The Daily Zeitgeist - Dwayne “The Right” Johnson, Wall > Wheel? 1.14.19

Episode Date: January 14, 2019

In episode 308, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Amy Miller to discuss how The Rock is a few more quotes away from being a Fox News pundit, Mueller putting the final touches on the report, Trump'...s iron clad wall argument, the Jayme Closs story, Coming To America 2 and more!FOOTNOTES:1. The Rock slams snowflakes as 'looking for reasons to be offended'2. As Robert Mueller writes his report, a potential battle brews over obstruction of justice3. If the shutdown lasts two more weeks, the cost to the economy will exceed price of Trump's wall4. John Lasseter left Pixar after a sexual harassment scandal. He’s now heading another animation studio.5.  Nine Days After Leaving Disney, John Lasseter Is Named Head Of Skydance Animation6.Missing teen Jayme Closs found alive7. COMING TO AMERICA 2 is happening 8. Millennials Are Killing Golf Courses9. Trump's ex-lawyer Michael Cohen will testify publicly to House Oversight Committee before entering prison10. Trump: Wall=Wheel11. Trump not clear on how money works/MEXICO WILL PAY...in a way12. John Lasseter Taking Leave of Absence From Pixar Amid "Missteps"13. Skydance Animators Grill CEO David Ellison on John Lasseter Hire14. Yeek - Solstice Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:01 Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to i heart true crime plus only on apple podcasts hello the internet and welcome to season 65 episode one of your daily zeitgeist the podcast we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness using the headlines box office reports tv ratings what's trending on Googs and Sochi Meads. It's Monday, January 14th, 2019. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jackie Potter and the Prisoner of Ask O'Brien. Courtesy of the Trite Gang, and I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Starting point is 00:02:40 Cause I'm a gray boy on a steel horse I'm miles. And I wanted, wanted Jack O'Rourke. Wow. Thank you to Pablo Main at PabloMa367573996, you know, for starting that account just to hit us with a case. So, you know what? Congratulations. And thank you for that because I love that song. Yeah, maybe it is. Like I told Jack before, I remixed
Starting point is 00:03:11 it with my friend to be the theme song to that show Hoarding Buried Alive. Let's get a rendition of that. Cause I'm crazy with all the useless shit I buy cause I'm hoarding hoarding. Hoarding.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Buried alive. Yeah. Yeah. So there's two for you. For half the thought. Well, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian Amy Miller. Thank you. That was a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Yeah. Yeah. It is. You guys are up today. We are. We have to go on my ninth cup of coffee. I just got out of bed. You did? Because I'm sick.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Not because I'm a piece of crap. Oh, okay. Yeah. Wait, you can be in bed and not be a piece of crap? Yeah. Yeah, that's true. What if you're bedridden? Oh, okay, yes.
Starting point is 00:03:57 That's true. That's true. Anti-laziness propaganda. Yeah. We are resting. Isn't there some kind of biologic or evolutionary biology sort of take on laziness propaganda. We are resting. Isn't there some kind of biologic or evolutionary biology sort of take on laziness is about purely energy conservation or something? I'm sure.
Starting point is 00:04:11 That's how people who are just like, yo, I can't burn up these calories. Yeah, well, and sleep cycles. In general, I am a natural night person, though. Are you? Today, I just don't feel good. Oh, yeah, I always have been. Even as a little kid, I would stay up the latest in my family.
Starting point is 00:04:25 What would you do? Because were you a kid who had a TV in their bedroom? Yeah, no, not in my bedroom. But then at some point in the mid-'80s, I got one of those little combo radio slash TV joints. Oh, yes, with the black and white screen? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that was a lifesaver.
Starting point is 00:04:42 Oh, so you had that in the room. Yeah. Because I'm saying, how do you stay up late without a TV? Well, I was also just a reader. Do you know about? What is that? A reader. I was a bookworm as a kid.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Bookworm. And all you needed is a flashlight, and you could stay up all night, and you're not bothering anybody. And you could go anywhere with your imagination. Exactly. I hear those are coming back, books, with this new generation of kids. I love them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:07 They're a blast. I'm bad at them now, but I try so hard, and I like them when I get into it. All right, Amy, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We are talking about The Rock. He is just a few more quotes away from being a Fox News pundit. We're going to talk about that. The rumor circulating that Mueller is putting the finishing touches on The Report.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Some of Trump's more ironclad wall arguments and just where that debate is at the time of this recording. We're going to talk about creepy old John Lasseter going back to work after just nine days of unemployment. So he got his comeuppance. We're going to talk about all sorts of things today. But first, Amy, we like to ask our guest, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Okay, this is also revealing about my relationship
Starting point is 00:06:01 because my boyfriend will do things like this, like text me. Do you guys know who Freddy Rodriguez is? He's an actor. He played like Rico in Six Feet Under. I do now. Okay. He's great. My boyfriend texted me, Google Freddy Rodriguez's wife.
Starting point is 00:06:20 And that is a sign to me that she is most likely a plus-size lady, which you don't see a lot of actors with. And so I did, which you are doing now, and she is hot, hot, hot. Oh, look at that. Wait, which one's Freddy Rodriguez? Oh, yeah. Do you like his face now? Okay, yes.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And so that was one of the last things I Googled. But this is like, you know, it's like a cute little flirty thing, like, hey, Google this. And I'm like, I get it, okay. Other people are chubby chasers too. Google his wife. How long have they been together? I think quite a while. Yeah, these photos like, they have all kinds of
Starting point is 00:06:58 hairstyles and clothing styles and I'm like, oh, they've been down. Unless he changes his facial hair every day, they've been together for a while. Down the same road, if you're interested in this kind of relationship, look up Pierce Brosnan's wife also. Oh, for real? Oh, yeah. All right, Pierce.
Starting point is 00:07:15 What is something you think is underrated? Something I think that's underrated is stealing. Okay. Just like ideas from other people? Oh, no, no. definitely not ideas from only goods and services okay wow services no no no goods are easier from corporations thank you yeah yes um not i'm like thank you for claire yes not stealing in a way that like will hurt or affect another person or you know a person doing a job.
Starting point is 00:07:45 But like corporations, you know, taking stuff from Walmart. Yeah. Target self-checkout. I think times are tough. OK, we have 800,000 federal employees not being paid right now. Right. I think if any of them want to go into a Target and just take like a little eyeliner. That's true.
Starting point is 00:08:03 We talked last week about the government guide for how to survive the shutdown. And not once did they mention just stealing shit. Take the green Tabasco from Chipotle. You know, take some vinegar from a Five Guys. Or just look at like who the biggest donors are to Trump. And then we're like, those companies are open season for stealing. Right. Yes.
Starting point is 00:08:23 You can at least directly take from somebody who's giving to Trump. So look, there you go. Yeah. I also need to recognize my privilege in this as I am a white lady who looks like a teacher. So it's easier for me to get away with. So I don't necessarily encourage it, especially if you live in a very racist place anywhere in the United States, I guess. You live in the US.
Starting point is 00:08:43 But, you know, get a white friend to take a couple things for you. Yeah, that's what an ally would do right now. Put a soda box on the bottom of the cart. Oops, I forgot about it. Or just take six of the sodas out of the box and then put them, like, in your pockets because they're not looking for that shit. Or put other shit in the box.
