The Daily Zeitgeist - Eau Du Trump, Terminator > Oppenheimer 07.02.25

Episode Date: July 2, 2025

In episode 1889, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Pallavi Gunalan to discuss… the 'Big Beautiful Bill passing the Senate (and Elon's response), Donald Trump's new cologne, James Cameron th...rowing shade at Christopher Nolan and much more! Trump says DOGE may "go back and eat Elon" The attar of the deal: Now you can smell like Trump as president hawks perfume | The Independent James Cameron calls Christopher Nolan's 'Oppenheimer' a 'moral cop out' LISTEN - Dangerous by Surprise ChefSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I just like the when people on the internet do like the dumbest shit and they act like they found Saddam Hussein Ladies and gentlemen, we got him There's a meme that Arsenal fans use whenever we sign a new player and it's that me it's Ladies and gentlemen, we got him Ladies and gentlemen, we got them. Ladies and gentlemen, we got them. Blow sticks, blow sticks. That is so funny. Ladies and gentlemen, we got them. We got them. We got them. That is so funny ladies and gentlemen, we got we got him
Starting point is 00:00:47 we got him I Feel like this is like when like when you make it official with a dude. Yeah You call your girls We got we got him. She's sitting right there like what the fuck I'm like too late Sorry find a new, find a new angle. Find a new angle. Find a new angle, you're fucked, bro. You're fucked, bro.
Starting point is 00:01:10 We're loving each other for life, dude. Sorry, you're mine, asshole. We're married now. We're married now. I have this joke where I'm like, you can just start calling your boyfriend your husband. There's nothing he's allowed to do about it. Sorry. Sorry, dude. Sorry.
Starting point is 00:01:25 All those publishers who turned down Harry Potter all those years ago and used to be the laughing stock of the industry must be taking a little victory lap now. Yeah. Like, hey, we knew she sucked. But I missed out on $7 billion. What if they're like really sad because they were like transphobic? Yeah. Like fuck.
Starting point is 00:01:48 Oh, that was my gal. We could have been with the transphobic lady. Never gets any easier. Come back my gal. They're Jamaican. Yeah. It's weird. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:59 For the gal, dem. Me shoulda signed her. Me shoulda signed her. She went to all the Jamaican publishing presses first In the Jamaican parade, oh, yeah What if there's a version of Harry Potter that's written in that lingo Oh Pat's wow, yeah Yeah, I'm sure there has to be a Pat's why Harry Potter. Oh, yeah, Harry Pat war Harry Pat war There has to be a patois Harry Potter. Oh yeah. Harry patois. Wow. Harry patois. Fuck.
Starting point is 00:02:26 I feel like there's a way to make that work. I think you're fine buddy. Harry patois. Okay. I canceled the pod. We're just going to work on this for the next hour. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone. The boy who lived. this for the next hour. The Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone.
Starting point is 00:02:45 The boy who lived. Mr. and Mrs. Dursley will live on number four, Privet Drive, so them parole for sitting perfectly normal. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, this is perfect. That's the Sorcerer's Stone red in patois. Can you do Lord of the Rings, please? You need patois Lord of the Rings? Please? You need Patois Lord of the Rings? I need it.
Starting point is 00:03:10 American history is full of wise people. Well, women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory. Those founding fathers were gossipy AF and they loved to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history and I find the answers. Including the nuggets of wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption.
Starting point is 00:03:52 My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said, it would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Don't miss the You vs. You podcast. Join Lex Borrero every week as he sits down with some of the biggest names in entertainment to talk about the real stuff, the struggles, the doubts, and the breakthroughs that made them who they are. They go deep, covering childhood trauma, family, overcoming loss, and the moments that shaped their journey.
Starting point is 00:04:31 These honest conversations are meant to take the cape off our heroes with the hope that their humanity inspires you to become a better you and therefore set you free to live the life of your dreams. Here's a sneak peek. I'm trained to go compete. I'm trained to be like harder, but sometimes that mentality stops you from stopping and smelling the flowers in your own garden.
Starting point is 00:04:51 Is it wrong to want more? We migrated, our family migrated here. I'm like second generation. Listen to You Versus You as part of My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:05:10 Just like great shoes, great books take you places through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies. I'm Danielle Robay, and this is Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcast. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers, and more
Starting point is 00:05:35 to explore the stories that shape us, on the page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep diving book talk theories, and obsessing over book-to-screen casts for years. And now, I get to talk to the people making the magic. So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character, or cried at the last chapter, or passed a book to a friend saying, you have to read this, this podcast is for you.
