The Daily Zeitgeist - Don’t SHOW Gay, Woke Mob Or Broke Mob? 05.09.22

Episode Date: May 9, 2022

In episode 1243, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of NBA Finals File, Jabari Ali Davis to discuss… What rights could be next? Well let’s see where the fear mongering is…, Chappelle Attack: Feels Like Things Get Metabolized by the Media As Culture War Anger and more! What rights could be next? Well let’s see where the fear mongering is… Chappelle Attack: Feels Like Things Get Metabolized by the Media As Culture War Anger LISTEN: Whittier Blvd by JarrenSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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A lot of people are saying this one, you know, a lot of buzz for 235, but 236, they're saying this is the one. This is it. This is going to be the best ever. I remember people were like, man, how are they going to best 221? That's right. Well, look, we did. Yeah, I think we answered that question.

Anyways, this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it's Monday, May 9th, 2022, which, of course, means it's National Sleepover Day. Yeah. Although the description is very gendered, though. Yeah. Although the description is very gendered, though. Like when you read the description of National Sleepover Day, it says it provides an opportunity once again for girls to confide in their friends in a way that can be inspiring, therapeutic and confidence building. You act like we didn't do sleepovers, too? Sleeping in our basketball shorts? I think we talked about the sleepovers we did before when we were talking about that Madison Cawthorn

clip. Oh my god. Yeah, exactly. The jackassery. The jackassery. But anyways, shout out to Sleepovers of the Best. It's where I got to see most of my favorite movies for the first time. That's so true. Die Hard,

Terminator. Hell yeah, man. watching that shit at like age seven yeah in the still of the night of a sleepover that's when real real realizations are had exploration begins got exposed to junk food got exposed to a friend who whose family had like just donuts for breakfast i did not know donuts could be a just straight up the entirety the entire question to what oh yeah answer to the question of like what are we gonna do i remember going to sleepover and then the parents were like yo y'all want that pizza from last night and they're like yes and i'm like god i'm like no wonder he's so happy at school his parents don't give a fuck. But yeah, shout out that.

And I get it, too, even from their perspective. Like, I'm not about to feed fucking five just sturdy little 11-year-olds here. Eat that pizza for my snack. Go ahead. Anyways, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. When we're reporting, we whisper stuff so you're not stressed out. Rich as a creases, our only thesis is it's not your fault. MP go are like a whispered fire alarm.

MP go are big plans. We know you got none. That is courtesy of Rachel has the mic. Shout out to Rachel as the mic. Yeah. Yeah. Coming on the scene with the song about you know we've been we've been speculating about where npr's very strange tone comes from we think it's

a mixture of like opportunity seizing the opportunity of being the first news network that is like you know people seem to really like this asmr stuff and they also feel horrible about the state of the world anyways i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray yes it's miles gray aka smoke that weed smoke that weed smoke that weed smoke that weed i just i just came up with that you are the same boy you used to be It turns out Isn't that what that says after that? I'm the same boy I used to be

On that song Call On Me? Yeah I'm the same boy I used to be Oh okay yeah yeah Good okay that all works now I like that There we go Shout out

Was that Ray was the artist, I think? Steve Winwood, I thought. Am I? Well, no. Okay. That's the original. Got it. But there's like a hardcore, like massive dance anthem that has that just on a floor on the floor.

Just call on me. Call on me. Anyway, that's how that goes. I'm just learning that it's Valerie. Call on me. Call on me anyway that's how that goes i'm just learning that it's valerie call on me call on me valerie damn come on steve we just want to hear you say come and see yeah there you go anyways miles we're thrilled to be joined by a very funny and talented writer and podcaster who's the producer and writer of a show called This Can't Be Right. Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties? Bousties. He's also the co-host with Big Shot Bob

Worry of the NBA Finals file. The God. A lesser podcast collaborator than those other two. Also one of the best followers on Twitter. Please welcome back to the show Jabari Ali Davis! Jabari! Yes, yes. It is me, a.k.a. Shug Nice. I tried to get a new one, but nobody bit.

The gentleman from Tenesto. And it matches your voice now, too. Like, you got the kind of... Actually, I've never heard Suge Knight talk, I don't think. You don't remember the Source Awards? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But is his voice as deep as Jabari's? Is anyone's? It is pretty deep.

I actually have a Suge Knight story for you if you want it. Come on, man. I'm going to say no. Let's just say one time I had some legal troubles. I was at the Van Nuys Courthouse. I was walking along the corridor. Anybody that's familiar with the Van Nuys Courthouse, the backside corridor. And I looked to my left and all of a sudden Suge Knight is right next to me? Now, everybody jokingly calls and affectionately calls me Suge Knight, but I can tell you that is a large man.

Towering over me, but he looks at me, and I'm going to edit this, but he looks at me and he goes, what's up, Lil' Nick? And I said, I am 25, but thank you. That takes confidence to correct. Oh, no internally i said i i said what's up and i held the door for him

did you sprint ahead to hold the door for him right this way sir oh man yeah i mean i guess you do defer to somebody who's gigantic like that and yeah but what in that in that period in my mid-20s i would have been like yep and i'll agree to whatever you're saying to me right now come to death row okay i will i'm not a rapper though come to death row death row. Oh, okay. I'm there. Speaking of you being one of the best followers on Twitter, on Friday, you retweeted, I guess it was the anniversary of the Allen Iverson soundbite meme, sports media meme, where he says practice. And everyone's like, he doesn't care. Hold on. We're sitting here.

I'm supposed to be a franchise player. And we're talking about practice and you uh tweeted out the the context that gets cut out of that and not just like you know people don't tell the story of what was what was going on they cut out like what he says immediately after that and well what always bothered me about it actually i shouldn't say always because i was guilty of falling right in line with just making fun of it, laughing at the moment. But a couple of years down the road, I saw the full conversation or press conference. And he's basically saying, guys, we just lost. My best friend just died yesterday. And we're sitting here talking about practice but that's not you know that wasn't

how it was framed and that certainly wasn't how it was you know how it was reported and unfortunately you know his the conversation and the narrative surrounding him you know was very negative as a result of it yeah and it took it it took a turn for him you know like and it's it's wild how much yeah like you said i was like yeah man we supposed to to be, you know, we saw the remixes and shit. I'm like, I love it. Like, this is, Alan is doing whatever. But then, yeah, it wasn't until maybe three years ago, I was like, oh, his best friend died then? Right.

