The Daily Zeitgeist - Drake = Batman, 1 Dark YouTube Channel 40X Bigger Than GoT 11.16.15

Episode Date: November 17, 2017

In episode 30, Jack & Miles are joined by comedian Laci Mosley to discuss Twitter taking away verified checks from alt-right, Drake shaming a groper, Al Franken, a dive in to a creepy baby fetish YouTube channel, the new iPhone iOS update & more. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey. Beep, beep, beep. Ooh. I do my own sound effect. You do your own dance hall horn? Necessary. Lacey, what's something that you've searched in the last month that you think is revealing about who you are as a human being? Something that I've searched in the last month that's revealing about who I am as a human being.

I've been searching Lil Pump a lot recently. Goochie gang, goochie gang, goochie gang. Yes. Because I actually used him to prepare for a role. He's got a lot of inspiring music. Have you ever listened to lyrics of Lil Pump? No. I saw the Gucci.

Your mama's gonna live in a tent. Pow. Yeah. What? Horrible. Me and my grandma do drugs together. Yeah. One of the lyrics.

That's in Gucci gang, right? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, but he has lots of really good songs like that where he talks casually about murders. But he's 17. He looks really bad. He looks really bad for 17. Dude, he has a lot of tattoos on his face and neck.

And are his parents signing those permission slips? Because if you go to a tattoo parlor, don't you have to be 18 to get a tattoo? Maybe his grandma's signing them. So he raps about getting high with his grandma? Yes. All kinds of weird shit. I love doing fun stuff with my grandma, so it's nostalgic. You just get wavy off bars, too?

Nah, she used to let me drink coffee sometimes. Okay. That's on the spectrum. It's high. He was a SoundCloud rapper, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. um but okay so he was a soundcloud rapper right yeah yeah and now yeah his two minute song gucci gang is you know just it's a phenomenon right now it really made me like want to buy like a gucci t-shirt or like a gucci hoodie i'm gonna get one and he just dropped an album that is cartoon

version of himself on a jet ski yes uh in the middle is that miami in the background and i think he's drinking lean yeah on the cover see he's advocating drinking and driving yeah that's not good see kids don't follow this 17 year old into darkness right don't drink lean don't drink lean in general y'all drinking lean still and also how are you getting it because it's really expensive you gotta have money i know you know like houston like there was a drought of lean. A lean drought. Yeah. A flood and a lean drought. People were selling it, getting it out here, and shipping it into Houston because the demand was so high.

Anyway. Lean is what? Lean is a promethazine. Oh, lean. Like activists cough syrup, scissor, drank. It's like basically mixing an opioid with a cough syrup. It's like a pain-killing cough syrup. It's purple.

Purple drank. Yes. Double cups, everything like that. So Lil Pump, shout out to him for getting you prepared for your role. All right. What's something that you think is underrated? Underrated right now, first, the song Lemon by N.E.R.D. Yes.

More people should be listening to it. Turn it on. Dance with your friends. It's lit. Also, Nicki Minaj's paper magazine cover. I don't know if you guys have seen it, but it's three Nicki Minaj's like pose next to each other. So you like it. You're saying this is underrated?

Yes, I like it. And I think that more people should be like, it was more interesting to me than the Kim K paper magazine cover. Even though Nicki Minaj is naked all the time, but this one, she's naked. And she seems to be like giving herself. Minaj-ing herself. Minaj-ing herself. She's giving oral to herself. Ménaging herself. Ménaging herself. She's giving oral to herself. Like nearly every photo.

Yeah. But you know, that's very empowering. Women should just start giving oral to themselves. Giving yourself head? Yes, absolutely. You don't need no man, girl. Get your millions of dollars and then give head to yourself. Top yourself off.

The one thing that was really weird was her long weave and her butt crack. Yeah. In that one photo. Do you cut off that hair? You know what I mean? Like if it her long weave in her butt crack. Yeah. In that one photo. I was just like, do you cut off that hair? You know what I mean? Like if it's been sitting in your butt crack. I mean, I'm sure her butt crack's clean. As much as she's got it out, it's got to be pretty squeaky.

Okay, cool. She's about to do things with herself, so she's definitely going to clean that part of her body for sure. But then also if it's like, do things with herself. It's your own brand, so therefore you can't get sick drinking your own pee. That's true. Also, I think that the new emojis are really underrated on the iPhone. There's a new tongue out emoji that, hold on, let me show it to you so you can see what it looks like. Jack, you might be able to describe it in a way that I can't.

You're about to do stuff with yourself. Is there like a cement truck backing up? You're about to do stuff with yourself. Is there like a cement truck backing up? There is a cement truck, by the way, backing up and about to dump a lot of cement into our recording studio, but just pay no mind. Ignore that. Wait, so goofy. This is a new emoji? Yeah.

