The Daily Zeitgeist - Drunken Confidence, FOH Weight Watchers 8.20.19

Episode Date: August 20, 2019

In episode 457, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and Alchemy This! improvisor Craig Cackowski to discuss molecular coffee, the right not believing that a recession is possible, Obama and Biden's relationship, the weight watchers app for children, Amazon's Maisel Day, issues with books from Amazon's Bookstore, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Will Bean-Free Coffee Be the New Meat-Free Burger?2. Trump’s scam is failing him, and he’s in a panic over it3. In Economic Warning Signals, Trump Sees Signs of a Conspiracy4. Fox & Friends calls recession indicators a media conspiracy to stop Trump's re-election: "It's so obvious what they're doing! They do not want him to win again and they don't like that the economy is doing well, apparently."5. WATCH: Full Kudlow: ‘I Sure Don’t See A Recession' | Meet The Press | NBC News6. Obama and Biden’s Relationship Looks Rosy. It Wasn’t Always That Simple.7. Weight Watchers under fire for selling diets to children as young as age eight8. WW launches Kurbo, a hotly debated ‘healthy eating’ app aimed at kids9. Kurbo updates10. Weight Watchers Debuts an App That Could Screw Up Your Kid’s Relationship With Food for Life11. Maisel Day12. Cheap Mrs. Maisel Gas Made Los Angeles Traffic Even Worse13. Paging Big Brother: In Amazon’s Bookstore, Orwell Gets a Rewrite14. WATCH: Nick Hakim - Vincent Tyler (Official Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 96, Episode 2 of Your Daily Zeitgeist! A production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness and say, officially, off the top, fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News. Fuck them. It's Tuesday, August 20th, 2019.

My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Gotta Jack Magic Wo'Brien. That is courtesy of Hannah Soltis, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! What a miles, what a miles, what a miles, what a mighty good miles. It's a mighty, mighty good miles. What a miles, what a miles, what a mouse, what a mighty good mouse. Gotta say it again now. Yeah.

Woo-hoo. Look, I asked for En Vogue AKAs, and that's what I received. En Vogue AKAs. And they've been brought to you. And I see a lot of them in the pile, and I have to, woo. Sometimes you've got to choose your children and kill the others. But sometimes this one was a good one. So thank you to Aunt Triffy.

Nicole P. at Aunt Triffy for that one. That's such a dark thing about writing. Sometimes you need to kill your children. It's like, whoa. It is. Why do you even have experience? Why is that even a touch point for you writers? Oh, you never had to kill your babies? Writing is sometimes just killing your own children.

Oh, yeah. It's like, you know, I was basically in the infanticide business. Right. And then I got into comedy writers. And writing. Anyways, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious actor, director, and improviser you know from Wine Country, Community, and Drunk History. He is Mr. Craig Kikowski.

Hey. Hey, man. What an honor. What a delight to be here. Yeah, it's nice to have you. I mean, I guess one of those other Invoke songs is Free Your Miles. Yeah.

Yeah, we had a different one. You did that already? Well, no one actually did Free Your Miles, but, you know, it's very malleable. Yeah. How did they not do? What was Free Your Mind? What was the...

I think I did, like, the first verse, like, the first bar, the first verse. It was more involved. That would be the easy way to go. Sure. Miles likes a challenge when it comes to approximating early 90s R&B vocals. I just saw a couple of letters lining up, and I'm like, Miles, mind, that's it. Yeah, no, it's brilliant.

I'm going to have to holler at you for some AKAs. Yeah, well, I'm kind of basic that way. Yeah, that's perfect. That's not basic, you know what I mean? I call it art to honor my name. Craig, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about. We're going to look forward to our waterless future and how we will make coffee in those end times.

We're going to talk about how the White House is responding to the idea of a potentially looming recession. We're going to talk about how this whole Biden thing is going behind the scenes as regards his relationship to his best pal, one Barry Obama. We're going to talk about Weight Watchers. We're going to talk about just all sorts of things today. Maisel Day, what Amazon is doing just in general. But first, Craig, we like to ask our guest,

what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Well, just this morning I searched searched why do ants bite yeah why do ants bite what's their problem we have kind of an ant infestation at my house like if you leave out a scrap of food like for 10 minutes it's over yeah there's just a stream now just a dark line that's yes yeah and then frequently throughout the day like i'll feel like a little nip on my hand or my wrist or sometimes in my car meaning like i've tracked the ants in with me wow they're following me around and uh you know it's like a brief painful bite yeah uh now this is on cura which so this is crowdsourced so this is not probably a legitimate answer but ants do not bite humans so as to attack them.

Ants bite humans only for their defense. And then in all caps, ants feel threatened very quickly. Ah, of course. How dare you drive to work with an ant upon your wrist? Yeah. So little black ants bite? Yeah. I didn't even know that.

When you said that, I was like, yeah, those damn fire ants. No, I've had an ant bite. Yeah, I've felt that. Really? But they don't leave a mark. No. No, you just kind of feel that they bit you a little bit. Yeah.

It's brief, and then they immediately die. Yeah. Perfect. You smack it, and they're dead. Learn your lesson. Yeah. I'm wondering if there's an ant somewhere Googling, why do humans smash us, two smithereens? Googling, why do humans smash us to smithereens?

Or use like a, I remember back when we had them really bad at my house growing up. My parents always put like huge salt barriers across the doorways because it will dry out their exoskeletons. I would assume your house was haunted if I walked in. Yeah, and just saw these salt lines. I'm like, welcome, Jack. We've been expecting you. Experience cannot pass. Fending off demons.

Right, exactly. What is something you think is overrated? I'm going to say backing into a parking spot. Okay. Unless you're a getaway driver for the Barrow game. You don't need to back into a fucking parking spot. Some people love to do that shit, don't they? They love to do it, and it's always the douchiest cars.

Or a gigantic pickup truck. Right. I guess, what is it, just easier to get out? I don't know. I mean, I see in certain, like in Japan, you typically have to back up back into every space, no matter where you park. It's really weird.

Really? Yeah, I don't know. I'm sure there is some logic to it that I've just not actually discovered. But I'm always like, damn. Because I would always remember my uncle just finessing cars so easily. I'm like, damn, that don't know. I'm sure there is some logic to it that I've just not actually discovered. But I'm always like, damn. Because I would always remember my uncle just finessing cars so easily. I'm like, damn, that's a flex. Well, I think sometimes it's just a flex.