Starting point is 00:06:00 Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebene, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebene, and every Tuesday, I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that will challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all, childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles, and more,
Starting point is 00:06:41 and found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant, but he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast.
Starting point is 00:06:59 It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 395, episode three of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist. It's a production of iHeartRadio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into American shared consciousness and it's Wednesday July 2nd 2025
Starting point is 00:07:32 Mm-hmm what that lies season? Hey, it's a National Wildland Firefighter Day. Wow Appropriate after that like fucking sniper shot those firefighters in Idaho Yeah, really fucked up and as somebody who has fallen victim to a wildfire shot appropriate after that like fucking sniper shot those firefighters in Idaho did you see that shit? yeah really fucked up and then somebody who has fallen victim to a wildfire shout out to firefighters you almost said was eric adams there?
Starting point is 00:07:53 hey you know somebody who's also been affected by a wildfire that's a great thing about LA fires are the new york of the wild exactly the greatest city in america you could have a wildfire or ice impersonators kidnap you. You never know. It's also National Anisette Day, which I think is something with anise in it, which I fucking
Starting point is 00:08:16 hate that flavor. Yeah, I don't like it. Fucking hate it. Anise? Yeah, I'm not. I didn't know that. I didn't even. I thought it was anise.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Anise, whatever. You said it was anise. You're're like I get why people eat ass. It's delicious. Yeah, it's delicious I feel like anise is more appropriate to how it tastes than anise Anise just sounds I feel like I also hear that like in chef shows where chefs goes and a bit of star anise And yeah, they would say that yeah fucking chefs, you know anyways No chef is what I say to Anis my name is Jack O'Brien aka blinded by the spy Act just like a douche another asshole from the right that one one courtesy of Cosmic Menad on the Discord. Shout out to you. That might be the first from Cosmic Menad that I've sung.
Starting point is 00:09:12 Or my brain just might be melting and I might have recorded way too many podcasts. But anyways, nice, classic, aka, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host. Mr. Miles Gray Grae aka the Lord of Lancashire and also guys just look up the patois Harry Potter Yeah, we're having some fun Narrated in Patois. I think it's already recorded an episode of the show. It's just None of it is usable. No, none of his usable usable so that we did that thing where we got to the end We're like we're gonna have to rerecord this. We're gonna take it from the top. Yep. All right Yeah, we thought we had finished the episode and so producer Victor trying to and said so take it from the top Jack
Starting point is 00:09:55 You want to count us in here major L. He just posts L's in the chat. Yeah That's like a chat with my family. There's just this So that was that was cute. Do you want to, are we going to actually try one now? Yeah, let's try it. Okay. I'm ready. All right. Hello. The now we can, we can keep going.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Oh, okay. Victor just wrote, Oh, we started. Oh, you call that the beginning of a podcast? Wow. Wow. Miles were thrilled to be joined by a hilarious standup comedian, writer, actor, improviser. You can catch her at the monthly
Starting point is 00:10:30 facial recognition comedy show, which she also produces. Check the footnotes for other dates. It's Polly B. Gugnale! Polly B. Gugnale! Hey, how are you? Oh, we're great. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:10:43 We're great, all things considered. No, this is fresh off the top. Oh my God. We're great all things considered. No, this is fresh off the top. Oh my God. We don't know who each other is. I love being on this new podcast I've never been on. So nice to meet you. Wow. So good to have you here. Were you a listener before or did your reps
Starting point is 00:10:58 just kind of say you should do this? Yeah, I don't know. My manager booked me on this. He said it was, you gotta do charity work every once in a while. He said, look, I've got to do some favors. No honest man can pay humble. I don't know. It'll be good for you. It'll be good for you to do a little podcast like this. You might get a little help. Yeah, you never know.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Well, Paul, we were thrilled to have you. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First we're going to tell the listeners a couple of the news stories we're talking about. We're going to check in with the BBB, the big, beautiful bill, the buy back better, build back better, big, beautiful bill. Whatever it is. You need the three B's. It passed the Senate and Elon Musk is getting nervous. And so he's rekindled his fight with Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:11:57 War of words is happening. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about, there's a new cologne from the person that you least want to smell like in the world. Donald Trump has dropped a new cologne on all of our asses. And we just want to take a look back at like what he allegedly smells like and also look at this new commercial from the President of the United States. What he allegedly smells like is a wild statement. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I mean, it's from somebody who is in a room with him who has nothing to gain or lose. It was just like, yeah, it's like, he smells bad. Here's, here's what it, here's what it is. Um, so we'll talk about that. We'll talk about James Cameron, all of that. James Cameron in 3d James experience him in 3d is he he's planning to make something that's not an avatar movie Maybe like a child or something. I don't know. Yeah all of that plenty more But first probably we do like to ask our guest. What is something from your search history?