Do you have to get that with iOS 11? Yeah, you have to update, and then you have to get that trash thing where it replaces the A question mark thing with the I. It's trash. I have yet to update to iOS 11. Yeah, we'll question mark thing with the I. It's trash. I have yet to update iOS 11. Yeah, we'll touch on that later, though. Here's a hot tip. If you're having issues with the I on your keyboard, go to your keyboard and then go into the settings and replace the letter I with the lowercase I. And it fixes almost all of it.

But see, you shouldn't have to do that if you're paying $1,000 for your cell phone. I know, I know, I know. Which is also underrated to meet the X. Ever since Steve Jobs died died everything's been trash and if i wish we could just bring him back to life like damn pancreatic cancer um but i love the new tongue out emoji because there's already two tongue out emojis but they look mad like i could never text a guy i've never texted a guy ever in my life a tongue out emoji like unless i was trying to like because yeah you know have sex with him. It looks a little salacious.

It does. And men always assume it is, even if you're just trying to be like, rock out. Right. This one is silly. This one's fun. Yeah, this one's like friend zone tongue emoji. Like, you know the deal. I remember simpler times when I used to just misinterpret a winky face emoticon when I was like, why is she doing the winky face, though?

Like, rather than a regular smile. Now there's emojis. Anyway, get to know that there is a new emoji that seems more platonic and just sort of middle, middle of the road. Yeah. It's like a safe space emoji. Yeah. Okay, cool. All right.

What's something that's overrated? I mean, well, I know you guys already touched on Blake Shelton, but obviously he looks like a boiled piece of chicken. I saw that on Twitter and I was like, that's accurate. But I do want to say this quickly. You know, Blake Shelton did bring America together yesterday. So we do need to acknowledge that. Like black Twitter, gay Twitter, white Twitter.

We can all agree that Blake Shelton is ugly. And we haven't been able to agree on anything in a long ass time. So thank you for being trash, Blake. Thank you so much. And you think the new iPhone is overrated, right? Absolutely. It's smaller than the iPhone that we have now. It doesn't really do much that's different.

Every now and then they, like, jank with the camera a little bit. Right. But, like, it's just for paying $1,000 for a phone, like, come on, bruh. And then every time we update, I was told at a Verizon store, if you update past your phone capabilities, it'll immediately start glitching. Because the whole point is so that you have to get the new phone eventually because it just gets on your nerves so much. This is something we will be touching on. We have a segment coming up.

We will talk about that. We have ideas about this. All right. And before we get into format, what is a myth that you, like, based on your experience, you know, the zeitgeist has certain understandings of how the world works, and you have your own unique experience. What's something that we all have wrong? Well, not to say that we all have it wrong, but I do think that the term affirmative action, which resurfaces every now and then kind of is like a red herring to galvanize a certain

group of people. Affirm affirmative action always seems like you know just like a black lady with 17 kids eating chicken uh you know getting checks baby um when in fact like affirmative action especially i guess uh i'll make it even more niche than that like in terms of like public education um the people who benefit the most from affirmative action and public education is white women. And I see so many white women online all the time talking about affirmative action and like how they didn't. I mean, obviously, the Abby case with the UT, which happened years ago. But even still today, like it's this polarizing topic of like, oh, these minorities getting into school and they don't have to work as hard as us. We're still severely unrepresented um if you just talk in

general as minorities in colleges and women make up 56 percent of public universities right now and the majority of that is caucasian women so it's like i hope that at least caucasian women and men who claim themselves to be feminists even if you're a white feminist uh will realize that affirmative action is not something that you want to debunk. And this is and you used to work in college. Yeah, I used to work in college admissions at the University of Pittsburgh. So I would help students get their admission packets together. I would give them tours. I would give them education on schools.

Oh, one more random little thing. If anybody is that young listening to this or if you have kids, you know, all that follow your dream shit that people be telling their kids when it comes to public institutions don't do that shit debt is crippling okay if you got a school that's cheap go to that cheap school because if it was free it was for me like yeah yeah yeah because i hear like i would always have students come in and they'd be like you know my dream school is this but i also got into the school that's pretty comparable and i'd be like get out of here leave you already got accepted why are you here right go home don't go into debt no because that will ruin your life and your relationships ain't nobody marrying nobody with a bunch of debt no more i want to know your credit score i need to know your fico i need to

know how much you asked for our credit score just to be on the show i did just even being next to you miles you never know what could happen by association exactly no i respect that yeah but that's how you get bad credit. Dating people with bad credit. Next thing you know, you're putting stuff in your name. And then, you know, they're replying your car. That's all I'm saying. All right. That is a great debunking of a myth.

Thank you, Lacey. We're going to get into format. So the Daily Zeitgeist, we're trying to take a sample of the ideas that are out there changing the world, whether we're looking or not. We talk about politics and the president and news, but we also talk about movies and supermarket tabloids because those affect the ideas people have up in their dome piece. The covers of tabloids still get passed by millions of people every day because everyone still needs to buy milk. So let's get into what's going on in the news right now. We had an eventful day yesterday on Twitter. Twitter went through and took away the blue checkmark from certain alt-right slash Nazis, white supremacists on Twitter. And this was immediately compared to the Holocaust by certain alt-right people.

