The Daily Zeitgeist - Does Drake Have Big D*ck Energy? Time Magazine Explains The Internet! 6.28.18

Episode Date: June 29, 2018

In episode 179, Jack and special guest co-host Jamie Loftus are joined by comedian Matt Gourley to discuss different big dick energy carriers, satellite images of North Korea's nuclear facilities, a B...oston superintendent resigning after claims that he shared student immigration info with ICE, an update on the culture wars and the Red Hen debacle, a new Star Wars manifesto, and more! Plus super producer Anna Hossnieh joins to talk about Jersey Shore and Time's The 25 Most Influential People on the Internet list. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 this season on the new podcast, current here episodes of rip current early and completely ad free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to i heart true crime plus only on apple podcasts hey guys it's jack uh just wanted to say real quick that uh we recorded this before the uh shooting in annapolis this afternoon, so we will not be talking about that today. You know, we've talked before on The Daily Zeitgeist about the phenomenon of shootings in America, and that is still a terrible thing that is happening, but we will, you know, I'm recording this a couple hours after we got done recording and still don't know too many details,
Starting point is 00:02:45 but we will presumably talk about it more on tomorrow's episode. With that, on to the regular schedule program. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 37, episode 4 of The Daily Zeitgeist! For June 28, 2018, our guest is already terrified. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, a.k.a. Silence of the Yams, a.k.a. Darth TBrien, a.k.a. Potatoes O'Brien, a.k.a. Silence of the Yams, a.k.a. Darth Tater, a.k.a. Hot Potato Brian.
Starting point is 00:03:10 That's courtesy of Deanna, at Deanna on Twitter. And I am thrilled to be joined by my co-host, just one of the funniest people anywhere, Lil Zam. She'd rather be called the C-word than a frequent podcast guest. Please welcome the original J-Lo, Jamie Loftus! A.K.A. Not Edgar, A.K.A. The Fourth Migo, A.K.A. How Stuff Works, more like Hey Sluts, What's Up? Love it.
Starting point is 00:03:41 I was very proud of that one. They need to change their name to Hayslip. And we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the funniest performers and improvisers. He hosts the amazing podcast. I was there, too, one of my favorite podcasts. And is one of the creators of Super Ego, which is, for my money, the funniest podcast ever. We are thrilled to have Mr. Matt Gourley. Hey, aka What's the Story Morning Gourley, aka guy here now with you all.
Starting point is 00:04:15 Take it. Gourley seems correct. Matt, we're thrilled to have you. I'm thrilled to be here. It's exciting. Exciting times here at the Daily Zeitgeist. Thrilled to have you. I'm thrilled to be here.
Starting point is 00:04:22 It's exciting. Exciting times here at the Daily Zeitgeist. Before we introduce you to our listeners, we're going to do a quick run through of what we've got going on today, what they're in store for. They're in store for some Big Dick Energy power rankings. Yeah, we're still talking about Big Dick Energy, but I feel like we were first to it. We were. We were talking. We talked about it before it blew up.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Two seconds before everyone was swinging their Big Dick energy around, we were postulating on it. Yeah. Yeah. You made it happen. Yeah. Yeah. Almost definitely. We brought our big dick energy.
Starting point is 00:04:54 We put it out there into the universe. Although I think it'll be revealed that Jack and I have small dick energy. Very small dick. Talking big dick energy to death is not big dick energy. Spoiler alert. North Korea, we're going to talk about checking with their nuclear arsenal, see how that's going. We are going to talk about the Supreme Court and who might replace Justice Kennedy.
Starting point is 00:05:15 We are going to talk about Boston's school superintendent. Boston. Boston's screwing up again. Lil Zam, going to check in with the hometown. We're going to talk about the aftermath of the Red Hen incident and just what's going on with the state of civility. The 51st state. The 51st state of civility. We're going to check in with the tech industry also and how they're dealing with culture wars.
Starting point is 00:05:42 And then our third act is just going to be an onslaught of fun pop culture ephemera. But first off, we like to ask our guest, Matt, what is something from your search history that will help our audience know a little bit more about who you are? This is very specific and something that I visit frequently, and that is I Google theme park stunt shows. I don't know what it is because there's this one spot at Universal Studios that I grew up, there was this one theater that they would do a stunt show in.
Starting point is 00:06:17 So what's there right now is Waterworld, which was the big joke, like why would you ever do that? They had planned the stunt show long before the movie ever came out it was on the heels of dances with wolves so i'm sure they thought like this is this is we're done like close the rest of the park right this is it anyway that being said it's an amazing stunt show it's corny and campy but like the stunts are incredible and so are like the pyrotechnics but before that was a mi Miami Vice stunt show that I loved as a kid. So it's all boat and jet ski based.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Exactly. Explosions. But before that was an A-Team stunt show that I can never find any video of. And so I'm always like every month or two, I'll Google like. Maybe someone has uploaded. Yeah, have my dreams come true yet? That's what Google recognizes. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Code. What do you remember of the A-Team stunt show? Yeah, have my dreams come true yet? That's what Google recognizes. Right. It's just code. What do you remember of the A-Team stunt show? Well, here's all that I remember because I've only seen it once, and it was on a day where my dad let me skip school on my birthday, a rainy day, and we went. And, you know, if you're familiar with A-Team, you've got B.A. Baracus, Mr. T. You've got Hannibal the Leader.
Starting point is 00:07:21 You've got Face and Murdoch, right? Yeah. It's always been the four right so it was a rainy day and they were short on actors and out comes Hannibal and Mr. T in the A-team van and then Hannibal excuses himself into the van and the same actor comes out as Murdoch and you never see face this was like in the last weeks of this stunt show so clearly they were phasing it out and I only only saw this scaled down version, but I would love to one day see that. And I hope like whatever happens when you die, I want to know that that information still exists.
Starting point is 00:07:54 And I can just like slip into a comfy chair and watch that to my heart's content. You want your consciousness stored in the cloud so that you can interface with the video that exists. One of my favorite old school roller coaster videos, I used to be very into finding roller coaster videos, and the mummy ride at Universal, which is one of the best, one of the greats. There used to be a Brendan Fraser video in there at the beginning and end.
Starting point is 00:08:18 He'd be like, hi, I'm Brendan Fraser. Please buckle your seatbelt. And then he'd go on the thing. And then there was also a video at the end where he'd be like, hi, I'm Brendan Fraser. I was Brendan Fraser. Tip your waders on the way out. I still am. Wait, I remember that roller coaster being like what they clearly bought as a kit roller
Starting point is 00:08:37 coaster and just put like black light pictures of the mummy up. And the whole thing felt like it was retrofitted into like a hallway underground or something. Am I thinking of something different? No, it's the whole thing felt like it was retrofitted into like a hallway underground or something am i thinking of something different no it's the same thing and then they're just like maybe if we slap a two-second video of like the in a costume people will be like oh yeah like the mummy yeah man parents letting you skip school is such powerful stuff i need to keep that in mind because my dad would let me skip school for the NCAA tournament, like the first two days of that. And like, I was not a sporty little kid, but like that, I still like get misty eyed every time the NCAA tournament comes around. I'm just like so
Starting point is 00:09:15 into it. If it means not going to school. I plan to do that most days with my children. Yeah, I'm totally. They're going to do it so much. They're going to like be nostalgic for school though. Yeah. Remember that one time I went to school I like that when it sneaks up on you my first breakup in high school my mom was like you know what you don't have to go to school today
Starting point is 00:09:33 yeah she was just like you can just sit at home and watch Gilmore Girls all day because the guy who plays the saxophone broke your heart that's incredible parenting I have to say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:45 That is awesome. Yeah. So it's just like, take a day, take a load off, and then be sad tomorrow at school. Yeah. That's really nice. My problem is I'd parlay it into a whole week, you know, like- Right. Oh, now I'm sick.