It's a way to show off how good you are at parking. Especially without a backup camera. Because in the pre-backup camera days, I thought that was a God-level way of entering a parking space. So, I mean, the thing that it does, it makes it like easier to get out. Right. And I guess it's probably safer to back into a parking spot than to back out because you know what's back there when you're backing into a spot. But the only times I've ever attempted is when I was like really feeling good about

my ability to drive a car backwards, aka drunk. I do not have a backup cam yet. So all my cars are pre 2010. So yeah. They say, Oh, you know what? It's,

it's just safer to actually back into a space. I don't buy that. And you're using, you're using, you're making use of the, the axle, like the pivot point of the car. So it's easier to back in.

And like when, if you're not backing out, you're not running into someone as you back out. You car. So it's easier to back in. And if you're not backing out, you're not running into someone as you back out. You're not hitting another car as you back out. You're facing where you're going if you back into the space. Right. But there could be somebody who's just walked into that space or something. Yeah, look, man.

Look, I'm still going to go head in. You know what I mean? You can't change me now. It's not that cool for the people who are behind you because it takes longer for you to get into your parking spot. Unless you're equipped with the skills. Right. That's true. That's the main thing I think is douchey is the amount of time and space you take up in order to do it. It's funny that you mentioned that.

I backed into a parking space yesterday for the first time at a grocery store. Oh really? Yeah. I don't know what it was. I think it was just one of those timing things where someone was passing me by and I didn't want to turn in to cut them off. So I kind of went past this spot and I was like, you know what? Let's live a little. Yeah. And how'd it feel? Yeah. Uh, I definitely, I, I came in a little crooked, had to come out straight and then ease it in for the full on docking position. Yeah. But it was odd. It was very much, I was like, this is the first time I've backed into a parking space

in years. All right, I'm going to change it to my underrated. No, no. And I thought these kids were like, look at this douchebag. And then I just left. I'm not surprised there's scientific support for that move online. I feel like it's a thing that people on the internet would love to talk about. It is.

Yeah. No, like they all point to it's safer. Right, right. So the internet is not disappointing on this topic for sure. Yeah. What is something you think is underrated? Oh, I'm sorry. Just one last thing triple a the official word from triple a is that drivers should reverse

into parking spaces whenever possible except for prohibited by law hmm triple all right trip i am a triple a member so i'm obligated and shout out to them for just being able to hook your friend up who doesn't have triple a right and be like, that's my car. And they're like, yeah, sure. Just jump it. You get it. You're going to trust them? Yeah. Well, no, I just, I like AAA, you know? Yeah.

They don't bust your balls. I know. But they get business when your car gets a little dinged up, right? So, I mean, who knows where they're coming from? They get a little cut. It's a conspiracy. They get a little piece of the action. Big AAA, yeah.

They just like to feel wanted. Big reverse parking. Yeah, exactly. No, I'm sure it's better. It's just not how I do it. So what is something you think is underrated? I'm going to stay with cars, and I'm going to go with automated car washes. Automated car washes.

Oh, shit, Craig. Are amazing. I was just trying to also do that this weekend. Really? Yeah. We're on the same wavelength. Wait, so describe the automated do that this weekend. Really? Yeah. We're on the same wavelength. Wait, so describe the automated kind of car wash you're talking about. Well, mine personally, in my neighborhood,

it's like $13 for a super wax car wash. Super wax. You put it in neutral. You line up to that thing. There's a little bit of theater and anticipation leading up to it. You've got to push in your mirrors, you know, lower your antenna, you know. And then you just get whacked by those fucking plastic things. And there's bubbles.

It's like a sensory overload. Yeah. And it takes me back to when I was a kid and going through car washes. So it's one that you get to sit inside the car as opposed to have to leave the car. Exactly. It's auto, yeah. And then you're out. Well, there's places in LA where you have to wash your own car.

Like what's, what's the point? For like three bucks, you get six minutes. Right. Yeah. The coin operated ones. Yeah. Like I understand like paying a guy to do it, that's fine. Right.

You know, I'm willing to do that, but I love to sit in the car and watch the show. It is a good experience. What do you listen to? Just, you know, psychedelic rock. Oh yeah you listen to uh just uh you know psychedelic rock oh yeah moody blues or you know get your sitar out and play along and that guy's a little robbie shank right right it's yeah i was looking my car was filled it still is filthy if i just hosed it off instead of getting a car wash because i don't believe in car washes anyway i was looking for one and the few that I looked at the reviews they scared me away because they're like the

buffing thing ripped off my windshield wipers and they acted like nothing happened or like I don't know what happened to my door and I was like wait the door was missing somehow no like something happened where like there was clearly scrapes along the thing where maybe the the spinning scrubber thing may have damaged the paint. But that's when also I had to do that thing of how much of this is an actual Yelp review? Right. And how much is someone projecting their own anger onto the automated car wash? Right.

Long story short. Their car was probably so dirty they couldn't see the scratches before. Right. Before they cleaned it. They were like, what'd you do to my car, man? They're like, my car is white? Yeah. Changed the you do to my car, man? They're like, my car is white? Yeah. Changed the whole paint of my car, man.

Went from cream to white. And I'm sure AAA says don't wash your car in an automated car wash. Because you never know. You can't trust it. Right. But I like it. Yeah. I just, yeah.

I only went, I remember as a kid, I very vividly, of like begging to go through a drive-through car wash. Did it maybe once. I hear it's safer to go through backwards, actually. Baller move. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? All right.

I'm going to throw this out there. And I will admit that it is slightly gross, but I don't think it's the worst thing, which is to find hair in your food at a restaurant. You think it's not the worst. It's not. You can't get sick from it. We're mammals. We're shedding hair all the time. It's true.

As somebody who's waited tables, I know that usually when people find hair in their food, it's their own hair rather than something from the kitchen. And I'm not talking about a six-inch pube in your hash browns. I'm just talking about your little hair. The way that people – curliness is not good. Yeah, curliness isn't great. Oh, that's very anti-curled hair. Yeah.

It's your straight hair privilege over here. And most pubes look like weird wire. Right, that's what I mean. I'm not talking about curly head hair i'm talking about like thick wiry curly fucked up pubes yeah because yeah that's that's a problem but the idea that hair in your food is like cause for indignation right and you know to get your entire uh check cleared or whatever right like if you're really grossed out by the kitchen we'll make it again you know but you don't need to raise a stink about it or whatever.

