The Daily Zeitgeist - DSA DERANGEMENT SYNDROME! 06.26.26

Episode Date: June 26, 2026

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Babies are so selfish, like, is the thing that, like, nobody tells you. Just that being a coward. They're fucking assholes, dude. They don't listen. They don't, they don't listen when I say, Daddy got to work. The thing I always wanted, which is how come right as my dog seems to be almost smart enough that it could talk to me and be a little buddy, it dies. This is like a dog that will fully, you know, like he just, and it's crazy to see it.

it's just, you know, as rewarding as it is to see a switch on like a light. Like three hours ago, this fool did not know colors. What color was what? And now three hours later, we can go, bring me the orange ball, bring me the blue ball. And it's like, wow, you can isolate the moment he understood what that we're saying, oh, they must be referring to that quality. They must be asking me about color. That's like, man, I didn't, it's so, I mean, it would have.

It has to be granular, but it's weird to pinpoint it. Or like, you know, the first step you witness, you're like, wow, that was it. What? I didn't know this fucker was going to start talking. And I had confided a lot of shit. He still barely talks. I was hoping he wouldn't, yeah. Hoping he wouldn't get that gene from me, the talking gene.

He, like, pinpoints the moon, like a hawk all the time in the daytime. Oh, it just feels like the electromagnetic field. He just knows. He's like, even indoors. he just goes. Yeah, yeah. You're like, holy shit.

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Therapy for Black Girls is bringing it all to the mic. Listen to therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 444, episode 5 of Dirtyly Zeitguise. It's a production of IHeartRadio as a podcast where you take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness through the day's news. We also have a new non-news history version of the Daily Zykeyes dropping each Monday morning, where you do a deep dive into the Zykeyes through the lens of a different icon. First episode was Einstein. Second episode was Erkel.

First, co-hosts of our guest of the first episode is with us today. And that's mainly what we're going to be talking about. Just a retrospective of our Einstein episode. I was on. Did I do that? You did it? I don't. I did the other one.

That's one thing about early parenthood is that things, I don't remember big chunks. Mm-hmm. Anyways. What do we just do? We just did Indiana Jones. Yep. We got Uncle Samuel coming up. We got Uncle Sam coming up.

Nice, tight episode with Robert Evans coming your way this coming Monday. If you ever wondered why so many people are dressed like this man. Why Sam? Why he's on stilts? Still haven't figured that one out. I think we came to the idea that it was a circus thing or a projection of America's like, like it's artificially pumped up. It's like, no, it's a guy on stilts, man.

Yeah, the worst the country's doing, the taller Uncle Sam gets. It's Uncle Sam. You're like, dude, I'll kick your ankles out. You'll fucking die. Slender man ass shit. It is Friday, June 26th, 2026. Mm-hmm. It's National Safer Workplace Day.

Okay? Can you make this place a little bit safer? It's also take your dog to work day. It's also National Dutician Day. It's also National Dutician Day. You're talking about your friend. Take your dog. to work. Hey, take your dog to work. Hey, man,

take my dog to work, bro. National Food Truck Day, oh, that was such a great era. I was, like, 2009, 10, like the beginnings of, like, you got to go on Twitter to find out where this truck is handing out savory pancakes. Bit of a truck chaser

myself. Exactly. Exactly. And a bunch other weird trade days. National Cano Day. Shout out to a canoe. I like a canoe. Love a canoe. The canoe lobby. I'm a lobbyist. that focuses on canoes

of all sorts. We got one client, yeah. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k. Maha. Y'all got thrush. Everybody drank all the milk with the pus. We just want some mops and Trump to gush about the type of people steal

a bear cub drunk. That one courtesy of Christyamaguchi, man. I'm so sorry. I wish I could have stuck the landing, but we all remember Rosa Parks. What a song. What a song. Also a person, too. I'm not familiar. We'll talk about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What a song, huh? What a song. Y'all remember Rosa Parks, the song? I just love the idea of someone... She did not care for the song that they so kindly named after her. Oh, oh, oh, did they? I'm sure they asked her, huh?

I don't think they did. I don't think they did. And she was like, what the fuck is this? She's like, who the fuck are these guys? That's Outcast. Anyway, shout out to Outcast. I'm thrilled to be joined As always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, aka. Bebeo. Sorry, I'm going to do this one. Babe. Babe, I steal pipettes, but just the mini ones.

Okay, shout out to Snarf, you love, because you're talking about how I was stealing micropipets in my biology lab in high school when Paula V was on. To what end? Just because they were small. Drug ends? No, just because. I was just like, I love stealing shit from the lab. Mm-hmm.

Because there's always like little weird plastic things, tubes, cases, whatever. The little vials for the PCR, the polymerous chain reaction centrifuge, whatever the thing that is, I used to take those and I would try and say it was for drugs, but I didn't have anything to put it. Right, right. Yeah. It was like recreating the cover of, like, is that, what's the album that has like all the drug, like them cooking up drugs in the lab? Is that Cuban link? The Beatles, drugs. The Beatles, I love that album by the Beatles, drugs.

Came right between their classic and their psychedelic theory. Only built for Cuban. It's just the two of them on there. I need somebody. Drugs. Drugs. Miles. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a brilliant filmmaker, writer, actor, comedian,

podcaster, who co-founded Small Beans, which the AV Club called one of the best podcast network. He was the head of video at Crack, starred in, helped create many of our best videos there and podcasts as well. Please welcome back to the show is Michael Swain. Michael. Michael Swam, aka in honor of episode 444, for guests like, I'm not black, I'm Michael Swain. Okay, there you go. Yeah, no, we know.

A.k.a T-Z. Swain be like, I'm not black. I'm just Swain. Okay. There you go. Yeah, Swam as is abstract. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're Swain. Separate ideal. You're Swain, bro. Thank you so much. Always happy to be here. Shout out to Christy, who's recently hopped over and become a recurring guest on the Small Beans Network as well. Oh.

Oh, Gilly. Huge fans. Real name. Willpool. Yeah. Willpool. What a name.

