The Daily Zeitgeist - DOJ Where Art Thou? Strange Grammys… 4.05.22

Episode Date: April 5, 2022

In episode 1219, Miles and guest co-host Joelle Monique are joined by comedian Jono Zalay to discuss…Biden to DOJ- tf is goin on over there?, Meanwhile Trump has just sat and watched Truth Social just turn into a total shitshow, Grammys were…strange, Some stuff you SHOULDN’T store on the fridge door? And more! Biden to DOJ- tf is goin on over there? Meanwhile Trump has just sat and watched Truth Social just turn into a total shitshow Some stuff you SHOULDN’T store on the fridge door? Jono's Album - Midnight Oil: bible.recipes LISTEN: Siesta/Wake Up!!! That's What I Said by Billy CobhamSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Oh, hello, the internet. Welcome to season 231, episode two of the Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's fucked up shared consciousness. Buckle your ear belts because it's Tuesday, April 5th, 2022. You know what April 5th is. I'm not a fool. I know what April 5th is. I'm not a fool. I know what April 5th is because I celebrate this every year because I'm so loyal to it. National Library Workers Day.

Shout out all the library workers. Shout out all the people who fuck with the Dewey Decimal System. I seize ya. Also, I'd be a fool because I don't know about this day. And more than one person said, hey, man, April 5th, you really gotta shut this day up. I said, okay, what is it? They said about this day. And more than one person said, hey, man, April 5th, you really got to shut this day up. I said, okay, what is it? They said first contact day. I said, I don't wear contact lenses, but I do like the Jodie Foster film Contact.

And the first time I saw it, I can't remember. Is it the anniversary of that? No. It's about April 5th, 2063. Fuck with me. Go into the future really quick. All my Trekkies out there because it celebrates the day the first time earthlings encounter the vulcans hey so big day important day in the history sorry dude we don't have this day okay we don't have the greatest star trek character of all time spock right so is this

spock wait but this is someone else though april 5th this is when they pulled up on spock no no other vulcans was birthed after because his mom is human and his dad is vulcan oh yes right shout out to all my half people out there yeah dude half people like what's like we should do like a half like half breed fantasy draft like who do you have like you got blade okay spock fucking harry isn't harry potter half i mean he's half magic half not his mom was muggle technically so yes right right i'm just saying you know just for for people out there biracial people out there you know we can also celebrate oh someone said hermione oh so okay hermione okay i see you no becca no hermione both of hermione's parents are muggles she's a witch

but that doesn't make her from two separate worlds. It's just like... Wait, so is she like a Rachel Dolezal type witch? But she's not faking it. Oh, okay. Sometimes muggles just birth a magical... Oh, they do? See, I don't know shit about Harry Potter. So I'm like, I don't know.

Like, did she just sneak in? They're like, you know Hermione. It's just nuts. Do you see the way she said Expelliarmus? Oh my. Okay. know her mind he's like frontin bro do you see the way she said expel your most oh my okay anyway um i'm fucking miles gray aka my new things to eat bananas whack yellow is too raw i need that black that's how i get my potassium that's how i get my potassium i start from bananas b- B-A-N-A-N-U-S. I start from bananas.

B-A-N-A-N-U-S. Shout out to Fighter of the Nightmare for that wonderful Gwen Stefani hollaback girl, a.k.a. Yes, because this is all about alternative ways of eating fruit. We talked about eating apples from the bottom up. And other people talk about you don't open your bananas from that like top notch that you know that connects all the bananas together you start from the bottom that's where the action's at so a quick reference to that but i don't need to press that any further what i do need to press further is introducing my guest host someone who is just

wonderful is just brilliant is intelligent is intelligent, knows fucking everything. I said, what the fuck is first contact day? And she's like, oh, this is very important. Count on this person to help me not be completely ignorant of everything that's happening in the world. Please welcome my guest co-host, Joelle Monique. Hey, welcome back to me. Yes, welcome back to you. I'm myself as a potter head in these troubling times of Potterdom.

So sorry, everybody. Wait, is that bad? You were really rubbing your temple. It's really frustrating to have loved something so much and to now want to be just so far away from it. To the point where you're like, if it... I think the ballsiest things Warner Brothers could... They'll never do it because, you know, capitalism. But they're like, you know what? We're just going to pack up Harry Potter land.

Like, we don't deserve it. That's over. We don't want to be contributing to the spread of transphobia in such a vitriolic way. But yeah, it's no longer fun. She ruined it. Right, right, right. It happens. It happens.

Sorry, people. Things change. We all change. You know, we all grow up. Well, let's right. It happens. It happens. Sorry, people. Things change. We all change. You know, we all grow up. Well, let's introduce our guest today. This is somebody who's come on the show on the regular. Been down since the earliest episodes. And, you know, one of the smartest comedians out there.

Not just because their observational humor is just cutting and razor sharp. It's actually because they have a doctor in neuroscience okay uh you may have seen their stand-up i don't know places like comedy central maybe amazon prime maybe you even uh heard the newest album midnight oil well please welcome to the show the og of dmv license what is? Driver's license photo pranks. Yes, I almost had a flawless intro. Jono's the way! Hey, Zagang. Good to be back.

What's up, Jono? Yeah. How are you? I'm well. Check out that new album. It's on, you know, you can buy new websites with just different URL extensions.

So it's not.com. It's like.golf anymore. So I simplified it. You can get my album on jokes.farm or my favorite bible.recipes Bible.recipes Smash that

http hs whatever bible.recipes and get that midnight oil. Bam bam bam. Are there any Christian moms emailing you angrily yet? There are no recipes on here.

And if there were, God would not like that. Oh, no. I need, I want that he is risen three layer dip. Oh, my gosh. For the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. And I won't tell you what I put in the sour cream. That's proprietary. Oh, no.

I was just thinking, are there Bible recipes? Well, so one of my jokes in the album, which has made me think of it, is that like there's a rule that you're not supposed to eat owls in the Bible. Oh. And it's like, wow, what was happening back in biblical times that they had to get God involved with these bird recipes? Right. times that they had to get god involved with these bird recipes right or is it like is this like a thing too where because like you know the bible is written by fucking people who are just like had you know just like yeah this is what i'm pretty sure i heard was going on based on these letters i have is like the it's like people are just taking shots just like you know like they're sub-tweeting people Through how they're writing the bible And they're like also don't eat owls

Because I went over to Joseph's house the owl that they were Serving there was trash Don't ever do that shit Right The pharisees are eating owls We can't allow that Anyway I don't know

Where were you saying Joel Wait bible recipes No that's trash where were you saying joel before i was like wait bible recipes no that's a really good question um i would be interested bread from olden times doesn't taste good if you've ever been on one of those museum adventures where like this is what actually tastes like back in the horrible we really we are live in a great time for breads i don't even know if I'd want to be eating Bible recipes. They would probably lack flavor. No.