Starting point is 00:09:57 Get a taste of it. Matt, what is something you think is overrated? Well, sports in general. Okay. But I like the World Cup and soccer. Okay. But I think that's just a personal taste. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:08 Yeah. Yeah. We'll be checking in with the World Cup a little later on. Okay, good. What do you think is underrated? I'll tell you what I think is underrated. All right. Two to three things.
Starting point is 00:10:17 Okay. Godfather 3. Wow. Yeah. That's a strong statement. I know it is, and I know that's an unpopular opinion, and I know there are some problems with it. Hey, it wouldn't be underrated if it wasn't. That's right.
Starting point is 00:10:29 I ain't never seen no Godfather movie. Ever? No. I've seen I, Frankenstein 12 times. Well, they're pretty much the same thing, so I think you're catching it all. Yeah. I always viewed I, Frankenstein as a part of the extended Godfather universe. But I can't judge you because my second thing that I think is underrated, I've seen a bunch of times. True Detective Season 2. Uh-huh.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Which was universally panned, I think. Yes. And I loved it. And I don't know if it was because it's so L.A. based. To the very end, you loved it? Really? I know. Even the Vince Vaughn walk at the end.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I know. I know what you're thinking right now. I liked a lot of it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I understand. I know what you're thinking right now. I liked a lot of it. Yeah. Yeah. No, I understand. It did not pay off necessarily for me.
Starting point is 00:11:09 No, I know, and it's not as good as the first season. No, it's not. Nothing is. But I still, I don't know why. I've watched it more than the first season, and I like the first season better. I don't know what it is.
Starting point is 00:11:20 I like the first season fine, but I hated the last episode so much. But yeah, maybe I just have a thing where true detective can never truly please me. That's true. Yeah, true, true, true. And then maybe it's related to my stunt show thing, but the movie Miami Vice, I think is really good. I love the movie Miami Vice. So we're both Colin Farrell guys. Yes, definitely. Farrell heads. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Big fan. Yeah, me too. There are some-
Starting point is 00:11:47 What a wholesome moment that was. This is nice to hear. Oh, you're a Farrell head there. You know, like maybe when we die and we're in the cloud, we can watch the Miami Vice stunt show together. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is on YouTube and I highly recommend it. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:58 Ooh, okay. You guys will have to pause for 15 minutes while I watch this stunt show. It loses some impact not being live and being in like 300 DPI. And just hearing me grunt over audio, probably not as good. And Matt, finally, what is a myth? What's something most people think is true, you know, to be false? Boy, can I get deep? Yes. Okay. For me, it's like the myth of, of a threat, like of seeing a ghost or a face or like waking up from a nightmare and seeing someone in your house, you know,
Starting point is 00:12:31 have you ever had that experience before? Yeah. Give me an example. Well, like if you have a nightmare and then I have a recurring nightmare about my Michael Myers from Halloween and I'll wake up sometimes, not the actor, although sometimes depending on his level of mugging.
Starting point is 00:12:49 And they're not, you know, they both have startling faces. But I'll wake up sometimes and I'll see like a chair in the shadow. And because of the nightmare, I'm programmed to think like out of self-preservation or something like evolution, like that's a person. Right. And it's just your mind wants to set yourself up to defend yourself against, I guess, predators and in a like prehistorical sense. Right. So you're disposed to see patterns and things and ghosts and explain them with threats rather than just circumstances and happenings. Man. Yeah, that's a good point.
Starting point is 00:13:19 If I saw a ghost, like my first instinct would be to be really scared. But really, I should just be like oh my god there's like an afterlife and like magic exists holy shit and it's amazing it's not by default if there was a ghost that it's going to be an evil spirit it could be like lonely right yeah yeah i mean i feel like that's what you usually hear in the realistic ghost stories that it's like some lonely person wait Wait, have you guys seen ghosts before? I have not. I'm personally not a believer.
Starting point is 00:13:50 I think that's what I was heading towards with the myth. Oh, okay. Well, you are wrong. Ghosts are real, and I've seen one. And I was nine, and I peed myself. Nine is the most credible age for- Nine is- Okay.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Believe children who see ghosts. This is the new belief woman. I can't get on board. She was wearing a dress. She was walking downstairs. I regret deeply being so scared, but I do feel like it happened because I wouldn't pee myself for no reason. Or you wouldn't justify peeing yourself with anything else. What if I reverse engineered trauma and was like, what is the reason I could have just peed myself
Starting point is 00:14:31 other than sheer laziness? Or were you trying to parlay another day home from school? No, you don't get a ghost day. Go back out with the spirits. Spirits are in math class. Go back out with the spirits Spirits are in math class So do you subscribe to the Sixth Sense version of the universe Where only children can see ghosts Or do you think you could Just turn a corner and see a ghost now
Starting point is 00:14:56 As an adult I feel like I'm too jaded to see ghosts now So it's almost the Polar Express version Of ghosts where like when you're a kid Less uncanny Valley but yes. Right. Okay. Less dead-eyed horror. I would go with the Sixth Sense because I love Haley Joel Osment.
Starting point is 00:15:12 Who doesn't? So cute. I don't know. I don't want to pick him up you know. Even now. Like the bearded version. He's got big dick energy. Oh for sure. For sure. And what a transition. He was just on Doughboys and that was a great episode of Doughboys. People should check it out. Haley Joel Osment.
Starting point is 00:15:27 But let's talk about Big Dick Energy, guys. So this is something that- That's why I'm here. In honor of Matt, this is something that when Jamie was guest hosting two episodes ago, two episodes ago. This was just starting to make ripples around the web because Ariana Grande said that her fiance, Pete Davidson, has big dick energy. She said that unironically?
Starting point is 00:15:57 Or maybe she said he had a 10-inch dick and then people were like, he has big dick energy, so it makes sense. Right. I don't think, yeah. Wait, so that's what I saw headlines about, like, he's so big and she's so small, and I thought it was purely stature. I had no idea that's what people were talking about. Yeah, I mean, there's that, too.