Does he ever do like, I wonder, I know he's listening. Remember, remember the Simpsons, Millpool? when he got the cash. Millhouse combined with what though.

Yeah. I forget what the pool was from. Millpool. Will pool. Anyway, that's a merge for you, man. If you're using your real name. If you ever want to, or are we out? He goes, he's revealed his real name before, right?

On this show, he called himself Willpool. He has on our much smaller network. Yeah. Okay. If we got the tea, I'm thrilled. Is that something maybe? I don't know. World Pool.

You know the workshop manufacturer. He likes a waffle house. is one of his brand. We'll workshop something. For the rest of the episode, Michael, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the things we're talking about later in the news section.

We're going to talk about how the establishment of Democratic Party is responding to the DSA's primary wins in New York City. And it's basically like demanding an apology. Like, they have a lot to explore. They have a lot to work to do. And that they're not handling it well. I think it's like anything. It's just like when you're not built for the new era to emerge, you start going, what the heck saw this crap?

They're not doing it the right way. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about the Grand Theft Auto six pre-order scams. Scams, no. Scams is going to be a big one, guys. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. It's going to be a big one. Jack. I think people are going to play this game. I think it might Dubafo B.O. So we'll talk about that and we will talk about America's Freedom 250 concert in D.C. and a new profile of Vanilla Ice that just dropped on the Atlantic. So all of that. The Atlanta? Oh, thank God. So they went, they actually went and got boots on the ground

in Vanilla Ice's home, which looks like Versailles for some reason. The right is really having a Versailles moment. It's always like that. I remember like the queen of Versailles that like that documentary about the woman who tried to build a Versailles replica and like in Florida. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're just like I think they're like at a some subconscious level just begging for the guillotine. That's right, right, right. The guillotine. Can't believe that's his house. Shocks to learn that in this moment that that's his house. I know. I know like that was like, I thought that was like Trump's oval office waiting room or some shit. No, man, it's Rob Van Winkle's living room.

It shows every piece himself. You like that filigree dog. That's hand-laid simulated gold leaf, man. I can't afford the real stuff. All right. All of that, plenty more. But first, Michael, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Sure. Let me scroll all the way back up to the top because there's just no way I'm going to pronounce it without my own notes. So, I chose the, it's a word from Tierra del Fuego, Mamila Pinatapai, and that's in my search history because I guess what it says about me is, and the moment I want to reflect with gratitude on was that recently my mom listened to the pilot.

Jack, Jack knows what I'm talking about. Yeah. A podcast project I'm working on and the episodes about untranslate words that are difficult to translate into English. And my mom was truly like, I understand you know. like the magic of research. I was like, how do you know everything? Or how did you know such a broad variety of? And I'm like, I didn't know any of them.

I've read books and looked through. And it is. It's magic. Especially I realize the sorcery of research is only going to become more powerful as everyone's offloads the AI. Yeah. And you're like, I could just look it up. And like, yeah, I can look stuff up too,

but I can also compose it into meaningful structures. of thought, that's going to become like blows people's mind-saving. So, Mamila Pinatipai is a word that I like from, I believe, the Yagin language. Let me make sure I'm right about that. Yeah, Yagen. Yeah, the Joggin. And this is stuff that I knew off the top of my head and I'm not looking at the Wikipedia. He's heard the thing I'm talking about.

But it at one time helped the Guinness World Record for the most concise word of all time, which is wild, because it's long. And it may be long, but try to think of a shorter way to say its definition, which is to two people looking at each other, each one hoping the other will offer to do something you both know needs to be done, but you don't want to do. Wow. Like that moment. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Who's going to blink? Mimilipinatopai. Mamilipinatipa. Mamilipa pinotipa. Wait, so and this is very common in the first two years of raising a kid with the mom, the parents. That's true. Actually. that is

you're like, I did the last one. I did the last one. I did the last one. 3 a.m. to 4.30 a.m. I did the last one. Your shift, I believe. Amazing.

What is something you think is underrated? I had a long, complicated thing, but I think we're a little pressed for time, but so I'm going to use this slot to say

my Erkle joke from the opener. I only interrupt for jokes. I just, I need you to know that, Jack. I knew you hadn't introduced the guest yet.

You said, we had this guest on for our Einstein episode. Later, we had Nurkel episode. And I said, oh, did I do that? You didn't laugh. And I want that laugh. I earned that laugh. It was the delivery was so smooth that you just let it go.

You're like, yeah, you did that episode. Yeah, you did that episode. You're a parent. You forget shit. You're a fool. Anyways, move along. Yeah. You did Jack texting me.

I'm worried about Swain. Swim, do you remember? He didn't remember the thing. No, I think he's cool. Yeah, I don't know. No, we got plenty of time. You can do both of your underage. Oracle joke, definitely hitting.

Okay. All right, all right. Then the thing I originally came with was something that's just hitting me as, oh, because we were talking about how, yes, as a comedian I lean into, Kit is hard, kid is stressful. Kid also does throw things in your life into perspective, almost like you're flipping a switch and suddenly do you have, wisdom or at least perspective in some areas or access to stuff that you didn't before,

it like makes epiphany easier, or that's in my experience. So one for me as I age and recently having a kid is the intelligence to wisdom pipeline, which D&D people will know the distinction between intelligence wisdom, but it's like problem solving in the moment, right, or pattern recognition, crunchy numbers versus, oh, you could only actually be good at that because you've done it thousands of times. It's a special insight that comes to anyone who's done a job for 15 years knows, right, right, right. Any job, like even cashier knows, like, right, but if you do this, it becomes super fast. Right, right, right.

