The Daily Zeitgeist - Dolittle Do Late, Money Over Everything 10.16.19

Episode Date: October 16, 2019

In episode 496, Jack and Miles are joined Couples Therapy co-host Andy Beckerman to discuss Lebron James' comments about Houston Rockets GM and China, John Bolton firing off, foreign policies worst nightmares coming true, Taco Bell recalling bad meat, Airline food getting an upgrade, the new film Dolittle, Coca Cola Tic Tacs, and more!FOOTNOTES: LeBron James Calls Houston Rockets GM ‘Misinformed’ Over Tweet That Could Cost NBA Billions of Dollars—and Twitter Reacts Trump Suspects a Spiteful John Bolton Is Behind Some of the Ukraine Leaks John Bolton’s eruption shows that Trump’s defenses are collapsing Fiona Hill Is Here To F*ck Sh*t Up! And She's Bringing ... John Bolton? Taco Bell Recalls Beef in 21 States Umami-Driven Farm-to-Plane Food Has Arrived on Singapore Airlines WATCH: Dolittle Trailer #1 (2020) | Movieclips Trailers Trailer: ‘Dolittle’ Could Be The Next ‘John Carter,’ But Universal Will Be Fine If ‘Fast And Furious 9’ And ‘Minions 2’ Are Big Hits So someone that worked on the new Dr Dolittle movie is posting about it on reddit aaaaaaaaaaaaand..... An Encounter of Two Icons: Tic Tac® Meets Coca-Cola® WATCH: Vesce - Zender Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 104, Episode 3 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you stream podcasts. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 104, Episode 3 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and a deep sip of America's shared consciousness and say officially, off the top, fuck Coke Industries, as in the Coke Brothers, and fuck Fox News. It's Wednesday, Octoberober 16th 2019 my name is jack o'brien aka allow me to reintroduce myself my name is oh oh jack to the ob i used to drink

mountain dew by the ozi even back at cracked you could call me ceo the TDZO. Yeah. Courtesy of Freddie Bidet. Wow. At Flush Culture. Kendall Roy here. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, a.k.a. Slick Der Wooten, a.k.a. Bong Paul Jones, a.k.a. Jocko Pasto Blunt Storius, a.k.a. Getty E.D., a.k.a. Budsy Collins, a.k.a. John Blow the Entwistle, a.k.a. Not So Hairy Graham. Oh, and those are fantastic bass players.

Actually, some of my favorite bass players. Getty Lee, love them. Bootsy Collins, love them. John Entwistle, great. John Paul Jones, fucking Larry Graham. John Paul Jones was the Graham I thought John Paul Jones was the name of that dude from the

The Bachelor no he is the bass player from Led Zeppelin my bad and Victor Wooten also very talented bass players

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well we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious and talented host of the amazing podcast Couples Therapy and Live Show. Critically acclaimed. He is Mr. Andy Beckerman. Hello, everyone. Hey, Andy.

Hey, can we read Mulligan? Can we do that again? I started off high. Nope. What did you think? Inigan? Can we do that again? I started off high. Nope. What did you think? In your mind, what were you doing? I was about to do a voice, and then my brain was like, no, don't. That's not a good way to start off a podcast.

We will redo this if you come in fully committed to the voice you wanted to do. There was no, oh, it was all improv. It was wherever, how do you change your, wherever my gullet landed? Wherever my- Uvula or whatever. Yeah, yeah. That's where it was whatever uh wherever uh how do you change your wherever my gullet landed wherever my uvula yeah yeah yeah that's where it was gonna go but uh high voice no not uh yeah well look not a great start it's all about everyone we're thrilled to have you great that's what's important andy we're thrilled with the start how many episodes is this later from my last appearance uh probably five billion who knows i don't even know how many millions. Five billion miles.

How many MEPisodes have we ever done? Don't be a fibber, man. You've done zero MEPisodes. Yeah, MEPisodes. We've done a few Muppisodes, though. Right. We had to can those. That would be great if you guys did.

We just had Muppets in studio, but didn't take video of it. It was just for our own purposes. Can I pitch you something? Yeah. You guys get Jim Henson Studios on board, and they do puppet versions of you. And every day they do a puppet version.

They just take your audio and do a puppet version. I'd love that. We tried to work with them, but they wouldn't adhere to our strict drug policy. Yeah. They would not. That and they were like, honey, you don't have Muppet money. That's right.

Right, right, right. Whoa, okay. Whoa. Shots fired. What was the drug policy that they had to take lexapro exactly we just needed a little bit of uh even keel no they i i feel like everybody who works there probably still does drugs maybe not pot on the lot smokes dope you know that lot is very interesting yeah very whimsical. And you can feel that a lot used to go on there.

Over on La Brea? Yeah, yeah, yeah. At the Henson Studios. Did you guys remember that there was like a AOL sent mail sound effect at the beginning of Public Service announcement from the Black Album? What? There's like a... Like the sound of a plane taking off.

Anyways. Which blackout? Are you sure? That's what it sounds like to me. I don't know. Maybe not. Anyways, glad I stopped everything to... Stop the presses for that one.

Stop the presses. Andy, we're going to get to know you a bit better. That sounds like an elderly person's hallucination. Was that an AOL scent sound at the top of that tone? Why does the world smell like you've got mail? Yes. Okay, sorry. We're going to tell the listeners what we're talking about today.

That's what we're going to do. Yeah, let's do that. And then we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. LeBron, we take all of our geopolitical cues from him and therefore we are announcing uh that we are part of we stand with china today thank you lebron for the cue yes uh no just the wackest of whack statements from lebron uh we're going to ask why ask what he thought he was saying. Yeah. We are going to check in with the whistleblower scandal. We are going to look at our new American international policy, international relations, foreign policy.

I think that's what it's called. Crumbling. And who's a fan? Who's a fan? Who likes late stage imperial collapse? Who's a fan? Who's a fan? Who likes late stage imperial collapse?

We're going to talk about who Moody's is picking in the upcoming 2020 election. We're going to talk about Facebook being a right wing company who ruined the internet. And reality. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, of course. Taco Bell has recalled tainted beef. Oh, God. We just have to give. It's our responsibility for the course. Taco Bell has recalled tainted beef. Oh, God.

We just have to give... It's our responsibility for the amount of Taco Bell we talk about. We got to let you know if your meat could be at risk. Find out what kind of shavings they found in the beef. I feel like tainted beef is like a sea level... Punk band? Oh, no. I was going to go with like uh fish one of those yeah oh i feel like it's too dark like the idea of tainted beef it's like upton sinclair the jungle

feels gritty tainted with vibes man yeah oh wow it just feels like you would see you would see them on a on a bill with with fish yeah i was fish tainted beef is desperately racking my brain for any jam band i could think of and that's the only one that's still in my brain massive attack were they uh no no no that's just who banks is part of massive attack oh okay uh we're gonna talk about all sorts of shit but first andy we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are yeah okay so toby So, Toby Huss is someone I looked up. Oh, hell yeah.

The guy who used to do the Sinatra impression on MTV. Sinatra, he was already the strongest man in the world on Pete and Pete. Yeah. Most recent, not most recently, but more recently, he has taken a turn into dramatic acting, and he is incredible. Really?

