you're the only person. They're like, oh, Miles? And you're like, oh, yeah, that's me. They're like, oh, you sounded different on the phone. Oh, with a name like Lacey?

I used to babysit in my neighborhood. And it's a very white neighborhood. And people have money. But I used to just babysit my neighborhood, and it's a very white neighborhood, and people have money. But I used to just babysit because I just wanted to. And I would leave these little door tags on people's doors, and then they would call me and be like, hi, Lacey. And I'd be like, hi.

Oh, you want to babysit your kids? Yeah, man, for sure. And then I'd get there, and I'd be like, hey, where your key is at? I hope y'all got some food in there for years. And they'd always be like, oh my god, you're Lacey? Yeah. Yeah, the trend continues. You know what I mean?

Because even just, there was like someone, like yesterday, a guy in, I think Memphis or something, he was like a real estate investor and was looking at a home to like just do an inspection to flip it. A woman called the cops on him. They called the police on a black police officer who was looking for shell casings outside of like a crime scene like there's a black man out here in police clothes yeah like you mean a police officer right i don't know it could be a costume we don't know there's a halloween is soon april 14th jesus so this is also part of a trend, a wider trend of companies that started just as like some half-assed fun part-time thing that turned into like giant behemoths.

So Airbnb started 10 years ago as two guys renting out an air mattress in their apartment. Basically, they noticed that all these hotels were getting bought up during conventions. I think it was in San Francisco. And so they started renting out their air mattresses and called it Air Bed and Breakfast. And people were just that desperately in need of housing. And then somehow that evolved into them being Airbnb. I'm dealing with finding out the origin of the name right now. I did not know that. When people found out about Migos being short for amigos,

I was like, why air? What the fuck is that? You just blew my mind, Chad. I said, is it an air mattress? Air mattress? Because San Francisco real estate is so fucked up, someone would probably pick you up on that. And at some dude's house.

So it's not even like at a lady house. It's like, come on, yeah, no, you can rent out an air mattress. We got a sick aero bed you can fuck on. Right. It's just like a joke. yeah, no, you can rent out our air mattress. We got a sick aerobat you can fuck on. It's just like a joke. They're nasty.

Yeah, exactly. And then it turns into this world-changing game changer. What nasty shit can we rent out and make a fortune from? Right, I know. But it's people just stumbling backwards into multi-billion dollar behemoths. Oh, wow. So Uber, similarly, was started by a guy who's just the all-time biggest asshole. Apparently, when Uber first started taking out, he took to calling it Boober because

of how much it gets me laid, bro. What? Travis Kalnick. Wait, wait. Boober? Boober, because that's- That's sex. Because boobs and sex, you know, guy stuff, right?

Yeah. All right, Travis. Yeah. All right, Savvy. And it grew out of this crazy, misogynistic frat bro, tech bro, into a crazy, abusive and misogynistic company with just a horrible culture. And so now they're trying to reel that in. And the new CEO has, this is being treated like they are, you know, making the world's

biggest concession. They have stopped forcing people to go into private arbitration when they are sexually assaulted or sexually harassed by an Uber driver. It's happened so many times. Wow. Yeah, it happens a lot. And the reason that you don't hear more about it is because when you sign up for Uber, you sign away your right to- To go to court? To go to court. Yeah. You solve everything with them in private arbitration and private arbitration means that it's not going to be publicized.

Yeah, and also not a fair way to solve something like that. No, because they can bully you. Right. Isn't that how Congress handles their assault cases too? A similar version of just sort of like, okay, let's take it out of the court. Congress is even worse because you have to go to work for six months and like do in Congress, if you accuse somebody of sexual harassment or even assault, you have to like go to mediation with them for six months while you guys like try to work it out. Yeah, which is basically just be like, oh, we'll make it so uncomfortable for the person that they have to leave that they just don't want to fuck with this process. But I think they're trying to amend that if maybe they have already.

They're working on it, Chris and Jill Brandes. But as for Uber, I don't know. You know your company's made some mistakes if your new message is, if you get raped using our product, you can have your day in court. We're changing our ways. Not like it used to be. Right, exactly. That's, man, Uber, Uber, Uber. What can you do? not like it used to be right exactly that's man

Uber Uber Uber what can you do I mean they're like cause they're fucking up the taxi industry in certain places too or like nah I ain't mad about that

I'm petty I lived in New York City and ain't no Uber ever hit me with they car or driving by you when you're like oh yeah

especially being black I'm like at least when I pull up I can get in I've had cars taxis clip me. I've had a taxi hit me. Have you been hit by a taxi?