Like advocates of the Holocaust. A young woman named Laura Loomer. Was very outraged she got her little blue check taken away. Right. And for people who don't, you know, you're not on Twitter all the time, in the early days of Twitter, like these blue verified check marks that would show up next to your avatar were like for celebrities. And at the time, like, and like, you know, big public figures.

And it felt like that was your way of differentiating yourself on Twitter, being like, no, I am this actual person. I'm a person of interest. And more and more people wanted to get them. And then I think last week or earlier this month, people saw that the guy who put together the Tiki Torch rally that ultimately claimed the life of Heather Heyer, the guy who put together the tiki torch rally that ultimately claimed the life of Heather Heyer, they noticed that he had gotten a verified check and they were outraged because a lot of people began seeing this as Twitter sort of co-signing or endorsing people by giving them verified checks. And they said, hold on, let's re-tinker this. And then yesterday, boom, people like Richard Spencer losing their verified check, Baked Alaska, very big Twitter troll.

He was permanently banned. And, yeah, the reaction was not a mature one. There's a lot of, yeah, I think. Sounds like Twitter is carrying out its own, quote, final solution for conservatives. That is an actual quote. Yeah. You're not just saying that as a joke. That is a quote from Laura Loomer's Twitter.

Right. So I don't I wouldn't say that that as a joke. That is a quote from Laura Loomer's Twitter. Right. So I don't – I wouldn't say that you're a conservative. I would say that you're like a girl about the ethnostates, white nationalism kind of thing. So I don't – there are good conservatives out there who don't share the same beliefs as you, Laura. Right. And then she did a tweet that she started to the left and then quoted that poem by Martin Niemöller. First, they came for the socialists. Then they came for the Jews. Then they came for me.

She just put that out there just so you guys know where she's coming from. It's odd that people who probably subtly are Holocaust deniers are now suddenly being like, this is like the Holocaust that I don't believe is – She quoted the I have a dream speech. Right, right. Oh, gosh. Problematic. It's just wild. People love to quote that speech.

And Baked Alaska, he went on an eight-hour rant on YouTube, like video rant, like walking on an in-and-out parking lot. Yeah, and then he asked some guy in a car, he's like, what do you think about this? And this British guy was like, well, Twitter's a private company, so they can do whatever they want. Right. That's their prerogative. And it's interesting how many of these people are treating Twitter as if it were a right or a utility paid for by taxes or owned by the government, which would allow you certain First Amendment rights. But this is a completely different animal.

Right. Well, and also they don't need to, like, verify you. That's a privilege that they can give out or take away. So like the process to get verified, you can request a verifying account. Like there is a form you can fill out, but that is typically not the easiest way to do things because they'll usually ask like, you know, if you write for a magazine, you can say, Hey, I write for dot, dot, dot magazine and I want to get a verified account. They'll typically ask you for, you know, proof in the form of articles and things like that, just to make sure that you're not just some thirsty person who just wants a blue verified checkmark.

Because a lot of people do want that checkmark just to appear like they are. Yeah, it's kind of a status symbol, but it's it's also completely subjective based on twitter and like there are people who have fewer followers than me that have a blue verified check uh probably because they have like publicists or managers or agents and i'm totally fine with that because i don't think i need to be verified it's never like nobody's ever tried to pretend to be me or anything pretend to be you oh shit and get a verified yeah right i didn't know I'm really inviting that now, aren't I? Right, right, right. People are making fake Twitter accounts for you right now, Jack.

Oh, shit. I'm going to get this verified. I mean, I want the verified check. Yeah. Just so I can flex on everybody. Right. But I have friends who have it. But that's all.

That's the only reason. Yeah, and they said, a few of my friends said that it appeared overnight that they didn't even have to go through a process. And I believe them. Yeah, like comedians and stuff like that. The Twitter fairy just came and blessed and instagram like sometimes you can't reach out to them at all but they will like find you right because i know a number of people who yeah they use publicists and typically that's one way to get it as well if you're not doing it through like the twitter request form that they have on the website right but i feel like yeah so this is to to act like it

is a right to be verified is pretty crazy. I think it's, you know, it's especially important to people who are like Internet famous and only Internet famous. And I think that's the case for a lot of, you know, right wing people. And so to have your huge badge of Internet fame taken away from you is it hurts. Yeah, it stings. Like I said, I want it just to flex. It's a vanity thing. hurts yeah it's mostly it stings like i said i want it just to flex it's a vanity thing yeah it's not totally i mean unless you are someone who is like having their words misrepresented or whatever that may be a good reason to have one but other than that i mean

come on i mean do i have a blue check mark photoshopped into my twitter icon sure yeah i do but like that's just but we all know it's bullshit because it's in your avatar photo and not next to it we know how to spot the fakes. Yeah, but, you know. Acting like a SoundCloud rapper. Yeah, and it's important to note that, so the woman who, Laura Lumere, who is comparing this Twitter, quote, purge to the Holocaust, she didn't get kicked off Twitter. She just lost her blue check. Right. She just lost her little vanity thing.

