The Daily Zeitgeist - Eat Ugly Fruit You Cowards! Massive Strike Shhhhh 02.03.23

Episode Date: February 3, 2023

In episode 1415, Jack and guest co-host Andrew Ti are joined by award-winning writer and host of Radiolingo, Ahmed Ali Akbar, to discuss… Is Anyone In The UK Not on Strike? The Civil Suit Against Kyle Rittenhouse Can Go Ahead, Shell Oil Reports Record Profits, Eat Ugly Produce You Snob, Beyoncé Fans Are Super-Worried About Ticketmaster (For Good Reason) and more! Is Anyone In The UK Not on Strike? Strike in U.K. sees up to half a million workers walk off jobs in biggest industrial action in over a decade Rishi Sunak bets Brits will blame striking workers for Christmas chaos Sunak ‘sad’ about strikes but insists no negotiation on pay is ‘right thing’ British workers unite in largest strike in a generation Simpsons episode where Homer goes on strike shown by Channel 4 on 'Walkout Wednesday' The Civil Suit Against Kyle Rittenhouse Can Go Ahead Judge Slaps Down Kyle Rittenhouse’s Request to Dismiss Wrongful Death Suit Shell Oil Reports Record Profits Nearly 14,000 Nigerians take Shell to court over devastating impact of pollution Eat Ugly Produce You Snob Beyoncé Fans Are Super-Worried About Ticketmaster (For Good Reason) At Ticketmaster Hearing, Taylor Swift Lyrics Were the Headliner Ticketmaster apologises for Taylor Swift tour sales fiasco Ticketmaster’s Anti-Bot Technology Actually Makes It Easier for Fans to Get Screwed Live Nation admits to helping artists scalp their own tickets to make more money Ticketmaster Faces Next Big Test With Beyoncé Renaissance Tour Why Ticketmaster's Verified Fan System Is Giving Taylor Swift Fans a Major Headache—and How to Actually Find Tickets How Ticketmaster’s Verified Fan program toys with the passions of fandom LISTEN: Soweto by Victony & TempoeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 273, episode 5 of Der Daily Zeitgeist. Ja? A production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Friday, February 3rd, 2023, 2323. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined in my second seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore, a hilarious and brilliant writer, producer, writes on shows like Mixed-ish, that 90s show, You Know Him From Yo, Is This Racist, which has a live episode this Saturday at Cobbs in San Francisco as part of SF Sketch Fest. It's Andrew T! I'm not just the guest co-host.

I'm the co-host that guessed it up. That's right. Hell yeah. What's up, y'all? What's up? Amazing. I was debating before we got here. I was like, that is simply too dumb to say out loud, and now I think I have to try.

Yeah, you absolutely could. Well, Andrew, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a James Beard award-winning writer and host of the podcast Radio Lingo. Please welcome Ahmed Ali Akbar. Pew, pew, pew. Hey, how's it going? It's going all right. I did listen to the pilot episode of the show, which is all about how people mispronounce your name, how to pronounce your name. Did my best just there. That was pretty good. Okay.

I would probably give that a pass. I would go, no, no. C minus? C minus is a pass. We'll take it. I think I'm like, you learn to be okay with lots of different ways of pronouncing your name. And there are a lot of different ways of pronouncing my name, even in my own family.

I realized doing that pilot that half the people in my family don't say my name the same way. So I've learned to be pluralistic and open-minded about it. Amazing. And how deep are you in the show? We finished the first season. The first season is out. All eight episodes are out on streaming platforms of Radio Lingo.

It's a show we did with Crooked Media and Duolingo, so we kind of got a little bit of that cultural criticism. We got a little bit of the linguistics, science, culture. It makes linguistics fun. I mean, I think language is really interesting, and sometimes getting good info

about it is hard. So we hope to do a lot of accessible and interesting information about the way language shapes our world and how our world shapes language. Yeah.

So how exactly did I mispronounce it, though? Because that's... So here's the thing. You can't be expected to say it the way that I say it given the way it's written.

It's A-H-M-E-D. That E is so misleading. It's actually A-M. It's A-H-M-E-D. That E is so misleading. It's actually Am-mud. There you go. That was very good. Honestly, 9 out of 10. Wow. Look at me. Am-mud is how it's said.

Am-mud. That's so good. Honestly, one of the better pronouncers from a non-Pakistani person I've heard. So, kudos to you. I think grading on a curve, grading on the better pronouncers from a non-Pakistani person I've heard. So kudos to you. I think grading on a curve, grading on the white curve is important. It's always important for me, Andrew, that I get graded on that white curve. Low expectations, you know.

Potatoes O'Brien is, you know, my nickname because it is the most average side dish possible. And I'm aggressively mediocre. On the topic of potatoes, I guess I could be Ahmed Alu Akbar. There you go. Alu is potato in Urdu. As you know, like Alu Gobi. But I want to just say there's probably Arabs listening in who are like, he's saying his name wrong because they say Ahmed. That's also right to them. But to me, it's in my family, everyone says Ahmed or

Ahmed. There you go. Yeah. All right. Ahmed, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about on today's episode. Apparently a big strike happening in the UK. It's not getting a lot of coverage over here in the mainstream. So we're going to talk about that. We're going to talk about the civil suit against Kyle Rittenhouse being able to go ahead and just there's some good descriptions in the suit that give you a nice recontextualized things that I think maybe people have lost sight of. In that case, we'll talk about Shell Oils. We just always like to celebrate when Shell oil reports record profits. We like to celebrate the Shell.