Starting point is 00:16:20 Yeah, it doesn't seem... The lore surrounding this term has evolved quite a bit in the past 48 hours. There's now a whole think tank consisting of me and Jack. Yes. Of what constitutes big dick energy. Yeah, so we spent all morning that we should have been preparing and doing research on the actual news. I can confirm this. Talking about who qualifies as having big dick energy because i think that's
Starting point is 00:16:46 probably the best way uh to figure out what big dick energy is is by interrogating actual people and their you know possession of it or not so we talked about three of the last four presidents bill clinton obama and trump jamie you and i were were saying Obama and Trump both give off big dick energy. Yes. Trump? Yeah. Well, big dick energy isn't necessarily a good thing, which is, I think, a common misconception with BDE.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Maybe explain it to me. Right. Well, BDE is just all confidence. It's all confidence and sometimes unjustified confidence. Sometimes the confidence can be unjustified. But with Obama, he's beyond confident. Even though he deserves to be confident, he's incredibly smooth and just carries himself like he has a huge dick. you wouldn't he he has this unnecessary or like undeserved confidence about him that's like it's got to be coming from somewhere yeah small dick energy well it's but it's not an overcon it's kind of that dumb guy i don't know like bill clinton halfless bill clinton is very confident
Starting point is 00:18:01 but i don't think he has big dick energy. I think he has medium-ish dick energy. I agree. And it's also like you can have big dick energy and then also physically have a withered chode like the current president. Right, right, right. So it's a vibe. It's not a physical description. And the yardstick that I've been using is, okay, if you have big dick energy, if when people meet you, they think that, oh, how does that work? If people are like, oh, I thought you were going to be taller.
Starting point is 00:18:37 If people think you're going to be taller, you have big dick energy. I see. Because you carry yourself like a bigger presence. Right. If you're me and you're six feet tall and everyone's like, no way she's taller than 5'7", you got no dick energy. You're completely dickless. You're a withered chode. to be as small as he is because of the way he carries himself and he just has a certain swagger. But we were saying Will Smith does not have big dick energy, even though he's a very talented actor. He just doesn't have – we were talking about Drake versus Kendrick. Now, this was controversial. I said Drake has big dick energy because – so I think Drake's sort of self-conflicted
Starting point is 00:19:26 sort of lack of confidence is actually something he puts on like he projects vulnerability and like an actor would project vulnerability and the fact that he needs to pretend to feel vulnerable suggests that he has Big Dick Energy. I think he's
Starting point is 00:19:42 Canadian and a former child star and both of those don't bode well for big dick energy. Yeah. But Haley Joel Osment. So this is the thing, though. Major dick energy. Yeah, for sure. But can't the fact that he's working against those two handicaps,
Starting point is 00:19:56 child actor and a Canadian, and yet has gotten where he's going, wouldn't that suggest that he's being carried forth by some ineffable energy? There's a way to control test this with Alanis Morissette. What would you consider Alanis Morissette? Oh, interesting. I don't think she's big dick.
Starting point is 00:20:13 I don't think so. I don't think she's big dick energy. Well, maybe there you go. Yeah. But I mean it as a compliment in that way. It's confusing. Yeah, I'm a little confused. So overanalyzing big dick Energy is not Big Dick Energy.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yes. However, you coming in today, Matt, not knowing what Big Dick Energy was. Huge Dick Energy. Huge Dick Energy. But now that I know, have I lost, I don't have Big Dick Energy anymore. We took your dick. Boy, what a sad paradox that you can't, once you become self-aware, you lose Big Dick Energy. I think most rock band lead singers have big dick energy it's almost like a unwarranted confidence
Starting point is 00:20:50 is how i think about it like we were talking about pete davidson kind of being the perfect person for this to coalesce around because he even though he's very funny like in conversations jamie you were saying he was like really funny on a talk show the other night because he- Peak Big Dick energy is Pete Davidson going on a talk show, sitting next to Robert Pattinson, and instead of promoting his own movie, showing a clip from Robert Pattinson's last movie. That's Big Dick energy. Right. And so he's not like, even though he's funny, he's not very talent forward, but he carries himself in a very confident way. And that's why I think he has big dick energy.
Starting point is 00:21:27 But I might just be trying to explain something that words can't do justice for. Maybe it's confidence in spite of something else. Right, right. Johnny Knoxville, big dick energy. Dana Carvey versus Billy Crystal we have on here. Billy Crystal, big dick. Dana Carvey, no dick. No dick energy?
Starting point is 00:21:46 Dick. Big turtle energy. But almost because he's so talent forward? Yeah, I think because he's good at stuff. He's got that big turtle energy. He's rockin' the turtle turtle. And he's seriously self-deprecating. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Yeah, that's also true. Do you think that's a projection or real? I think Dana Carvey's not outwardly confident, so he can't have big dick energy. What about Justin Trudeau? I think big dick energy. I guess that kind of busts my whole Canadian thing. Yeah. I mean, we were talking child actors. That's a small subset.
Starting point is 00:22:16 That's a subset. It's hard to find a Degrassi cast member with big dick energy, but I would argue that the actor Jake Epstein, who played Craig Manning, does have big dick energy but i would argue that uh the actor jake epstein who played craig manning does have big dick energy um yeah and everyone can attack my mentions if you most controversial take in the history of uh your time on this show uh can we just talk about the turtle fact real quick yes this is my favorite it's my favorite fact
Starting point is 00:22:42 it's also my favorite thing about you that you love this fact so much. So can you explain to people what's... It's the best fact. Okay. So the Master of Disguise, Dana Carvey's starring vehicle that was just a big old train wreck. You got to watch it. It's a 68-minute movie where 12 of the minutes are credits and bloopers uh so there's the famous turtle turtle scene right from the trailer turtle it's the only scene in the movie basically and uh so the day
Starting point is 00:23:15 that was filmed was september 11 2001 oh my god it was shooting in los angeles. It was really early here and Dana Carvey's wearing the turtle outfit and they're like, guys, something terrible just happened. 9-11 just happened. Everyone gets a five minute break and then we're going back
Starting point is 00:23:35 to shooting the turtle. This is true? Yes. It was shot on the 9-11. Ever heard of it? And that's major. that's big turtle energy. Yeah. Rocking.
Starting point is 00:23:49 Jennifer Esposito had to just clench and look at the big turtle. Just fucking. But that doesn't sound like Dana Carvey. Was that some producer making that call? I'm sure. I don't, I doubt that Dana Carvey, but I just, the fact that everyone's like well we can't stop filming right it was just whatever like this is what this is what america needs right now if we do this they've won like minutes later like america needs to laugh again
Starting point is 00:24:17 as the second tower is coming down we We had to do it too. Oh, my God. Just a couple good observations. Mug in the car. You bring a coffee mug in a car without a lid on it. So stressful. Big dick energy. You said that's big dick energy. I kind of like that. It's just completely unaware of your surroundings.
Starting point is 00:24:42 And then, yeah, like we said, talking big dick energy to death is small dick energy. Analysis in general. Yes. Just no dick. All right. No dick. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine, and of course, lucha libre. It doesn't get more Mexican than this. Lucha libre is known globally because it is much more than just a sport and much more than just entertainment.
