The Daily Zeitgeist - Dr. Oz LITERALLY Stinks, Long Standing Ovation = Bad Movie? 09.08.22

Episode Date: September 8, 2022

In episode 1326, Jack and Miles are joined by writers, artists, and hosts of Baby Genius, Emily Heller and Lisa Hanawalt to discuss… Let’s check in with the Land of OZ, How Human Behavior Explains Crazy-Long Standing Ovations and more! Let’s check in with the Land of OZ Oz seeks to win over the MAGA faithful Clap Watch: Colin Farrell and The Banshees of Inisherin now lead with 13-minute standing ovation Florence Pugh and Olivia Wilde Keep Their Distance During 4-Minute Venice Standing Ovation for ‘Don’t Worry Darling’ White Noise tragically opens in Venice to "a tepid 150-second standing ovation" The Longest Standing Ovations at Cannes, From 'Elvis' to 'Bowling for Columbine' From ‘Elvis’ to ‘Inglourious Basterds,’ These Are the Longest Cannes Standing Ovations of All Time When the Applause Just Won’t End LISTEN: Mindgames by GanzoSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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A production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Thursday, September 8th, 2022. 9822. 9822. It's National School Picture Day, so get ready. You know, get those fake smiles ready. I hated School Picture Day.

National Ampersand Day. All right. And National Pediatric Hematology and Oncology Nurses Day. Okay. Shout out to homie Nurse Brittany who's an oncology nurse at USC. I feel like ampersands still fuck up a lot when you try and use them in titles of various. We still haven't gotten a universal language of ampersand. If we try and use it in a podcast title, it will fucking melt down.

CMS. Yeah. CMS software does not recognize the ampersand. It's like, are you trying to hack the system? And then shit gets all fucked up. But I do want to say, National School Picture Day, I hated. Because I hate taking pictures. and I hate smiling in pictures. So you should see my first seven years of school photos.

I have this smile on where I'm just merely keeping my mouth shut and being like, I must raise the corners of my mouth to appear like a human boy. Yeah. I get real mad every time our kids bring pictures home home from school because like they're just they're forcing around. Yeah, their eyes are closed. They're like they're showing all their teeth. And then I see the pictures of the other kids and they're all they all look cute. So I don't know if the problem is my kids, but it's it's always very stressful for me. You know, with time, with time time they'll be hamming it up

that's right um anyways my name is jack o'brien aka harry crane from mad men that's courtesy of jeremiah alexander uh a la harry kane massive which is the only phrase i say confidently with a british accent, it doesn't. They just sound alike, and I get the sense he just had that rattling around in his head after hearing me say, Harry Kane, massive, for the thousandth time. He was just like, oh, there's a character. Anyways, shout out to Jeremiah Alexander for that one, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. I ain't trending.

I'm feeling sad. I got the zeitgeist in my head. I'm stupid, but not for long. Hey, Jack, the Jaws theme song is coming on, is coming on. It's da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, da-dun, Okay, shout out to Kitty Feisty

Backpack on Discord, who seamlessly was like, it's coming on, then wrote out the Jaws theme, so I had to perform that. Yo, Jaws is out in theaters right now. I still haven't seen it on a big screen. I need to do that. I might leave this recording early. Because I... Sorry. I need to do that. I might leave this recording early. Sorry.

It's my favorite movie. I've seen it a thousand times on VHS and various streaming platforms, but never on the big screen. Okay, well, we might have to make that happen for you, young man. Anyways, Miles, we're thrilled to be joined by two hilarious and talented artists responsible for some of the best things on tv and together uh responsible for a truly divide deviteful uh divisive a truly divisive podcast uh no i meant to say delightful podcast baby geniuses please welcome the brilliant and

talented emily heller and lisa hannaway Emily Heller, and Lisa Hanawal! Emily Heller! Hi! Hi! What's up? Hello. Thank you so much for having us. Thanks for coming. Thank you guys for being here. Our podcast is divisive, I'd say. Very divisive. Woof.

Yeah, we fight all the time. Yeah. And you're talking about the film Baby Geniuses that came out in 1998? Yeah, we've been doing the podcast for 10 years. Every episode is a recap of the one movie. I feel like we named our podcast before we really knew how podcasts were supposed to be named. Right. You're like, we each get a movie and we name our podcast after that.

It's a great show. The people who expect a podcast about babies are really upset when they listen to our podcast yeah oh do they really like do they come hoping for like baby raising tips yeah this has happened a handful of times yeah or we'll sometimes get someone on facebook sent us a video of their kid being like, I think my kid might be a genius. What do you think? You should just run with that. I'm an expert on this now. It was a video of the baby holding a book, like a kid's book, and turning the pages and going, you know, just like making baby sounds.

And they were like, I think they might be reading. I'm sorry. No, your child is doing an impression of one of the aliens from Mars attacks. And you're like, okay, you're choking, baby? Are you at the pages? That's amazing. I can only imagine the amount of people. It's very much like a, I don't know about your kid, but I feel confident judging whether you are a genius.

I think we have conclusive evidence on that. When people tune in looking for like a baby Mozart-esque podcast that's like teaching you, what do they get instead? How do you guys describe your podcast to people? We talk a lot about like Martha Stewart and what do they get instead how do you guys describe your podcast to people um we talk a lot about like martha stewart and what she's up to it has like evolved over the years into just sort of like a totally unfocused bloated with segments it's a hang you know it's just a hang yeah it's a hang at this point. We have like... The segments are great. The segments, we do like check in on Martha Stewart's pony every episode. We do... Okay. Bloated with segments.

We do a Wikipedia segment where we just talk about a weird Wikipedia page. We occasionally review pictures of our listeners' butts that they send us. Yeah, we read their stories about talking in their sleep lately. We've been doing that a lot. Yes. I love sleep talking stories. They're so good. But yeah, it's truly amorphous, I'd say. Right. Man, a good duo for people to tune into, too, because it's a wonder we're not more popular. It's exactly what everyone's looking for. Just sort of like, are you in? Extremely easy elevator pitch. The draw for me is like knowing how talented the two of you are.

So like hearing you talk is great because you have good insights. Like Lisa, as through your art and, you know, Emily, through your comedy and things like that. I just feel like there's a good, there's a good balance to it.

Also. Oh, that's very kind. Thank you. Thank you. All right. Well, we're going to get to know you guys a little bit better in a moment.

