The Daily Zeitgeist - Dumb American Gothic, Disney’s Third Degree Racism 7.1.20

Episode Date: July 1, 2020

In episode 663, Jack and Scam Goddess Laci Mosley are joined by comedian Billy Wayne Davis to discuss the murder of Elijah McClain by the Colorado police, Trump sharing videos of armed white couple confronting protestors, two Trump tell-all books coming out, Disneyland changing Splash Mountain, and more!FOOTNOTES: Colorado Police Investigate Officers Over Photos Taken Near Elijah McClain Site Colorado officers probed over photos of them at Elijah McClain memorial Trump Shares Video of Armed White Couple Confronting Protesters In the Race for Trump Tell-Alls, Simon & Schuster Is Leading DISNEYLAND DELAYED AND SPLASH MOUNTAIN MAKES SOME BIG CHANGES Grown Local Podcast WATCH: Haim - 3am (Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, what's up, y'all? It's Lacey Mosley, a.k.a. Scamming in the morning, scamming in the evening, scam stuff all the time. When robbery's on a bagel, you can have robbery anytime. That makes sense. Wow. When rye bread's on a bagel, you can have robbery. Robbery. Robbery.

Got it. On a metaphorical bagel. Got it. Okay. Got it. That's metaphorical bagel. Got it. Okay. Got it. That's the pizza rolls theme song. For all you pizza roll heads out there who love that commercial so much. That's a bagel bites theme song.

Right. Yeah. That makes more sense. Oh, yeah, it is. Because I just said bagel, pizza's on a bagel, right? When pizza's on a bagel, you can have pizza anytime. All that shit burns your mouth, bro. Yeah, it's the fourth law of thermodynamics, though.

When pizza's on a bagel, you can have pizza anytime. Yeah, that's just like the food you gave to unruly boys to get them to shut up while you had your afternoon wine as a mom. Yeah, that I gave to unruly boys. Not that was crammed into my mouth by my wife. Lacey, who was that voice? There was a voice that joined us. Oh, it's such an iconic voice. I mean, Mount Zeitmore.

Mount Zeitmore. We got half of Mount Zeitmore up here on this podcast. He is the hilarious, the talented, Mr. Billy Wayne Davis! Hey, you guys. I couldn't, I'm sorry, I couldn't stay quiet. I was like, that's not pizza rolls. That is... Hey, you were doing...

Are you going to correct me? Yeah. You were doing what all of our listeners were going to do otherwise. Yeah, I was protecting you from the internet is what i was doing scores of people who be in my mentions and dms like hey i know you're dealing with a lot right now but i just wanted to let you know you completely fucked uh the bagels a lot of misplaced anger right now that i'm trying to absorb yeah fuck fuck pizza rolls i mean we can all agree on that that shit does burn your mouth real

bad that's like it's like almost like it was designed to destroy your taste buds it's like hot captain crunch it's like you know we all know captain crunch just tears shreds your roof and then i feel like they do the same thing like you've never you can never eat it at room temp it's like a hot pocket you're always like yeah yeah it's not edible at room temperature oh isn't that the pizza sauce congeals i it's the preservatives they put in that it is the only way it is edible is if it also hurts you i wonder if there is an ideal way to make like if you put pizza uh rolls in like a deep fryer or something or maybe not deep fry i'm sure those would be delicious but like in an air fryer or something that like you gourmands out there you let us know what is the way to uh prepare

a pizza roll that doesn't make it... It seems like it is always inherently at three different temperatures that are designed to just destroy the inside of your face. I think if you put a pizza roll in a deep fryer, a county fair just happens around you. That's where my southern brain went. I was like, we fry Coca-Cola, ice cream, bubble gum. And it's all good.

I hate to report. The first time I had a fried Twinkie, I was like, man, look at this. What a stupid. Everyone's fat. This is the best thing I've ever had in my whole life. What is deep fried Coca-Cola? Is it just basically the fried outsides with a Coca-Cola flavor? What is it?

You got it. You got it on the head pretty much. I think they freeze the Coke and then they fry it. And then when you bite into it, you're just getting Coca-Cola flavor and fried. It's the same rednecks that work at NASA are putting this stuff together. Those NASA rednecks. Shout out to them. Billy Wayne, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment.

First, we're going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about the Elijah McClain story. Just the worst. So sad. Every time you look at even a video of him, it's hard not to cry. And yet, I feel like it needs to be told over and over again. It's getting even more infuriating. So we're going to talk about that.

We are going to talk about the new Trump books that are coming out, not by him. We aren't getting a sequel to The Art of the Deal, unfortunately. We're going to talk about the video he shared of the McCloskeys in St. Louis. Just that couple, that image of them standing on their lawn with their guns is just, I mean, it is our new American Gothic. It's the greatest. We're going to talk about Splash Mountain. We talked

last week or a couple weeks ago about how they were getting or doing a complete overhaul of it to remove the Song of the South from the themes surrounding that ride, which I didn't even know was the theme of that ride.

But now they're redesigning it around the princess and the frog. So we're going to talk about the movie, the princess and the frog, uh, all of that, plenty more. But first, Billy Wayne,

we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, here's a, I had to look up some Pokemon stuff. Uh, some Pokemon stuff. Yeah. That's, I i mean that's as much as i can because my

son's really into it okay and into pokemon yeah like is that like did you make him into it is that still on tv i thought ash ketchum and them are they on syndicate i mean there's he was watching one the other night that was from like 1999 so there's always new ones it's the racket's pretty impressive what they do and it's cool it's just like little animals they make up and it's just right for kids imagination and adults i mean it's a really smart racket, but it's all nonsense too. So I can't follow a lot of it. And it's all based around, based loosely around like,

let's make a children's show around, uh, the idea of like dog and cock fighting essentially is like the overall theme of, I didn't want to. Yeah, you're exactly right. Is it's making these little things that you have in your pocket fight your little pets. Right, yeah.