So, yeah, this shows you. So, kind of like the Holocaust in a lot of ways. lost her blue check. Right. She just lost her little vanity thing. So, yeah, this shows you. Kind of like the Holocaust. Right. Another thing to note about this poor woman, Laura Loomer, aside from getting her verification taken on Twitter, she was earlier this month also banned from Uber and Lyft because she kept tweeting about her inability to find a car driven by a non-Muslim. So, look, you're taking L's left and right, Laura Loomer. You're already double L.

When Uber is like, nah, man, this person is just too bad of a person for our product. Yeah, Uber. Uber. Uber. We're good on you forever, girl. You can walk. Bike? Can she get a city bike?

City bike's like, nah, you can't have this either. Too racist for our bikes. They won't even give her a MetroCard. And also, look, there is a platform for people of the alt-right to go and say their crazy shit. It's called Gab. So just go on there. But I think the fact that people don't want to go there or they want to stay on Twitter just shows you that they get off on being on a platform where so many people will get, like, you know just turned up off their really like problematic, racist, whatever xenophobic tweets. Right.

But if you do that in your like echo chamber where everyone agrees with you, then it's just going to be a lot of people being like, yeah, dude. Right. That's right. Rather than, you know, the cups and snowflakes are like, I can't believe you're saying this. Right. So that is a good impression of me. All right.

Let's move on to looks like Canada is winning again, beating America again. Drake stopped in the middle of a song to shame a groper in a crowd. Yeah. It was in Australia, I guess. Right. Yeah. In Australia. He was doing, I think, an after party for a show and doing Know Yourself, which, Jack,

you said is one of your favorite Drake songs. One of my favorites. Yeah, and he saw a guy in the crowd apparently just, like, touching on women, and he just says, yo, do we have a clip of that? We'll play a clip of it. Here we go. You didn't do this to me. It's in my box. Yo, stop that shit.

If you don't stop touching girls i will come out there and fuck you up and then the crowd was like and then he follows up i'm not playing if you don't stop putting your hands on girls i'm going to come out there and fuck your ass up wow rappers out here like a couple canadian rappers they're they're doing right they're doing right stopping in the middle of a song to shame someone who is groping women so drake you done it again canada does it again also australian groping women. So, Drake, you've done it again. Canada does it again. Also, Australian gropers are very conspicuous in their groping. He was like,

he could see from the stage that this dude was just out there groping different women. Very aggressive mouth groping. Yeah, that is aggressive groping. Hey, speaking of aggressive groping, you guys, Al Franken. Bad news, guys. Bad news. Bad, bad boy. Bad man. Al Franken. sort of have his shit together representing Minnesota in the U S Senate. And,

you know, had a comedy background was a something to aspire to for, for all us comedic people who take ourselves too seriously. He fucked up. He apparently wrote a sketch where he and this woman who he clearly had some feelings for, where they kissed, and then he used that to just force a kiss on her that she said she felt disgusted and violated. And then there's a picture of him when she's asleep on the flight back to America, I think, pretending to grab her chest, which is, it's just like,

he's clearly, like, thinks he's doing a bit, but, like, it's totally understandable. Like, I don't know, nobody likes to see something like that, a picture of them when they're unawares. That's fucking creepy as fuck. asleep unawares that's fucking creepy as fuck um so he he's apologizing but they're going to do a uh a senate ethics committee uh that'll look into this and i don't know man it's just it's not good everybody everybody's a creep fucking hands to yourself assholes yep it's not that fucking hard it's not it's not that hard especially the

times that we live in especially when men are saying that there's a witch hunt right a witch hunt for men who are attacking women oh yeah it's like why even put like think twice you think like i think a lot of women are very happy about the kind of cultural shift that's happening right now because of the fact that it's like men don't have to think twice because we're human beings we were never going to accomplish that but at least you have to think twice because you might not be able to eat next week right right like oh do i want this check or do i want to harass this woman like which do i want it's uh i mean look and then take a photo like damn yeah the photo is yeah clearly a joke but it's a joke in very poor taste and this is all before he was actually

became a senator and while he was still doing comedy, but yo, you can't like, if you know, like her account is basically that he kept being like, Hey, let's rehearse the case, force a kiss on her. Yeah.

That's trash, man. So we got to take our trash out on the left and the right. Sorry. Are we sure he wasn't a Senator at the 2006? He became a Senator in 2009. Okay. Um,

yeah, I, I don't know. It's, uh, but I, the thing that blows my mind is like Mitch McConnell, He became a senator in 2009. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. But the thing that blows my mind is like Mitch McConnell, like within minutes, is like, well, we're going to have to probably have to launch an ethics investigation. Meanwhile, pussy grabber. Yeah. And also like straight up pedophile.