First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things that we are talking about today. We're going to check in with the land of Oz. Dr. Oz's campaign has probably been the most entertaining thing of the midterms for me, at least. So he's continued with the self-judo ownage. We're going to talk about how he manages to keep one upping himself we're going to talk about the long standing ovations at the film festivals like the venice film festival they're

now just ranking movies based on how long the standing ovations are like it's like a gymnastics judge score so we're going to talk about that because it does seem fairly haphazard and also just based on weird like behavioral dynamics all of that plenty more but first emily lisa we like to ask our guest what is something from your search histories that is revealing about who you guys are i'll start all right you start. How many am I allowed to do? I feel like none of these are super revealing about me. I did recently look up Deb Chubb Birds because I have been watching the Love Island U.S. Okay.

Which is not as good as the U.K., I will say it. And there is a a i almost said character it's a real person it's really hard to remember there are real people um there is a contestant on that show named deb chubb who it seems and i'm like i was googling it because i wanted to know if my interpretation is correct and i'm fully open to the idea that my interpretation is not correct but it seems to me that she believes the quote unquote conspiracy

theory because it's not a conspiracy theory it's a joke that birds aren't real and she keeps talking about it on the show like she believes it it's weird because Deb Chubb sounds like a kind of bird to me yeah right I was like what kind of bird to me yeah right i was like what kind of bird is the deb yeah the northern crested yeah a northern crested deb chub

um and it's like a thing where usually on love island what they do is they edit out people saying stupid stuff like that and then they compile all of it into the unseen bits episode so the rest of the episodes you can still like root for them to find love and then you watch the episode and you're like oh none of them have read a book none of them deserve anything but but they can't edit out her talking about birds because it comes up so much that she's talking about it in making her decisions about like which guys to choose where she's like i mean he went with me on the whole birds aren't real thing oh my god and is she in on it like is that is that like a psychological like this is my whole issue with flat earthers is I believed that they were fucking with us for a long time.

And then you're like, wait, y'all are real? Oh, no. I think some of them are in on it. And then other people just don't get that it's a joke and they believe it. And I can't, I genuinely cannot tell with her yeah it feels like medium risk q anon yeah you know where it's like oh some people are kind of fucking with you for their own weird aims and i'll be like no this is good this is birds aren't real yeah and you're like doesn't that make the people who are doing it as a joke feel a little bit guilty. Yeah. Or do you go or in my mind, I would probably say, come on, man.

Really? I just I'm out here saying birds aren't real. And you really just attached yourself to that notion and flew away into the sun with it. I don't know. I don't know if I could feel bad because it's so dumb. But yeah, I don't know. But she's like talking to people on the show and they're like i've seen a dead bird and bugs ate it right yeah i don't know robot bugs robot yeah oh my god the

but i i feel like when you read the history of like scientology and shit like that that is how they were talking about scientology in the early days like L. Ron Hubbard was like doing it just a bit to like you know fuck with his friends and then like Isaac Asimov and then like got away from him or his ego got away from him and he was like wait I kind of like being on a boat where I am God for yeah

right and I think the difference with Scientology is that like most of the times when people are allowed to learn like the really sort of improbable theories about what's going on on earth is by the time they get to that point, they've spent a hundred thousand dollars and they sort of have to believe it because of the sunk cost fallacy. But I don't, I don't get why Deb Chubb wants to believe that birds aren't real it's also fascinating it's also weird because she's like I think it's the government spying

on us and it's like dude you're on a reality show why would the birds be showing up they're already filming you every second of the day there's five dudes with cameras on their shoulders aimed at you right now. Yes. They're spying, I think. Why would the government send birds into the villa with just a huge waste of resources? It feels like a really elegant way to completely destabilize a society, too. Yeah. Go for something small and absurd. And if enough people go there, that's just going to lead you down.

Like you're saying, it's like, I don't know, man. It could be about surveillance. I would say the main reason why I chose that as my most revealing one is I just want someone to tell me if they know if she actually believes that. I want to know. I cannot find an answer to like, has she addressed it since the show? It's just not doesn't seem to be something people are writing about. And I don't know why. Right. Why are we avoiding this conversation? Yeah, it is kind of the most fascinating thing that a stupid person can do is believe in that, because then like, I just that that's the only thing they could do. Like if they were just like,

I believe in, you know, I want to tell you about my good friend JC and like his 12 friends married to say, you know, like telling me like Bible shit, I'd be very uninterested and run the other way. But if like that, it has all sorts of dynamics working for it that like make me want to just like sit down with Deb Chubb for some reason and just like really,

really dive in there. Yeah. That big old brain does it include chicken or is it only flight flighted birds that's great oh good that's a great great follow-up question why did no one in the villa when she orders chicken wings like hot chicken wings what does she think does she think she's eating a robot she probably doesn't think a chicken is a bird to be perfectly honest she probably doesn't think a chicken is a bird yeah i mean that's i'm on the fence about that. You are a bit of an expert, Lisa.

What is something from your search history, Lisa? Okay. This is going to sound really dirty and it's not. It's lick tub. Lick tub. Is this for a horse? It's Lick Tub. Lick Tub. Lick Tub. Is this for a horse? Yes.

Okay. Miles knows. It's an agricultural item. It is a 50-pound or 100-pound tub of minerals and fat and molasses that livestock can lick at as a supplement or as a boredom relief item. Wow. So you buy like a container where it's just all just in there and then they just just lick away it's just in there and you just crack the the lid open like it's a big old can and it's just like stuff they can lick so i was trying to find one and i was calling up like every feed store in la and saying the words lick tub over the phone felt perverted i thought they would

know what i meant and a lot of them didn't and And so I was trying to explain to them. And then you were like, it's an agricultural item. This is a family owned feed store and we don't like that kind of feel. I finally found one from a store in Sunland. Oh yeah. Okay. That feels about right. That's about right. There's a place where they had baby chickens for sale and I did drive up there. How much did the link tub go for, if you don't mind me asking? This was expensive. It was like close to $100, I think. And how much licking would get out of one tub?

You know, I've been doling it out slowly. So it's been a few weeks now. Austerity measures. It's still very full. Yeah. Well, because I think if I leave it open, my pony will eat the whole thing in two hours. So I'm just. Oh, right.

Okay. I got you. I don't. Is it like candy? She can't be trusted. Is it like good for like, is too much of it bad? Or like, you kind of want to be like, you'll get a couple licks a day. You don't want to lick, have a lick out all day.