What? I know so many people who have been hit by taxis. Yes. It's a thing. I've had a door taken off by a taxi as I was getting out of another taxi. It wasn't like my car. Wait. I always think about shit like that.

The door was taken off like in a movie. Yeah, yeah. And you were like, whoo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. It's crazy. I know somebody who door was taken off like in a movie. Yeah, yeah. And you were like, whoo! Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, shit. It's crazy. I know somebody who's died from getting hit by a taxi. Daniel O'Brien from Cracked.

Died? No, no. Oh. But he got hit really bad to the point that he came back to work limping. What? Yeah. DOB was hit by a taxi cab in New York City. By a taxi cab.

And the only thing that saved him is he was so surprised that he jumped up in the air. And that's apparently exactly what you're supposed to do if you're about to be hit by a taxi cab in New York City. By a taxi cab. And the only thing that saved him is he was so surprised that he jumped up in the air. And that's apparently exactly what you're supposed to do if you're about to be hit by a car. Oh, rather than being planted. Right. Really?

Yeah. That's good to know. Yeah. So, I don't know, man. Stop clumsy. I gotta know shit like that. You have a body cam on you so you can get that scam, though, too.

But yeah, I think I would feel worse for the taxi industry if they hadn't been such trash for so long. Right, 100%. It's more like in other countries, too. Oh, yeah, I think I would feel worse for the taxi industry if they hadn't been such trash for so long. Right, 100%. It's more like in other countries, too. Oh, yeah, that's true. I remember in Paris, whoo, they were fucking ready to beat the shit out of Uber drivers. Yeah, no, they were dropping bricks on Ubers and shit from overpasses.

Yeah, it was no fucking joke, man. It's a serious game. Yeah, they do not fuck around when it comes to unionizing and organizing around labor causes. Uber won't even let their drivers unionize. You know what I mean? No. It's just like, not to mention that the drivers are treated shitty too. It's hard to find a good thing about it aside from the convenience of being able to summon a vehicle to get from point A to point B. There was a heartbreaking story about a cab driver who invested, basically you invest in

these medallions, these taxi medallions. And like they used to cost $1.5 million when this dude bought them. And like he was paying it off, paying it off, paying it off. And then Uber came in and now they're worth less than $100,000. And so like there's this huge rash of suicides among cab drivers who like did this because they just like lost all their savings from uber my god uh so yeah it's uber's fucked up in many ways uh granted so are a lot of cab drivers so but yeah so i mean the one thing you can say is this is a start for uber like they did look at the what they were like okay what is the single most fucked up thing about our company and then they actually addressed it and like openly addressed it right this is like some shit that facebook might fix in their uh user

terms of service and then like just you know quietly make it go away but uber is like all right so we're a really fucked up company we're trying to fix stuff so here's the thing we're gonna be doing differently those are the best apologies though too right you know when you can come on be like hey we've been fucking up right and we're gonna do something about it because most places especially in this country or most people too in the public eye will you know give half-assed apologies or whatever and shit like that so i feel like those we've been fucking up moments always come on the heels of somebody about to out your ass, though. Because I feel like Uber would have kept it real quiet.

Somebody was about to blow that whistle. Right. But even Facebook, like, they're not out here. I mean, although they are trying to run new ads, they're like, we're getting back to, like, what Facebook was about. Yeah. They're running those ads all over. Stalking your exes. They're running those ads all over the NBA playoffs being like, remember when Facebook was a good thing? Not fucked up.

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And we're back. And yeah, we just blew by that Migos thing, but I did not know Migos was short for Amigos until the Donald Glover sketch on SNL. Friendos. Where they called them friendos. I was like, oh, right. I thought that was a reference to No Country for Old Men. Javier Brandon was like, hey, friendo. Therapy. Hello, friendo.

Therapy. Teeth. I love teeth. That was my favorite ad lib. But apparently it was trending yesterday because Drake's new tour is Drake and the Three Amigos. Ah. So now we're going to get on to something that is currently blowing the minds of everybody in our office.

And the internet. It is the Laurel or Yanni debate. So let's just hear it. Let's just get right into it. Let's hear this piece of audio. And everyone tell us, or don't tell us, because we can't talk to you. This is a one-way medium. But are you hearing yeah laurel or yanni laurel okay now again okay what do you hear lacy right here laurel or? Oh, y'all don't hear that little lady in the back like,

help! Y'all don't hear that? We have established that Lacey has super hearing. Like, we were playing this high-pitched thing in our old studio that only people who are, like, under a certain age are supposed to be able to hear because their ears haven't just been completely fucked yet. And Lacey was the only person who was able to hear it.