Which you're not supposed to do. I've done it a couple times with my rest in peace Finney, but he was a prize fighting King Charles Cavalier. His special move was when he would get into a fight, he would immediately roll over, even if the other animal was a squirrel, he would roll over. So that was my fighting dogs.

So he was just a loser? Yeah. He was just like a basketball player who tries to get the charge? That's right. He took the charge that's right he took the charge my leg was near you he wasn't even taking the like his feet were moving he wasn't even taking the charge like a tough guy he was like moving back where he was like that's a block dude you're just kind of getting in people's way yeah yeah exactly he was like just make it

quick uh was his overall strategy on any confrontation. Just kill me quickly. Which is... Here's the softest part. That's not a dumb fighting strategy. It'd be like if someone comes at you, you just vomit immediately.

That's right. That's why we as a species shit ourselves and throw up on ourselves is to make ourselves taste bad for when we're being eaten. That's why we as a species shit ourselves and throw up on ourselves is to make ourselves taste bad for when we're being eaten. That's wise. Also, there's something very fun about getting to a fight and just immediately getting on the ground yourself. I'm like giving the other person no satisfaction. I want to see that happen slowly.

Like the fight starts. You like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, we don't fight. We don't yeah. No, no, we're going to fight. We're going to fight. Look, I'm just getting started for you. I'm going to kick it off. I'm going to get the water boiling.

I'm going to be down here on the ground. I'm not going to lie to you guys. That was kind of my strategy when I was growing up. I really loved the Rocky movies, but I more identified with the early rounds when he was getting the shit kicked out of him. I got beat up a lot when I was a kid, and I was really good at it. I would make it look dramatic. When the bully kicked me in the chest, I would fly backwards.

That may be why they kept picking on you, because they're like, this looks awesome when we go after Jack. He really sells it. That makes us look strong. I remember one time in college, a defensive lineman wanted to fight me at a bar, and I just whispered in his ear, you can tell everyone you destroyed me tomorrow,

but I'm going to leave. And it confused him so much that I wasn't trying to bow up to him, because I was like, well, immediately you're going to win. Just, I can't beat you. Right. Right. Yeah. He looked so confused.

He's like, just get the fuck out of here. I was like, all right. And the girl I was with, she was like, what'd you say to him? I was like, I deeply confused him

is what I did. Let's go. See, I told him what was going to happen and he immediately decided he didn't want any of that. That is exactly. That's not a lot i um i'm kind of the opposite like i'm short so i don't know if that just always made me like have like a little napoleonic complex or something but like i wanted people to believe that i could fight and i've never been in a physical altercation in my life unless it was like playing with my cousins so like i

remember this one girl was like harassing me in college and like it was really really bad she was like mad i like stole a boyfriend long story short anyway um this is like we're children i was like 20 no yeah i was 19 i think and um she just kept harassing me and so i like this sounds insane oh my god i can't believe I'm saying this on podcast. I was like, no, fuck it. I'm going to show up to her house. Cause this is college. We all live like on the block. I'm going to show up to this bitch's house.

So she can know that if she keeps fucking with me, I'm going to put these hands on her. And like, I could convince people that I'm an actor. I could convince people I could fight. But like, I never had to fight nobody. And one of my friends was like, you know what you should do you should put vaseline on your face and i was like yeah yeah so you showed up with vaseline on your face yeah like you had a cut man in your corner

that's amazing um yeah i just mine was not really a strategy. Mine was just, I had no control over my emotions. I was a very sensitive little boy. Billy Wayne, what is something that you think is underrated? Unity. Unity, okay. Yes. I think we got numbers. Okay.

Yeah. Here we go, Billy. Which numbers? got numbers okay yeah we're going billy which numbers i think as poor people we have numbers if we would quit letting them divide us yeah i think that's the real that's what that's the war where we're actually fighting here yeah i mean and i think we've seen more of it in the in the protests uh you know we're seeing a more diverse coalition uh especially in the younger generations uh i'm not saying these other problems don't exist right but i think if we move forward and we take care of this poor versus rich thing the other problems will be easier to deal with if we're all taken care of on a base level right yeah it's just hard to get us back to

that i think uh jack and i were talking about that the other day of just how well for a second it felt like we were going to get like poor people from across the aisle to be like oh this is a scam like everything's fucked and then the whole mask thing started to happen and then it just drew a line in the sand again of like people just being willfully ignorant but also realizing that they're not necessarily just being ignorant they're railing against like they just want some control over something in their lives but i don't know how we get them back because they're acting crazy well it's yeah i if you really listen to all sides they're saying a lot of the same things with these tiny little and not tiny sometimes but huge problems but the fundamentals are usually the same or like like you said we don't feel in

control of our lives anymore and no one's helping us and it's like every everyone that's got it's the same thing they're saying and we're like oh we gotta like you said i don't know what they did to to move that thing again but we were very close we've been a very close a couple times yeah and i think we just need to keep saying it too because that's what the media does is so so good at just immediately taking things and putting it back in the terms that we all understand of uh you know where they understand of division yeah and of it not being a you know america being you know we were talking about how a lot of the face mask stuff uh goes back to the founding of the country and the founding fathers being petulant about like no taxation on the wars that you're paying for for us uh and you know i i also think the idea that there's no class uh no class system in america is like our most deeply held uh bullshit myth yes yeah it's the same everybody can

just come on up it's the same as okay i was having this conversation with Robert Evans the other day. I'm reading this book about the SAS, the British fighting force, and it's written by two British guys. And the way that Great Britain talks about what they were doing militarily, they were very open about all the things they were doing. We've never been open about that, about our empire building and stuff. It's always like, we're going to go make things better and do it. I'm like, nah, we're going to get that oil. And Britain was like, yo, we're just going to try to control that island because we want it.