Starting point is 00:08:59 Take two puddings from the thing of six puddings. No, you get the 24 rack and you take a couple of things out and you bring tape with you and then you put some steaks inside there. See? Oh, 24 beers. No, six beers and nine porterhouses. I'm so invisible to retail employees
Starting point is 00:09:15 that I have stolen by accident. Like, because I was just holding something that I was thinking about buying and then I ended up walking out and I'm like, well, I'm not going back. Right, because you're like, I can't face them't face them yeah yeah but the government is willing to suggest that you you know put some of your kids up for adoption or you know yeah sell body parts or organs blood plasma right but they are not willing to suggest that you you know shoplift your next yes
Starting point is 00:09:41 any corporation that's been aligned with Trump who has caused this, go steal from them. Yeah. And that's basically all corporations. Right. Yeah. At the end of the day, yeah. We're in a corporatocracy that he is the beneficiary of and partially causing or helping. Unless there's someone who works in loss prevention and then you don't want to make it hot for
Starting point is 00:10:03 them. Right. And they'll be like, well, what happened there, LP? Exactly. Yeah. Yes. What is something you think is overrated? Forgiveness.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Oh, wow. Usually I do dumb shit like Domino's Pizza or whatever. No, that's not dumb. Hold on now. I'm just getting bigger today. Yeah. Forgiveness. Well, okay, because there's so much talk.
Starting point is 00:10:23 We're going to talk about The Rock and whatever. I love The Rock, but he's defending Kevin Hart. All of this just like I keep getting asked about Louis because I'm a woman who does comedy, and I'm just like, I don't care if a lot of these dudes get forgiven. Right. Even if you don't love me anymore? Sorry, I had to finish up.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Miles was singing a Don Henley song. And like, why? Because I do the same job for a lot less money. Do I have to like forgive someone? Fuck, I can swear on this, right? I always forget. Fuck that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Just like, it's fine to be like, that person is a bad person. And I don't need to spend time thinking about them. But I don't want to like contribute quotes to your think piece all the time. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I just don't forgive Louis. And also in the case of Louis and Kevin Hart,
Starting point is 00:11:13 they both seem like they have not done the work that they, in the case of Louis, promised to do. And in the case of Kevin, his stand-up routine was all about this bad thing that happened to him without any like just didn't seem like he had any conception of the victims of his you know crimes as being actual people well yeah and i love kevin hart and i will probably continue to consume his comedy and movies um so that's on me but i'm also willing to say that out loud because i'm not a coward kevin hart was like back and forth it was just like he didn't want to apologize when people were asking him to apologize i think that he's probably truly
Starting point is 00:11:56 homophobic and so he doesn't want to say that he's not yes so i shouldn't i shouldn't watch his comedy but like realistically i probably will because he's at the top of our game and success, and it's silly not to watch the person who's best at the job that you do. But I don't have to forgive what he said. Fuck that. Yeah. Why? I don't even know you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:20 I don't even know her. I did follow him once, and that was tricky. But I did very well. Like around a city? Or what do you mean? No, at a comedy club. Oh, got it. That was tricky, I bet. Yes.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah. But it was fun. It ended up fine. Nice. Yeah. Did you like, you were sort of self-aware of that? You're like, wow, I had to follow that. Well, I had to follow Tracy Morgan and then Kevin Hart.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So it was like, yeah. Oh, that's an interesting duo to go after. Yeah, it was a real setup. So, yeah, you just have to acknowledge the elephant in the room and be like, none of you know who the fuck I am. And then they're like, bah, ha, ha, that's true. You can just do your act and it's fine. What is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false?
Starting point is 00:13:01 What is a myth? What's something people think is true that you know to be false? This is from my current life, but people say there's no cure for the common cold, which I have right now. But did you know you can just go to sleep and not wake up for three days? Oh. And then when you're done, it's pretty much gone. That's what I've been working on for the past three days. Just sleeping for three days straight.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I mean, there's nothing else you can do. Like a moody teenager. Listen, I know people have jobs to go to. But once again, federal employees, if you have a cold right now, when you're finished stealing. Or now is a good time to get a cold. Sometimes your body doesn't let you get sick
Starting point is 00:13:38 until it's time, until you have some time to relax. Exactly. So just go to sleep. Yeah. Did you use any aids in that? Any NyQuil? Anything like that? I don't really take cold medicine. I don't know why. I drink a lot of extra water and maybe like take vitamins, but I'm not a cold medicine person. It makes me feel weird.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Really? Yeah. It makes me like jumpy. Oh, interesting. You know there's like 1% of people that when they take NyQuil that it wires them? I'm in that. Of course. That happens to me like 10% of the time. Yeah. I'll just like. For real?
Starting point is 00:14:09 Yeah, yeah. It'll just make me like a little weird. Yeah. I'm like jacked up. Yo, I'm going to go see if that works. I mean, I did robo trip in college and that was not a good look. Was that like regular tripping or was it like terrible? Terrible, right.
Starting point is 00:14:27 Yeah, I'd imagine that would feel terrible. Look, I was experimenting. We all were. Yeah, you're like, let's go to Rite Aid and get the big ass discount bottle. Steal it. See what happens. And then watch the Doors movie. Our face is two inches away from the screen.
Starting point is 00:14:42 You sound so sad in that story. It was weird. It was like, yo, like the part where Andy Warhol has a golden phone for Jim Morrison. He's like, it's God. I was like, whoa. And then I was talking to my friend. I'm like, yo, look, we crept up two inches to the screen, didn't even know. Then played a soccer game the next day.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Wow. Did really well. Hey, man. Anyway, I don't recommend that. Tip for you athletes. Yeah, exactly. Tip for all. Anyway, I don't recommend that. Tip for you athletes. Yeah, exactly. Tip for all you young athletes out there. All right, let's talk about The Rock, you guys.
Starting point is 00:15:12 So, yeah, he came out. He gave an interview to the UK's Daily Star, which if you followed the link to that interview, you came to find out was one of those UK tabloids that is much more lenient towards nudity than our tabloids. And just any kind of right wing thinking. Yes, that as well. But here are some of the quotes from The Rock. He said, so many good people fought for freedom and equality. So true. But this generation are looking for a reason to be offended. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:15:45 If you are not agreeing with them, they are offended, and that is not what so many great men and women fought for. We thankfully now live in a world that has progressed over the last 30 or 40 years. Correct? People can be who they want, be with who they want, and live how they want. That can only be a good thing. But Generation Snowflakeake or whatever you want to call them not that are actually putting us backwards so this kind of confirms or uh leads
Starting point is 00:16:15 me down a path that i was starting to suspect about the rock when he had his feud with vin diesel who i'm sure is also like a movie star with a big ego. And so I'm sure all their beefs on the set of the Fast and the Furious franchise are stupid and over really silly stuff. But he was really macho gym teacher when he would insult Vin Diesel. He'd be like, we got these candy ass wimps on the set. And Vin Diesel is sort of an effeminate dude
Starting point is 00:16:42 when you see him outside of certain roles. He's a dancer. He seems very drunk. Yeah, yeah. When I worked at Oscars, for a party he came through, it was tipped. But he's a nerdy dude. He really puts on the- Yeah, like Hampton.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yeah, for movies. And then off the set, he's a dancer who plays D&D. Yeah, for movies. And then off the set, he's like a dancer who plays D&D. And so I was like, man, is The Rock just like that dude who is, you know, will bully you like an older brother type shit? Like you said, Amy, we're right to suspect that this has something to do with Kevin Hart. He's defending his homie. Yeah, they've been in a few movies together.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Yeah. Central Intelligence. Oh, yes. The Great. They're all good. Jumanji. Right. But yeah, I think it's a part of me is like, do do I read into this like super duper hard or because then other times he'd like another culture war moments. He does fall on the right side of the argument. Like when it came to kneeling, he was like, well, clearly they should be kneeling because people are not understanding why they're kneeling and you think this is a moment for politicians to understand what these people are trying to protest so i don't know if it's or if he's just like old school where he's like yeah i'll like make fun of how a gay guy dresses but i would never hurt him i don't know it's almost this reverse bubble situation where i think when the rock says that everyone now is freely allowed to be who they are
Starting point is 00:18:07 and live with who they want, he believes that because of where he lives. I think that's exactly right. But it's still not true. Yes. I mean, people aren't allowed to just exist without violence and discrimination. Yes.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So I just think grain of salt with everything. It's just good to remember that he is a professional wrestler turned actor. And he is not where I go for my political hot takes on anything. But if you want to see all four muscles in a quadriceps, check out his IG. Well, I tweeted at him this morning at The Rock. Oh, good. If I'm such a snowflake, why don't you catch me on your tongue? And I have already been threatened several times um because that's just what happens when you're a woman you need to eat at any celebrity especially the rock what are they what are the threats like
Starting point is 00:18:55 oh i mean the replies are just i mean they're all over the place yeah yeah um yeah i i think you're right that this and this is an argument you hear a lot. This seemed to be Kevin Hart's entire defense that this is people getting mad for the sake of getting mad. And it just shows a complete inability or unwillingness to just acknowledge that there are victims like that. Right. You know, the, the Don Lemon video that, uh, we mentioned last week is really great where he talks about, you know, how child abuse towards gay youths is a huge problem, especially in the black community. And he wasn't even like Kevin Hart wasn't even telling jokes about it.