Usually I'll just take the hair off and keep eating. I always just keep it moving when I find hair and people are like, oh my God, are you serious? There's hair? And I'm like, dude, I don't know. I'm high and I need to eat right now. So like, I'm not about to wait another 15 minutes for this chicken pot pie to get redone. Miles hasn't eaten not high in a 14 years uh yeah since 2005 i mean the option is to like have people with uh hair nets and like beard nets and all that sure which

just like puts the idea of there being hair in your food in your head how about yeah like yeah something's gonna get through that beard right yeah. Yeah, yeah. Or just, like, make it quick, right? Like, a quick process. Like, hey, if you find hair, it's 10% off or something. Okay. Yeah. Like, she would sign right when you walk in. But then everyone's just, like, scratching their scalp over their food.

Like, I don't know, man. A bunch of dandruff in here, too. Well, that's the thing. How do you be so certain that it's not your hair? See, that's where they need overhead table cameras to show every bite. And you can see and keep the customers honest if they're not putting their own hair on the food

and are, in fact, finding it in the process of eating the meal. But what are you, CSI? You can tell the difference between your hair and somebody else's hair? Well, actually, no. It would be very easy to solve DNA. Right. So why don't we just get to the future?

We can go straight to it and that would be the next escalation for a server they're already doing it with dog poop right as well straight like what's actually your hair sir right uh how do you know i'm gonna dna test it right now and if it's true you you actually have to pay 10 more yeah for the cost of the dna test and by the way it's not dog poop left in people's food it's dog poop that people find on their lawn is what's being you know actually the thing that is fucked up when you eat hair when you eat you know when you eat hair right as one does you know when it's that third thursday of the month um is when you discover it mid-bite and you're like yeah yeah and you do the mystery thing of like how long is it

how long is it how long is it it's still's still going. And you're like, oh. You start pulling it at your lips and you feel something tickle in the back of your throat. You're like, oh. And it's wrapped around a bicuspid tube. Oh, my God. And then you and your date can have a lady in the tramp thing. Yeah, with the hair. You're both eating the long hair strand at the same time. I will admit, it's not ideal.

It's not ideal. I'm not saying put hair in my food. I'm saying you can't get sick from it. It's not the worst thing. Right. And I'm fully on board with that because I'm not saying put hair in my food. I'm saying you can't get sick from it, and it's not the worst thing. Right. And I'm fully on board with that because I'm a hair eater. Yeah. Of all the things that you can find.

For some reason, eyelash doesn't seem as bad to me, but eyelashes are gross. Whoa. Uh-oh. Because when you think about the eye crust is actually little microscopic creatures. Oh. Little microscopic dreams that your eyelashes have. Yeah. For a better life.

I'm just making this up, but I feel like it's true. No, there's little, kind of like insects, but they're microscopic organisms that are pooping stuff out. That's what that eye go gets. It's not just tears? No, it's not tears. Are you fucking serious? I'm pretty sure.

Okay. Uh, you know what to do? We're disgusting. What is mentions? Huh? Humans are disgusting. Every part of us is disgusting.

I mean, let's just, but if you want humans to serve your food, you have to be willing to put up with a little bit of, uh, yeah. Some hair. Also,

come on y'all. Like, you know, everything that's happening to your food along the way to your table. Oh, my God. Or even on its way to the kitchen or on its way to Earth. Right. How far do we need to zoom out?

Yeah. Because we can get really grossed out. Have you ever worked in the food industry and seen something fucked up be done to food? The closest was when I was serving pizzas. Uh-huh. But never anything. I mean, shit. What did you see being done to the pizza?

Nothing. Nothing untoward. Oh, got it. It was a very simplified service thing, so I was never really going to be like, oh, shit. That's what they do back there. Right. It's just like, here's a pizza. Yeah.

Yeah, I saw servers spitting people's food. Wow. Table pisses you off. Yeah. You know? Huh. This was in the 90s, though. I haven't waited tables in a long time. Well, yeah, I think, but now they've up there. We were all spitting Yeah. This was in the 90s, though. I haven't waited tables in a long time.

Well, yeah, I think, but now they've up there. We were all spitting each other's food in the 90s, man. It was a crazy time. Grunge, man. It's grunge. Now they just blow vape smoke into your face. Right. Yeah.

All right. Let's talk about our first story of the day. Coffee may be the new frontier in the fight against climate change. Yeah, it's, as the UN has pointed out, climate change, I guess, is real. So we may need to alter some past episodes when we were questioning that. But it turns out very serious. But, you know, the biggest concern, too, is obviously the drains on land and water resources to grow things. And a lot of this has created a lot of talk about coffee because apparently it takes over 30 gallons of water to grow and process the beans it takes for the one cup of coffee a consumer would drink.

And that's the same thing with the cattle industry too. Livestock obviously takes a tremendous amount of water, And those are things that people are sort of aware of. And so this new report seems to indicate that maybe we're moving towards a beanless coffee. So the same group, Horizon Ventures, who was an early investor in Impossible Foods, who do like the impossible fake meat, put $2.6 million into this company called Atomo, which is a Seattle-based company that they make, quote unquote, molecular coffee. And this one, this isn't sort of, it's different than like the animal fake, like lab meat in that sense. What they're doing is that they will make a cup of coffee using just sort of all the chemical building blocks. So that's quinic acid, dimethyl disulfide, niacin, 2-ethylphenol, and a handful of other elements. I was going to ask how they got the 2-ethylphenol in there.

Yeah, yeah, they have to, because that's what it gives you, that sort of a bite to it. But yeah, essentially just saying like, okay, we know what's in coffee, let's just reverse engineer it so it's no longer being such a water drain. They're not here to say like, this is the new coffee. It's, I think, just in the same way of like, is there another way to do this? Is there another way to arrive at this? This is less resource intensive. Breaking things down to their component parts and reverse engineering never works, right? Right. Yeah. I mean, well, I think, you know, it sounds like a good idea, but it's still so early and like, there's really no good information on this company to suggest that like they figured it out. It's just that they're in the process of figuring it out right i feel like food is the one thing that we've seen

like over sciencing it up has not been beneficial up to this point like the foods that are healthy are the ones that go way way back and like people who are eating in a tradition that goes back like many years are usually the healthier people, like Mediterranean diets and, you know, some like Japanese diet. Thank you. And and the ones that are like kind of put together from component parts and, you know, in a lab somewhere by a corporation are generally the ones that are making the world fat. I don't think they're trying to be like, this is the answer to your obesity is this molecular copy. Right. You know, it's just more like. But I mean, but I think if you, you know, we eat Impossible Burgers.