I don't think she should eat 55 pounds of it in a day, but I don't think it's bad. It's just like, you know, it's supposed to be good for them, but it's a lot of sugar in it. Her next Google search is how fast should a pony eat a lick tub? I don't know. I gotta learn. Lick tub bad, if too much for a pony? This is a steep learning curve. Lick tub sounds like

Deb Chubb's relative. It does! Lick tub and Deb Chubb. Lick tub and Deb Chubb. It's another kind of bird. Wait, did y'all find this? it's another kind of bird what is something you guys think is overrated uh google this is my and i i'm not just saying this because i didn't get the answer about deb chubb but in general and you know i think this has been reported on Google is just less and less usable. Like you it just does not show you the information you're looking for in

the way that it used to because it's algorithmically trying to show you some other shit. And it's so frustrating to me. I really have you tried DuckDuckGo? That's what I've been using lately. Yeah, it doesn't it doesn't like track you and duck duck go also has does not have answers about dev jump but it is less overrated than google yeah I would ask jeeves honestly jeeves might know what happened to him here's the thing about ask jeeves that I I think I have probably bored lisa with this already but so i have been reading a bunch of the pg woodhouse books pg woodhouse who was the creator of jeeves the butler uh-huh and like there are humorous old-timey books from like you know the 20s about this dumb rich guy and his butler and every one of those stories is about him asking

jeeves for help and jeeves going in a very circuitous sort of counterintuitive method to get it and it all backfires and i don't understand why we're presenting that character as a reliable problem solver like naming your glasses after Mr. Magoo. Yes. Oh, so he's like the original Nathan Fielder? Like Nathan Fielder? Kind of, yeah. Like, okay, the plan? Make this frozen yogurt taste like shit or whatever that is. Well, he's also just trying to

ignore his rich boss and his rich boss's dumb ideas. Oh, okay. He's a working class hero. Kind of, yeah. Yeah, push-pull. But he's a working class hero kind of yeah a little yeah push pull but he's weirdly i mean i recommend reading the books they're really funny but uh it it always strikes me as odd that we're asking jeeps to get us something directly right what are the books called like what's the most famous wodehouse oh my gosh i don't know what the most famous one. He wrote like hundreds of them.

I can try to... I'm sorry. This is so boring. I'm like I'm looking in my... Jeeves in the Offing. Yeah, that's a good one. Right Ho, Jeeves. Right Ho, Jeeves is a really good one. Right Ho, Jeeves.

Ring for Jeeves is pretty good. It's really hard to tell them apart because there's just so many of them. You just make up some titles. Jeeves Special Day. Right. Big Outing for Jeeves. Right.

And Evening with Jeeves. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's something, Emily, that you've noticed? You're like, I used to be able to find this on Google and now you're like what the fuck happened that's a i should have come prepared with something like that aside from curious about aside from the fact that like looking up deb chubb bird doesn't reveal anything about her talking about birds not being real

yeah sometimes it'll just be something where you're like okay what's the biggest country by population and it'll just like tell you the biggest country by area right away where like it just has started ignoring search terms i feel like that's something that is frustrating to me gotcha it's like i think you mean by area right yeah but it won't even say by area. It'll just like put up a picture of what they think the answer is without the information that disqualifies it. I think one of the most frustrating things is like you'll look up something like, can my dog eat blah, blah, blah. And it'll be like 10 foods your dog should not eat. And the food that you listed is under the actually it's OK section. But then it tells you that they can't eat it.

And so I just I'm constantly thinking I've poisoned my dog. Yeah. Yeah. Google's bad. Just in general. Evil. Very evil. I feel like DuckDuckGo is still finding its sea legs, but it's definitely less intrusive and less likely to track you.

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outer space wow yeah i know i'm sorry swings like that. I think just like stop trying to go there. Just let it be like there's plenty to do here on Earth. I think the ocean has plenty of aliens in it. If you go deep enough, just gets weirder and weirder. Just go just go under the sea. I just want I'm really just trying to get Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk to walk into the sea. Bezos and Elon Musk to walk into the sea. That's right. Go to the bottom of the ocean. Go to the very deepest bottom. It seems less likely that they'll come back from there than from outer space. I think so. Yeah.

I also feel like if we weren't so needy, the aliens would come to us if we just stopped. If we were like kind of ignoring them. I know. We're like stopped looking and be like, hey, what's going on out there? Sending them so many messages. God. At least come and be like hey what's going on out there guys sending them so many messages god at least come and be like what are you guys up to we don't trust it all of a sudden went radio silent on our

we should have some mystique you know like lure them in that way come on the pentagon start curving these fucking ghosts man start ghosting them we want the fucking information we want play hard to get yeah i do feel like that's been the pentagon's solution it turns out has been just like i don't know man it's fucking weird right with all the aliens like that's all you can say for real fucking weird what

do you i don't know i don't know you know can you anybody have any ideas like what it went from the water to the air to the water again yeah that's the coolest thing about it is that like they're flying from underwater that makes me excited because yeah i i am uh i i subscribe to the like we should be spending more time looking into the ocean than into outer space stuff although i don't think it's a competition. We have plenty of time. And plenty of resources to spend on things other than helping people. Right. Yeah.

100%. Because in our mind is if we figure out the aliens, they're probably going to help us figure out everything else, like the climate, health care, inequality. Aliens have great health care. Famine. I feel like they probably do though, right? I mean they flew here from late years away

I told you, they come here for the schadenfreude it's just disaster tourism I just think that the likelihood that any alien thing that we're seeing of UFOs, there's no chance it's aliens. If it is them, it's their trash.

Right. That they are throwing just out into space and we're just getting it by accident. Right. They're like, they think that bottle cap is a spaceship. They called it a transmedium object. that we threw out. Look at them. They're shit. Yeah. They called it a transmedium object. It's a fucking bottle cap.

So we are officially saying that birds are not robots, but fish and octopuses, octopi are aliens. Are aliens. Yeah, they came from space. That is canon. Mm-hmm. What is something you guys think is

underrated lisa you want to kick us off i'm gonna say um so dorky uh print magazines i think i i just think they should make a comeback because they're nice to read you can find some really obscure ones to subscribe to they do tend to pile up and then you like feel guilty about it and you're like should i recycle these or should i save them for later i don't know but i think they're great and i'm so i'm tired of email newsletters i prefer a physical object you want a zine i want a lot of zines i love zines love a zine i mean i feel like that's kind of been like our generation's response to the lack of printed material is like i I feel more and more like artistic folks, friends of mine. They're like, yeah, I got a zine coming out, working on a zine.