Yeah, Halt and Catch Fire. Oh, shit. Unreal. That was one of my favorite shows the last couple years. into dramatic acting and he is incredible really uh yeah halt and catch fire oh shit uh unreal that was one of my favorite shows the last couple years and uh he just did a little turn on glow season three and so i looked him up to see if i could find content information for him yeah he is so i remember like i think i that was my first interaction with seeing him do those weird mtv things where he was like whoa you got method man like doing some weird scat sinatra thing and then in his just uh classic uh portrayal i forget of who but in uh the movie down periscope i think he was on an episode of seinfeld as uh what's your faces uh boyfriend do you say ellen ellen i mean elaine elaine dude i've got too much degenerates on their brain i was about to say What's your face's boyfriend? Do you say Ellen? Ellen? I mean, Elaine. Elaine.

Dude, I've got too much DeGeneres on the brain. I was about to say- We're also recording this late. I was about to say Ellen DeBeneres, I think, in my mind, because it was so- Elaine Benes. Yeah. Wow. Yes.

Ellen DeBeneres. But that was a great Mepisode. Yeah, Mepisode. That was a great Mepisode. Classic. Yeah. So, Toby Huss. I love seeing a lot of- One of the best character actors. I mean, it's so weird to divide actors up. Yeah. So Toby Huss. I love seeing

one of the best character actors. I mean, it's so weird to like divide actors up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, but I guess in one bucket

you got your Brad Pitts and Angelina Jolie. Right. Guys, I'm going to and you get your character actors in your other bucket. I'm going to re-engage in this conversation

and stop trying to look up what band I was trying to think of when I said Massive Attack. Who were you thinking? I don't fucking know, man. They had to change their name, I think, because they overlapped with someone. They were really popular in the early 2000s.

The string cheese incident? No. I'm sure people are screaming at their iPods just like yesterday when I couldn't remember Slush Puppy. My brain is trying to scream it into my conscious mind. Also, where are my Soundtribe Sector 9 fans at? Andy, what is something you think is overrated? Great question.

Jonathan Hickman's new start on X-Men. Jonathan Hickman's new start on X-Men. Yes. Tell us what the fuck that even means. I think Jonathan Hickman's fantastic, a great writer, and I'm excited to see where it's going. But so far, there's been some troubling things in the X-Men world. What's been going on in the X-Men world?

It just feels a little off. And I know because I trust Jonathan Hickman that it will pay off at some point in the future. Oh, you're saying right now, based on his writing, there's trouble. He wrote, he's written two new miniseries to relaunch kind of the X-Men world. Right. And they have their own country now. The X-Men have their own country? Yes.

And they're dealing with like all mutants have their own country. It's kind of like an Israel analog. Oh, really? Minus the Palestine part. Right. Right. Everyone wants to do like their own little like this group gets their own country thing. But let's not deal with the real world baggage.

Where is the country? It's called Krakoa. Okay. Or Krakoa. I don't know how to pronounce it because it's written. It's a comic book, so yeah. Yeah. That's the best thing about comic books.

In your mind, it's whatever is right. It is a mutant island of its own. The island itself is a mutant. Oh, okay. Don't. Yeah, that. No. Get the fuck out of here oh i love

explaining this to you guys wait that's for real yeah the fucking mass in which they live upon was a mutant yeah that sucks i'm already on board with this being overrated this is where i got angry with it because i'm like um it's not it's just like a prologue basically it's not even really a story so far it's kind of just like here's an island now they're part of the un blah blah blah right uh they okay so some of the main x-men are killed in one of the uh issues i almost said an episode uh wolverine cyclops what uh gene great just no nightcrawler just killed outright uh and then the next and you're like well it's a comic book they're not going to actually be killed outright uh and then the next and you're like well it's a comic book they're not going to actually be killed but uh the way that they're brought back in the next

issue is that there are cloning pods okay and uh there is the so their bodies are cloned uh basically i won't go into the like the minutiae of it uh and then there is a uh apparently a backup of their minds that is then put into the clone body yeah now if you destroy like time machine on mac os yes exactly that's the analog now if you destroy my computer yeah uh and you get a new computer and you back it up you've just created a different version you didn't actually recreate recreate my computer now there's i this is these are comic books i will accept a million different ways you can bring someone back to life i will accept god i will accept like souls in heaven i will accept uh some kind of resurrection magic i will there's so many different things but this specific thing

which is you can't abide they kill they just killed off a bunch of characters and then brought clones, like actual clones. I will even accept like somehow I grabbed their mind from out of the ether. I'll accept that kind of thing. But saying, no, we got a backup of their mind is not that person. And that's where I got off the train. Right. And I know that that will probably pay off in some way that is that uh is acceptable down the line but and but this is the thing this is why i said it's overrated because i everyone is fucking crowing about it

right they're like they think it's like really cool and challenging what he's doing yes and i'm like look okay yes so i did i do have an advanced degree in philosophy and so i will quibble about uh questions of identity but also these you just killed wolverine and he's just dead yeah you now have like you made a clone of him right generic it's like the venture brothers you guys watch the venture brothers i don't uh basically the venture brothers have been killed i think 13 or 14 times and the ones you're watching uh are clones and the ones that you fought that that were in season, they die at the end of season one. So from season two on, you're just watching clones that were backed up.

And their brains were backed up? Yeah. On what sort of drive? Ah, you accepted an Adventure Brothers. No, I didn't. Because it was on an iOmega zip drive. By the time they find out that they're clones, that becomes this huge existential problem for the Venture Brothers in season four or five.

I just rewatched all of the seasons. Do you think, as a philosophy major, fellow philosophy major, do you think that, except you were actually a philosophy professor, so you're a little bit more serious about it than me, do you think we will ever be able to save our consciousness into anything in a meaningful way?

No, well, maybe, I mean, I don't know about technology. You could do it, but it won't be you. You have to have continuity of consciousness, right? If you wanna exist, your brain has to somehow, or your consciousness. Right, it'll just be some copy of you. Right, or it's just a copy of you, and then it's not you. And I know Jonathan, look, here's the thing. I trust jonathan hickman i think he's a great writer and i think it will it will somehow

he will call attention to this in some way or there but i'm racking my brain how will this be undone just have faith so far wolverine and nycro nycro are my favorite character disintegrated in the sun. Oh, yeah. Look, man, you just got to walk with God, man, and he will reward you. What is something you think is underrated? Class warfare. All right. Where are the class traitors at?

Yeah, what's that? I said, where are the class traitors at? Where are the bespoke guillotine companies? Where are, why are we not killing more rich people and redistributing their money to the working class? That's my question. Oh man, that's the age old question in this country. Yeah. I mean, I'm personally, you know, middle class, comfortable on the edge of bourgeois.

So I'm not going to be doing that. Middle class comfortable is by far my favorite airline seat your middle class come I would love I would love if airlines if I could get on there based on the class first of all that's also the class I grew up in right now I'm like who knows'm on spirit air in the back So Yes let's Let's start off this I think people

Are slowly realizing rich people Aren't that cool and Are starting to be like wait hold on a second Ellen hanging out with George Bush I know you talked about it. Right. From Seinfeld? Ellen DeBeneres?