Crack open a barrel of crude. It's another banner day for Shell. That's right. We'll talk about ugly produce. We'll talk about Ticketmaster, Ticketmaster anxiety that I think everyone's having around the upcoming Beyonce tour. So we'll talk about all that, plenty more. But first, Ahmad, we like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? I wish it was something interesting, but really what I use Google for now is just looking up things about the video games I'm playing,

which currently is Fire Emblem Engage. I'm like, this game does not explain anything to you how do i promote this character into a class that is cool and does cool things i the game is not explaining it to me so it's all like fire emblem engage how to promote ellier to next class like that's literally it nice i'm i'm not a gamer andrew do. Andrew, do any of those words make sense to you? One of my, they kind of do, because one of my, I believe, first appearances on this very show, I was talking about how one of my favorite things to do as a non-gamer is watch people play video games on YouTube. So I'm like more familiar. I was at my friend's house the other day and his kids were playing God of War. like more familiar i was at my friend's house the other day and his kids were playing god of war and i knew where stuff was even though i had literally never played the game before and i

think i am incapable of it right you're like you missed the chest they're like what chest yeah yeah swing over swing over that ledge and then fire the axe the other way it's right there yeah i really like hearing people talk about video game like storytelling and like all the ways that it's innovating. Again, like don't play video games, haven't played video games since the N64 really you're sort of involved in it. And I feel like there's just a level of, like, commitment and vividness and color that comes with sometimes hearing a video game, like, gameplay described that I really enjoy. Riveting. It's like being a little brother all over again. It's crazy. Yeah, exactly. Jack, you don't play any Candy Crush or, like, Wordscapes or any of that on your phone?

Like, I got into Wordle and Candy Crush at various times. Yeah. To me, that means you play video games. I feel like the intense gamer bros have monopolized that identity. It's like you play games on your phone, you play video games. That's how I see it. And I always feel bad every time I play like Candy Crush or like one of those games. I'm like, what am my because the time like I think the reason I stay away from it is because the

most that I've engaged in non pharmaceutical time travel where it's just like, oh, I've been sitting here for three hours, but I have no awareness like the time just absolutely disappeared has been playing like you know candy crush or something like that so i want to do i want someone to do a deep dive into those like clearly spam video games that get advertised on instagram like it's like this is clearly not a thing like but dozens of iterations it's amazing nine out of ten guys can't solve this what what is the game that you're would you mind engaging in a little uh video game storytelling description and tell us about what was the name of the game fire emblem engage okay it's i would not i would be very embarrassed to have you watch me play that game because it's embarrassing

the game before fire emblem three houses was kind of like this great like political drama in like a kind of anime high school like medieval anime high school kind of situation but like there was actually some smart like character writing in it this new one is just like you know what it's camp it's all camp and your units will your units will die like they'll actually die like they will be dead and the game will not comment on it it's like a it's a game where you like field a bunch of cavalry and like archers and they all have like blue hair and red hair and they like are dressed in ridiculous outfits and you just have to send these child soldiers out and hope that they don't die and try to protect the kingdom from like dragons it's it's really not a very cool game but it is

a game that i've been playing for probably like 12 years every time they come out with one i play a new one because the gameplay is very good it's's a very fun game. Are you watching The Last of Us? Andrew, I think I saw on Twitter that you are. How's everybody doing with that? I actually wasn't because the game was too harrowing. So I was joking about it, but

I'm going to catch up at some point. So yeah, The Last of Us game, which is about those fungus people taking over the world and, you know, this journey to, you know, I won't spoil the journey of what the journey is about, but there's a big journey. The game was very, yeah, like harrowing and nihilistic. And I was like a little worried about what they would do here, because every zombie show likes to be the real enemy is actually humans it's not the zombies like yes we know humans are terrible but uh this last episode they did was so beautiful it was so so beautiful it was about like survival i guess and love and i just thought that the way they did it was like it was just a little short film and that really sold me on it andrew i wasn't sold on it before then either but oh really okay i'm sold well i was just like i'd heard because this episode is a deviation from the

the game and prior to that it sounded like it was very close to the game however my my pitch on twitter was because i'm horribly bad at video games and this is actually one of the few video games i played we should i would like to see a last of us prestige tv show set to the pacing of my gameplay uh so everything takes about like four hours they spend like like really really like unbelievable amount of time missing shooting at one zombie one of the early ones that kind of shit the main character keeps dying keeps dying coming back to life yeah just like just like looking at a pile of bolts in his hands like, I got to make some stuff, I guess.

What is something that you think is overrated? This is a very basic high school opinion of mine. But waking up early, having had to... I'm a new dad. And for the last five weeks, I have been alone with the baby and have had to every single day be the only person waking up when the baby wakes up. And now that my partner's back and we're splitting the duties, I'm like, I don't want to go back

to that. That is not pleasant for me. I know some people get a lot done there. I was waking up early and still not getting as much work done in the morning as all these morning people say. I tried it for six weeks straight. It did nothing for me. All my work happened after 11 a.m.

I'm famously on the Mark Wahlberg schedule where I wake up at 2 a.m. and get a full, just absurd workout in just to make sure that I know that I have the mental edge over my fellow humans, a.k., AKA competitors, because I view everybody else as a competitor. And yeah, first breakfast at 6 a.m., second breakfast at 9. You cook five different meals a day. Can't podcast without the pump. That's right.

You gotta get your pump on before rolling. Yeah, no, I don't have that either. I've tried it and yeah, I'm mostly through the very early waking up with the baby part portion of fatherhood. But it's yeah, I just I just can't wait to sleep in until nine one time in the future and be like, wow, I don't even, I'm not waking up in a panic wondering what has happened that has allowed me to sleep in till night. Yeah. This might be similar to y'all's fatherhood journey, but I just have a dog who wants to go out. But I have a very, and this is, you know, if this were a human being I was talking about,

I think I'd be called, you know, child protective services would be called on me. But I have, I get to make the choice of like of like look it's only going to be some p if i i could in exchange for sleep i can know that i will have to clean up p and then i can make that decision then which i guess if i can't do with the child yeah yeah i don't know yeah we just we just let the pee ride. We let them sleep in it for, you know, the night. Hopefully if they sleep through the night, that's good. They had to have slept through a little bit of pee to do that. And that's actually better than the alternative.