Oh, shit. And then you realize how much shit, I mean, this happens so often, like, in the media. Like, it's just so easy to just lop off of soundbite. And then we just take that into reality with no empathy or anything like oh wow and that clip too you see him like he's he's crying on the bench yeah yeah but for context also that was at a time where unfortunately we didn't honor or respect when men showed vulnerability or actual emotion and things of that nature you know we we would point the finger or make light of it so right same era where shack with himself was saying i was depressed but i did not have the vocabulary

or the will to use words like that because it was just not the time for things like that which is wild too yeah yeah fortunately we've moved on from that and now when a player cries after having a game-winning shot put in their face like a joel m beat everyone just respects his emotions and nobody replays that over and over again everybody's just happy for him when good things happen to who him oh wait wait that's in the cockpit so this this plane is flying in a different direction but i do like that is one of my favorite things about the show we make together is that there is a lot in sports because people have one team and there are 90 something percent of the other of the nba teams are the team you're not rooting for so there's a lot of like people

just waiting they're like i hate that person because they made me feel bad once and they're ready to jump on it. And there's a lot of toxicity in sports fandom. But the NBA podcast that we do, Miles and Jack, I'm at Boosties. We just we're trying to be for the joy. All right. This will not be an all NBA podcast. This episode of Daily Zeitgeist, I just wanted to shout out you know what a great

job you do on twitter and how good our our podcast is together but moving on from that we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about today we're gonna talk about what rights could be going down next with the row leak the road decision come down in slow motion towards us. And then we're going to talk about the, you know, as details have emerged of the Chappelle attack and people who were there that night. And then, you know, the media echoes. I just want to want to talk about where we're at because it seems to be fitting in with a pattern where inequality the problems that we talk about a lot on this show fuel some horrifying act of violence and then

it gets metabolized by the media as like culture war anger so i just want to talk about that plenty more but first jabari we do like to ask our guest What is something from your search history? Well, honestly, most of what I've been researching lately Is footage and background for the finals file But truthfully, the very last thing that I searched was this morning It was Steven Seagal running Because it was pointed out on another podcast And even though I've seen all of his 80s and 90s films

I'm pro sleepover by the way as well. Even though I saw most of them, for whatever reason, it never stood out to me. But needless to say, it absolutely did not disappoint. I encourage you guys to do it. And since he's a pretty reprehensible individual, allegedly, I don't feel guilty about laughing at it. It basically looks like he runs

with someone else's arms attached to his body. Really? Yeah, that's exactly what it is. He's such a sleepover all-star he only wears pajamas now. This dude just walks around in the most comfortable of clothing. Oh, yeah. He run like a

brand new out-the-box Terminator. Yes. Or like a baby giraffe. In my mind, that makes me think of the T-1000 who runs in a very like, yeah, with his arms. Whereas Steven Seagal's arms

don't really know what to do. It's his first shift. That's what I'm saying. He's new. He's new. He's new to this. He hasn't fully been like, no, I'm on my T-1000. His arms haven't been working on. You guys remember that old 90s movie Body Parts where think it was like jeff fahey was in it and they like gets into a car crash and then they put his body back together with other with with like the body parts of a murderer and they're not you know they're not i remember the poster for this

film that was a bunch of limbs with cables coming out of it yeah that's basically what he looks like okay yeah that makes sense yes that's the premise of so many movies where it's like i gotta so i have the kid the eyes in my head now of a murderer and i have never never all that successful but that's a challenge to anyone was this like in an era where like transplant surgeries were like becoming more like survivable and like useful? So then someone, you know, some coked out writer is like, dude, what if like you got fucking murder arm? Well, it comes from us from the original coked out writer, Mary Shelley. Oh, sure. With the original Frankenstein.

For some reason, we're going to go back to the Bible. The original Coke Outrider. The original God. I think a lot of people stole the idea from that well-known documentary, Face Off. Right, exactly. Shit, what am I talking about? It hasn't been done well. It's been done perfectly.

But that's more like, that's less of like, does this foreign appendage or organ affect who you are yeah it never takes over their body in fact the it was it's just them in a great disguise but they are 100 themselves other than some parts where nick cage as john travolta is like looking in the mirror and is like, so like his reflection is messing him up. Idle hands? There was that one with Devin Sawa? Yeah, there's a lot of them. There's a lot of them. But that was more of like a possessed hand that he had.

Yeah, that's kind of what I'm talking about is like the possessed hand, the possessed eyes, the possessed what? There was a VHS box that made me think Steve Martin might have starred in one. But maybe the man with two brains. I don't actually know what that was about. It's been a while. It's been a while.

What is something you think is overrated? All right, let's keep the tradition going because I usually make trashed who takes on here. Most fast food chicken uh and before this comes across as gatekeeper i i look i i know miles this might this might this might uh this might you know poke you a little bit but i'm not trying to come across as a gatekeeper and i'm not trying to yuck anybody's yum but basically if you think that raising canes is quality because you take you can slime unseasoned chicken with mac big sauce. I'm here for you to enjoy it. All I'm saying is those of us that grew up with, you know,

homemade fried chicken and, you know, from Southern family. Well, maybe you didn't come from the South. My family, we came from the South. Those of us that ate real fried chicken and can actually make it, we kind of scoff at it. I feel for all of you. What did you think? Did you see Paula Patton's chicken?

I did see it. And I, you know, okay. So this is the thing. I Patton's chicken? I did see it. Okay, so this is the thing. I do my best. I did not see it. Can you explain it? Oh, wow. She seasons the oil. She puts the chicken in the flour, puts it in the oil, and then pours the seasoning in the oil.

And then doesn't cook the chicken to its totality. It's about two-thirds done. to its totality. It's about two-thirds done. And then she even, did you see her follow-up video after everybody was absolutely destroying her? I actually felt for her because I was like, you know what? I don't want to add to this, but I kind of have to.