Right. It's it doesn't fuck with the British people as hard as it does with our people, because we've been lying to our soldiers and our poor people about why we're doing all this stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Like colonizer was a term that black people kind of took back and weaponized because we're like, yeah, you stole everything. And then you continue to lie about it. you're great robbers you stole people you tricked people manifest destiny is the biggest scam phrase i've ever heard in my entire fucking life and i love it because i'm like can i manifest destiny today like i just want to show up at somebody's house and be like hey manifest destiny run me them keys this is my house now god told me right so it's but until we stop rebranding every fucked thing that we've done, that's led to the systems that we're in right now, we're never going to be able to get those people. And that's exactly what, you know, the government knows and relies on.

That's why when the statues fall, it's important for them to make a big deal of it because they have to be able to tell all these folks that they've lied to that. Look at all these black and brown people who are destroying your history when it's like the to the victor when the spoils and they just lied about everything yeah and i mean you in the uk we knew that they were colonizers not to say they're better off than we are i mean they are in some ways but i don't know i don't know how you stop you wake up and just get everybody to realize they're not confused in great britain about who they are and where their place is in the system that's what's that's what is confusing in america that comes with all this division is because no one knows their true place because it's all lied to and it's all sand underneath everyone except for a very select few yeah and i don't think that our system i mean i i do definitely believe

that our system was designed to hold black and brown people down but i don't think it was designed to keep everyone poor the way it is now i think that's been hijacked in this century or the last century yeah i think there's something to the... Because there's, you know, like with Great Britain, the system is lying to them, but everybody knows it's lying to them. But in America, we've been taught to lie to ourselves. And I think there's something about that dissonance

that is really unhealthy. There's a study that came out late last year that was all about how poor, non-college-educated white people are seeing a decline in their average life expectancy. And it's like the first demographic cohort to go in the opposite direction in a century. And I think there's something to this media complex that Fox News and just the modern conservative Republican movement has built up that just isn't healthy.

It's not a sustainable way to exist where you kind of, you know, hate yourself. Like they're not stupid. Like that's the that's the lie at the center of it. It's just they're being lied to and they're lying to themselves. And that's really dangerous. I want to bring it back to, you know, A Bug's Life, as we always do. The Ur text, A Bug's Life, because they talk about how, like, the grasshoppers are holding everyone down until the ants realize that a lot of ants united can really fuck the grasshoppers up. Yep. Watch A Bug's Life. It's our greatest Marxist text.

What is something, Billy Wayne, that you think is overrated? Overrated? I think the value of investment is overrated at this point. The value of investment. Explain what you mean. think somewhere along the line uh you know there's like invest in your future and that's how and that's how we're all taught to build wealth and money now is it is through investment and not through actual hard work i mean they'll tell you like hard works how you make money and stuff but then if you examine it you're like no how you make money is to have money already. That's the only way to make money. Yeah. So I think that whole thing,

that that's an overrated system because you're just, no one's working anymore and then there's no product. So we're all grifters. Absolutely. That's a 100%, like a huge underlying problem.

I've talked before about how a lot of the smartest people I grew up with or went to college with went into just managing other people's investments in a spreadsheet and then carving off a small percentage of those investments to make their own money. And then now they're investing that money. And that's, that's the work that's being done with our smartest Brit, like our brain power as a country, uh, is that,

and like, you know, it under the new deal under earlier in the 20th century, like when you also just described apps, by the way, right? Yeah. Apps yeah apps exactly just the same thing but funneling our time like finding a way to waste people's time just a little bit of everybody's money that uses it just a little bit that's the same carve it off um yeah i think

what always keeps me frustrated about that too is that i've seen over this pandemic and I've contributed to so many GoFundMe, so many bailout funds, so much crowdfunding when the government should be doing these things. And instead we have to keep passing the same 50 bucks to everybody. Like to me that we have set up this, this whole system where it's like, you take money out of my check involuntarily and if i don't give you the money that i gotta guess and be like i guess is how much i owe you and if i guess wrong i could possibly go to jail you know it's like it's such a gaslighting process and then after all that you can't get your government to help you if you need

them you got to get on facebook and tell a damn sob story you know what i mean and then even now there's so many of them that you know that they start to drown each other out and it's like why are we paying for this stuff when our government should right like why are we paying taxes so that because the rich people are taking all that money all of it they're not taking that that money we're putting in they're like we'll take that and we'll also use it to build stadiums and shit like that right and we don't realize proportionally how much of it they're just straight up stealing and so it seems like oh 150 million dollars can sound like a lot going to an underprivileged area in la until you've reaped a billion dollars and that's a drop in the bucket and it's like but that's what's happening and we elect politicians and then they get comfortable and they start robbing us too so who is there really helping us

and power corrupts so it's like how do you how do you fix this and like i don't know i just don't have as much effigy or confidence in the government i don't think i ever have because i'm black so i always knew this shit was fucked but but now i'm like i don't know how we get all the poor people to realize like we're almost at the point we're past the point honestly where it's like maria and twitter like we should all be storming the bestie like it should i i kind of miss those olden times when if your leader was fucking you y'all just showed up with the pitchforks lit you know what i mean angry mob style well i mean we're trying to do that now and i think that's the path that we're we're about to take like the the cool thing about what you're talking about is

like the path there is a blueprint to all the workers combining in the government helping us out we did that in in the new deal in the ccc build a lot of communities so there is a blueprint of how to do it we just also involve non-white people this time right right that's all we have systematically yes we have a system we just involve fucking everybody this time yeah yeah the blueprint is there we know it works other countries are pulling it off we know it works. Other countries are pulling it off. We know it works. We're recording this at a time when the Kentucky Democratic primary senator results are finally rolling in. speaking about what we're talking about charles booker is you know he was with 95 had a hundred thousand more votes and then all of a sudden the new york times is like and he lost uh yeah he lost so uh i don't know cash rules everything around me and voter suppression they like there were

there's one county that had over 600 000 people mostly people of color and they had one polling place louisville that was in louisville fucking kentucky the biggest city in kentucky yeah yeah i'm truly baffled all right let's take a quick break and when we come back we'll talk about your myth mtv's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season, y'all. And we are coming along for the ride. Woo-hoo. That would be me, Devin Simone.

