The Daily Zeitgeist - Don-ward Spiral? The Queen vs Netflix 12.1.20

Episode Date: December 1, 2020

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aka nickel jack o'brien look at this covid graph every time I see it makes me sad. How did it get this bad? Fucking snowflakes not wearing masks. That is courtesy of John John. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Hey, I run a pet zoo. Have a frog named Larry. And here's Lord Feathers, my pet canary. It's hard to profit.

The idea's lazy. But here's my Petsu. So call me Miles Gray. Okay. Shout out to Hannah Saltis, Hannah Ravick View on Discord. I just love that he said, here's my frog named Larry and Lord Feathers, my pet canary. Shout out to Lord Feathers, too. Anyone.

Wait, what is that a reference to? No, I just like the thought put into the world in which I'm existing. In which you exist. Lord Feathers and my frog. At the center of a pet zoo? Yeah. Yeah. Lord Feathers and Larry.

Yeah. I feel like, you know, that's a challenge. Yeah, like regal names. Like Larry, I feel like could also be Lord Scales or whatever. We'll workshop it. That's between me and the pen. All right. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the brilliant, the talented,

the legendary Lacey Mosley. What's poppin'? Yes. There she is. That almost sounded like a drop, you coming in there. That was so perfect. What's poppin'? That's actually a song.

That's Grammy nominated. A Grammy nominated song. Shout out to whoever sings that. I love that song. How was your holiday break? Feeling good? Feeling easy? Did you recharge? I mean, honestly, I'm happy to have shit to do again I love that song how was your how was your holiday break feeling good feeling easy did you recharge

I mean honestly I'm happy to have shit to do again cause it was weird like Thanksgiving hit on a Thursday then obviously

everything's locked down cause we live in LA yeah and then okay yeah like every year oh wow shit

I didn't know if that was gonna get go by unnoticed or what yeah like every year uh huh yep Thursday Oh, shit. I didn't know if that was going to go by unnoticed or what. Yeah, like every year. Yep, Thursdays. It's 2020, okay?

Anything can happen. I'm just fucking with you. Thanksgiving could pull up on a Wednesday, and I'd be like, okay. So then it was just like so many days of not really needing to do work, and I lost track of time and just watched a lot of fucking TV. So I'm glad to like have it feel like a Monday. I've never been happy for a Monday, but I was like, OK, Monday, pull up. Wow. What'd you watch?

Any any trash holiday stuff? Oh, I'm gonna be talking about it. OK. Oh, OK. Oh, I like. All right. Well, great tease. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

First, a couple of things we're talking about. We're just going to check in with Trump World. I spent my holiday weekend just completely checked out from what was going on with that man. It was very refreshing. We're going to talk about the NFL. We're going to talk about the white fragility, the quote, genius edition, because we got some people who are purported geniuses who are really coming out of the woodwork to let us know that it's not fair.

It's not fair to them. Speaking of which, we're also going to talk about The Crown because some British people want Netflix to put a warning before the crown not because of historical inaccuracy but because it's too mean to the royal family uh so we'll talk about all plenty more but first lacy what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are uh supermarket sweep okay okay uh i'm obsessed with supermarket sweep. Okay. Oh. Okay. I'm obsessed with supermarket sweep. I've been like, I've watched all the old episodes.

I love Leslie Jones on it now. She's fucking crushing it. She's doing the most, and I love it. Like, the last episode on Sunday, she was, like, humping one of the free teddy bears. And I was just like, why is this happening? And I was like, but I love it. Why not? But I love it.

And I, like, want to be on Supermarket Sweep so badly. And I don't think that my agents or managers would let me do this. But I really fucking want to be on this show. Like, I've always wanted to be on it. I'm a weird kid who came home from school and watched Supermarket Sweep with David Ruprecht and his press khakis. Wow. Shit. And during quarantine, I started to think, like, is David Ruprecht fine?

That's where I'm at in quarantine. That sounds about right for you. So I was Googling. Shut up. Shut up, mom. David Ruprecht and the Pressed Khakis is actually one of my favorite bands. Yeah. I love it.

But, okay, to Miles' point, also, if you follow us on Twitter, if you follow David's iGuys on Twitter, you might have caught the tweet where I said I was going to start lying on this hoe. Because I'm tired of telling the truth. I'm tired of telling the truth and y'all finding out and being like, this you? We got to get you on Supermarket Sweeps, though. Is there a way we, I mean, I feel like you, the energy you have for it. Oh, absolutely.

Like, you know, people might need to get out the way. And I sit at home and I guess too, when they're doing the challenges, I'm guessing with them trying to get it before they do. I love it so much. Jaquese and I have talked about this because we would go as a team because he knows lots of random brand stuff and I can run fast and grab all the stuff.

But also he might push the cart because he can carry all the meats. Look, I've thought about this a lot. And so I'm trying to get them to do like a comedian episode where like a bunch of comedians can come on and compete. We'll see. Didn't they do that with Millionaire recently? Didn't they have like. They did. Yeah.

It was cute. Yeah. It was cute. What's her face from Modern Family. What's her name? Julie Bowen. Julie Bowen. I love that bitch.

She almost hit me with her car once. I love her. Good for her. Still you that bitch. She almost hit me with her car once. I love her. Good for her. Still, you love her. I was in Larchmont. I was crossing the street. And she stopped and she waved. She was like, ooh, my bad.

And I was like, is that the mom from Modern Family? Yeah, there you go. Also, Larchmont, why are people driving so fast? They got stop signs every fucking 40 feet. Right. It's a very foot traffic area. That's some celebrity shit to drive through Larchmont all recklessly and then be like, ooh, sorry, wave.

Even though this is not the Autobahn. Well, I would say to her credit, I was not crossing at an appropriate cross point because I'm a criminal. Wow. So I was just like, I'm across wherever I want in the street. But she should have known that. She should have known that. Yeah, she should have been paying attention. The city sends out an alert to everyone's cell phone when

you're out on the prowl. They go, Lacey's in the streets, y'all. Be careful. Scams in progress. Listen, I love jaywalking. That's one of my favorite things to do. I know about you and your ghost car that ran over your foot. You got in your Julie Bowens car. Ah, shit, you ran over my foot.

Julie, why? You're right. As soon as I saw her, I should have grabbed my neck and been like, my neck and my back. We can settle this out of court right now for 20 bucks. Wait, so on Supermarket Sweep, did they update the premise? Like, what's new with Supermarket Sweep other than Leslie Jones? So, it's pretty, the thing that I love the most about it is, like, they knew the girls wanted Supermarket Sweep. They didn't want no millennial shit.