But she basically said, hey, it's my mom's recipe. I don't know what to tell you. I thought she'd be like, yeah, my best friend just died. She absolutely trashed her mom on that one. I mean, that was criminal to watch. best friend just died she did you know she absolutely trashed her mom on that one i mean that was criminal to watch and the black tiktok reactions to that video were gave my give gave me life beyond the years i could imagine but it it was the kind of thing jack you saw like

there was no seasoning to to begin seasoning something when it's already in the frying oil i have never heard or seen of that as a cooking technique. Like, I know you could maybe put some vegetables and stuff in your seasoning in the pan, but like proteins to season proteins in the. What? Anyway, I do. But yes, I would say this. I like Raising Cane's because it's the best of the fast food. But in no way, I'm like, this is peak chicken finger because yeah that's

there's there's a lot better out there i think it also bothers me that they don't have anything else like you go there and it's like nope we're this this is so good we don't need anything else like well why reinvent it was like no no throw something else in the mix but yeah but yeah we don't really have really any in southern california or at least not like in la la there's one in burbank that's been teasing to be opened i know jackie's has been keeping his eye on that place and counting down the days whether or not we're gonna have it but yeah i've never had it i've never had raisin on it right now oh you haven't had raisin canes yeah i mean it's i think the the thing for people is like oh oh, the comeback sauce. They got their own, their cane sauce. And really like, look, we're just mixing ketchup, mustard, ketchup, mayonnaise, and some seasoned salt and a few other things. And you're good.

It's all big back sauce. Yeah. And do they use like breast meat? I feel like that's my main complaint with fast food chicken is too often. They're just like taking a big whack of breast meat. And, you know, it's not, there's so many good parts of the chicken. Is it the tender? It's absolutely that.

And again, unseasoned. So it's like, you know, again, but look, I challenge anybody that likes it. Eat it without that sauce and see if you like it. Yeah. There's a whole genre of like cultural things that have come to us from drunk people at college. like cultural things that have come to us from drunk people at college because wasn't wasn't raising canes like originally like a college thing like a college town phenomenon and then it like spread out from there oh i'm like i just discovered that frisbees come to us from like drunk bored students throwing pie tins around and you know it's just like that is it's not always the highest

of culture that that we get out of drunk bored college students although kind of also how basketball got invented so right right well i don't know if they're college students but it was basically like bored kids and he was like all right i i'm going to make up this game to keep you from jumping on each other and humping each other's heads or whatever. Whatever the kids do. In general though, in LA, I don't know if it's like this around the country, but

I feel like we have hit peak fried or hot chicken. Yes. The fucking cup is fully running over. I feel like when i walk through a new business like hey blah blah blah it's hot chicken i'm like what is this what is here do y'all think this is you're late already and now every it's like when the cupcake wars happened in la and they were like oh there's just this proliferation of cupcake places and then it had

to contract and now i feel feel like everybody in their family is starting a hot chicken place or chicken finger place, and only a handful of them do it well. James Franco's Hot Chicken is my new favorite restaurant. No, I just made that up. Oh, I was like, oh. I was just trying to think of the most random person. Most infuriating person.

Yeah, I was like, what the fuck do we have to do with? He's dipping his toe into that one huh yeah exactly what is something you think is underrated keeping the tradition going we're going to do a makeshift anna's uh streaming corner love life 2 have you guys seen that love life 2 no hbo video game hbo max hbo max it's starring william harper jack. For anybody that doesn't know who he is, it's Chihiti from The Good Place. Oh, yeah, yeah. I don't know what it was about this one. Honestly, it's basically just relatable to any of us that dated in our 30s.

It hit on every level. Underrated because, for example, neither of you guys have even heard of it. Every time I bring it up to somebody, they go, really? Love Life? I'm like, yes, really. Trust me. It's fantastic. The name is also a little bit too close to 35 reality shows for me to distinguish.

Oh, right. Same. I was like, wait, do I know about this reality show, Love Life? And I got one more for you. Southside. Have you guys seen that oh yeah yeah yeah okay all right well yeah then i don't have to explain it i don't even have to go into it but basically if you don't take yourself too seriously and you can laugh at stuff and you're not easily

offended it's absolutely perfect it's like such a good working class perspective comedy and i just love that like it's the problems are so real yes Yes. And it's not like, you know, you can just tell it's written from like the like a grounded place rather than people like, I don't know, what would this world be like? The writers have absolutely worked retail before. Oh, yeah. And any of us have. Yeah. Basically, every single scenario that comes up, it's like, oh, yeah, I've seen that. I can see that taking place.

Yeah. Yeah. OK. It's like, oh, yeah, I've seen that. I can see that taking place. Yeah, yeah. Okay. And we have already received a legal notification from Super Producer Ana Hosnia's lawyers because of the use of the name of her trademarked segment. So we'll just have to steer clear of referencing it at all. Yes. But that is a great recommendation of a online content piece. Yes.

That's what I'm here for. The other thing, though, to your point about like love life and how we don't know about it. I honestly the because of the proliferation of streaming services so much we are beyond the pace at which things are coming out. I'm I've given up like I'm like I've reached that place where like you get older and you're like, man, I can't keep up with like the new, the young shit anymore. That's how I feel with streaming shows. I'm like, yo, bro,

I'll die here. I'll die in 2015. That's fine. Netflix has already canceled another eight shows and, and, and released another 15 during this conversation. So, yeah,

I feel like because it was, it is recent as the like beginning of the pandemic when it felt like man there's not enough on we have tiger king right and then like there's this jordan documentary coming in like two months that we're already talking about does not even out yet like that feels like a different universe right keep in mind at that time it was so bad they moved up the dock Like it wasn't supposed to come out until I think like July and they had to, they had to push it up and they weren't even, they weren't even done with it. They were completing it at, you know, like as it was being, you know, being aired.