I wanted to ask Jono about the dog on the cover of the album because it's adorable. Oh, yeah. My boy, Larry. Larry. Yeah. So my dog, Larry, he's a half Beagle, half Jack Russell. And I exploitatively used him to propose to my now wife. Because I got him a name tag that read,

will you marry me on it? And then on the back, I clarified it was for me and not Larry. And then I put the ring on the collar as well. So she couldn't say no. So you made your life a real rom-com. Like you did it. Congratulations.

Right? Yeah. Living the dream. And I see you got some Clippers gear on. Oh, yeah, yeah. Good Clips. Kawhi, come back healthy, you know? Whenever you're ready.

Yeah. I mean, yeah. LA, we're not doing too hot right now. As a Bulls fan, Kawhi, take all the time you need. Yeah. Honestly. Heal up, buddy. Listen. I will drop the Clippers

slogan for their whole existence. We'll get you next year. Yeah, just wait. Just wait. You thought it was this year, so wait until next year. Wait until next year. The Lakers is just don't come here.

These people don't know what basketball is and they'll eat you alive because people don't know what basketball is, and they'll eat you alive because they don't know what's going on. The Lakers. You know what, though? I like the Bulls because I think I might be rooting for the Bulls in the post. They're really like the underdog team this year. They're scrappy. They struggle, but they fight.

I love that they're mostly just fourth quarter champions. Every game, it's like, are they going to pull off another miracle or not? It's really like heart-pounding stuff. It's been fun. I feel like the Bulls, you know, theme, trait is like every year we're like, are we back in our Jordan era? Is this it? Are we going back?

No? Not this time? It's cool. It's fine. We'll get there. We're going to come back sometime. I mean, LeVar Ball would believe that Lonzo is the second coming of Michael Jordan. So, I mean, in a way.

And he's playing really well. And I'm not going to hate on the Cali native. But anyway, like Anna said in a few episodes like last week, we're legally barred from talking about the NBA. Because that's what Jack and I's new podcast, Mad Boosties, is for. See? Quick, quick plug opportunity right there. That's how you do it. Oh, I see you working it.

Thank you. I'm very tired. Yeah, you working that shit. Let's tell Jono and the listeners what we're going to be talking about before we ask him some questions. First of all, Biden going to the DOJ, sort of having a look around like that John Travolta from Pulp Fiction meme where he's like, what the fuck's going on in here?

Are y'all doing anything in here? There seems to be a lot of feelings on the Hill swirling around what Merrick Garland, our Attorney General, is or is not doing. Meanwhile, we need to talk about Truth Social because some of the metrics are here. Before we knew it was a bad,

like just the launch was terrible. People were on waiting lists. But now we're starting to see some real hard numbers as to what's going on. And you're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is so bad. It's good. I like that. I like that.

And then talk about the Grammys from a bunch of people who didn't watch the Grammys. But I will only talk about the Grammys vis-a-vis my text, like my group threads I'm on. And that's how I kind of gauge what's happening in the world to see what penetrates the group thread for people to talk about. So we'll talk about a couple of moments that I then read up on. And then just some quick things about the refrigerator. There's apparently like shit that you should not put on the refrigerator door. Like it's not good for the food. I look, this is all these are these are like nuanced little tips about your refrigerator.

But when I hear them, I'm like, Oh, I didn't really even think about that. So maybe we'll get to that. Or we'll just eat spoiled food like a family would all together. But first, Jono, what's something from your search history that is revealing about who you are? So one thing that I'm really excited about is I just googled uh glacier tours near Anchorage because I'm going to Alaska on tomorrow for the rest of the week for a comedy festival called the before you die fest nice before you die yeah which is great perfect name because yeah it's one of those things that I wanted to see before I died was Alaska and the glaciers up there so I was seeing like what glaciers I could see while I'm up there

because there's only a certain amount of time we have to see them, period. So before I die and before the planet dies, I want to see these glaciers. So I'm going to try to get a good glimpse at a big iceberg on the land. I saw, the one time I went to Alaska with my grandparents

because old black people love a cruise. We went to Alaska many years ago. And and there when we stopped in Juneau I got to see the Mendenhall Glacier and it's seeing a glacier is like equal parts like you're just like oh my god man fucking earth huh and then the other part is like oh my god man we're fucking earth huh totally because like yeah there's just there's just something about seeing like you're like that's like the the photos from like even 60 years ago and you're like oh no like what happens when the ice cube goes full water is that bad but i'm sure for the science curious like yourself it's it's a sight to behold oh yeah oh man i'm i'm looking forward to it if i can even get there i haven't booked a ticket yet okay okay well look i know there's i there's i know

there's ak zeitgang look if you're in alaska you got some glacier tips hit up jono he's a good dude you know what i mean maybe maybe you have a personal glacier you can show him but yeah definitely definitely worth checking out also you hear the weirdest shit being talked about at a glacier like because typically there'll be like an informational center or like near the glacier, like observation point. And there you hear the wildest takes around climate change because it's a bunch of people from all over being like, let's check out the glacier. And then you get to it. And then the stuff on the walls are saying, like, due to climate change they're increasing temperatures, this shit is receding. And it's like,

look, just look at this thing. You could swipe over to see the change in fucking 10 years even. And that always kicks off like weird intra family debates. Like the one time I was there, just like this older woman was to her husband. She's like, Bill,

this seems so bad that it looks, but what, I mean, if it goes away, this could be bad for our grandkids and they're like i don't know like it's just it doesn't really matter you know like they say it's they say it's going away but nothing's really changing you're like oh bill look at the wall it's right there in front of you don't ignore the evidence yeah hit the accelerator if you go to

atlanta there you can that's where the cd is. And you can go to the CDC museum within it. That's like a tourist destination. I'd love to see family go there. It's like, well, you know, they say they cured polio and stuff. But we have those wheelchair ramps now. I think it would have been fine if we just didn't vaccinate anyone. Vaccines are over, right? I mean, the science is still out on whether they work.

Yeah, right. I mean, and you hear polio is coming back so i don't know if they're really working because people aren't vaccinating against it anymore you fuck with um but enough of our collective i mean that's the thing i'm sure like i we should we should go on a tour of places where it's like you have like these sort of cultural flashpoint kind of places where people are going to have wildly different takes but still bother to go there. You know what I mean? You don't give a fuck about the climate, but you want to see the glacier. All science is fake, but you're like, yeah, let's check out the sea. Maybe we can get in an argument. Jono, what's something you think is overrated?

Overrated would be getting married in your 20s. I recently got married in my 30s. And I got to say, the gifts you get, way better. I remember giving people wedding gifts back in the day when I was in my 20s. My normal friends were getting married. I'd go to Goodwill, get a bunch of plates you know right anything i could find there i got my one of my best friends a trophy for his wedding and like i'm sure what good did that ever do but now my friends and family have upgraded my kitchen it's just like um i've been doing all the

masterclass chefs uh things now with all my new knives. Right. Good cookware. I just drank some Nespresso from my little big Virtuo thing. It is. Look at you. I got to say. Wait. Miles just got married. What's the best gift you got? Oh, shit.