You're like the full frequency range. I protect these little drums. Right. So as a person who hasn't been able to hear. For real though. For real though. What I really heard. For you flex on people with your hearing.

I heard Laurel. You heard Laurel, right? Yeah. I heard Laurel. I heard Laurel all day yesterday. I heard Laurel when we just listened to it there. But all morning this morning, I heard a version of it that sounded like Yanny and started hearing Yanny. And I hadn't been able to hear Laurel again until just then.

No, you didn't hear that. I was watching a rerun of Jersey Shore where Snooki was like, Yanny. Right. Yeah. That's what they want to know. Yanni. Right, yeah. That's what we want to know.

But this is basically when that dress thing happened, where some people saw it as black and blue, and some people saw it as white and gold. What did you see? So, see, now I got to keep listening to this like a sociopath or something, because when I saw the blue dress, I first saw it as a blue dress, and then I started looking at that shit just forever, and then it was white to me. And I could go back and forth so

now i need to listen to this until it's yanni because i need to be enlightened right so your third eye mom yeah so i i don't oh it sounds like yanni laurel laurel for a second i heard yanni laurel no did you change that nick what you doing, Nick? What you doing in there, Nick? The first time you played it, it sounded like Yanni. Yeah. I think what happened is because Lacey was saying something, it sort of disrupted my hearing for a second that I could hear it. So aren't they saying that it's a combination of like Yanni is in there too,

but it's at a higher frequency or something? But you can't hear them both at the same time, and when you're hearing one, you can't hear the other. It's crazy because when I was hearing Yanni earlier, I couldn't hear Laurel at all. You could only hear Yanni. I could only hear Yanni and now I can only hear Laurel. So it's like an auditory illusion.

Kind, yeah. Like those ones where you see those on an electric sign where it looks like something's spinning and you can't tell which direction it's spinning in. Have we been in the room with people who are hearing different things but they're in the same room yes yesterday caitlin dorante and jamie loftus were in here and caitlin dorante heard yanni yeah and jamie loftus heard laurel and we were all hearing laurel and then just now

in nick's booth i was hearing yanni and everybody else was hearing laurel so okay because i was about to say maybe they're just fucking with said it's like playing one or the other. It's crazy. So when the dress thing happened, there were like these articles saying it was all about how our visual cortex interacts with a light reflecting off surfaces in our visual frame. There's like this wire article where they were saying our visual system is supposed to throw away information. But I've studied individual differences in color vision for 30 years. And I just never really bought that, that it was like a color specific thing.

And now I think I'm vindicated. I think this is proof that it's, it's not just colors. It's basically how our senses interact with our brain. There's this book incognito by David Eagleman. That is one of my favorite nonfiction books that everybody should read. But he talks about how there are way more nerves traveling from our brain to our eyes in that direction than from our eyes to our brain.

So in other words, we see with our eyes, but we also to a large degree see with our memory, like our memory fills in a lot of our visual field with just what it knows is there based on what you've seen in the past. There's context and things, right? Yeah, context. So if that's true, and if that applies to all of our sensory perception organs, then you're bringing so much of your memory and your personal experience to everything you hear that it is going to be totally different to different people basically.

And I think like, I don't know, think about how completely different it sounds when you hear a song for the first time to like when you hear it for the seventh time and you absolutely love it to when you hear it for the hundredth time. And you're just like, eh, so tired of this song. It's like,

it sounds like a different song. And I, I don't know. I feel like that's partially what's happening with how this is hitting our brains. I don't think I'm ever going to hear Yanni. I think if I do, I'm going to have to like bring the audio tracking,

the logic and start like fucking with the speed of it or something. Because what's crazy is that this thing has even Mother Jones is writing about it and shit. They were linking to tweets where someone was pitching it up and down in different directions and different quantities or whatever. And they're saying you can hear Yanni at certain levels. But honestly, I'm Team Laurel. I've been both, man. I've been to the other side. Oh, shit.

I've seen it. Hello from the other side. That's why I want to go. I want to make sure my chakras are aligned. I got to hear them both. Yeah. Do some EFT before. Make sure all your meridians is moving right.

Yeah. So Super Producer Nick Stumpf was just asking if there is like a definitive answer for what is actually being said in the same way that once you saw the dress, it was blue and black, like we always said, and all those other people were crazy. There is only one answer. It is Laurel. Oh, okay. And I'm just saying that because my ego can't handle anything else. Yeah, so I don't know. All right.