They wanted the thing that we knew. So, they keep a lot of it very similar the only big differences that i see now are like one like the jokes are a little racier like you know like leslie jones will be referencing like megan the stallion and like talking about flirting or talking about she having a sexy night in or whatever so it's a little racier than the first supermarket sweep which was very vanilla and they have people now that she interacts with like it was just david ruprecht back in the day okay and his press khakis and you knew you were getting a button down and you were getting a dad joke if if that dad jokes were rare so now with leslie they got jokes they definitely have some writers and they have these three it's like oscillating they rotate there's like three or four people who work in the supermarket so like instead of grinding the coffee like before where

you used to have to wait and grind it and that was like it takes a bunch of time but you got like 150 bucks for it now they have a coffee barista who does it but she purposely has to like move real slow and take up like some of your time right you got you or they have like a flowers guy who moves real slow and takes up some of your time uh so there's little slight updates but it's mostly true to what it used to be and how does the show like change from episode to episode because like it seems like you would just figure out what the most expensive stuff is and always go for that like quickly what what's the like difference how do you update it for those listeners who aren't fans like you and i so how they update it from episode to episode is like

some episodes they have this thing called golden cans which are 300 and like they'll be like the golden cans are an aisle for like in the middle of your sweep so that'll kind of throw people from going to get the normal stuff also there's different strategies because you have to think about what you're physically capable of doing like some people gonna go meats and cheeses but that's a heavy ass cart and you gotta push that shit back and you gotta have stamina and you only have two minutes so there's some people who go for like caviar and light things that are very expensive some people go for diapers or or some people just try to get all of the bonuses so they so everyone's strategy is different and it stays different because people

are different which is why i love the show that's why it stays fresh it's because it's like everybody can't go run and get meat you know that's why the other one just buy a bunch of pregnancy tests they're light and they're at least 10 bucks a pop and see that's not enough you got to get something that like there's a Yeti cooler that's empty. That's $300. Oh, there is. See, I got to update my knowledge. I would have just been there.

Like he's getting a lot of pregnancy tests. He's at least 10 bucks, man. I don't think he knows how to play this game. You know, I don't see condoms in the store. I've never seen condoms. So I wonder. That might be a step to raise the store. I've never seen condoms. So I wonder. That might be a step too racy. Yeah, at the front purchase.

Oh, safe sex is too racy? I beg to differ. Netflix or who is it? The acknowledgement of sex? Yeah. What is something you think is overrated, Lacey? Underrated is the undoing on HBO. Okay.

Wait, this is underrated? Yes. I think more people need to be watching it. When I was live tweeting and I was trying not to do spoilers. You know I don't believe in spoilers. I feel like I need to put that in my bio because I'm tired of that shit. If you don't watch it when it airs, like too bad, boo-boo. This account moves at the speed of culture.

No stopping. no breaking. But I didn't see enough people tweeting about it. Like I had to go on the hashtag and just start talking to strangers, which I love to do now. But I didn't see enough people tweeting about it. That shit was so good. Like I am loving this new trend. It's not that new because Big Little Lies has been around for a while now. But of like affluent alabaster al like altercations okay and they're rich and they're white and

they're fighting and and it's a limited series and somebody dies and who did it the girls will never know like i love these series so much because they feel like television where you're not worried about the next season and trying to like tease it out and shit so you just get to it uh the undoing is only six episodes and it's a lesson in the power of white men that's all i'll say i won't spoil it but just like how we how we've been trained to love them and always be like hmm they're they're good like yeah whereas like if they were any other race, we'd be thinking they were guilty. Oh, he did that shit.

Right. Benefits of the doubt all the way down. Just nothing but. Right. What channel is it on? HBO. Oh, it's HBO. Oh, okay.

So they're finding a bit of a niche with Nicole Kidman and her wigs on HBO. Yeah. Listen, if there's one thing you're going to get from Nicole Kidman, it's going to be a woman in a bad marriage. Okay? She gives bad marriage. And I'm starting to think maybe that Tom Cruise's marriage was an inspiration. She was like, oh, no, honey, I know this in my soul. I know how to give this.

I'm really bad at the other stuff. I'm going to be honest. I was winging it in a lot of the other movies, but if you need to, if I'm a victim in my marriage or I'm locked in a prison of matrimony. Stop pop locking. She got that shit. Oh, she didn't get in here like,

she's Millie rocking. She's so good at it. Did we talk in the episode about her lobes? Her ear lobes? I think we talked about it last week, but she's got... Really it did we talk in the episode about her lobes her earlobes i think i think we talked about it last week but she's got really are they long long what do you mean yeah she has long earlobes uh that are hard not to i noticed in big little lies uh because i you know while you're noticing the wig work that goes into a nicole kidman performance uh you end up noticing her ears. She's got the fatty lobes. Yeah, she's got the big lobes.

Not the fatty lobes. Yo, I'm not joking. You could put like three, four carat diamond studs in her lobe and they would all fit. And I believe that's why it looks like that is because she has repeatedly done that. It could just be. That's how you know she's supposed to be rich. Yeah, or is it right? She's like,

I'm sorry, man. My body can't handle my drip. Literally. Yeah. It's elongating my earlobe. So, you know. That gif of her clapping where it looks like she doesn't know how to clap is actually her not knowing how to handle her drip because she has so much jewelry on that that's why she's clapping like that was because she didn't want to bang them together.

She has those delicate model long hands. Also, I love a white woman. I love a white woman who is white. You know, a lot of white women. Go on. Ah, yes. You mean not one of these Dolezals. No, I don't even mean Dolezal.

I just mean that there's been a trend with white women for so long. Like, oh, we gotta go out in the sun. We gotta tan. We gotta put on bronzer. There's nothing. I just mean that there's been a trend with white women for so long. Like, oh, we got to go out in the sun. We got to tan. We got to put on bronzer. There's nothing. I just love a porcelain white woman who's just white. And it's just, I love it. The way you say white when you're saying that is perfect.

White? She's just white. Yes, there's an H in white. You got to say the white. Okay, she's a beautiful white woman. And I love that. Also, because I'm a darker skinned black woman, so I can normally wear the same colors that pale white women can wear. So a lot of times I'll be like, oh, that lip is cute.

Let me try that. Oh, right. Yeah. So you're cheating on your homework with Nicole Kidman. Listen, and they put her in a wig, honey. They love a red wig for her. I was tweeting and this like uh got a lot of responses but i was like why don't we let nicole kidman be australian in anything

um yeah every time she'd be talking i'll be hearing that outback steakhouse pop out i'll be hearing and i'm like let's just let her be australian it's okay we know who she is when she's just gonna play like a drongo you know like just like aussie yeah she's right you're like oh fuck nicole tear it down people pointed out she was an australian in the movie australia she was not i was just gonna say that's like the one time that you could actually play australia they were like nope nope. She was British. Wow. Yeah. I remember there were some profiles of her a long time ago where she was kind of a wild, untamable badass.

I'd like to see that casting. The real Ozzy Nicole to come out? Yeah, just like real fuck you, man. I met her once, and I'm not i'm not joking she is she moves like a fucking spirit like yeah the way she walked through uh my office like we were shooting something with her and she arrived it was i don't know if it was just me like being a child of the 80s and 90s like building her up mythologically in my head to be like, oh shit, Nicole Kidman's coming to the office. Oh shit, Nicole coming through.

But she quite literally, she was walking by cubicles and it just seemed like she was gliding. Like I couldn't see her feet. Yeah, I was like, what the fuck is this? And she was very, very kind. Shout out to an Aussie God. I do love that.