That's some sound sleep. For them and for us. What's something you think is underrated? Here's a controversial one, I think, maybe for some people. But I think SNL. I'm a huge SNL head. I don't know if it's something about being an immigrant kid or child of immigrants, where it was a weekly view into pop culture that was really a grab bag. I find myself continually, not always loving it,

but finding it a useful thing to watch every week and enjoy. Occasionally, I think there's a lot of underrated sketches there. And also, having done live podcasts and really struggling with them, that job is hard. It's really hard. Doing stuff live is not easy. So I think SNL is still an achievement to me. And I will ride for many, many seasons of it. There are some seasons that are not good but

even then deep deep in the deep in the back end of the hour and a half you'll find a good sketch here or there i think it's gotten much better in the last with the the new the new cast members are yeah great love maybe they're just because they're yeah they're just like more more my speed yeah i've just always you know gone in hoping for as much Alec Baldwin as possible in my SNL consumption. No, I haven't watched it in a while. I think it was those Baldwin-Trump episodes. But, yeah, when I do get a sketch forwarded to me, I always enjoy it. But yeah, when I do get a sketch forwarded to me, I always enjoy it. And it is the ultimate death knell of your, I feel like relevance is to be like, SNL sucks now.

It used to be good when I was in my 20s. That is an objective fact and in no way tied to my aging. Yeah. Well, what are they going to do with baldwin's uh new case i don't know if he's ever gonna come back on with the with the shooting case yeah we'll see i guess and have you been amit you've ridden with it for like the whole time yeah you yeah okay yeah i never stopped watching it my family watches it on like it's something my siblings have always done. Oh,

wow. We continue to do it. I don't, I don't know why. Um, I think also I'm printed on my like older sisters who are like almost 10 years older than me. It was like weirdly something we agreed on and you know,

never changed really. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Yeah. It is a nice little ritual. Well, also the YouTube of it really helps like sketch comedy.

Cause it is like, you could just watch the good parts right like you know the four you can watch it on two times speed it doesn't waste an hour and a half of your time you know what i mean there's no commercials you just i watch it on youtube by the way i don't watch it like you don't watch it but yeah that to be fair when i mean like i actually do ask my sister like i was like did you see the michael b jordan one which was the last one that was just on and we were like talking about the sketches and stuff so yeah yeah i love a good family like media tradition like i have a friend whose family just always watched 60 minutes together and they won't miss 60 minutes like no matter what and yeah so as somebody who's watched i feel like more snl than anybody in that i've ever spoken to uh having like stuck with it through the thick

and thin is there a season is there a cast member that you feel like everybody slept on a season or cast member everybody slept on well i was gonna say a sketch that i think is really good because this is a sketch for you to go see because i feel like give us a deep cut sketch it's not really that deep of a cut but i'll just i mean maybe if you're not watching medium cut which is the career day sketch with adam driver where adam driver plays like this decrepit 120 year old father of like a teen like a 12 year like p davidson is like supposed to be like 15 and he just comes in and like talks about you know what it was like growing up as like a robber but the thing is he commits to the sketch so hard you've seen adam driver you

know you know good soup you know like how intense he gets he brings that level of intensity of that character and it is like also like a good example of why live is good is he freaks everyone out in the room he's so intense about it you can see there's moments where like he like stabs like a like a prop raven with his cane and everyone jumps because i guess he wasn't supposed to do it it's like that's something that's magical about snl that like can't be done it's like it's a weird alchemy that you wouldn't see in other places. That's great that he does SNL because I feel like the

super committed I'm drawing a blank on the guy who played Lincoln and is famous for freaking everybody out on set. What's his name? Daniel Day-Lewis. Like Dan Day-Lewis as i call him uh

never never uh like kind of we we never got to see that aspect of like his intensity freaking everybody out so that's cool that adam driver does it i commend that i i like when the guests are like drama kids that really go for it i feel like joseph it's a great example where he's just like he's been ready for this his entire life and like everything is the same level of commitment no matter what yeah one person that i will ride for that i think is very funny is vanessa bear who's the cast member who has this like amazing gummy smile that she uses to great effect on like the totino sketch if you remember the totino sketches where she plays like the disaffected housewife

who all the guys watching the Super Bowl like want her to make Totinos for hungry guys. It's such an amazing and unusual role that like she gets to, you know, like kind of an energy. You wouldn't see as much in sketch comedy that she does really well, I feel like. She's no longer on the show.

She's a former cast member. I really like the current cast, Andrew, like you're saying. There's a lot of new people like Eggo. Yeah, I feel like. She's no longer on the show. She's a former cast member. I really like the current cast, Andrew. There's a lot of new people like Eggo. Yeah, I think that's really... And Punky. There's a lot of new people that I like. Yeah. Weird LA people. It's the best. Yeah, they really went with

the LA comedy scene. Vanessa Bear's character where she's playing the young boy who's I think being bar Mitzvahed is one of my favorite things. So good. That's such a great sketch. One of my favorite comedic performances. See, you are a fan.

If you know that, then you're a fan. Yeah, I've fallen off in the past few years. But Vanessa Bear currently has a podcast on our sister network, Big Money Players. Oh, nice. So it's been very cool.

I guess I'll have to listen to that if I'm writing for Vanessa. How did we get weird? All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about some news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

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And so big strike happened in the UK. Teachers, train drivers joined civil servants and other workers for a mass strike on Wednesday dubbed Walkout Wednesday, the biggest strike action in a decade, which closed 85 percent of schools. And this is just the latest strike action in the UK, protesting low wages. There's been a wave of strikes in recent months across the public and private sectors, including Amazon workers and postal staff, nurses, paramedics, other health care workers are set to strike next week and i feel like i don't know it does do you feel like this is being covered much in in the u.s media i feel like i haven't seen a great deal of coverage on this no it's i i feel like like the the extra lifeblood of America is suppressing labor.