Right. And we thank the heavens that there's this actually very good meat substitute for a hamburger. So I feel like I think it's when you get into like the blowing out the scale of like produce and like the size of vegetables that it gets odd. Speaking of blowing out, are they taking into account the number of flushes, the toilet flushes that it takes to

deal with? Sorry. It is a diuretic. Jay Leno is writing for me now. You guys seen this? You heard about this? I don't drink coffee coffee so i'm not part of the problem yeah so great and i drink canned kirkland signature cold brew that can't be coffee right so barely coffee i'm gonna say that i'm also not part of the i feel like the number of gallons of water that are being used on each like 37 gallons water to grow one coffee cup worth of beans or like,

you know, I feel like it's even more than that for a hamburger. 1,300 gallons for a 12-ounce steak. Jesus. And I feel like that's the new statistic, like the number of square miles of rainforests that are being lost every second, like that just, it like blows my mind. It's like, well, that's so depressing that I don't know like what I can possibly do about that. Like that's just an insane amount of water.

Yeah. That's why I think these are the sort of important things to factor in with like the UN saying like, you know, I think going to meatless diets will help because if you sort of bring that demand down for traditional animal meat, that will help because if you sort of bring that demand down for uh traditional animal meat right that will help things but there are also people on the other side too being like well how can we raise livestock in a way that is also less of a drain versus like fuck it man let's just blow this shit out like output wise right and whatever the resource costs whatever it is but you know i'm glad people are thinking about it yeah and then i, and then I just want to keep drinking my canned Kirkland.

If I can do that all the time. Canned Kirkland water? Yeah, canned Kirkland Cobra. Oh, canned Kirkland Cobra, that's right. Canned Kirkland water. That's the future of water. Yeah, I mean, there's all these things. They are developing a shower that requires no water that you just get in there

and it just fucking shakes you or something i don't know that is so stupid that is how i pictured it in my mind get the fuck off me bacteria that's definitely not the case compressed air yeah blow the stink off you yeah like clean you like you're a keyboard well there are those ones that like there was like the super fine misting shower heads that like hit you with like a very small amount of water, but it was enough to like get your wash on. That's probably what it is, yeah. I like to shake the shit out of your waterless shower. You dirty motherfucker.

Like 20 seconds, yeah. Yeah. Anyways, we're going into our waterless future with our eyes wide open, guys. Yeah. Right. All right. We're going to take a quick break. We'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist

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I don't know the difference. I thought they were the same company until we had that conversation. Let's talk about how the White House is reacting with some warning signs of a recession going off. You know, we've talked before about how this administration has been having a difficult time with the best economic run in a long time in U.S. history going on. So, like, how are they going to react if things start getting a little shaky? And we're starting to see a couple examples of that. Yeah. I mean, everyone has pointed to the yield curve inversion, which, and then I'll post a link in the footnotes to an excellent article in new york times for once that was just sort of using it as a as a like putting in the context of sports betting like you know you could take a bet like imagine these bonds right is a bet on the economy whether it's in the present or the future right and so the outlook right now is somewhat okay for the economy but down the road

a lot of the the knowledge around it is like, I don't know about that. And they put it like betting on like, for example, the Cardinals. Right now, don't look good, but they've got a new quarterback and new coach and the Arizona Cardinals. That looks like the build could have a little more confidence for people taking that bet because like, okay, right now might not be it, but down the road, I can see things improving. Or imagine like if you're betting on the Patriots in the wake of Tom Brady and Belichick saying, we're done after this season. This season, you'd be like, okay, that's good.

Long term, not so much. And that's sort of what it is now with the U.S. economy. Like down the road, everyone's starting to bet like, ooh, I don't know about the future. And again, doesn't mean that that's where it's headed, but it's been one of the more consistent indicators of a recession coming. But I mean, that's where it's headed, but it's been one of the more consistent indicators of, you know, a recession coming. But I mean, that's what Trump's been saying all along. He's the Bill Belichick of this shit. And as soon as you get rid of him, you're fucked.

You're done. Yeah. He's like, you better give me your 401ks or they're gone. Right. So, yeah, I mean, you know, again, we have those sort of things happening. And at the same time, Trump has also been, you know, parading around these fucking empty promises that got him into office. Like he was going to rework all these bunk trade deals with these companies. And that's,

what's going to get the workers back on top because we've got to have America first. And these, these, you know, they're taking advantage of this. It's, it's unbelievable.

And at the same time saying, Oh, well let's cut taxes too. And that'll make the middle class even more solid and maybe revive the middle class. But now we're seeing all that is just bullshit because the tax cuts have only helped the wealthiest and the whole like trickle down thing is not happening. Like, you know, everyone said it would obviously, cause that happens every fucking time. Trickle down has never worked.

Yeah. Trickle down economics is the same, you know, sentiment as pre-cum doesn't cause pregnancies. You can say it with all the confidence you want, but my man, try it out. You might not like the seat. And people have been saying it for years. Yeah, exactly. And again, with the trade wars, look at what's happening. All of these tariffs are being passed on to the consumer. So just ending up in a lot of bad indicators of how the economy

is doing. And that's led Trump to basically just saying like, I hate math. He's basically saying like, these are all conspiracies. He's ignoring all of the people who are advising him. Well, some people are agreeing with him, but trying to find a scapegoat because everything he's doing is actually having a negative or could potentially have a very negative impact on the economy long term. He hates to be confronted with facts. 100%. I'm just reading Fear again. I didn't read it the first time, but we talked about it like a year ago. But that's the book from Woodward, Bob Woodward, about the first year of the Trump presidency. And there's a scene in there where he's sitting down with his economic advisor i think we talked about at the time but it bears repeating that he is he basically is like well why don't we just like print more money like we

should just print more money that that way we'll be richer and we'll yeah that so that's his understanding of how things work when i was a kid and played monopoly iopoly, I would Xerox the money I had. Right. And I would come back with more. And they'd be like, where'd you get it? Yeah. Printed it. Why can't we do that? Yeah.

I mean, again, someone with no actual functional knowledge of economics, this is what you get. Right. And this is where we're getting into conspiracy town, because this is what he's been saying behind the scenes, Trump. Mr. Trump has been agitated. This is from the New York Times. Mr. Trump has been agitated in discussions of the economy and by the news media's reporting of warnings of a possible recession he has said forces that do not want him to win have been overstating the

damage his trade war has caused according to people who have spoken with him and several aides agree with him that the news media is overplaying the fears um adding that this is justifying his feelings so when you look around everyone is kind of parading around this same messaging, like, no, no, everything's chill. It's actually a conspiracy against Trump because they don't want him reelected. First up is Fox News really getting on there. It's all a conspiracy against Trump.