Like it took him a while to figure out if he believed the accusers or not, which is, you know, like it's politics, whatever. But I think, too, you also see some outlets on in conservative media trying to compare this to Roy Moore, where Roy Moore is clearly a criminal and done things that are criminal. Yeah, this is like this. But this is still you're violating a person's personal agency. So, you know're both can't tolerate that shit yeah and also this is the first accusation that remains to be seen if you know like roy moore had one accusation come out and then uh you know a bunch of other women were like you know finally somebody can like so i don't know we it remains to be seen uh you know if this is the only thing that Al Franken has done, obviously it's terrible, but there are levels to this shit. But, yeah, it's just frustrating because I don't know. I mean, he's a comedian. I mean, I hate to say that about comedians, but all male comedians need to start policing themselves super hard as a woman who came up in comedy.

Like every form of comedy I've ever experienced has always come with a good amount of sexual harassment like to the point where we just know like okay well let me put on my turtleneck before i do my type 15 and you know keep my keys between my fingers and my mace on my keys you know never know you're gonna have to stab somebody do people ever be like hey uh i like wrote this sketch i want you to be in it i've been in situations like that i've also been in situations where i was on a set and like we had to kiss in the scenes but the guy like we maybe we didn't have enough time to talk about what kind of kissing it was going to be and they like slip some tongue in my mouth i was like yeah this ain't your oscar moment what you think this is

i'll bite it yeah well look you know again again, with people like Al Franken and all that, yo, trash is trash. Right. There's no party loyalty. Although it's interesting, right? Because, like, even for us being liberal, you see this and it hurts because you think, like, man, like, you think someone is principled like that, like he's above it. But, yo, like, at the end of the day, can't defend that shit. I do want to say one quote that I thought was interesting that I saw recently. If 40 men say that a woman is like a hoe or like promiscuous everyone just believes that woman is

like a hoe like she's promiscuous right but if 40 women come out and say that a man is a rapist it's still something that we have to sit here and question but at least we're now we're starting to shift that's beginning to shift slightly thank you jesus yeah got it man so all right we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right back. When you think of Mexican culture, you think of avocado, mariachi, delicious cuisine,

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Listen to Spiraled on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. What a break, huh? What a break. We have fun. So we wanted to talk about one of the creepier things we've come across on the Internet that is apparently taking up a huge portion of the mind share of our fellow human beings based on the view count. So it is a channel called Toy Freaks. Toy Freaks.

So this is there's been some controversy on YouTube kids lately. The New York Times recently wrote an get him to sit still for, we will show him YouTube kids. And it's just like a long line of videos that are cartoons or, you know, educational in some way. York Times pointed out that there were also things that had somehow slipped past the filter that, you know, featured familiar characters and grotesque scenarios. Do you believe that on the Internet? No. Familiar characters and grotesque. But, like, one was the Paw Patrol dog. One of the Paw Patrol dogs committing suicide. One was Spider-Man urinating on Elsa from Frozen.

Just, like, weird animated shit right like on the in the thumbnail it's like oh it's like hulk and spider-man playing with elsa and then when you watch it it's this like dark like weird thing that if you were a kid you'd just be mad confused right but um so there's another set of videos that is apparently controversial that i forget how we even stumbled across it. So YouTube has gone through and tried to clean up videos, but these videos, the Toy Freaks account still falls under the kids category. To get you in the right mindscape, like imagine if John Waters made a children's movie for seven dollars and you kind of get the idea. It's like gross out humor, weird costumes, like really over the top behavior. And it generally just like feels like the sort of nightmare you'd have if you like as your brain melted from a 108 degree fever like it's just really really weird yeah and i think what's really kind of off about these like

so in this channel specifically toy review channels and that genre of youtube videos are very popular and mostly it's like kids unboxing new toys and playing with them and like other kids love watching that because it's pretty innocent because it's just like oh wow i'm watching this kid play the toy this morning you get to exactly then you start getting into these channels that like walk this really weird fine line so in this channel specifically it's this father uh i don't see a mother ever and it's and his two, they're like six and eight, roughly. And the whole time, like, he has his daughters acting like babies. Like, they're wearing onesies and have pacifiers and, like, pigtails.

They throw tantrums. And one of their biggest videos, so it's kind of like this odd line of, like, forced infancy, where these little girls are clearly not babies, but they're meant to act like babies. And yeah, Lacey, you're looking at me with the craziest looking at, oh, let's,

let's like look at a clip so you can kind of understand like what this is even kind of about. Yeah. So Lacey is seeing all this for the first time. Okay. Live reaction, Joe. Ew. He has a blender halfway full of milk and. Gonna give me a banana shake. Oh, yeah. Ew. It's gonna be good.

He has a blender halfway full of milk, and now he's putting a banana in it and calling it a banana shake. And going, ooh, that's gonna be good. Ooh, that's gonna be good. It's the first time that Miles was watching this on his computer. I was like, why is Miles watching porn in the office again? Right, it sounds like porn. No, I'm just joking.

This some freaky shit. No, look, I went to those court-mandated class. I'm going to stop doing that. So a lot of the imagery is just really, really fucking dark. So why are we talking about this video? Because it is insanely popular. One video where they go to a grocery store has 670 million views.