The best thing. You know, honestly, it's a set of cutting boards. I really wanted good fucking cutting boards i had the same fucked up like wood block from ikea i've been rocking around for ages and i just can't really do work and i saw this shit these like cool like post consumer made pressed board like things that you could put in a dishwasher fucking anything it was a super strong i have like five different sizes see and you know i fuck with it because i'm already like and i got my cutting boards and i think that is the difference right because i totally feel you john on the point of like in my 20s my half the time i'll be like yo motherfucker i'm broke as

shit like i'm here okay like y'all had a destination wedding and i'm here okay i got i'll hook you up with some weed when we get back in town me wearing a suit is the gift right exactly or like or going in with my friends being like okay we'll go to macy's where the registry is at and we'll each buy one of the hand towels but we'll put them we'll put them both together from both of us so it looks like at least they got the whole set but it's from two of us there you go but now i think as you get older your actual imagination for the kind of shit that you want expands because you you're living a little more if i got married in my 20s i would have asked for a volcano vaporizer i'm serious that's all i

would be like that's it i don't need anything else. I'm like, I have plastic plates and shit. I don't. I'm good. Now I got nice drinking glasses. You know. What was the nicest thing for you, Jonah? I mean, the thing I was most excited about was these knives. They got the Gustav Classic set.

Oh. Ooh. I mean, I cut my fingers so deep when I cut now. It's like. To the bone, baby. Yeah. Unless you're giving yourself a laceration, you don't have good enough knives. You're just getting a surface cut.

I feel like I got to find a friend to like go in on a scheme and be like, girl, we got to get married. We'll just divide the gifts afterwards and go our separate ways. We don't have to tell anybody. But I could use a kitchen upgrade. That's all I'm saying. Man, you could really scam some people. Just give yourself a fake destination wedding

and invite everyone you know and just say, if you can't make it, here's our registry. It's fine. And then just go to Hawaii. It's a one-month journey to the venue. But no pressure, obviously.

Most people can't come. I'm aside from the gifts do you think there's any advantages to getting married in your 30s aside from your 20s yeah i mean like you just know you're not you know who you are and everyone else in their 20s is still figuring it out so like you know you can like have a better starting point for your relationship where you're not just like, yeah, but I mean like, are, do you know how you,

how you do the chores? Do you know how you process your emotions? All that stuff is like, you like, okay, I have a better starting place. I'm not like in the wilderness with like my own shit before, before my wife or her husband or spouse at any point has to figure it out for me.

Right. Yeah. I mean, it's still, you know, I still we all we're all growing still to this day. But of course, it is. It is easier. I would be an absolute mess if I got married 10 years ago. Oh, yeah, I would have. I mean, we would have probably got we probably would have split up before the wedding because we would have fought about gifts on the register right like i would have been so juvenile and adolescent about it like i probably would have like crossed a bridge by saying something stupid and like the fight like why do we even need that like you can't even cook and don't even act like getting this new pot says gonna fix that i i need the cutting boards then i would have found my ass my mom again she's like oh you're moving back in i'm like yeah mom she doesn't even get it

but yeah i don't know i think there there is there is something uh a little bit more advantageous uh i guess you do know yourself that's why i'm always blown away by people who are like high school sweethearts i'm like y'all really made it through like your fucking late 20s for real that's crazy especially now because like my grandma did that when she was 19 she like snuck out her window and eloped to the boy who's her next door neighbor and they met in like first or second grade oh my god and they like snuck back into their windows at the end like their separate windows at the end of the night and didn't tell anybody for like a week or two but you know back in those days like divorce nearly unheard of you know what i mean

like yeah like we well we did it so we're in it and everyone had like stress rate stress-based chronic illness different eras we're in now for sure that's so romantic though damn you're over here she eloped with the neighbor boy. I'm like, what is this? Some fucking Disney stuff? Yeah. So stinking cute. Love it. Adorable.

And that's the other thing. It's always, like, cute. There's never the, like, man, it was fucked up, and we just toughed it out together. Like, typically, it's like, they're exceptional relationships. You're like, I was in love with him since third grade. Yeah, you don't see the struggles after that, though. That's the warmer movie version of it. It was like where they won the war.

And then also they had to deal with a bunch of PTSD afterward. Right, exactly. And they just raised a family. No problems. No problems at all. He sorted out. My best friend from elementary school did that, too. When she was in second grade, she picked out a kid and she was like, I want to marry that kid.

And then she did. Whoa. And they got married when she was 20. Yeah, because she was having her first baby like a couple days after her 21st birthday. Just nuts. It was nuts. I have four kids now. I don't know how y'all do it.

I don't know what I'm trying to say. What's the secret? Aside from just being more afraid of being alone than being together forever what is the secret please let us know secretly just blame everybody solve the human struggle for us right that was honestly you're like yeah i'm salty because that's how i used to always that that was miles used to be the salty loner guy who's like i don't get this shit because i was like i haven't sorted out my own parents divorce yet so i was more just like looking outside of myself like that's the problem over there i'm like therapy what huh oh oh thank you

i need to i need to do some forgiveness okay got it anyway shout out to dr shemitra my therapist i know i haven't seen you in a minute but that's because you're the shit you know what i mean underrated jono what is something you think is underrated oh the flip side of this like being older when you're married is uh and just older in general is like the underrated is having joints that work because now i'm like i have i have a brace now for every joint that i have like this this uh this little thing on my wrist that is not a bracelet that is a brace now for every joint that I have. Like this little thing on my wrist that is not a bracelet. That is a brace. Oh. I have to wear it because I have a torn TFCC ligament in my wrist.

Oh, shit. And like, yeah, I got it from doing... I do get all my injuries now from doing innocuous things. Like I have tennis elbow. I've never played tennis in 30 years. Right. So like, I just get it from like putting together furniture or I got my wrist thing because I was,

my other buddy got married last year, last year. And I was doing the Jewish chair, and I just ripped it too hard. And, uh, he was too heavy. And so I was like supporting too much of his weight.

And I was just like, it was all in your tendons. It was supporting too much of his weight. I was just like... It was all in your tendons, basically? It was all in my wrist. Now I have to wear a brace until it heals over the course of however many years because nothing heals. Nothing heals anymore. My heel doesn't heal.

I have plantar fasciitis. You have a heel that won't heal you. Yeah. I have Achilles tendonitis. I have plantar fasciitis. You name a joint, I got a brace for it. It stinks. I will say, I do have a question.