Well, I guess super producer Nick Stumpf just ruined it for us and found out that it's from vocabulary.com. When you type in the word Laurel and have it speech it back to you, the text speech, it says Laurel. And obviously there's not going to be no Yanni because that's a name of one of the greatest vocalists of our time. I don't buy it. All right. Well, we don't have to. You know. I don't buy it. All right.

Well, we don't have to. Fake news. Fake news. No, it definitely sounds just like Laurel to me now, but I don't know. For some reason, when I was hearing it earlier out of speakers, try it from different speakers too. Speakers, distances, you know, all kinds of ways.

Quadraphonic surround sound, however you want to do it. All right. And finally, Lacey, you said that there is a meaning behind your AKA, the Paul Gonzalez thing. This is not a scam. No, Paul Gonzalez is a scammer. And maybe this will help people in the Southern California area. But this is a man who's on dating apps who is going on first dates with women and then skipping out on bills. Yeah.

The Dine and Dash Dater? That's Paul Gonzalez? Yes. Paul Gonzalez is the Dine and Dash Dater. He is going out here and taking women on first dates and then he is leaving before the check comes. It's usually the thing is they show up, he's like, oh I came here early and I already ate, but I'm down to eat

again and so the waiter will come and they'll order the thing and then he'll bone out with leaving her with the fucking check while he's had a whole steak dinner. And it's the first date. So you don't know this person. And he's meeting these women on apps. Go on Desus and Mero's YouTube channel because they've talked about it a couple of times. It's hilarious.

Because, yeah, like one of the recent times times one of the managers at the restaurant recognized him and kicked him out and then comped this woman's meal because he was like it's okay queen like yeah I'm sorry about him but listen that's a dope scam I don't want to encourage men to do that because look when women go on dates like you

need to pick that check up and then if you want to do half that's cool but you never go see me again but no we're not going to see me again. Oh, wow. But, no, we're not going half on the first date. I'm a queen. You just go ahead and pick that up.

You can't afford me. And if you date somebody who can't, if you both broke, it's cool because then y'all both broke. But if one of you is not broke and the other one is, then you make the other person broke because then y'all start fighting. Lift them up. All boats rise. Yeah, exactly. But you sink a little bit because you was hired. But all I'm saying is that's a great scam.

My man's just out here really dining and dashing. The dining dash dater. They've made articles about him. Women are pissed. Yeah, what's bullshit? If you Google him you can see his face.

He's like moderately attractive. I think he lives with his mom too or something. Or he lived around the corner with his mom. There's many dimensions to it. He'd be like, hey queen, let's go out to mom. There's many dimensions to it. He'd be like,

hey, queen, let's go out to Mastro's Steakhouse tonight. But think about it. If you a woman and you probably, I mean, if you live in LA, we'd be out here

just rolling the dice with dudes. We'd be like, well, why not, Paul? I'm eating. He's like, oh, I want to meet you at Crustacean. He's like,

I want to meet you at Mastro's Queen. He'd be like, okay. His top line? Looking like, okay. Oh, you like the sides there? His top line, looking to stop looking. Oh, shit. That's a scam.

That's a scam. Kind of guy you could get serious with. Wow, disarming you like that? Yeah. Looking to stop looking. Yo, that's good. For my wallet. Because that's what my-

I thought he's not looking for it. Oh, shit, I forgot my wallet. My favorite person. Well, you know what's funny? You're going to be looking for me. I've done that before, you know, on a date. What? You forgot your wallet.

Oh, you lost your, you forgot your wallet. You go, oh, shit. Yep. Can't believe I forgot my wallet. Well, you can't say oh, shit like that, Miles. You said oh, shit before you even started packing your pockets. I can see you. That's not good.

The devil knows their own. You have done that? Hey, why am I on trial? Because you just said you did it. I don't know. Look, it's a comedy show. That's a bit. That's not a bit, guys.

Miles luckily has a girlfriend. Miles has some good scams. You got the... Hey, people don't... Don't put me out there like that. People think I'm a good guy. Hey, what is that? I'm also mad at Paul, man.

That's my scam. Right. Well, that was supposed to be for women. I mean, look, I guess some people are out there going Dutch. That's good for y'all. No, women need to start doing that. Hell no. Absolutely not.

No, just scam them. I showed up to the day. You don't have to wear makeup. You know how much makeup costs? Okay. I know how much it costs. I paid already. I know a lot of dudes who feel like they have girls that they're seeing on these apps who are just using them for free meals.