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Starting point is 00:29:12 They did not denuclearize as not promised. So I don't know why we expected them to. But there was just like sort of a like unspoken thing that passed between our president and their dear leader and we were like yeah they're probably gonna denuke because he likes me so much um yeah so i don't know it's it it's just what one more infuriating thing about the trump administration because had this come out two weeks ago or whenever it seems like three years ago but whenever the north korea summit was happening this would have been a big deal but now we're just like on to other things i guess yeah there and remember yeah like two weeks ago when this was like a major diplomatic success for the president you're like no you just it's it's like a high school situation
Starting point is 00:30:03 where you're like oh we hung out one time so he's not gonna talk shit about me anymore right and you're like no he's still he still hates you and thinks you're an idiot right not into the nuclear glove don't like it i was gonna ask what his supporters are even telling themselves at this point but i think i know i think we actually have a clip of what what they're telling themselves right now okay we're going to be going to space but I think I know. I think we actually have a clip of what they're telling themselves right now. Okay. We're going to be going to space. Space Force. Space Force.
Starting point is 00:30:35 Space Force. Yep. Oh my God. Jesus Christ. Have you guys ever seen Moonraker? No. It's a James Bond movie where he goes to space, but in order to fight the villain and his army in space, they send the space marines, the United States space marines up,
Starting point is 00:30:49 and they all have jetpacks in space, and they fight each other like soldiers in space. And I'm just picturing that must mean what it is, white laser guns, like Converse shoes, yellow space suits. I'm like, the best case scenario is they're like the alien space marines you know those colonial marines from the movie Aliens right yeah it's absurd they use real
Starting point is 00:31:11 guns in Aliens though right like they're not slow moving lasers right they're pulse rifles I'll make a prediction and say that the next like evolution of like Silicon Valley fuckboy is like a space fuckboy space fuckboy yeah don't weboy is a space fuckboy. Space fuckboy?
Starting point is 00:31:26 Don't we already have a space fuckboy? Who's our space fuckboy? Tesla guy. Elon Musk? He's not a fuckboy. He's a fuckman. He's a fuckman. From the Connecticut fuckman.
Starting point is 00:31:43 Yeah, I don't know. I give up at this point. He's not Big Dick Energy, right? No, I think he is. Who, Elon Musk? Yeah, or is he? I don't think so. I say no.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Okay. I think he wants it so badly that he can never have it. It's the paradox again. Yeah, okay. Makes sense. Now, ultimate Big Dick Energy move, Justice Kennedy retiring. Justice Kennedy is the dumbest slut in our grade. Hate him.
Starting point is 00:32:12 Hate him. Fuck. So, yeah, we talked about this yesterday as it was breaking the analysis since CNN and New Yorker legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin, the Toobinator, says that Roe v. Wade will be overturned in the next 18 months. He says it's inevitable and there will be a large swath of the United States where women have no access to legal abortion. Jesus Christ. There's not words for how frustrating it is to hear that. And then also on the media side, see the counter arguments.
Starting point is 00:32:50 They're like, there's no way it's going to happen. There's no way. There is absolutely a way it's going to happen. And I think that the Trump administration is going to really try to stick it to women everywhere by getting female justice names and then taking away Roe v. Wade. I think that's probably the tactic they're going to take. The one consolation that you may have heard talked about, and I have too, that I'm wondering could be the case is if Roberts does, in fact, because even though he's conservative in his own political views, he seems to really value
Starting point is 00:33:21 the institution and the precedence of the Supreme Court. So I'm wondering if he would swing to keep things as they are. And also maybe because he is kind of like a traditional establishment Republican in a way of like, fuck you, Trump. Like maybe, I don't know. I could see that happening. That to me is the only hope. Right. I feel pretty hopeless at present with it. It's just terrifying. Because I look at Roberts and I think of the Bush administration, they even have a similar haircut. And I think of how I feel about George W. Bush now in relation to Trump and that he's this almost sweet, avuncular figure that is totally unfounded, but just in the mirror of the Trump world that I think Roberts, maybe he'll do that too.
Starting point is 00:34:04 He'll do paintings. He's a painter. I always like to call the George W. Bush becoming an artist after being a terrible president a reverse Hitler. You're a nightmarish leader. And then he became a painter. It's the best way to go.
Starting point is 00:34:19 What if Trump gets out of the presidency and just starts like, becomes the ambassador for UNICEF and then starts making greeting cards? No, Trump, when he is not the president anymore, he is going to like do a bunch of terrible startups. Like he's going to be like, what if we did soda for dogs? Like that'll be his thing. He's going to kickstart soda for dogs.
Starting point is 00:34:37 He'll go right back to having his own network. Oh, terrible. I do love that Bush, after Trump's inauguration was like that was some weird shit such a like perfect meeting of the two sensibilities he really got off scot-free
Starting point is 00:34:54 in the public eye they're like oh look he's wearing a poncho it's almost like he didn't start that fake war wasn't he like wearing it wrong or something they're like oh he's a cute little cartoon yeah It's like, um, excuse me. Yeah. He couldn't have done it better. Wasn't he like wearing it wrong or something? Yeah. I feel like. They're like, oh, he's a cute little cartoon. Maybe that was photoshopped.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, there's, I was just listening to an interview with somebody who wrote a book called Squeezed that's about how even though we have all these great economic indicators, the middle class and just Americans in general can afford way, way less than we could like 10 years ago. And they were talking about how an actual thing that is now a go-to institution in America is
Starting point is 00:35:32 crowdfunding. They are crowdfunding school districts, all school supplies and shit. So that's one thing that kept popping in my head as I was thinking about an America without Roe v. Wade is like, are we going to have to rebuild the Underground Railroad type thing and like, you know, fund just illegal abortion clinics like on. Which is what happened pre-Roe v. Wade. Right, exactly. It was so dangerous and just like puts the lives of all women at risk, which the government doesn't care about. Be it like offshore barges. Correct. Critics on offshore barges.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Seriously. Fuck. Let's talk Boston schools. Let's talk Boston schools. But this will be a happy story, right? Right. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:17 It's a laugh rat. We sandwich it, Matt. Okay. All right. This is an interesting story that has kind of evolved quite a bit in the past week. I don't know if you know this because I never shut up about it, but I'm from Boston. What? Yeah, I'm from Boston, Massachusetts.
Starting point is 00:36:35 And the superintendent of Boston Public Schools, a man named Tommy Chang, he resigned technically, but he was basically asked to resign by Mayor Marty Walsh, who I think that's the first time anyone's used an R in one saying. Mayor Marty Walsh. Mayor Marty Walsh. Mayor Marty Walsh. King Zamboni himself.
Starting point is 00:36:57 King of the ice. Marty Walsh, who I have other issues with. So the Boston Public Schools superintendent was pressured to resign after he was sued over allegedly handing over information to the government about the immigration status of his students. In spite of being an immigrant himself, he immigrated from Taiwan when he was very young. I learned about this story, interestingly enough, through TDZ fave Brody Reed
Starting point is 00:37:27 because this man Tommy Chang was his teacher in high school and was like a teacher he really admired who has now sort of come under fire. And it's still unclear exactly what the truth is there. They're sort of waiting for the documents of exactly how much information was given to the government about student immigration status. But it's for the documents of exactly how much information was given to the government about student immigration status, but it's basically the equivalent
Starting point is 00:37:48 of turning your students in to ICE. Did they request that or did he just volunteer? Not that it makes a huge difference. I guess it was requested and they handed it over. So they're going around requesting this from schools? Yeah, I feel like that is
Starting point is 00:38:03 for some reason it does seem relevant to me, and I think maybe it's because things went from normal sane universe to upside down secret police arresting children universe so quickly that he just might not have been able to adapt to that reality that you just say no to the government when they ask you something quickly enough. And this is maybe naive of me, but that hadn't even occurred to me that that would be like an outlet for ICE and organizations like it to pursue, to break families apart is to go through the public schooling system. Yeah, because they have those records ready to go. They don't even have to do any work.