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chance yeah and that's that i mean that those are the facts that those are always the facts it's like yeah you have to work hard but then you also have to work smart and then you have to you have to take advantage of opportunities and recognize those opportunities like it's not just that myth of like if you are sweating at the end of the day, because that's what all those guys that are born with money think too. Because at the end of the day, they're tired too. So they work just as hard as everybody else. Yeah. Hard work is the one thing that you alone can control,

whereas intelligence, good breaks, luck, like those are things that, so I understand the focus, but then we have gone and edited all the other stuff out. Like the system that makes it like 20 times more likely for somebody in one neighborhood to succeed than somebody in another. And that, times more likely for somebody in one neighborhood to succeed than somebody in another uh and that that's the first thing that happens when somebody's uh you know success story gets written they

immediately edit out all the people who helped them along the way and it becomes the great person narrative like their personal triumph over adversity nobody believed in them when it was just haters it was just haters the whole way haters motivated them uh and it's yeah that's very powerful uh america loves that shit and it's also just completely completely untrue it's bullshit yeah and if you want if you don't think it's bullshit look at sports that was the first place it was clear to me when i played i went from high school sports to college sports being like i'm working way harder than some of these guys and it never will matter holy shit yeah just talent yeah talent love but also i wonder if people can't let go of this narrative because then their lives seem a bit more bleak. Like if you really feel you alone can't change your station in life without a credible amount of help, a good amount of luck and, you know, a lot of fortune, then it kind of becomes like, wow, the place that I was born in life financially, I can't seem to increase my station.

in life financially i can't seem to increase my station and that's supposed to be the american dream which is why i think people love billionaires so much is the poor people who they're killing because they're like yeah but if i had all that money it's like but you don't and you won't that's what we're trying to get you to realize it's like you'd have a better chance at it if we got them to pay their fair share but right now you have no chance and you're just like i don't know jacking it to the fact that maybe one day you're gonna wake up sitting on a bunch of gold coins well yeah and i i mean to add to that point i think a lot of it is psychologically we don't like a lot of people don't even want to be billionaires what they want is not to worry about if they get sick, they're going to be poor and destitute for generations because they got sick,

now their family's in debt for $200,000. I think that they just want to be able to be like, oh, I've got a good job at this factory or whatever it is, blue collar, and I make a decent wage,

I get to go to the lake on the weekends. I mean, that was what Detroit was until they fleeced it right we had all that we had it all it was i mean in detroit wasn't just white people i mean that's why it's destitute now because all the white people left and let all the black people suffer because that system allowed that i just think it's like it's so fucked that that we put all that that that mental success is like by money i think that's another thing where they hijack the church too right when they i mean the church has always kind of been look churches are scams every now and then you get a good one no i don't i disagree though i think a lot of churches are being run by con

artists and now yes okay come on now you go back back even in like the 18th century like the church would be in colludes with the government like there's always been i'm not talking about system i'm talking about community building that's what like what our mamas talk about when they go to church they're not talking about they're talking about they go see their friends that's their community now that was hijacked by a bigger system that started preaching to them about gays and abortion for political gain for a long time that was not their whole scam was just like i live a little better life than my flock that was their whole scheme right and now it's you know mega churches and it's not that's not to say that you

can't have a big church or you can't be rich in the name of jesus i'm not saying that i'm just saying that once you know you start swiping your credit card at the altar, a thing, things complicate. Wait, that's a thing? Yeah. I don't want to call it the specific church, but there's a big megachurch in Dallas

where when you do tithing, which makes sense because it's more efficient or whatever, but yeah, the credit card swiper comes down the aisle. I mean, that does make sense and we prefer you have the one that you can just tap it it just feeds everything now it's like more tasteful and from your phone and so you put your card info in your phone and then you just do it through the phone but i remember distinctly as a kid seeing a swiper i need a giving app for my shows yeah you do yeah that's his name okay under his eye all right guys let's uh let's get into some stories uh i do want to talk about the elijah mclean story uh this is one that we've brought up and been like i i can't even like look at the videos

they make me cry there's a video where he walks in and people at his job are having a surprise party for him and he's just such uh he's like so clearly moved by the fact that these people are having history's most half-assed surprise party for him. It's like two people and a cake. And he's just like, I don't know. You cry when you watch it and know what happens to him. You see the police body cam footage of them running up on him. He's holding his hands out in fear and sort of instinctual defensiveness and just like,

oh, no, no, what's happening? They put him in a chokehold that is designed to deprive your brain of oxygen until you pass out. Then the paramedics injected him with ketamine when they arrived, and he died on the way to the hospital. You know, a combination of all the ways

that institutional racism dehumanizes black human beings. They didn't see a kind, gentle human being, which is what you get from just watching two seconds of a video of him. If they had just stopped to hear a single word he was saying, but they somehow saw a threat. The paramedics didn't treat his body like a human's body. They shot it full of an unsafe amount of tranquilizers, which is, you know, the medical industrial complex we're realizing is,