Starting point is 00:19:37 He was just saying he would beat his son if he were like, I'll smash a dollhouse on his head or something. Right. It wasn't a joke. It was just like, yeah, he. Well, yeah. He also still, he tours with these opener guys called the Plastic Cup Boys. The Plastic Cup Boys.
Starting point is 00:19:54 All of his openers stay the same, and they're also, like, the team of people that write a lot of his material and, like, follow him around. But they open arena tours, which I've been to, and like they all have like some shitty Caitlyn Jenner joke or like a bunch of homophobic shit. So, and you know what's so funny is that he deleted all these old tweets, but just like, I shouldn't encourage this, but just like a cursory search of any of the Plastic Cup boys with like the other F word, they're still out there a lot
Starting point is 00:20:27 of them are in conversations with kevin hart so it's like really weird that they have not scrubbed their twitter but um but yeah like that's just the crowd that he runs with and it sucks but i just i think that he is homophobic so he's not going to say he even said like i don't want to be an ally like that's not my life's vision yeah said like i don't want to be an ally like that's not my life's vision yeah um and i don't know that the rock fully understands that but like these are dumb people right right like yeah and i don't know that he's homophobic in the sense that like he wouldn't want to hang out with ellen degenerous exactly like he's he's conveniently homophobic or he's homo he's passively homophobic in the sense that if he meets a new person who is not his, you know, chosen or accepted version of sexuality, he's going to be like weird about it.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Yeah. Yeah. I think it's just one of those things like it's different. So he doesn't fuck with it or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I also think The Rock is just like repeating things.
Starting point is 00:21:25 I think at this point like people talk to a few other guys that they kind of agree with and then they just like repeat a phrase. Which I think is, it happens on both sides. I think for them too like when you're at that level of celebrity like you really do have to watch all your words. And I think them saying that is sort of like them being like, it sucks because I can't like, if I were to just say it, if I were any motherfucker, no one would give a shit. But if I say one thing the wrong way, then I have all these problems.
Starting point is 00:21:53 And that probably feeds this mentality of like, well, everyone just wants to be offended. Yeah, and I think in general we should stop just like canonizing everything that every celebrity says and thinking that they're all of a sudden smart because they're rich, because they're not. But I'm really tired of this just like villainizing of young people too, that the difference between fighting for freedom,
Starting point is 00:22:14 like you have to go to war to fight for freedom. It's like, I don't know. Yeah, no, I mean, that seems to be a specific distinction he's drawing where like, we will physically let you be with whoever you want. Like, and that- In your home away from me exactly but like then what do you think like telling a joke for people to laugh about about beating a person of that sexual persuasion like what do you think that does do you think that that is part of a free society like that seems i mean saying it is part of a free society and obviously as a comedian I have to, like, support that,
Starting point is 00:22:46 but I think that people need to just stop spending money where they don't agree with the person saying something terrible, you know? Yeah. Like, I'm open about saying I will probably still watch Kevin Hart, partially because I'm a comedian, but, like, I don't agree with him. But if I were just a consumer, I would just cut it out of my life. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:23:06 You don't have to go see the movie. You don't have to pay for a ticket. Yeah. But people don't protest in that way. No one's been flooding out of the club when Louis shows up. Maybe one or two people. Right. So like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:23:17 People are cowards. That's my quote for the day. Everyone's a coward. At the same time, I do think these people should reserve the right to, you know, point out when they think he's wrong. I agree. It goes both ways. You know, you say some shit like that, then you open yourself up to other people voicing their opinion about what you're saying. And I think it's weird.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Even in that quote, he doesn't really, like, explain how Jen Snowflake is ruining shit, which is a little weird. And I don't know, maybe they just selectively used quotes because they don't really give you a full transcript of the interview, just like these little quotes. And then their commentary in between, they're like, yeah, exactly, The Rock. But I think, yeah, I mean, I hope that his quote isn't that sort of outpouring of young people
Starting point is 00:24:00 pushing back against racist or homophobic comments from people isn't what he's like, oh, they're fucking it up by calling this shit out. Yeah, that's also a fight for freedom. That's what I don't understand. And there's nothing to be gained from it either. As someone who's outspoken a lot of the time publicly on the internet about some of these issues, there is no reward for it. It's only nightmares.
Starting point is 00:24:25 So if some 18-year-old, whatever, is like brave enough to protest or speak up against the shitty things that Kevin Hart said, that's great. I mean, that is I mean, they're fighting for freedoms as much as anyone else. Yeah. I think there's a general movement among celebrities where they're comfortable with gaining power and fame and wealth from the public, as celebrities always have. them off and that's kind of a new thing that you know i've heard uh george clooney and brad pitt like talk about how mad they are about like people being willing to you know it's like the angry tweets thing on on jimmy kim right it's like a new thing that they're having to deal with and i think that ties into this a lot that people are like well who the fuck are you to talk to me because
Starting point is 00:25:21 they're old school where that used to not be a thing that well hollywood is still built to like it's still a industry where entire basically corporations are formed around famous people to keep them you know happy and so they're not hearing honest feedback on a regular basis and now that we have a culture where they can just like hear from any old asshole like who wants to criticize them. Then that is puncturing that bubble. And I think that's very uncomfortable for people who are famous. Sure. But you can't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:56 You can't just be worshipped. I think we idolize our celebrities too much in general. Totally. But they're very happy to have the other side, which is people spending billions of dollars to watch their movies yes i think if people could see how like after kevin hart sends out a angry tweet about you know people treating him unfairly if they could see what he does immediately after that which is presumably like you know go lounge in a multi-million dollar mansion or or bathe in champagne. He's fine.
Starting point is 00:26:27 I think he doesn't eat like lobster backstage. Yeah, he does. Well, yeah. Living the good life. Yeah. We only do that once a week here. Yeah. See, to be second rate.
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Starting point is 00:30:28 nothing dangerous about what you're doing they're just dreams dream sequence is a new horror thriller from blumhouse television iheart radio and realm listen to dream sequence on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and uh there are rumblings in the political sphere in my tummy there are those uh there are also uh rumblings in the world of politics that robert muller might be wrapping up his investigation which i guess isn't the first time that we've heard that but yeah they're putting an actual date on it that it might be mid to late February. Yeah, because Rod Rosenstein, you know, now rather than just resigning, he will try and, or they say he's going to stay on until Mueller submits the final report. Right.