Yes. Anything to do that is what it takes to keep America running. Yeah, it really feels like an allergic reaction that we have to any message, any story that leads you in a leftward direction. Yeah, or even to consider should i be striking like right that is the question they absolutely do not want anyone asking themselves in america yeah well this is a related story which is the nurses walk out in montefiore in the bronx in new york that was right i felt like that got a decent amount of coverage on npr where you know and then the other thing that was brought up was the that i saw in that story was the uh the ridiculous wages that the that the scab

nurses or the travel nurses or whatever you would call them the trap that the ones that kind of filled in they were being paid some ridiculous like hundreds of dollars an hour to to fill in and then i think what's interesting is also when the strike is resolved it's kind of like it's fine now like you, it's not really fine. It's just like the reason they're striking is because things have been so unsustainable for so long. It might get you closer to equilibrium, but it's really not where the workers want to go a lot of the times, too. So it's like a little bit of both. It's like the coverage is like, oh, the strike is happening.

But, you know, it's a reflection of like a longer trend of devaluing workers. And when it's like resolved, it's, it's usually a band-aid. It's really a band-aid for inflation and all the other stuff happening that's causing them to want to walk out. The Amtrak strike being broken was just fucking horrible. It was just horrible. That was brutal. Moving along. Moving along.

Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Everything's good now. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. OK. Everything's good now. Yeah. Yeah. But again, like the public public opinion is in like more than half of people are in favor of the educational sector striking in the UK. Generally, there's always more public support for strikes and labor organizing in the US.S. than I'm usually expecting based on how just kind of much of a non-story it's always treated as in the media. And it really feels like, I don't know,

like people are at a point after, you know, so many years of just being, like seeing over and over again, and we'll kind of keep returning to this and the stories about ticket master and shell but that like the corporations will treat you as badly as they can legally get away with treating you or worse yeah if they could get away with it just quietly yeah i mean i think the pitch to like every worker is like hey you know the thing that gives you the most power against the boss that you hate it's actually doing the thing that you like most

not working so consider strikes it is powerful and actually good yeah there was one like little viral moment where like channel 4 earned praise by uh showing solidarity with the workers by airing the simpsons episode where homer goes on strike on wednesday the day of the walkout and they but they like claimed it was a coincidence it's just that like stuck out to me it's weird like why do you have to claim it's a coincidence this is a thing that's happening don't you know do you have to i isn't i mean i guess it's i will say like playing reruns from my brief time when i worked at comedy central seemed like much more complicated and longer thought out than i ever realized right so i guess i'm saying there is a chance it was a coincidence it was a coincidence. It was a coincidence. Okay, got it. You know, you never know.

But like, yeah, because that it's just like unbelievably tedious. Like, which episode of The Simpsons are we playing now? Okay, we have to clear everything. Every scene cue. Every, yeah, that makes sense. All right, moving on to a civil suit against Kyle Rittenhouse that a judge refused to throw out. John Huber, the father of one of Kyle Rittenhouse's victims, is suing Rittenhouse and the government, claiming that he conspired with officers to cause harm to protesters, which seems pretty undeniable. undeniable like yeah yeah just reading like parts of the case it's just like it's like yeah that that happened that you know we we've kind of gotten some distance from it and the there was

the case that where he was found not guilty but like that just the description like despite openly carrying a rifle the complaint states that Rittenhouse was never questioned by authorities. At the time, Rittenhouse was a minor, unauthorized to possess such a weapon and like couldn't have looked more editorialized. But they couldn't have looked more like a child holding an assault rifle. Law enforcement forced protesters into a confined area with hostile armed individuals and failed to protect the protesters from violence perpetrated by the armed individuals yeah that's like also though every police like every time the police are dealing with uh protesters who aren't nazis so like right it is the thing where i mean if the civil suit goes through i think like i do feel I do feel like the whole, like, quote unquote, justice system is going to be, like, fighting against this.

Because it's really, like, hits to the core of their business model. Right. Right. Yeah. It's so fucking grim. It's terrible to have to see Rittenhouse's face on Twitter every now and again. It's, like, actually amazing. Yeah.

It's like, it's actually amazing. Yeah. And the, so I was assuming like, yeah, it was the, their argument for throwing, dismissing the case that this judge overturned was, you know, something along the lines of the argument that he used to be found not guilty but in fact it's just he's been hiding from them when they were trying to serve him with the papers one of the main arguments was uh that he wasn't properly served in order to sue him huber had to hire private investigators to track down mr rittenhouse's residence which required searching addresses in seven states all they could find was his mom and sister's place in Florida, so they served his sister, who claimed he was not home. And the judge was like, that's what? Yeah. What are you talking about?

It is a wild part of the U.S. justice system that there's a hide-and-seek stage of getting sued. Well, it's also funny because when you talk about Kyle Rittenhouse on Twitter, he gives this aura that he's like, yeah, when you talk about Kyle Rittenhouse on Twitter, he gives this aura like that he's like, I'm like a brave patriot. And it's like, he's a child hiding

from the consequences of his actions. It's like, it really shows you what, you know, the character there. It is like, yeah, he's like such a weenie

at every stage of everything. It is just like, yeah, just kind of some kind of fascist Alfredfred e newman walking around with a gun right yeah but yeah it just feels like i don't know a good maybe this civil suit can be a sort of this is water moment where you get to take a step back and see

this event for what it is that like there's just an implicit assumption in our society that the conservative gun-toting white supremacist side is going to be treated like they're on the same team as the police right that's that's wild yeah it's very spider-man meme yeah yeah yeah all right and then finally some good news. Shell Oil is reporting to profits. Woo! Pew, pew, pew! Yeah. Profits hit $39.9 billion in 2022, a double last year's total and the highest in its 115-year history.