They go to a grocery store and one of the girls exclaims that she has diarrhea. So that's, it also has like weird scat humor and like weird sort of combinations of like baby stuff, but then like gross out stuff. But

to put that in perspective, 670 million views. If it were a TV show, it would be 40 times more popular than game of Thrones. Right. And no one's ever heard like no adult. I mean, I,

I, I did not know about this till a friend of mine pointed out to me. Right. So this is, yeah, it's a phenomenon that is con is just gone completely under, like, the radar of most people. Do we think these are kids watching this? That's what we can't figure out.

So that's why we are trying to figure out, like, who is this for? Because, yeah, like, Lacey still has the craziest look on her face. I can't take this look off my face. Oh, my God. I got to take a shower. That's not right. Who is this man pipping at these little poor children? I know.

And then they're, like, always he's like spilling stuff on themselves they like put right in their mouth and then pretend to vomit and spit it out and it's like it it could be that like this just my initial thought was maybe this is for a very specific like developmental span in like children's development like maybe from 24 months to 27 months like your brain is just broken enough that this is like what you need to see or something um but all parents like the comments seem to be as baffled as us so we're like it's not clear who's really watching it's a pedophile's wet dream that's it's it's weird so that's the thing is like because it hasn't translated to the zeitgeist at least openly like nobody really knows about it it makes you wonder if that's what's going on if it's

like secret like viewership yeah and i think you know there are a lot of people have talked about this channel like their repeat their essays written about it on medium uh which you know like to quote it they're they're saying like a lot of the activities in the video which many many viewers feel border on abuse and exploitation if not crossing the line entirely including videos of the children vomiting and in pain and there was another write-up saying that like you know in these videos there's a lot-up saying that like you know in these videos there's a lot of disturbing content like they're just like this odd fetish vibe of like fathers putting the young daughters under extreme pressure and pain and stress and anxiety

and just basically filming it and you know like one of their like latest videos uh at the time was like the following his little girl into the bathroom and film her as she's crying in severe pain with like blood flowing from her mouth and her tooth coming out and another one is like he jumps the two girls while they're taking a shower and dumps a bucket of frogs into their tub while like filming them and you know this is like weird voyeurism yeah i don't like the clothes they're wearing he got him in like baby thought clothes those pajamas were tight as hell uh-uh i know what's happening here they need to get that man. They need to pull him to his house.

He has like a weird vibe too. Like he's, I don't know. When he was making that smoothie, he was like, oh, it's going to be so good. Right. And at times he has a pacifier in his mouth and he'll mimic like the sort of like emotions of a child. It's really, really weird. And another thing too is like when you look at the tags, you tags, some people are suggesting that some of the tags in the videos,

when you're searching, they kind of align with BDSM and fetish culture by using terms like freak daddy and bad baby. Freak daddy? Yeah, and these discipline themes. It's a very, very odd thing. But the thing is with YouTube because this is in the considered like a child category they can monetize this kind of stuff and there's you know if you look at websites like social blade who do like analytics on channels some of the estimates that their

channel's worth is between 1.2 and 16.3 million dollars right ad revenue right so like on the conservative end they're making like a million dollars a year off of this. This looked like Lindsay Lohan childhood. Right. I don't approve. Yeah. It really seems, I don't know. It's difficult to imagine what things are like when the camera turns off, but it seems like it must be a very strange life for those kids.

Yeah. And this also kind of like earlier this year, there was this whole controversy in May of this channel called Daddy of Five, where this dad basically lost custody of his kids because his videos that he was posting were, like, he called them pranks, but the courts were like, no, this is straight-up child abuse, and you're calling it a prank, like, really tormenting his kids mentally like having his sons like slap his daughter and and like being like oh it's cool to hit your sister but like not all women but if it's your sister it's fine it was just very disturbing and like like they got found out and this is you know this is all kind of a lot of this stuff is now coming to the surface because already their

most popular video i think has been taken down off YouTube. Yeah, the grocery store one where one of the girls says she has diarrhea. I was assuming it was because they actually go into a grocery store and film in a grocery store, which is like the one if you've ever made like a student film, you know, the one thing you can't do is just like show thousands of brands and like logos. But and they also go into a McDonald's at one's uh at one point so i'm assuming that's why that one was taken down um also these kids don't have any rights to this material it's not like when you have kids in television where now there's so many protections against them and trust funds and stuff for money and things like that these kids have no access to any of this money they're not in a union their dad's just making all this money off of them and they're gonna grow up with no consent of this stuff like the the real question is kind of like you know like are these actual just fetish videos masquerading around as kids videos yeah i mean

another we compared it to game of thrones but to compare it to some other youtube videos that have been extremely popular and have like made a splash in the zeitgeist. So Double Rainbow, everybody remembers that the guy who's just clearly on mushrooms and freaking out about seeing two rainbows and Rebecca Black's Friday song. Those videos have 44 and 114 million views, respectively. These videos, like every one of the videos, like so many of the videos just dwarf that like they write a lot of their videos have tens of millions of views more than Rebecca Black's Friday song. I don't know. was saying that he, you know, when he went and watched this, he got an ad for Legos,

presumably because his computer was listening to him and he actually does collect Legos. But he's like, does is this what Lego wants? Like, do they want their ads running before content? When he said the Lego ad ran before a video where the dad films his daughter taking a pee on the other daughter. Right. Because she wets her pants while sitting on the other daughter's lap. And then she's like, I'm going to have to potty train her. Oh, my God.