I mean, a lot of people aren't just realizing it, but it's becoming more evident to mainstream culture that there is a huge institutional racism problem in medicine yeah why did they tranquilize i don't understand that because he was already restrained correct the same reason that you know these white folks do anything that they do the cruelty is the point also at the time that they were i believe that department was experimenting with using ketamine as a tranquilizer which is so bizarre to me that you think you can run experiments on people that you found on the

fucking street but i mean that's the history of black folks when it comes to medicine you know like we've always been experienced yeah to see hell they're trying to do with fucking covet like hey black people y'all first no no you know i mean henrietta lax steal our dna use it for a fucking century like right it's so it's just really disgusting and i'm just like i don't know if there's any humanity left in a lot of these white folks and it's so so disappointing to see that there's just because i mean if you if we all are traumatized from slavery there has to be some kind of trauma as well on the white side of like we you know grew up with cruel watching cruel figures put their foot on the necks of other people and that was normalized for so long I mean people were having barbecues around hanging black bodies like so you can't tell me that kind of

psychological trauma hasn't been passed down with these racist white folks as well and at this point it's just you see the videos nobody cares Breonnalor got murdered in her home no one has a good excuse for that her killers are still running free and black women rarely get justice and it's so fucking disgusting yeah um but the with the elijah mclean thing uh people staged a kind of a beautiful protest he used to play the violin for uh cats in an animal shelter uh to help them sleep at night uh just because he's like literally the most gentle human being to ever exist and so people staged a protest where they were playing violin in the park to honor his memory. And the police just roll in like stormtroopers start grabbing, hitting people while people are playing violin saying, no, no. And now we learned in the past few days that three officers have been suspended from that same police force because they were reenacting the chokehold on the memorial people had set up where Elijah McClain was murdered by the police.

And I don't know, we have a new show on our network with Baritone de Thurston called We're Having a Moment where he talks to an activist and photographer who was at the early protests in Minneapolis and talking about the protests functioning as sort of memorials for, you know, the hundreds of black men and women and children who are needlessly murdered by the police, like Mike Brown's mother and Eric Garner's, uh,

one of his parents are at the protests. And, uh, you know, I, I've seen people kind of like a small movement starting to kind of turn a lot of these protests into a memorial for elijah mcclain and i think that's i don't know i think that needs to like i think that's a good strategy because there's just no way to look at this story without realizing what we're talking about, just how stark it is. That is just as cartoonishly evil as Bull Connor, as the shit that we were seeing in the 60s that I think a lot of white people had convinced themselves doesn't exist anymore.

I'm just hoping that something can come out of that story because it's just fucking unbelievable. Yeah, there are no words. There are really no words right now for me. There's no defense no yeah it just seems like the only instances where we're seeing any kind of justice have been when things were on fire yeah and peaceful protests i you know news isn't covering them anymore because the cops are no

longer for the most part out there inciting, which obviously that's why this Elijah story brought that back into the mainstream is because they showed up like goddamn stormtroopers when folks were just playing violins in the park and being sad. What a terrible move, I think, too. Oh, yeah. Non-stop. They just can't help themselves. Oh, yeah. Non-stop. They just can't help themselves. It's like my friend Mamadou has a joke about that where he was like, we're like, please, guys, no more police brutality. And they were like, oh, you you don't want police brutalities. We'll smoke a whole pack of police brutality. Like we were like, please stop. And they were like, oh, we we could actually do more.

Right. No, that's not. Yeah. No, that's not. Yeah, I think my thing is like. But the white liberal thing to me was very clear when I moved to Seattle, Washington from the south, was that I thought I was going to this this fucking liberal oasis where I could really. Do some cool stuff. And what I found out when I got there is that yes they are liberal as hell if you have 250 000 if you if you if you have that ante in you can be in this liberal oasis where they don't care what you look like what you who you fuck where you come from, anything. As long as you can play this game that they're playing. But that's the way they see it. They do not understand poor people. And I don't know how to make them.

I mean, they don't understand black people either. No, they just see black people as poor people. That's the thing. In Seattle, they kept calling the black neighborhood the ghetto when I moved there. And I was like, there is no ghetto in seattle that's where black people live that's a nice neighborhood you pieces of shit right oh yeah and i've had so many well-meaning you know liberal white folks uh try to talk to me about childhood and they'll be like yeah well you know when you

were a kid and y'all doing the dozens and you know you you get you getting quarter waters and i was like i didn't grow up poor like no shade no shade but how you just gonna assume because i'm black they're like you know how it is when you're scratching and surviving are you quoting good times to me sir but they have the same racist issues it's just they're more micro and not micro because they're still harmful but it's like little shit that they're doing every day and fucking ruining your psyche you know what i mean you get a job they're like ah it's good for you because you know white white comedians out here with white men we ain't getting no jobs it's like no the room is there's there's nine other white men and then there's me like you know like and that's the kind of thing you get on

the left so it's like we've been just fucked all around oh it's your point of like how do we rally up you know everyone who's being marginalized by society it's just i don't know i'm still i would love to do it but it just seems like the cruelty one is the point for a lot of these people and two like people would just rather have someone to look down on than be able to be successful with yes i i 100 agree i think that's a problem is that they need to feel better than someone yeah and they're also not terribly educated people so if they can look at one group of people that looks different and has less than them there they can be like well i'm not them where they don't understand like yo other poor

people aren't holding you back that's not how that works right that's the fundamental thing i think it's an education thing and i I just keep preaching like fundamentally, if we take care of all poor people, the whole system, it's okay. Look at it as a plant or a house. If your foundation is fucked, the whole thing is fucked.

If the roots are fucked, the whole thing is fucked. There might be a one really cool part of it, but the whole thing's going to come down. And that's... I think a lot of it also goes back to white liberals and how they have treated that rural, marginalized white community as well

with just complete disdain and dehumanizing or treating them as stupid and not engaging with it and with them as as human beings that has allowed that community to then be prey to forces like you know the fox news and the uh donald trump's like i i do think a lot of it goes back to like a lot of the shit that they claim about white liberals in the mainstream media is absolutely 100 true um and you know that's that allows uh the the sort of dividing of communities who are being marginalized. And it speaks to a problem the left has. I think the biggest problem the left has is there is a communication issue between the classes on the left.