DeBeneres? This is so stupid. I love it. Yeah, I do feel like we were talking about it, but in the context of it does feel like there's a sea change that's been happening for a while, but this is like a manifestation of it where it's just like, yeah, this isn't cool anymore. Sorry. The rules have changed. Shut the fuck up, Ellen.

Sadly, I think jealousy is the real motivator, right? Or at certain points, like, well, I'm not going to have that, so fuck you. I don't know how many people, like, you know, like in that Kylie Jenner, like,ner like flex selfie with her like bugatti or whatever the fuck car was right and people like this is gross yeah whatever like i know there are some people that was the whole culture though that was the whole culture for the past 10 years right and i wonder if now that's a function if that's like a function of saying like i realize now i'm not gonna have that so fuck y'all because i wanted that or realizing hold on this i'm operating in like a fucking fucked up matrix yeah that's upside down when you said class trader were you what were you referring like people like disney's granddaughter who are like

being like yo we need to pay more like i don't give a fuck we have too much i was just listening to somebody talk about how that's what you need as class traders because they will never let somebody into power who doesn't like who doesn't have the same background as them right so like the the person who broke up the monopolies in the first place like back at the turn of the like in the early 1900s

was Teddy Roosevelt and he was just like yeah I know like you guys got me elected but now I'm gonna break up your monopoly like just had to like totally do a heel turn on the on the richie rich that's almost the only besides like mass action right that's the only way in that stuff it's the same thing with like the impeachment shit that's going on now where it's like he get off his back trump literally could have done anything up until the point where he actually like attacked another elite i mean this is just i'm just

parroting chris hedge is what he said on democracy now last week i think but uh but he was just he's saying like is the same thing with watergate right everyone was fine with nixon like murdering how many millions of of cambodians and vietnamese people and then when he uh burgled the democrats that's right they're like oh got to get rid of this dude. Yeah. At the same time, it is like our whole system rests on the idea of democracy. And if he's blatantly cheating at an election, I mean, granted, our rules could be seen as somewhat arbitrary.

But it's that weird thing, though, too. We've been saying of all this shit we've seen prior to this. Yeah. It's when he tried to smear a centrist Democrat. Yeah. That somehow was like, oh, hold on a second. Yeah, that's it. It's like he literally went into office ignoring the emoluments clause.

Yeah. Which is grounds for impeachment instantly. And everyone's just like, oh, it's okay that he's profiting off of his presidency. Or like even if you look at, anyway, look, that's why we're podcasting and not at the levers of power. So class warfare. New levers. Build your own levers.

At the same time. To the guillotine. I think you guys all have a point. I just need to check and figure out what LeBron James thinks about it. And then I will let you know what I think. LeBron James finally another rich person no way uh finally what is a myth what's something people think is true you know to be false so i had a couple ideas for this and uh like the netflix model is uh unsustainable and now he's

like don't do that do something fun so the myth the myth that I'm going to dispel is. The Netflix model is in high-stress situation. Mozzarella sticks are bad for you. That's the myth. And I'm going to say, no, they're great for you. Follow the logic on this. Have you guys ever been in a high-stress situation? Yes.

Every day. Okay. And how does your body feel in that high-stress situation? I don't know. I've never felt different. From the womb to the tomb. Womb to the tomb. All stress.

All stress in the unpredictable. Yeah. So have you ever been in a more stressful situation? Yes. Yes. And how does your body feel then? Very, very tight. Right.

Yes. Okay. Okay. So a while ago, Naomi and I were in a, working on a project project that was we were working with some terrible people. This is like... The Koch brothers, you can say. I don't know why we decided to sell a TV show to the Koch brothers.

We were writing scripts for Prager University videos. It was about a fracking team and how they're saving the world. Oh my god. They start fracking team and how they're saving the world. Oh my god. They start fracking and discover there's a whole underground civilization that they're fighting. The frackles!

The frackles? Yeah, frackles. The frackles. Come on, it was right there in front of us the whole time. So, it was about six years ago now. I got chest pains from this. Naomi got an ulcer from this this thing yeah it was really it was not it was not good we were under so much stress and um what was

what was the bright spot in our lives why the food we would yeah so now i say this when you are in a high stress situation why not eat a mozzarella stick yeah yeah okay from where from where from where from where though where? From where though? Well, where are we now? In Los Angeles? America. I mean like, but I'm just saying that like I can't dictate. Wherever you are, where the best mozzarella stick is.

I'll tell you this. Well, what was the one you were eating? I want to get like- Well, that was New York then. I don't know exactly. Call it out. Here, House of Pies, surprisingly the best mozzarella stick I've had in Los Angeles. Cosa Buona comes in second.

Cosa Buona. Because they have a smoky mozzarella stick, but it's not, but it's like homemade. It's delicious. But it's when you want like a mozzarella stick, flour shell, deliciously fried. Yeah. House of Pies. Nothing else on their menu is great. Right.

But their mozzarella sticks. Brought to you by House of Pies. You know, that's what I think most doctors say. If you're having chest pains, have some mozzarella sticks. I do think, though. What's going on, Andy? Chest pains? I can't feel my arm, but I should have these mozzarella sticks with the other one.

When people talk about the placebo effect, they picture like sugar pills only. But the placebo effect basically means how you think you feel is like how your body is actually going to behave and medically exist. And I feel like eating comfort food sometimes is healthy. Oh, hell yeah. There's nothing that, man, I know exactly what you mean. Stress eating and I will go hand in hand. Yeah. And also knowing there are certain things that you eat that make you feel really good.

Yeah. I love a French dip sandwich. Yeah. That also knowing there are certain things that you eat that make you feel really good. Yeah. I love a French dip sandwich. Yeah. Ooh. That's just how I self-medicate with food. With French dip. That seems very hoity-toity. Yeah.

Well, I mean, like you get a Philips. You can get, you know, there's a way to make it yourself where you get the little packet and just make a weird one on your stove. Not that great. French onion soup for me. That was a part of the bourgeoisie. Right? Am I right?

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I'm sorry about that. Jack threw a mug at the wall. But it didn't shatter, which made it very counter... It was really sad. The velocity from your hand was very low. It barely made it to the wall. Ooh, Jack. It says more about your strength than your anger. You might want to have a mozzarella stick moment.

Oh, like Popeye? Yeah. It's called Fart Guy. How would Popeye eat a mozzarella stick? Would he squeeze the breading and the thing would shoot into his mouth like a hot load? Let's talk about LeBron. I'm sorry. Let's talk about LeBron James.

This upset me more than it should have. More than I care to admit. Yeah. than I more than it should have more than I care to admit. Yeah. So look, the NBA and pretty much any company doing business with China that's an American based company is going through a bit of a time now where people have to be like, should we talk out loud in favor of people who are being oppressed by this autocratic regime? I don't know. Or do we like money better?

Right. And the NBA saga unfolded when Daryl Moria from the Rockets tweeted out an image in solidarity of the Hong Kong protests. And then so that caused- And that was almost fired. Dude, it caused a massive profits fire. Like, leaning sportswear

ended their deal with the Rockets. Tencent, like, every company, a lot of companies that are doing business with the NBA are like, we're done. James Harden and Russell Westbrook in the immediate aftermath were like, we love China. China is the best. China is actually really tight to me.