I love that. You know what I miss is like a really crappy, like black and white, like Kinko style zine. I think that too many are like nice now. They're like glossy. They're like full color risograph. I don't want that. I think you should have to make a shitty one to focus more on the content. And that's my cranky opinion about about zines right right right i love a good newsstand where you just like realize how many niche like zines there are and like yeah beautiful like beautifully photographed beautifully put together art directed art designed and then yeah and then it's like america American stool is just for chairs that don't have backs on them. Yeah. Only stools. I saw one that I think was like dedicated to like mushrooms, but it had like a guy in a robe with like really hairy shoulders, like picking up like a big crop of something.

But it looked like cool. It was like I would buy that magazine. But what the fuck could it possibly be it's it's wild the my my library carries zines like art that's art ones that are wild because so and i was looking and i say like these teenage kids looking at some like pretty like radical shit like in a zine i was like look at okay okay library keep that shit stocked for the youth them but yeah i definitely is there a magazine that you specifically really miss um not that i miss necessarily i subscribe to a bunch uh i subscribe to a weird one called

eclectic horseman which is like just a really nicely printed horse magazine okay and i subscribe to car and driver oh yeah lisa's a gearhead not really i don't i just like cars i'm a big fan you subscribe to car and driver i know the difference between being a gearhead. Not really. I just like cars. I'm a big fan. Yeah, but you subscribe to Car and Driver. I know. What's the difference between being a gearhead and liking cars? I don't understand how the cars work. I just like to read about them. Yeah, yeah.

I'm the same way. That's how I feel about trains, too. I'm always looking at luxury trains in Europe and Asia. I'm like, wow, this is really fucking interesting. I can't shake that childish obsession. Yeah, it's like a childish glee in something that goes real fast. So if you're a gearhead, what's like your dream? Like what's a supercar, like a big car, like some car in your mind?

You're like, you know, I would really like to drive one of those. Not necessarily the own, but like a vehicle you would like to experience. What would I like to experience? I like a lot of kind of vintage cars. I would like to drive like a little Nissan POW. Those are so cute. They're so cute. I've never driven one.

I mean, you know, there's a lot of like modern cars that are kind of exciting. I sat in a Rivian recently. Oh, that's pretty cool. But yeah, I don't know. I'm stumped. Yeah, I too am stumped because I'm anytime people are talking about cars my eyes just go dead and i'm just that's fair yeah you become chris pine in that press conference and i'm like supposed to right like as a guy you're supposed to like know shit about cars

no cars suck i mean it's probably better to be bored and to think that they should all be the same and the government should just issue like a toyota prius to every family yeah i'm not a gear head per se i'm like a exterior head right look at that car oh my look at that thing you know i'm not i couldn't tell you about like you know gear differentials and like that kind of real shit no i couldn't tell you a thing about it i do like to every time i see a pt cruiser i like to take a picture and post it to my finsta uh i don't know why i think they're like they're horrible but they're kind of like ugly in a really exciting way where i don't know makes me think of like the great gatsby or something just the way they look it feels like it's from an alternative timeline like yeah where like that's what cars look like. It's the Great Gatsby, but it's the Baz Luhrmann Great Gatsby.

It is. It's 100 percent. I was going to say it's Baz Luhrmann. Where they miss the point about wealth being empty and are just like, look how fun it is. Exactly. It's got wood paneling. Emily, what's something you think is underrated? I'm a broken record about this. The TV show Rutherford Falls. What's something you think is underrated? I'm a broken record about this. The TV show Rutherford Falls,

I know it's highly rated by critics and the people who watch it, but it is underrated by the network. They just canceled it. Peacock. They had two seasons on Peacock. It's just a delightful show that I really love. It's like, if you like classic sitcoms, but also want to see something new,

it's like the perfect marriage of modern groundbreaking while also the comfort of like a classic fun warm sitcom and i just love it so much and i really hope that it finds a new home damn yeah very sincere recommendation yeah it didn't get the axe because it was too diverse or telling stories that weren't purely like, you know,, like not pretending like they don't exist anymore. But I also just think that like Peacock didn't invest a ton in the show. Like they didn't advertise enough. They didn't promote it enough.

Like I just don't, I don't know exactly why it didn't find the audience that it needed to. Cause like Ed Helm stars in it. And like The office is like one of the biggest shows in the world like they should have been able to find the people who love that because they would also love rutherford falls i'm sure but um it's really hard to say like why i do think that maybe people thought it was more niche than it was i don't know it bothers me that networks see like a relatively smaller but still really

enthusiastic and dedicated audience as being less valuable right than a wider audience like i just it's like you're a streaming platform you can you can have multiple things for different audiences like not everything has to be i don't know but it also the show does have broad appeal so i think that it was a marketing problem frankly that's what i would blame yeah i feel like it's a michael schur show so like yeah something there is some disconnect there because i am just finding out i'm also like way behind on all this shit well and it's a kind of six-year-old but i kind of show that will will grow with each season too stop blaming them jack they wanted to watch the first two seasons of Rutherford Falls, and you said you didn't have time. Yeah.

They just didn't give it a chance. Yeah. Right. Well, good news for anyone who feels out of the loop because they haven't heard of it. You've got two seasons of a great show to watch. Yeah. It's great. Amazing.

I'm on it. And a TV recommendation for anybody who hasn't Googled you guys already. Yeah, I'd say you probably know it. Yeah, you guys kind of know what you're talking about. Emily is a writer, producer on Barry, and Lisa is the creator of Tooka and Birdie, among many other great people. Great designer of Yo Jack Horseman.

Yo Jack. That's right. I draw the horseman. Yeah, that's one of my favorite AKAs. Yeah. Did you guys think about suing Eclectic Horseman for copyright? Or did they think about suing Eclectic Horseman for copyright? Or did they think about suing you?

No, not at all. Okay. That was just parallel thinking, I think. It all was. Yeah, yeah. Eclectic Horseman is just a rejected character from BoJack. She's got a lot of stuff. Had too much going on.