Right. I'm watching this and I'm like, it's so obvious what they're doing. They do not want him to win again. And they don't like that the economy is doing well apparently the CEO Bank of America put it the best Brian Moynihan said the only the only fear of recession we have is fear of recession in other words the only thing that can happen in this country right now that can derail this economic juggernaut is if everyone believes it's

going to be derailed and I hate to say it but to a degree the media almost did that in December and I think some people do it deliberately. Listen, there's no economic data out there that suggests we're on the cusp of a recession. You got that. Okay. Very much so is. Was he doing finger quotes on data? I don't have the image. So this is sort of the phase they're in.

The idea that it's like the only thing that will derail the economy is the fear of a recession. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself. Is recession itself. Yeah. That's amazing. What a great line that guy came up with on his own. Yeah. You get on a bus and you're like, I think the driver's drunk.

It's like, you're a hater. Get off. You're a hater and you're just against him. Right. The only thing you have to fear about the driver being drunk is fear of the driver being drunk. And possibly driving the bus off a cliff. Right. And you're strapped the fuck in.

Meanwhile, recession fear is highest in eight years, according to a Bank of America survey. Right. Yeah. And then, oh boy, Larry Kudlow, who is one of the White House economic advisors, he – so there's already rumors. A pencil neck, if you ask me, right? There's already rumors that he might leave the White House, but this performance he gave on the Sunday shows, to me, is one of the greatest displays of calm and stoicism in the face of economic uncertainty. I guess first up, he was asked about just by Chuck Todd. They're like, hey, man, there's a lot of fear of a recession.

Can I get an answer from you? The private sector seems to be concerned about particularly the trade war with China, that there are some rough waters ahead, maybe a recession, that those odds have risen. What do you see? Well, I'll tell you what, I sure don't see a recession. It's a blockbuster. Retail sales, consumer numbers towards the back end of last week, really blockbuster numbers. And in fact fact despite a lot of worries with the volatile stock market with the most economists on Wall Street okay let's just help him out on that one you know they say the Bonneville stock market

was on you know he literally sounds like your impression of a drunk guy hey I don't see recession from here here. What the fuck? Are you... Larry! Just get back in the car, sir. It got fucking worse. He went on Fox, and then...

Look, if you were in any doubt of what his state is, listen to this next clip, and you tell me if this is somebody who's cool, calm, and collected and has nothing to worry about. Favorites.

China. China is paying for these tariffs by a ratio of about four to one. Larry. That's what we expected to happen. I've enjoyed having you. I have one last question. If you get asked to go do a site survey about purchasing Greenland, can I go with you?

Well, maybe I'll run the central bank. Look, it's an interesting story. It's developing. We're looking at it. We don't know. Years ago, Harry Truman wanted to buy Greenland. Denmark owns Greenland. Denmark is an ally.

Greenland is a strategic place up there. And they got a lot of valuable minerals. I don't want to predict an outcome. I'm just saying the president, who knows a thing or two about buying real estate, wants to take a look. And all I'm saying is that if you get asked to go and do a site survey, I'd love to accompany you on the trip and do an interview out there. Larry Kudlow, thank you for joining us. Happy Sunday. I could make that happen.

I could make that happen. I can make that happen. I just want to kiss you. I swear, because I don't care if they're, they don't care about the team struggling. I don't care about the economy struggling. I just want to kiss you. I mean, wow. I work on the show Drunk History,

and every storyteller we've ever had has been more lucid and articulate than that man. Yeah, it was very Drunk very drunk history i mean there's something that i don't know why that was so chilling to me but it's just funny when the guy who's supposed to go out there and do all the lies has to be like a screen land and denmark they're all allies we We can get it later. Truman. Truman show. It's either like he got drunk just to get up the nerve to lie, or he feels like if he

slurs every word, he won't really be caught in a lie. Right. It's like he worked for Rudy Giuliani, so it's insane. Yeah, I mean, but Rudy never sounded on a word-to-word basis drunk. He would in and out. He seemed, yeah, he would go in and out, and just his overall message seemed like, oh, you're probably fucked up.

And also the fact that people would see him at bars in between Sunday show appearances getting drunk. Be like, aren't you about to go on the air? You'd betcha. Screenland. That's true, though. Screenland. Screenland.

Yeah, but we do have an expert on listening to people try to keep their shit together while drunk. And you're saying, Craig, that this dude is not a... He's the worst I've ever heard. Derek's like... Yeah. Derek Waters is like, I don't know about this one, dude. Right.

I don't know if we can bear this one. Yeah, Derek would reject. Yeah. Everything. don't know about this one dude right i don't know if we can bear this one yeah derrick would reject everything trump you know same real estate and we'll wait and see right yeah yeah but yeah it's it's either that or like he's about to leave and he's like i fucking can't stand this anymore like i'm just gonna be the bad employee who's showing up drunk to practice or practice if you're an employer drunk to work yeah either way it sounds like larry's having a fine time and i wonder if other people who he deals with like in the world of economics like dude you can't be fucking serious about this right like you know you can't be serious i don't understand how tariffs

work but he definitely doesn't understand how tariffs work. And he really should. Yeah, we tell you in China, though. There, everyone's paying for it. Right. Yikes. So, yeah, again, everything is very fine. It also sounded like he may have invested in Blockbuster stock. Yeah, right? And it's just now realizing what happened.

He's like, I didn't really check on that. I put around $300,000 or $400,000 in in 2001. They're going to put DVDs in the mail and everything's going to take off from there. I'm all in on HD DVD. Right. There it is. I don't care where the porn industry is going. Let's talk about Joe Biden's campaign real quick.

Want to do a check-in. There's more and more news out there that Elizabeth Warren has caught up to him. Have you noticed people saying Liz Warren more recently? Is that the new thing? I almost wanted to say that because I've heard it on the news and in podcasts. Well, I'm not that familiar with her. Yeah, I'm not either. But suddenly people are getting real familiar. When's it going to start being Lizzy and Beth?

Well, Lizzy Warren. See, what you have to understand about her. It sounds like a subtle way to undermine her, right? Maybe undermine, maybe humanize. Or there are people who actually know her. Right. And they're just doing that thing where it's like, yeah, you know, the other day I was with Steven.