For sure. I dated someone in college like that. I dated this volleyball player. Oh, my God. I loved her. And she would only hit me up to eat. It was always she would be like, oh, what's up? I'm like, oh, yeah, you want a cake?

She's like, yeah, I'm hungry. You hungry? And I'm like, yeah. And then we're always eating. And then I remember one time I brought it up. I was like, oh, what's up? I'm like, oh, yeah. You want a cake? She's like, yeah, I'm hungry. You hungry? And I'm like, yeah. And then we're always eating. And then I remember one time I was like, I brought it up. I was like, why do we always eat? Like when we're doing this, she got so defensive. And I was like, that's when I realized.

I don't know. Why do you always eat? Yeah. And I was like, I don't know. Well, guys, if you want to know the chicks into you, like, I don't know. Take the bitch to the park. Go walk on the beach. That's cute.

I'm not going to the beach with you on the first day. You're not drowning me. She got her meals. We can go to a park during the daytime if I like you. I'm not going to the beach with you on the first date. You're not drowning me. She got her meals. We can go to a park during the daytime if I like you. She got so much Baja fresh off of me. Damn, the Baja. That's not bad. That's like $15.

Well, when you're in college, you work at the coach store. That's true. And you're slinging bags on the side to get a Brookstone sound machine. You don't have shmoney at that point. Listen, I've sat through some pretty rough dates because I was like, oh, food. And then I'm going back out with him again. I was like, you know what? I don't like you, but I am hungry.

He's like, the thing you got to understand, Lacey, about InfoWars is Alex Jones does have a point to a certain extent. I went out with a guy who literally asked me if I knew what an app was because he was trying to tell me what he did because he was retired. He was like, oh, I'm developing an app. And I had a blank stare like, okay, and you develop an app for what? Like, you sound like you're lying. And he was like, oh, do you not know what an app is? Oh, no, this motherfucker did.

Okay. Do you not know what an app is? Do you have a mobile device? And then after that, I was just petty. He tried to tell me Iowa wasn't a swing state. I said, bitch, what are the Iowa caucuses? What is that? He told me he into politics. I was like, oh, you just thought I was stupid. I'm cute, but I was just petty. He tried to tell me Iowa wasn't a swing state. I said, bitch, what are the Iowa caucuses? What is that? He told me he into politics.

I was like, oh, you just thought I was stupid. I'm cute, but I'm not dumb. Do you know what a blue dog Democrat is? Listen, as soon as he closed the tab, I left. There you go. I sound trifling. I sound so trifling. I'm not trifling, guys.

I'm looking for love out there. You're looking to stop looking. I'm looking to stop looking. And if people are looking to find you, where can they find you? Yes. You can find me on Instagram and Twitter. Same handle. We got a brand going over here.

Diva Lacey. That's D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I. You can also see me at UCB. I'm a Ma Team Mama and I'm a Herald Team Leroy. And there's a few other places I can't tell you where you'll be able to see me yet. Oh, wow.

Next time. I'm very excited for you. I'm genuinely, yeah. Exciting times. And it's not like as soon as these mics go off, I'm going to press you to tell me. Anyway. Miles.

Yes, me. You can find me at milesofgray on Twitter and Instagram. You can find me at jack__obrien on Twitter. You can find us at dailyzeitgeist on Twitter. We're at ddailyzeitgeist and Instagram. You can find me at Jack underscore O'Brien on Twitter. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page

and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information in the episode that we talked about today.

And we also link off to the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be today? Okay, well, because we're talking about North Korea and I was trying

to find world peace, I wanted to play a track by the group Warpaint. Lovely band. Yeah, they're LA-based. Ladies, my goodness. This song is called Set Your Arms Down. Because that's all we're trying to do. Set our arms down.

Just find peace. We don't need to be aiming things at each other. We don't need to be aiming the mobile phones at each other to call 9-1-1 because i'm just trying to return something at target okay anyway please love each other set your arms down and you know give somebody a hug today but ask them first guys yeah yeah yeah fellas ask them first uh all right we're gonna ride out on that we will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. Talk to you guys then. Bye.

Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye. Bye.

Bye. I'm on the back porch You stay tonight We bring our pocket Our pocket knives You wanna fight me You want to fight Forgotten sense of me See ya, see ya

I'm in the backyard Into the night We walk through fire My heart is your flashlight They wanna fight me They want to fight me They want to fight Forgotten sense of me See ya, see ya Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Walk through the fire Walk to the next part

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