So the fact that we were all collectively watching tiger King and they had to, you know, Russ, the Jordan doc probably tells you as recently as two years ago. Yeah. It was not this extreme. Yeah. I, I, I feel like they are now making content for that moment and unfortunately it's like no we're there's movies now and basketball and other things and our lives have started again but they yeah now now i almost feel like attacked by the amount of like interesting streaming content that's coming out. In May, just thinking of the things

that you can watch on probably streaming or theaters, you got the Top Gun movie coming out, a Bob's Burgers film coming out, Obi-Wan Kenobi series coming to Disney+, Stranger Things Season 4, Chippendale Rescue Rangers coming to Disney+, the Angeline... That's a John Mulaney Lonely Island joint, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think we talked about the trailer on Trends or just like a bunch of tropes about animation. I was going off of Jabari's confused face is why you were including that with like all these. No, no, no, no. But that's the thing that if I heard as an elder millennial, I'm like, what Chippendale? Like, that's the thing that at i heard as an elder millennium like what chippendale like that's the thing that at least i was like that's being made like that's how my reaction to these things are there's that there's an angeline series on peacock coming out there's like hacks season two there's like kids in the hall like entire catalog i think is coming to amazon prime doctor strange just came out the new new Star Trek show. There's like

the new Staircase series about the staircase. There's just so many things in May alone. That used to feel like at least three months worth of shit. Easily. And for the record, my reaction to Chip and Dale's is because I was a Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers fan.

Montana Jack was my guy. 100%. Yeah, I was too. Chip and Dale's Rescue Rangers fan. Montana Jack was my guy. 100%. Yeah, I was too. I was too. Dale's Rescue Rangers. When there's danger. I'd say half mornings that, half of the mornings I wake up, that is the song that's going through my head.

Like no explanation. For no reason. Yeah. None. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk news.

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unimaginable than it ever has at this point and so what one question i think a lot of people have is like what rights could be next based on based on this opinion that was right because yeah like we were talking about last week the logic that justice alito is essentially laying out is like well the constitution doesn't mention women or the word abortion. So which is terrifying when you consider how many of our current rights and laws are not in the Constitution verbatim. Yeah. And many have said, you know, same sex marriage could be next. And I'm not sure how quickly they're going to go for like a full scale, like just like rapid repeal of like all of these laws. Because I know at the same time, you can tell the Republicans are struggling with this or how they just cannot use the word abortion out loud right now. They're like the leak or something.

So now you got to just kind of look at where a lot of this energy is swirling. And you can tell that there's a lot of homophobia in the tank uh with the gop right now and just recently last week there was a letter from just a few distinguished shitbag senators from utah kansas north dakota and indiana uh they are coming at the tv ratings people like you know when you put a tv show on it says pg or like y7 or whatever ma yeah go coming at those people leaning on them saying hey we need to have a meeting and we need to talk because, I don't know if you heard about all this LGBTQ stuff

out there, but we were asking is maybe you need to create some kind of new rating or category that alerts homophobes to the presence of LGBTQ characters or themes. And this letter, I mean, it reveals a few things. It reveals how they, what they, you know reveals how they even view anyone who's not cis, quote, many, many, many LGBTQIA

plus characters in our stories. To the detriment of children, gender dysphoria has become sensationalized in the popular media and television with radical activists and entertainment companies. The radical and sexual sensation not only harms children, but also destabilizes and damages parental rights. They talk about how they're going against the don't say gay bill about the, you know, bans classroom instruction on sexual orientation or gender identity. And they go on to say sexual orientation and gender identity instruction often entails a discussion concerning an individual's pattern of emotional, romantic, and sexual attraction. Yeah. That's, that just sounds like you're learning some facts. Right. But let's not, again, forget that conservatives, as it relates to anything dealing with gay rights, is that their mentality is like, well, if you even hear that two men could kiss, that could instantly create a homosexual.

Right. By the mere mention, by the mere viewing of it, that is how malleable our brains are don't don't think for a second people who are people know innately who they are deep down on some level it's this it's that they heard about this that is going to present an issue they go on to say a former creator of disney children's content recently published an article acknowledging that every children's tv writer knows to be careful about quote modeling behavior and quote as children will often imitate what is projected through the TV scripts, especially preschoolers. Again. Yeah, sure. What they mean is don't show a kid. Don't maybe have your character sticking

forks into light sockets. Right. Yeah. That part. but i'm not like i'm not over here being like yo mom can i get uh some paint so i can go paint a tunnel view on this wall and hopefully get some cars to drive through it and the modeling behavior is yeah we we would like to create a world where people are feel free to be themselves and so we don't want to model a world where like a certain type of person doesn't exist or that type of person is like treated hostily as they have been in our culture like up until you know a couple years ago yeah literally right the thing of it is like, when we all know this, none of this is about modeling.

It's all about supremacy. It's all about control. Yeah. Like, like, like I almost feel like I almost feel sad now when I see people like almost ironically sharing the, you know, we're going to be,

the America is going to be the handmaid's tale. Like when we share those types of like memes and whatnot, because like, that's the reality we are, we are all headed to like 1982, you know, footloose style and whatnot because like that's the reality we are we are all headed to like 1982 you know footloose you know style like like that that is the lifestyle that these legislators seem to you'll seem to want and and and i'll be honest with you it's it's actually terrifying like i don't have children but you know you know those of us that have kids that's for me that's a

terrifying thought that not only are we you know are rolling it back, but it's being forcibly rolled back. And to your kind of point that you brought up earlier, Jack, or I think it was Miles, I feel like this is absolutely coming. Like they are absolutely going to come for all of this. This is low hanging fruit. Right. This is low-hanging fruit, right? So while you may not go and say, we need to repeal same-sex marriage, you say, well, let's turn up the heat in other places.

Maybe we can disappear LGBTQ people from anything a child may see. And they have a lot of energy to back that. This letter does go on to even use just completely inaccurate shit. They say, again again when they're talking about how the children's content like especially why seven things and how dangerous that could be to have a anybody who is not a straight person on there uh they said this dialogue often involves the promotion of irreversible experimental treatments that involve surgical and otherwise

invasive cosmetic procedures that are detrimental and life altering. And do not evidence medical necessity. What fucking show is that? That kids are watching? And this is again. Because everything is about. Blowing things out of. Completely out of proportion.