We love our fans there. Super tight. We love authoritarian communism slash capitalism. So sick though, whatever. I guess I'm more, I was more willing to forgive that because it was the day after and they were clearly like had a gun to their head. Whereas this is like, yeah,

well, I think a week and a half later, LeBron James, he has to say, so I'm sure he was probably asked. I'm sure that's how it all happened. And his answer, but anyway,

he just has this quote. He said, I don't want to get into a verbal feud with Daryl Morey, but I believe he wasn't educated on the situation at hand. And he spoke and he spoke. Wow. And so many people could have been harmed not only financially physically emotionally spiritually so just be careful what we tweet and say and we do

even though yes we do have freedom of speech but there can be a lot of negative that comes with that too i mean unless we play in china then we don don't. Right. I'm just, what? Have freedom of speech. What was, what is he, I don't understand, that he wasn't educated on the situation. What is he misinformed by? Yeah, I was confused. What did LeBron James think that Daryl Morey didn't know when he tweeted support for the people in Hong Kong

who are being like riot policed to. I think I don't know the cynical version. Maybe he didn't understand the whole like the law like what was going on with the. Is it extradition? I forget the exact. Sure. Like what the reason why the rendition. Maybe he didn't understand that whole thing.

I think. Yeah. I think really what it says the translation might be talking about China can fuck up everyone's money. We aren't willing to confront their transgressions because it would risk our revenues. So we have chosen to ignore this because money is more important. Yeah. I think is what he meant. Right.

See, guys, it's a class warfare. Yeah, no, but again, you know, and it's a very odd. It was a weird thing to say. Yeah, no, but again, you know, and it's a very odd, it was a weird thing to say. And I can only imagine the league's biggest star probably has to send up a flare to Chinese business interests to say, like, I am still in line with whatever y'all are trying to do. But even the NBA, after they initially issued a statement that was like kind of in this direction that was sort of like, well, you know, there's multiple sides to everything. Adam Silver came out and was, you know, made a statement that was definitely picking the side of,

you know, freedom of speech and pissing China off. So like, it's not like Adam Silver was behind him being like, say this or else. Yeah, no. It was all about not fucking up his money. It's like he's about progressive values until it becomes uncomfortable. It's a little, yeah,

it's a little sad to see because on one hand, I can understand privately if he's what he's saying is to someone else, he goes, man, Daryl should have known. He's like, we're in bed with China. That's like a third rail topic.

Like you only talk about the business and that don't talk about anything about what their government does or anything to do with their domestic reform. You can talk about the Meg and other international co-productions. Right. And how, and how sick leaning footwear is. Right. But like,

that's where I wish he would have just not said anything at all because i can stomach him just being you know about his money and not really trying to act like he's some kind of savior type person right but it's drawn a lot of criticism him saying this has drawn a lot of crit muhammad ali's wife was like muhammad ali wouldn't have done that and he wouldn't have no he wouldn't have but i I do think it's sometimes important to remember, you shouldn't have your hopes pinned on. I don't watch athlete interviews after the game for a reason. They are always boring as fuck.

They don't have interesting insight. I just want to thank God. Right. And I want to thank... Leaning sportswear. Jesus. I want to thank the Holy Ghost want to thank leaning sportswear jesus yep i want to thank the holy i'm sorry i misspoke not jesus uh xi jinping i'm sorry uh she's in christ yeah but ollie kaepernick uh like you can't you can't really count that many

athletes who were like important you know oj simJ Simpson on Twitter, Tom Brady, obviously, you know, the greats. What did OJ say? Oh my God. He's just too much. He's incredible. I love China makes some great knives. Right. Well, I think that's the whole deal, right? As certain people in your activism, if you're really about your activism, you will follow that path wherever it leads you. It's not for the faint of heart. And I think that's what we see is at the end of the day, LeBron James is a capitalist. That's his prerogative as a business person. I mean, this is what Michael Jordan probably would have done or said. Dude, yeah. He would have been like, fuck them protesters. Right. Probably.

Exactly. I mean, he's- Was that your Michael Jordan impression? No, just not. I don't think there's a way to properly do Michael Jordan. Right. But he did say fuck them kids. I can't even imagine what his voice sounds like now. Yeah, he's not a very kind guy. But for example, Enes Kanter, who's a Turkish player,

he tweeted out basically after this came out, he said, so anyway, Enes Kanter basically cannot go back to Turkey. Right. Erdogan wants him dead. Yeah, and Enes Kanter basically cannot go back to Turkey. Right. Erdogan wants him dead. Yeah, and Enes Kanter has been outspoken and a very big critic of Erdogan. And so that comes with consequences. And he tweeted, Haven't seen or talked to my family five years.

Jailed my dad. My siblings can't find jobs. Revoked my passport. International arrest warrant. My family can't leave the country. Got death threats every day. Got attacked, harassed. Tried to kidnap me in indonesia freedom is not free and i think that sort of realigning the stakes for people here it's like this isn't just some it's not just like

is the is it did it was it yanni or laurel right it's like fucking real shit here right it's not like oh yeah i'm either cool with this or no, actually, this is actually, I cannot abide by this. It just depends on your point of view. Yeah.

And again, you should have taken other people's point of views into account. Take the middle road like most people and just don't say anything at all. Right.

You know, but if you're going to, don't speak on the right side, please. By the way, has anyone ever done an Erdogan slash and one mashup? Erdogan mixtape?

Yeah. Because I would love to see that. Hell yeah. I mean, his crossover was nasty. I saw him fucking spin hot sauce in half. It was incredible. Let's talk about the ongoing impeachment inquiry and the whistleblower story. Yeah. Wow. It's it's getting hotter. It's getting look.

I thought you were about to start singing. It's getting hot in here. It's getting hot in here. So hot. So take off all your clothes. No, every day there's a new person who's like i don't care what the white house said i'm gonna go talk to congress i don't give a fuck there's no confidential information because you have made it public therefore there's no like there's no legal argument as to why i shouldn't go up there that's exactly what fiona hill uh who was the national security council's like russia aid uh set her lawyer basically said to the white house and they're like no she's gonna go testify she republican herself um i'm not sure but she's definitely what she was saying you wouldn't think

it she's definitely not you know or you know whatever she's at least able to speak coherently on this very narrow topic i mean it the intelligence agencies hate trump i mean they despise him yeah and because i there was a Matt Taibbi article where he was saying, like, most of the time when there's a whistleblower in any of the intelligence agencies, they destroy that person. Right. They just, like, destroy their lives. The intelligence agencies themselves. The intelligence agencies. And this is the first time where there's a quote-unquote whistleblower, and they're like, this is the greatest person that's ever come forward.

Yeah. blower and they're uh they're like this is the greatest person that's ever come forward yeah they and it is it's a valid question is she herself a republican because i mean most people in national security are republicans like by nature like that's that's who generally gravitates towards security and defense sort of career it's odd too because it also kind of obscures like what Reality Winner or like Chelsea Manning have done. Like those are people who are absolutely paying consequences. Genuine heroes who did real things. That redefines what a whistleblower is kind of. And I know there have been a lot of articles.

I think maybe, was that Matt Taibbi's article maybe? Talking about in the context of like actual whistleblowers and like what the fate has been for those people? Yeah. I mean like reality winner, what she has like a five-year sentence. Is Chelsea Manning out – is she back out of jail? I think she's still being held. She was put back in jail again. Yeah.