115 year history. So the year 2022, we remember what that year was, was like with the prices skyrocketing and everyone saying this is unavoidable. And this being a key feature of how we were feeling the pressure of inflation and lack of affordability that is driving the strikes that we just talked about. Yeah. You know, and people just not being able to live. So that that year was double year over year profits for a company that is one of the biggest, most profitable companies in the world.

is one of the biggest, most profitable companies in the world. And I know this is like a, the fact that I even have to ask this probably tells you exactly is like a problem with both my like career in general. And like, it's just like, what is enough money? Like at a certain point, like you have to have enough money, right? Like, and what is the point of even this? Like, what are you going to spend it on? You're going to be living in, I guess you're going to be in the dome and everyone else is in a water world.

But, yeah, this is dome money you're accruing. It's the scene in Doctor Strange Love where they're like, well, you know, we could all just move into this cave and, you know, there would be a lot of men, but we would need to re like procreate for populate the world. It's it is that grim, like dark moment where the masters of the universe are secretly plotting to just be like, yeah, well, that's sounds like a YP. Yeah, it sounds like a you're you problem and i'm over here trying to figure out how to move this 40 billion dollars best so i know i will be long dead when this goes down but when these people's militias turn against them at the very first

second of the apocalypse it will be very satisfying. Yeah. They're also being sued by 14,000 people in Nigeria for completely destroying the local ecology, their way of life. That's so weird. Shell's usually so sensitive to that sort of thing. Right. I know. So, but again, like, I don't know. These sorts of lawsuits, you know to be the thing worth destroying the world for.

Right. And there's like no amount of fines you could give them. It's, yeah, kind of like a bad thing for the earth. I'll get back to you. Kind of almost like that. Yeah, we'll Google that and get back to you on that one. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about the ugly produce movement.

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Just the most fucked up dish you've ever had. Exactly. But basically, there's a sorting process that happens before produce reaches grocery shelves. produce, reaches, grocery shelves, and they get rid of any that have visible imperfections in favor of, you know, whatever looks like the platonic ideal of that fruit, essentially. And so people have kind of had the idea for a while now, actually, that this is probably contributing to the fact that the USDA estimates that as much as 30% of the U.S. food supply goes uneaten. So it's, we'll talk in a little bit. But so Whole Foods, a couple other places tried to start a similar movement in 2016, but like really couldn't get consumers on board.

And there was a recent study that said that just the natural human assumption is that ugly food is actually worse for us, even though it's not like it's completely incorrect. But a University of British Columbia School of Business study found that people assume ugly produce is less nutritious and less delicious than its better looking counterparts which is a bummer because it's not true i feel like it says such bad things about humanity that like our our idea of you i mean you say platonic ideal i'm like basically we can't process any food that doesn't look like a five-year-old drew it. This is like apple, but it's exactly

shaped like this. Let me search in my emoji to see what apple is supposed to look like. And typically, the one that looks the most like an apple has all the flavor bred out of it. You don't like the red delicious. It's the absolute worst.

Your platonic ideal of what an apple should look like. Don't get me started on Red Delicious. It's terrible. I wrote this article about the mango market on WhatsApp. And mangoes in America are very beautiful. And the ones that come from Indiaia pakistan asia are these like bruised little soft messed up things and you and they're like covered can be covered in black spots and they are literally 10 times better than any like people like all your you know asian parents

are going to be like mangoes in america aren't mangoes and they really are when you try them it's like it's like they like taste like apples, you know, the Tommy Atkins and like all, they don't have that kind of like caramely sweet goodness that,

and so like this article that I wrote, you know, back in, was it 2021 now? 2020? Is like about how people will pay $8 a mango

because they know how much better they can be. And I think it comes down to people just not really being very educated about seasonality the other thing that's crazy about that is when i've people have heard about this they're like it'll be in january they'd be like can i get some mangoes i'm like you think mangoes grow in january like they do not they only grow for a couple of weeks like you know in in the summer like they're not or it's a season it's not

something you can get but here in america you can actually get mangoes literally every month of the year because we're importing from all sorts of different places yeah so on the misfits thing i'll just say one thing which is if food waste is the primary problem then the misfits thing is like a really small part of it because even still all of the stuff that's coming to the market like they plan to make a profit on it it, to charge as little as they do, that half of it is going to be thrown out. Like, they just want you to, you know, it's a model already built on waste. And yes, supermarkets are slightly reducing their wastes,

but it's really probably not as sustainable as supporting a local farmer or CSA, which is, you know, they're trying to still get you in the door and support their overall very bad for the climate environment. So I'm a little skeptical of these misfits, Mark. Yeah, I am, too, because I mean, one of the even in this article in the takeout that covers it, they mentioned that like when the food gets sorted before it's delivered to the grocery stores, it's not just like thrown in a can and picked up by the garbage truck it's actually used to feed animals or fold it back into the soil to add nutrients to the soil so yeah it doesn't it doesn't feel like this is the thing that's driving food waste yeah yeah it's not the primary thing yeah it's the whole supermarket model in general is just a huge contributor to food waste so uh they're just trying to kind of launder their reputation a little bit i think yeah of course and even these

subscription boxes like i'm not sure like you know sure you're eating the wasted stuff but if it's being you know driven on a gas powered you know a huge massive truck like or delivery van like is that really more sustainable than just you know not doing that i don't know buying from a local farmer or something but to be fair buying csa's those things are expensive i've tried and i waste a lot of my csa's so you know i'm calling the pot calling the kettle black over here right yeah i mean we have a very productive lemon tree at my house and love that for you. I love it. It's one of the greatest gifts in my life.

