The Daily Zeitgeist - Dry Curling @ Lucky Zeit 2/23: BAFTAs N-Bomb, Supreme Court, Tariffs, Kash Patel @ The Olympics

Episode Date: February 23, 2026

In this edition of Dry Curling @ Lucky Zeit, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, a couple of odd moments at the BAFTAs, the Supreme Court declaring Trump's tariffs illegal, Kash Patel's trip to Italy and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oh, wait. Hold on. That's crazy. You had a, oh, my invite got lost her? It was, it was only, only the boys in his class. Dude, I'm one of the boys, dude. What'd you guys do? You guys have a performer? You guys do activities? Bowling. Dude, you know I love bowling, bro. And I can only beat four-year-old children. I needed this for my confidence. Fuck. You have the bumpers up? Yeah, but well, they've got a new thing, man. Lucky Strike where it's like you can go bumper up. bumper down depending on...

Oh yeah, depending on your game. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, that's... That's been... That's been technology. Been there. Yeah, yeah.

I think I'm learning about really old technology a lot this weekend. That's my underrated. I learned about like, because before it was like, it's all bumpers or no bumpers. Yeah, you have to like drag the bumpers out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And now, like, yeah, the guy came with the hook to be like, all right, losers. What are you too drunk to bowl? Right.

But yeah, I remember, I only found out like maybe two, three years of. ago when I went to like one of those newfangled bowling alleys where like depending on your person like each individual could have a bum person I'm like oh this is now this is called inclusive this is called the person but it's also fucked up

because then they're got beat by a nine year old man you got beat by nine year old I mean I didn't I didn't actually bowl but you could I like a fucking 280 I like a go you got beat and I mean I wasn't really trying I wasn't really trying

I was throwing a couple balls down the thing just to like show off a little bit. Dude, I was going between the legs and stuff. I didn't know it was cider house rules. They didn't say that. If I knew it was cider house rules, then I would have fucking stepped up. Nobody was bowling a 280. There were balls being left on the lane, you know, when like. Oh.

Yeah, they were like. So when you're playing billions? Yeah, they're playing billions out here. I chose very early on to give up. I was just like, I just... Actually, no, that's probably more like curling. Yeah, it was. That is a good way to bowl.

Do your one knee up, one leg, drag back. And glide down the entire lane until right to get to the pins and then fucking strike up with your hands. Fuck yeah. I think you should be able to do that. All right, rack up another one, dude. I'm fucking killing it.

Actually, that, you just gave me an idea. if you if you bold with roller skates on yeah that could be fucked up you go and we just never let go the ball yeah and just it just keeps dry curling could be a fucking thing next summer I mean dry figure skating and stuff you see the them like working out getting ready for their figure skating yeah oh that sounds kind of fun I'm not gonna lie they're just doing the moves on a gym floor we just call that roller skating China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside. This is Special Agent Regal, Special Agent Bradley Hall.

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That over there is Mr. Miles Gray. Hey. This is the episode where we catch up on Monday morning, our time, Monday afternoon by the time you hear it tell you some of the things that were trending over the weekend. Some of the things that are going on with us. But before we get to that, we do like to, yeah, let you get to know us. What's going on with us? What's going on with us? Do a little check in.

I'm about to reveal a lot with my over under this week. Yeah. This is the part where you sit down with your therapist and they say, so. So? So? So, what's up with you? I don't, why don't you start? How have you been?

That's crazy because you had to pass our last session. Everything good with you? Everything good with you? Oh, you're in a doctor's appointment? Oh, okay. Okay. That's crazy because you're a doctor. That's fucked up.

But you need an appointment? He'll yourself. Exactly. Miles, we like to start off by asking you. You don't have to tell me. Something you think is underrated. Underrated bowling with young kids so I could feel better about myself, even though my co-worker didn't invite me to fucking put the smack on.

Very limited. And Miles, you know what happened the last time I invited you, but we didn't invite some of the boys from the other third grade classroom. I know. And they got, you just rubbed it in their face so hard. You're right. I shouldn't have drove to the school during school hours. That was a mistake.

That was definitely a mistake. You had made at my seven-year-old's birthday party. I was, yeah, I was throwing out an airbrush picture of the two of you. Hold that t-shirts to all the kids who weren't invited with me and your son. Great rendition I did of me throwing your child up in the air. Like, but for real, underrated for me. And you saw this when we were recording the last icon episode. Yeah, man.

Cold foam. Cold foam has come through and upturned your world. I'm, I don't know, man. Every now and then, look, it's like Christmas decorations. My inner white American woman comes out. And now I'm like my white woman's Starbucks DNA is spilling out as I tried cold foam for the first time. Because I have a coffee maker that has it. I was like, what the fuck is this?

And I tried it. And I had like just like some cold like coffee that I iced. I poured that shit on top. What the fuck? This shit is like a milk cloud. And it's, so it's cold. I've not, I've not. Go on.

It's cold. It's foam. Yes. Is it sweet? That's the question that is occurring in me. Baby, you can sweet that. You can flip that. It's a blank canvas.

I put a little, I put, so the first time I had it was a straight milk and I was like, oh, this. Then I was like, let me go in the lab. I'm hearing you tell me about a meat cute. Oh, yeah, baby. I come back. I put my Sunday's best on. I put like almond extract and some vanilla extract I had from when I like I made like French toast like a while back so I had these like extracts put that in with a little bit of milk.