Do you have legal representation for your horror-based injury that you experienced at your friend's wedding? Because I specialize in horror-based injuries at weddings. I do people who are lifting the chairs. Also, brides and grooms that have fallen from the chair due to reckless horror chair lifting. You know, I've seen, I've seen them all, man. And I get at minimum $200 for my clients. You're at maximum 300. That's going to cover the gifts. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I don't, it's funny. The one thing I remember, like when I was starting, as I got older and like, was really trying to connect, like with my grandparents more, like in that meaningful way where you're like, acknowledge

you're like, Oh, you know what? Their time's limited. Like, I really want to have like meaningful conversations. My grandfather would always say the same shit to me. He'd just be like, just stretch your body. Just stretch your body. That's all. He's like, honestly, keep your body loose.

I know you think you can still move around. Like you think you can when you're wrong until you do and you can't. He's like, so just maintain your limberness. And I was like, you always come back to that. That's some wisdom right there. I wish I had. Grandpa knows. Yeah.

And, you know, he used to dance, too. He was like, he'd like to dance to get his get his hips loose. But, you know, when when you start hitting when you go north at 85 and i'm not talking about the highway it's it gets dodgy all right uh let's take a quick break and we'll come back to talk some news i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades.

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Last week, there was a lot of announcements as it related to the January 6th trial. We had missing call logs for over seven hours where, you know, if you were to believe the call logs, Donald Trump didn't speak to anyone on january 6th at all and never heard of a burner phone either because most people were like okay then he's using a burner phone he's like never i don't even know that is i mean i know the rapper the mc burner did you do the burner phone no but yes he then we heard jared kushner went to go speak with the january 6th committee and everyone's like, oh, shit, that's like the closest to Trump that you're getting in terms of someone speaking to that committee.

And it just felt like, OK, we're starting to see a lot of stinky shit. Like, you know, there's smoke, there's a fire at the Capitol, but things have been moving really, really slow. And I think, you know, in the backdrop to all of this, like sort of slow moving of this investigation, or at least the lack of energy from the perceived lack of energy from the DOJ is that, you know, if the Democrats keep on their streak of like lukewarm policy hits or just straight up reversals on promises, you're looking at a very high likelihood of the GOP taking over the house and dissolving the January 6th committee. So you got about nine months to figure this shit out. That's like the energy that's in the Democratic Party right now. And Merrick Garland on Friday, because everybody's been like, come on, fuck Merrick Garland. What the fuck are you doing?

Like we got all these people we've been sending, you know, referrals to the DOJ for contempt and you're not doing anything. He said on Friday, he's like, look, this isn't going to be a rushed prosecution. We're going to follow the facts exactly where they lead. And that's just about it. You know, just have some patience. And this is kind of like causing a lot of stress. And the DOJ will point to certain numbers like, yeah, there have been over 750 arrests. There is someone has a seditious conspiracy charge. There have been almost 300 people that have been charged with obstructing Congress's duty. So, you know, things are happening, but you're like, well, when does the case begin to come together? And that's why Joe Biden is asking questions out loud yeah that's that's

like what merrick garland needs to take a page out of brett kavanaugh and clarence thomas about his supreme court nomination and just go on his own revenge tour because like clarence thomas has been on his revenge tour for like two and a half decades now right no like four decades i don't even know yeah four decades no three yeah it's like 91 yeah something like that and he like he's been like he they brought up his pubic hair on the can he's like i'm gonna i'm gonna flame these guys forever and i'm gonna do it and so like and now he's now we're reaping the whirlwind from his own revenge tour at the january 6th because his wife helped plan it and everything

right kavanaugh's burning it all down like they they took a single slight and and just went absolute war and merrick garland got snubbed and should be doing the same thing where it's like he is like i have to be a serious i'm just doing i mean calling the balls and strikes it's like buddy they're they're coming after you they're there was a noose out there for Mike Pence you think there's not one for you as soon as they take over everyone is in danger if you don't do your job a little faster right it is it is it is a little alarming right because like you're saying for how pressing this issue is it seems like very casual right you know this all signs point to total rat fuckery in the coming elections because bigotry as a platform doesn't appeal to a majority of voters it works very you know strategically with how you gerrymander

districts and have these certain like nailed on red seats. But overall, if everything was just a jet put to a general election, it's a losing platform. So they're relying more on more on this underhanded shit. You look at the rally that Trump had over the weekend. He's like out here advocating for people in very specific roles that have to do with being able to determine election results or the adjudication of an election result. And so, yeah, I think that's why we're kind of curious of like, is it that he's being too scared that he doesn't want to utilize the full powers of the Department of Justice? Because a lot of people are like, you know, Congress said, yeah, we're referring you to

the Department of Justice because you're completely ignoring our subpoenas that are like lawful and you're saying yeah i feel like in any other situation like you get arrested or something like you know that's and again we find ourselves in this weird spot we're like fbi fbi let's not get too excited that's the weirdest and it's the weirdest fucking sentiment. You're like, but fuck, these guys are out here cooking out in the fucking just plain view and putting out. It's very clear to see like what their aims are. But this is what Joe Biden said. This is from a New York Times article that just came out.

Just sort of like summing up what the what President Joe Biden is thinking about. It said, quote, As recently as late last year, Mr. Biden confided to his inner circle that he believed former President Donald Trump was a threat to democracy and should be prosecuted, according to two people familiar with his comments. And while the president has never communicated his frustrations

directly to Mr. Garland, he has said privately that he wanted Mr. Garland to act less like a ponderous judge and more like a prosecutor who is willing to take decisive action over the events of January 6th. I like that too. It's like, you're not going to tell him straight up, but you will have them leak it to the New York Times. So you have the thing like, I wish privately that this guy would get off his ass privately. I would never say that

because I'm president, but also, yeah, it's messy. messy and it's sort of I mean, I even sort of it's it's genuinely frightening to be like, oh, our democracy going to hold for how much longer? Yeah. Is it time to leave? Oh, no. people really understand like how even wonky or off kilter the united states would be like when we fully fall into like the federalist society's like dream world the coke brothers dream world that's a fucking weird place too but that's you know incremental and then i think people will begin to i guess realize what's at stake in that sense but a lot of people talk about you know merrick garland you know he has the pedigree for domestic terrorism. You know, he was able to get that conviction against Timothy McVeigh for the Oklahoma City bombing. And, you know, and many people are like, that was many years ago. And since that time,

he's been mostly a judge, which is why this ponderous judge quote is coming out, because he is saying, I'm going to, to like look at every single thing and a lot of people who know him say it's just that's just how he works like he wants to make sure that if he's if he's going to actually try and fucking go after the former president that it has to be it has to be able to withstand an inevitable appeals process and has to be basically ironclad. And that's where I'm just like, Oh God, I don't know if I, I don't know how optimistic I can be about that happening just because the

data set that I'm looking at when it comes to justice in the country, it's not very, it doesn't reinforce my optimism to say that. I still feel like these things, like the one thing about, I mean, my optimism to say it i still feel like these things like the one thing about i mean living in a republic and and watching these things sort of play out is like it does take time and to do it correctly it takes a whole lot of time and so but it's so hard to place your faith in these leaders

especially i think i don't even know if especially now like kind of always has been difficult if you're a black person but for a lot of folks just to like sit around and be like, are you doing the right thing? And we don't have a lot of time to wait. Yeah. I also want you to be able to do this in court. It's a, it's very challenging.