It's again – and this is – the whole situation again, again for whatever reason this is the moment people are choosing to find their morality and whatever their convictions and things like this but between Fiona Hill and the deputy assistant secretary of state George Ken who have both basically testified in front of Congress are telling lawmakers the same thing Rudy Giuliani was running an outright smear campaign against Maria Ivanovich, the ambassador to Ukraine, and running a whole- Because they were worried that she was too on the up and up and wouldn't let them do crimes. Right. Rudy Giuliani, the hero of 9-11?

Right. And running their own shadow foreign policy is what was said. And it kind of shows you how many people, there are many people within the White House who sound like, dude, Rudy's fucking out of control. And, you know, John Bolton somehow. Noted liberal John Bolton. Might end up being like the cherry on top. Blood just dripping from his jaws. Well, it's funny because when he was like,

I resign and Trump's like, he's fired or whatever, like unceremoniously left the White House, he vowed to make a mess. And you're starting to see that. Trump already suspects that a lot of the leaks are coming from John Bolton. But that's kind of what happens when there's no honor among thieves and people are out and they're spiteful. So one of the things that the testimony Fiona Hill gave basically KO'd all these defenses that the GOP has been giving, whether it's the quid pro quo thing or the absurd argument Sondland was going to give.

She says that there was a big blowout with John Bolton, Kurt Volker, Gordon Sondland, and a couple of Ukrainians because they were basically talking about this deal. This is her testimony. Mr. Bolton was trying to not commit to a meeting. According to Ms. Hill's testimony, Mr. Sondland got agitated and let out that there was an agreement with Mr. Mulvaney that there would be a meeting, well, with Ukrainians, if Ukraine opened up the investigations the White House was seeking. Yeah, that's it. Literally, you've described the quid pro quo right there. Yeah.

John Bolton, welcome to the resistance. And John Bolton was pissed. So then what happened next? Mr. Bolton ended the meeting abruptly as the group moved toward the door. Mr. Sondland said he wanted them to come down to the ward room next to the White House mess to discuss next steps. Mr. Bolton pulled her aside and told her to report everything they talked about. When she got downstairs, Sondland was talking with the Ukrainians and specifically mentioned Burisma, the Ukrainian energy firm that had Hunter Biden on their board. biden on their board then what miss hill testified that she asked mr sonland why he would be discussing this in front of their ukrainian colleagues and tried to shuffle them out of the room and break

things up at one point mr sonland mentioned mr giuliani who was involved in the discussions about a possible meeting between the two presidents right so and edward sonland as we were talking about yesterday he's out here trying to be like oh oh, I had no idea what they were, what was going on. His name's not Edward, is it? Or Gordon. Yeah. I'm sorry. I don't know why I keep thinking it's Edward.

But anyway. Gordon DeBanners. Oh, God. I'm messing up the names today. But I'm saying like, is he going to testify something that is counterfactual? Right. A lie? Will he tell lies?

Is counterfactual? Right. A lie? Will he tell lies? It seems like he wants to just get it out there so he's not the bad guy. Yeah, but he's trying to do it both ways where he's trying to be like, I didn't do it. And also, they're not that bad, yo. Right. Like, that's not going to work.

Right. Especially not when you have all these people who are there talking to you in your face being like, this is not what happened. Right. So it'll get interesting and now rudy giuliani's like i will not fucking cooperate with a single congressional subpoena also didn't he fire his lawyer because the former watergate prosecutor yeah yeah i think he left actually i don't know there's a lot of rumors as to what happened but after two weeks like okay so that was two weeks ago. That's when the scandal broke. By this time, he's like, okay, I'm out. Right.

Rat dog. Yeah. Disco biscuits. Widespread panic. Widespread panic. Government mule. Oh, jam bands? Yeah, that was the band.

Moe, leftover salmon. Just a handful. Just a sprinkling. Widespread panic is the one that I was trying to think of. Fuck. Massive attack. Okay, that kind of makes sense. Yeah, yeah. Just a sprinkling of panic is the one that i was trying to think of fuck massive attack okay that kind of makes sense yeah yeah just a sprinkling of names yeah yeah thank you so much you're the best man uh let's talk about u.s foreign policy that doesn't necessarily involve the whistleblower directly uh but it might just bombing wedding weddings involve general widespread incompetence.

Widespread panic? Yes, widespread panic even. Yeah, actually, widespread panic. So, I mean, Trump's Syria policy was... Can you call it a policy? No. Trump's policy... Trump's mood.

Trump's decision. I worked for someone that is exactly like Trump once. And people like him don't have policies. They just have whatever fucking shit just flies in front of their face. They're just like, yeah, do that thing or go against that thing. Well, there's also speculation that his conversation with Erdogan was involved like some of his financial interests in Turkey, right? Yes. And also talks about a banker that Rudy Giuliani was representing.

There's a lot going on. Yeah, we talked about that a couple of days ago. But yeah, I mean, I think when you sort of look at what's happening, obviously Trump pulling out of Syria and abandoning our Kurdish allies, creating a power vacuum that Russia is so glad to fill because now they're already patrolling the areas that have been vacated by the U.S. troops. Yeah.

And it basically has had the knock on effect of creating an alliance between the Kurds and Russia vis-a-vis Assad, basically, where, you know, this is like the perfect thing for Putin. He would love nothing more than to have like the reputation of the U.S. as an ally be like a thing that you can't count on anymore because that was sort of like the post-World War II thing that they're trying to break up. And it's slowly happening now, right? With this- I mean, not slowly. It fucking happened overnight. It's like people who are like in national security are like, this is all of our worst nightmares. And it like happened immediately, like right away. It's like two days later, Russia is like allied with the Kurds and it's happened immediately. Like right away. It's like two days later, Russia is like allied with the Kurds

and it's a disaster. It's like all of the paranoid fantasies of like, what if there was an idiot who was president? Like we would be super fucked. Who had no idea about the nuances of- Yeah, who just wasn't willing to take into account the nuances of, you know, international- Not even nuances.

Ally equals good. By the way, there's no one good in this story no one is a good person like right putin's a monster yeah trump is as just a stupid beast uh the cia spent the last what six decades seven decades overthrowing democratic and in the whistleblower scandal like a lot of the people are probably pissed at Trump because he's not better at doing crimes as opposed to the fact that he's doing them. It's like, oh, come on, man. If you're going to cheat on your test,

print out the answers on a clear label. You're going to get us all busted. That's what I shit. Yeah, exactly. You're making it hot. That's exactly what he's doing. Why do they always tell on themselves? Like these people like Trump or Giuliani. They just outright say the shit they've done i think their privilege just puts them in a different reality where you can say things like

like because it clearly would trump transparency equals innocence to him right i'm if i'm if i'm transparently corrupt then what's the problem i'm not like being duplicitous like i'm it's all on the open so i don't know the duplicity is the problem yeah oh i would never be duplicit just be corrupt out in the open well i mean that is the issue that we're having is that we have this model for what a political scandal looks like. And it involves lying. And he, in addition to lying, also just says, just doesn't realize that what he's doing is bad. Yeah. And so just openly does it and is like, yeah, what are you going to do?