To get the energy. The panic. The frenzy. The fear monk. Just at the highest level. So you can direct that at will you know and honestly using the using the the mindset of oh well it wasn't in the constitution it's like hey you know first of all let's give the founding fathers a break they were more focused on

being able to like own people in american imperialism and you know things of that nature you know they were like women what are you talking about? Right. I think one of the people who wrote the Constitution kept their wife chained in a basement. I'm pretty sure that's accurate. I mean, I'm sure they kept many people chained somewhere. So, wife or not, I can see the barbarism of it all. I can see the barbarism of it all. And then, so, you know, we don't, this is all just coming down to the fact that they have to,

they want to institutionalize even further this like abhorrent homophobia. And so as they want to disappear these people in the name of protecting children, I think Evan Hurst at WANCAT actually pointed something very interesting out about like how these parents of like hyper conservative Christian parents are,

is that if anyone's grooming anyone, these parents of like hyper conservative christian parents are is that if anyone's grooming anyone these parents are grooming their kids to be cishet self-loather bigots who do not actually who are not going to honor who they are that's the that's the momentum that's the environment that these these parents are creating one environment is one that says do not feel ashamed of who you are as a person. You can come as you are and you are worthy. The other version is, where'd you fucking hear that? Don't look at that.

Don't see that. You might turn you this. And if that happens, then that means this. That is a world filled with a lot of negative energy for a child. I'm pretty sure comparatively, that's how that looks from my perspective. They're grooming current children to be like our grandparents. And no disrespect to anybody's grandparents, but that time in life was not a good time in life for anybody. They had some things to work on, you know, my grandparents included.

You know, we all did. But, and again, and I think it's, you know, to use the word groom or whatever, it's whatever. But I think just interesting to look at what the energy is being into. And if you're talking about you want to take a child to a certain conclusion about what the world is or what their life could be. And to add to that too, the conservatives are still going on with this like furry panic thing. Like we've,

I mean, we didn't really talk about it much because it was just so ridiculous that you had conservatives being like, they're putting litter boxes in bathrooms because kids identify as animals now, or they're furries. Or that they had to, in some states, they had to lower the

lunch tables to accommodate the children who identified as animals. And so, they're continuing this whole fucking trend as well, because I think it's clearly doing something. It's getting the attention, even though most people don't understand it. But I think because we live in such a charged environment where like identity can now just mean anything and it's not about a human being, they're just fully going into like, OK, let's further to like other and dehumanize people who are different in any possible way. Further to like other and dehumanize people who are different in any possible way. Oh, man, the next election is going to be fucking.

I feel like so many of these things are like reaching their their final form or just like, yeah. And now it's all it's all about protecting the children. Yeah. But I just we've yet to hear a specific strategy that the democrats are going to employ like what what that that's where my feeling of inevitability comes from is that the democratic party doesn't have like the the republicans have a clear agenda that they are driving at strategizing around and have been for the past 40 years and the democratic party doesn't seem willing to do anything like, yeah. Yeah.

Well, I think, you know, I think the biggest thing is that when it comes to abortion, that was never really something that was truly part of the platform. It was, it was, you,

you start to see what the things they get done. They can help take away regulations. They can make things easier for the financial industry. They can do things like that. But as it relates to like codifying Roe, never really seemed to be much interest there. And, you know, it was when they were sending us emails asking for donations. Oh, yeah. when they were sending us emails asking for donations.

Oh yeah. I mean, I got one this morning from Nancy Pelosi because she texts all of God's children with a checking account and says, it's speaker Pelosi. Hear me in some weird ass font. You text them like some, I'm like, how do you even get that font to show up in a text?

And she was wearing Kinte cloth. That's how, that's how exactly she exactly she knew she's like hey brother turn that kendrick down real quick i got some i want to hit you to something uh and goes on to say i'll be blunt how we act in this harrowing moment will decide the future of our nation we can either either let right-wing forces pull us backwards or we can rise up together and fight to protect women's rights once and for all. The only way to protect reproductive rights is to build on our Democratic majorities in

the House and Senate and defeat every last anti-choice Republican who made this happen. First of all, you are caping for Henry Henry Cuellar in Texas, who's a Democrat who is anti-abortion. Right. So now square that shit because you're protecting people in the party that don't even believe this. are in Texas who's a Democrat who is anti-abortion. Right. So now square that shit because you're protecting people in the party that don't even believe this. Look, I'm a political idiot. One of the reasons why I was drawn to this show to begin with, because I was like, look,

these guys, hey, they're teaching me some stuff. I really appreciate the way you guys phrase it. I appreciate it. You already got the gig, bro. No, no. But I'm saying like this was literally literally that like i'm talking about your years years back that was the appeal i was like you know what i need someone to talk to me like i am a five-year-old and you guys you guys do a great job of of explaining things and one thing

i'll say is this to respond to something that you asked earlier jack or that you earlier was uh you know what's the democrats you know plan you know what's their strategy from it from a political idiot what it seems like all it always has been is hey we're not them hey we're better than them hey just just vote blue like that's all i've heard at least over the last four years and i'm not trying to dissuade anybody i'm not trying to you know like talk anybody you know you know into you know voting republican or doing anything else but that's what it feels like it just feels like they're they're good enough with simply being a little bit better than the other side. Oh, absolutely.

Yeah, because that's where the funding is. Yeah, it's worked wonders. Yeah. And like the text of that from Nancy Pelosi of now more than ever, this is it. Like, this is the moment. Like you sent me this text six years ago. And probably three months ago. I feel like they're constantly evoking this shit.

And then now, yeah, it doesn't work. These text messages are so fucked up and absurd when you read them, given what is happening right now. Right. People are fucking, there are happening right now right people are fucking there are people right now who are wondering how the fuck am i gonna do right by my own body right now how do i do that yeah and this text goes on to say we're looking at this an existence we i mean we face existential threats constantly but this one's very specific and it's very, very important.

You go on to tweet in this same text asking for money, quote, quote, I need a once in a lifetime response. 10,000 gifts in the next 12 hours to put us in a position to win this fight and protect our fundamental rights. If we don't meet our goal, Republicans think they can get away with anything. So you've rhetorically tied the idea that if we do not give you our money, then our rights are fucking gone. Yeah. That's how you're motivating people.