But it produces, I'd say like 10% of the lemons it produces look like H.R. Geiger designed them. There is some wild shit, which I feel like is actually cool. If I saw some lemons that looked like that at the grocery store, I think I'd have to be on board with that. You know, a lot of zesting surface area. If you want to do a lemon zest with that has like Cthulhu tentacles coming out of the top of it.

Oh, yeah. Have you ever seen an overgrown zucchini, by the way? Have I ever seen a what started making overgrown zucchini by the way have i ever seen an overgrown oh because they grow like little like night king horns right if you don't cut them by the time they become like that perfectly like even shape they just become these giant bulbous like creatures that are just horrifying and it's like i wouldn't wouldn't know that unless my sister had a summer of trying to grow zucchinis. I had no idea that there was a perfect time

to cut a zucchini off the stem where it looks nice and after that, it just becomes so scary that you don't want to eat it. Obviously, probably the water content is too high in those bigger ones. That's probably why people

harvest it at that time. But it's like, yeah. And plants can be really scary looking sometimes. And we would eat those giant zucchinis. It would be really hard because it'd be huge but i feel like there's other stuff about the you know to your point about even if this isn't true our snobbiness around how pretty the fruit is like kind of works against the ultimate product that you're getting with like the isn't bananas are all clones of the same banana that have like yeah lost a lot of their

because the thing every other banana is better than what you think is a banana america yeah because when you're designing the fruit which which all fruit is designed in a lab, essentially, at this point, when you look at what corn used to look like, it wasn't on a big dick-shaped cob. It looked like a little garden weed for a long time. And then farmers were like, no, this should look more like a big dick, I think, covered in corn. Yeah. Well, there's an interesting balance. Some of them do look good on a shelf, but we've also seen improvements. I don't know if you have this Brussels sprouts thing where everyone was like, we used to

hate Brussels sprouts. And part of the reason that is, is because they bred the bitterness out of Brussels sprouts in the 90s. So the Brussels sprouts we're eating now are much better. So that's why they're so, like, so much more delicious. So it's, like, it's interesting, like, the balance of, like, consumer education versus, like, the scientists, like, sort of, like, sneaking a vegetable in by improving it. Like, sweet corn also used, like, many varieties of sweet corn would, like,

stop being sweet within, like, a minute of harvesting them or something like that. Like, you have to, like, literally just grab them and put them on the grill. So, you know, it's interesting how sometimes you get a benefit from that scientist. And other times it's like, why don't you just make the fruit taste better? Like our fruit in general in America is awful. Sorry to say, I can't think of many fruits that I'm very fond of, especially in an American supermarket. Yeah. Is mango the number one that people need to go try when they're outside of the U.S.? I was in Guatemala last year and had a scoop of mango that tasted like ice cream. It tasted like it was made by a candy company.

It was the most delicious thing. And it was a consistency that I've never had in any sort of fruit. It was just so buttery and sweet. I'm going to throw out persimmons for your asses. Oh, persimmons are so good. The best persimmon I had this year, I picked it up and I bruised it with my...

almost went through the skin with my fingers. It was basically like a water balloon. Well, remind me when May or June comes around, I'll try to hook you up with my mango dealer. And if you're willing to spend, you know, $8 on a mango, $40 for two kgs. Wow. You know, you might have a life-changing experience. You might not ever be able to go back.

That's right. But yes, I would say mangoes are definitely something you need to try when you're outside of the U.S. I'm not that familiar with the South American ones, to be honest, but it's a similar situation to what you're describing with the bananas that all of the ones in North America, much like coffee, like South Asia, East Asia is like coffee for coffee beans in Ethiopia, which is like there's more genetic diversity there. So there's like a lot more varieties there. So I'm not that familiar with the South American ones, but I know that they're better than the American ones. The American ones that come over the border from Mexico are not really designed for flavor. There are some good Mexican varieties, but it's like not the ones you

get at the supermarket. Yeah, I think Americans assume that because of American exceptionalism and, you know, shit like that, they're like, well, we have to have the best. And it's like, no, they're designing this product for you, a not very well-informed consumer yeah so like they just know that you're gonna you're gonna be okay with it and that it's available in december and january and february like when it should not be available yeah i forget what berry it was but there was a kind of long read article about a company that designed its berries to be like it. The berries that we have now were designed to be pickable by robots, essentially, because like that, that is why it's that way. It has nothing to do with how good it tastes.

It's like it looks good in a cart when you're going around the grocery store, and a robot can pick it without destroying the fruit. All the energy goes into, yeah, harvesting and trucking. And if it tastes better, that's maybe a Brussels sprout. I feel like Brussels sprouts is just the anomaly. Yeah. The other thing I'll say about those Pakistani mangoes is that they try to get them in supermarkets, but they go bad within two days. Yeah. They're not willing to pay the price for that. I mean, it's also very expensive to fly them from Pakistan. I mean, that's also like a terrible climate change story that, like, Pakistanis like myself are so wild about it that they're willing to, like, load it up in an airplane and get it flown over here.