Come home, Nicole. I do love when a celebrity in person has that genocide where you're just like like that it gives you a little faith like maybe some of these people actually you know are like yeah earned it yeah no i had a similar experience with tom cruise walking past him i was going. He was going up and he seemed to just like hover an inch off of the stairs and had a glow where everyone was like, God damn. He looked great. He probably even looked you in your eye and was like, hey, how you doing? Good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He knows my name now and sends me Christmas cards. Yeah. Hey, come by for that e-reading, man. Whatever you got to check. Come by for that e-reading. Lacey, what's something you think is overrated? Cooking.

Do you not like to cook? No, and I'm tired of feeling bad about that. I'm a black woman from the South. No, I do because I'm a black woman from the South, and everybody wants you to cook. And, like, I don't want to cook right now. And that's okay. So I just want to say that to people out there who are looking at everybody's posts like,

oh, I made this sourdough starter. Oh, I made, for Thanksgiving, we made this, that, and the third. Like, don't worry. It's okay to just Postmates. Postmates may be a raggedy bitch, but I be calling that hoe. I do. Yesterday, she gave me one penny off. One penny off my whole order.

What generosity. What generosity. What did you have for your Thanksgiving meal? I had more of a Caucasian Thanksgiving this year. My mom is the head cook of my household, which is probably also why I feel bad about cooking. But when I say household, I mean my whole family. My mom throws down. Oh, she is the de facto head yeah and she's like that's like taking southern cuisine and like bougie did up a bunch so it's like you're getting all you're getting the stuffing

okay tell me something don't give me details now okay yeah you're getting stuffing but you're getting chestnuts like you're getting roastednuts. Like, you're getting roasted chestnuts in the stuffing. You're getting all types of, like, just fancier elevations. You know, we never do cranberry sauce. We always do cranberry relish with a little orange zest. Oh, wow. You know, like, she's, like, elevating all of the traditional foods on the holidays. And she has, like, the most beautiful flour.

Like, she puts stuff out on, like, those tiered platters, and, like, everything is, like, beautifully displayed. She does, like, mini quiches. She does, like, mini pies. She does, like, it's overwhelming. It's very good, and I feel this pressure of, like, why don't I know how to do that? Like, I do know how, but I don't want to.

Right, it's a tremendous shadow that you're coming out from under, basically, that you're like, mm, it's actually nice in the shade. It's actually not as Right. It's a tremendous shadow that you're coming out from under basically that you're like, it's actually nice in the shade. It's actually not as hot. It's very cool here. And I'm not looking for the heat like that.

She cooks like she's feeding an army. Like we have food in the freezer. Like even this Thanksgiving, she was like, do you want me to just mail you dinner? Like I've had to travel with my mom's pies before and TSA has opened my luggage up

because they were like, what the fuck is in here? And they left a little note. And it was pie batter because my mom, people wanted my mom's pie so bad that I had to fly with them places. Pie batter? Her crust is that dope? Oh no, it's sweet potato pie batter.

The filling batter. She does some special shit with it. It's actually, it's excellent. It's excellent. I can't say it on air because some of it's a secret. Right, right, right. Proprietary secrets, obviously.

Trade secrets. But, like, she's just, don't feel pressure to cook. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look, and I was going to say, you shouldn't feel pressure. I understand you're saying you're a black woman from the South, so there's expectations. But you know what? Just like me, I don't feel pressure as a blazian to be good at golf so i don't i don't give a fuck i

tried it i sucked i got real mad i was like this was supposed to be my sport because i can't do karate and i'm not good enough to make varsity for basketball so damn sure better be this golf and then i was like fuck it comedy fucking ice hockey and then fuck it right it was funny i did ice hockey before all that and i was like i was like man i have, comedy. Fuck it, ice hockey and then comedy, right? It was funny. I did ice hockey before all that and I was like, man, I have no one to look up to in this sport. And I didn't realize I was the one the younger generation was looking up to

the whole time. Yeah, you were supposed to be the Tiger Woods. Sometimes you got to be that mirror for others. You know what I mean? When you don't have a mirror for yourself to look into. Listen, I tried to be good at golf too. i didn't try my dad loves golf and he's really good um so he bought me a set of pink golf clubs that were pink like all the handles were pink when i

was eight years old that feels on brand for you and i was and i was like girl and like he likes to do the nice courses and like the nice courses there's no golf carts you have to walk the course so i would be out there walking and i was like oh this is the ghetto like i don't wait a nice golf course doesn't have carts yeah the night like nicer golf courses usually don't have carts whoa i didn't even know that oh because like the fairways and everything are so like well manicured that they just can't have shit like Yeah. Wow. People just have people caddy for them. Damn. See, there's levels to this. I don't know anything like that.

I could tell you about a weed store that doesn't charge tax, though, in L.A. County. Yeah. You've been telling us about that. You guys got to check it out, man. I don't know how much longer they can do this shit before the city gets here. That's true. Alert and authorities. I do love a secret recipe like that i don't know my my mom has these chocolate chip cookies that she will give you the recipe and it never turns

out the way she does she when she does it and it's like what what isn't she right because i tried it because i might say it, the secret ingredient. Yeah, vanilla pudding. Yeah, vanilla pudding. And I tried, I actually did, I remember around the time I tried it also, and I was like, it was good, but it was, I don't know if it's just a mother's love is the X factor, or if it is some kind of corporate espionage where it's like, yeah, I'm going to let you know what it is, but I'm not going to let you's there's proportions of other shit yeah but that's power like the fact that you're smuggling your mom's like batter around like in your suitcase and that like my

mom needs to come like fly to the west coast to like make her cookies like because just you know right i love it it's just like Snap, Crackle, and Pop. You buy the Rice Krispie box on the back, they'd be like, here you go, girls. Y'all can make your own Rice Krispie treats. It ain't never gonna taste like ours. They definitely have a special ingredient. All right. Let's

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Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And so this has been sort of a bracing return to cold reality, Miles. You kind of did a digest of what the president has been up to since last we tuned in. Yeah.

Where to start. Yeah. It's not really changing, but it's kind of going deeper. It's going in a direction. Yeah. In the beginning, it was like, yo, what's he doing? What's he planning? What's going on?

Is this part of a larger grand strategy? And at the same time, we've also been like, this guy just is incapable of processing the fact that he lost like that's what we're seeing like all that pushback we're just like he's just rejecting the reality because that goes against his whole you know his sort of self-absorbed filter that he looks at everything through so he's like this is not useful but yeah it's now this it's it's becoming just more and more evident that he's completely, completely just like truly this narcissistic person who has rejected the results because it's it's fucking up his perception. And the only times he wants to, you know, be around people is when they're cheering for him. That's that's about the only time we enter like a shared reality with him. Other than that, it's always, I'm number one. I won.