How'd you learn that? Oh, you do it and you eventually go, I'm bored of doing this and you get fast at it. And that includes anything, including oil painting, writing jokes, whatever. And I think something that's pretty common, so not underrated, is people knowing that, like, when you're, well, I guess people have a folly both ways. But let me just say this. When you're young, in a thing you're trying to do, like you're just starting to learn a discipline

or young in your life, more globally. Try to not make decisions when you're super emotional. Try to make like problem-solving decisions from a place of intelligence and cultivate intelligence. And don't trust your gut. And maybe this is my advice. I'll stay by it. But then when you get older, my mistake was,

I'm like, stay the course. being smart and has like worked out so far. Let's stay smart. And I think now that I'm older and my time is stretched thinner, you do have to make that transition to. No, trust that you've done this a thousand times. And even though you don't know why, your gut is telling you, turn real after here and do it this way, because it knows. And you don't have time to process because the baby's crying and you got to do this and turn in the thing. So like, trust your gut. And I'm just telling people, out they're like, pick the moment, trust your intelligence, and then as you age, start to realize what things you're good at automatically and stop worrying about those things.

So basically let Jesus take the wheel. This kind of what you're, yeah. If you've trained Jesus on the wheel for 10,000 hours, so to speak, let it go. No, yeah. I signed off on all of Jesus. It's Blank. It's Malcolm Gladwell's blink. Sorry.

I let Jesus take the wheel and he drives like a fucking mane. Yeah. No, check out Jesus's paperwork, man. I signed off on all his training stuff. Train them up on all that, man. Yeah. So, yeah, I think that's right. Like, you know, having the experience of doing things, like, learning with your hands how to do things and, you know, with your, like, body and experience. And, like, yeah, actually doing stuff. And then that translates, I think, in the long run. And it's definitely something that we underrated in the United States because we hate old people. We under a wisdom even just culturally anyway. Yeah.

Right, right, right. But I definitely have loved the first half of my life, knock on wood, being like, fuck wisdom. Like, let's crunch this out. Let's figure this out on a spreadsheet. Everything always. Yeah. We're a move fast break stuff type of type of people. What is something you think is overrated?

Oh boy. Well, maybe this will convince people to come check out our paywalled, semi-paywall, long-running video games podcast, one Upsmanship, one season of which you can find for free on the IHeart Network. But I'm going to say Hollow Night. Maybe this will drive people away from the podcast. I think we had some recency bias with Hollow Night.

I was at Gamescom writing Xbox coverage that recently when Silk Song was dropped and announced and we were first playing the demo and stuff, without unpacking too much where people who don't know what the hell I'm talking about. Jack! I think it's perfectly good.

Team Cherry's great. It's all well and good. It's fine. But the level of success, it's appreciated as it fades, is making it clearly overrated as like, it's just like a cute hot topic guy

in a good Metroidvania. It's all right. Let's all calm down, especially having played through Silk Song as well. And I think a lot of other great Metroidvania which is one of my favorite indie genres, get overshadowed by that.

Everybody check out Mina the Hollower. Mina, I was going to say, I was going to bring a Mina the Hollower. I'm sure. I had to beat you to it. No breath. He's a big yacht club guy.

Big time. So this is a game. All right, I'll stop the K-Fabe that I know anything that you're talking about. This is a game that was like wildly. One of the best-selling indie games of all time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And people were like,

and it's a brilliant work of art. and as it fades in the memory. I think it because it has a unique, melancholic look that's very simple and fun. But as was pointed out, okay, without getting the story too much longer, I'm working on my first game that I hope reaches fruition,

and my lead artist opened my eyes too by talking shit on. Like, we were talking about how Slade Aspire has enjoyed this incredible success, and we love the game design is incredible and addictive and compulsive, but darn, you wish the art was just good.

Like, it's not good. Let's be honest, it just doesn't look great. It doesn't stoke your imagination or have a unique aesthetic as something like Darkest Dungeon, perhaps. And this artist, who shall remain nameless till our game drops, if it drops, was like, and you know what? Hollow Night looks like Hot Topic art. I'll say it.

And I was like, I can't shake that. It's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's this indie game that everyone loved because they're like, I just get so lonely in this weird way, walking around with this little hot. But if you look at him, he's just like a little hot topic type. Yeah. Off-brain Stan Rio character.

It's just like, why did this game become the best-selling indie game of all time at one point? I would largely say chance landed at the right time, stuff like that. I think it will fade. And I remember someone who was only playing like AAA like tent pole releases. And I remember this coming out. I was like, oh, this looks cool. And I'm like, oh. It is.

It's good. That was like my thing of like. Check out blasphemous. Owl boy. Other stuff. For sure. And I think that's what I'm like, I think at the time it looked cool. And I think for people who probably didn't know a lot, they're like, oh, yeah, this shit is sick.

This is the sickest thing I've ever seen. It's so different than like what Activision or fucking Ubisoft is putting out that it's like, oh, this feels like something new. But yeah, once I saw it, I was like, I'm not really, that's not the genre of game for me. But I definitely got, I was in the hype too reading about it and being like, oh, okay, okay. It broke through in a very major way. And then the sequel was awaited for whatever. like a century. It was just insane how every gaming convention,

the trending topic would be, they're going to say Silk Song is coming out, but they never did. Since you are pop-culturally omnivorous, I can selfishly steer this conversation in a direction that will make me understand things. I'm trying to think of a movie that has a similar footprint that's beloved when it comes out

and then sort of disappears from the cultural, Minescape. Aaron Brockovich. Aaron Brockovich. I feel like people still kind of fuck with. But is it so it's that? I do too. I'm saying it's good. It's just not so good that it comes up every time you mention the greatest movies of all

time. Yeah. Right, right, right. I was trying to pick one that's not like Forrest Gumpus like that, but there's clear reasons. As a society, we decided it started to seem dated to like act that way. Right. But I'm like, what is forgotten even though it is. is good, but it's just like not good enough to be remembered forever.

I feel like that's how people felt about the first avatar, but how so many avatars have like come out since then that it's hard to be like it's continue to be like it's completely disappeared. But for a while, people were like, man, Avatar was a thing. And now nobody cares about that at all. Like nobody thinks about Avatar at all. Do you mean young people who seem into the sequel from time to time. Producer Catherine points out in chat, the Game of Thrones was so like, killed itself so hard that we all decided it's depressing to talk about.