Bobby De Niro. Spielberg. Right. Stevie boy. And I'm sorry, you guys call him Steven. But yeah, it could be. Yeah. I mean, look, it's tightening up the race a little bit.

Yeah, it's tightening up. And there's a New York Times story talking about sort of what's going on behind the scenes between Obama and Biden. Because, I mean, I think people just from the outside are like, an Obama endorsement would really help right about now. Yeah. outsider like an obama endorsement would really help right about now yes his claim to be the guy who you know would win this thing is falling apart there's less and less there and apparently they've had a a meeting they've had a few discussions apparently yeah the first time

was in 2016 when he was like you don't don't like hillary needs to run not you and he was like, you don't, don't like Hillary needs to run, not you. And he's like, that's the person who he thought would continue his legacy. And, you know, and in 2020 is the same thing, but this sort of little snippet is rinsing. The two men spoke at least a half dozen times before Mr. Biden decided to run. And Mr. Obama took pains to cast his doubts about the campaign in personal terms. Quote, you don't have to do this, Joe. You really don't. Mr. Obama told Mr. Biden earlier this year. Mr. Biden, who thinks he could have defeated Donald Trump four years ago, responded by telling Mr. Obama he could never forgive himself if he turned down a second shot at Trump.

He's just a punch drunk fighter. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it, Barry. You can't even. You don't even know where you are, Joe. Just your uncle, like, getting drunk at, you know, the far end of the bar, who's, like, waiting for that guy he had a grudge with 20 years ago to show up again.

He's like, wow, wow, wow. Oh, no. Joe. Yeah, and then even then, like, once he did decide to run, Obama, like like summoned his advisors to his own office to talk to them. It said in March, Mr. Obama took the unusual step of summoning Mr. Biden's top campaign advisors, including former White House comms director Anita Dunn and Biden's longtime spokeswoman Kate Bedingfield to his D.C. office for a briefing on their digital and communication strategy. When they were done, Mr. Obama offered a pointed reminder. communication strategy when they were done mr obama offered a pointed reminder win or lose they needed to make sure mr biden did not quote embarrass himself or damage his legacy and quote during the campaign whoa a ringing endorsement yeah that's a fucking friend though he's like i

tried talking to him here's the deal guys if he's gonna do it don't let him piss everything away oh that's that's rough man yeah yeah and it totally undermines the idea that biden is trying to communicate that like he's like he had obama's like back and they were like you know just yeah there's no gibson danning lovering this shit the whole time yeah you know there were more instances in that article we're talking about like when he would he oddly took sides with mitch mcconnell over obama like in 2013 and just like there was this thing that biden always had this ambition for higher office that like would creep into their interactions at times right and i think now that he's free of the vice president label he can you

know put out his own album we'll see how that goes but a lot of this stuff is like people are acting like wow he's not as sharp as he was in 2016 or you know even 2012 2008 but like he these are the things that undid his campaigns the last time he ran for president. Right. Right? Is like he's gaff-ful. Yeah. He's gaffable. And he- I think he lied about being involved in like the civil rights movement. There's weird things that have happened.

Yeah. He plagiarized people. And so it's just like, seems like he has higher expectations for himself than are reasonable. Yeah. Look, I think he wants it for the wrong reasons. Right. But I think just having him around for the debates and everything kind of bolsters everybody else's credibility.

Right. They all look better. They all get to beat up on the former vice president. They're like, oh, is this your king? Right. Okay. He's an easy punching bag, and they can score points easily at every debate.

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Yeah, double dubs. But they last week launched a new app called Curbo. K-U-R-B-O, like turbo with a K. Oh, dude. I don't even know why that's so funny to me. That's the worst fucking name. Kerbo. That's like your nickname for a dude named Kirby. Yeah. Like, yo, Kerbo. What's up, Kerbo? Yeah. Kerbo, the puckmeister. It is a weight loss app for children as young as eight years old. I'm sorry, to be used by children? Yes, to be used by children, for children.

Just everything about this is depressing. So it starts out like at the very inception as kind of having the gloss of science because it was a app that was developed by Stanford University's pediatric obesity program, which sounds scientific and professional. And there is a obesity problem in America and presumably in America's children. But from there, it just gets really weird with like some of it involves like they ask why you're doing this and like your goals can be to lose weight to please my parents and the website features before and after photos of once chubby kids who are now thin and that's in quotes uh the page also includes the fine print results are not typical and yeah it just all kind of points the idea that thinness is the ideal standard yeah it's designed to promote not like health but like because you weigh in by like tracking your measurement and like setting goals there are things where it's

like it groups foods into red groups yellow groups and and is like, try to eat more green, less red. And that could be a useful thing to promote kids eating healthily. Right. But it just has all these other places where it sort of gamifies weight loss. Right. And visualizing, it's like, you're this, but you want to be this, which is why you need Curbo. Right. And as if kids aren't already getting bombarded even more with unrealistic ideas of how your life or body should look.

It's like, yeah, hi, hi, hi. Do you want to mainline some body dysmorphic disorder into your fucking veins at eight years old? Yeah, so the National Eating Disorder Association said that this poses some grave risks because it is like giving children advice with no in-person monitoring by medical professionals. So to kind of illustrate how this could go wrong, a dietician went in and basically made a profile that was somebody with an eating disorder uh like a fake kid yeah so created a fake profile for a 14 year old with a weight that would be low for her height her diet consisted only of mustard celery and water and she recorded hours of treadmill exercise the app then told her how well she was doing.

Oh, wow. Which, yeah. So even when you put like, what'd you eat today? Mustard, celery, and water. They're like, great. Good job. Keep going. Yeah.

You're still fucked up looking. Yeah. And you're clearly in Los Angeles. Right. Right. Yeah. You're only eating mustard and celery. Yeah.

Is that a real diet? I think it's- The mustard and celery diet? I think it's one of those things that probably like eating disorder, like because it's all water and just a little bit of just a way to trick yourself into like your body into thinking you're feeding it sustenance and does while not feeding it. So is weight,

but Weight Watchers take is sort of like, Hey kids, you want to get your own health into your, like bring a control back into your hands with this app? Right. And I'm sure there are instances in which it is useful, but it is, like, they're just putting it out there. It's not a thing where you're getting medical attention on a person-to-person basis to judge if this is going to be useful in that instance. Right.

judge if this is going to be useful in that instance. Like if you're being monitored, if you're using it in association with like a doctor kind of like working with you and your family, maybe that would work. But because it's being like, you know, treated like an app that they're trying to like make a profit off of, it just is going to go wrong no matter what. Right. So like a more cynical thing is like that this is the last dying gasp of Weight Watchers to try and insert themselves and be like, this is how you'll get control of your weight versus the internet where you can find every fucking diet under the sun that people are into now. Right. And you don't have to pay a membership for that information.