So I had this like vanilla almondy foam on my ice coffee. It's really the texture that I fuck with so heavy. It's like it's so fucking thick, bro. But it's I don't know how to describe it. It's so stupid. And again, it reminds me of you always saying like the best chemists are out there putting together these ideas. is for what is experientially the best thing for the consumer. And this is like one of those things that I see advertisements all the time.

Like it's, you know, like Starbucks, all the fucking big coffee places. We're on a cold foam wave for a while. And I was like, yeah, whatever. Like I don't go to like to get coffee like that anyway. So it never happened. Too many times before with their various. This shit, Jack. I'm telling you.

This is it. And then shout up producer Victor because I pulled up the, I pulled up my. cup into frame and he said, oh, fuck, you made that? Hold on. Stop the podcast. Jack, shut the fuck up. Shut the fuck up. Is that cold foam, Miles? You did that? That's you? Yes. Um, and anyway, shout out to everybody who's already known as probably like that wave has passed, but holy shit, man, it's the, it's just the texture. It's so, it's so fun. And now I'm like, I was drinking cups of hot coffee. I'm back on my cold brew shit. Because now I just give it a little flop a cold foam on top and I have a treat. Yep. I've been, I've been,

been using like a hand mixer thing to mix to mix up milk and putting that on top of coffee or yeah. And that that is pretty delicious. I wonder like what. So when you, is that how you're achieving it or do you know how it's being created by the machine? No, Jack. And just like Christ's salvation, I don't care to understand. Yeah. So I will just accept that it is.

You see ones that are footsteps and you just assume that the cold foam was carrying you. The Kofa was carrying me, bro, and has saved my soul. So I don't know. I don't know how it's done. I know Brian definitely has a barista back. I have an ericino. I'll explain it. So it's got this inductive magnetics spinner.

Here we go. Hey, Brian, real quick. Don't, don't ruin. I've not seen Miles this happy in like years. Can you just not ruin the magic for? You say it's like magic? You don't want to real deal them. Yeah.

Can you say star dust comes out? does a magical dance that we still A gnome inside And when you press the button It's one of Santa's gnomes so it's extra delicious Yeah they work in the frother During off season Yeah wait can Jack use the little wand thing

To also do it can you make cold foam But it's not going to be as good as I'm saying Similar concept Yeah it's just getting air in there Through the mixing but it's not going to be as quite as I'm telling you you you flavor that shit Echinized I'm just gonna drink a fucking 10 ounce cup of cold foam

Yeah. Okay. Fuck it. That sounds. I'm on. I'm on this one. Oh, yeah. My underrated, first of all, old school games, and I don't mean to rub this in your face, but it was cool.

Like, there were video games of this bowling alley. And the kids were really into bowling. Like the, this is a eight-year-old birthday party. They were playing bowling, having a great time. And then we got, for his, for his birthday, we got a thing from the fat, brain toy company that is like just a bunch of ball bearings that you like shoot across and my kids were like playing it all weekend. They were just having so much. What do you mean? Like a like crossfire? It's like a real. It's like crossfire except less chaotic because you take one shot at a time and you're trying to knock over. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Apparently this company, fat brain toy company like has a bunch of just very like tactile analog games. like that that are super fun. It's like drinking games, but

for children. Oh shit, okay. So shout out to that. But while I was at my child's birthday party, I was not invited to that Miles was not on it. Probably because you, probably because you didn't want me to fuck these kids up with my bowling game.

It would have been too embarrassing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, that's good. That's good. You're good, I'm not going to say who was embarrassing for, but it would have been too embarrassing. Thank you. Thank you. I was on hold for the first hour. of my kid's birthday party. So I was, as mentioned,

I was supposed to fly to New York, uh, yesterday for, uh, on air fest, which is like a podcast festival. A couple of our shows on big money players, uh,

have, are doing live shows. Shout out mess. Yeah. Yeah. A movie with Eric Andre. Um, so good.

Uh, if you're in New York and able to get out of your house, uh, go, go check it out. Um, because I think that the shows are still happening. It's just planes are not.

not landing in New York. Or anywhere in like the northeast, right? Like I heard like Boston shut down too. Yeah, I was trying everything. And spent two hours. Like Hathar and Home Alone? I was like here. Do you want my earrings? Yeah.

But yeah, spent hours on hold with the travel company. Got rebooked on a flight. That one immediately got canceled. It spent like more hours on hold. And at that point, like it sort of became. like a religious experience. At first I was annoyed, but like two hours in, I was just like, this is my life now.

This is where I live is on hold. Inside this 30 second phrase of music repeating itself over and over again, I started appreciating the hold music in a new way. And then when the hold music goes dead for a couple seconds randomly, like not at a set point, but just randomly, I no longer like got excited that they were coming for me, you know, at those moments. I like, I just was like, nobody's coming. This is a joke.

This is, this is all a joke. Damn. I feel like I went through all the stages of castaway on this call. Yeah, you're like, this is my new friend Brunswick. Exactly. He's eight pounds. But yeah. Dude, it's just so funny to think of, that's like kind of, it reminds me of like being a kid when like the dad was doing.

some other shit that was more important than the birth. I'm not saying that that's what it was, but I have this visual of like, there's a birthday party and then the dad is like doing like work or something. Yeah. And you just, that is what it was.