Yeah. And so just openly does it and is like, yeah, what are you going to do? Yeah. Well, again, with the Syria thing, like Trump, you know, there are reports that he thought like Erdogan was bluffing about invading Syria. Right. It's like he's been saying this for years now. Right. But he's like, yeah, I gave the okay to the thing he said he would do for years and he

did it. Whoa. And then the response are these like weak sanctions packages i don't know why he's trying to get credit for putting out a fucking forest fire that he started and not even putting it out like he brought a water gun to a fucking forest fight yeah a forest fight forest fire that's a good band name forest forest fight uh but he doesn't he doesn't that's the thing he doesn't give any forethought he doesn't get forethought he doesn't get after thought of the stuff he reacts to whatever is in front of him does whatever the thing. He doesn't give any forethought. He doesn't give forethought. He doesn't give afterthought to the stuff. He reacts to whatever is in front of him, does whatever the thing is that will either

enrich him or hurt his enemies. Right. And then he goes on to whatever the next thing is and then just reacts to that. Right. Just this putrid, dripping ichor of id. Right. I'm imagining just like some shadow creature just dripping

this stuff with like these sharp disgusting teeth just like Yeah. So while we're on the subject of what a good leader he is apparently we might be in for four more years according to Moody's who is the credit rating agency,

they have a model that just looks at the economy and has chosen correctly every time since 1980 who would win the presidential election. Every time, sorry, except for 2016, the one time that people were actually surprised. So it doesn't mean shit. Well, then we should keep listening to that. But I do like, I think this is representative of something we're going to see more and more of as, you know, the 2020 election gets rolling.

monoculture media apparatus is, you know, it has an entire history of elections to draw on and only one 2016 election to draw on and so they're going to say shit like this. President Donald Trump looks likely to cruise to re-election

next year under three different economic models. Barring anything unusual happening, the president's electoral college victory could easily surpass his 2016 win over Hillary Clinton. Barring anything unusual happening. Like, aren't we beyond that?

Like, do... Everything is unusual. Everything is unusual. Here's the thing. A, was Moody's one of the companies that uh was paid off to change ratings in the uh in the big short uh that fictional movie no in reality uh going uh leading up to the 2008 crash weren't they one there were two companies and weren't they fannie may and freddie mac i think uh no no it was moody's and whatever the other one that rates uh that gives like triple a right right right uh weren't they one of them

also like every um person that like was like uh we know what's gonna happen in 2016 they're all still working yeah like nate silver i'm like why are we listening to this guy he's been wrong so many times including this giant one this big old old screw up in predicting the 2016 election. That's one of my myths, Andy, that I like to bust. But he said that Trump had a 33% chance. He wasn't one of the ones that was saying it was a one in a million that Trump would win. But he gets lumped in with all the predictive people, I think. The thing just about this is that it's coming from

a fucking financial services company. Right. And it's coming as- Wall Street is telling you, well, if you look, because I mean, let's just think about what's going on right now. If you look at a lot of the polling or the averages, Elizabeth Warren could be ahead of Joe Biden, who is a pee pants nightmare for Wall Street. Then after Biden is Bernie Sanders, a poo pants nightmare for Wall Street. And then so they're like, fuck, like we're in a really weird spot because if it's not Biden, the next two people have literally were on their hit list. And I think for them to be, I think it's them being like, hey, man, you better. Wall Street's telling you this could be, you know, save us, please, sir.

You know, we're telling you this could be bad if it's these people we're looking at right now. I just, I'm a little bit cynical when I see Moody's be like, emphatically be like, dude, Donald Trump's going to crush whoever it is. And I guess by right now, if we're looking at the averages of polls, I guess that's Elizabeth Warren. So maybe we should go back to the Biden thing. I don't know. I don't know. It's my two cents. I'm Moody's.

I'm out. But also like like there's a very good chance trump will be re-elected absolutely yeah totally especially if it's if biden is the uh nominee yeah or some other i will bet you guys now i think warren is even problematic uh i think bernie is the only one that is a clear it's a toss-up and even then i think it might who knows but uh but yeah we we are all probably looking at another four years of trump well i can't imagine again because it would take a lot when you think about how the huge donors are thinking if it's fucking elizabeth warren we're gonna back trump or that there's been grumblings like that and he already has historical then like in a way you might have to see the DNC play ball in their weird fucking way.

And then it'll be like, Oh, here's Pete Buttigieg. But they don't give a shit. The DNC doesn't care because they still get paid. The top people there still get paid their job. They're not invulnerable. They're not being put in cages.

They're not, their children aren't being taken from them. No, not at all. They don't care. They, their consultants still get paid so if they lose like with hillary clinton they knew that the numbers weren't great they knew she was a flawed candidate in the first place and they knew that they should have like or maybe they didn't uh and i think it was just that adjusted very uncreative thinking of like thinking of where people were and what the direction people were possibly looking towards.

And then you're like, we'll just go with this very familiar like dynastic name. Yeah. And even like during that time, I understand why conventional wisdom had it that Hillary was like a safe bet to be to beat Trump, because in the past, like centrist Democrats had been. to beat Trump because in the past, like centrist Democrats had been, but if you still believe that, like what the fuck were you not paying attention to about 2016? Like we're not that in that world anymore. Um,

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We're recording late. I don't know. I think Beto O'Rourke's saying some shit right now. Amy Klobuchar. Yeah. The gang's all here. Klobuchar went after. I hear she picked up her podium and threw it at Buttigieg. Yeah.

No, Amy Klobuchar came at Elizabeth. Came at Warren. Yeah. Elizabeth, pretty interestingly. Yeah. I'm sure when I unmute this, it's going to be a lot. I'm thinking it's spicy. I don't know.

We all will know tomorrow. Well, let's talk about what's actually important in the moment. Yes, thank you. That there is a Taco Bell recall of tainted beef. Quote, unquote, beef. And it's causing a widespread panic. There we go. Thank you so much.

He has returned. So basically, Monday, they said they are voluntarily recalling 2.3 million pounds of seasoned beef in 21 states. So if you're in the eastern Midwest. That's what they used to call me at the gym, by the way. Dude, this is so crazy. Seasoned beef. The eastern Midwest, the northern southeast, and northeast. Right.

Very specifically. But they're saying, don't worry, it wasn't salmonella. It was just metal shavings. Metal shavings. Yeah, so that's a public service announcement from the Daily Zeitgeist, because I know I preach the gospel of Elbel. Are metal shavings dangerous to ingest? I think so.

It's not like glass, right? Glass. Well, first of all, it can fuck up your teeth second of all like think about you ingest a burrito full of metal shavings and then go into one of those magnetic imaging machines yeah and it just cut pulls it through your body that would be some final destination shit son but i was imagining like that you know when you were a kid you had that little thing with the um shavings and you could change the hair. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's what I'm imagining. Yeah. That you could change the hair on, like, you eat these Taco Bell burritos. And just move them around your stomach. Yeah. And you move, you can move your organs around. Rip through organs. Oh my God.

You're like, I want my organs in a different configuration. I'm sick of my stomach being here. I can't. I mean, look, I honestly, I like metal shavings in my Mexi Melt, so I'm not that mad at it. I add them in. I go to the, you know,

I put in the little hot sauce, put in some metal shavings. All right, let me get a cheesy roll up, add pico, add beef, add metal shavings, please.