Starting point is 00:31:16 And it seems like by even like early February, he'll start paring down the staff a little bit as like, you know, this section of the investigation wraps up but yeah there's a lot going on because around that
Starting point is 00:31:30 you have Trump basically beefing up the legal team like adding 17 lawyers I think they want to get to 40 lawyers just to deal with the Mueller report
Starting point is 00:31:39 yeah right the Mueller report and like all the Democratic oversight that's about to hit the White House I mean that's probably what they need like all the democratic oversight that's about to hit the white house i mean that's probably what they need like yeah people have been saying that trump is the first
Starting point is 00:31:50 president to ever be under lawyered heading into a situation like this like he just doesn't have the legal representation because he's not a careful guy who thinks carefully about things well right and then he also has like people like rudy giuliani in his ears. Like, yeah, good. Good point. Who just, I think, on Friday was saying that the White House would like to make corrections to the Mueller report before it's submitted. Like, yeah, in case anything's wrong, we should be able to correct it. What the fuck are you talking about? Like, that is not how it works, my man. Just erase a couple things. Yeah, just redact most of it.
Starting point is 00:32:23 How about you get this whole part about the cooperation with Russia? I think this whole thing is overblown. But yeah, I think a lot of it has to do with, you know, because a lot of it has to do with the obstruction aspects. And there's plenty of evidence to show where the president has intervened in inappropriate ways in his own self-interest. own self-interest. But I think some people are saying like the strategy that they might try to use, like in one way to keep the Mueller report from getting to Congress is like evoking this really bizarre, like retroactive executive privilege where Robert Mueller is technically working for the executive branch. So he can't share his communications with people like Reince Priebus and other people in the executive with Congress. It's really like, it's really harebrained.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I'm not like a legal person in any, you know, by any stretch of the imagination. But from everything I read about it, it just seems like, yeah, you can try that. Like Nixon tried that. Yeah, Nixon tried it. Yeah, Obama tried it too with Fast and Furious stuff. So, yeah. Shout out to Vin Diesel. The two great disgraced presidents, Obama and Nixon.
Starting point is 00:33:28 What's the second mention of Vin Diesel today? Nonstop. They do call it the Vin Diesel clause. Yeah. So who is Mueller writing his report for? As he writes this, who is his intended audience? Isn't it Congress? Well, it's technically, I guess, the DOJ, but then it would also go to Congress.
Starting point is 00:33:56 Right. But he's writing about the executive branch, so he can't just be writing to the executive branch about their own behavior. Congress is going to want to see that because in their oversight role, they'll be like, yes, we need to know what happened. want to see that because in their oversight role, they'll be like, yes, we need to know what happened. Right. I mean, that seems completely like baked into the entire structure of this is that Congress, which is why it's like wild to be like, well, I think we should only be the only ones who get. And also let's be able to correct it. Yeah. Like, come on. So, I mean, I think the storm clouds are gathering. And I think as things get closer to that moment, and also Michael Cohen is about to go testify in front of Congress in February, I think. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:31 In front of everybody. In front of cameras, too, right? Yeah, yeah. It's not going to be like one of those private ones. No, it'll be an open hearing. It'll be open. But he is saying that he won't be able to talk, doesn't want to talk about Russia stuff. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Only Stormy Daniels stuff. Nah, nah, nah only stormy daniel's yeah which is like okay and like one of the reasons why he doesn't want to talk about russia is to divulge any sort of classified information like dealing with the ongoing investigation cohen doesn't want to yeah but a lot of the the democrats are like well then we need to have a closed hearing where you can that isn't going to be made publicly available because we need answers because get motherfucker last time you were here you lied right so let's get to the bottom of that part i mean one of that part uh one of the details from the uh slow burn podcast from season one that was about watergate was that i hadn't fully appreciated is that people were basically the same way our public is.
Starting point is 00:35:25 They were like kind of tired of the Watergate investigation and, you know, just they weren't all that interested in it. And then they started having public hearings where different people of interest like went before Congress in front of TV cameras. And that is where public sentiment started to turn. cameras and that is where public sentiment started to turn so it is somewhat significant that we're getting cohen to talk about this shit right like in a way that he's like i'm being truthful right right and answer questions that aren't from like a both sides in uh mainstream media but from like democrats who are going to ask the questions that I think people who are suspicious of the president are, you know, want to have answered. So, and Super Producer Nick Stumpf was just pointing out that there's some talk that this is the opening shot of sort of the Democrat strategy to kind of
Starting point is 00:36:19 get the court of public opinion behind them, like, because you need to have the court of public opinion on your side for any sort of impeachment. And so it'll be, you know, in addition to specifically answering questions about the Stormy Daniels affair and the most powerful campaign contribution in the history of presidential politics, that was an illegal contribution. There will also be incidental details like, so how many women were paid off? And what did the Trump Foundation do exactly? Right.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And things that are going to just kind of paint a fuller picture of who the president is because Michael Cohen has been his body guy, his bag man for a while. Ten years, I think. Yeah, a while. And he's done the dirt for him. So I think it could be fairly significant when Cohen gets up in front of people.
Starting point is 00:37:16 And is he trying to prevent the public hearing? I'm surprised that it would be allowed to go on. No, he's not trying to prevent it. I think he wants to, I think, as a sort of like some people were like, maybe this is his sort of like airing of grievances right before he has to do his little prison sentence. Do you mean Trump? No, I mean Trump. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:30 Oh, I'm sure he will. I'm sure there will be all manners of distraction. Well, they're just going to hit him with the, this guy has no credibility. This guy's a lying scumbag who represented the president for 10 years. It works really well. Yeah. Well, Giuliani, I think when he even gave that quote about it, he's like, yeah, I think we should be able to edit the Mueller report. When they asked about Michael Cohen, he was like, so what?
Starting point is 00:37:55 He's like, that's a big deal. It ain't going to be anything. And I mean, if they treat it like that, that's probably bad for them because they're underestimating how significant it's going to be for people to be able to... I think there's going to be a huge TV audience for him getting up there and answering questions. Just what went down.
Starting point is 00:38:15 We've got to come up with a drinking game. Yeah. Okay, let's work on it. I'm trying to think of what the little points would be. Every time Russia is mentioned, if- Yeah, shot for every time someone does collusion. Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Okay. Hush money, the word hush money. Okay. Speaking of things that are incredibly effective, the president, as of this recording, he hasn't yet built the wall. No. But there's still- It'll take a very long time. The government is still shut down.
Starting point is 00:38:50 He went down there. There's still a wall argument. He went down there and- Saw the crisis firsthand. That's right. And sat down with some very real border patrol and DHS and cowboy people. There was like a rancher, yeah, who looked like a bad guy in like a Three Ninjas type movie.
Starting point is 00:39:11 Oh, yeah, there's all these dudes that are just volunteering. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was a great, nice little spread. They had like a huge.50 caliber rifle there with some bricks of cocaine or heroin and cash and other shit. But no Adderall. No Adderall. He keeps that.
Starting point is 00:39:25 That's legal. Like a Coen Brothers movie just happening. Yeah. But I mean, it was all just like, Mr. President, you're the best. Thank you so much for doing everything you're doing. And then Trump making his foolproof argument about the effectiveness of walls, right? Yeah. I mean, he sort of, this to me, it kind of shook me to my core
Starting point is 00:39:47 because it was one of the first wall arguments that I had heard that really tracked logically. And I feel will sway people when you actually do hear sort of his logic when talking about the effectiveness of a wall. They say a wall is medieval. Well, so is a wheel. A wheel is older than a wall. And I looked at every single car out there, even the really expensive ones that the Secret Service uses.
Starting point is 00:40:11 And believe me, they are expensive. I said, do they all have wheels? Yes. Oh, I thought it was medieval. The wheel is older than the wall. You know that? And there are some things that work. You know what?
Starting point is 00:40:23 A wheel works and a wall works. Uh-huh. First of all, is a wheel older than a wall? No. I don't think that's true. Motherfucker. It doesn't feel true. No.
Starting point is 00:40:34 I don't think there's any possible way that that's true. Most people agree that the wheel came to life around 3500 B.C. Uh-huh. Well, the inside of a cave has walls. Uh-oh. Hey, come on. Don't blow that argument up now. He has something going here with this fucking...