It's like Mueller was like, they said like all similar methodical and not political, all that stuff. Where it's like, I'm just gathering facts. And like, he brought a pretty clear case, but then like, he also did it like america has to do it faster to do it in a time when something will be done about it because like if and when like there's a

political changeover like the same thing with when bar got muller's report he's like and none of that matters and it was like not that big a deal it's like yeah there's all this evidence right here of obstruction and all this collusion all stuff like that but i'm not doing anything about it so like that's why you like not just have to be methodical and make sure it sticks but like do it when there can be something done about it right because otherwise they're just going to sweep it under the rug like this is the only you bring this case or there's just going to be no more legitimate cases indefinitely like you know right make it count but do it fast and a lot of people say like don't worry like you know you and i get it i know fuck all about how a federal prosecution works outside of what i read so like i'm not going to be here and say like well based on this and

nothing's going to happen because some people seem to be heartened by the fact that the, you know, it's clear that the scope of the investigation is widening to not just like being like the people who entered the building, but to be like, okay, who are the money people who was actually dedicating time and money to like

the infrastructure to get people, physical bodies there. What does that whole web of people look like? And also like this whole campaign to get a new slate of electors to try and overturn the election results but i i don't know i mean i'm after like the robert muller thing i'm just like i don't know are people just gonna start making merch until the inevitable like faltering of this investigation and they're like it's like what do you even do with garland like there's nothing like at least muller was

like miller time he had it's muller time can we even do anything like actually witty with merrick garland merrick or mary mary garland's like the yes definitely christmas so he better release it on like after it'll probably be between when the Democrats lose power and before the Republicans actually take over between November and January. That's when it's going to drop. Yikes. You know how Republicans love to stop. Well, we can't count it until this new new group is in. Yeah.

At this point, the Democrats are like, man, we're not going to fucking forgive student loan debt. It's like, can you just like arrest these people by election day day that would help a lot or at least expose them by then so we don't have people don't pay attention to our terrible shortcomings as a party is what i'm sure a lot of democratic leadership is worried about too yeah so yeah it is what it is zai kang let us know if you have any good merrick Garland merch ideas. I'm really... Or is that more indicative of how even the cynicism is for Libs? Is there even like... Dude, can't even get excited for a Merrick Garland merch idea.

Because even Libs are like... We've already lost at that point. If we're relying on the merch sales. That's our metric. I'm're yeah relying on the merch sales that's our metric i'm like based on these merch sales there used to be like a correlation with like the how bad a comedian was versus how long their merch pitch was just like it's like and here's here's this t-shirt from the the fourth joke you heard and then here's these koozies I'm selling. And then, uh, whatever. But anyway, buy my album,

buy a midnight oil jokes, dot farm Bible, dot recipes. Any good, any good merch. I mean, so the, um,

no one buys CDs anymore. Like, and I only want to sell like album related stuff at after shows. So instead of CDs and download codes, I'm going to put the sticker, which is prayer candle aesthetics onto an actual prayer candle. Oh, nice. And then give out download codes with it. So you can buy the album, but also be able to burn the midnight oil.

Oh, wow. Come on. Come on, Zyke gang. He's done it. Burn some midnight oil at Jokes.Farm. There you go. Jokes.Farm, y'arm there you go jokes.farm y'all garland.sucks y'all check it out uh okay let's also check in just with with uh donald trump's truth social which which is well and truly now i think we can we can finally lay it in the ground

and set it on fire at least from the perspective of what a usable app is. Now, I don't know if Trump will still carry like hold on to this fantasy that it will be a Twitter revenge killer. But, you know, this was this was like his big thing since the tech companies basically banished him for, you know, all his seditious behavior. They were like, yeah, yeah, yeah. This isn't really for you. This isn't for you. So this was like his idea of being like, well, I've got something else coming. It's called truth social. And you can put your truth out there and retruth someone else's truth and like my truths.

Cool. Great marketing. And you know what? The enthusiastic reception from his minions for a second, I was like, oh, maybe, maybe this will be the one because it wasn't the nine other ones that came before this maybe this one because it's trump this will work and we talked about again the rollout disastrous most people like hundreds of thousands if not millions of people on wait lists you could only get it through the apple store there was just it was

and even if you were able to get onto the app it was buggy as shit and so this has basically recently sent trump into a fury since now a lot of people like it's now news that how bad this shit is to the point where in this daily beast article they said that someone brought up truth social like just as a like as a topic to just address at this meeting and it wasn't even like, oh, it sucks. Like the words were uttered and apparently Trump immediately pivoted to just talking about Hunter Biden's laptop. That's how bad he didn't want to talk

about his failure of Truth Social. So let's just look at some numbers. Let's look at some data points here. Yeah, you know I love data. Apptopia, who is the people who like really look at all the usage of apps and things like that, or they have a lot of analytics. They said that at its peak, Yeah, you know, I love data. yikes the app is now just the 355th most popular app overall that's i think also pretty bad and i think the big thing too is like if you have an app that's supposed to be a social media platform and you have users that you need to draw in then you probably want to look at your active user

numbers so they are right around 513 000 active users as of last week. Yeah, that's pretty good, right? Oh, wait, how many is Twitter? Oh, wait, Twitter has 217 million. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Damn. But I guess, I wonder if maybe that's an Apple iOS bias.

Like once Android comes in, they're like, wait till Android comes in. And this will be 50 million off rip uh but yeah it's just it it's again terrible terrible nosedive for the company they were going to try and take it like public and that like all of those dreams are going down the drain because like the company that they were going to team up with that stock price like first went up and then once they heard like they saw the app it just with, that stock price, like, first went up, and then once they heard, like, they saw the app, it just went, so that dream is fizzling away. And the big thing that I think is really interesting about these apps, right,

is that, like, once you even get on, and it's clearly just, like, this racist-filled circus, like, that you're just like, what is going on? You encounter a lot of the rights most hated concept, censorship. Roger Stone got censored somehow last weekend on the app because he like their algorithm that's like meant to like moderate just like swept up the word salad was like this is content warning and a lot of people have been getting like bans or suspensions or content warnings which is really odd because that was like the whole reason for them leaving twitter was just

like i don't want to be censored type shit but yet here they are like finding themselves in a you know illiterate shit posting thunderdome and but also the company with so few people enrolled to use your product you shouldn't be censoring anyone you should just be like yeah be as flagrant as you want to be like just please stay on the app like five chance be six chance to the name right go nuts they're really and you know it's it's a hard this is always the problem right because this this was what was going on in the early days of all the other apps is people get bored because people who don't think like them aren't on it they're in an echo chamber and their whole fun their whole like fucking identity is based on transgressing