Yeah, you were like, you were there on the phone getting it done. I was giving the kid a, one second. Yeah. Sorry, no,

they were doing the thing where they fake me out and pretend like they're an operator, but it's actually them just being like, oh yeah. They value my time. Yeah. Oh, man. And then they,

did answer right when we like right when the bowling alley like turned the music up so then the next time that I was on hold I was like I created this universe of my head where like I could get them to answer by doing something where it would be really inconvenient for them oh my god like if I was like you know so you really lost your damn mind yeah I lost my mind on this hold and then also underrated is like four hours in my wife told me about hold assist which you know what is that way six hours what six hours into this ordeal when she noticed me in the corner speaking in tongues she was like you know my phone has this feature hold assist and sure enough mine did too where it's essentially it's your phone is on hold but it'll just call you when they come

back and so you don't even have to like oh my god music So that's really my underrated, unless you want to have like this horrible, like one of those like bad ayahuasca experiences that people come out of and they're like, but I learned so much about myself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I feel like I had that this weekend with being on hold. You can also experience that. But you can also skip it because there's something called hold assist, at least on iPhones, where you just like go in and it'll. Yeah, bro. It's pretty easy to find.

I didn't know that, man. See, this is where our millennial brains were like locked in a technological reality where it's like, there is no solve for this. You have to go into some kind of hold induced. This is where I live now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Shout out to Opus number one. Oh, yeah. Have you seen that clip of the dude bumping it in his car? Like, it's really the jam. Somebody needs to wrap over that. I don't know. I feel like there has to be a SoundCloud rapper who's done something with that. Ever since that This American Life episode, I feel like.

Where they chased it down. Yeah. What is something, Miles, you think is overrated? Overrated is starting any new activity or hobby with any level of experience. Like being like, oh, yeah, this will be fun. No. Starting from zero. Zero.

Is actually the shit. It's so much better. I know this because I have began. Now, brace yourselves, listeners. Uh-oh. This is going to be something that you have never heard me say in the entirety of you listening to this show. I have began to work out. Okay.

I began to prioritize my physical corporal health in a way that is very novel to me. Before I was relying purely on my genetics and metabolism and my resting metabolic rate or whatever the fitness person was telling me about. You got a good one? They were like, wow. No, they don't know. They're just like, getting by. I mean, I was just like, I'm not like, yeah, I can tell. Okay, well, hold on.

Hold on. Well, hold on. Hold on. Now, why am I on fucking trial? It's just great because I don't, like, I've never been a gym person. Like, I've had gym memberships in the past, but it's usually like a thing where I'll go for three weeks, do like one machine run for 10 minutes on treadmill. The second I sweat or feel uncomfortable, I'm like, ooh, all right, that's enough. Better go home and smoke a blunt.

And now, I think especially. as I'm, you know, now 41 years old. I have a kid and I think as much as possible about like, dude, I want to, I'm cooking his ass with the soccer ball. Okay. He's trying to get the ball. Yeah. I need to stay like, I need to stay on top of it.

I still, and then the other day we were at the park with some of his classmates. There was a ball. I was playing keep away. The other parents like, is he okay? He's like, he's going like way too hard on these like toddlers. But anyway, I think now, just like my priorities shift. I've taken it seriously. I'm trying to do this shit like three times a week because I need, I really have to do it or else I'm not going to sustain this.

Like I just know myself. Like I need to be beholden to somebody to be like, okay, I'm here. You're taking your time to help me. Let's do this. Let help me become healthier. And part of it was I'm just so fucking weak that it was great because I'm like so sore and shit and like weak. But I'm like, bro, I'm starting to fucking negative two. every fucking subsequent session,

I'm going to be like, holy shit. Look at me. I already feel like that. I feel like already so much better. So there's something, before I was a little intimidated, I'm like, man, I'm not doing this shit. Like, this isn't me. And I used to just sort of be in my mind,

be like, this isn't, healthy, healthy isn't for me. This fucking healthy dork over here. Just, just starting low. And now I feel I'm just great because when you're at the bottom, baby, there's nowhere but up to go. Yeah. So I'm excited to keep people tuned into my fitness journey as I go on.

I promise I will not quit next week. I will not quit. I will not quit. We'll check in. Oh, you'll see, bro. On top of every week. I'm going to start wearing like weird ass muscle teas and shit. I'm like, oh man, this guy's, he's losing it.

He's losing it. And then at a certain point, you start wearing the teas that people wear to hide. Yeah, bro, got a sleeper builds. Dude, I got a total sleeper build under here. That's what I've seen videos like that. I really Chappelle and a Dre did that one time where they like came out like big sweatshirts. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You'll see, bro. You'll see it in the live show. Whenever we get that with that tour going, I'm going to have to be like, y'all got, you want to see a Mac truck? The first 15 minutes of the live show is just going to be mild posing. And I got that wild fucking like problematic like body bronzer on like the weightlifters do. Just all sloppy. completely dehydrated.

Is that what they do? I think you got to. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've had nothing but coffee for the past six days. Oh yeah, no, no, I'm not looking to change my body. I just need to get stronger.

Dude, the podcast thing is, it is detrimental. Yeah, you get hot ass. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It's not great. Yeah. No, I just got to help my back because it's all related, man.

It all runs up and down the hamstrings. Yeah, I've been, I thought I had made progress on my back. because I started actually exercising just like strength in my back a couple years ago. Yeah. And recently my back pain has come back.

Well, yeah. You know, not me. I just started working out. Just have my first session ever. Just so you know, I've had one fucking session.