Starting point is 00:40:51 They say it's medieval. Right. And all those cars have wheels. So therefore, if so facto, the wall is effective. I mean, that's kind of where he's at right now with this pitch because a lot of people are like, they're getting more and more tired of this shit and it's dragging on and dragging on like
Starting point is 00:41:07 these are the sort of arguments he has now but people know logically that walls don't work for like a lot of stuff right? for anyone who's hot defense we've all seen skunks come over into our yard I am not comparing immigrants to skunks I just want to put that
Starting point is 00:41:24 on the record in case this someone takes it out of context like Donald Trump Jr. said it's like a zoo to keep the animals out right yeah but yeah I mean look I've hopped fences in my life people can get over walls oh yeah another strategy I'm seeing
Starting point is 00:41:41 from the right is them basically implying that Democrats and people who are opposed to Trump's five close to six billion dollar wall just are saying that walls don't work for anything and can't work anywhere and like aren't willing to acknowledge that there are some places where a border wall is appropriate. And I don't think anyone's saying that. Like the Democratic Congress was willing to approve like over a billion dollars of funding to, you know, add the security enhancements that people who work on the border are asking for. It's just that the only- It's about the cost. Right. It's just they're in an argument with somebody who is, you know, completely full of shit and is trying to argue for a thing that is only rhetorically effective. Right. Like his sea to shining sea wall. You know, when you ask people who work on the border, they're like, well, that doesn't really make sense if you know what the border looks like yeah um and it like it's the need for the wall like pulls like terribly like
Starting point is 00:42:46 the polling for it for people who live within 300 miles of like the border like nah don't need it right it just feels like i mean it's an obsession it feels like a midlife crisis obsession like a like a husband being like it has to be a porsche's like, you can get a Miata, okay? No, they're going to laugh at me. I told everybody I would pull up in a fucking limousine. Yeah, well, I mean, and that's the other thing. You know, the cost aspect has been a huge thing, and this whole time he's always been like,
Starting point is 00:43:16 Mexico's going to pay for it. Yes. I told y'all. And it's just flat out denying that he ever said that, but it's like there's video of it. He's been saying this in every which way. So he said they're going to cut a check. We're going to make up for it. I mean, look.
Starting point is 00:43:29 Apparently Fox News even finally called him on it and showed footage, which is incredible. Exactly, because they're like, wait, we were all like getting off to the idea that Mexico was going to pay for the wall. That's why people were so into it. Like, yeah, they'll pay for it. But listen to him just walk this back, because this is classic dude fucking just eating shit. When I say Mexico is going to pay for the wall, that's what I said. Mexico is going to pay. I didn't say they're going to write me a check for 20 billion or 10 billion.
Starting point is 00:43:56 He's going to write a check. I said they're going to pay for the wall. And if Congress approves this incredible trade bill that we made with Mexico and Canada, by the way, but with Mexico in this case, they're paying for the wall many, many times over. Okay, so let's, again, for anybody, all the Zeitgang listening out there and people go, well, they're going to pay for it through the trade deficit. Here, again, let me just refresh y'all with how that works. Because trade deficits are not a function of an imbalance between governments. Okay? It is about the discrepancy between the value of goods and services purchased from or sold to either country.
Starting point is 00:44:35 So no matter how you balance the trade deficit, that does not make money that the government goes, oh, shit, man, look at all this money we got now. Right. For the wall. Yes. It paid for itself. No, it goes to the company. The consumer, if, man, look at all this money we got now for the wall. Yes. It paid for itself. No, it goes to the company. The consumer, if anything, is the one paying for it. So it's still coming out of your pocket via taxes.
Starting point is 00:44:50 Yeah. So, again, like, and that's what's really mind-blowing, too, is, like, by any stretch of the imagination, this doesn't actually function as in a way to create revenue for the wall. Right. But anyway, you know, that's where we're at. So, you know, I guess he'll maybe he guess maybe he'll scoop into the emergency relief funds for disasters and stuff to build the wall. And I mean, if he declares an emergency, there's a chance that by the time you're listening to this, the wall's already been built.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Because I mean, it's an emergency. So you've got to get that thing up. All the drugs will stop pouring in. Right. Depending what he makes it out of. In California, it could just burn right down yeah right that's true yeah but then will it be no fema money if you don't get your act together start raking those motherfucking leaves but the other thing is too is cnbc was saying that if the shutdown goes for another
Starting point is 00:45:36 two weeks the cost to the u.s economy would exceed the price of building the wall so like if we hit this thing for two more weeks, the economy will take a $6 billion hit. And he's asking for 5.7. So like at some point, like even by that math, you should be like, yo, this is a terrible fucking idea because I already just fucked the economy by $6 billion. And now I'm asking for another six. But again, that doesn't matter because Ann Coulter told him this would be the end of his presidency right yeah it's all rhetorical and just you know arguments rattling around and yeah pissing with real with real world costs yes and that's the thing that is so like baffling you know like putting people out of work is not a negotiating tool. Right. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:46:26 But whatever. You're holding people for hostage that have nothing to do with it. It's just like pure, well, these people are in pain and we're going to say it's your fault. Well, right. And then also, and I think in his mind, he thinks that people who work for the government are all partisans or something. It's like, well, most of them are probably Democrats anyway. So when a lot of people are like, yo, I'm an air traffic controller who are suing right now because they're like, this is a danger to air travel or the FDA not being able to
Starting point is 00:46:53 inspect food and things like that. It's more than just people being like, anyway, whatever. Well, if you're a government employee that voted for Trump, hello. Here's what you get. Yeah. All right. We're going to take another quick break and we'll be right back. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th, 2017 was murdered.
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Starting point is 00:47:43 And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job?
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Starting point is 00:49:02 Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman.
Starting point is 00:49:39 The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:50:03 I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life. It's too late for that. I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours.
Starting point is 00:50:21 BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that? You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it.
Starting point is 00:50:34 That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing. They're just dreams. Dream Sequence is a new horror thriller
Starting point is 00:50:54 from Blumhouse Television, iHeartRadio, and Realm. Listen to Dream Sequence on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And some good news for creepy dudes in Hollywood. John Lasseter is back, baby. Finally. I mean, nine days.
Starting point is 00:51:22 We were all worried. He was only fucking out of the job for nine days so pixar put him on a year-long sabbatical for him to work on himself uh and then his contract was up at the end of the year and they chose not to renew it so good on you pixar and at that point he started looking around for jobs warner brothers allegedly was not comfortable for bringing John Lasseter on and it took him nine days to get work from
Starting point is 00:51:52 the company Skydance which is they're behind the recent Star Trek and the Mission Impossible movies so good movies, they, good movies. They make good movies,
Starting point is 00:52:06 and they're trying to launch an animation division. John Lasseter is the dude who was, like, one of the main guys at the beginning at Pixar. We were actually looking at the worst Oscars ever last week, the 1988 Oscars that didn't have a host, and John Lasseter actually won an Oscar that year for animated short. Really?
Starting point is 00:52:25 So he's been in the game for a long time. For The Lamp? I don't know if it was The Lamp at that point, but it was... Was it a computer animation thing? I think so, yeah. I think it was. I didn't actually look at that. But he was at Disney, I think, before.
Starting point is 00:52:40 And then Disney basically let him go. He went and started Pixar, and then Disney bought let him go. He went and started Pixar and then Disney bought his company for- Has Skydance said anything about hiring him? They're like, look, bro, he's- They have. They said, we take this decision very seriously. What the fuck does that mean?
Starting point is 00:52:59 And contractually, he will have to pay for any damage, any lawsuits that go against him. So they've protected themselves legally and financially. So I don't know. That's not just about financial damage. Jesus Christ. Something I hadn't realized, because I feel like when this story hit, it was amid all of the Benghazi sex crime shit coming down. like all of the Mengazi sex crim shit coming down.