Everybody's against me. And over the weekend, he had, or I think like, you know, he had an interesting moment where he was sitting at a very tiny desk that a lot of people were pointing out. We're like, oh, he did his own NPR tiny desk concert. desk concert um and then someone was just you know throughout this rant he did from his tiny desk he was starting to float the idea that there was all this fraud and you know it's not it was unfair i don't believe that joe biden got more of you know votes than me then a reporter you know just tried to talk straight facts and then like this back and forth was very heated, I think is indicative of just sort of where the president is. This election was a fraud. I mean, they have Biden beating Obama on Obama's vote in areas that mattered in terms of the election in swing states. And yet he's losing to Obama all over the place. But he's beating Obama in swing states, which are the

states that mattered for purposes of the election. So, no, I can't say that at all. I think it's a possibility. They're trying to, look, between you people, don't talk to me that way. You're just a lightweight. Don't talk to me that way. I'm the president of the United States.

Don't ever talk to the president that way. Don't you dare talk to your mother that way. You're just a lightweight. Okay, sir. I mean, again, this is just sort of that whole thing of this person was trying to interject by being like, you're saying bullshit again. Like, what about this? First of all, you know, that's he then aggressively just comes at this reporter. It's and he doesn't normally have like that tone.

It's always just like dismissive or just like whatever, blah, blah, blah. But this now is just like, it's like a fit. It's now where it's like getting hurt. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think he also, we've seen this is that he just thinks being president means that you are God in this country without actually earning the respect of people. And so when people are like you know just sort of giving giving back to him what he's given to other people he's like what the fuck is this don't ever talk to your father that way yeah it really sounded like you mean the presidentful and you didn't okay yeah he hit us with a bird man he was like put some respect on my name

yeah with like tears in his face though too but one thing i will say about trump that you know i'm probably gonna doubt myself because i'm telling y'all when you turn evil you live longer you sleep better uh it's just empathy is killing us all uh but trump trump lives out loud okay and for all all you college students who have that up on stickers on your wall, JK, y'all doing Zoom college, but live out loud, bro. This nigga lives out loud, okay?

Whatever he's feeling, we're going to know it. Whenever he's upset, he's going to show it. And, you know, normally some people would have, like, internal turmoil. Like, you know, that's why we like internal turmoil like you know i would like that's why we like like uh biographies and documentaries about presidents because it's like oh he was struggling with this and we never knew we know everything trump's going to everything he's like i had a bad shit this morning like why we don't need to know this 4d chess man this guy's

a fucking genius it's like no y'all don't realize you've hitched your wagon to this narcissist uh his star and it's not going up it's going down and y'all are just being like yeah like not think they're mistaking his conspiracy theories because that's his form of self-protection in his state of abject narcissism as being a grand plan to keep the GOP in power. And it's like, y'all can't even take that step to be like, first of all, why is this person talking? Whatever. We love it because it seemed to be the brand we were all in on,

and now it's just going to go bring everyone down with it. And he's gone. The other L that he took over the weekend was in Wisconsin. The campaign paid $3 million to get this recount to be like, yeah, man, wait till you see all these illegal votes. It turned out that Biden gained more votes by like 90 votes or something after they paid 90 million. And then the president's like, well, it wasn't about, it was about finding illegal votes.

Stay tuned. And it's, no. And then the anecdotal reporting is all about how the ones like on election night, he was screaming and yelling about like seeing these returns and how like Fox was already sort of had the narrative momentum that he was going to lose and he could not believe it. And he was just like coming at anybody that was in his way of just rejecting what was happening in front of him. of them and on top of it the people that he's now bringing in closer are the ones who have the least connection to like the accepted reality of this election that he has lost so uh i feel like it seems hack to compare him to hitler but like that that scene where uh in the end of downfall where like hitler loses it and everybody has like put fake subtitles over it when they update logic so logic 10 right yeah exactly 10 from like that just that seems like

dead on exactly what was happening to him is he was surrounded by people who told him whatever he wanted to hear and finally those people had to tell him the truth. And he started seeing the truth. And it was just lost all control. Yeah. Which is, yeah, not that surprising because it seems like narcissism is the cheat code to becoming the fuhrer of a country. Yeah. Right. And him turning on Brian Kemp was so funny to me because I was actually in the state of georgia when that election the governor race was happening with stacy abrams and we were block walking and you know doing whatever we could

because obviously we couldn't vote in georgia because i don't live there but i was working there and that election was if you want to talk about stolen elections like the way they set that shit up like i saw firsthand with my own eyes like there were schools where there was supposed to be voting happening and they sent the voting machines and not the plugs and like you know just shady ass shit that they did the entire time and i think trump was pissed at brian like well you stole your election you're supposed to help me steal mine what's going on yeah he's like well but we did all the shit that we we did for that one he's like but the problem is uh you're you're you're on a level of fuckery

that is unparalleled by many other candidates. So it would have to literally just be like, we'll just say we had an election and we'll just announce you the winner without even looking at the results. That's the level of election I think he wanted. And yeah, to your point, even just to pivot to Georgia,

like that's currently the state that has the, it's the entire focal point of american politics right now because of this senate runoff race and also because the president hates brian kemp and the secretary of state there and it's a very fucking weird situation we've been talking over the last week or so about like is it infighting or is this voter suppression because like on one hand it looks like they're just ripping each other to shreds and they might not get their shit together in time for this runoff, which would be great. But that also has an effect for people who are going to go support Ossoff and Warnock that it would be like, oh, well, maybe we don't. It's not as intense because these people already, you know, getting signed lined pretty rapidly. because these people are already getting signed aligned pretty rapidly.

Now that we're looking at what the president is doing, I think it can be both horrific infighting and definitely have the feelings of voter suppression, but the infighting for sure is not fake anymore. It's straight up, they're coming after each other because the president came at Brian Kemp, was tweeting over the weekend and said, why won't Governor Brian Kemp, the hapless governor of Georgia, use his emergency powers, which can be easily done, to overrule his obstinate secretary of state and do a match of signatures on envelopes? It will be a goldmine of fraud and we will easily win the state. So he was like, hi, i'm telling you the roadmap to throw away the election for me right anyone gonna do it yeah and he had a he had a kind of the longest

uninterrupted just chance to speak his mind over the weekend uh from the uh acclaimed journalist Maria Bartiromo, who was just there to let it rip. Let him let it rip. She was just like, I am out of your way, sir. You say what you need to say. Yeah. I also got an email this morning from, I signed up for all the Trump conspiracy emails just to see what they're saying. It's a fun ride. And they sent me a really sad one this morning where they were like, we are going to get

Trump back in office for another term in a very roundabout way. And it's not the way you're thinking. He's going to run again in 2024. So it's like that's where they're at, where they kind of admitted that they lost. Right. And so that Bartiromo interview really began to unsettle things because he was saying how he regrets endorsing Kemp. And essentially because he did fuck all to just flip the table on the election. But that quote was enough to basically signal to the signal to the base that kemp has to

be primaried now in 2022 it's essentially saying like you have falled out of the protective sphere of trumpism you are now diametrically opposed to it we now hate you and there are a lot of like republican operatives that were uh they interviewed in this daily beast article just being sort of being like oh yeah like he's going to be primaried like don't no one wants to be you don't want to get in your camp if you want to do like if you want the base at all so this is like where the fracturing is starting and you know now it puts kemp in this like very it's a logical ending position to be in where you're trying to stand up for yourself against the president while also deep throat in the boot at the same time. Like I don't,

it's a very weird position to be in because there was a COVID very COVID centric press conference he had where he kept Trump out of his mouth. Like he was just being like, let's just talk about COVID blah, blah, blah, blah. And then when someone finally asked like,