Absolutely. Is that the upper class is constantly policing the lower class about language and how they speak and their jokes and things like that, where they don't understand that you don't understand blue collar people communicate different. Like me having a job in corporate America was totally different than me having a job in corporate america was totally different than me being a server or in back of the house at a restaurant and i made more money being a server right yeah it's it's that's an issue that the left needs to talk about too now the right we need to accept that they don't give a fuck about being hypocrites they think that's funny when we call them that they

don't give a shit they just want a response to whatever we have to say at them that's all it is most of them at this point most trumpers if we're being honest there's about 30 of our country that are pure assholes doesn't matter color creed sex gender we just got 30 motherfuckers and all they want is a response to make you mad that's their whole life we've got to stop arguing with them they're that's all they want it's an abusive relationship it's like the cops where we're like hey like peacefully we're like hey you guys are being you're little much and their response is like we're a little much fuck you i'll show you a little much right of what we're talking about i'll show you a lot much that's it that's yeah but you're right it's not it's not enough for

some people they're like it doesn't matter how many george floyds or brianna taylor there's there are like they're never because like they want the cops to keep other you know they want the cops to keep everybody well the brown people down um because that's the whole point is that for them to protect property and to keep the white areas white and they're doing a great job at that you know what i mean they the white areas white. And they're doing a great job at that. You know what I mean? They're not policing their own neighborhoods. No, they're not.

No, that's another huge problem. You need to live in that community. Yeah. No one went to shoot Andy Griffith because he lived in that community and he kept that community cool and he didn't have to wear a gun. Barney, we need less Barneys up there is what we need. All right, guys, let's take one more break and we'll be right back. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season.

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so he kind of torpedoes the Bannons. But it's scary how dumb he is, but how effective what he's doing. He's still in this, even though he keeps stepping on his own dick every other day, if that. I think this metaphor has been made. It is pro wrestling, what he's really good at. He gets that emotional side of everything.

That's his base. His base is not intellectual at all. It is 30% pure emotional human being. They're angry. And they've been taught that black people, these other poor people have kept them down. And they're rightfully angry is the confusing part i think that people miss right is that they're also been held that they're poor they're at their health

care system sucks they don't have jobs either but they're they're being told and force-fed that it's these other poor people that are fucking up their drink. And their right to be angry at the liberals and the mainstream media too, I think they're just, they focus most of their rage at, you know. Someone that's a different, I have a bit about that on my second record,

is like, that's, it's easy, because we all have like negativity inside of us. So dumb people just label that as like, oh, well, your skin's different. That's why I don't feel good. And they've been taught that. I mean, that's the reason. It's been reinforced if it hasn't been taught. Yeah, it's been taught. It's been taught in school.

It's been reinforced in media. That's the reason blackface was such a huge deal to us is because it was a tool that was used by white folks to demonize black people. And it spread like wildfire throughout the culture and, you know, reaffirmed these hateful, you know, things. That's why the stereotype of like black people love watermelon that comes from a lot of freed slaves made a business, made a living selling watermelon and they started making money and you know then white folks saw that and they're like wait a minute negroes are making money they're getting success somehow we have to turn this into a negative so that you know because they got jealous insecurity it's insecurity is what it is it's it's like we don't want y'all

to have nothing or if you have something you got to have less than me. Yeah. Yeah. That's insecurity. It's deep, deep insecurity. So just briefly on the subject of Trump, two quick things. One, he shared this video of the McCloskeys. I just have a feeling that the picture of those two standing on their porch in front of their McMansion with automatic and semi-automatic weapons. so perfectly encapsulates like the sort of white fragility and impotent and

confused dissonant rage that's happening. Uh, that I think is even hard to make. Well, I think to me, if you really look at that, if you examine those pictures and those images, what it signifies more than anything else is, I'm trying to think of the right way to word it.

It's that the idea that peaceful people are going to come take your stuff they're not afraid of their stuff getting taken even though that's what it looks like it's that they know systematic change is coming if you see them pointing the way they're waving those and they're not holding the guns correctly because they're not trained to shoot those guns they don't know how to use those guns either of them her wrist was so limp with that gun her fingers on the trigger her fingers on the fucking trigger she could be holding it like rambo to shoot holding an m60 he's holding an m16 like it's an m60 and he's rambo but that's if you really watch them they're not those black people and those people protesters are just walking by being like all right just these is a lot keep

going guys like stay on the street stay on the street jesus christ look at these and it's just they're scared they're like why are you guys organized why are you in my it's like you're supposed to be in downtown st louis or east st louis west st louis is our what are y'all doing oh yeah we're bringing it to the rich neighborhoods that's longer you're supposed to fuck up ferguson not that no yeah that's what's happening that's the fear in their eyes it's, oh, because they would love on some level if they went into their homes and fucked up some antiques because they've got that shit so overinsured. It would be they'd make money on that. Yeah, they're begging for they would love for something like that to happen.

Did you guys see a photo of inside of the house? Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. It's insane. It's a museum. It looks like a museum museum it looks like a museum it like in a scary way they have yes marble steps they have these like you know like old school kind of like uh who's the guy who painted on the ceiling first uh michelangelo chapel yeah they have like sistine chapel-esque like paintings on their ceiling it's the ugliest shit i've ever seen morgan murphy said

on twitter it looked like the uh the part of the parking garage at the americana is what their inside of their house looks like it did that on yeah no when she said i was like holy shit that's exact but then you start looking that's when people are like look at all these rich people's art their taste is terrible i'm like no it's not all that is money laundering all that stuff is money laundering all that is a scam so it's all over insured and they've got it's all overpriced and they can move tons of money to another rich person by just selling them this Voss from the 16th century. That's how they do all that. So for them to be like,

oh, we're protecting our property. No, you're protecting a system. That's what you motherfuckers are protecting. And you're scared because you know it's changing. Also, they just didn't seem that confident with the way that they were holding their guns. I feel like if the crowd had just decided to jump onto the sidewalk and run up on them i don't know if they would have been able to shoot anybody in time she would have shot him

in the head on accident she was brandishing that weapon just like limpest wrist finger on the trigger just waving it around she could accidentally shot anybody at any moment somebody had just head faked at them i feel like she would have dropped her gun and he would have just started firing it wildly in the air yeah um yeah the kickback just blows him into the grass briefly that's another example of him kind of co-signing white supremacist violence uh in line with his Tulsa speech. And then the old guy yelling white power from a golf cart. Now he's retweeting this video of these people brandishing firearms, that peaceful protest.