Starting point is 00:53:29 I had just kind of remembered it as being him giving inappropriate hugs around the office. I turned to be like real touchy. Real touchy feely. But there was no details. Right, there weren't that many details. So revisiting this, these weren't just friendly hugs. He straight up grabbed and kissed women without their consent to the point where
Starting point is 00:53:45 women at pixar quote developed a defensive posture they dubbed the lassiter to block him from trying to put his hand up their skirts and there were examples like it goes beyond sexual harassment to sexual assault basically right why can't these guys just take a break? You're rich enough. This is one of those things like Louis too that was an open secret for so long because I have many friends that have worked at Pixar for years because I'm from the East Bay. I've been hearing about this for 15 years that women there had to avoid him.
Starting point is 00:54:21 I do think John Lasseter is a genius in 1988. At this point, I think there are other people who have taken up his reins and become as good at what he does as he is, so there's no excuse for hiring him. He can go live on a golf course somewhere and just
Starting point is 00:54:37 be... have to introduce himself to his neighbors, hopefully. I don't even understand why they want to work. Take a little vacay. Well, I think that's part of it is to, yeah, and to feel that they are omnipotent. They're gods. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:51 Like, you can't fucking hold me back. And for the most part, they have been. I mean, they're having. Well, the fact that you can operate like that and there's a situation the way the society was structured that the female employer is like oh we do the lassiter that's how they're dealing with it not like yo we're the fucking police like now we're starting to move slowly incrementally move into an era we're like okay now we can call this out by hope that becomes the norm but like that yeah it just shows you the way things were where he was operating
Starting point is 00:55:20 like oh that's you know they just to give to hug weirdly. A little more texture on like what it's like when a company is trying to operate with a dude like this in a position of power. Women he found attractive were barred from meetings because quote, John has a hard time controlling himself. So that actively just like institutionally prevents women from moving forward in their careers because this dude at the top just can't be trusted around them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:47 And has no self-control. Like a literal animal. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. Basically. Or a baby.
Starting point is 00:55:54 Not just basically. Yeah. I'm surprised that you're about to tell me. And they used to wheel him around in a Hannibal Lecter set up where he's had the mask on and he was bound on a fucking dolly. And they're like, all right, here's your next meeting, John. Yeah next meeting john yeah this whole like oh it's so scary for men right now i'm like i still have yet to see one person with real and true consequences right so it's just really hard to give two shits about but also like oh if your life got ruined i'm saying this in quotes um after
Starting point is 00:56:21 30 years of getting away with a specific behavior and getting rich off of it. Yeah. It's fine. That's fine with me. Yeah. His name has been dragged through the mud, you guys. Skydance's CEO, David Ellison, held a town hall with employees and urged them to give Lasseter a chance,
Starting point is 00:56:39 ignoring the fact that a 61-year-old former head of a multibillion-dollar company is arguably given just millions of chances and the benefit of the doubt so, so many times. He also added, the CEO, David Ellison, that he wouldn't have hired Harvey Weinstein, and then that if anyone is harassed, they can simply call Skydance's handy 1-800 number. Wait, for real?
Starting point is 00:57:03 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jesus. The HR for real? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jesus. The HR report line or whatever. But as you're saying, then they're just going to build all these safeties in around him. So it's like, well, then no women of a certain type can work on your team. Yes. Because we know you have this problem. And they interviewed, Variety interviewed women who work in the animation industry.
Starting point is 00:57:27 And they're just like, well, what the fuck kind of message does this send to us? Like, that just takes away a huge company that now we can't apply for jobs at. Yeah. They're like, yeah, I want to work with, like, nine-month-in-recovery sex crim John Lasseter. Right. But also just know there's always going to be a ceiling to, like, how far I can get ahead if he Lasseter. Right. But also just know there's always going to be a ceiling to like how
Starting point is 00:57:47 far I can get ahead if he's in charge. Yeah. So hopefully this causes enough of a uproar that you know they rethink their decision. They won't until like the
Starting point is 00:57:58 first three movies they make with him at the helm bomb. Right. And then they're going to be like what the fuck John. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:05 People are still going to watch him. Some people who were upset are gonna forget and still gonna watch them and yeah so uh one crazy story that was all over the place at the end of last week is the story of jamie kloss this is a 13 year old girl who disappeared from her home after her parents were murdered and just basically like walked out of the woods while somebody was walking their dog and asked that person for help. Fortunately, that person was like a support worker who like knew exactly what to do and was capable of like kind of helping her along. And now the police have somebody in custody, 21 year old dude who is being held on suspicion of murdering her parents there aren't a ton of details i guess uh i was wondering if it was like one of those things where like a creepy predator like kind of weaves his way into a girl's life over the internet and then but they're saying that like she wasn't really aware of him prior to
Starting point is 00:59:06 But they're saying that she wasn't really aware of him prior to him murdering her parents. So it might have been like he was a stalker who just stalked her from a distance. It was a huge story there because even the bystanders who she encountered instantly recognized her. Yeah. So where has she been this whole time? She was being held in this guy's house 70 miles away. Oh, he's kept her. Yeah, it was like a very heavily forested neighborhood. Yikes.
Starting point is 00:59:28 And he would just, yeah, keep her away from people, essentially. And yeah, I don't know. The whole thing, like- But it's not a stockholm, like she doesn't love him or anything. No, no, no, no. I'm glad she got out. No, for sure. And this was, she was gone for like two months or something, since October?
Starting point is 00:59:46 Yeah. At first I was like, oh, this is like some- They said 88 days or something. They've been working on this case. Yeah. I mean, yeah, usually these things do not end well. And hopefully she can get back to normal. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:59 I was getting severe Terminator 2 vibes when her parents ended up dead and she was disappeared. I was like, uh-oh. It's happening. Why is Wolfie barking? Your parents are dead. I'm so sorry to make fun of this. We're not making fun of this. I'm not. It's Terminator, baby.
Starting point is 01:00:18 We have to laugh to cope. This dog's name was Max, I remember. What's your dog's name, Max? Why is Wolfie barking? I used to be such an Eddie Furlong fan. Oh, for real, man. Back then. I love him. My mom helped him get a career going singing in Japan.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Oh, good. Yo, and I met him right after T2 came out. I was so fucking amped. And he was like fucking 16. I was like, I don't know, like nine or something. He was like, we had nothing to say to each other. It's just two children. Yeah, exactly. And He was like, we had nothing to say to each other. It's just two children. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 01:00:45 And I was like, cool. Did you know Terminator 2 takes place two years in the future? From now, you mean? No, from the year it came out. Was that 91 or 92? They don't even mention it, but for the timeline to link up, they needed it to take place two years in the future, so they just blow past the fact that it was released, it was released in like 93 and the movie takes place
Starting point is 01:01:07 in like 95 or 96 or something. Terminator 2 came out in 1991. 91 and then yeah, the year in the movie was like 93 or 94 or 95 or something. They're like, nothing's gonna change too much in two years. Right, yeah. And it really didn't.
Starting point is 01:01:23 Yeah, no, they were right. It's kind of a dead period. It's basically the best, the most accurate depiction of the future in the history of movies. And speaking of movies, guys, Coming to America 2, we mentioned at the end of last week that that might be happening.
Starting point is 01:01:37 And I thought at the time that it was going to be a reboot, which I was very heavily against, but it's going to be a sequel. With everybody. With Eddie Murphy as Akeem, that it was going to be a reboot, which I was very heavily against, but it's going to be a sequel. Yeah. With everybody. With Eddie Murphy as Akeem, Arsenio Hall as Simi,
Starting point is 01:01:52 and like James Earl Jones. And everyone's going to look roughly the same age. Yeah, seriously. Hopefully Eddie won't do any reggae music. You cannot do this with white movies. Right. We do not age well. Yeah, could you imagine if they really did that Ghostbusters reboot, like, with everybody now? You'd have been like, are they the motherfucking ghosts?