Okay. Wow. But I can tell because I'm already locked in. I paid the money and I can't waste it. So I know myself. Like if there's money, there's no fucking way, I'm going to be like,

you know, actually, I don't think we can do it this week. make them make them make you you know my overrated is uh the anticipation shot in tv just like the i noticed this during the olympics but like dull anticipation is basically the primary lifeblood of television like wanting to know what's going to happen next um you see it with like i mean it's like every procedural tv show law and order uh the evening news being like what ingredient in your food might make your inside shit out of your body.

Right, right, right. 11, it's like, turns out nothing. Nothing. You're like, why would you say that then? But like, will they, they won't they TV shows succeed until it's revealed that they will? And then they like fall off a cliff usually. Uh, but there are these two moments, these two like shots that feel kind of crazy. Like the masked singer I was talking about, I had to watch my first masked singer,

uh, you know, five minutes of a mass singer episode. for the Tony Hawk iconograph that we did because that's like what what he's been up to in the past couple years. And it's really, it feels like you're in a fucking Verhoeven movie. Like you're just, it's so weird. The masked singer. And then they do this like shot where everybody is waiting. Oh, I've seen. Yeah.

do like the fake, they're pretend like the mask is stuck on the person's head. Like they do a bad job of acting it. And then everybody in the crowd, it's just like a series of 20 shots of people's faces being like, what? Yeah.

And then they also, but they also kind of do this with the Olympics where like most of the runtime of watching the Olympics is showing the person waiting for their score for like two minutes. Just like watching. getting off the ice sitting down staring at a board

yeah yeah yeah no it felt good yeah yeah yeah exactly like talking to the person next to them their part is tapping their thigh there's a performance to that anticipation shot too of the Olympians which is so funny too or like it's not often you see someone

just get in there like God damn bro and just be like I'm on I'm still on I'm on camera this is also part of the gig they still they look like they're posing for like a high school photograph, you know, the whole time. I don't know. I just don't need it.

I don't know. Go show another performance at that time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It feels like anticipation pornography at that point where it's just like I feel like I'm being fooled, you know? And that's the point probably. Yeah, that is the point. Yeah. I don't know.

Fool me, I guess. May it make me forget. What would you like instead? Like, because if there is, I'm sure I'd imagine like the way the competition actually works is like, the, of. next the next contestant or competitor won't go up until that thing.

So would you rather see a warm-up rather than come on? I guess it's good TV. I think I just hate TV. It's just brutal. I think, yeah, just knowing. And like, damn, I didn't realize the Canadians ended up winning gold and curling.

Did they really? Little fuckers. Yeah, little fuckers. Little fuckers. Speaking of the Canadians. Speaking of the fuckers who won gold, yeah, we'll get to the guitar little fuckers in a second.

Oh, God. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about the BAFTAs. We'll talk about the Olympics. And we'll talk about tariffs. We'll be right back. In 2023, a story gripped the UK, evoking horror and disbelief. The nurse who should have been in charge of caring for tiny babies is now the most prolific child killer in modern British history. Everyone thought they knew how it ended. A verdict, a villain, a nurse named Lucy. Letby. Lucy Letby has been found guilty. But what if we didn't get the whole story? The moment you look at the whole picture, the case collapses. I'm Amanda Knox, and in the new podcast, doubt the case of Lucy Letby, we follow the evidence and hear from the people that

lived in, to ask what really happened when the world decided who Lucy Lettby was. No voicing of any skepticism or doubt. It'll cause so much harm at every single level of the British establishment of this is wrong. Listen to doubt the case of Lucy Letby on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. China's Ministry of State Security is one of the most mysterious

and powerful spy agencies in the world. But in 2017, the FBI got inside. This is Special Agent Regal, special agent Bradley Hall. This MSS officer has no idea the U.S. government is on to him. But the FBI has his chats, texts, emails, even his personal diary.

Hear how they got it on the Sixth Bureau podcast. I now have several terabytes of an MSS officer, no doubt, no question, of his life. And that's a unicorn. No one had ever seen anything like that. It was unbelievable. This is a story of the inner workings of the MSS and how one man's ambition and mistakes opened its vault of secrets. Listen to the sixth bureau on the Iheart radio app,

Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, this is Joe Winterstein, host of the Spirit Daughter podcast, where we talk about astrology, natal charts, and how to step into your most vibrant life. And I just sat down with a mini driver. The Irish traveler said when I was 16, you're going to have a terrible time with men. Actor, storyteller, and Unableness.

apologetic Aquarian visionary. Aquarius is all about freedom-loving and different perspectives, and I find a lot of people with strong placements in Aquarius are misunderstood. A son and Venus and Aquarius in her seventh house spark her unconventional approach to partnership. He really has taught me to embrace people sleeping in different rooms, on different houses, in different places, but just an embracing of the isness of it all. If you're navigating your own transformation or just want to chart-side view into how a leading artist integrates astrology, creativity, and real life, this episode is a must listen. Listen to the Spirit Daughter podcast starting on February 24th on the IHeartRadio app, Apple

podcast, or wherever you listen to your podcast. What if mind control is real? If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult?

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The biggest mind game of all, NLP, might actually work. This is wild. Listen to Mind Games on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And the BAFTAs were last night. This is the UK Academy Awards. Yeah.

with a way better statuette like the mask. Yeah, that makes more sense when you're talking about like theater arts versus like this shapeless physical form

is my uncle Oscar. You're like, what the fuck? All right. It looks like he's in one of those full like shadow figure body suits. Yeah, exactly. Exactly.