That's bad, right? You're like, let's just not talk about it. It was good time. It was good, but let's just move on. Remember the good times, babe? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got a restraining order against you. Was a huge movie at the time that completely disappeared immediately, but I feel like that would be a little bit dismissive of this game.

Like, this game seems like it's bigger and better than that, right? The hours? The hours. Do you keep going with like such More niche Such like Oscar Bate movies? Wait Mr. Hollins,

but Opus, wasn't it huge that I just remember it being a big deal in my household at the time. And then everyone was like, fuck that. And even Dreyfus didn't so, I don't know his dirt.

He's just a jerk. Yeah, he's an asshole. I thought Dreyfus was like, you know, gonna be an Al Pacino the whole time I walked the face of the earth and he sure went away. No.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He did crippen. Dundorf's tribe. That's true. He did a lot of ones that disappeared for very good reasons.

Guardians of Gahul. Of course, deserve to be remembered, but shant. All right. Great overrated. I learned a lot. And now I will be like, you know, Hollow Night kind of low-key.

Not as good as you think it is. I love talking video games, so I'm excited for our episode. Nice. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Up close and personal With Shinedowns, Brent Smith and Zach Myers.

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you might have been excited by the New York, the results of the New York primaries earlier this week. in which Zoran Mamdani's candidates defeated establishment Democratic candidates. And just like, it seems to be like a continuation of the thing that we keep seeing over and over. Just being like, yes, no. Water continues to be wet. People are not feeling the legacy Democrats. People don't like when you juxtapose establishment Democrats with progressives and DSA candidates. Because the difference has become real clear, real quick.

One of the reasons why Karen Bass was like, I want to go against Spencer Pratt in the mayoral election. Yeah, yeah, not someone to the left of me because then I look even worse. But yeah, Hakeem Jeffries and Zoran went head to head over some of their picks in the primary races that went down Tuesday. And wouldn't you know what, Hakeem lost. And he's now acting like this isn't a moment. This isn't like something that could be instructive to the future of the party and their, you know, their, their, their, their potential. achievements that they can reach with midterms coming up and beyond, hopefully. This is from the New Republic. It says, quote, House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries, on the

other hand, spent Wednesday trying to downplay the fact that candidates endorsed by Democratic Socialist New York City mayors Iran Mundani beat the ones Jeffries had endorsed. Quote, the mayor and I agree to strongly disagree about some of his endorsements, and he's got work to do in terms of the conversations that he's going to have with members of Congress moving forward. Speaking of succinct. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So many words.

So you agree to disagree about the endorsements, mainly that you didn't know how to pick a winner. You didn't know how to back the person who actually had the attention of the electorate. Okay. And he's got work to do in terms of the conversations that he's going to have with members. So he's like, so you got to be nice to the incumbent.

That boils down to. He works in the big building over there. Like you're literally just describing what he does day to day for his work. But also saying he's got work to do is in terms of conversations he'll have with people in the building. In terms of the conversations that he's going to have with members of Congress moving forward. Like because obviously it can't be happening in the past. So it's just, uh, moving forward. Did I hit my word limit?

Did I get my word limit? Do I get paid? Yeah. Did I have? Did I? It's like a weird thing where he's trying to be like, so the first sentence is I'm different. We're different, obviously.

Yeah. And then the second one is just he's just trying to like lightly sun him. Just a light finger wag to try to be like, you got a lot of work to do, man. I'm still the boss. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see how people like you over here because I think they're going to be mad at you.

Yeah. You fucked up big time, pal. By doing what? Winning. Winning. That was fucked up the way he won. Stop just bringing up stuff about how, like, the Democratic Party could be doing more. It's like, fuck.

That's like that you're talking about me, dude. That's fucked up. Not cool, man. Now, James Cavill, he is losing his gator ass eating mind right now at the idea of these extremists gaining more ground to Democratic Party. I'm calling for a great schism. A schism. Jism. Jizzle.

This is what I'm calling about. This whole paragraph that you've just said is very heavily influenced by that Australian T-shirt that we keep talking about. No, no, no. You've talked about gizum. I do have to bring it up again. It's an alligator. Or a crockle now. If it's in Australia, it's going to be crock and out.

It's a crock. Yeah. It's saying, I'm on me rag mate, chucking it in me, dump her. I'm on my period. Yeah, thank you for it. Yeah. So I don't know.

I don't know if these people speak Australian miles. I'm just saying, look, yes, it might seem like I'm stuck on this t-shirt. But I'm saying at an unconscious level, so are you. because you said he's not just a gator eating. He's got a gator ass eating. And you say, and you mispronounce schism as jism. All right. You're right. You're right. You're thinking it's on, it's on all our minds.

And I in real time am not familiar with that shirt or that phrase, but it doesn't take more than the delay that internet lag already has for you to go, on me rag. Okay. Period. Chuck in. Me, dumper. Oh, I see what he's trying to.

communicate to a fellow human being. They have a way with words. That's not what this story is about. It's about James Carvel. It's about James Carvel right now. And he went on the Politicon podcast, and he's talking about this is what he first is. His first thing, I think he's treating the Democrat,

like the DSA candidates and like the sort of rise of these progressives to the left of the Democrats. as sort of like gray scale or some shit from Game of Thrones. Like, it's on the finger now. But then it's going to creep up your whole body. And then you're going to turn into stone. So we got to cut the arm off now. That's what we got to do.

That's why he's proposing. It's YouTube, though. So we got to sit through this He-Man ad. We got some skeletons. Yeah, yeah. It looks like. Just ignore it that. It does look like skeletors about to address the...

We must create a schizzen. Yeah, we need a schizm. Why are you wearing that, Lou? New Orleans Mardi Gras. He's wearing a Mardi Gras sweatshirt right now, too. Look, he's on brand always with an open suitcase just right behind him

wherever he's at. I love how he's a media professional. Anyway, here's James Carville proposing a great schism. I actually do think it's time for Democrats to talk the S word, schism. I really do.