Yeah. you don't have to pay like a membership for that information. Yeah. And just last year, Weight Watchers sparked a similar controversy when they announced a new program to provide free membership for teens between 13 and 17, which is using the first one's free drug dealer thing that, you know, drug dealers supposedly use against kids in high school. Right. I just like that they're saying it's, we're all about healthy habits, in high school. Right. I just like that they're saying, it's what we're all about, healthy habits, not a diet.

Right. The idea of before and after photos for kids is really depressing, too. It's fucking disturbing. Because you're a kid, you're growing. There's nothing but after photos. Yeah, like this one, there's two of like this one kid. It looks like the difference between when you're eight and ten.

Right. It's like, yeah, you might look a little bit different when you start entering puberty. Right. Yeah. But this is him, hey. Pretty fucked up bit different when you start entering puberty. Right. Yeah. But this is him. Hey, pretty fucked up. Happiness after three months of Curbo.

Yeah. And clearly we've run out of app names. There are no longer any good app names left. Curbo. Yeah, the kids are going to love that. Yeah. Only pharmaceutical names are worse. Sounds like a video game in a, like, 80s movie.

Right. Where they're, like, just figuring out what video games are. Bitch, you can't beat my high score on Curbo. Right. Check this out. Oh,

that's the movie where that kid gets zapped into Curbo, right? Right. He needs to live in that world. He needs to fight his way out of Curbia.

Let's talk about Maisel Day. Yeah, we missed it. Yeah, we did. When we were in Orlando. I know. So bummed,

I remember seeing it and being like, what the fuck is this? The city was a light. It was wonderful. We all celebrated. Yeah. For people who don't know,

LA was turned into a bit of a zoo last Thursday on the 15th because Amazon was celebrating their 20 Emmy nominations. Shout out to

Noah Gardensports. Yeah, yeah. He was a frequent guest and writer on that show. And they basically were like, hey, dude, we're killing it with the Emmy nominations. Let's make a bunch of stores and services. Let's take it back to 1959 and give you prices from 1959 at these businesses. And the biggest one was this gas station in Santa Monica, which basically was offering 30 cent a gallon gas.

And it fucking caused so much traffic. The cops are like, they didn't understand what's going on because there's this bottleneck by the 10. Yeah, man, take the 10 down to Santa Monica. Party sound like a fucking anyway. The cops had to get there and just basically shut the fucking thing down. They're like, no, this is you're you're fucking up the entire flow of traffic, which is kind of like this sad thing where on one hand,

it's like you see just how entrenched this city is in the showbiz machine that they can be like, hi, the city will be an ad today. Right. And then also like the terrible disparity between haves and have-nots in this city where you have people being like, ha-ha, 30 cent a gallon gas, and other people are like, what? 30-cent-a-gallon gas? I will go there fucking right now.

Yeah, and it was, I mean, you know, they had things like a scoop of ice cream for 80 cents from Haagen-Dazs or a fucking cupcake for a quarter. But, yeah, it seemed like this gas station thing was the biggest disturbance and also, like, just the power that fucking Amazon has to wield. They're like, yeah, we'll eat all the losses on this promo and subsidize it. This is a bit of a humblebrag, but I am an Emmy voter. And Amazon is fucking relentless with the DVDs and they're a streaming service. During the whole nomination process,

it was Amazon, Hulu, and Netflix sent out more DVDs than anyone. I was throwing out 50 DVDs a day for something that I'm already streaming for free. It's funny. What they should do is just give you, if they're going to be sort of slick about it, just give you a fucking temporary pass to stream it. Yeah, send out a code. But then some networks do that. Yeah.

But like in the HFPA, like for the Golden Globes, those members are a little bit elderly. Right. So DVDs help because they're like, the code. It's like, here's a fucking DVD. You remember how to use that, right? Right. But yeah, it does seem odd for something like as ubiquitous

as like Amazon or Netflix. Yeah. I know it helps Larry Kudlow's Blockbuster stock, but. Yeah. I feel like some cool packaging can help sometimes. I don't know. Or like, I like getting a cool package in the mail personally. The packaging is very impressive.

Right. You sound like a child from the 60s. Right. I like getting a cool package. From the postman. I just, I wait by my front door for the postman I just I wait by my front door For the postman To arrive every day

Do you remember that era though Of like Like commerce When like you Ordered something out of a magazine Or over the phone And you were like The next week

You're like Fucking could not wait To get home Just for your parents You're like It's not gonna fucking come The next day you idiot Right

I'm like Today Damn it No It's just night now Yeah Yeah the next day, you idiot. I'm like, today? Damn it. No. It's just night now. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, I'm voting for Fleabag.

I don't need a 25 cent cup. There you go. There you go. Aren't they also Amazon? Yeah. Wait a minute. Fuck. Yeah.

Amazon owns everything. Yep. I mean, I can just hear the meeting where this is pitched. They'll be like, the brands will be lining up for this is pitched. They'll be like, the brands are, we'll be lining up for this, man. They'll be fucking. For Maisel Day? Maisel Day.

It's going to be like, watch, this is going to be an annual thing. We just got to start now. I know we're going to probably lose about $2 million on this. Right. But we got to.

Yeah. I mean, the things that they were offering, guess what? I don't know how much a manicure costs, but $2 sounds pretty good. I'd get one for two bucks. Now, if they could get this to be a national holiday, like that all- 59 day?

Yeah, just 59 day or like where you get, everybody gets to pay for things at prices that they were like 50 years ago, that would be pretty, I would respect Amazon. They're like, we'll cover the difference. I think if you are a billionaire owner of a company, that would be pretty, I would respect Amazon. They're like, we'll cover the difference. I think if you are a billionaire owner of a company, you should be legally obligated to have 1959 prices for like one week out of the year. Right. And eat all that fucking loss. Eat fucking every bit of it.

And that's going to help the yield curve inversion. Yeah, exactly. Oh, man. Or, you know, we could just pay people fucking living wages. I don't know. But I like these promos. These sound kind of fun too. Right. Well, exactly. Oh, man. Or, you know, we could just pay people fucking living wages. I don't know. But I like these promos. These sound kind of fun, too. Right.