Hey, what do you think about like Trump and this and that? And like, what's going on with his pursuit of like the election results? He sort of gave that very milquetoast, like I support the, his pursuit of having all legal votes counted. I'm saying,

sure. Right. You say that. So he sees that. But then when he was asked about all the fallout and like lawsuits that are happening in the election, he says this quote over the last several weeks, unfortunately,

we've seen a lot of misinformation and more recently, quite honestly, basis baseless attacks. They're absolutely absurd and accusations made against myself and baseless attacks that are absolutely absurd and accusations made against myself and my family these are ridiculous they only seek to breed fear create confusion and so discord amongst our citizens so it's like he's pushing back a little bit against trump but not saying his name say his name yeah yeah it's a weird position and you know i will see what happens if people are going to stay home or not or whatever

but rana mcdaniel the chair of the rnc she went to georgia and over the weekend people were screaming in her face saying like why should we vote the elect the outcome's already determined anyway the whole thing's rigged right she was like fuck no uh it's only gonna be rigged if you give up on the process i don't she's like she looks so fucking confused like what do i say to these people right now um and i don't know if that's like you know roger stone aligned rabble rousers who are there to just kind of get those takes out and get her a little to get her to sweat but people were fucking cheering so i don't know it's it's just a very all that to say is if you live in the state of Georgia, check your fucking

registration. Make sure everybody's registered because January is the time to fucking go vote in that runoff. And vote. Don't pay attention to any of this stuff. Don't pay attention to the polls. What they say, you know, Leffler and whatever the fuck, like whatever they say is happening. Yeah, you have to go vote. whatever the fuck like whatever they say is happening like you have pretty yeah you have to go vote um that's why i love stacy abrams because listen stacy's out here she gonna get as many

votes as she possibly can yeah because it might have been a blessing that you know brian kemp stole her election because it really illuminated a lot of us including her to the fact that like oh yeah they're gonna steal it if they can they will voter suppress as hard as they can so she really went out here and hit the pavement with a lot of other black women organizers um so hopefully they'll continue to do that i mean stacy was at the cheesy versus gucci main versus in georgia telling people to vote i said this bitch not her outside of magic city getting're getting people registered look she's not playing with the girls and i love it so you know georgia please show up for us because even though it's messy they could still win this but it is kind of cool to see trump

supporters basically at this point turning against they've always been like this little dirty seedy part of the republican party where everyone in the republican party is like they're stupid but we have to like keep them on our side because like we need the votes so to see them getting to this point where they're like fuck the republican party is so interesting right and beautiful because they have been abused by the republican party they really have they they've been treated like yahoos in the middle of nowhere who are worth nothing other than you know every four years we need to rile them up with some racism and they've been suffering too so you know it's i love to see it

yeah it's just it's it's funny though like with stacy abrams right being a democrat like she responded how we want people to respond someone fucks with you you said okay i got something for you that's how you want to fucking i got something for your well just wait until fucking 20 wait just fucking wait i'll turn this motherfucker bluer than fucking snoop dogs underwear just you wait and see and you know we have leadership on like higher up at the federal level who are getting smacked around on the daily and are just like okay well i don't want to i don't want to look like a brawler here try the other cheek now like we we need the same energy because that's the that's precisely the kind of motivation and energy that we need to be even make fucking headway for working people and any kind of modicum of equality

that people are seeking is not to just be like okay well let's see what happens it's like oh that's how you want to fuck okay i i got something for your ass like we don't have enough politicians that got something for somebody on the hill and we need more people yeah exactly and just like the resolve to say i will not let this transgression stand that's what i will not exactly yeah the kemp. That's what I, yeah, the Kemp Trump, like sort of rift that's happening right now, I feel like shows us one of the ways that, uh,

the establishment is going to sort of get back in the good graces of the like mainstream media is because Trump is going to continue attacking the establishment Republicans who like don't side with him. And there going to continue to be this, you know, division within the Republican Party. I feel like the mainstream media will, you know, be like, well, Brian Kemp like did it. He stood up to Trump and like he's going to get away with shit. Like I feel like that's the way that this is going to happen. And then they'll continue to be like, is Black Lives Matter a problem for the Democratic Party? Yes, of course.

Like what the fuck are you talking about? That's the problem is that the Black Lives Matter movement is the precise thing of we will not let transgression stand. That's why there's energy behind it because it feels like something is going to come of it a lot of times you look at time yeah but it happens i mean if you talk about la specifically with jackie lacey um you know i have since as long as i can remember that i've lived in los angeles you know i've seen like marlena abdullah like people out protesting every wednesday in front of jackie lacey's office to get her ass out of office and it finally happened this year so it's like that stuff it may take time but you know just holding

on to that it's not pettiness i call it pettiness to be kind of cheeky yeah sure but like holding on to that shit and being like no we gonna get you it may take time but we don't really get that from the democratic party at large i mean we had we had Joe Biden out here tweeting all this come together bullshit. And we were like, no, we're not coming. We're not coming together. We're going to fix this shit. And this is not going back to politics as usual. That's not why we hired you.

And we're going to be on your ass, too. Yeah, it's not come together. It's come catch these hands for all this bullshit that happened. What the fuck are you talking about? Come together. Where? With who? Yeah, just tell me which parking lot

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I guess the strategy is just to be like, turn the racism up to fucking 11 and let's just see what shakes out. If we blow the speakers out, maybe some weird shit will come out and we'll find some new supporters. Those two weeks, they said there were 30 Trump campaign rallies in that period or stops.

This is analysis NBC News did from Arizona Nebraska to Pennsylvania quote in five counties that Trump visited he saw better results than he did in 2016 but in the remaining 25 his margins of victory got smaller his margin of defeat grew or the county flipped democratic so I mean he did leave him out in the cold the girls were getting bused one way and then when you got a three mile walk back to him out in the cold. The girls were getting bused one way. And then when you got a three mile walk back to your car in the freeze of cold, maybe you start thinking a little bit. Right. He's like, God damn.

He just took off in a fucking jet, like in our face like that. God damn. And I mean, you know, in Michigan, it would be like him talking shit everywhere he went. He was just talking shit about people and bringing the worst out calling ilhan omar whatever this that and the other and i think the thing that they're realizing too is it just polarized people even more it's like yes you may energize your base a little bit but having all these people come out in public and have these like racist hooting and hollering people are like off no we got to end this shit yeah and that's the thing they didn't realize or the analysis shows is like it also just

has this effect of like a him slandering the state he's in for the rally didn't help that much uh in some places like it maybe helped like in the microscopic county or precinct level but overall like it just had this effect of unsettling a lot of people by bringing the circus to town yeah yeah i mean i think that's also the answer to the thing that he was pointing out that like Biden outperformed Obama in certain counties and in swing states is like people were voting against Trump. You. Yeah, they were voting against you. You had done such a bad job like that is where that energy is coming from. That's where this energy that made you lose in places where you had a rally was coming from in a way donald i should say this you know you're right biden is not more popular than barack obama and you know what it's only because of you donald only because of you was this able to happen only because it really wasn't about biden not many people were really loving the shit out of biden

it was only because of you, so you should take that home and realize that you're not the case. Don't ever talk to the President of the United States like that ever again. Don't ever do that. Don't go to your room. No Xbox either. If I hear that shit turn on, I'm fucking, I'll turn the whole power off in the house, I swear to God. Sorry, Lacey, you were saying that's normally not

the case. That's a good point. Oh, yeah. I was just going to say that's normally not the case. Like, when you have a candidate who people hate and then you have a candidate that people are just indifferent about, the person who people hate still wins. Like Kerry versus Bush. Like we wanted Bush out, but we didn't have the numbers because people were just like, we don't freaking care about this other guy. Yeah. About this ketchup husband. We don't care about him.