All I ask is for one Democrat to come out and describe like what what is what has prevented you from protecting women's rights why why has that so it's not enough to be like a mansion what so why is mansion like beholden to the the forces that he's beholden to what are you doing like what what can you do what what are what is at stake in your mind what is at stake beyond like you know your next election what is at stake what what is the thing that motivates you is it like the the people who are going to suffer from this because you don't really seem to like reach out to them or talk about them it's all about you know reaching out and asking for a once in a lifetime bunch of money i this is the thing is it like gavin newsom he i mean i don't know i mean we'll say i don't know i don't know how sincere he is but he was really like where the hell is my party right he's like

where why aren't we standing up more firmly moreolutely? But he's also saying this at a rally. And it's much easier to be like, as a governor, be like, what are they doing over there? Because governors love to do that. That helps them seem a little bit disconnected from the larger national party politics of it all. But that was the most forceful thing I read in a headline was Gavin Newsom being like, dude, where's my party? But I don't know. There's got to be like a bunch of Democratic strategists who are reaching out to AOC being like, this is your moment. Like, come in, run for the presidency next, like for 2024.

Like the things are too, too bad for to like for Biden to win again. I think all that's true. The problem is the people who are reaching out are Democratic strategists. Like, you know, it would need to. I don't know how you unfuck the whole DMC of it all. We'll see. I mean, because right now they're still they're sending text messages like i need gifts you need gifts motherfucker people are asking for rights

i need gifts is exactly like what our faces with i need oh my god that's so horrible what just happened to you i need presents from you now like more than ever actually and in making you feel guilty if you aren't able to or willing to do it oh yeah you know what was wild when I go through my text like at the end of last week right before all this shit dropped got another text and

the energy on that was like hey y'all shit's bad yeah Republicans might be leading by a point. And you're like, you're, oh. Yeah. That's all they have to motivate people. Because imagine this, right?

It's like when we watch fucked up ads and we're like, how the fuck did that company let them make that ad? There was nobody in the room. Well, it's because everybody in the room was looking at it the same way. Yeah. They didn't have any consideration how that looks outside the room because they don't even have the wherewithal to know that there is an outside the room. That's right. Outside the room. What's that?

Or if there is, they see it as outside the room is beholden to what we set in this room. So I don't give a fuck what's happening outside the room. I'm almost like morbidly curious to like go listen to one of those like pod save podcasts just to hear like what what they're what they're saying at this. I mean, you know, they're talking about like attorneys general and like those moves and things that are happening in that sense. But you're not going to get like I don't I can't imagine you're going to hear the frustrations of the about with the party boil over. Right. And I think i don't know and again i think that's what's really interesting is you can only keep doing stuff like this till

these things without any without any prompting that these sort of takes and texts and things look so hollow and you start you start realizing like what the fuck like we're talking about people's rights and yeah i'm getting hit up for money it's like the what the fuck? Like we're talking about people's rights and yeah, I'm getting hit up for money. It's like the first, the first version of that is like when you graduate college and then like the first fall after graduating, they're like,

Hey man, what's up, man? You thinking about donating? And you're like, what the fuck? That's like most people's reactions, right?

When they graduate that first piece of mail or whatever, high school, whatever, like what the fuck are you talking about and that's how these texts are starting to sound to i think a lot of people but i think i think you kind of hit it on the head and not to belabor it i'll make it quick i if you don't like if you don't see people as people if you don't ever interact with actual real people you're not going to care and the and and that's how we end up in this situation like

let's be real. When's the last time, and I don't want to pick on Nancy Pelosi, but when's the last time you think she's had a real conversation with someone like you or I? She would say, I met with constituents last week that my press team vetted before I was interacting with them so they could say three very specific sentences to me about a topic that i of my choosing and it was wonderful and they were actually disadvantaged uh just that's like quote unquote colored but yes yeah well you know she had her she had her fubu on yeah for that meeting and everybody's inside a broken system so i mean it's like yeah but the absurdity right is you got men uh non-uterus

havers telling uterus havers how to run their shit. Right. And you got people who wouldn't know what the fuck anything costs or how stretched and strapped people are for cash or some sense of stability. People who are living the total antithesis of suffering, indulgence over the top everything. They're setting all the policy that determines how those people live and it's just there's the it's it's that's not representative in any way and i think that's you know i think i i think many people are probably for the first time having a reckoning of like being like what the fuck i thought those were like rights and

that like they matter enough that you would knuckle the fuck up to protect them. And then they go away. And now you're hearing crickets and Joe Biden being like, hey, get out and vote. And Nancy Pelosi asking for gifts. Yeah. I mean, we are recording this a little bit ahead of Monday. So maybe, you know, over the weekend, the Democrats are going to just drop a very detailed roadmap for how they're going to do everything and would love to see i would love would love for this to be outdated by the time y'all hear it but i mean and that's just

one mess y'all gotta clean up right don't think many people have for you don't think people who thought who were talking about immigration have forgotten what's going on with that or what people who are interested in voting rights or criminal justice like retangible reforms not little winks and nods at shit but like really changing shit um because if you're not fit for it that's just starting to i'm you know i'm not i'm just looking at the data that's out there that's all we really need a fire party we really fucking need a third party at this point i mean there are plenty right you know there are plenty other political part but like where's the organization coming from etc and i don't and i'm sure they will do everything to kill a third party and it's oh yeah

the second it happens because that is the that is the biggest threat to them is like, well, if they split off and get these other votes, then like. We're going to have to start doing our own gerrymandering to cut out the independence from voting. Yeah, it has always felt like that was the game, though, like they recognize they're not really competing with one another. They're just keeping each other in business. Feeding with one another they're just keeping each other in business Absolutely Look one says we're I mean like as much as the Democrats Are like we think people should have access

To abortion Okay now prove it That's all that's really it That's really it and that May help you get a Little bump in the polls but like If I mean yeah The most cynical version of this is that like

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Chappelle has done another comedy show where he talked about his experience. And, I don't know, just overall, there's also a lot of headlines about the person was first being charged with a felony and now it's being turned into a misdemeanor. And there's also headlines of people, you know, famous people being like, we need to protect them. This is the beginning of the end and kind of making it seem like it's a large scale war on comedians, which usually means they think it's like a war on free speech and their ability to offend. So first I just want to,

the description of the show, like even before the attack happened was pretty interesting. There, there was a vanity fair reporter there. And so it opens up with british comedian jimmy carr who's special his dark material is like you know always on on netflix and instead of doing the normal conventions the stand-up read a series of offensive of offensive and quote cancelable jokes mostly pertaining to the trans community their jokes he said repeatedly in between punch lines to the roar of the crowd um it just it

sounds like the crowd was like really like there for the toxicity oh i mean yeah i think the gauntlet was laid thrown down you know when when d when Dave Chappelle started going in that direction. And because if you're if you're going there and you are if you don't you find transphobia, homophobia, like just despicable. You're not gonna be like, yeah, I want to I want to check that out for my enjoyment. You might go because you're curious. But I feel like the people who are there who like bought their tickets, they're full like they're on board. Yeah. Or at least not offended enough to the degree where they'd be like, I can't I'm not I'm not interested in this at all.