Starting point is 00:38:47 They'll probably see something and just go, okay, these 23 kids. And the schools know the families personally. Oh, man. It's interesting that, I mean, in Massachusetts where it does have such a rep for being white puritanical state in spite of being generally very progressive but but it is a very diverse state and the fact that this is happening i find very disturbing like my my uh mom and my cousin are both teachers in a majority immigrant district and just like the thought of any of their students uh you know personal information stuff like a five-year-old is telling you being held against them and their
Starting point is 00:39:22 families is just horrifying uh but tommy Tommy Chang released a statement right after resigning, sort of refuting this. He said, public schools gave me the opportunity that made me what I am today, a journey millions of Americans have taken. Immigrants make this nation strong. And like so many people, I'm horrified by some of the actions our federal government is taking, particularly against immigrant families, actions that I believe are fundamentally contradictory to what this country stands for. I've long spoken out on the need to protect immigrant students and will continue to do so. So he's saying that he's not doing anything.
Starting point is 00:39:52 Did he say that? I didn't hear that he's not doing anything. He's just saying... Well, that's the thing. He's saying I was an immigrant who benefited from the public school system, which I absolutely believe, but that doesn't mean that you didn't do that. He didn't deny it in that statement, did he?
Starting point is 00:40:06 Exactly. I mean, he says earlier in the statement that he was not. My guess would be I don't necessarily think this man was out to do that. I do believe that there's a world where he gave that information before it was. Or didn't prevent it from happening. Right. It was complicit in it happening or something like that. But that was a big enough deal in the city where he was basically
Starting point is 00:40:30 asked by the mayor to resign from his job. Wow. So, I mean, good on Mayor Walsh, which is not something I say very often. Mayor Mighty Walsh. Mayor Walsh, come fight me. We'll get into that East Coast, West Coast beef another day. But we do have to check in with kind of to the conservative part of the country, or at least the handful of people who are in a position of power and complicit in the policies that the progressive people disagree with and the response to this from the you know the right-wing internet foot soldiers has been interesting uh so they are out picketing the red hen red hen like i don't think has been able to open uh fully since this happened they're picketingeting it with signs that support Sarah. Oh, no, wait. They're carrying signs that read, homos are full of demons and let God burn them
Starting point is 00:41:51 using the LGBT rainbow motif. And yeah, they throw chicken poop at the red hen while shouting, make America great. Is that because it's called the red hen? I think probably. I mean, we got to give them some credit. They're like, you know what would be funny? But it shouldn't be cow shit.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Did you see that Bernie Sanders straight up announced, he's like, I think that Sarah Sanders has the right to, quote, go into a restaurant and have dinner, unquote. I'm like, is this just old people shit now? That's a very old person opinion. Like. I'm like, is this just old people shit now? Is this like, that's a very old person opinion. Like, I'm hungry. He's thinking it more in terms of like, am I going to get my pancakes?
Starting point is 00:42:33 Right, it's like the 55 plus menu rules. He's more from the old people, food takes too long side of the demographic. Dumb. I wasn't here for that Sanders solidarity. he's like from one sanders to another i think you should be able to eat wherever the freak you want speaking as part of the the sanders demographic and not the the progressive one frick off danny danny sanders danny as you call him danny ph Phantom. There are 10 different restaurants that have been mistaken for the Red Hen just because they have like red or hen in the title. And they're all being bombarded with Yelp reviews.
Starting point is 00:43:15 Red Lobster. Red Lobster. All Red Lobsters have been shut down. Red Robin. The Old Red Hen in a small town in Canada were called liberal trash. And some of them were being spray painted. And so the really disturbing thing is that some of these folks have done their favorite thing, which is create a Pizzagate conspiracy theory that it is a front for child abuse and organized crime. Well, if that's the case, why was Sarah Sanders there in the first place?
Starting point is 00:43:44 Right. She must have known. I mean, she's very aware of the deep state rumblings and all of that. Right. Yeah, she would be the person to know. So follow the child pornography, I guess. Don't love the rest.
Starting point is 00:43:58 I think everyone just like, shut up, go to Denny's, 2468 menu, you'll be fine. Like, this is such a's, 2468 menu, you'll be fine. This is such a classic distraction story. Every time a story like this pops up, I'm like, okay, so what is real? Not to get all tinfoil hatty, but every time a story like this gets huge, you're just like, okay, so something way worse is happening, and they're just like, hey, what about the restaurant thing? way worse is happening.
Starting point is 00:44:24 And they're just like, hey, what about the restaurant thing? And it's like, okay, so let's not talk about the world exploding. Let's talk about the Red Hen restaurant. Yeah. They're also posting photos of the owner and her children on threads on Vote and 4chan. And Alex Jones is telling people to surve surveil the red hen because quote when somebody firebombs it it'll be something like the Southern Poverty Law Center the ADL Antifa so now he's doing pre conspiracy yes yeah which he tends to do so you know cool cool stuff I know you didn't have me on this
Starting point is 00:45:03 podcast to be depressed but but that's where we're headed. I am there. Hey. First, we stripped you of your big dick energy. Which I didn't even know I had. Yes. I know. I made no use of it.
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Starting point is 00:46:40 I head back to my hometown in Kentucky and try to convince my high school to change their racist mascot, the Rebels, into something everyone in the South loves, the Biscuits. I was a lady rebel. Like, what does that even mean? I mean, the Boone County Rebels will stay the Boone County Rebels with the image of the Biscuits. It's right here in black and white in print. A lion. An individual that came to the school saying that God sent him to talk to me about the mascot switch. As a leader, you choose hills that you want to die on. Why would we want to be the losing team? I'd just take all the other stuff out of it. On the segregation academies, when civil rights said that we need to integrate public schools,
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Starting point is 00:49:25 or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back, and we are joined by super producer Ana Hosnier, who is our resident Jersey Shore expert in the sense that she has watched some of this season. I watched it all. But you didn't know that tonight was... Do not ever disrespect me again by saying that. But tonight is the
Starting point is 00:49:53 finale. Tonight's the finale. It's Thursday, baby, aka Jersey. As we call it around here. That's actually a real branded thing that MTV has put out and let's be real. I remember Jersey States.
Starting point is 00:50:07 I have it tattooed all over my back. Jersey States in high school. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know if anyone who listens from college, but my Jersey Shore Thursday viewing parties were legendary. I believe it.
Starting point is 00:50:19 Did you do like crack a Mike's heart and go in? No, we drank very fancy wine and discussed it quite intellectually. So this is like the family reunion season where they all get back together and the evidence of their years of hard living is just all over their faces.