Three of them. Let's talk about, let's talk about some food that is farm to runway food. The next evolution in airline food. Just that? Oh, that runway. I thought we were going fashion.

Yeah. The couture for farmers. This cow is wearing a beautiful, another cow. This outfit will have you saying, yo, man. Yo, man farmers. Okay.

Now, yes, Singapore Airlines announced a thing that i thought was probably just absurd on its face but when i read about the company that's doing it it's not as sort of gross as i thought uh they basically if you have a business class ticket for the new york to singapore direct flight you can eat like a boss uh they are basically providing uh like organic produce that is like grown less than like 10 miles from the runway so it's the freshest possible ingredients for their pot why are they doing this to offset their carbon footprint i think like oh yeah that should work well okay so this place that they're using i think this is more of an interesting story on this kind of vertical indoor farming techniques that they use. This place, Arrow Farms, is the indoor farm where they're getting the food.

But I didn't realize it uses 95% less water than field farm food. Field farm food. Love the triple F, but you know, got to love this new indoor food. And they say also because the process is is about like, like spray bottling, like waters directly, the water onto the roots. You will get, you can harvest vegetables in 10 to 14 versus 30 to 45 conventional farming.

Days of traditional farming. I mean, look, God bless days of traditional farming. Right. We really love them. But yeah, look,

didn't realize, I guess now, now we all have something to aspire to. We all want to fly business class from Newark to Singapore. Yeah. And really join the successful people. The other option is to fly middle class comfort class, in which case you eat out of a bowl like you were just hearing me do while Miles was speaking. A tin bowl.

You could hear me eating out of a tin bowl. That was sampling the other option. Lamb and rice. Yeah, lamb and rice kibble. One more food story before we get to the main attraction, which is Robert Downey Jr.'s new movie, Doolittle, for some reason.

Coca-Cola is making Tic Tacs. Yeah. And that's all. That's it. I don't understand what is the isn't a tic tac a breath mint hold on no because they can be great uh i know they're sweet they can be all by by great i mean like the breath freshening stuff who cares but you got orange tic tacs they're delicious they're delicious i know i love them and coke here's the thing as a vegetarian i have not been

able to have coke gummies because they have gelatin in them. For 15 years. Are you vegan or vegetarian? Are you able to have? Vegetarian. Are you able to have gelatin? Yeah, no animal things. You have to kill the animal to get the hooves to make the gelatin.

But you eat milk. You eat cheese. Yes. I'm not vegan. Great. Fantastic. You don't have to kill any animal to get cheese. Yes.

But you can drink Coca-Cola too, right? You drink Coca-Cola?, right? You drink Cola? There's a very... He's drinking a Diet Coke right now, Jack. There's a very specific taste that the Cola adds to the gummies. Okay. It's delicious. They use the gummies.

And I have missed that. Now you're offering me another candy that has Cola taste? Yeah. They actually... I'm on board. First I thought you were Coke Brothers. Then I thought it was cocaine Tic Tacs. It was some new drug.

Right, right, right. But now you're telling me it's Coca-Cola? It's a nasal supp I thought it was cocaine Tic Tacs. It was some new drug. Right, right, right. But now you're telling me it's Coca-Cola flavored Tic Tacs? Yeah. Coca-Cola flavored Tic Tacs. They are white on the outside, which bugs me for some reason.

I can't quite figure out why. But the vanilla ones are like, or the regular mint ones that had a hint of vanilla on the outside. You want them to be brown? Yeah, I want them to be brown.

Well, then they can't print. I think it's just to be able to print the red coca-cola i don't know look i'm not in marketing here's the thing two things that have equally bad aftertastes coca-cola and the white tic-tacs i gotta have i gotta argue with you coke zero definitely metallic terrible aftertaste coca-cola itself oh my god i'll just sip on that after i don't even need to drink me a glass of Coke Zero, definitely metallic, terrible aftertaste. Really? Coca-Cola itself? Oh, my God. I'll just sip on that aftertaste. I don't even need to drink. Give me a glass of aftertaste. I don't need the Coca-Cola itself.

I just want that aftertaste. What do you mean? In what sense? Like how your teeth feel like they're turning into dust? It feels like it fucks your, like, yeah, it makes your teeth gritty like the Tic Tac. It makes your breath taste like. No, it makes it gritty like the Tic Tac. It makes your breath taste like- No, it makes it gritty like the mascot. Right.

AKA fantastic. Maybe that's what you prefer is gritty. So maybe that's just the difference between you and me. They had a one before that was a generic cherry cola Tic Tac that I remember I bought. Because I like to fuck around with Tic Tacs. That makes sense to me. And it was generic though. And it was a little odd.

Right. But maybe if they have the original formula, then they found something good. sense to me. And it was generic though. And it was a little odd. Right. But, you know, maybe if they have the original formula, then they found something good. I guess with the Coke aftertaste, I mean, not the immediate aftertaste, which they've perfected the mouthfeel and even food scientists

say Coca-Cola has the best balance. Did Coke get to you? I was going to say, did they yank your leash right now? No, it's five minutes after you drink a Coke. You're the LeBron of Coca-Cola. Five minutes after you drink a Coke, your mouth starts to, like, I don't know. It's like the opposite of the clean feeling you have after you brush your teeth. You get morning mouth. Same shit.

Yeah, morning mouth. That's a great way of describing it, Miles. Thank you so much. You know what? Put some points on the board for me. You know what? I agree with you. Thank you.

Straight up. And Tic Tac. Thank you. Thank you, Andy. Vanilla Mint Tic tacs do the same thing uh all right guys we have to get to the story of robert downey jr's return to the big screen yeah silver screen tentpole tentpole post mcu uh he is robert downey j. is Doolittle Is this like Joker? So this is like Joker It's equally anticipated

Also won the award For top film at the Venice Film Festival When it premiered there Doolittle People were sobbing in the audience I think technically Is the opposite of those attributes in that it was set to be released last spring and has instead been held for January, which is generally like studio dumping ground where they just drop all the- I mean, it's a kid's movie, right?

I don't know. You saw the trailer. It looks like a kid's movie, right? I don't know. You saw the trailer. It looks like a kid's movie. I mean, it is a kid's movie because Dr. Doolittle lives in an enchanted castle where he has a toy train running through it for some reason. Like a weird FAO Schwartz on mushrooms. Yeah. Like toys. The Robin Williams movie?

Love it. But it's... And Joan Cusack. So one sign that we're on shaky ground is that Robert Downey Jr., in order to keep himself focused, attempted a Welsh accent. Yeah, I don't know what that was.

Oh, that's a Welsh accent? He literally said he's doing it as a fun challenge for himself. What's a Welsh accent? So it is Christian Bale's accent, which if you so it is a Christian Bale's accent which if you've ever listened to Christian Bale in interviews sometimes he sounds like he has an accent sometimes he doesn't it's like why is Christian Bale have a fake accent he doesn't he has a Welsh accent which even Welsh people are like

it's really a weird accent or depending on where you are differ I mean Catherine Zeta-Jones is also Welsh. Right. And you're like, it's like vaguely English. Right. So like Madonna. Yeah. Right.