The red carpet was wild. Did you see Paddington? I saw Paddington come out on stage and eat shit. Wait, did Paddington eat shit? Not like physically, but like came out and gave a speech that was not, was not well received. Just complete silence. That's, okay.

I like the misunderstanding that I'm like, dude, he ate shit. Yeah. That's a, in a way, literally. He didn't physically eat a piece of shit. And he also didn't fall over. But he came out and gave a speech that just. just it felt like it was a hall of president's animatronic thing. And so everybody reacted thusly.

Everybody reacted as though it were just, you know, the machine. He had a mini podium and everything. Okay, let's hear Paddington. But my aunt Lucy says, you have to face your fears. Unless it's a snake. Then you have to walk away very slowly. Oh, man. Yeah.

And it goes, like, that was the big laugh. Right. that. Yeah, they're only halfway through this clip. Part of him he's like, don't do this to Paddington. Don't do that to Paddington. Don't do that to Paddington. Give him better material.

Yeah. But the big horrific moment was when John Davidson, who has Tourette syndrome is the subject of the nominated film, I swear, about his struggle with Trette syndrome, screamed out the N-word while Michael B. Jordan and Delroy

Lindo were presenting on stage. Yeah. And then they just did not handle it well at all. Like the broadcast, the host, like everyone, it was just like compounding errors basically over and over. The host's Alan Cumming came out and said, you may have noticed the strong language and said that he was sorry if anyone was offended. Yeah. If anyone was offended is just. Like kind of said like, you know, obviously like it's on these ticks or involuntary.

and their obscenities can be yelled. But yeah, saying like, and apologies if you were offended, people are like, well, hold on, bro, this dude just shot at the N-word out at Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo. Sorry if you were offended. And, you know, I think, I think, you know, anyone who's been, like, known anyone with Tourette's

or been around anyone with Tourette's, you know that it's totally involuntary. So it's like, you're not like, how dare this man? It's just the way everything was handled before, and after just makes it so much shittier. And I feel bad, you know, Michael B. Jordan and Delroy Lindo had to do the thing that black people have become very accustomed to, which is being called a slur in public, even though it's involuntary, but having to hear such a thing be shouted out in a quiet room as you're trying to present something. Right.

And then doing the very rapid calculus of going, what the fuck was that? They just said, oh, hell, no. Okay, just keep it moving. Be professional. you know, what the fuck is this? And then just handled it with grace, unfortunately, as centuries of white supremacy has forced us to do. But while it's totally understandable that the man was doing this involuntarily,

the BBC also did this weird thing of how they handled the airing of it all. Yeah. So they had, this was on a delay. Two hours. A two hour delay. And apparent, like, their explanation was like, we had a three hour broadcast because they did have to explain. editing some stuff out.

Sure. And so they were like, look, we had a three-hour broadcast. We had to cut it down to two hours. Some stuff is going to get cut. Not that. However, they did not cut that at all. I also just want to note, Lindo also said that he wished that, quote,

someone from DAPTA spoke to us afterwards. That's wild. Didn't say anything. They're just like, ooh, awkward. I think, again, speaks to the, you know, whiteness of it all of being like, well, they're used to that. Right. They're like, and they, and in that guy also, he did it involuntarily. Like, let's, let's just not, let's just really not approach this and acknowledge anything.

Because it's a shitty situation for everybody. I'm sure the guy is mortified that his tick just ended up like kind of completely overshadowing the night. Michael B. Jordan and many other people who are like, you know, it's not ideal. I get it. And I don't know how else you handle it. but maybe, yeah, you could have somebody from the BAFTA awards could have been like, we are so sorry about that. You know, please tell us how we can, you know, help you or if you're affected by this,

da, da, da, da, da, da. But it wasn't. And then I think which also made it quite baffling was you're like, okay, so you don't censor someone screaming out a racial slur at all. And whether or not that's because you're trying to bring away. I don't know what the purpose of that is. However, you did cut other things. Like when the winners of the outstanding British debut, these two Nigerian brothers,

Walee Davies and Akanola Davies Jr., accepted their award. And this part of the speech was censor for some reason. But the racial slurs were not. I'll just give the last bit of his acceptance speech. And lastly, to all those whose parents migrated to obtain a better life of their children, to the economic migrant, the conflict migrant, those under occupation, dictatorship, persecution, and those experiencing genocide, you matter, your stories matter more than ever. Your dreams are an act of resistance.

To those watching at home, archive your loved ones, archive your stories yesterday, today, and forever. For Nigeria, for London, the Congo, Sudan, Free Palestine, thank you. No, we can't have that. Not that part. Not that part. Way too. way too controversial. Hold on. You said free Palestine?

Yeah. Uh, no. No. Leave the N word. Leave it. Leave that. But we can't have another Gloustonbury. That is what we surely won't have.

Um, yeah, which is, again, apparently, like the Bob villain death to the IDF chant at Glastonbury was like, that's all they were thinking about. Yeah. There's no way we can, we can have anyone. say anything that could potentially hurt the feelings of the Israeli government or their lobbyists. Please, please, please. It's such a shitty, just such a clear decision to make.

You know, that's intentional. There's no way you go, oh, we didn't catch that part where he yelled it out and didn't want to censor that at all or edit that out. It had to be addressed in the show. Yeah. And apparently they thought they addressed. they addressed it so well that they were like, we're going to want to show that. Yeah.