Starting point is 00:50:40 It's a season where you start to be like, okay, you guys, maybe time to wrap it up. Tap the brakes. It would be amazing to watch that alongside 30-something. Do you guys remember that show? No. It was like a show, like ABC drama about just yuppie white couples in their 30s. Like they're the same age now as Jersey Shore.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Right. Yeah. And just those two, I got to do a podcast. Never mind. She's coming to do a podcast. Never mind. This isn't coming to you. Cut that out. Cut that out. Okay.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Yeah, so there's lots going on in this season. JWoww and Snooki, they're the parents, the responsible ones, but they, you know, at the same time, they can club. So they're both parents now and they are clubbing. Snooki always says like, I don't drink this much and then like proceeds to drink like five bottles of liquor it's so surreal how people can do stuff like that they're just like here to remind us of our mortality at this point yeah um and theirs dj poly d is also a parent but clearly has kind of a bad baby mama situation so he never talks he only brought up
Starting point is 00:51:43 his kid once like you would never know he was a father except for those like one interaction he had with like jwoww or something um mike the situation he is sober and boy does he eat a lot most of the show is them making fun of how much food he eats now like he's replaced his addiction with like a food addiction gotta fill that hole with something man um he proposed to his girlfriend in the last episode. It was beautiful. Oh, that is beautiful. But he probably will go to jail for tax evasion. Wow.
Starting point is 00:52:09 Which is, yeah. Equally beautiful. Yeah. Equally beautiful. Hey, I have the guy who barely remembers the first season of Jersey Shore Update. DJ Pauly D and Vinny are not the same person. Vinny, I didn't even remember from the first season, but that is a credit to him. Vinny was the least Guido of them all.
Starting point is 00:52:32 Right. So Pauly D is the guy with the spiky hair. Yes. Vinny is the guy with short hair that you don't remember. Yeah, and Vinny got very Hollywood. He's got body dysmorphia. He thinks he needs to be on the keto diet nonstop and never eats and is
Starting point is 00:52:50 super thin and dresses really hip and everyone just makes fun of him. Clearly he's a little insecure about what he looks like. Wait a minute. A Jersey Shore person is insecure? It is to levels where you're like, come on Vinny, you don't need this.
Starting point is 00:53:05 Wait, who on the shore has BD? I was going to ask. Snooki does. A lot of them got a lot of work done as well since the last time we seen them. Snooki's lips are a little crowned up a little. I remember JWoww was the first into that. Yeah. JWoww looks great.
Starting point is 00:53:22 You can tell being a mother has done her well. It's one way it. Now, the real problem situation, not the situation, but the real issue. Who's the problem? I'm not familiar with him. Ronnie the problem Ortiz Magro. This guy, Ronnie, throughout this entire season has just been struggling. He goes between drinking too hard and grinding up on strippers and other women in clubs and potentially cheating on his girlfriend to crying the whole time.
Starting point is 00:53:54 Because he's got this pregnant woman at home who, on the show, she's still pregnant. Currently, she has had the baby. And they are in the ugliest, like, Twitter fight, like, on and off relationship battle. It's not good. Currently, TMZ has reported that Ronnie was left a bloody mess after Jen Harley, his baby mama, basically punched him in the face in the car. And then he tried to get out. And then I guess his seatbelt got caught on something. So he was dragged behind the car as she drove drove off and so she got arrested naturally um and then
Starting point is 00:54:31 there's like pictures of the vehicle all over tmz and it's like super bloody also they're like two month old ariana was in the car it's a whole situation yeah It's confusing. I'm so sorry. It really does. Yeah, so apparently friends are concerned for Ronnie's safety. Her mugshot is very... She looks like a woman you don't want. She looks like a Disney villain. You don't want to mess with Jen Harley. Oh, no. Very Disney villain.
Starting point is 00:54:59 Big eyebrow mistakes being made on the face. Also, it's very clear that Ronnie's still in love with his former girlfriend, Sammy Sweetheart, because she didn't want to come back to the reunion, clearly, because she's like, this is a mess and I'm not doing this anymore and I'm in a healthy relationship and trying to get my life. Is she, I think I remember her from the first season
Starting point is 00:55:15 being kind of like Vinny, kind of like a little more normal. Is that right? Yeah. She was the least guidette of the guidettes. Yeah. So she didn't come back. Her and Ronnie have been broken up for a while now, but he talks about her all the time. He's like, I'm not in love with her, but anyway, so Sammy. It's just like, it's an obsession that he hasn't let go of.
Starting point is 00:55:37 Which one's Ronnie? What's his hair silhouette? He's thick. He's this guy's least hair. He's like the real strong guy, bodybuilder type. This guy. Oh, right. Ronnie was the big dog. He's got the real strong guy, bodybuilder type. This guy. Oh, right. Ronnie was the big dog.
Starting point is 00:55:47 He's got the square head. Yeah. He's the one with the square head. He beats up the beat, right? Yeah. Well, they all beat up the beat, let's be real. But yeah, so it's interesting to see these adults slowly continue to not really grow up all that much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Surprising, though. Yeah. Love it. Love the show. Hope there Surprising, though. Yeah. Love it. Love the show. Hope there's another season of the book. There will. There will be. They'll reunite every 10 years, like the documentary series 7 Up.
Starting point is 00:56:12 Have you ever seen that, where it follows the people through their whole lives? They're going to do that with Jersey Shore, I'm sure. The great longitudinal study. It is. That's the only silver lining to this thing, is you're going to have a slice of American life of the 21st century. Yeah, exactly. Incredible. The corrupting influence of reality show fame.
Starting point is 00:56:33 Yes. So, Matt, you were talking about there is apparently in IOUs to remake The Last Jedi. I think you mean galactic credits. Right, galactic credits. But you're saying they took it up a notch with a manifesto? Yes. So I saw this on Twitter, I think, yesterday, and it is the stupidest shit I have ever seen outside of the current administration. Right. Okay. So this group of people that you've probably heard that they want to remake The Last Jedi, right? Fan or not of that movie, this is a whole different story.
Starting point is 00:57:14 They now have released a written manifesto that is graphically designed to look like kind of like a constitutional certificate so it has fonts and like bigger capital letters and and um it has a an emblem that they've made that represents their rebellion to the current status of lucasfilm and it has they they line out what the colors all mean thematically for them and like this is the resistance this is the rebellion this is the characters this is you know the things that matter and they're called we the fans and they're basically doing an uprising of star wars and they wrote this whole thing about how they essentially want a coup for kathleen kennedy at lucasfilm they understand the need for a unifying vision and someone to lead it but say that this is the wrong person and that they've ruined star wars and it is the most
Starting point is 00:58:00 sincere almost endearingly sincere to the the point of like, you don't know what you're doing. Then they released the same thing in Arabesh, which is the Star Wars alphabet. In case some of the mainstream laymen didn't understand it. Now Disney will take it seriously. But it is the stupidest thing I've
Starting point is 00:58:20 ever seen. What are they hoping to change exactly well i think the last jedi was the tipping point for them they feel like they were wronged and some of the now i mean i actually somewhat agree on some of the like creative choices but where we differ hugely is i understand that i go to see these movies i don't own them i'm not entitled to them right but they're not for me necessarily therefore i mean i'm a big star wars fan but there seems to be an entitlement to these people that is like nothing i have ever seen before and this isn't wholly a like men's rights thing where they're
Starting point is 00:58:55 like we want to replace daisy ridley with danny ridley or like just some of that some of it's in there and that's the stuff you agree with right oh yeah absolutely yeah and that's in there. Some of it's in there. And that's the stuff you agree with, right? Oh, absolutely. Yeah. And that's why I want to talk about my own manifesto. One I saw, yeah, here's a tweet I saw last night, a picture of Laura Dern's character. I haven't seen The Last Jedi. I don't have time for nerds. But as I've said many times. How many times have you seen I, Frankenstein? 12 times.