Like Lindsay Lohan. Well, like the other time that somebody tried to do a really difficult accent, Leonardo DiCaprio did a South African accent in Blood Diamond. And everyone was like, that's the worst accent work ever. But then some south african people were like no it's actually really good but we just have a weird accent that like on some words it sounds like you forgot to do the accent and on other words it sounds like you have a thick accent i remember my first trumpet teacher when i was taking lessons as a kid who like worked at my school his wife was south african and when she spoke i was like as

a kid i didn't know what the accent was and i thought i was like it sounds like she's from texas mixed with england right is what my first description of a south african accent yeah anyways this movie is it's fucking i don't it's garbage it looks like absolute trash the tray looks like absolute trash right it's not for you it's for children okay but it's very serious are you guys big doolittle heads? It has a very serious vibe to it. It starts with really dramatic sweeping shots. Yeah, dramatic. Louis Armstrong,

It's a Wonderful World is not... That's when you know a movie's going to be terrible. That was my terrible attempt. My first attempt. I'm going to do Sandsmo. Hey, that's me. Hey, guys, it's me. Hey, guys, it's me. But it's not that song in its normal presentation.

It is the echo-y version. Yeah, like the Facebook movie, whatever that was called. Social Network. Yes. Right, right, right, right. You know, there were so many things in it that were very odd. I just, for whatever reason, I just can't stand the polar bear wearing a knit cap. Why?

What's wrong with that? It's fucking dumb. Are you guys angry that includes animals that will be extinct within our lifetime? Here's what I'm angry about. It cost $175 million to make. Jesus. what i'm angry about it cost 175 million dollars to make jesus they spent a marvel movies worth of budget on this movie it's like you guys don't live in los angeles yeah i live in the valley it's made by the guy who wrote and directed siriana and who wrote traffic yeah are you serious yeah and he had to be replaced halfway through because apparently he was.

The animals were attacking Dr. Doolittle and killing him. I hear David Simon wrote the original script. Yeah. A lot of the imagery. I mean, it's one of those things. It's a hard needle to thread with Dr. Doolittle movies, I feel like, because it has to almost be fully cartoonish for it to not sort of start veering into the absolutely absurd. I think that's what we're responding to is it's like if you made Flipper a dramatic film where like Flipper was a trained assassin.

Like that's what this trailer feels like. Imagine Red Sparrow mixed with Flipper. Right. Exactly. It's just. Red Tide. Yeah. That's actually.

I mean, there was a time when the CIA was trying to do that. Not the CIA. It was like some... The Russian intelligence. There was some intelligence agency that was trying to train dolphins to do... I think the Germans... I think everybody was basically like, I don't know, fucking get these sea dogs to do shit. We have billions of dollars.

We might as well do whatever the fuck we want. They tried to do it with cats. It was called Operation Acoustic Kitty, and it did not go well. Are you serious? Yeah. Like, to do what? Scratch people's couches? I think they were bomb-carrying cats, but there's a reason the...

No, no, they were cat spies. They were cats with recording devices. Oh, got it. And that's why it was Acoustic Kitty. cats with recording devices oh got it and that's why it was acoustic kitty and uh there's a reason that uh herding cats is something that's a saying for something that's impossible oh well i mean they should have just got dr doolittle because he could have just had the cats back and say what did you hear oh my god there's your gritty remake of do where he's trained he's getting animals to do right right right uh that would actually be interesting to see do a little in the modern There's your gritty remake of Doolittle where he's getting animals to do black ops. That makes so much sense.

Right, right, right. That would actually be interesting to see Doolittle in the modern world. But this is just like Doolittle in Pirates of the Caribbean. Yeah, vaguely Pirates of the Caribbean. Yeah, that would be great. Like a series of Homeland type shit. Like gritty Doolittle. Yes.

Right. Thank you. What's the, Disney? Is that the, who's? So in conclusion, Disney, you should pay us. Contact me. Yeah. Yes.

This is the second winner of a movie idea that we've come up with in the past three episodes. It's a free punch up. Yeah. The Nightmare on Elm Street, but it's people who get too high is the other really good idea. And then their panic brings on Freddy Krueger to fuck them up. So it's like how high plus. Right. Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, too high. Yeah. How high. Anyways, Andy. We're just fucking cranking out the IP. I know. It's been so fun having you, man. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you?

Oh, of course, on all social media at Andy Beckerman. And we're label mates guys yeah we have a a podcast here on this very network called couples therapy me and my dear common law wife naomi uh where we take the best sets from our live show couples therapy where we have comics who are closed do sets together about their relationship. We bring them to you. Then we also talk about our relationship and other things. Things like encountering coyotes with our sweet new dear Mabel, who you heard chewing

in the background. Such a sweet name. And what else recently happened? We went to Solvang. I'm really undersold. No, you guys have got to do this. We have wonderful guests. We talk about relationships. No, you guys have wonderful guests. We talk about relationships. Yeah. And hearing the relationship between comedians is also if you like live comedy.

And this is not just like hearing people go up and do their material. You're hearing like improvisers and comedians go up and do what is like five. Yeah. It's like a new. So shears a maid. Right. Andy Kindler. and be funny on stage with one another rachel interacting off of one another it's orange is the new blacks danielle

brooks yes it's so good the list keeps the list goes on and on and andy is there a tweet or other work of social media that you've been enjoying yes uh so most of the stuff that i like happens to be pictures but um i like this is a a comedian and uh pal dan wilber at dan wilber he said uh this is a couple days ago i don't understand why aoc would pay 300 for a haircut when every man criticizing her would cut it for free as long as they got to keep the hair. That's so good. That made me laugh a lot. That is great. Miles,

where can people find you and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh man, tweets, Twitter, find me on Instagram and that other one, Twitter, at miles of gray, a tweet that I like.

Actually, shout out to ATL Prince of Wales and at Shivani Lee, because we were talking about drive-thrus and the impact that they have on, like, urban spaces. And you hipped me to some knowledge. So I will consider that, actually. It does make sense because, yes, we are not properly using the land. Okay. Now, for a couple of tweets I like. This one is from Blair Saki, at Blair Saki.

I have not been sleeping well for a while, so this really resonated with me. It says, I love how companies are like, if you buy this mattress, you will finally be able to sleep. Like, I'm sure, Casper, does it come with a new brain, bitch? She's the best. You were really doing Blair's cadence, too. 100%. I mean mean if Blair knows anything

I've mastered her tone and cadence Miles Miles' career can really be seen as one long audition for the Blair Saki

yeah lifetime film biopic yeah when you do your SNL audition are you gonna do Blair this is Blair Saki this is Blair Saki

who just tried out before me yes I like him parker at allergic to sex tweeted hey tsa how are you gonna take my toothpaste because it's quote too big but let me board with all this ass and it the av club tweeted neil pat Neil Patrick Harris might jack into hashtag The Matrix 4. And Dylan Galula tweeted, I see now that this says jack into Matrix 4. Ignore my voicemail. She thought it said jack off to Matrix 4.

Miles. I wasn't listening. I was talking to Dan through the glass. I'm sorry. Were you telling him to cut all this? He's doing it again. I mean, everyone's going to jack off to Matrix 4. Call his doctor.

That's not news. Who's not going to jack off to Matrix 4? The Merovingians? Come on. They're hot. I looked them up. They were French kings. Christian kings. What does this have to do with? How am I going to figure out the matrix?

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