The reporter says that like Jon Stewart went up and like other comedic news people I've heard of, namely myself. There were times last week after the news where I wasn't feeling very funny. week after the news where I wasn't feeling very funny. So he had like some more off the cuff, not fully formed material about how fucked we all are. And, you know, the pro-Chapelle audience was not responsive. But then, you know, the person says that Stewart got a huge laugh when he used the F word in a joke about other rights that the Supreme Court might take away. Chris Rock came out and talked about how America was almost over and joked about America's selective outrage, which I think is an important detail I want to come back to. on and the reporter says quickly dug into his new material which perhaps unsurprisingly is as polarizing if not more so than that of his last netflix special the closer backed by a bright red background chapelle said that he truly believed the closer was a masterpiece and that he hoped the trans community watched till the end shortly before he was attacked chapelle also mentioned

that he had to hire more security after the response to the closer and then after he was attacked, Chappelle also mentioned that he had to hire more security after the response to the closer. And then after he was attacked, he joked again, in quotes, that it was a trans man who attacked him. the foster care system, struggles with mental health issues, was trying to draw attention to inequality in an extremely misguided way. Chappelle took to the Comedy Store stage a couple nights later and mentioned that he convinced the LAPD to let him speak with the man who attacked him. And the man told Chappelle the attack was meant to draw attention to gentrification and his grandmother was recently ousted from her Brooklyn neighborhood, per the outlet. So yeah, we have a mental health crisis, economic inequality crisis in the country that is causing causing a lot of violence and definitely scary, untenable circumstances. And all of those problems are caused by economic inequality, a police force that is merciless and a society that

empowers them and feels good about caging humans and better about caging humans than like taking care of people who don't have anything looking out for them. Exactly zero percent of it is caused by cancel culture. But I feel like the version that you got of the attack is Chappelle attacked says like had previously said that he needed extra security to protect him against critics of his anti-trans material, and then joked that it was a trans ban after the fact. And then everybody's coming out and being like, America's too sensitive after that. And it just feels like we have a lot of anger in this country for good reasons, but they're not the reasons that get mentioned anywhere in the country for the most part and it is now being uh channeled and like digested into this like really toxic mixture of like punching down and like being mad at people who don't have rights and it just it feels again like we're headed a scary direction honestly you know i'm a huge comedy fan and one of the things that makes me i mean this is selfishly speaking but i'm sad that a guy like you know a person like george carlin is not around you know and and you just made me think of it when you said punching down because there's a

there's a famous quote of his i think he was was on with Larry King and he says, you know, the great thing about comedy is that, you know, you speak out, you know, kind of like the voice of the voiceless, you know, speaking out against the oppression or whatever the case may be, whatever the issue of the time may be. But he specifically in that in that interview said, you know, we don't punch down, you know, the, the, the, the communities that are subjugated, the communities that are most oppressed are the ones that we definitely are usually in favor of. And it just feels like now that's completely gone or, and, and maybe, and maybe that's hyperbolic, but I at least don't see that, you know, that mindset or that, you know, that being the case with most of our comedians now. Look, Dave Chappelle at one point in my life, I absolutely said he was one of the funniest people ever. And I'm not going

to take anything away from any of his past comedy. But right now, Dave has absolutely turned into our uncle on Facebook. And for the life of me, I just don't understand it. It's not like he needs it to be famous. It's not like he needs it to make money or anything.

He would be popular without doing this. I think, yeah. It's just disgusting. He found a formula, though. This is true. And I think with the way he feels now, he's like a Pokemon who's leveling up. He's like, I got through that shit. Now I'm even stronger.

Watch me continue down this path and it's yeah i i there's there's just like this issue like generally right in the country where culturally we don't speak about problems in the u.s like it's it's all about just kind of just putting shit down and we have all these problems that we are not confronting head on and they're just rotting this place from the inside out and it it just like watching this still continue continue continue it's very it's yeah it's alarming but to also like you know jimmy carr like in between like their jokes like, do some black jokes in the hood. And let me see if you're philosophically.

Let me see some other jokes. Do some jokes about Jewish people. But that's the thing. Those are coming. It's one of those where it's like, that train's never late. And those comedians are already out there. And I think what's also interesting, though, too, is how many other comedians are like, man, has anyone actually been to a like a smaller comedy show i think roy wood

jr was saying like i've seen so many dudes fight mid-show that's right this isn't anything new this is just happening to more famous comedians that's the difference right now but yeah it it does seem like they're all of this energy we're're not able to, like you're saying, Jack, just say we have a mental health crisis. We have an inequality crisis. This guy didn't show up because he was like, you know, some stalker who was being like, Dave Chappelle, like, what have you done to me? Clearly distraught about many other things. But a lot of it, like you're saying, had to do with his grandmother being displaced. Right.