Way too much going on. Yeah, right, right. All right, Miles, let's check in with Oz. What's going on with the good doctor? I think it can just be assumed at this point that Dr. Oz will do or say something so stupid and out of touch with reality that his like AIDS must be contemplating putting him in like a medically induced coma to like save the campaign. Just until Election Day. Just until. Yeah, just. Yeah. to like save the campaign just until election day just until yeah yeah just uh yeah you're

going in for a simple tooth whitening dr oz now inhale just now backwards from have you guys been following the video the i feel like the implication that his aides want to put him in a medically induced coma presumes that they are invested in him winning this election, which all evidence points to the contrary. There have been ample opportunity for them to intervene in some way, and they have not. They have made their stance clear. They want this man to implode. We were talking about this, too. Like, what is going on in there?

Right. Like, how are they allowing some of these ads to happen? what is going on in there? Right. Like, how are they allowing some of these ads to happen? And part of me really thinks just from like my time working in politics is like, because he's the principal, like he is probably running that campaign.

It's like, it's what I want. I don't care what you're saying. I want to see a bong come out of John Fetterman's head in this attack. And they're like, with a doing, and a couple of screws that fall out because they're loose right yeah i get it i didn't get it before when you described it but now he doesn't cultivate

an environment where you can say hey asparagus doesn't go on a crudite platter you can't really eat that raw um so i mean his like just to start off he, he's kind of shooting himself in the foot with triangulating, you know, who to get, who support to sort of garner. And he's been in a pretty terrible slump, I guess, since the whole campaign started. But once he secured the nomination, things started to turn around a little bit, mostly in the sense that Trump has been a little bit more like, hey, you know, Dr. Oz, he's all right. And then over the weekend, they did a rally. Trump said some nice things. It helped a little bit. But there are a few reporters who are like kind of like just gauging the temperature of the crowd. And a lot of people are like, I'm 50-50 on Oz, like these Trump supporters who are there cheering for him. And then others were like,

I mean, he's better than Fetterman. So I guess I'll hold my nose and vote for him if we have to. So basically, it sounds like he's MAGA Joe Biden right now. If you're a Pennsylvania or like MAGA voter, like a crisis vote, basically. Yeah, because they don't like him. They really don't like him. A lot of people who are interviewed in like his political piece are like, he's not from here. Like they're honestly they're like, they know they're like, the guy's not even fucking from here. But if that's what we got to do to like try and get a majority in the Senate, I guess that's what we'll do.

But two of his 11 homes are there, technically. That is true. And we just found out that another property owns in Palm Beach. He did it with a guy embroiled in an immigration fraud scheme. So he's got a lot of cool people around him. So right now, Oz knows he kind of needs this MAGA vote. So any opportunity he has to look like a Trump rubber stamp, like he should be taking. Right.

And so when he was asked like a day or two after the rally, they're like, hey, would you have certified the 2020 election? Everyone's like, what's he going to do? What what what path will you choose? Say yes. And you look like a lip say no and you get the MAGA people behind you but then you turn off all the swing voters he went with yes I would have certified the 2020 election I don't think at that point it's really our job to like you know meddle in what the electors have done We're just there to certify it. So do we think that's going to help him or hurt him?

I think right now it's, I think it's probably more than, he's probably looking at, I feel like the MAGA people know what time it is. So I'm going to say whatever I can to get these swing voters. And if I, you know, if I shed a few MAGA votes, then whatever.

I think at this point, I don't know. It feels like he's trying anything because he's really behind Fetterman in the polls. So maybe it's just kind of fucking throw anything at the wall at this point and see like what it gets us. But on top of all that, he's also just doing like more weird ass campaign stuff. Like with paid actors dressed as prisoners,

he's like been attacking Fetterman for hiring two convicted felons on his campaign. Just like, he's like, these people are felons and he's like been attacking federman for hiring two convicted felons on his campaign just like he's like these people are felons and he's hired them and so smooth brain over here decided it would be cool to have people dressed up in orange jumpsuits holding like prisoners for federman or like another felon for federman type signs as like just fucking outreach events and i think this is and they're only doing this because federman has said he's like against mandatory life sentences for people convicted of second degree murder and they're like you heard him he will let out all the felons and they will love him for that

which is the tack they're taking but aside from that a lot of people like those two people working for him they were wrongly convicted and had their sentences commuted. These aren't like stop just saying like he's got two convicted. They were wrong. They had to serve like decades in prison after being wrongly convicted. And he was just saying it's like this is part of his idea of like people need to have like chances to rehabilitate and like start anew rather than being like, all right, our fucked up laws has put you in this category as felon therefore peace out so infuriating every insult is so like bad and like just coming like it feels like he's cornered and like like he did he did that one video where he was like jogging the whole time to like contrast himself with john federman because he had like

a stroke and yeah it's just all like so mean-spirited and like just weird and like desperate and bitchy it's like it's a really weird look that he's going for it's who is that for too to just be like yeah screw you for being overweight like do you think that that gets people on your side it's just like your constituents aren't like everyone on the ford models roster like you're talking about normal people and you're out here being like oh i can't believe someone could be overweight and then they have a stroke what the heck is that right and a lot of people like what are you what what's normal to you and are you a doctor like just coming like shaming somebody for having like a health issue also it's like i know that the people for who like for whom an ad like that would be effective don't care about this information but like if you're just evaluating them on in terms of like health stuff

it's like dr oz has peddled the most unhealthy stuff in the world like he is responsible for so much misinformation it's like speaking of which i wasn't sure if i was gonna play this clip but a clip like in the last day or so came out when Dr. Oz visited the breakfast club talking to Angela Yee, Charlamagne Tha God and DJ Envy. And he was asked to that show on this network. And they're asking about like a real weird question. A listener put in about if he could have sex with their cousin. And they're like, Dr. Oz, can you weigh in on this oh my god oh no this is this is him answering very uh earnestly to cuffing season yeah cuffing season season that's right a second language english the second language

for me so okay okay so he said i can't stop smashing my cousin we hooked up at a young age and now in our 20s she still wants it no matter No matter how much I want to stop, I always give it to her. Help me. What advice would you give that person? Okay. And so now he has to be careful not to piss off Rudy Giuliani with his answer. Well, guess what? My man's triangulating constantly.

If you're more than a first cousin away, it's not a big problem. Okay, so second cousin. It's by the smell. I mean, they're laughing, but a lot of people are like, well, genetically, that's true. And I think he's offering that answer like there. But in this context, it's so weird. The guy's like, I can't stop having sex with my cousin. I don't want to make sure they're not your first cousin.