That's not so good for the environment. Yeah. wonder if brussels sprouts were it's like a story where it's just they hit such a deep dark bottom and they yeah it was like they they were just you know synonymous with gross someone's gonna spit this out if i try and feed it to and and so the you know the people at the at big brussels sprout like really had a come to jesus moment where they're like we need to actually make these taste good i think you know mafia was like broccoli is over there and they're laughing at us the kids are eating their broccoli but if they won't touch us if it's just bitterness it feels like genetic variation just naturally is gonna look they couldn't be more bitter so if you just randomize brussels sprouts for a couple generations they like almost have to taste better it's like no no other way yeah right yeah it's like they actually had been

designing them in the 40s and 50s to punish children it turns out they were just like we need a food that tastes like shit that we make these kids uh yeah make sure they know that god doesn't love them you know all right let's talk about beyonce let's talk about ticket master beyonce is about to go on tour and in addition to just general concerns that the tickets are going to cost the same as black market organs a lot of fans are worried that ticket master is going to totally screw this up. For some reason, I don't know where they're getting this concern from. Oh, yeah, that literally just happened with Taylor Swift. So Ticketmaster was just the subject of a Senate Judiciary Committee

meeting, which didn't seem to solve that much, except it gave a platform for politicians to quote Taylor Swift lyrics in a just wildly cringy fashion. This will get me on Twitter.com, right? All right. Here we go. Twitter.com. Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut said Ticketmaster ought to look in the mirror and say, I'm the problem. It's me. ought to look in the mirror and say,

I'm the problem. It's me. Amy Klobuchar said that consolidation within an industry is a problem the United States knows all too well. They should be forced to sing this shit if they're going to do this. Yeah, absolutely.

Senator Mike Lee characterized restrictions on selling tickets as a nightmare dressed like a daydream. Oh, God. Yeah. I'm excited for them to bring out the Beyonce lyrics when that comes through. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And so the president of Ticketmaster's parent company, Live Nation, apologized to Taylor Swift fans, claimed it was just the damn bots that are responsible for the terrible consumer experience, saying they'll, quote, do better in the future. But that may be the case.

That may be like the problem they are failing to solve. But from the outside, it really appears to be that ticketmaster is a monopoly and so when their website breaks there's not another website that you go to and be like well ticketmaster sucks so we'll go buy the tickets over here which is pretty straightforward like it it feels like you you we end up having to explain the dynamics of capitalism a lot to the capitalists. Is there a reason why it's a monopoly? Is it just the artists are like, it's easier just to give all our tickets to, or the venues, I guess, technically sell the tickets?

Wasn't that the merger with Live Nation or something? No, maybe that's a long time ago now. I mean, yeah, I think that's one of the ways that that, I think a lot of things happen, you know, and there's just not the appetite to push back against corporations. It's, so they, we allow these massive mergers to go through. We're coming off of like 40 years of deregulation

being the operative word in the US.s and it's like this is what you end up with you end up with like broken systems that like don't work because they like a corporation naturally wants to be a monopoly you can't can't just like passively hope that it's not going to be one like that is a massive advantage for them because they ultimately just want to make as much money as possible while spending as little money as possible and you know that's bad and like the bots don't seem to be bad for them i mean they want yeah like the sneaker drops like they want third sneaker drops they're the ticket like all these companies benefit from the bots it it seems like to me.

Yes, their public opinion goes down, but if there's no alternative, if you have one place that does good bot protection and you have one place that doesn't, you're going to go to the place that has good protection against bots. But if it's a monopoly, they're not going to see a hit to their pockets if the

bots are taken down. They want their their tickets to sell up i mean the resale maybe even benefits them to some extent because it becomes even more highly valued so they can charge more and more so like yeah i don't buy it but they end it and it benefits like the bots benefit ticketmaster because ticketmaster has agreements with the reseller sites yep that they get a cut of every resale. So they are just making money on top of the initial money that they made. And so they've been busted, like actually like making deals with resellers.

You know, I mean, they get they get a cut a portion of like every ticket that gets resold on one of these like other official resellers but in 2019 the company's president of u.s concerts was literally caught sending 90 000 metallica tickets to a broker who lab nation was directed to hire with the participation of metallics tick metallica's ticket consultant and just like we didn't notice that one because nobody gives a shit about Metallica, I guess. Well, there's also like, literally, what are you going to do? I mean, every artist, every Ticketmaster, every venue, their response to any of this is, what are you going to do? Yeah.

Like, a little bit. It's like huge artists, like, offloading the being a bad guy to Ticketmaster. Ticketmaster doesn't care that they're a bad guy. It's just like creates a layer of... The service that Ticketmaster provides is creating a layer of plausible deniability to artists to say to their fans, I don't know, it's Ticketmaster's fault. Ticketmaster's like, I don't know, who cares?

Right. Yeah, that really seems... It's good for the artists because there's it creates demand. It creates a story about how hard it is to get the tickets to their show. It's good for Ticketmaster. Like the only people it screws is the consumer. And this is just I feel like this is naturally what we'll be seeing more and more unless there is a actual concerted like political movement to push back against consolidation and deregulation

and like these massive mergers but we just haven't seen it in any real way yeah in our lifetime you know like that yeah this this is what was happening in the like end of the 19th century early 20th century where like the robber barons were just consolidating all their power and then things had to get like really fucking bad for there to be like a massive pushback and it seems like that's where we're headed is there anyone you would brave the ticket master chaos for what would be yours that you would be willing to do this for probably frank ocean that's it yeah yeah i would do it i would do it for frank ocean i really like frank ocean i'm too out of it to like ever i only ever know these things are going on sale when people start complaining that they couldn't get

tickets on twitter right yeah yeah how about you no i think i think everybody that i would have done it for is probably not somebody that i would want to buy tickets from anymore let's just say probably the biggest concert i ever went to was kanye back in the easiest era that was one of the rare times i was like okay i'll pay a lot of money to go see that and now i don't want to do that anymore why would happen we haven't actually no music hasn't been so good i didn't realize i live like i don't know five blocks from dodger stadium and i did not realize that night that elton john was doing whatever his like last show ever at dodger stadium and i you know popped

out to go get a taco and literally like was just stuck on sunset for like 45 minutes oh man oh wow i took the turn i was like oh no and then i looked on twitter and everyone's like going to elton john i was like well i guess i live here now yeah this is just where my car is going to be yeah you could have but i also like grew up in that like very midwestern punk ethos where it's like a place selling more than 20 like they're selling tickets for more than 20 like i'm not going like was cool that was right we were right back then we were like talking about bands selling out and talking about like you know we're skeptical of ticket master and there's a big like fuck ticket master movement and it just kind of went away.