I forget who said it. Someone tweeted. He's like, those two, that couple will speak at the Republican National Convention. Absolutely. And I was like, oh, oh damn it you're so right fuck they're probably getting so much press right now so many people reaching out who like we need a story we need to talk like i'm sure that they're gonna become the darlings of i just hope he wears chaps and he comes out and he just shoots

in like yosemite Sam when he comes out. Do you agree that there was like something sexual about like how they, like I felt like they had like some, like after they went inside, they just went to town on each other. Oh, they haven't been that turned on towards each other in 30, 40 years. They've not had that turned on towards each other in 30, 40 years. They've not had that spark. I mean, people said the same thing about Derek Chauvin because the whole time he has his foot on George Floyd's neck,

he's got his hands in his pockets. And we're like, what is happening here? What is this? Yeah, there's a thrill there. I'm sure that's the most thrilling thing that's happened in quite some time it's so weird that we just have allowed donald trump to just tweet whatever he wants at this point he can tweet anything literally anything it really and it's not startling it's like we're fatigued we're so fatigued yeah uh well we know it means nothing or something that's the that's the thing and i think it's here's the thing. And I think it's...

Here's the thing. If it didn't make Twitter a ton of fucking money, he'd been gone a long time ago. Yeah. That's the truth of that. Yeah. He'd be on a... What's it called?

Parler or whatever. Parler. Parler. Parler. Did they give it a French name yeah that's what it's it's apparently a french pronunciation somebody was making fun of ted cruz for calling it parlor i was like yeah that's what it's called right isn't it am i wrong that just goes to show they mean nothing they ever say about it right exactly um there's two new Trump books coming that are worth keeping an eye on. One was just held back by one of his relatives who's just airing the dirty laundry of the Trump family.

How much more laundry is there? look at what their practices are as a family it's wild um and so maybe this will be like a more detailed more entertaining version of that but like this was all there when you looked at uh you know the reporting on their taxes and like his dad's taxes and you know when he was gifted uh yeah tens of millions of dollars as a baby, and then they just basically laundered it by treating people like shit who lived in low-income housing. But the other book that's coming out is Bernstein, from Woodward and Bernstein,

has a book coming out where he got access to the transcripts of Trump's calls with foreign leaders. Uh, and they're apparently very, uh, entertaining. And Oh, if,

well, I'm sure they're entertaining until you move back and then realize who he's talking to and saying this stuff to. And you're like, this is terrifying. Yeah. Very. He's apparently uniformly just so kind

and uh personable and friendly to uh the authoritarian leaders uh and then is like openly bullying and demeaning to uh the australian president or prime minister or whatever they have down there. Anyways, we'll keep an eye on those. Those should be interesting. Finally, I want to talk about The Princess and the Frog. Splash Mountain is going to be redesigned around that movie. It's a movie that was

released right before Avatar. I hadn't realized that, but apparently it got swallowed by that news cycle and you know just passive disinterest from the media uh bad marketing plan by disney just ambient racism of our country but they're hoping that this revives interest in the princess and the frog it's the first disney movie to star a black princess yeah but in that disney movie she was a frog for most of it that's the other thing she's a frog for two-thirds of the movie yeah

they're like we can't have people just looking at a black princess that long they will get upset uh we'll make off a frog for most of it like it's crazy so i'm wondering what this exhibit's gonna look like is it gonna just be a lot of Anika Nani Rose's character as a frog? Because, thank you. Well, I know. Yeah, that's so funny. Their thought was like, we'll do the reveal two-thirds, so they've already invested their time and money.

It's like, do they reveal that she's black at the end, as you're going down the ride? By the way, she's a black lady. Sorry. Honestly, maybe that would have been better. You know, just from a comedy standpoint, it would have been better. But yeah, she's a black princess in the beginning and it's like all in New Orleans. And then, you know, quickly on she begins.

She turns into a frog and then she's a frog for so much of the movie. So she starts off as a black lady. As a black. Yeah. And then Jesus Christ. so much of the movie so she starts off as a black lady as a black yeah and then jesus christ then she's then they're like we'll make her a frog it'll be fine they'll forget and then right i also forget that they have to look at a black person as a princess and then they're just looking at a frog a frog with a great voice uh we were talking on uh last week about third degree racism this concept of like when companies try to do diversity initiatives they just do it real half-assed

and don't follow through and don't treat it with any of the same attention and you know uh intellectual firepower that they would anything having to do with profits uh and i feel like that's sort of what happened to this movie like they just didn't they just really half-assed it and gave it a bad release date gave it a bad title the marketing sucked the they made the princess a frog for half of the fucking movie. And yeah, it just... I remember the movie coming out, but I feel like it never really hit the zeitgeist, whereas people blame the fact that Avatar came out a couple weeks later for kind of swallowing it up.

But Alvin and the Chipmunks, the Squeakquel, came out at that time, and I remember that movie more than The Princess and the Frog in terms of being something that happened in pop culture history. I feel like it just got kind of ignored. Well, and if we're being honest about how those businesses work, Disney has a lot of money, and when they want to promote something, the world will know about it

if they want to promote it. And if they don't, that's a decision. That decision was made in, that wasn't like, oh, Avatar did a better job and Chipmunks did a, that's,

all those companies, everything they do, there's a meeting and a decision. There's too much money involved in all that. That's on purpose. And I'm sure they've used... But the good thing is Walt Disney was just a good dude all around.