So, yeah, I mean, again, there's a lot of fetish-y videos that masquerade around as information. There was another mom on YouTube who got under some scrutiny because she has like a breastfeeding channel and they allow certain breastfeeding videos on youtube as like you know informational yeah but this woman would like breastfeed her kids and talk about having sex or like telling people to like you know go to her paypal to make like custom content and that was you know people like this is just you're exploiting your kids and like just very disturbing stuff and the the thing to go along with like advertising on youtube like they've had a very interesting year because you know earlier a lot of advertisers left youtube because they didn't realize their ads

were being served in front of like straight up like racist uh like really inflammatory content and they were like wait we don't, we're not paying you to serve our ads in front of this kind of thing. And they cracked down. And then a lot of creators on YouTube were complaining that like, Hey, this is taking a shot to our revenue. And then now with this, you know, it's like, I, I wonder if these companies who are having their ads served on this would maybe take a look at this and say, do we want this? But you never know, because the way it works is with these ads, like Google determines on which videos to serve the ad just based off all their information they have. So it's not that Lego would say, hey, I want this in front of it.

It's because the algorithm is like, we can find someone who this fits the demographic and they're viewing habits on YouTube. This is probably the best ad. I mean, I do keep coming back to the idea that this might just be a home run for a very specific developmental bandwidth. Right. Because the only other time I've been just floored by the number of YouTube views on something was just this really terrible series of computer animated things that were like kids songs, computer animated. And they're terrible. Right. And to the point that I was like, no, we're not showing them this. We'll just show Sesame Street.

And I guess that's one thing. If that's what's going on and parents are showing their children this because they're entertained by that, children are also entertained by things that are developed by actual professional child psychologists and experts like Sesame Street and, you know, a lot a lot of children's entertainment that is like by the professionals. I feel like that's one place where it might make sense to actually kind of keep that barrier of entry up a little bit so that we're only dumping stuff into our kids brains that has been sort of filtered through somebody with some expertise.

Yeah, not older kids play acting like they're babies and like in just really odd situations. Well, they're being directed by an adult. Right. It's not even like the kids are coming up with this stuff. And that's what's sick to me about it. It's like, is he telling the daughter to pee on the other daughter? Like, what? I mean, not that like she's's actually peeing but like it you know

it's made to look like you know she wet herself while sitting on her sister's lap right or whatever so it's just all like the situations are weird yeah like it so again it walks this very fine line of like yeah you could see it as this guy just has a weird you know uh aesthetic sense for his videos and also who knows if this is serving a darker purpose so yeah so uh we'd love to hear from you guys anybody who is familiar with this and who has watched it and has some familiarity we won't judge we're just curious like who who's watching this and why this these videos have so many views or uh if uh you're the guy who makes them, uh, you, you weirdo, um,

let, let us know. Uh, we're, we're just curious. We won't judge. Uh, you can get us at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram or at daily zeitgeist on

Twitter. Uh, and then our Facebook page is the daily zeitgeist. So yeah, we are curious, but it makes, it makes sense why I think it's like developmental sweet spot because to fully formed adults watching it, we're're like this is fucking weird as fuck yes at best yes i

think it's because it's being made by a fully formed adult if this was like two girls with a camera and they just let them write free and then someone uploaded it to the internet i'd be like oh yeah totally kids but the fact that there's a grown- ass man in the bag. Oh, yeah. You know, that's not right. It's his gaze. Yeah, it is. It's coming from an adult, an adult gaze. Yes. So, I mean, I guess it's just another example of what we were talking about earlier with, you know, Twitter having to call the herd of people who they verified. It's like, you know, the Internet, in theory, great. And I'm always pro free speech. But there are these uses of the Internet that are bubbling up that are pretty troubling and, you know, might need to get dealt with. All right. So we're going to take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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just something that has sort of been on our mind. We touched on it a couple weeks back. So a couple weeks back, Apple released iOS 11. We were getting reports that when you upgraded iOS 11 on iPhones 7 and below, it would kind of burn through your battery real quick. Like and so I still haven't upgraded to iOS 11. And why would you with all these crazy ass typos? I don't even know.

Like like you're saying, Lacey, with people getting the weird a box thing. I don't like I'm already very suspicious of like iphone updates when they come out because i'm always like i'm never gonna be the first one to do it but now they trick you you know how many times like i hood winked into an iphone update oh right because like the new software is available install now yeah well not even the install now sometimes if you swipe past that it'll pop your screen code up to be like do this and we'll just install it tonight right oh right yeah and then you think you're logged out of your phone and you do it. They're not slick.