acceptable norms for discourse yeah that's their whole that's their life's blood so when they can't transgress and they're in like this place where it's just everybody agreeing with each other the juice is gone baby that's not fun they want to make some lady who has like a new york times tattoo cry into her npr shopping bag and that's like the fucking juice for them yeah but because they don't have it i don't appreciate it as if you've been in my closet what are you doing first of all more so it's like well we all know you got that new york times tattoo just a throat tat so proud of it it's right on my paper of record but like you know that's like the thing that's really i think they're not quite aware of as a as a people's the conservatives is that they don't realize that their whole thing is derived off of just being

in complete opposition to something it's not because they actually have their own worldview it's just like well i'm just here to disagree with these other people who i perceive as maybe being happier than me or just different so i'm angry well any algorithm has been set for a long time to like already reverberate the things that you're thinking and putting out there right so like they don't really have to worry too much about you know your sense of community is there on twitter already they don't need a second place to go right yeah now they're they're uh it's not so much not so fun when there's no libs to own right you know it's it's like they're you know that old alexander the great was like alex Alexander wept because there were no more worlds to conquer.

It's like and and Jared Kushner wept because there were no more lives to own. Right. Exactly. And it's like they realize it's in Trump. I feel like knew probably all along that it wasn't going to work because he did. He never posted on it. Right. That's the thing is that posted like once. that it wasn't going to work because he did he never posted on it right that's my thing he's posted like once if he turned it into like just the the trump if he named it trump social and it was just his new version of twitter where people could go and see what he would be tweeting i'm

sure he'd probably do a lot better but he probably didn't have any confidence in it no he in this article they said he wasn't using it because he wanted it to be a hit first he doesn't want to get caught trying that He doesn't know how to be a leader? What? I don't know how to start things. That's so funny. The story about how he named Don Jr. and he was apparently opposed to it.

He was like, what if he's a loser? I don't want him to have my name. The bar is pretty low, fam. Come on. At least he's out there with his use of stimulants not being a secret uppers user allegedly like the president was but yeah like it really is their whole it's the same thing you see too when like the republicans are in power like they just

don't know what to do with all of it because their whole thing is just kind of like it's all about self-victimization and being like oh look they don't like this now they don't like that now and it's it's sort of that same sort of sense of being lost i mean clearly they have an agenda that they're they're like evangelicals and titans of industry set them to dc with but you know it's kind of like this vibe with them always starting their new places like safe spaces because like the popular ones don't starting their new places like safe spaces because like the popular ones don't have them it's like people who get like thrown out of a bar and then like they're like yeah well you know what me and all the other fucking jerks who get thrown out of this

nice bar are gonna start our own fucking bar and it's gonna be fucking better than this place because we're not gonna do shit like take care of the bar or make sure the glasses are clean and you can drink out of them or that the liquor we serve is even actual liquor and not fucking window cleaner uh in a belvedere bottle that's what we're gonna do and then they get to their little fucked up bar and they're like yo this place fucking sucks man it's almost like you need these things in place to make sure it's a place worth going to in the first place. Otherwise it's just your fucking,

you know, tantrum sandbox. And it's yeah. Yeah. They don't know how things work. They know how things won't work. Like they'll, they're very skilled at like knowing how to up subvert democracy,

like how to replace the election officials at every like level so that no one gets democratically elected but like once they're elected they're like uh just kind of want i was yeah i was here for the fucking shit up part yeah yeah i was i was brought in to destroy the other bar not create my own oh yeah i don't know how to build anything yeah i just know how to knock shit over and like break stuff yeah i can't build anything worth a fuck oh yeah because it speaks to my deeper sense of being impotent or powerless because i don't have the imagination or wherewithal to build i have to destroy okay um let's take a quick break and we'll come back and let's check in with the Grammys. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,

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Stallion Halsey wore super dope hat right oh Lady Gaga helped SZA with her dress why was this a wearing a tight dress and on on a nine-foot train and crutches upstairs? How she didn't have an accident? Hand to God, that was a miracle. We witnessed a miracle last night because any normal person would have fallen down and busted their neck. And the other thing is Anderson.Paak was cosplaying as

the witch R&B star with that wig. I think it was one of the That didn't even come up in my text group. It was like a bowl cut straight hey it's like an iconic r&b person's 70s haircut he kind of looks like uh fucking who was tina turner married to ike yeah yeah yeah but that's not him trying to be ike turner right i don't it's caught he's definitely cosplaying as somebody, which I think is getting a little messy. Bruno Mars was smoking a cigarette while accepting the award.

I was like, that can't be allowed in that theater. Listen, as we said last week, we don't really trust the Grammys. Or yesterday. Yesterday. Yesterday, we were like, you can't really trust the Grammys. They don't know who to give awards to. It's really about money slash connections it's a messy award show and that's saying something this year in a year of incredibly messy award shows yeah yeah i i didn't i didn't catch the anderson pack thing the other thing i saw was uh the two things that first cropped up on my text

threads people have been like are y'all watching? And I was like, no. And then someone's like, President Zelensky is talking. Oh, that happened too. And I was like, what? And so I watched it. It's just so, it was like a very, very surreal moment where you have a president of a country who's in the middle of a war trying to fight back a Russian invasion. who's in the middle of a war trying to fight back a Russian invasion,

where he's being like, I hope the people of Ukraine know the freedom of those of you on the Grammy stage. And this guy is up there just trying to get more people's attention on the atrocities happening in Ukraine, especially like now we're seeing this news of like the executions of civilians and and more and more like credible allegations of like assault against citizens from like the russian soldiers and things like that that there's like real dark real shit going on and then for that to happen in like a room full of people who are like least likely to be plugged into geopolitical events it was just like it felt like he had become a meme in that weird way. You know what I mean? It's like,

well, you got to do some woke and have president Zelinsky give a quick shout out before lady Gaga does some smooth jazz singing. It was like the Steve, Steve Buscemi is like, hello, fellow kids. Yeah.

It just felt odd. Like, you know, it's like, it's a very weird emotional juxtaposition of like things right because like on one hand people are celebrating their achievements as musicians as artists and then this guy comes on is like yeah man the world's really fucked up just so you know like he said something to the effect of the musicians in ukraine now don't wear tuxedos they

now wear they wear fatigues and they now serenade the injured soldiers and like you know really powerful yeah like about a minute and a half speech he gave and then just right back into the pageantry it just felt yeah i say totally it definitely feels off but there's also something about how i don't know how many people watch the grammys now but this like i know a lot of people are avoiding the news just as a self-preservation tactic, which I understand needing to take that on small doses, but I also feel like this is perhaps something that we should definitely not be ignoring. And so I understand wanting to give that space, but I do think there's probably a better way to bring that in and come back out to our very gaudy paid-for awards ceremony. Right. I don't know how to do that.