That's me. I'm Dr. Oz. Moving on. He goes on to talk about pheromones and how little girls don't like the way their dads like he's going to he's going to speak very confidently about some pheromone talk now. Classic example where you bleed a lot. If you cut yourself. Yeah, I don't know. It's him talking about hemophilia.

I was like, how is this going to turn into that? And you smell the blood and you're like, oh, no, I don't want to have sex with them. Out of context, Oz, it's a whole new Twitter page. He's talking about how pheromones will actually repel you from someone that is in your family. That's why if they stink, you're fine. That's why children, girls, don't

like their father's smell. Their pheromones will actually repel their daughters because they're not supposed to be together. My daughters hate my smell not supposed to be together. Right. And so a daughter will always... Don't wait. My daughters hate my smell. Well, maybe you just smell.

My wife says she likes the smell. My daughter loves asthma. She always says that. Yeah. How old is she? Six. Yeah, you wait. Okay.

By the time she's 12, young women become very attuned to smell. And every time I work out, they go, oh, you smell. Whereas my wife says... Yeah, my dad stinks. Yeah, so it's an inactivity of things that you don't like your parents smell. It forces you to look outside. And women will crave

usually men who smell very different from their relatives. So it forces you to find genes that are very different from yours. Wow. It also sounds like relatives right so it forces you to find genes that are very different from yours i buy it wow it also sounds like i believe it i'm 100 in i think that's right like in terms of like what we know about like genetics and like immune systems and and things like that yeah smells, smell's important. But do we need to talk about it?

Talk about your own daughter and her attraction to you? It's the only reason she doesn't want to have sex with me. Right. It's my smell. Otherwise. That was the underlying, that was the subtext.

Anyway, so that was from a few years ago. So, you know. I mean, it also does sound like he's trying to come up with a science reason why his daughter doesn't want to hang out with him. Doesn't like him, yeah. Yeah. Oh, just how old is she? Yeah, wait. Then she's going to say, can mom drop me off at the mall?

Yeah. Or say, can you please stop telling my friends about how the vagina is a self-cleaning oven when you're taking us to school games? Wow. One of his greatest takes. Just, I mean, yeah, there's like some science that he's getting at,

but like, it's, it's crazy that he thinks he should be a politician. Can't go on the breakfast club without being like, yeah, as long as it's not your second cousin. And my daughter doesn't like my smell in a sexual way. Cool. Cool. Cool, man.

I mean, you know, you're allowed to just be like, I don't feel confident weighing in on that. You know what I mean? Right. I don't think a reasonable case could be made that he's like, well, if I didn't answer that, the voters would think that I wasn't competent. Right. I feel

like he has never felt never been able to say that. And that is the problem. He's never been like, I'm out of my depths here, guys. Do not put me in a fucking grocery store. I haven't been in one of these in 35 years. I'm so rich. You guys

have no idea how rich I am. He's like, I haven't touched cash in like 30 years right yeah who uses that stuff that crap yeah what is this a celery cost 15 bucks I mean come on guys a celery I'm sorry what look you only need one stock see and you take that with you it's like that's not how you shop for produce, sir. What do you do? You stick this one behind your ear? I don't know.

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contentious or positive i'm actually mad at her but i'm not gonna say why so i'm just gonna be like mysterious about it and you guys can just just speculate why. Oh my God, you just made $1,000 somehow. Oh my God. The most popular motion picture to come out of Venice so far this year seems to be the GIF of Harry Styles possibly spitting on Chris Pine. I watched that GIF 5,000 times. What is your thought? I feel like this is the

news of pruder i i'm sorry to not be fun i don't think he spat i don't think he's he spit on him he didn't spit on him on purpose i don't think he did well didn't what fell what fell upon him my husband told me that it was that chris pine had lost his sunglasses and then he realized they were in his lap and that's the face he was making. But that doesn't make sense either because he had literally just put them down and then two seconds later, like pick them back up again. So what, what, what would. You've never done that? He just has like an incredibly short term memory. Yeah, he doesn't. I was like, whoa, sunglasses. It doesn't look like he's looking for them. So I don't know. I don't know if I buy that either. The thing is, it's like we've put them in a position and i think it's the same with leah

michelle being able to read we've put them in a position where it is not in their best interest to clarify the situation you know because like every other story about don't worry darling is like worse on them than this one somehow. And every other story about Lea Michele is worse on her than being illiterate. And so that's why they aren't just coming out and telling us what's actually happening. I do.

The more I watch it, if you want to see it as he's like, my sunglasses are down. I don't know, but he just puts them down. I don't know. He had just put them. But his reaction is baffling. He feels very unhairy to spit on another person.

It really does look like he got spit on, but that wouldn't make sense. Why? Who would spit on Chris Pine? He's widely regarded to be one of the nicest people in Hollywood. Chris Pine looks like he's preparing for the role of young Ben Franklin or something in this picture also. Like a hip young Einstein.

Wasn't that a movie? Right. Anyways, I think he did spit on him. Believe it or not. That's more fun. That's much more fun. Yeah, spit is obviously more fun. It is.

Because then Harry looks like a fucking evil villain. And then he's like, yeah, you good, homie? He spit on you in front of everybody. And then you're like, oh, Harry. Chris Pine's reaction suggested he could have been like, oh, my God, this guy just accidentally spit on me. Even if he did spit on me, he's like, oh, my God, what just happened? As opposed to like, this motherfucker. oh my God, what just happened?

As opposed to like, this motherfucker. Or he's like, oh my God, he just brought our private game into the public. That's the face that it looks like to me. It's just like, this is some weird inside joke or thing they've been doing. Well, embarrassingly, that clip only got a four minute standing ovation when it was screened.

So that does seem to be, there are movies playing besides The Gift. There are movies being debuted. There's a new Colin Farrell movie from Martin O'Malley, The Pillow Man, In Bruges, Seven Psychopaths. Is that how many psychopaths there are? I don't know. That guy. And the three billboards outside of Ebbing, Missouri. he he released his new movie which is colin farrell and that's got the record for the for this film festival 13 minutes standing ovation 13 fucking

all right so all of this seems so like everybody's talking about how embarrassing it is that white noise only got 100. So two minutes, 30 seconds of I just did that math, by the way. Well, 150 seconds ovation is how it's being reported. But I just did a little math and two and a half minutes. Don't worry, darling. Received a four minute one. And everyone is just treating this like it is the mathematical, like we no longer need Rotten Tomatoes or Metacritic

because we have these standing ovation metrics. It's not like a timeout at a basketball game. And it's like, let me hear the noise. And they're like, all right, the game's over because the crowd cheered at this decimal level for this duration like what it like it's not only that there's a timothy chalamet eight and a half minutes right like all the mediocre that was that was like a c plus but like people are pointing out so the don't worry darling one was cut off because florence pew like left the stage because

presumably she was wildly uncomfortable because a any standing ovation longer than two minutes see like what what do you do with your hands like how do you keep doing the same like modest you keep doing that thing with your where you like you know do a big bow where you wind up like you're emily if you had to if you had to do a some kind of physical affect gesture during your standing ovation, what are you doing? You guys act like I didn't used to be a professional comedian. This is something I had to deal with every day. Ten minute minimum standing ovation every set.