Starting point is 00:59:22 And that's for geniuses only. Oh, I understand. I understand. BDE. But it says, I have a question about Star Wars The Last Jedi. Seriously, do you believe this purple-haired woman wearing a prom dress can become an admiral of an army in any universe? And you're like, why? You're drawing the line at Lara Dern with purple hair. Also, let me refer you to Princess Leia in a white flowing silk gown and cinnamon bun hair.
Starting point is 00:59:46 Right. It's so stupid. They don't question anything that was grandfathered in before that. Right. Yeah, no, that stuff is all the beginning. That's what they inherited. The sincerity and the gravitas with which they present this thing. People will take us seriously if we treat this like a government issue document.
Starting point is 01:00:04 And it was beautiful in its own right the design of the manifesto uh immediately disqualifies any artistic credentials of these people it's really like not great no it feels like it was done in an early like quark paint yeah document or something yeah do you have a picture of it yeah oh my god it looks like it was done in an early quark paint document or something. Do you have a picture of it? Yeah. Oh, my God. It looks like it. No, I think what it is is you go to a website who will do free stationary printout things,
Starting point is 01:00:33 templates and stuff. Yeah. Oh, man. It's fake wooden background and just very important. You're never going to get graphic design right. It's just a fact. The more sincerely you feel, the closer to word art your design becomes. Directly proportional.
Starting point is 01:00:50 It is. The rule. So Time has released their list of the 25 most influential people on the internet. Super producer Anna Hosnier, you have looked at this list? Yeah, we could do without it. But there are a few people on the list that I feel are worth mentioning. The rest I'm not even going to acknowledge because... Ooh, who are your faves?
Starting point is 01:01:12 I have some faves. It's a bad place. I have some faves on this list. Well, Rihanna, the queen. I mean, not like the queen, but like the princess, if you will. I don't want to come for a bay. Please be a bay hive. Don't come for me.
Starting point is 01:01:25 But she's on it because she's an amazing human being and everything she does is fascinating. She is like my father in the same sense that he also takes a wine glass everywhere with him. Your dad is full open container dirt.
Starting point is 01:01:41 Let's not get into the old Persian man dick energy. Charlotte and Dave Wilner, they're the people on facebook who started the reunite an immigrant parent with their child fundraiser which has reached 20 million dollars which is amazing because wow they're gonna reunite and then yeah have a college scholarship yeah yeah um Yeah. Some of these people, like President Trump does not need to be on this. Wait, President Trump is on it? That's why, let's not even.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Major influencer. Because it's not just good influencing, right? He tweets. Yeah, anybody moving the world. This is one that kind of broke my heart. Deezus and Mero on it,
Starting point is 01:02:18 but they put their real names, Daniel Baker and Joel Martinez, which I think is so inappropriate. Like, that's Loki snitching. There's a New York Times. Yeah, thatkey snitching. There's a New York Times piece on them where they only refer to them as their names
Starting point is 01:02:32 and it's so upsetting. This follows up with my New York Times extremely low-dick energy. Total narcs. Because they're following some style guide where it says you have to use people's legal names or whatever. That's disgusting.
Starting point is 01:02:47 I sort of like that old school style where everyone is brought to their lowest common denominator. There's something about that I really like. I don't know what it is. I like that Lil Miquela's on this list. Oh, interesting. I don't even know who that is. Lil Miquela is a- You mean Janice Mitchell?
Starting point is 01:03:01 No. Lil Miquela is, I think it's a fascinating project that is kind of sold out in a weird way. But she's like a virtual CGI influencer that people didn't know she was real or not for a very long time. She has a very popular Instagram. And then she is literally a hologram. She does not exist. But she has these huge endorsements. I think it's very interesting.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Is it like Sim 1? Do you remember Sim 1 or whatever that movie was? Right, yeah. It's all happening. But so it's because, so this is not just people who are only influential on the internet. So like, is Obama on there? No. So this is actually interesting.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Like Iman Al-Nafjan, who is the Saudi Arabian activist blogger who is currently being held. She was one of the first people who was really pushing for women to be able to drive. And of course, she's jailed on unspecified charges because that's how Saudi Arabia likes to do it. She's on the list. Can you imagine the women drivers stand up comedy that's going to start coming out of Saudi Arabia?
Starting point is 01:04:04 Oh, my God. Well, there's already a rap video that's out. start coming out of Saudi Arabia. Oh, my God. Well, there's already a rap video that's out. It's fucking dope. Great video. Is Jeff Bezos on there? No, of course he's not. He doesn't do anything on the internet. Scott Rogowski's on here.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Yeah, like the little boy who does- She doesn't do anything on the internet? No. Okay. The little boy who does toy reviews is on here. I love Ryan's toy review. And then right after him is Sean king who's like actually like a real legend he is amazing he got famous after the death of michael brown he went on twitter and
Starting point is 01:04:32 shared a lot of details about it and he is a strong supporter of the black lives matter and i retweet him a lot i think he's amazing and he was a former um pastor turned internet activist. But again, this Time magazine is a garbage publication. And this list makes no sense because there's no metric that they're really using. Because some people are influential on the internet because they're the president of the United States. And some people are influential only on the internet. And it's basically Time magazine's way of like listing a bunch of people they think will make them relevant.
Starting point is 01:05:09 Right. Well, one interesting one is Tony Liu and Lindsay Schiller of At Diet Prada, which is an Instagram that shows when brands steal from smaller artists, which I actually appreciate. That's awesome. Because that's important. Yeah. No, that's really great. So I'm glad they're on it.
Starting point is 01:05:24 It's a good way to find out about cool stuff on the internet, I guess. And then, you know, of course, there's literally garbage bag fires of, what's his name, Drudge. Old Drudgy Boy is on here, Matt Drudge. He is influential. I'm more upset about Scott Rogowski
Starting point is 01:05:40 than Drudge. QAnon is on this list, because why not? Okay, sure. Yeah, internet story, search. And the Paul brothers, right, are on there? Both of them. Yeah, I wasn't going to acknowledge them. Is Chris one of the Paul brothers?
Starting point is 01:05:55 The students of Parkland, Florida, they're on it. Okay. Kylie Jenner. Goodbye, world. Yeah, there's no clear, like, what. I thought this would be a list of internet dirt freaks who are famous for internet.