So it's a deep cut for those of you who know. But he was just some ketchup oh you know um so people didn't care so it's you know when you get enough and i think with hillary it was the thing of like people were like oh okay we actually do have to come out and vote just in case uh that fear was stronger than it ever has been before because we all just assumed hill Hillary was going to win, even though people weren't excited about her. So it's like this year they were like, oh, we actually need to go vote. And with Barack Obama, it was like, oh, he's cool. He's charismatic.

He talks good. He's hot. Like, he'll win. I don't need to go vote for him. Right. Yeah. And then this year going into it, it's like, oh, y'all racist, racist. Okay.

Yeah, yeah. All right. We're coming out then. Y'all are that stupid that we actually have to come out and just try and flip these numbers yeah yeah i mean each election i feel like anytime there's you know conventional wisdom going into election it's usually bullshit because there's so few elections it's just so different each time yeah well this feels like we really could have been careening into a real race war, which black folks.

Look, have we talked about like, I guess we probably should have had a race war back in the day. But we didn't have the numbers, you know, so we did the work to just try to reform society into better, you know, morality and stop treating people horribly. But now I'm looking around and I was like, y'all really look like y'all edging towards the race war. And I'm not trying to die in a race war. Like, if we have a race war, I'm going to be on the corner handing out water and snacks. Holding the signs. Fight? I ain't fighting.

Oh, my God. I don't want to die. Okay? Y'all need a tourniquet? Y'all just pull up to 3rd Street. I'm going to be out there with the cooler. Anna sent me this meme. I think it was Anna of Mariah Carey throwing out the first pitch at a baseball game.

And she's doing it in such a diva style. And it was saying like me throwing my first grenade during the Civil War. This dainty thing. Grenade. Oh my God, y'all. Oh my God, I blew up that APC. How do I shoot a stinger? Uh-oh.

Right. It's like, I don't want to do this. I took a Blackhawk down. I don't know. Wouldn't you load the.50 cal? Let's move from white fragility in the political sphere to white fragility in the cultural sphere because we're seeing eric clapton acclaimed guitarist musician uh has joined van morrison to perform

songs railing against shutdown measures and come on jack slavery just say what's your chest man yeah basically they're mad that the government won't let them indirectly kill their old ass fan base uh with concerts like that's what van morrison is complaining about god he wants to be able to have concerts uh the the lyrics to his songs i think we've maybe covered them no more lockdowns no more government overreach no more fascist bullies disturbing our peace no more taking of our freedom and our god-given rights pretending it's our safety when it's really to enslave missed the rhyme on that last one but that's uh uh this one is really weird because it's like

yeah yeah this one so as i walked out all the streets were empty the government said everyone should stay home and they spread fear and loathing and no hope for the future not many did question this very strange move that just reads like a fucking tucker carlson like monologue yeah absolutely about to do an add-on to your house and now you can't because you can't tour yeah that's basically it uh he's worried about he keeps's basically it uh he's worried about he keeps couching it as he's worried about the live uh music venues and not his own and give him your money from your inexhaustible funds you freaking loser what are you talking about if you're concerned about it then give you do you not have excess capital that you could you could

give away charitably it's just like this idea too of like it's almost like trump too it's like it's not even like i want to talk to my fans it's like i need to get out in front of people because that's like my high that i chase even into my old age it's like i need that shit to feel alive to feel relevant for all these fucking retirees at the van morrison show yeah uh he also accuses the imperial college scientists of making up crooked facts because who would know better than van morrison so eric clapton joining that was a story from over the long weekend there was also a man booker like novelist recipient uh came out in a recent interview and said uh he wouldn't win a man booker award in today's or i guess it's just the booker prize uh in today's

quote woke environment so essentially railing against the attempt to have award recipients and the content of the material being rewarded and the humanities reflect humanity like that's that's what he's pissed off about yeah okay i mean. I mean, get mad, you know. Sorry, you you grew up on a diet of bullshit and people are getting smarter than you. And now you're like, well, this is woke. It's like, well, no, you were saying dumb, ignorant shit and couching it in academic language. So you felt like you were being, you know, just talking facts. Yeah. Right.

Also, like, I'm tired of white people stealing all our fun words. also like i'm tired of white people stealing all our fun words like woke literally just meant you woke up one day if you were black and realized how much nonsense you had been believing yourself because white people told you to right that's literally where it started like i remember waking up when i was grading my cousin's papers and he was a teacher in brooklyn and i was like chicago i can't even say these names like why are these kids names like this and he was a teacher in Brooklyn and I was like I can't even say these names like why are these kids names like this and he was like everybody's names made up and I was like oh you right he was like Sarah and Jane are just acceptable to you because white people told you and I was like oh you're right and then I had become whoa and then I just started reading more

and understanding more learning that tipping is based in slavery learning like like the fact that they didn't want to pay black workers because they wanted them to still be slaves so they were like oh we'll start this tipping process so that everyone can pay them something i guess so they can live come back to work tomorrow like just learning shit like that every day and being like but it's not this phrase that white people bastardized it into of like oh we're being mean to you because you're white it's like no you taught us a bunch of shit that was wrong because you're white our history books are just a bunch of lies and like we learned about it and now we're awakening to the fact that y'all been lying this whole time sorry or like cancel cancel used to be a fun word on black

twitter we would just be like oh she canceled and And we would laugh about it and laugh. And that was it. And now canceled is a whole rabbit hole of nonsense of old white people being afraid of their careers being ruined because they did a bunch of fuck shit. And it's like, that's not where it came from. Right. Well, it's like anything. It's like black people having fun with something. It becomes mainstream culture. And then there's a white reaction to it.