Starting point is 00:13:02 Okay, typical dog mom, right? I'm constantly Googling, can my dog eat blank? Today it was idli, like the South Indian food. I was like, can dogs eat idli? What is idli? It's like, I don't even know how to describe it, but it's delicious. It's South Indian.
Starting point is 00:13:21 It's made from like lentils and stuff, like rice and other things, but it's really good. If you haven't been to a South Indian restaurant, you gotta go to like a Oduppee's or like a Woodlands or something, get you some idlis and dosa, some good breakfast comfort food. Okay, okay.
Starting point is 00:13:44 Yeah, wait, is this kind of like dosas? Yeah, you make it from like kind of the same batter, but it's like in a different format. But yeah, it's delicious. And I had to, my big dog liked it, and my little dog wouldn't eat it until my little dog saw the big dog eating it. And then he was like, okay, I'll try this.
Starting point is 00:14:03 You don't have to talk about Jack and I like that. We don't, when I recognize the big dog, hey, my big dog right there, my little dog saw the big dog eating it. And then he was like, okay, I'll try this. You don't have to talk about Jack and I like that. We don't, when I recognize the big dog, hey, my big dog right here, my little dog right here. My little dog's a yapper, you know, he's always- Yo, he a yapper. He got the yapping on 10. Yeah. Get it, Miles, get it.
Starting point is 00:14:17 So you can- So it is safe, it is dog safe. It says it's dog safe. I don't know if that's just Indian people being like, the dog's family, give it is safe. It is dog safe. It says it's dog safe. I don't know if that's just Indian people being like the dog's family. Give it to Italy. I have no idea. But they ate it. But I'm constantly Googling. Can my dog eat this?
Starting point is 00:14:34 And I'm like Googling the same shit twice. The dogs are just staring at me like, let me eat it. As long as it is as it is plain idli with no masala or chutney powder on it whatsoever Garlic and onion and stuff and you know, we use that seasoning we like right like our seasonings, you know I don't know. I've every time I've had Indian food. It's very it's very dull I'm very dull. Put us in a breakout room. Just give me five minutes Holy shit. I'm not, do you guys use spices in cooking? Five minutes long.
Starting point is 00:15:04 I don't know, there's a spicy sort of, okay, interesting, interesting. I mean, yeah, it could use some mayo for sure. Oh God, that really hurt my feeling. Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry, cream cheese, okay. Cream cheese, is that better? Cream cheese and Velveeta, like, I'm just saying, this stuff would fit
Starting point is 00:15:24 really nicely into a casserole. Little cream cheese cheese and Velveeta. I'm just saying the stuff would fit really nicely into a casserole. Little cream cheese, little Velveeta. We're sprinkling corn flakes on top. Is that a thing? We're putting it into a casserole dish. I'm learning so much about white culture. Midwestern cooking.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Shout out to Midwestern. I always, yeah. I know salads aren't salads. I know that's true. Whenever I have a, yeah, whenever I have a Vindaloo curry, I always have to put like Thousand Island on it just to kind of bring the flavor out of it. I'm gonna, no, guys, this is like genuinely disturbing.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Like, it really is upsetting. Can you imagine? I was like, it's even hard for me to say that. It's like a horror movie. It's gonna be like Smile, but it's like Curry. And it's just like thousand island. I need mayo chop on this. Chicken tikka masala casserole is one of my favorites.
Starting point is 00:16:11 So you actually just take a block of Philadelphia cream cheese, you melt it, you put the chicken tikka masala around it and then it just like kind of melts. It's mainly cream cheese. You know there's some white bitch on TikTok who married into an Indian family and is already making these recipes.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Exactly. And it's like- Her cousin married into an Indian family. In a sari with a bindi. She's like, look, I'm exotic. You're gonna love my four alarm beef chili doll. She's putting like Indian oils in her hair. It's like fully dripping.
Starting point is 00:16:44 She doesn't know what she's doing Staining all her clothes. Yeah All right, what is something Paula do you think is underrated underrated? personal space my god, I feel like There's too much. I feel like we have too many, the housing crisis is just pissing me off. I have too many friends who are like, yeah, I'm living with a nightmare
Starting point is 00:17:10 and I just have to do that in my 30s and 40s. And I'm just gonna deal with that because of rent and I'm just gonna go home and hate every second of my life. So I feel like we gotta do something. There's too many, like all the, everybody's inside when it's like super hot and it's just everybody stepping on each other, you know? Many more personal states.