They've got me. I'm paranoid. I treat them like flu shots. I'm good, bro. Never needed one. Miles is an anti-vaxxer, by the way. Not that I'm anti-vaxxer. I just see a disturbing link between vaccinations and the uptick in mumble

rapping. That's why I'm concerned about vaccines. Oh, youick in mumble rapping. That's why I'm concerned about vaccines. Oh, you think those mumble rappers got vaccinated? Look, I don't know. That's a whole other show. That's a whole other show that happened. By the way, as somebody who lives with a medical person, everybody really needs to get their flu shot because even though you might think,

oh, I don't get the flu, you can be a carrier of the flu and your flu can kill babies and old people. So get the flu shot. Why are you trying to make me feel bad like I'm some undercover flu carrier? My flu's probably strong, though. Wait, but is flu like low-key chlamydia where you could walk around carrying it with no symptoms? Yes, exactly.

Because you're young and strong, it might not take you over, but it can take out babies and the elderly. So that's the whole reason why the flu shot is important. You just blew my mind. Yeah. Because people around me have been like, oh, man, I'm starting to get scratchy.

I was like, I had some sinus pressure one day, but I'm Gucci. I'm just out here killing people. Damn. RIP all these babies and old people. You're the destroyer, Lacey. I'm sorry. Shame on you. Get the spotlight off me. All right. All these babies and old people. You're the destroyer. I'm on you. Get the spotlight off me. All right. So, yeah, I mean, I've heard it described as like sort of a conspiracy theory that, you know, they I know somebody one of our writers, Alison Zeidman, was saying that her phone just stopped working for a whole day. Like she couldn't access anything.

She had to, she's like relying on other people to call lifts for her. Like she was a celebrity. But, you know, so she started doing research and basically it's not a, it's not a conspiracy necessarily. The kind of practical explanation is the iOS is updated first with the new phones in mind and then secondarily with the older phones because the new phones are it's not like, you know, being done explicitly to force obsolescence and make people buy new phones, it at least accidentally has that effect. Right. So, you know, whether they're doing it on purpose or not, whether it's just sort of a unfortunate side effect and there's no possible way that they could create operating systems for all of those phones, which seems shocking to me, especially since they have billions and billions of dollars that are just hiding in offshore accounts. Or just be real with people who, like me was six and they're just like hey just just so you know this update six six six it's not for you right you know so because it will fuck up your

phone yeah i have a six i'm not even six but why would they do that they want you to right but that's what i'm saying like if if then that's what i mean if like if you really are you know benevolent tech master you should be kind of like hey look, look, your phone's not built for this iOS. So maybe skip this one or get a new phone or whatever when everyone's doing their Animoji, which I think is only for iPhone X anyway. But we know that they're not benevolent tech masters. I mean, they've set us all up to fail. My iPhone 7 doesn't have, like, I can't charge my phone and listen to music anymore.

I have to have that little piece that you have to keep with you, which they know're gonna lose it right like they just i tried i threw it away the first day i was like i'm gonna lose this why even try to you know he's just like no i'm good i'm good i'm just gonna struggle let me get used to my struggle now no but that's what's frustrating to me about the iphone is like it's created this cult phenomena it's manipulated us emotionally mentally like hell probably physically my thumb and i started i started off as an android like staunch android advocate because i was like yo this is more democratic like anyone can make apps for it like i just like it apple was like you know too much of a gatekeeper that i wasn't really into it and then when you start like working and then

you're in group text with everyone that has like. It was so chaotic trying to keep track of like how a conversation was going that I basically do to the like just sheer volume of the people that I interact with having iPhones. I was like, dude, I have to get in this cause I'm just to survive. Android shame. And that's another thing.

Yeah. That's another thing. Like if they wanted to, they could make it a seamless thing for Android users. Exactly. Why the fuck would they do that? Right. So they do pick and choose their spots to have great user experiences and then terrible

user experiences. And that green text. But we love Apple. All praise to the God of Apple. Yeah. Please rate and review us in the Apple podcast. With all that said. I don't know.

Shout out. Just think about it. Holler at me. Yeah With all that said. I don't know. Shout out. Just think about it. Holler at me. Yeah, and that's actually going to do it. So, Lacey, where can people find you? Ooh, you can see me if you're in L.A. On Monday nights, I'm here all night at UCB Franklin. You can also follow me on Instagram at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I.

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that we will soon start updating, but, uh, that's a good place to message us. We check our Facebook messages. Uh, you can follow us at daily zeitgeist on Twitter. Uh,

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research. We made up shit. We only make up one of the facts that we talk about each day exactly you have to go to the footnotes to figure out which one that is and that was me being an anti-vaxxer i'm right out right now yeah uh all right so that's gonna do it for us for today we will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast talk to you guys then We'll be right back. delicious cuisine, and even lucha libre. Join us for the new podcast, Lucha Libre Behind the Mask, a 12-episode podcast in both English and Spanish about the history and cultural richness of lucha libre.

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