No, no, no, just windmilled, just fucking Larry Nance that thing from the, like, that apology to anyone who might have been offended for saying. Sorry that you were offended by that. Yeah.

Yeah. If you were offended, sorry, but that's kind of on you. I feel like they could have spent a little more time getting ahead of how they might have to explain what had happened before. Yeah. You know what I mean?

So you had something that was, again, for this person with Tourette's and being like, dude, this guy, obviously this is involuntary. And also, part of that is unfortunate, like in these public spaces, things that are horribly offensive will be shouted for that experience or deeply, whatever, you know, whatever it is. Yeah. But this isn't really surprising, and especially in the UK right now, because the British government recently designated Palestine action, a fucking terrorist group as, you know, because they want to prevent the mass casualty crime of holding a.

sign that says free Palestine in public. Over 2,000 people have been arrested for expressing support for Palestine action since then. And it's signs that say, I oppose genocide. I support Palestine action. Well, they had weapons, Miles. They're holding weapons. They're holding placards. Those words are, they hurt. But again, those two decisions to completely excise any mention of the genocide and the suffering of Palestinian people while completely leaving in a racial slughey. are being yelled at these two black men. I think just completely reinforces the power of like hegemonic whiteness and colonialism

in a show that, again, was like, the Bafters have also caught flack for not being as diverse. You know, it's the same thing like Oscar's so white. There was Bafters so white. And they were, you know, they're making moves to try and have a more diverse, inclusive awards show.

But then you're doing shit like this, which completely just troads on all the suffering in things that people have had to endure that you're trying to supposedly on or on stage. So not a great move, bathtub, but look at you. Look at you now. Good at acknowledging the Epstein files, maybe not so good at acknowledging what's premise.

Yeah, and probably leaving out some of interesting details about the, who knows, who knows at this point? But yeah, it was just, I think a lot of people, it was interesting because a lot of people on the internet were just sort of treating this guy as just saying, like as if Donald Trump was in the audience just like yelling shit out and it's like one no no hold on hold on hold on yeah yeah this is Tourette syndrome

when obviously like that is a shit like completely fucks up everything to have to hear that but um yeah I guess that BBC chose they chose sides for sure yeah all right we should talk about the tariffs because the Supreme Court made a rare deviation from reflexively enforcing every whim of the president with a six three ruling that declared many of Donald Trump's tariffs, the illegal Roberts, Barrett, and Gorsuch came through.

Gorsuch was not happy with the other justices. Yeah, rejected the emergency tariffs. And the court found the 1977 law designed to address national emergencies did not provide the legal justification for most of the Trump administration's tariffs on countries across the world. I mean, this is, like, everybody has been saying that since he imposed them. It was really just a question of like,

were these people so in the bag for Trump? You know, this is the Supreme Court. That was basically like, yeah, no, I think the president can do basically whatever he wants. Right. A couple years ago. And now it seems like maybe they've seen the consequences of that ruling. And they're like, oh, yeah.

This is we picked the wrong one. this guy seems like a fucking disaster. But yeah, a bit of a no shit ruling for people who pay attention to the law and kind of understand what the law is. Right. Well, yeah,

because everything's like, I'm going to do things because I say it is. And then the Supreme Court's like, I guess. I mean, like, maybe. And also, there's also reading an article about like how federal judges are like,

we don't know what the fuck to do about the DOJ. Like, they're breaking the law. Yeah. And completely ignoring rulings. They were lawyers who were not representing the Department of Justice. Like you would be getting smashed to bits with sanctions and shit. Yeah. But yeah, that's kind of like the pace they're at.

And I think also too that immediately be like, well, I'm actually going to raise it on everyone thing. Is part and parcel of like the do not let anyone show you to be weak. And if they say no, you go harder at the expense. Like the guy was saying like, I'm allowed to destroy the country if I want to. Yeah, that was so wild. Like, so he found out in front of people, like in front of the press, like, while he was doing a, I don't know, a breakfast. And he just like started spiraling and called the court totally defective and proclaimed that he's allowed to destroy the country, even if he can't impose terror. This is, this is him saying, just doing jazz right after it.

But here he goes, being like, I can do anything. But I am allowed to cut off any of. all trade or business with that same country. In other words, I can destroy the trade. I can destroy the country. I'm even allowed to impose a foreign country destroying embargo. I can embargo. I can do anything I want, but I can't charge one dollar. Because that's not what it says. Yeah. Yeah. He also said, I want to be a good boy reminding us all that most of these policies only exist because his parents didn't love him. Yeah.

You know? And which is funny too because, uh, what was that? On Friday, I think it was. He, uh, also he went back to the daddy, will I go to heaven thing again? Yeah. He circled back to it. This is when he was in Georgia. It's not worthy of heaven.

I'm not going to make it. And I was having a good time going. You know, I was having fun. I hope to make it. But I doubt I will, to be honest. A lot of you will. I'm not social. I don't know if you guys read the obscene files.

I don't know if I'm going to make it. Kind of in there a lot. Kind of in there a lot. You know, something's eating away at me subconsciously. I can't quite put my finger on it. But I don't know. I don't think I'm going to be in heaven.

Diffuse unspecified things will not get me into heaven. You know me floating down the river sticks, baby. Talking to my favorite band, sticks. So that was in Georgia. he went on to tell a prolonged anecdote about the time Andrew Seville, president of Cusa Steel in Rome, Georgia, who Trump bragged was a very powerful man, wanted to kiss him so badly.