Everybody's always said, no, no, we're coalition, We're a big tent. And there's just some shit that I can't be in the same tent. What? Social. And we talk about what Madami was three for three last night in Manhattan. Madami.

They call it the Kami Corridor. First of all, if I go back to that. Genocide fits in the tent. He's just so, it's just so out to none of these, all these people will never say his name correctly. Just like, Cuomo, Cuomo, Mababi. Well, Lee, Cronin's mom, darn. And now he got this one, Madabi, well, Joseph Mogabi,

I don't know who is Charles Mogabe, whatever he is. Anyway, because he does disrespect his name. And then, like we just heard, sorry, let James,

just you go on. I mean, was three for three last night in Manhattan. They call it a comic corridor. Do they? They don't. They never have, in fact,

it's usually had a mayor who is Republican, actually. From my adult life, it's had Republican mayors. It seems to be a place where one very talented candidate has been able to communicate to people what socialism is in a way that you can't get in front of. But however, the Manhattanites famously do call their dumpers the commie corridor. Hey, I'm chucking here.

Hey, hey, you're chucking it in me, dump. Chuck you back there. Chuck it is just such a fun. Yeah, it's like I'm going to throw a bang into you. And you're like, don't say it like that. Chuck, it hit me, Delford. Oh, fuck. All right, sorry.

We're talking about serious political. Sure. Okay, he goes on. We'll get a little bit more because he does say he has to come back to this whole idea of like, there's just some of the things they're talking about it. They're not full of the Democratic Party. In fact, they don't wish the Democratic Party will, which you're like, yeah. I mean, but for reasons because the party as constituted is woefully incapable to govern in this era of end-stage capitalism.

So, yeah, in that sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We need a new fighter in the ring. Someone who actually understands what's going on and also can understand what the will of people are and create something that maybe is a little more potent than merely going. We can gesture things like equality but not really follow through on policy like that. They call it the Kami corridor. They got to call it. I don't know if you've been to the Upper West Side.

They call that the Common Corridor. Really? Oh, yeah, all up and down there. Yeah. Crazy, crazy. So then. So the Socialist Slant. You'll slide.

You'll see. You'll see. Oh, man. It's all Palestinians. There are no Jewish people in all New York. So it's just impossible for us to win there. I was by a Marxism Square Garden for the next game. It's crazy.

It's crazy. So yes, here he goes on again about how he just, he's like, I can't stand this shit. He's so angry about it. He's really losing his mind. Yeah. This seems like he's angrier than he was when Trump won. Yeah, truly, because I think he realizes, look, I think it's like, it's a, it's a dinosaur being like, hey, what's that big rock coming down from the sky? I think the defenders of the status quo, the base tenets of reality as it stands, as it undergoes change, that supersedes party.

They're like, I would prefer reality to stay now it is, please. He kind of changes his tune up a little bit later in this interview where he's sort of like, we got to talk about a schism. Like he's almost dealing with like a hostage situation where he's like, hey man, and maybe we can make this work for everybody. Like again, so here's his, he tries to be like maybe don't use the word Democrat for Democrat. I don't know. These aren't really solutions.

This is again a senile old man who's scared of the future. Tommy is the leader of it is, you know, you try to insist that the people that run into your banner run as a Democratic Socialist and don't use the Democratic Party as your guideline and let's negotiate the terms of a schism here. Maybe we can negotiate the terms of a schism. But I'm done. I'm not in that fucking political party. I am totally comfortable in a political party that's going to throw his hat down like an angry prospect.

He was. He took it off. Michael is not joking. For those listening, he took his baseball cap off. His instinct was to take it off, stomp on it, and then start shooting his guns down at the ground until he starts floating up off the ground. Or like the first white manager who like Jackie Robinson hit a home run off their team. He's like, golly, God, why they let this filth in the lead?

I don't understand this. They've thrown them meatballs out. 10. You call that a fast mall? It's good eating. But that is what, yeah, he just assumes that they're going easy on him. Yeah, is how he would be reacting

to Jackie Robinson. So he goes on, now this is where he reveals that what he really sees because I don't, he's not, he's not unfortunately unforced. He's not dumb enough to be like the things they want are crazy like

universal health care or like I don't mention any of the actual. But this is where his neo-lib Democrat brain leaks the truth out. And here he goes because he says, I'm fine with certain aspects. But this is the part that's real instructive. I am totally comfortable in a political party that spends time questioning the policies of the government of Israel. In fact, I'm enthusiastic about that. I don't want to be in a political party that denies the right of the state of Israel to exist.

That's just not. I just can't do that. I'm sorry. Who is he, who is interviewing by the way? Sorry, we just got, all right, this is all too visual, but I, I will just, okay, I will just say. Okay. So, me, dump her. So, it's my blood.

The crocodile is saying, chuck it. So the chucking it is really the, no, for, to see what is evidently the future of your party, like the energy, the, bridled energy that is happening and to say, okay, we need to immediately go to work. Negotiating the terms of a schism is so... We could cover more ground if we split up. Like, what's insane to me is watching, everything about politics and many processes just accelerates to a point of hyperbolic grotesquery of itself, right? So the Democratic Party has gone from we cannot win a thing too.

Oh no, we're winning. Yeah. How do we make sure we don't win like this? How can we undermine this? Hey man, vote blue no matter who. I mean, well, that's right. That ain't blue. Get your eyes tested.

That's green or some shit. I don't know what the fuck that is. That ain't a no fucking party I'm a part of. Yeah, that guy he's, the person who's hosting, a guy named Al Hunt. Um, and Al Hunt, you know, he's like,

like fucking a Bloomberg guy, you know, this isn't, this is, you know, he's, ultimately everybody's, ultimately that was a conversation between Al,

83 year old Al Hunt and 81 year old James Carville about the future of the fucking, bro, shut the fuck up. You got to the end of the buffet line. Now, take your ass to the table and go. It must be the kids who are wrong.