And also maybe launch the show with that. Bit of a downer. Right, yeah. But also, before we get into anything tonight, we want to just want to... Eat your vegetables first. Right, right, right. Exactly, exactly. Yeah.

Then have just all the dessert you want. Like honoring Louis C.K.'s comedy album. Oh, yikes. And we talked about this when the, okay, I remember when the nominations came out, everyone was like, cancel culture who? Truly. I want to hear about it ever again. Over here getting nominated and winning. Okay.

And then Kanye and Marilyn Manson, Kanye marilyn manson win a grammy for their track jail like you're like hold on y'all should be in jail i mean i don't look i don't wish jail on anybody but you know what i'm saying here y'all should be banished from the good places where people go is what i mean to say he was in that's the thing he was banished to ukraine during wartime remember that where like louis ck was supposed to be performing at in kiev like the night of the invasion oh really you remember that yeah like the show like it was one of those things where it's like he was supposed to perform there and they didn't say it was canceled and so like people thought he was like giving a like a big concert hall performance of comedy as bombs were falling but i think

apparently like it wasn't true it was like like yeah of course i was out of there what are you talking about that'd be funny if like zolinski plugged was like my boy louis he visited me during wartime you should all check it out oh this is all getting fucked up don't don't do all that but yeah i mean i think is a just kind of a surreal moment and then you see all of like that weird emphasis like the Will Smith Chris Rock discourse is continuing still with people being like it's not enough you gotta slap anybody who talks about it like that's a new rule it's good why would you bring this up here and now stop it's over I'm also like where's where's your energy for the Grammys

everybody you know yeah where's seriously where is where is all the energy for the okay but i'm that's why you you see people exposing themselves with what they're giving their energy to that's like netflix deciding to put his movie on hold but getting dave chappelle more like wild one demographic that could benefit from select moral clarity is like the youth you know it Teachers are like, hey, there are consequences for your action, but not really. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's a surreal moment.

But I did see Olivia Rodrigo dropped one of her Grammys and broke it. That's always enjoyable. Yeah. Relatable. Yeah. She's going to get a new one. But I just like the idea of, oh shit! With so many musicians

in that crowd, someone should be able to re-put together the Curb theme song. Just like... Just on kazoos. See? That's what we need. See, that would have been sick. All those musicians, everyone has kazoos you just do these like rousing like 10 000 person renditions of songs and shit

i see jono we're we're already producing a better show for next year oh man and then lastly i just want to touch on this article i was reading in the takeout that their writer angela pagan was just pointing out that the article is called keep these items off your refrigerator door what the fuck hold on like is this a real thing now i do want to say before we talk about this this isn't to say like you'll die if you keep certain food items on your refrigerator door but it's more so i was educated on what the refrigerator door kind of is right so right now i don't know what i guess let me go around what is every what do people what do y'all have on your refrigerator door okay what items butter

sauces any kind of like drink you know lots of cans and or bottled drinks sometimes you know if a carton of you know the milk might fit in there parents used to have a fridge that had a gallon milk holder on the side of it which i was like brilliant wait what do you mean crazy wait what's a gallon milk holder so like the door was structured in such a way that it could hold a gallon of milk in this like square pop out thing yeah yeah yeah yeah okay those things okay sauces uh some some butter some egg stuff what about you jonah what's on your fridge real quick to clarify when you said it was on the door i thought you meant like this the magnets on the front outside of it just saying like your fridge doesn't have the right mindset hang in there baby no get something. Get something like Destroy Today, okay?

Right, right. Start your coffee. Throw this creamer in your coffee and get going, bish. It's like your nephew's baby picture isn't cute enough. Your milk's going to go bad. That goes to the side at best. All my condiments are side at best. All my condiments are on the door. All my condiments

and a bunch of drinks like LaCroix and what have you. All my hot sauces are there. My salad, my condiment, my Japanese cooking sauces that I use to turn up my dishes and things, that all goes on the door. Butter. But here's this very interesting

thing that they were saying that actually things like milk and eggs should not be on the refrigerator door and i'm not saying should not be because you will die because shout out to all of us who have been doing this and i'm fine but the refrigerator door is actually the place that offers the least consistent like cooling that's fair so like the second you open open it, it's getting all of the warm air just washing over it. While everything that's on the shelves on the proper interior of the refrigerator,

that's where your milk should go. That's where your eggs should go. Okay? That's what you need to put that stuff in there. One thing I didn't... Then this is an interesting debate, and I bring this up. They point to another article that was all about things that can or can't don't have to be refrigerated ketchup and

mustard are y'all do y'all put your ketchup and mustard in the refrigerator or do you live like you see it at the restaurant where that shit is never refrigerator mustards I tend to freeze barbecue sauces, ketchups. Wait, freeze? Not freeze, sorry. I put them in the refrigerator. I like my mustard sliced and to like Oh my god. Could you imagine?

Just shaving. Oh, like on a microplane? Yeah. Just some dust of fucking mustard. Oh my gosh. No, I put it in the fridge and then like barbecue sauces and ketchup and stuff

is usually in a cabinet. Jono, you refrigerate your ketchup, mustard or do you? Yeah. I mean, because we also like use it. I think with restaurants

they use like one over like the course of three days. Like I'm using a thing of mustard and ketchup over the course of a year and a half. Right, right, right right well but you know what they were saying you can still let

that shit cook on the shelf really okay i mean it's not a good uh um indicator about what's in ketchup and mustard that it's able to sit at room temperature all preservatives that's all it's but it's perfect doesn't go bad. But part of me, I kind of like cold ketchup sometimes. There's something about cold. I'm weird. See? I'm from Chicago.

I don't even touch ketchup. I'm just not familiar with her. But the idea of cold tomato paste. It's cold sweet goo. It doesn't taste like tomatoes. Come on now. It it says red sugar goo that we put on all of our food wait you don't use ketchup

I mean I know it's absolute criminal to have ketchup on a hot dog obviously and I know that's where that sort of hostility towards ketchup emanates from in the great state of Illinois but is but you're saying because of that that's generally just put you off to ketchup across the board?

I want ketchup on anything. Like I'm not a ketchup on a fries, ketchup anywhere. I've never bought a bottle of ketchup. Wow. Justin, Engineer Justin, also from Illinois said ketchup is for children. Yes. And you know what? Well, then call me forever young, Justin.

That's my secret because I'm regularly spiking my sugar levels by downing cold ketchup. Ketchup is for children, but like spiced ketchup is for adults. I have that sriracha ketchup or like those other like spicier ones that add a twist to it. I like a sriracha. Yeah. add a twist to it. Okay. I like a sriracha. Yeah. Yeah. She and I are friends.

Wow. And then Justin, I'm guessing you don't use ketchup either at all. Okay. That's fine. I don't. We're barbecue people. Yeah.