Did you? He's very powerful. I'm telling you, I met this guy and he said something that his wife is going to be extremely upset. I said, how are you doing? He said, president, if I didn't have all these cameras running, I would grab you and start kissing you. violently. Okay. Oh, here's

that. Oh, wow. So interesting. He, this is actually at the first one. Yeah. It's big enough to take the press in this room, but a lot of the press right here, we're in Georgia. And I said to the owner,

I made a speech at a factory. They made steel products. And I said, how are you? Nice to meet you. How's business? President, I'd love to kiss you. that's almost just like that set up alone i'm doing this thing i'm out of steel factory i meet the guy go how you doing and he goes president i'd love to kiss you holy shit guys okay this is like right

after this is he just found out that the supreme court overturned his tariff right because this is a very classic classic reflex from trump which is to if he takes an l is to immediately talk about how someone said i will die without you sir yeah yeah if it weren't a or not for your love and salvation, I would not be here. Okay. This is a very powerful man. I don't want to be kissed by that man, but a very powerful, strong man. He's been in the steel business for many years.

His father started it. And he said, sir, I want to kiss you. He said, why? He said, because we were down to work in one hour a week. And then you came in and imposed tariffs. And all of that foreign junk that they were dropping into our country stopped. Anyway, I like how he goes, he's a very powerful man. I don't want to be kissed by that man.

But I'm just saying. A little bit of. Very powerful. So we're talking about agency now? If he. Talk about consent? Oh, you think that's what he is saying. No, I was just saying.

I thought he sensed one part of himself wanting to be kissed by him. I don't even know what it is. I don't want to be kissed by him. It's so fucking weird because what are you talking about? You're so fucking senile. time on some guy wanting to kiss you. President, if I didn't have these cameras running, I would grab you and start kissing you violently.

Yeah, maybe he's talking consent. I don't even know. But you know what I mean? Like, it's just, again, this man has no business being president before all of the senility issues. Right. And now, to add to that, you're like, this is, this guy is part of a cover-up. one of the most heinous political coverups of our fucking ever.

Yeah. And then he's also just, just fucking freestyling up there saying whatever, dude. Yeah. He then may or may not have decided to call him to C-SPAN. That was an impersonator. I listened to that call. It was a good impersonator, though.

Yeah. Yeah. But has that been confirmed? It was an impersonator? If you listen to it, you're like, bro, Donald Trump does not sound this clear head. It's crisp. Yeah.

No, no, no. That was like a crisp $20 bill. from like 50 years ago. They're like, no, no, they don't look like this anymore. They're all crumpled up and have blood on them. But yeah. So he's reacting to this in a very personal, petulant way that we would expect him to,

bragging that, like, powerful men want to kiss him. And in the case of, you know, his job as president, he announced that he would replace the tariffs scrapped by the court with a 10% levy on all goods coming into the U.S. And then on Saturday, he was like, actually, fuck it. It's 15.

like just, you know, losing an argument with himself and being like, we're going to do, we're going to do it this way. Yep. Yep. So that's how will that affect countries that have already negotiated 10% tariff deals with the U.S.? Like the UK and Australia? Great question. Don't have an answer.

Don't get fucked everybody else. No at all. Yeah. It's, we don't know. We don't know. But it's just like, again, this is one of those. moments where he has to project power like it when he takes these

L's and that's what makes me even more like the Iran clock feels like it's ticking. We'll probably talk about it tomorrow's episode but I think Benny Johnson's like already trying to like prime the audience for whatever the fuck he thinks is going to happen.

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We're back. We're back now. So Cash Patel loves taking vacations but hates paying for vacations. He loves when we pay for his when I pay my taxes and he gets to travel as a result

he so he recently traveled to Italy but not to hang out at the Olympics FBI spokesperson Ben Williamson was like in a long argument with the media being like guys what are you talking about. He's not there to like have fun and play at the Olympics.

So he posted a picture of him at like some event, you know, just like something, like taking a picture next to a bunch of people who are actually like working security at the Olympics. And Ben Williamson wrote, this is the fourth public official event since director Patel's arrival in Italy. And for those wondering, I have yet to receive any follow up from CBS or MS now who purposefully misled people to think cash was flying to. Italy to hang out at the Olympics. Okay. When an MS now

reporter asked if he'd be attending the gold medal hockey game, Williamson responded, your rag outlet wrote that he went to hang out at the Olympics on the taxpayer dime, even when provided information

that your theory was false. When you're ready to correct that, let me know. Won't hold my breath. So, it's like, oh, you could have just been like, yeah, he's going to the game while he's there doing the thing. But instead, he was like, you're fucked, actually. I'm going to kill you.

Kill you for asking that question. And then the U.S. hockey did win an overtime thriller over Canada, over Canada. And anybody who's rooting for them. I was rooting for Canada. I know. And if you got sucked in by the U.S., you were made to immediately regret it.

because their celebration was very Patel heavy. He was in the locker room chugging beer, partying with the team. They put the gold medal on his neck. Just listen to this and know that as I play this clip, Cash Patel's got, took a beer bottle from six to midnight. Okay, straight up in the air perpendicular,

chugging a beer while the hockey team screaming around him. now he's throwing the beer on the room. Yes, splashing it on his head. He's screaming like he's the motherfucking captain. He's banging the table. They put the gold medal on him. Look at your fucking broke boy. Reminded of that story that Joe Montana tells

where he was like, yeah, we all hated Rudy. We were carrying him off the field sarcastically at the end of the game because Cat Patel is like, half the size of these guys. And Cash Patel plays hockey. Oh, yeah. And I bet he's like, these are my brothers. These are my fellow comrades in hockey.