It's like, is-hop killing our children right like is woke culture destroying journalism or like is you know whatever the fucking it's cancel culture the thing it's like next you're like is your child saying no cap and what that means is your child capping news do they have a cap we're actually all wearing caps right now yes and it's and there's nothing but cap on here on this podcast as some people will say they're just capping all the time maybe we are but yeah it's just like this you know whatever and it's just funny that they have to it's always about sort of presenting themselves as the oppressed class because it seems to be like the new switcheroo it's like come on now slavery was not

fun y'all i promise yeah they had songs yeah we've had a bunch of you know what it is but the shit wasn't fun it's the same way but it's like this disingenuous way of like looking at the outcries and complaints of like people of color indigenous people in this country who have actually been on the shitty end of american oppression colonialism and are being like, fuck, see, that's why they get to do that, because that happened to them. See, we need that to happen to us,

and then when we say this stuff, people will have to treat it seriously, because then we can say it's happening to us, but without actually seeing the nuance and realizing you're part of the dominant part of society. You are the oppressive class just by default. So it's going to, maybe in like 70 years 80 years when like white people truly maybe are like a minority and they're like you see what they're doing us

they canceled the hallmark 25 days of christmas festival you know what i mean like i don't know what that's gonna look like but yeah there will come a time where that tipping point does occur and maybe they will be able to be like look at we're trying to preserve our culture in the anger and in the just irrationality you can see like they there's a part of them that knows like there's a dissonance there where they you know they they're able to write novels that are you know coherent in their ideology and not outwardly racist. They can put together a worldview

that does not cohere with this bullshit that they're talking about. And part of them realize this, and that's why they're pissed. That's why they want to be the victim, and they know they're not. And yeah, I don't know. I've been reading all this like CIA black

ops history this book the Jakarta method and it's like so much of like this cultural hegemony that they've been like benefiting from for the past century is built on like actual like brutal

black ops and the blood of innocent people around the world like the the western like yeah straight up like this it's just like brutal like the the the idea that a person a british author or a irish author would have the balls to be like like it's not fair to me like at this point after like having won the booker prize years earlier like if he knew the truth or like had like some sense of history he should be like offering to give that back not like complaining that he can't get a second one um but and i think part part of him realizes that, and that's where this fucking bullshit comes from. Well, let's talk about, just round it out, the white fragility watch with the crown. Some people are demanding.

Netflix put a, quote, health warning at the top of the show. I'm sorry, health? Health. Health. Health. Indicating that it's a work of fiction, though. It's not actually clear how like absorbing a dramatized version of the life of the queen and her family would actually impede your health. Obviously.

Also know that speak for yourself. Right. This is making me sick. Yeah. Half baked. Got me to smoke weed. so don't tell me about how fiction can affect you in the real world the culture uh secretary is who is making this complaint uh writing to netflix this week to express his concerns um yeah and what that

wait wait what is the dispute over essentially that they just don't like that it's like they're taking liberties with our history sort of thing yeah just saying they make charles look like a bitch because he is a bitch and now charles is getting all types of shit exactly it's so funny to get on twitter and be like prince charles is a bitch like just to see that phrase like anybody who's done research into him it's it is like the definition of fragile like hot house flower who like just can't be allowed to interact with the outside world in any unmediated way because he's just completely like on a different planet uh when i tell y'all they dragging him by them ears honey they, they are dragging Charles this season.

And, you know, there have been reports that Queen Elizabeth has seen the previous seasons of The Crown and was like, well, I liked it. And then this season she was like, okay, y'all dragging my son too much. Like, we got to turn this off. No, this is cap. This is all cap. This is cap. It's all cap. With a feather even.

Health Minister, write to Netflix and tell them to please cease the capping at once. Like, it's such nuanced shade that you can't not watch the fourth season of The Crown and just be like, I fucking hate Prince Charles. And they know that. Like, there's a moment with Charles and the Queen where Charles is showing his new manor in Gloucestershire that he's living in with Princess Diana to his mother. And he starts describing, like, how he wants the garden to feel like him and his vibe. And he started going on and on. And the queen on the show, she started looking around like, bitch, what else? Like, I'm bored.

Like, when I tell you they take every opportunity to be like, this nigga sucks. Always paint him like that, like, boo fool i mean yeah i wonder do you think maybe it was prince he's like mommy they're just they're going in on me on this netflix show she doesn't even care she's like oh fine there's a lot of people there's a whole like we were talking about we have a industry of like celebrity gossip like journalists and paparazzi, and they have a whole wing of that in England that is portrayal of prince charles's fishing technique is not correct it makes him look less manly i guess uh and the drama confuses i mean that that definitely feels like something that came directly from him but i feel like culturally they got the whole they've internalized it they yeah they think that is like a reflection of them because the monarchy itself is just fragile in that sense you know like it's it's all built on like divine right

of it was all fucking vaporware from the beginning it's like well we have the most money and we'll just kill anybody who disagrees with us and then you get that momentum going into now and it's like this there's like this sense of like no one shall shade the throne and it's like yeah well what's this we're living in a new era i'm gonna make a fucking show about you and now they don't know what the fuck to do like they're truly like it's their whole thing is like it's going to fuck up people's perception of this this family like and that's why we need this warning on there because there's so this was like a third rail thing like no what the fuck y'all doing? Right. I mean, why do you guys think that Queen Elizabeth hasn't died yet?

Like, the girl was like, I can't leave this shit to Charles. Like, he is going to ruin it. She's like Ruth Bader Ginsburg. She's like, I can't just not quite yet. I'm sorry. Right. She's holding on till Charles dies. The second she's sprinkled that dirt over his little grave in the church, she's going to be like, all right, y'all lay me down too.

I'm good. As a mother, you hate to see it. finally there are those rumors there are rumors that have been floated that he's gonna abdicate and let uh william take over like just go from elizabeth to william and you know she planted those rumors she's like of course she did you know it would be a good idea actually because your son you know who looked like he's done a couple push-ups you know what i mean maybe he should be the king i don't know charles i don't know maybe that's just me now please come grind your mother's corns but right just like charles you can either do that or you know so one of these days that tea may not be tea in the way you think it is you know what i mean like something might happen to you you know what i mean other complaints from this cultural minister the drama confuses

show jumping with eventing and hickstead with badminton no wonder the horse of hound set are choking on their gnts uh and wait i'm sorry what was the sentence you said yeah say that again show jumping uh horse an equestrian event with eventing. And then Hickstead, which I think is a sport, with badminton. I'm having trouble saying badminton,

but that's the word. I think that's what fucked it up. Hickstead is a horse? I think they're saying that they confused a badminton-like game with Hickstead is a horse? Oh no, I think they're saying that they confused a badminton-like game with Hickstead. Oh. But that's

what they think deserves the warning. We thought white people were frazzled in the US. God damn. They're like, our guns and shit. They're like, and they're mixing up Hickstead with

Badminton Badmonte like I don't give a fuck what are you talking about so producer Anna Hosnia so producer Anna Hosnia

uh informs me that I can say badminton I don't have to say badminton yeah badminton holes up in my mitten

it's the bad mitten. Okay. Dad jokes. So I watched one episode of the show, the first episode. So one of the complaints is that the queen wasn't saluting properly. Have you seen any of the series, the way the queen salutes? She's like, her hand is asleep. Yeah, Elizabeth. I always feel like it's this thing, like just rotating the wrist.

Oh, that's another one? This another move? Weird hand move. What's the one you're doing, Jack? It's like she's like cuffing some balls or like. Yeah, or like unscrewing a whimsical light bulb. Yeah. Yeah.