Getting to stage. You learn how to get comfortable with the public needing you that much. Yeah, yeah. I don't know what you do like that. You just that much. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what you do. Like you just dab. Yeah. That is really good. Dabbing by the way.

Emily just showed us her dabbing. Dabs. Dabaholics over here. Did you see that clip of Brendan Fraser just doing like an aw shucks, like he kicks at the ground. Yeah. Yeah. Super cute.

Yeah. It was like kind of like that was the only one I was like, good for that standing ovation. Nobody's mad at him. He was overcome with emotion to even be back at this point in his career where they're like, oh my God, the whale, you're fantastic and everything like that. And that felt like a little bit more of like a moment more than like these other ones are just like, I'm going to. Right. more than like these other ones are just like i'm gonna right where you understand that they're clapping for more than the movie they're clapping for like oh he came back yeah had a story that we didn't know and now we know more about him but i also just feel like how is it a measure of anything

other than like the knee strength of the people in the theater the knee strength of the people in the theater and also how long the person up there, like how well they're milking it and how long they want to milk for. Like it seems to be. You can always just start doing the Charleston and it'll keep going. Yeah, right. My nightmare. That's true. Standing ovations.

That is a great idea. They're a form of mass hysteria. I don't condone them at all. Right. Pan's Labyrinth received a 22 minute standing ovation, which like that just I can't imagine. A TV show with no commercials. I can't imagine being. That's a whole episode of Frasier.

Yeah. You get to watch instead of standing up and clapping. Yeah. And so they also just to put all of this in perspective, the idea that this is some objective measure of quality, they applauded for 10 minutes for The Beaver starring Mel Gibson and a beaver puppet. nobody really remembers except for it's the movie where nicole kidman pees on zach efron it ended up it ended up like coming out and getting like a 44 on rotten tomatoes and nobody really liked it or saw it you know that amc promo when nicole kidman where she's like in the theater watching can someone do a clip where she's just watching that scene of herself being just over and over someone please slow down

heartbreak feels good in a place like this in a place like piss they apparently have roots in ancient roman military celebrations for generals returning from campaigns like they would do a long-standing ovation and just everybody was terrified of being the first one to stop because these were people who could kill you or have you killed or you know people were paying attention and the you know the same thing is true at something like a film festival where everybody in the audience is either like a film, a cinephile or somebody in the industry. And you don't want to be the person who's just like, all right, you know?

Right. Yeah. Like there's going to be a there's going to be a consequence if you're the one who's sitting down. It's. Yeah. All the shit talking. They're like, did you see Emily and Lisa? They sat down i think the 15

minute mark yeah they did three minutes they they just let everybody else applaud around them unbelievable they're never gonna work again but that's the thing is like if you sit down if you're not in the front row no one can see you yeah because everyone else is standing up right yeah yeah no one thinks about this stuff the people so the people in the front row are usually people involved in the movie and they're also like have outside like a behavioral like scientist was comparing it to social media where there are the people up front are like the influencers who have all of the power because like they're the only ones that anyone can see so even if you're in the back row and you don't feel like doing a standing ovation

nobody gives a shit because nobody's looking at you they're only looking at the people in front of them and the people in the back row are in the cheap seats and probably likely to be the less powerful in terms of just like their role in the industry although sometimes you'll see those people just like leap to their feet the second it ends so what we really need is some kind of horn that someone can blow to be like you can sit down now and it won't be rude or like in a like an mc or like an efficient at a wedding because sometimes like at a wedding they're like oh please stand for like the couple to come down efficient at a wedding. Because sometimes at a wedding, they're like, oh, please stand for the couple to come down the aisle or whatever.

And usually, sometimes you're at a wedding and the efficient forgets to tell the people that are there to sit once everyone's at the altar. And then people will be like, do I fucking... The guy didn't say to sit yet. And it's like, oh, right. Please sit. Maybe you need somebody to be like, all right, y'all. Y'all can sit down. We can

sit down. Thank you so much. Brendan appreciates that. He's in tears backstage. All right. Good luck for everybody. We did it. Brendan Fraser, while he was overcome with emotion, was quietly under his breath naming everyone who had sat down. Like Arya Stark's

list. Your career is over. Yeah. Oh, shit. It's weird. I would never want to be involved in a standing ovation that lasted more than a minute yeah i was gonna say 90 seconds but maybe maybe a tight 60 yeah and it just feels like it gets like embarrassing after a while but then you can you can be the one to cut it off you can be all right they'll kill me you can be the one to cut it off. You can be like, all right, knock this shit off, man. They'll kill me. You could be the Florence View. Your career would be over. You could say, yo, I've had enough.

Thank you. Like, you've adequately honored me. Thank you. Oh, you're assuming it's for me. Yeah, that is a safe assumption, actually, that a standing ovation would be for me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Of course, of course.

Yeah, I regularly sit down before a standing ovation is over. It's so rare that I am in one, but also like, yeah, I have no qualms about, and if anyone confronted me about it, I would just be like, it has nothing to do with the quality of the work. I like sitting down. Yeah.

It's one of my hobbies. Right. I have hemorrhoids if you're really interested and it's uncomfortable to go up and down all the time. Okay. The one standing ovation i appreciated that was like kind of embarrassingly long but embarrassing for the right reason was when bernie came out at the 2016 democratic convention and the people like his supporters gave him a standing

ovation and like wouldn't let the speech begin for like 15 minutes and he was like thank you thank you and then just like over and over and it totally like interrupted the flow of the thing but it was good that it was embarrassing because it was like yeah you guys fucked this up big time yeah yeah also i was just like man we shouldn't make bernie sanders stand up for longer than he wants to. Yeah. He was so cranky. Seriously, shut the fuck up. Yeah, I can think of hardly anyone in the world who would probably, aside from Lisa, who would enjoy a standing ovation less than Bernie Sanders. Well, Emily, Lisa, truly a pleasure having you.