I hate that this motherfucker wears the same. Because he was playing in a congressional hockey guy. I remember last year played in some congressional hockey game. And I was like, what the fuck, bro? This is the one sport I could fucking actually play decently. I want to be out there. I want to see Cash Patel on ice. I want to see if you're nice with the cash because everything I've seen is not good.

And then also that fucking there's, he got Trump on the phone too with them and was like, yeah, we're going to have to have you guys at down to the White House. You fly you guys out there, but we're going to have to invite the women's team to unfortunately. And they're like, oh, yes, dude. And he's like, I might get impeached. And like, they're all fucking laughing. And then he's like, I'm sure we're putting it together now. And Cash Rtoe's like, on it right fucking now, boss. Oh my God.

It was so fucking insufferable. And again, you've got, I don't know, Savannah Guthrie's mom's still missing. Yeah. Fucking, I know they've completely passed on doing any kind of civil rights investigation for the ice shootings. But you know, the fucking episode. There's so many other fucking things that, you know,

if you're the head of the fucking FBI, you shouldn't be out there slamming fucking Bud Light in Italy. Yeah. There's a maggie guy who, like, showed up at Marilago over there. the weekend. Yeah. Yeah, tried to enter Maralaga with a shotgun and a gas can. Yeah.

And the Secret Service killed this guy. Yeah. Because he apparently was like there to do some fucking wild shit. And again, there's another MAGA person, although the right was immediate, like, it's probably some trans left wing, blah, blah, blah. No, this guy was full on fucking MAGA. And guess what? He apparently was getting really frustrated over the Epstein five.

and what he believed was a cover-up and kept telling coworkers that powerful people were, quote, getting away with it. Interesting theory by that guy. Interesting theory by that guy. Cash Patel, drink your beer bottle. He only got three sips in, but that's okay, Cash, your terrible FBI director. And just such a, just like a joke. And now it's funny to hear the right winger's being like, oh, he's being patriotic. It's like, yeah, go in there and shake a hand.

Yeah. You don't have the beers with an after. Yeah, you don't need to be like doing keg stands, like being the fucking life of the party. When, yeah, when the perception is you are a deeply unsurious head of the FBI who would rather be fucking around than actually doing any kind of law enforcement, going in there and screaming, fuck yeah, let's fucking go. Yeah. Is not the look. Okay. No, not great. Not great, cash.

People were like, Obama hung out with celebrities. and it's like, what is that even mean? What are you talking about? Show me where he's coming in or getting beer all over himself, like in the fucking locker room while all these other important things are going on. So, yes, Cash Patel continue to be a joke. Yeah, that does suck. Just to like be from the U.S., sometimes, you know,

you get sucked in by the broadcasts and being like, this guy, like, came from nothing. He's like from this town in Massachusetts. and you're like, all right, here we go. And then they're like, yeah, cash. Yeah, they're like, oh, you'll fuck. Love it, President Trump. Yeah.

Fuck, fuck off, guys. Yeah, I think there's some of the, like, it's probably one of the most MAGA of the professional sports league. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, you go to a hockey game. It's like a fish concert in there. That is a white crowd.

Yeah, but you got it among the whitest group of people. Yeah. Yeah. I was always. I definitely heard some interesting things being a black and these hockey players in California in the 90s. Times you're like, huh, all right, oh, oh. I think, I think, like, some white supremacists think, like, this is their basketball or something. Right.

You know what I mean? That's what, like, when black players are doing one, they're like, get the fuck out of you. Right. Yeah. And finally, we have a report that support for Israel was a net negative for the Kamala Harris' 2024 campaign. Who put this out, some kind of one of the radical left-wing groups? The DNC.

Huh? So the DNC conducted a secret autopsy of the 2024 election. Oh, my God, secret. They, they, I mean, it wasn't secret until they came up with this finding where they met with the Institute for Middle East Understanding and admitted that the Biden-Harris administration's support for Israel was a factor in the party's losses because it. drained support from some young people and progressives. No shit, guys. Wow, wow, wow. That didn't help the enthusiasm gap, huh?

Yeah, it seems like, hey, whatever the Republicans say. Well, then wait, what's the difference? Yeah. Sorry. Okay, okay. That's so funny of, like, why it's like secret L. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But that everyone with a brain was like, yeah, there's a lot of people who are upset about this and are telling you that constantly.

They edited this report out of the BAFTAs, you know? Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah, exactly. But yeah, it's being withheld from the public because of its findings on Israel, which the DNC is denying. But pretty much everybody's like, why else would you withhold it? Yeah, exactly. Like, shouldn't this be instructive? as you pursue office again?

Mm-hmm. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Seems like not. Shows why these Democrats who are going to be fucking vying for people's support are going to, this is how they're still moving.

It's still like, the fucking seat. It's not our policies. Stop, don't tell us it's our policies. Guys, how we say things. It's not margin, slightly better

than what's happening now. Okay. Right. Okay. Jesus Christ. And then what are the learnings from that? It's going to be like, just don't talk about it at all. Make it illegal to talk about it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's right. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this February 23rd. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourself. Get your vaccines way you still can.

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