So that happens in the first episode. The king goes out and does that. And then Elizabeth goes out and does that. And that was the moment where I was like was like oh this is all just the authors and the creators of this show just like projecting human emotions onto people who are absolutely empty and like just completely from another planet because like nobody nobody could possibly wave like that and be a normal person. They make them seem normal and they're like, oh, but I'm in love.

And then my dad wants this and this is happening and I'm worried about my health. But then they go out and wave like that and it's just like, come on. That is an inhuman act, that wave. Also, shout out to The Crown for coughing up blood every season. You're going to get somebody coughing up blood. There's always a white napkin reveal.

Literally the first thing that happens in the show is a cough up blood. A reveal. Then he keeps it to himself. We don't talk about that trope. I think we talk about it on this show but just the coughing to a napkin seeing it and then folding it

and then tucking it away as somebody walks in the room no no everything's fine everything's good and the plans for your 9th birthday are coming along swimmingly yes yes yes yeah it's a wild show based on one episode.

Lacey, are you caught up on this? Oh, yeah. I fully was. I devoured it. Oh, my God. There's a scene where you just see someone cleaning a chair for way too long. The shit is boring, but it's good because I don't know. How it's shot, the directing is great and the actors are great.

But it's like the scandal will be like, she needs a tutor. That's an hour episode. Like what? Right, right. Like, fuck. Really? But I love it. I loved it.

Yeah, yeah. Also, the other show that could use a trigger warning is Queen's Gambit. Oh, yeah. We talked about that. Yeah. The alcoholism and drug abuse. Like, they just make it. It's just.

They made it so cute. A fun bump in the road. They made it look like what, yeah, what I thought doing drugs and alcohol was when I was 16. Right. And then she just. Like, yeah, dude, you go to, like, the next level when you drink and do drugs. She's not in recovery. Exactly.

Like, what? And then recovery is her just deciding not to do it. So maybe put a trigger warning on that. She needed no help. She needed no help. She needed to talk to no one. She just decided her way out of it. I'm good, actually.

Sorry, y'all. I was wilding. I don't know what that was about. Anyway. And emotional revelations. I feel like that's the big thing that people misunderstand about recovery is that you're going to have a revelation where it's like, my mom was mean to me, and that's what...

Yeah, yeah. Newsflash. That's everyone, no matter how good you always have some form of that. That ain't it. Well, Lacey, as always, such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Thank you.

Where can people find you and follow you? You guys can find me on the interwebs at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I-D Valacey on all platforms. If you like scams, robbery, and comedy, you can listen to my podcast, Scam Goddess, on all platforms.

I just have to say this before I go out. Nate Robinson getting beat by jake paul feels like racism he had to prepare nate robinson wasn't ready this man was like fucking dolph lundgren jake paul was in a fucking lab like just working so hard he's like i'm gonna fucking prove i'm just like the shittiest bro on earth nate robinson oh you hate you really have been through enough we've been through enough in 2020 we lost chadwick boseman we did not deserve this uh does he he went to sleep he was sleep the the like 10 feet before hitting the ground it was

really did you see the video where they put the windows 95 on him, and it was like he got hit, and it was like, doo-doo-doo-doo. Oh, shit. I have not been that upset about a piece of news that didn't affect me in any way whatsoever. Well, because no one's rooting for Jake Paul except for his fans. Everyone else on Earth is like, please lose. So it felt like fucked up karma for him to like be victorious although going into that fight i'm like ah nate robinson doesn't seem very dedicated to like this fight i think he thinks he's gonna go on like the strength of being like i'm nate

robinson i have a throat tattoo and you know going up against some dude who's i don't know if he's doing peds man i will get that checked out i don don't know. Yeah, for sure. And you know, like the side of the equation who is calling for that fight because it's such a random matchup. It's like somebody knew something. And I'm guessing it was Jake Paul who was like, hey, let's box. You know, it's like, yeah, you never want to fight the guy who like really wants to fight. That's usually a bad sign.

Yeah. Yeah. You want to spar because the second you start throwing haymakers, bro, I'm not getting in this ring with you. No, no, no, man. I'm good. I'm good. Let're like, yo, yo, yo. You want to spar? Because the second you start throwing haymakers, bro, I'm not getting in this ring with you. You're like, no, no, no, man. I'm good. I'm good. Let's go, bro.

Let's go. Just fucking friendly box, man. Just fucking friendly. Friendly, friendly, friendly. And they just come hitting you with the, ooh. Yeah, not a good one. I feel like, look, we just need to get the right person in the ring, and then we can all celebrate on new Christmas

is when we see Jake Paul just get knocked the fuck out. Yeah. Tyson. Maybe bring him. just get knocked the fuck out. Yeah. Tyson, maybe bring him. That'll be the rematch. That's what we need. Why don't you fight somebody who really... Jake Paul probably, in his mind, he's like, I can fight anybody now.

I fucked up Nate Robinson who was in the NBA. He said Mayweather. He said, yeah, in a street fight. Okay. You're not going to connect a fucking punch on Floyd Mayweather. He said, yeah, in a street fight. Okay. You're not going to connect a fucking punch on Floyd Mayweather. He could fight with his head. His head work will fuck you up. Right.

Oh, I would love to watch that. I mean, Floyd Mayweather did feel some type of way about it because he came out and was like, hey, man, leave Nate Robinson alone. Leave Nate alone. Yeah, it really was because, I mean, yeah, you hate to see it. out was like hey man leave nate robinson alone you know like don't i'm not gonna yeah like it really was because i mean yeah you hate to see it but people were like just reveling in it he was like just don't kick a man when he's down hopefully that can be uh floyd mayweather's stacy robinson losing to brian kemp in the gubernatorial election for them to be like you know what jake paul i will i am ready and i hope you are too uh lacy is there a tweet you've been enjoying yes i just went to my twitter to find that this is from at tinker with four r's underscore

and she says food be in the microwave hollering and don't even be hot i don't know why that made me chuckle i mean they're pop pop popping and you think it's going to be sweat-dry, and it's cold on the bottom. So, yes. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? You can find me on Twitter and Instagram, at Miles of Grey,

and also 420 Day Fiance, the other podcast, talking 90 Day Fiance. This tweet is from Bethy Squires at Bethy BSQU. She tweets, all the Quibi billboards have become Saved by the Bell billboards. Nature is healing. Yeah. You know? It's true. It's like from one rotting corpse emerges a flower.

It's the circle of life. That was such a huge L. But shout out to all my friends who got their paychecks before that shit went down. I was like, I better go to the bank now. Cash some checks. Make sure they clear. Yeah. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

A tweet I've been enjoying. Haley Kiefer tweeted, Most people don't know that when Adam Sandler says Shabba Doo it's actually a portmanteau of shopping to do and they don't know that because it's not true find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien

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ride out on. Miles, what are we riding into the afternoon upon? Oh, well, let's take it to jolly old England, shall we? This is Lord Apex with OKHO. It's called Cruisin' with the Lights Off.

Prince Charles' favorites. Yeah, just some nice sample-based hip-hop from London. It has, like, I don't know. It's cool. I love a good sample with some trappy hi-hats behind it. It feels like the intersection of, like, golden era boom-bap hip hip hop with a little bit of trap and then a little UK slang in it.

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