Starting point is 01:02:10 Right. But, yeah, it's going to be directed by Craig Brewer, who did Hustle and Flow, and I think the Dolan Might movie that Eddie Murphy just did. And the script is being rewritten based on the script that the original writers from the 80s wrote for a sequel by Kenya Barris who created Black-ish. I love it. Yeah, so it's gonna be, I think it'll be, I think it'll be interesting. Apparently it's about Akeem learning about a long lost son and he must return to America.
Starting point is 01:02:36 So was he like secretly fucking around in the first movie when he was back in America and we just didn't know? Right. I don't know. That's the question. Yeah, it's... Like maybe one of those dates from that montage where he's like... He doesn't have a kid with Lisa? Well, that would make sense.
Starting point is 01:02:51 Because they're married. But then how would he be long lost? Would he have just like run away? Sherry Headley still... Maybe she leaves him. I don't know. Sherry Headley is also a time traveler when I look at her photos. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Yeah, you'd think she would... There would be more questions with Lisa being like, what the fuck you mean you got some secret kid back in Queens? Those twins, you know, from that dating thing where they like wrap together. Maybe that date went better than... I prefer the woman who was like I was Joan of Arc in a past life. Just had a lighter over her head.
Starting point is 01:03:19 Oh, that movie's so good. I support this and since we don't spend enough time calling out non-creeps, Arsenio is a wonderful man. Is he? Yeah. That's awesome to hear. He's a delight and a good person.
Starting point is 01:03:29 He seems like a very sweet man. So I support him making any money that he makes. Any money. All right. Are you doing like a Fuji's? Any money. Me say mini, mini, mini. Me say mini money.
Starting point is 01:03:39 Mini money. Okay. I got that. Okay. Let's talk about, there's a tweet from a gentleman, Sam Sykes, at Sam Sykes Swears. He tweeted this article about how millennials are killing golf courses. And he tweeted, another kill my millennial kin. Tonight we feast on the carcass of golf. But I like this story because this gives me hope for our future.
Starting point is 01:04:13 We talked last year, like probably almost a full year ago, about this idea that golf courses are these kind of outdated things where they rope off an entire beautiful section of a town. Like LA has some of the most green space in america of any american city but you can't go to it because it's all these like private golf courses that have been fenced off and also uh you know you have to get accepted by a board of old rich white dudes and then you they also get tax breaks so you're paying for this giant piece of land to be withheld from you. And a resource drain. In the middle of a public park.
Starting point is 01:04:50 In the middle. Yeah, it would be an amazing. Basically, L.A. is dotted with all these central parks that would be amazing landmarks. But they're for O.J. Simpson and fucking Al Michaels to go golfing on. So millennials were killing the golf course? Yeah, so millennials are not golfing because they're normal. Because we're broke. It's expensive.
Starting point is 01:05:16 Also, I don't have the patience to. That's all about just mastering the repetition of your stroke and things like that. Nah, bro. I'd rather just play blackjack. I think it's a fine sport, but there's no reason that it can't be more accessible, and it should have always been. You know, I hope fucking skiing goes away, too. Fuck it.
Starting point is 01:05:33 When you talk- Oh, I love- You don't like snow? I do love snow. It's just prohibitively expensive. It's cost prohibitive. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:39 Like, I can't- You know, I think golf is fine, but those are two things that I'm like, I can't afford to be so bad at something. Right. And when you talk to people who really love golf, who aren't amazing, who aren't the 1% who are really good at it, they're always just like, but it's good to be out in nature. It's good to be out there on the golf course. And it's like, yeah, we would like that too.
Starting point is 01:06:00 In a fenced off thing where I only look at people who are of my same social strata or whatever. Right. Exactly. I think it's fine. I mean, it is kind of a meditative sport, and I think it would be good for people of our generation to slow down in that way. Reclaim the country clubs. Let the proletariat take control of the country clubs.
Starting point is 01:06:18 Yeah. I think we talked before that there are places where the golf course is private for part of the time like there are like a couple days where only the oh i think it's saint andrews over in the uk but then there's also part of the time where the public can go and just fucking chill there and like you know have access to this beautiful piece of land oh like to not even play golf like just to like use it as a green space it might be just to play golf but yeah because i feel like let's let's apply that to everybody yo could you imagine though if they turned half of these things into just a park a public park it would be amazing and i mean what what's happening right now is that golf courses so there was this huge golf course boom between
Starting point is 01:07:00 the 70s and 2010 which was the peak of the golf boom when the most people ever were playing golf, where all these golf courses were built across America. And then they built like neighborhoods with like, so their backyards were on golf courses and all these elderly whites moved in and were like, ah, paradise. But now that those golf courses can't sustain themselves because not enough people are playing it, those golf courses are closing down and all those old people are pissed because their housing, their home's values are plummeting.
Starting point is 01:07:38 So this is basically a story tailored designed to make an entire generation make the jack-off hand motion because millennials are like, oh, your housing value is going down. Maybe it'll go down enough that we can afford it.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Right. Also, in, like, the late 90s, golf actually got cool for sort of younger people, too.
Starting point is 01:07:58 because of Tiger, yeah. So those people are just older now. Yeah. Do you remember when one of the guys from Blink-182
Starting point is 01:08:04 had a magazine that was just about tattoos and golf? No. Who? Tom? No, not Tom. He's violence. I can't remember his name.
Starting point is 01:08:13 The cover was just like hot chicks with tattoos playing golf. And I'm like, that's such a specific Orange County demographic that I can't believe there was a need for that. But yeah, it was cool for young so like just to be like dumb young people it's like no you were a part of that group that thought golf was cool in 1999 and now you're in your whatever's right 40s man I really thought though I was gonna be good at golf I tried it for I went to the driving range a couple times right I think it's great. I'm black and Asian.
Starting point is 01:08:46 I am motherfucking Tiger Woods. I was not that quick on the basketball court. So the black part, I was like, fuck. I support the mixed use, too. Yeah. I just have to say, I really thought I was going to get a golf, and I fucking sucked. So I just stuck to video games. I think if it becomes like a public pool thing where it's like sometimes kids just get to come and freak out but if you want to go during lap swimming,
Starting point is 01:09:09 then you pay for a membership. Like I think a golf course could work the same way. I think that would be great. Just set up a little blanket on the fairway. You know, have a picnic. Have some cheese. Have some cheese. You know, the one thing though,
Starting point is 01:09:22 every time I think about like a golf course is we used to sneak like a golf course is I we used to sneak onto a golf course behind my friend's house and we would kick a soccer ball around because the fairway
Starting point is 01:09:30 is so the grass is so flat you're like oh it's amazing this is how you want to get down going around
Starting point is 01:09:36 tearing shit up on a golf course while drunk is like the greatest thing alright now you're proving their point yeah you guys have seen Jackass. That's what we would do with
Starting point is 01:09:47 golf courses and golf carts. Oh yeah, we'd fuck the fairway up. And the putting greens torn up. For sure. But yeah, I don't know. I would like to see a future, like right now they're talking about how these poor people, it was a Wall Street Journal article, so it's like aimed
Starting point is 01:10:04 at the people whose houses are losing value, and they're talking about how we've got browning fairways and vandalized buildings now behind our house instead of beautiful golf courses. And it's like, yeah, well, work with your town to refurbish that into a public park and get tax money to build that shit back up. Or be aware of the tremendous
Starting point is 01:10:26 wealth gap right that is occurring which is why you have people who are going to take shit out on a golf course right there's yeah anyway i'm i'm sure many of those people yeah like you said it's written for those people like don't worry guys we're gonna figure out a way to get these values back up we're gonna figure something out because you know it's just it's just a downward spiral yeah did you uh did you ever try tennis uh for a second okay my dad loved to play tennis tennis is great this is fun but then i like in the 80s i saw him play racquetball and i was like yo what's that about and he's like you're too young and then yo he used to whoop my ass like so i used to like not in like that but like uh because my mom she was a disciplinarian uh but in racquetball for the longest time he never let me fucking win yeah like always just fucking sunned me like like just hitting it with man strength and then around 13 14 when puberty kicked in i was starting to get a
Starting point is 01:11:21 little bit quicker a little bit stronger and i remember when I beat him, I was like, yeah, what's up, motherfucker? Yeah, that was great, man. Your dad doesn't let you win, and then when you finally beat him. Yeah, I guess, you know, I used to cry, though. I'd be just serving, all crying and shit. Like, 14-0 service, whatever. But I'm saying the kids today are seeing naomi osaka and they're like that's your your kids will be like yo that's that's my sport that is my inheritance i'm gonna
Starting point is 01:11:53 be great at but but i feel like well and you know what at least tennis they're like courts are publicly available in la like you can get down with tennis and you can get equipment for cheap yeah racket ain't that much money. Go to the Goodwill. That's where I got mine. Yeah? You play tennis? Well, we have courts at our house. So sometimes like-
Starting point is 01:12:11 I'm sorry. Where? At Buckingham Palace? At our apartment building. Okay. That's such an 80s apartment building feature. I know. With a tennis court.