Yeah, I have to have you guys back again. Thank you so much for having us. Thank you. It was so fun. And now our 15-minute standing ovation for being on this podcast. Let's go. Let's go, listeners. Listeners, get up.

I don't care where you are right now. Just begin applauding with your headphones in. This is going to be an assumed standing ovation. You won't hear anything but silence. Right. Just pause it. Unpause when you're done. All right.

There you go. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can follow me online at Lisa Draws. You can follow me on TikTok at Lisa Hanawalt. There you go. I'm at Mr. Emily Heller on most things. Okay. Increasingly using them less and less.

Yeah. And also Baby Geniuses, too. Make sure you go. Oh, yeah.. Yeah. And also Baby Geniuses too. Make sure you go listen to our podcast Baby Geniuses. It's been going on for a very long time. And it seems like, I don't know why new people would listen to it. But we hear from new listeners a lot. And they seem to somehow figure it out. Yeah, definitely worth it.

Is there a tweet or some other work of social media that you guys have been enjoying? Can I talk about a TikTok trend that I like? Yes. So there's this trend of people running really fast while playing Ring of Fire by Johnny Cash. And they're just running full speed while carrying a bunch of objects, often at night, and staring blankly ahead. And it just has this vibe of like hanging out late at night and being an idiot with your friends. Like in one, it keeps cutting between two different kids sprinting while carrying boxes of pizza and like trying to eat them while running. And they often trip and fall. In some, people are running with animals and it's just like chaotic and clumsy.

And it kind of reminds me of that meme on my way to steal your girl. Oh, yeah. It has like a similar like goofiness to it. I really like it. Nice. Good. Lisa's algorithm is so much better than mine she always gets to see really cool tiktoks and mine are just horrible

i i have been enjoying a twitter account called hourly porn hub heathcliff which is a bot that combines real heathcliff comics but then it replaces the caption with comments people have left on porn hub videos oh my god oh my god it's surprisingly effective and there was one the other day that where because heathcliff is already so unhinged as a comic if you've been following it it's gotten weirder and weirder over the last decade but there was one the other day where it was heathcliff is signing for a delivery at the front door and there's a truck a delivery truck parked in front of the house that says mistletoe, like a big truck full of mistletoe. He's signing for a delivery of it.

And the two women inside the house are looking at Heathcliff from the window and commenting on it. And the caption is not even horny. I'm just sad. And that caption is from a Pornhub comment? That's from a Porn a porn hub comment got it but it seems like it could maybe work and like there's one where he's like throwing a snowman's head at another cat and then a kid is commenting eating ain't cheating good stuff i feel like it gives you a glimpse into two worlds I don't belong in.

Like the Heathcliff logic world and then also Pornhub comments, which I just don't think I would know what people were saying. It's amazing that people leave comments on Pornhub. Who are they commenting for? Yeah, like what is that doing? Yeah, like what is that doing? Nice work. Great job. Dude, it's wild how many people will complain in the comments as if the performers are going to read,

like it is a suggestion box, and they're like, okay, right, more tongue next time. Thank you. Yeah. I mean, that is what podcast comments are like too. I mean, I think any medium that is... Less uhs. Yeah, if there's access

to a person, they will be like, and this is my direct request to you, person who owes me nothing. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter and Instagram at milesofgray. Got two other podcasts. The first one is Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties.

That's our NBA podcast where we talk about the NBA. That's our NBA podcast where we talk about the NBA. Dumbest NBA podcast for three months running. Yeah. The dumbest. Yes, for sure. And also, look, if you like to get high, watch 90 Day Fiance. Well, then check out my other podcast for 20 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra, where we just talk about our favorite trash reality show.

Some tweets I like. The first one is from Sydney Battle. At Sydney Battle tweeted, every Midwestern person I meet loves telling me about an amazing food place they grew up with. And it always has a name like Clermpies. And then Brianna at She's the Man tweeted this video from TikTok. It says, POV, you're seeing a landline phone for the first time, LOL. And it's these two little girls who are absolutely fucking confused at a landline phone.

Like, you're like, I'll just play the audio because they cannot believe what's happening. It will ring. It will call me. Really? Yeah, it's a real phone. They're like, this isn't a real phone what is this oh wow what do i do now put it up to your ear she's holding the phone away what do i do now hold the receiver and it's wow the video's like a minute long and then they go to another phone and they're like are you recording this i'm like it's calling me and i just i'm like god shit is moving so fucking quick that we there are kids out here

who think this is some kind of yeah well have you ever asked a kid to mime talking on the phone because they don't do this thing anymore they don't do the shaka up to your face they just hold their palm in front of the face. I'm going to do that too. That's your kids. Right. This is why, look, if I have a kid I want to just raise them on landlines

and linear television. It's like a dog tooth but it's like early 90s. Instead of that weird world. Alright, some tweets I've been enjoying. Ana Hosnia at Ana Hosnia just asked a very good question. Does a frog have a

watertight asshole? Four question marks. I don't know. That's a good question. I hope so. Seymour at Brainwaves3000 tweeted, I bet Brendan Fraser really appreciates everyone treating him like he's a three-legged dog. And then Matt Johnson tweeted, I'm not capable of the emotional intimacy needed to check out at Trader Joe's.

It's a lot, man. It's a lot. Just say right on. Everyone's going through on right now right right on man and then be like hey man if y'all want to unionize i'll stay with y'all you know i know they're trying to fuck your shit up because trader joe's is trying to bust the unions so these snacks you got kids at home uh what no i'm a pothead man no kids at all i'm gonna eat i'm gonna fucking eat this whole bag of chocolate covered pretzels

because i'm like chocolate covered peanut butter filled pretzels now now we're talking hey look to each their own i get just a regular pretzel all right well uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and our website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.

Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? This is a track called Mind Games from Ganzo, G-A-N-Z-O. I don't know, it feels like funky music from the Sims. It's like if the Sims had better music, it would be this. Okay.

That's how I picture it. Or it feels like interstitial music in a video game, but really well done. And it feels like more music than kind of like MIDI stuff that we grew up hearing. So that's my best description at describing this sample-based track. But this is Mind Games by Ganzo. Amazing. Well, we will link off to that in the footnotes. This is The Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio.

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