It has to be. 100% must be. But yeah. So again, genocide, like you were saying, Michael, the tent has to include the killing of Palestinian people, okay? Because I'm going to conflate the genocide with a much more tenuous argument about the right of a state to exist, rather than contending with the genocide of it all. He wants people to be able to question the direction of the Israeli,

or just not able to do anything about it in any way whatsoever. You can ask questions, but people have been asking questions for decades. And they continue to do whatever the fuck they wanted to. The thing with questions is an answer might emerge and then you don't want to act on anything like that. So let's not. So other progressives, you know, obviously are not so cynical. The executive director for Data for Progress, Ryan O'Connell said, quote, New York City Democratic primaries are a specific thing, and that New York DSA has an incredibly strong ground game.

Zoran is an incredibly popular politician, and it's a very blue area. But I think there's also a lot of things that can be extrapolated nationwide, which we know that to be true. Because at the end of the day, he's not being like, oh, you got to walk like this, so wear a Yankee hat. Only things you do. Like, it's like, you're talking about shit that affects working people. Okay. So I get the context of it. But again, the platform has wild appeal.

uh, wide appeal. He goes on. He cites, he cites the own data or polls that data for progress is done that quote, found voters who see voters see candidates who don't stand up to the American Israel Public Affairs Committee or A PAC as untrustworthy on other issues and that Democratic socialist policies like momdani's have nationwide appeal. Quote, when you see victories as large as these and when you grow your numbers in Congress, it tends to change parts of the party more broadly. And that's why you're seeing the old, you know, desiccated husk of, uh, human being and, uh, James Carville being like, I don't want anything to do with this shit. That wave looks dangerous.

Give me away from that wave. Give me that way. What's that a surfboard? No. Let me get in a coffin. That's what I want. So yeah, it's just like, it really is mind blowing now that it's that, that like, like to your point, Michael, the, the Democrats hate winning thing.

You're just purely now just saying outright, no, I don't, we, we can't win. we're not gonna win not like not with this and for winning you have a lot of explaining to do you got yeah you're gonna have to have some very difficult conversations with the losers of our party with all this winning bullshit that you're uh springing on us last minute excuse me uh that congressman you ousted he has kids okay how old are they uh 48 and 52

okay you know what they work in coal and you are coming for that too. Where are this set of his kids supposed to get black lungs? Yeah. What are they going to pivot to if we go all renewables and shit like that? What are they going to pivot to? His son just graduated from Columbia and opened a $30 million round of fundraising for his company. Do you have any idea how low that is?

Yeah. It's a new AI, it's a new AI chat about that can accurately identify a child military target in less than three seconds. No mess up this time. It will accurately know. And he just raised a lot of money for that. We got to support the young man. Is there any way that Zoram runs for president?

It's like too soon. I'm sure everybody would say. That's one to skip a few, 99, 100 for sure. I'm ready. I'm ready to skip a few. Well, yeah. If it's a revolution time, sometimes you get

surprises. Yeah, yeah, you just got to fucking. And I do think it's bring him to the front. Whether we ask, I mean, It's definitely global violence, but of course I'm still feeling privileged and insulated my life chugs along only with random tragedies, striking people who are like friends of friend or whatever. But it feels like regardless, we're in an intellectual civil war already. And like, it's interesting to watch in my social media circles at least.

People who I think both are of good faith, like, oh, no, you really mean that you didn't come to troll or try to, who are like, you have to vote blue no matter. People really being like vote blue no matter who because, of course, the stuff that breaks their heart, concentration camps, ice and stuff. And then people are like, so you don't care what's happening about. It's like, and of course, I laugh and I'm like, you got to expand your mind enough to hold both at once. But I believe all those people are urgently saying that and they mean it. And they're like, yeah. It's like people are, it's like it makes me think of those letters that are like the Civil War to our brother for brother. And it's, we're actually seeing people are like, look, normally we'd agree, but not that, man.

And it's for James Carville, his line is some stupid bullshit, but everyone is finding out where they stand as the schism comes on. No, there are definitely mainstream Democrats who, like people who just vote and are vote blue no matter who people who are mad and are like, well, you guys are just divisive. And I think we're testing the idea that there might be a larger, a large enough chunk of society now that. that would prefer to move past a sports-themed political system. Like, are you red or you're blue? You're that for life. I'm actually in dire need. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let's maybe discuss it in a more detailed way than that. Yeah, if possible. So I'm reaching out. I have, you know, I've been using chat GPT and Claude to reach out to everybody who says the vote blue no matter who thing. And we're just negotiating terms of a schism. Okay, good. We're getting pizza Senate. Yeah.

We're just going to negotiate. Get that Pentagon pizza track with. But I know people, like I have acquaintances who work for well-known Democrats who have done so for a long time and are not progressive, even though like we're in the same age cohort and they've seen the same things and roughly arrive to the same conclusions. And I see for some of those people, too, there's like a rigidity because they felt justified in like, hitching their wagon

to this capital D Democratic Party that there's like a weird loyalty that they're, it's like some people, I can see it kind of chipping away where it's like, yeah, they know it's not working.

And other people are just sort of, I think, doubling down to be like, this is just like a blip. It's only going to work in these places because it's really existential for them to be like. But don't have loyalty to brands, people.

Like the second, it doesn't matter how long you've been an Apple person. If you don't like iPhone, anymore. Switch immediately to something else. If that shit looks cool to you?

Right. Or it's fucking like, I mean, it's a bit of a hassle, but I'm glad I'm, I'm divesting from certain companies I want to. Like Gmail I've had my entire life. I think Google is completely evil at this point.

So I'm moving to Proton mail. I'm doing, you know, there's like, you don't have to do stuff just because you're like used to it. Right. It's very, very key.

Yeah, well, I'm going to double down. I'm going to double down on. I actually like that Apple product. cost $500 more today than they did a week ago. That's actually good. Dude, at least Tim Cooks be honest. Oh, yeah.

I'm erratically. Let's do it to meat. Yeah. And I like meat. It's delicious. I need society to properly value the cost of things so that I can be, so my appetites can be curved appropriately. All right.

All right. All right. That's enough of that. We're going to take a quick break. We're going to come back and talk about that. Australian T-shirt. We'll be right there. Knock it off before I chuck it in my dumper.