And the idea of sellouts just went away at a time when I feel like we need that protection, that sort of natural fan-based skepticism, because it's bad. But on the other hand, I'm like, wow. Yeah, of course you want all ages to be able to access a show, and an under $20 ticket is great for that. But it's like, how do these bands survive that are not, you know, who are selling tickets for it? I've actually made a concerted effort to go to a couple of, like, $25 to $40 tickets, shows of bands that I'm, like, slightly interested in. I don't have to be, like, the biggest fan. And I'm just like, yeah, this doesn't seem like a lot of people for this to travel the country for. It's a hard gig.

So maybe now that I'm older, I'm like, I would actually give these bands like $50. You know what I mean? Yeah. Throw them a bone. Yeah. They're not getting a record deal. Their Spotify streams are not paying the bills. Let's just say that.

I was going to say, they make their money off of all those lucrative Spotify streams, right? Yeah. That's it. The tenth of a cent. Yeah. Spotify streams, right? Yeah. The 10th of a cent.

Yeah. By, by the, um, my, my friend, Tony, who is my podcast co-host, you can see us now. Uh, she has a rule, which is like, if you listen to an artist on Spotify, you know, whatever number of times, buy their record on vinyl.

That's cool. Because also they can never take that away from you. Yeah, that's right. I just got a record player to do that very same thing i have never been a vinyl person i i fear it'll be a dangerous habit for me but i do feel like i want to throw them some money because yeah not a huge concert person yeah and then ticketmaster is going to buy all the vinyl production just get the corner of the market it's all right man i'm listening to tapes uh which are made of oil so shell profits amit it's been such a pleasure having you on the

show where can people find you follow you hear you all that good stuff uh i'm on twitter most actively at rad brown dads, still on Twitter. I have nowhere else to go. But I also have this new podcast, like I mentioned, Radio Lingo from Crooked Media and Duolingo. You can find that anywhere you find your podcast. It's also linked on my Twitter profile.

And then I would also like to plug that Eater article. I didn't say it was for Eater earlier about mangoes. It's like inside the secretive, high stakes, semi-illicit WhatsApp trade of mangoes. That's on Eater. That's the piece that I wanted James Beard for, which I still can't believe. Like still an amazing moment in my professional career. And I'm really proud of it. So, yeah, those are kind of my three things.

Please, please, you know, read them, listen to them, share them so more people can find them. There you go. Thank you for having me. It was really fun. Thanks for doing it. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Well, I had prepared media, so I was going to talk about Last of Us. Yeah, do media.

That's good. But we already talked about Last of Us. That's fine. So it's Last of Us. That's good. It's Last of Us. Yeah. Do media. That's good. But we already talked about Last of Us. That's fine. Yeah. So it's Last of Us. That's good. It's Last of Us. I mean, I can try to cram for something here.

Look back through my... You know, okay. I will say one. I do have one. I do have one. Which is Derek Guy, Dye Workwear, who is this menswear blogger. I, you know, I don't wear like suits or anything in my daily life but i am fascinated by the online traditional like young guys who wear suits that like dead guys in the 60s wore

like die work wear is this guy on twitter who has just become like like there's a lot of articles written about how he became twitter's main character and everyone is like i'm like who is this person i'm sick of seeing them. But personally, I have benefited from reading Derek Guy's stuff for years. So he's not like a random person. He's like an old internet person who has been putting in the work forever.

And I'm like, good for you that the algorithm picked you. Like, I'm defending him against the haters. I think he's been putting out great content for years. Even if you're not somebody who likes suits, he has a really interesting and open-minded perspective

on what dressing means, and I support his success. I hope he gets a TV show or something, like a reality TV show. I'm all for it. There you go. Amazing. Andrew, pleasure having you on as guest co-host. Where can people

find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Andrew T. everywhere. And yeah, if you like Yo! Is This Racist, or I guess we've had more, because my co-host Tawny Newsome on the podcast Yo! Is This Racist is also on Star Trek Lower Decks, so we

get some Star Trek people coming to our live shows now. But yeah, so if you're a Star Trek fan, if you're a whatever the hell i just did fan and you're in the bay area we're at cobs comedy club uh this saturday as part of fs sf sketch fest and yeah actually i think i recommend is also fashion related i saw this on i think twitter instagram and i guess i haven't fully vetted these folks, but their website seems to indicate they're good people. There's a group in Houston

called the Scroostin Anti-Fascist Committee, and I just bought a shirt from them that has a picture of a crocodile eating a Klansman, and the text says, Racists Ain't Safe in the Dirty South, and I'm so looking forward to this arriving.

That's so good. Amazing. Um, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien, Julia, Claire tweeted. Can someone make a deep fake of my dad apologizing to me? I just want to see what it would look like.

I think that's a good use of deep fake technology that hasn't been explored. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer Justin,

do you have a song that you think people might enjoy that we could link off to in the footnotes? I do. There's this song that you may have heard if you spent enough time in certain corners of the internet. It's blowing up pretty big. It's from a young Nigerian artist. It goes by Victony.

V-I-C-T-O-N-Y. This song is called Soweto. It's featuring Tempo. It's so good. The thing I love about this song is the versatility of it. If you want to feel like you're on a beach with the open top Jeep, it works for that. If you want to smoke a little bit on your couch, it works for that. If you want to play it while you're getting ready for a party, it works for that. It's very, very relaxing and it can take you to a bunch of it works for that it's it's very very uh relaxing and it can take you to a bunch of different places but you know it's got it's got a nice uh rhythm to it so you can move your hips and get into it so that's sueto by vic tony and tempo and you can

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