things but a lot of it like you're saying had to do with his grandmother being displaced right and think i mean i'm not saying what he's doing is right but imagine not and again i'm not saying you need to attack somebody to make your point but what have you ever done to help somebody you deeply cared about you'd probably do a lot right and when you have people increasingly like more people with that level of desperation. And a lack of resources and support, that's definitely not a good formula for any place. Yeah. And I think it's when we just don't want to talk about the thing, though, to really articulate that we have a lot of societal failings happening. And we're just it's easier to just be like man the fucking social justice war is tripping yeah because they don't want to hear they don't want to hear that things need to be better that's really all it is it's wild to me like the idea i wasn't there i don't know what chris rock set was about but the fact that it was about selective outrage while he's like headlining with somebody who is outraged at the trans community like for criticizing his comedy well you know it was after the row opinion had been published on politico like that's you know people's rights are being taken away and i don't know it's just wild like i don't i i don't know

what specifically he was he was talking about and then chapelle ended his second like his comedy store set by saying i hate this city which i think is yeah like it's that that feels appropriate to me that you're just like i hate this, but not going any deeper than that. Like what what is what is causing the condition that makes you hate hate this city? That's that's a little too much introspection. The people that yell the loudest about council culture and call the most people snowflakes are the biggest snowflakes. Yeah. And that's that's the lane that these folks are in now. Yeah. Yeah. And honestly, in the jokes just get worse and i

think to your point too this emboldens people because the punching down george carlin fantastic comedian and it's difficult to be a good comedian because the easy way to get laughs is to just make fun of people is to just tease people is to just demean people that's the easiest way the first way i learned that i was funny was because i was a little bit smarter and i would use that to say really fucking wild shit that normally the other kids weren't saying and people were like whoa y'all he really said that about somebody's dad's dick you know whatever and i'm like i'm on this shit i'm here motherfuckers watch me and then you get older you got you have some empathy you're like man these

these are fucking jokes like my whole i remember when i started doing improv a teacher at the groundlings was like your whole style is just being mean like every character you do in a scene you get laughs by just being mean you're not actually helping the scene go forward and i To somebody else's dad's dick. It's always that. You just keep coming back to dad's dick. Okay, fine. What about the last scene in the bakery?

I wasn't mean. You said, when your scene partner asked what you're baking, you said, I just pulled out your dad's dick. It wasn't funny, my man. And it didn't make sense. It was huge. It didn't make sense either. I'm like like what the

fuck do you know working comedian who ended up becoming the progressive auto insurance lady oh damn which is stephanie courtney yeah stephanie courtney stephanie courtney who plays flow called me on that shit and i it took me a second to really think like fuck the only way i know how to be funny was just to be nasty yeah and that really took that really was a gut check of like man that's that's actually like not not even from an empathy sample just from as a like an art i i took a second i was like i have do i have it wrong can i even make funnier ideas up if this is my only thing and it's easy now we're seeing a proliferation of people who is up if this is my only thing and it's easy now we're seeing a proliferation of people who they're going with the easiest shit and it's like you know the artistry is not there and

we're rewarding people like we're saying to just regress yeah well at least you know if you have things go south with zeitgeist or boosties or wherever there's a lane for your comedy oh yeah you can bring it right back oh yeah i'm i have the perfect uh career arc too angry podcaster turns this rabid hate comedian i do feel like i don't know the when chapelle left chapelle show and like in the middle of making season three i thought that was like one of the most underrated, like brave things a celebrity has done to just be like, yo, fame is, will destroy me. I'm going to remove myself from it. And also like, I don't like what this show means to people and I don't like the effect I see it having on audiences. So I don't know.

Maybe he was just sensitive to what was coming, like what he was capable of. Or maybe he is capable of introspection. And, you know, we'll see him evolve out loud. Don't need to count on it, though. But I'm not counting on it. Do you remember that Lipton interview? Yeah. Yeah. I want that.

I know it's selfish to say, but I want that Chappelle. That introspective, that honest introspective, just true to self, individual, clearly going through stuff, but processing it. It feels like that's not... That guy's not Martin Lawrence, right? Yeah, that's the one where he talks about Martin Lawrence.

The Hollywood makes people lose their shit. Yeah, exactly. And I don't... Yeah. You don't know what happened, what turns occurred, but I don't know. I'm not even really interested in knowing that. At the end of the day, like, again, just be careful with the things you consume.

What you take in. It's not just your food and stuff. It's really like the content you're looking at there's a again plenty of things you could look at and get fucking angry about but like try and put some shit in that is like joyful too because just getting out in the fucking world you're going to see a ton of shit that you get outraged about and we don't need to the the lines are clear in history and who's on the right side and who's on the wrong. But right now, it's clearly profitable to be on the wrong. And when you have the backing of a company like Netflix, it's only going to reinforce that perception. You guys, Netflix is a joke.

That shit just fucking infuriates me for some reason. That catchphrase is just like, I don't know. I don't know what it is about it, but Jabari, such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Jack and Miles, I really do appreciate you having me again. Each time I say I'm not worthy and I mean it. I know I got the gig already, Miles, but it's true. NBA on Twitter, Jabari Davis NBA.

Pretty much that's the easiest place to find me. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Absolutely. And I actually copied it down because I wanted to make sure I got it right. All right. So it is by my guy, Mark Schindler, on Twitter. And it goes, you've seen winning time. Now check out the other side of the arena

in losing scumbag racist time. And it was in response to the news of Ed O'Neill being cast to play Donald Sterling in an upcoming FX limited series. Cut out the part, man. Good stuff there. And Vanessa Hudgens

as V Stiviano. Who's playing V Stiviano? I can't wait for the full casting. Absolutely. Bring the visor back. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Let's see. Find me on Twitter and Instagram

at Miles of Grey. You can also find me on 420 Day Fiance with Sophie Alexander. You already know about Mad Boosties. Some tweets that I like. Yes, first one is from Colette Shade at Miss Shade on Twitter tweeted, I'm from 1999. I believe the Dow will go up forever and I enjoy 11 servings of bread per day. I just love that. And then Suspected Arsonist at I'm colin brown uh tweeted if only there was a place i could buy

furniture while eating meatballs oh let me tell you something man there is force me we love it um all right gloom father tweeted they should make a grocery store for men and mosley Momos tweeted they're called gas stations, they have snacks dick pills and all the gasoline you can drink laughter laughter you can find me on twitter at

Jack underscore O'Brien you can find us on twitter at Daily Zeitgeist we're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram we have a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. We link off the information that we talked about in today's episode,

as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? I mean, hey, we're going to keep it SoCal. Because of this track, it's called Whittier Boulevard. Okay, if you know, you know. But this is from an artist named Jaren. J-A-R-R-E-N. And this is just like some like music, but it feels like a loading screen on GTA San Andreas.

If that's if that you can connect those dots as a very like kind of funkadelic kind of hip hop sort of production style. But there's like this sort of tape. It's like, it feels like it came off of beat tape from like the eighties or something, but it's current. And I love that style of music. So this is Whittier Boulevard by Jaren. All right.

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