Starting point is 01:12:19 It's rad though. You should come back though. Tennis is such a fun sport. Even if you suck at it. Just take a couple beers out there. Oh yeah, we're not good. I'm bad, but I love it. We literally got rackets at Goodwill, and balls are super cheap.
Starting point is 01:12:30 And just start doing a little rally. Yeah, yeah, and you can kind of even do it anywhere. Yeah. Against a wall. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:38 Play tennis, kids. I don't know what the point of that was. Get a couple Bud Lights. Play some tennis. Oh, Bud Light. Tear up the golf course. First beer to put nutrition facts on the box now. Oh, is that true?
Starting point is 01:12:50 Yeah. First American beer to do that. Are they putting ingredients there too? Yeah. But the ingredients are just like water and barley and shit like that. Rice. But they have like the calories and like the carb count and all that so you can know, you know, what you're drinking.
Starting point is 01:13:04 110 calories per can. Well, Amy, on that note, it's been a pleasure having you. Where can people find you? Find me on my website at amymillercomedy.com. Got a lot of tour dates coming up. San Francisco, Denver, Seattle, Washington, D.C. Are you going to be at Sketch Fest? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:13:23 I'll be there for the last weekend of Sketchfest. Us too. Is that next weekend or the weekend after? It's like the 25th or whatever. Yeah. You know what weekend the last weekend in January is? I do. I don't know why I'm yelling at him.
Starting point is 01:13:35 Yeah. I'm sorry. I got ugly. I'm sorry. And follow me on Twitter at Amy Miller. On Instagram, I'm amymillercomedy. It's all pretty easy. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:13:44 And is there a tweet that you've been enjoying? Oh, I mean, I really enjoyed my own at The Rock. Then do it. Oh, yeah, you already told us. I already said it. Yeah, that was a good one. Okay, I did enjoy this tweet from James Fritz. He's a comedian in L.A.
Starting point is 01:14:01 And he said, maybe I've been in L.A. too long, but can't Trump just say he's paying all the government workers in exposure you can retweet that from my timeline James Fritz is amazing that was
Starting point is 01:14:14 yeah I love that I was like this is too good and too real Miles where can people find you find me on Twitter
Starting point is 01:14:20 Instagram at miles of gray and also please come to Sketchfest January 19th we'll be at the Punchline at 1130 get your tickets at SFSketchfest Find me on Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Gray. And also, please come to Sketch Fest. Sketch Fest. January 19th. We'll be at the Punchline at 1130. Get your tickets at sfsketchfest.com.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Oh, you're doing the podcast live there? Yeah. Oh, so fun. Yeah, yeah. Oh, man, I'll just miss you guys. So if you're in the yay area, please come through. Can I plug my podcast? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:39 It's called Who's Your God? I interview comedians about their religious beliefs. Oh. When are you going to have me on? I would love to have you on. Oh, your eyes just lit up like you just... Okay.
Starting point is 01:14:49 Are you really going to have me on or are you just saying this? I haven't thought about it. Because I'm crying. Well, because I don't like put you in the comedian category, which is a compliment. No, yeah.
Starting point is 01:14:57 More than anything. No, no. I'm just sort of a disembodied voice. But I'd love to have either one of you guys on. I'll reach out. Yeah, Who's Your God? Check it out.
Starting point is 01:15:04 It's great. My office is going to be on it soon. Yeah, very soon. Very, very soon. Oh, some tweets that I like. Okay, so there are a few. Reductress as usual. It's three women holding each other and they're smiling. It says, Breaking. Claire remembered the weed. I just love that one.
Starting point is 01:15:20 Jamie Loftus is another one. It says, As a girl boss, every morning I scream Yas Queen until my mirror shatters and eat the glass and drink from sponsored water bottle. Oh, I'm sorry. And then I'm going to take another one, too, because this one's from Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez with the dunk on Joe Lieberman. She like quote or retweeted an article that had a screenshot that said Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez isn't the future of the Democratic Party from Joe Lieberman. And she tweeted, new party, who dis?
Starting point is 01:15:50 Yeah, there you go. The best. What? I'm gonna shout out Kyle Dunnigan, at Kyle Dunnigan on Twitter. He put up this video where he's got some special effect that is putting Ray Liotta's face on his... From that commercial that's so terrifying. The Chantix one. Yeah, it just Ray Liotta's face on his. From that commercial. That's so terrifying.
Starting point is 01:16:05 The Chantix one. Yeah, it just says try fucking Chantix on his. That's his tweet. But then the video is fucking amazing. So scary. He does impressions. My name's Ray. Bill Maher and Ray Liotta that I didn't know you could do like amazing impressions of.
Starting point is 01:16:22 But they're so fucking good. Yeah, and that Jamie tweet is amazing. I also like Mike Drucker's The New York Post tweeted, the job most billionaires had before becoming filthy rich. And he tweeted, quote, child of a wealthy person. Mike Drucker is so good on Twitter. He's so good. And in life.
Starting point is 01:16:42 You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily's so good. And it was. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page
Starting point is 01:16:51 and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode
Starting point is 01:16:59 as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what's that going to be? This is from Yeek, Y-E-E-K. The song is called Solstice.
Starting point is 01:17:07 Just, you know, a little nice bopper for you to get, you know, ease into. Speak of yeeks. We all realized in the studio that we really want to see Donald Trump nude prior to recording today. Shit, I didn't think you were going to talk about that. Is that just us, do you think? I'm curious. It's a morbid fascination. Yeah, it didn't think you were going to talk about that. Is that just us, you think?
Starting point is 01:17:25 I'm curious. It's a morbid fascination. Yeah, it's a morbid fascination, but I want to see that. I want to see that dumper, man. What's going on? What's going on? What's he working with?
Starting point is 01:17:33 What's that butt do? Yeah, I just want to see. Oh. I don't know. Yeah, let's just leave it there. I want to see his whole torso. Yeah, so let us know if anybody else has that
Starting point is 01:17:42 same morbid fascination. I think there are a couple people who tried to do really good renderings of what they believe he looks like based on how it's posed. And those are shocking. Yeah, all right. We are going to ride out on that. We will be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast.
Starting point is 01:17:58 We'll talk to you guys then. Bye! Bye! Way, way, way, oh, oh Way, way, way, doin' in my day Day, day, day, day, day, day I need a cool 70 degrees I feel 70 in my knees I've been weak from all the beverages I've been weak from all the beverages I've been weak from all the cheese I don't even
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