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supposed to be here already. Yeah. Yeah, was delayed. But this, uh, you know, duty calls,

Jack, will you answer? Grandtiff dot oh. Wait, that's not right. See, he won't know. Marles.

Go with it. Miles. He won't know. I can't be hit. Anyways, it is, this game is expected to make $1 billion on

pre-orders alone. This is for a digital version of the game that. Can't sell out. Yeah. A game that can't sell out because it's digital. So it's just people being like, it's like peace of mind. One billion dollars worth of peace of mind. As the ride-along lifelong game addict, I have to point out,

I think pre-ordering gets you digital stuff in the game you can't otherwise get. So there is a however tangible you consider video games. There is a tangible reason. It's not to play it early. It's to get like a special jacket and a special car or whatever. I got access to this car. or this one. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Is James Carville playing this game? Yeah, that's what I do, basically. I got access to this call. I got access to this thing. Look like a Sabotruck. One thing, and this is, I think, just how we exist. Our reality now is anytime there's a thing like this that lots of people like,

there will be massive scams. This is happening with World Cup tickets. This happens for everything. Taylor Swift tickets, anything. Yeah, that's hyped in demand, somewhat scarce or exclusive. It's almost like we all grew up playing Grand Theft Auto 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5. And we're like, you know what? Fuck the social contract.

I'm going to scam everyone. Just like in GTA 5, how you could manipulate the stock market. It's like making the most profitable movie franchise, pirate, this movie, pirate, pirates are great. Yeah, right, right, right. But they are, yeah, so fans of the game that lets you pretend to commit crimes are becoming the Oh, there you go. Sorry. Specifically, a ton of fake websites trying to scam people with fake sales where they promise you

things that are like a little too good to be true. Yeah, like fucking beta access. Like, yeah. They're like, you can get in there now. Oh, you want to, it seems like you're interested in this game. Do you want to like get in there and start like playing right now? What's that worth to you, dude? I think there was one person, right?

Someone who with like a terminal illness got to play like an early version of it. Scam. There was a make-a-way. Yeah, Jamaica wish person asked. Yeah, yeah, there was someone where they were like... Ruckster came out with a build and let him mess with that. Yeah, yeah. They're like, there you go.

Yeah, but anything like on a website is like, hey, man, for like, like, for 180 bucks, dude, you play the bait and get the fuck out of here. Yeah. It's funny because... Pidge says, we need you to help us build Vice City. And it has a picture of Uncle Sam next to it. No, it doesn't. I love the one. So it seems like if someone asked me, well, are you dying?

You could play it if you're dying. Yeah. That would be read like a... scam, but that was the real one. Right. Right. Right. Yeah. It's, I mean, the other thing, too, it's so crazy is like, we grew up on physical media and like, for the people that are buying a day of, they're like, oh, is there a disc in there? Like, nah, no, no, no. There's a download code for the digital version of the game.

And like, well, when, we can get the fucking disc because they already have a problem with digital media and like games just going completely inert on us because the lack of like having a physical copy of it. But hey, well, we'll see. We'll see if that'll just be a lifelong gamer. It's poignant to me. Their ultimate edition sets like a new high watermark for a game price. And it's exactly the number that in all classic JRPs are most notably like Final Fantasy

7 and stuff, it's the most damage you could possibly, the system could process. 9, 9, 9. Yeah, yeah. How much does this cost? Quad-9. Just give me all of whatever you have, all your credits. Yeah. Because we, like, so each game has, like, one through five, have they all been a leap where everyone's like, this is actually, like, meeting expectations? It kind of feels like that. It kind of feels like things, like, almost like the Toy Story franchise, like, where people

really liked each subsequent sequel quite a bit. And so this one is just going to demolish everything. Like, are you guys feeling like this is actually going to be as good as everybody would think it to be? Much like Half-Life, I would say, from Valve. GTA, yeah, has become sort of a state of the industry statement on sandbox games, which behind first-person shooters like Call of Duty are the most popular. Actually, now with the new generation, Minecraft and survival building is the new hotness. But, like, there's still tons of money to be made out of sandbox. The game where you're dropped into a city and it works like a real city.

You can do anything. and get in and out of a car, ship, whatever. And it just, rock star is sort of on the hook, I think, in gamers' minds, to present every time

one that is a full generational leap ahead. Like, we don't want two in one generation, usually. We want the next thing. And that's what it claims to be. It always costs the moon. I've heard some buzz in gaming journalism corners that they're like,

this will never happen again. Like, this human endeavor is too. Right. Too intense. Monumental. They're already talking internally about like,

what is the future of Rockstar? Because we don't want to have to keep going. Now we've got to top that. Right. Yeah. It's like, we're actually not going to go to the moon anymore. NASA was just like,

we're not going to do that anymore. We're tired. We're so fucking tired. This is so hard. They want that again. Fuck that. I mean, because like what the,

I've seen anecdotally, like the development for GTA six between like one and two billion dollars. And like the Burr's Califa cost one and a half billion dollars. Right. It's up there with the most expensive Folly's man has ever been.

And a tiny sliver of AI. Right, right, right. Folly that we're all just a little bit. Also, dang, looking at the logo, I just realized I've avoided watching trailers, but there's no way this game doesn't start

with saying Grand Theft Auto 6 and then you zoom out in the VI says Vice City. Oh, yeah. There's absolutely no way. Actually, I bet you could bet on that on Polly Market. I don't know how interesting you are. Resident Evil Village style. Yeah, yeah.

It will also be fascinating to me just to see because in the time between five and six, we've gone from a world where South Park, Edge Lord, humor, unironically, was moving the most comedy dollar of any kind of humor. And now we are moving into an era where there's, a lot of that, but there's also the battle for, oh, don't only punch up and, you know, thoughtfully, everyone knows that over our lifetimes there's been more thoughtful humor and more thoughtful empathetic guidelines put on, like, what's the goal here?