Well, that's the thing. It has to be, like, cute and fun for it to work in our modern economy. I feel like that's, like, the... That's the dark side, though, of this promo, right? It's sort of when you see prices like this, people go, oh, wow, I could do this shit. Right. You know, like, if you don't have all this disposable income income, like that's where you kind of see the sort of darker elements of how wages are stagnating.

And people are like, yeah, actually, this feels right. This is like a world I could live in versus one where I'm like, I don't know, should I eat at this place because a sandwich is fucking 28 bucks? Yeah. If it's like a cute viral stunt, that's we're in uh but yeah i mean people will line up around the block for like people love promos right yeah and for gas that's like a dollar cheaper than like the average gas price like that will cause a riot and they offered

it for uh i think normal per gallon costs were 374 at74 at the time, $3.84, and they were offering it for $0.30. So, yeah. Yeah, $0.30. They should have known. You could have got a movie ticket for $0.51. Yeah. See, movie pass, they could have made their money if we had 1959 prices.

That's right. So another thing that's going on with Amazon that kind of ties into this is kind of a good example of the adorably convenient way that Amazon is ruining the world. So you can get like these bargain basement prices on any book like that's kind of been their thing from day one. But usually they are providing those really amazing prices by, you know, pulling books from other countries that might not have the same copyright laws as us. And so somebody was recently pointing out that when you order the book 1984 by George Orwell online on Amazon, you will frequently get books that have insane problems with... One reader discovered his new copy of 1984 had passages that were worded different. For instance, the word faces was replaced with feces in one case.

That might change the meaning of the sentence. Yeah. There was other Orwell books that skipped just a chunk of pages, and that seemed to actually be a routine experience one edition of animal farm a fairy story referred to itself on the back cover as animals farm a fair story uh which changes the meaning again uh and the preface referred to another great orwell work uh homage to catalonia uh as home page to Catalonia as homepage to Catalonia. So these are just like fake knockoff books

or something? Right. Are they terribly translated? Yeah. So 1984 is still within its copyright protection in the US and the UK, but like in India,

they don't have the same copyright laws. So there's publishers over there who are just going to make a quick buck by printing a bunch of cheap versions of it, and they might not get all the words correct. Wow. They're not intentional misspellings. They're not intentional. It's like they've been put into Google Translate and back.

Right. And they're like, great, just print it right or they have a bunch of people like hey you type really fast yeah type this whole book up for me yeah okay and then faces becomes feces yeah so it's funny when i mean first of all it's just a funny headline to say that 1984 passages are being rewritten by amazon but But that's not like the heavily controlled version of thought control that the book imagines. It's this sort of wild-eyed, all-consuming chaos of the internet and economic opportunism and just all of that stuff. But it's still fucked up because you get feces instead of faces. And that changes the

message it's like thought control making making things very dumb or slightly dumber well look i for one bow to our corporate overlords and welcome all these counterfeit books um i just like that their statement is so fucking weird. Yeah, their statement is, there is no single source of truth for the copyright status of every book in every country, and so it relies on the authors and publishers to police its site. Wow. That's very Orwellian.

Yeah, very Orwellian. Which is odd. Bring it back home. That's on y'all. I mean, there is no single source of truth. What? Really? Okay, great.

Check out our typo-laden e-books that you can buy for pennies on the top. They're just putting it out there, just like they put those amazing gas prices out there. If people want to riot over it and fight each other, that's their problem. Hey, hey, don't worry about our conditions in our warehouses. Check out this 30-cent gas and cheap-ass typo book. Yeah. I read e-books all the time for free. I discovered this incredible source called the library.

The library, yeah. What? It's amazing, man. E-books for free is the best thing, yeah. They give you books for free. Who'd have thought? And they're spelled correctly. Yeah.

Well, Craig, it has been a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Thanks so much, guys. Where can people find you, follow you, see you, experience you? To experience me, come to Atwater Village. I'm hanging out. Craig Kikowski Experience, Atwater Village. That's right. In my car wash.

Right. We'll turn on some Ravi Shankar and just pull through. Vibe out, man. But but on Twitter you can find me at at Kikowski Instagram is C Kikowski it's just spelled like it sounds C-A-C-K-O-W-S-K-I Craigslist PCast on Twitter

for my podcast Craigslist which I make my wife Carla watch my 100 favorite movies we're about to get into the top 10 now do you reveal what the top 10 is ahead of time? Do people know? We usually do it one at a time. So we just put out a Raiders of the Lost Ark episode today,

and The Graduate is next. So we're up to number 11. And do people know what your number one movie is yet? They do not. Do you know? I do. Okay. He's like, I got to figure out one.

What do you think is the best movie? Hey, what do you guys think? Hey, what's a good movie? The Mask, right? Dunstan Checks In is pretty good. Yeah, Baby's Day Out. Orange Tux Improv for improv shows on Twitter. And then The Alchemy of This Podcast is a totally improvised podcast on this very network.

Yes, yes. A stint hosted by Kevin Pollack, who's usually there. Yeah. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? You know, it's kind of evergreen, but God is always somebody great to follow on Twitter. And since we were talking about climate change, God put this out yesterday. The five stages of climate change. Number one, denial.

Number two, guilt. Number three, depression. Number four, acceptance. Number five, drowning. There it is. So that guy knows. Yeah two, guilt. Number three, depression. Number four, acceptance. Number five, drowning. There it is. So, that guy knows. Yeah, I know. He might. Miles, where can people find you? Twitter and Instagram

at milesofgray. A tweet that I like is from, let's see, I have a couple. The first is from Ellery Smith, a past guest, who said, God put me on this earth to slowly and systematically ruin the lives of 32 year old men. And Rachel Winitsky, another past guest caught my eye as someone who has been in and out

of TSA recently. Uh, it says three types of travel personalities. One, people who carefully wrap up their computer chargers. Two, people who just shove the charger into a bag unwrapped. Three, people who swallow the charger so they can shit it out when they get to wherever they're going. I'm number three. Yes. Noah Garfunkel tweeted, Crocs! Socks! Button-down chronograph watch!

Oh. No. I enjoyed that uh somebody retweeted a local news story of the story headline is service dogs attend theater performance as part of training and the dogs are all sitting in theater seats and julia mccullough tweeted the movie title good boys was very misleading to some and then ava at nationally, you should be able to twist the bottom of the Pringles can to bring the chips to the top like a chapstick. And that is the best idea I've heard all day.

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