Yeah, that is good. There's no evidence of any other... Any anti-Semitism, nothing like that. Good dude. Just good dude. Like we're talking about, good foundation there at Disney. Yep. Just reading the Sony email hack,

I just know that they've used the reception of this movie a thousand times to justify not making another Disney classic with a black lead and a black filmmaker. But yeah, they need to try that many more times like effective immediately oh i can i mean and lacy can probably tell you too networks it does they they have any corporation has a great way of telling you why your project or whatever it just it's just not going to work right when you're like but it's kind of the same as that one that you already do and they're like nah it's different it's not right and they have no idea everyone thinks that network executives have some kind of grasp on

what's popular or what's smart or what people will like no they just fire out so much shit and hope that they get lucky. And that's all it is. That's why there's tons of shows that you've never seen or heard before that come and go. Pilots, all types of shit. Movies, everything. And it's like they just waste a whole bunch of money and hope to recoup a lot of that on big, you know, hit shows and blockbusters, you know, when they get lucky. But they don't know what they're doing.

Yeah. If they did, there'd be three shows uh yeah the did you guys read uh well what's it what's the william golden book uh i forget what it's called but he was adventures in the screen trade where he just talks about how nobody knows anything. And just points out five examples of movies that they wanted to shelve because they thought it was going to tank so bad when it came out. And they became iconic, monstrous hits. He's just like, nobody in Hollywood knows anything. Don't let them tell you any of the other ones. Same goes for SNL.

Will Ferrell pitched more cowbell every episode for like three years. And they're like, no. And then they finally threw it in and it destroyed. It's iconic. Yes. You don't know. That's why comedy is what it is.

That's why it takes 10 or 15 years to get really good at stand-up because it takes 10 or 15 years to get really good at stand-up because it takes 10 or 15 years to learn what works for you and what doesn't right and they're doing all these comics a disservice throwing them out there at five to seven years in they're fucking them over because they've got like a funny 10 minutes 15 minutes and the rest they're just grasping. And then people are like, oh, he's not funny. And you're like, he is.

They just fucked him or they fucked her. You know? I've never understood that. Like if they, because I've noticed that in a lot of specials recently that I've watched. Like Netflix sometimes gets it right

where it's like, okay, we're going to give everybody 15 or we're going to give them their tight 10 or sometimes even five I've seen where it's like okay we know that they're gonna have like the hits for this short amount of time but then sometimes it is like a whole special like pete davidson special where i was like i think pete davidson's

funny but i think he got up there and did a lot of improv where you're just like oh what else what else what else but we're like filming this and it's like 20 minutes of what else what else what else what else well it's like yeah i'm sorry dude it's that no good it's that thing you were talking about where it's like they throw all and once he got hot they're like oh well then have him do a stand-up special because he's got a movie coming out and he's on this and you're like well maybe he shouldn't do the stand-up special yet because he's been working on all that other stuff but they're like cash in cash in and it's hard as a performer not to be like how much sure i'll talk for an hour i don't care comics have writers i'm like y'all couldn't hook my boy up with some some materials well

well pete pete because uh you can't tell p Pete what to do. That's true. That's what makes Pete wonderful. Well, guys, it has been lovely talking to you both today. Billy Wayne, where can people find you and follow you? And also, why do you have a tiger behind you? Yesterday's guests had a tiger behind her, Fizza. Now you have a tiger behind you. What's happening? I'm just in my son's room.

We found this at a yard sale. It's like a life-size tiger for like $20. That's awesome. And, you know, we don't get to use it a lot. That seems pretty cool. Is this what using it entails? I guess, yeah, because it just sits there and startles me

sometimes when I walk into his room where I'm like, there's a cat in there. Where can people find you and follow you? If you just Google Billy Wayne Davis all that stuff comes up. So whatever you choose to follow, like I'm on Twitter, Instagram, all that. And I have a

cannabis podcast that we're about to start working on the second season. There's a whole first season that you can binge on. It's called Grown Local. It's not like I do. My co-host is a world-class cannabis grower out of Eugene, Oregon. That's where we base the first season is out of Eugene. It's not going to be over your head.

It is two stoners, but it's for people that are curious about. And if you like people, that's what the podcast is about, is the people that make up these communities. So we're trying to take that stigma away from the plant of the lazy stoner because it's just these salt-of-the-earth,

wonderful human beings. Huh. Cool. Grown local. the lazy stoner because it's just these salt of the earth wonderful human beings huh cool grown local is there a uh tweet or some other active social media you've been enjoying like i think i'm going to call back to uh morgan murphy's tweet about about the couple that they look like they lived in the parking garage exit at the Americana. If you don't know what I'm talking about, Google those right now. Google Americana on brand parking garage and then those people's house. It's so accurate. Lacey, it's been wonderful having you as guest co-host these past two days.

Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that stuff? Guys, you can find me as always at D-I-V-A-L-A-C-I-D Valaci on all platforms. And you can listen to my podcast if you like scams at Scam Goddess Pod on wherever you listen to your pods. Actually, it's just called Scam Goddess. Why did I say that? But yeah. Why did I say that?

But yeah. And then the tweet that I have been enjoying is, this comes from Gina DePaz on Twitter. And she says, laying on a skinny dude's chest is like laying on the porch. That's awesome. I was like, yep, yep, yep. There's an old lazy dog underneath it. Shout out to the skinny dudes.

Who knew chests have ribs? You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Matt Moore tweeted, what if you put your fingers in a girl's mouth to be sexy and she just made a really loud whistle with them that called a horse over? Brody Gopta tweeted, Win-win. That's win-win right there.

Brody Gupta tweeted, If I were an x-ray technician after I took the first x-ray, I'd say, Okay, now let's do a goofy one. I think people would laugh, have a good time. And then Isabel Steckle tweeted, If not, no worries. Me sexting.

Which, yeah. And then Isabel Steckle tweeted, if not, no worries. Me sexting. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as the song we ride out on. Who's got a song today?

If no one has one, I have one. Lacey, do you have a song that we can ride out on today? Yeah, I actually do, guys. I've recently gotten to the girl band Haim. Oh, yeah. It's A-J-I-M. And on their new album, Women in Music Part 3, there's a song called 3AM. And it's just so vibey and, like, wonderful.

So get into that. Get into it. We are going to ride out on that. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for this morning. We'll be back this afternoon to

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