Starting point is 01:06:09 You can't be the president of the United States on this list. Doesn't make sense. Alright. Finally, let's just do a real quick check in with the World Cup. It's our World Cup date. Matt, you're following this sporting event. It's literally the only sports I ever watch. What's the latest?
Starting point is 01:06:37 You're a World Cup correspondent. I got fired from the Cup date. You did? I blew it the other day. All right, Matt Coney coming live from Volgograd Stadium in Russia for the 2018 World Cup FIFA round of 16. He even knows what country it's in. Well, I'm pulling for Mexico just because of the current climate and politics. Our neighbor played a miserable game yesterday.
Starting point is 01:07:02 That was rough to watch. Did they just pull all their starters because it didn't matter? You know, I'm by no means an expert, so I just watched it. I don't really know that much. Yeah, they lost 3-0 after playing great in their first two games. I know, they played amazingly well. Yeah. And the prospects were looking good.
Starting point is 01:07:19 And then just scraped by into the next round, barely because Germany played so poorly against South Korea. Yeah. Yeah. South Korea beat Germany. Yeah. And Germany, the champions from the 2014 World Cup. I know.
Starting point is 01:07:31 That's crazy. And apparently that happens all the time. We were trying to figure that out yesterday. I don't know why, maybe. Like, why? Because you're aware of your big dick energy. Right. And then-
Starting point is 01:07:39 And then your big dick energy- Robbed of it. It takes your balance off. That's why, yeah. Your balance is off because you're too forward leaning from your big south korea and sweden both like we're little dick energies right bam they fight don't realize you have big dick energy until you've won though there's this thing with uh american soccer fans where they're like mad at landon donovan for saying that he's supporting mexico in this world cup Cup because they're supposed to be our rivals.
Starting point is 01:08:06 But I'm kind of just like, fuck off, American soccer. You guys didn't make it to the World Cup. You don't get to say who we root for. Also, the national thing is a bit of a smokescreen anyway because there's so many people playing on other countries' teams and stuff. Fuck off, American soccer is where I come down on this episode of World Cup Date. Unless you can get good enough and then let's do this. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:31 But come on. Come on. Put some work into it. Matt, it has been a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. It's been a pleasure being on it. I hope I get to be on every incarnation of a podcast you do. Where can people find you, follow you?
Starting point is 01:08:47 And also, you said you have something coming up, a new project coming up for people to look out for. I'm Matt Gourley on Twitter, M-A-T-T-G-O-U-R-L-E-Y, and Instagram and all that stuff. And then Paul Rust and I are both fans of the franchise Friday the 13th. So we're doing a limited run podcast on Stitcher Premium that will be free to the public. Stitchy Preemes. Stitchy Preemes. Stitchy Preemes. And that will be coming out Friday, July 13th will be the first episode.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Watch out now. I guess. Yeah. There's not a Friday the 13th coming be the first episode. Watch out now. I guess. There's not a Friday the 13th coming out. No, but actually my first love is the Halloween franchise, so I'm so excited about that coming back. I'm not sure why we started a Friday the 13th. It just was the first we talked about,
Starting point is 01:09:38 but maybe we'll cover Halloween too. Awesome. I look forward to that as somebody who was way too into Friday the 13th when I was seven. That's going to be awesome. Jamie. Yeah. Hey. Hey.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Hey. Where can people find you? Follow you. You can find me at Twitter.com, at Jamie Loftus Help, Instagram, at Jamie Christ Superstar. If you're in the LA area, come on out to my show this Saturday. star if you're in the la area come on out to my show this saturday it's called the hacker who codes featuring uh some some heavy santa university content what in it yeah i know it's uh taking shape not done writing it everyone should come see i've never seen somebody as serious about the fidget spinners on our table i'm sorry i'm just trying new things. I just had an episode. I'm also sitting like cross-legged. I don't know what I'm doing right now.
Starting point is 01:10:27 It looks like I'm... You're giving off the energy. Don't tell me that I lost it again. And listen to the Bechdel cast. Yes, the Bechdel cast is on the Hey Sluts What's Up network. And it is so good. And people are checking it out and loving it and you should too um and we also usually ask our guests and co-hosts what a tweet is that they enjoyed
Starting point is 01:10:55 so that people listen to the end a little trick is there any tweet jamie and matt that you would like to share with us? Yes, I'd like to share a Jake Weissman original with you. It made me laugh a lot yesterday. He said, I can't believe Justice Kennedy is retiring from the Supreme Court to pursue his dream of being in porn. Just goes to show you it's never too late to pursue your dreams. Good for him. That's a fun upper.
Starting point is 01:11:25 That's the happiest take on that. Yeah. I'm going to share a tweet from Ana Hosnier, a super producer, Ana Hosnier, who says, all these stills are low-key terrifying. If you imagine Wayne Newton as a stranger
Starting point is 01:11:37 who approached you out of nowhere, they are pictures from the set of The Bachelor and they are straight up terrifying because he looks like he's wearing a mask of Wayne Newton. He's a drifter who put on a mask. To be fair, Wayne Newton looks like he's wearing a mask of Wayne Newton. Yeah, exactly. Someone needs to unzip.
Starting point is 01:11:55 It is I, also Wayne Newton. Matt, do you have a tweet you'd like to share with us? Well, I was looking through my tweets to see if I'd retweeted anything interesting. And no. Hey. Big dick energy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:09 Oh, man. I know. That is such big dick energy. Oh, my God. It's like, nah. Nah, fuck it. Don't need it. I'm good.
Starting point is 01:12:16 Have a good day. I'm quitting Twitter right now. Quitting Twitter. Right. I'm going to buy one of those SUVs that has a tent out the back of it. Right. Just go live on a quarry follows one person and it's himself
Starting point is 01:12:28 or something like that uh alright you can follow me at jack underscore o'brien on twitter you can follow us
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Starting point is 01:12:46 Footnotes! Where we link off to the information in today's episode as well as the song that we write out on, which to a producer on a Hosnia, what's that going to be? Oh, thank you so much for having me. I would like to write out on Charlotte Day Wilson's song, Work. I really like this song. I'm really into soul
Starting point is 01:13:02 and women right now, so please enjoy this song. Also, watch the video. I'm really into soul and women right now, so please enjoy this song. Also, watch the video. I'll put it in our footnotes. It's a really beautiful video and she has quoted as saying, I really wanted to use shooting the video as an opportunity to organize an afternoon of camaraderie with an amazing group of women, gender,
Starting point is 01:13:18 queer, and trans folks from my community in Toronto. So it's very inclusive and I love her work and her music is amazing and her voice is beautiful. Alright, we're going're gonna ride out on that we will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast talk to you guys then bye It's gonna take a bit of work Oh, work Now that you're here Oh, work
Starting point is 01:14:18 Cause people call me ghost Cause people come and go But I think you should know That I I think this will work Ooh This'll work It's gonna take a little time But with you by my side I won't let go Till I've got what's mine
Starting point is 01:15:25 Cause people come and go But you should know That I, that I I'll take it slow It's gonna take a bit of work Now that you're here Whoa, whoa It's gonna take a bit of work Oh, whoa
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