Why are we doing this? Grand Theft Auto 5 has a thing where you like, at gunpoint, forced Ryan Seacrest to strip naked and dance in public because he's such a fucking beta cuck boy. Like that's, and that's played for like, isn't that funny, you get to do that in the game. Man, we're at a point where when they drop a new Halo remaster, there's a furor because the idea that they added pink to the skyline is like, see, they're putting bisexual messages and games and shit. Like, when this drops, the thread they're trying to, like, walk between, we have to get everyone's money. We can't alienate. So it has to be edgy enough that these people don't flip out and burn all their playstations.

caught us, but these other people don't think we're assholes. We're Nazis. I'm fascinated to see how it lives. It's getting great. Yeah. Can't wait to not play it and hear about all of your experiences. Just everyone will hate it. Oh, when it comes out, I'm going to be coming on

of these recordings, like eyes half open. Just like, I was up all night playing in dude. Yeah. Oh, dude. Yeah. I remember. We're going to do a multi-part series on one-upsmanship. When 2013, when GTA 5 came out, everybody, I used to work at Power 106 at that radio station when they came out, all of the digital team,

like the people did social, the video, all that stuff, we were all... America's productivity just dropped. Yeah, do you remember a day, all the cracked writers came in

and all we could talk about is that you can fucking go to the cracked offices, the ones that are on the Santa Monica Pier, and like, you could look and be like, that's where we write after hours. We're right there.

It was all we could talk about for a week. Wait, They had those offices there, like by the old. Like the actual building that we spotted in. They had a perfect realistic, like the number of windows was accurate. The shape was accurate. I'm like, that's the fucking crack. Wait, where were those?

Oh, that was in the, oh, you guys were on the promenade? Because they did a chunk of Santa Monica and the cracked office was right by the pier. So whatever technology they used or, you know, they have included our building. It was in there. And then you guys ended up over there like near Pennsylvania. They laid us off the next day. Yeah, yeah. They were like, well, we can simulate this.

We hope you're happy. Hey, but there's some loose graphic pillows from Society 6. By the exit, you can snag on the way out. Michael Swain, such a pleasure having you, as always, on the Daily Zikeis. Where can people find you, follow you, see, you, all that good stuff? Yeah, find all our free pods, mostly podcasts, by just searching small beans wherever you listen to podcasts, if you go to Patreon.com and seek out. small beans. You can pay six bucks a month to get twice as much, but then the real thing I want to

plug, because you guys have a big audience, and I think a lot of folks won't know this. We have recently introduced a premier tier, so we finally have a premier tier, $15 a month, gets you access to stuff that will never be on paywall that is truly FOMO bait. Like for net, like Abe and Adam, my partners are going through the Star Wars prequels and sequels. And currently I am doing a full episode by episode rewatched Battlestar Galactica and its entirety with Cody Johnston of Somemore News. And then I'm doing cracked style essay videos, like 22 minute essay videos like you used to enjoy back on cracked in the day, analyzing pop culture. Maggie Mayfish still does similar videos if you're familiar with their work,

stuff like that. So that's all behind the premier paywall if you're someone with fungible income and you want to feed my baby. But six bucks is the base like, hey, let's all just support artists and get a bunch of free podcasts. There you go. Amazing. Go do it. Go be a Bean King. King Bean?

Hear more Christy. Yeah. Hear more Christy Yamaguchi, man. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? I'm going for the rare double plug, which I rarely do. Sorry. But another underrated thing of mine that I'm putting a lot of effort into is my parenting blog. Love you be good more later.

You can subscribe to that by going to swamstack.substack.com. It is jokes. It will make you laugh and has poignant wisdoms about stuff I learn. And it's in the form of letters to my son, assuming he will one day read them or throw them away or whatever, but they're to him. Aw. He'll have chat GPT read it to them.

Am I right? Kids these days, am I? Miles where can people find you? Is there work media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me everywhere at Miles of Grady. Gray 90-day fiancé talk is happening on 420-day fiance with me and Sophia Alexandra and talking about footy, you know, world footy, English footy, old of foot you might on ain't it footy with Jamel Johnson and Chris Martin. I work in media like he's from at Tyler Huckabee.bby.b.eskye.combe.combe.combe.com socialist. My mayor socialist. My city councilwoman socialist. My state senator socialist. My assembly member socialist, Nixon five. My bagel subpar.

I live in the bay. Amazing. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien, Blue Sky, Jack O.B., the number one Instagram, Jack underscore O underscore Brian. Let's see. Matt Stuller just wrote,

Mark Zuckerberg, burns $100 billion a year on dork glasses and failed AI models. I don't ever want to hear about wasting government again until you acknowledge corporate America is far, far more wasteful, which is, I think, an interesting, an addition to how we talk about things that I'm hoping people are starting to include. That this is, we need to look at it as this is not a good way to run a civilization.

It's a wasteful way that they just get away with because they're like, well, it's got to be profitable eventually for them. If the critique, look at it, it's obviously stupid. Worked, it would have worked. This is stupid. I think it's getting. getting more obviously stupid. Yeah, yeah, hopefully.

Go algae. And at Towns USA, a tweet of World Cup announcer just said, the English have struggled historically here in Massachusetts. Oh, which is pretty good luck. They're going to have a lot of conversations with many Bostonians about it moving forward. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zekeist on Instagram. We have a, you can go to this episode, wherever you're listening to it,

and there at the bottom you will find the foot. knows, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think that people might enjoy? Yeah, this one is from the artist Tamai, T-A-M-A-E, really dope, like producer, DJ, just kind of, yeah, just kind of multi-hyphen it. This track is actually a remix of a song called Drive-Thru, and it's the E-C-C-E-Chi-Thru, and it's the E-K-K-A-K-A-N-Y.

It's just got, again, it's real smooth, it's nice and chill, definitely like it's hot and you want a little something to get your toe-tapping. This is it, Tamay with Drive-Thru, the E-K-T-E-K-R-T-Raehury with Drive-Thoughthru the E-K-E-K-ROTE. All right, we'll link off to that in the footnotes.

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