Sauce. Yeah. Oh, so you'll, okay. So wait, you'll swap out barbecue for ketchup context items. Like, Oh yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Barbecue sauce on fries. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Good. Okay. That's fine. I don sauce on fries. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. Cool. Good. Okay. That's fine. Is this the difference of brown sugar?

Now I'm thinking like what goes into ketchup versus barbecue sauce. Get a little molasses. Depends on how you make it. You know? Okay, yeah. It's easier. Yeah, look, fine. I can handle that.

I can handle that. I mean, not even to say I was even like, you don't use ketchup at all, but shout out to people who are just built like that. You yeah yeah unlike me i picked up a horrible habit from this kid i went to school with who would eat every bite like when we would go to like mcdonald's or wherever in and out every bite was at least two packets of ketchup ew inundating the burger with ketchup every bite was just like two packets per bite and you know we would get high so like i also was like man this person's leading me down the wrong path i'm like good as fuck and i and it took like like years later someone i was dating to be like you have

to stop eating a burger like that in front of me and this wasn't even her majesty who i'm married to now this is someone else who was looking out for me shout out to you who was just like that in front of me and this wasn't even her majesty who i'm married to now this is someone else who was looking out for me shout out to you who was just like that's not a good look for you and i was like okay you're right i don't look like a child yeah you look like someone who grew up without like where ketchup was completely banished from your home and you fetishized it as a result and i'm like okay that's enough your dad what left when he went to go get out some ketchup And never came back Oh no And that's why, okay That's why I'm like this, Alexis You see that?

Now please leave me alone Alright, well, that's a little bit of truth For everybody. Jono, thank you so much For stopping by today Always a pleasure having you, man Where can people find you and follow you and where can they see you? And what's a tweet that you like? You can follow me

on app Jono's LA on everything. Basically, I'm on TikTok now. I got a new been posting videos from my albums. Therapy is getting some traction on there. The kids connecting with the youth. You can get my album at Bible that recipes. You can catch me.

I have a monthly show where I'm actually doing my album release show on April 11th in Los Angeles. If you live in the area, it's the Blind Barber Secret Show in Highland Park. Go to barbersecretshow.com for that. And, or, you know,

as I said, Bibles.recipes and a tweet I really liked. It was in the, in the, I know it's too bad to talk about it now, but when it actually happened about Will Smith slap, my friend, Andrew Slater,

who also has an album coming out soon. You check that out is if comedians got slapped every time they made an old movie reference, the 90% of the people I follow on here wouldn't have teeth. Yeah, that's me too. That's all I know. I only know old movies. We only know movies.

That's fine. That's all I know. That's all I know. Oh, shit. Joel. Hey. Thanks for being here. Thanks for hanging out.

Hey, you know, I'm starting to make my way through the Marvel movies and movies in general. I'm catching. I just saw Dune over the weekend. Oh, my gosh. That's just. Oh, my gosh. Man, sound design fucked me up. And it won the award.

So, you know, it was good. Dude, I'm sorry. I'm nine months late to this conversation. But that one, the Kingsguard people, those mercenary people. And like they had that like one dude be like. That shit. I was so high i've got like child freaked out like i hadn't felt more scared of a scene like the last time i was scared like that by a movie i was like six years old so oh my god have you seen the batman yet about to that's next okay get real fucking high for that and enjoy yeah and i haven't started I saw two Spider-Mans.

I'm trying to put that work in right now. Miles, almost ready for the big time. I can't wait. You have to have all these breakdown conversations. I know. I feel like while you're here, I should just crank them out. So I can be like, yo, what happened in that movie? We have a conversation.

We have a conversation at the end of this week. I'm ready. Our new podcast called three years late joelle thanks again so much for being out here again where can people find you follow you what's a tweet that you like um i'm joelle monique you can follow me all over the internet at joelle monique that's j-o-e-l-l-e-m-o-n-i-q-u-e because of jono's um you know bible.recipes i was trying to find the site and i stumbled upon something called justapinch.com which has something called a scripture cake my favorite thing about this recipe is that all of the items are listed as bible verses so you

have to go read the bible verse to figure out what the item is to put in your scripture cake amazing the dedication the the opportunity to learn while you're making something it's just truly truly brilliant and inventive so if you're interested you can go find that at just a pinch.com uh two tweets are like reductor said wow this woman asked her co-worker to cover her shift without sending a six paragraph essay explaining why and how she can make it up to them a beautiful and succinct tweet uh that all women will understand it is so hard to ask for a favor and then mary wilson at the mary wilson tweeted i forgot i said something and my child turned to me and said my hippocampus wasn't big enough so

that's enough school for him and the way children will just blame you it's so brutal oh shit The way children will just blame you is so brutal. Oh, shit. Neuroscience. That's great. Some tweets I like. First one is from Zach McKee. Zach tweeted, there's a difference between being happy and being distracted from sadness.

Very, very good point. Shut up. Don't hit me with that. I'm not prepared mentally for that. Hey, but you know what? When you realize that shit, you have to be so honest with yourself. And that's the hard part is because typically we distract ourselves from being sad because the other part is like really trying to honor whatever our actual needs are. And that shit can be jarring for a number of reasons. So I don't know.

I felt that in my spirit. And then another one from Megan Gailey. I'm Megan Gailey. Just tweeted because I felt this one because our teams are not in contention anymore in the playoffs not that the lakers really gonna do anything but tweeted with the pacers out of the playoffs i will be dedicating myself to jaw and the grizzlies so jaw rastafari i see i think i look it's gonna be them or the bulls that's why i'm that's why come on you gotta root for my bulls until they're out. Hey, you know what? I probably should because my family's from Chicago. And shout out to Bald Mamba, you know, Caruso.

My king is just out here really hustling, working every day. Yeah. Yeah, that's one of those things where it's like, you want to feel old? The bulls have been longtime underdogs. Right. I know. Like, when I'm like a parent, I'm like, you know,

the Bulls actually used to be, when I was a boy, the strongest team in the land. They're like, oh my God. Shut up about the Bulls already. Anyway, so you can find those things there. You can find me at milesofgray on Twitter and Instagram.

Also check out the basketball podcast, Miles and Jack have Mad Boosties, or got Mad Boosties. Sorry, let me use the proper title there. Wherever you get your podcasts, and also 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. You can find us at Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter, The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram.

We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes! Thank you. Where you can check out all the articles we talk about as well as the songs we write out on and you know what i just want to go out on some billy cobham billy cobham is you know one of the great fusion jazz drummers and i would kind of just i first got into it because i was just like really into people

just shredding on drums and then but then fusion has like this weird uh calming feeling and that's what i think we need on this tuesday some calming music and this track is called siesta slash wake up slash that's what i said uh by billy cobham just a nice jazz fusion track real calm real easy again more background music you don't need to don, don't turn up too hard yet. It's still early in the week. Alright, we'll talk to you later to catch you on the trending episode. Until then, we'll see you later.

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