Starting point is 00:17:38 We talking roommates, we talking exes that they're still living with. I know all of you, but when you have to live with an ex, that's like, I feel like you should be able to go to like court and bring your ex and be like, see? Yeah. Like, I gotta win this case against my landlord. Cause look at this guy.
Starting point is 00:17:57 Just gestures broadly in his direction. They're like, this is why I should also get the same grandfathered in rent that my ex does because I Got it. I gotta get out of here, please. Yeah, I knew people actually when I was in NorCal I knew people who lived in the same house because they were they were like Divorced but they had a kid so the kid got or the same apartment. So the kid got the one they had to share a bed I was like that is too much. We can't do this Hold on the divorce couple shared a bed
Starting point is 00:18:31 They could only afford a two-bedroom and they gave their their kid who was like a teen their own bedroom And then they had a share a bed and I'm like none one of us has got to die Anytime your justification for your living situation is, well, in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, that family was able to do it, make it work. So I don't see why. I feel like all the grandparents had like a toe fetish. That's my theory. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Just kind of looking. Oh yeah, they were just tickling each other's toes with their toes. Were they head to toe? Like, were the other, weren't they feet to feet? Like, could one of the grandparents just licked, like, reached their head over and like got Like, were the other, weren't they feet to feet? Like, could a one of the grandparents just licked out, like, reached their head over and like got a lick of the other, like, mm-mm-mm. Yeah. I think bed, I think the foots of the bed were pushed together.
Starting point is 00:19:14 So it was like, they were toe to toe, is how I remember it. Oh, I thought they were in like the same bed. No, no, no. They could have, they could have, they could have been sucking toes at night. Oh, they were head to toe? Look at this, yo. The fever right there. No, but they definitely, oh, they could have been sucking toes at night. Oh, they were head to toe? Look at this, yo. The fever right there. Oh, I see, they're stacked like-
Starting point is 00:19:30 Grandpa Charlie could have been fooling around. Yeah. Yeah. Under the blankets. So one person, they're stacked like head to toe, kind of. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like foot in the armpit of the person next to you, essentially. At that point, if I'm in a bed and you're near my foot,
Starting point is 00:19:48 you gotta massage it. I'm sorry. There's no. Yeah. What are we even doing? What are we doing? Not even essentially, but just, you know, just give me something, some pressure along the arches or something. Come on, just lay your head down.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Give me some arch-presh. Yeah. This is the planter fasciitis agenda. That's right. the planter fasciitis agenda. Big planter fasch, big fasch, you know, what what's something you think is overrated, probably. You know how like we as a generation rebelled against like all of the little like knickknacks and like, you know, how they have this theory that because there were so many like home remodeling things that were like themed homes or whatever,
Starting point is 00:20:28 now we're all like minimalist and like we're all like millennial gray and minimalist and stuff. I feel like it's overrated to have an apartment that doesn't look like lived in, you know what I mean? I'm like, it's clear I have dogs in my place. So like too clean of an apartment, it weirds me out. I'm like, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:20:51 Where are you actually sleeping? Our current aesthetic seems to primarily be a reaction to TGI Fridays. There are like too many goddamn knickknacks all over the place. I want this to look like an Apple store. I'm always freaked out when I go to someone's house and their kitchen counters, there's nothing on their kitchen counters and like they live there and they like, they just like
Starting point is 00:21:09 that. I mean, maybe that's a taste thing, but I also see that aesthetic a lot where people like, no, like you like to have everything hidden and just a clear kitchen. Hide everything. I mean, I like putting things away and not having too many things out, but like it gets to a point where you're like, I like having counter space, I like putting things away and not having too many things out, but like it gets to a point where you're like, I like having counter space, I guess. But it gets to a point where you're like, is this Kim Kardashian's house?
Starting point is 00:21:33 Like, what is this? I feel like the Kim Kardashian house was the peak of this trend. And now we're like, we're at the part where that trend is waning a little bit. Yeah. And we're going to see it like move back to a time. We had the great Chris Crofton on as a guest last week and we were looking back at a like piece of raw footage from a Playboy Mansion party from the eighties. And the most shocking thing to me was how like, other than like all the just like weird.
Starting point is 00:22:10 What do you mean by raw? Like uncut footage? Or you? Just like it wasn't like a news. Unedited, B-roll. It hadn't been edited into a newscast. It was just like B-roll. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:21 Got it, got it. No, not that kind of raw. But it, like the house just looked like it had, there were knickknacks everywhere. It looked like a house from the eighties. Like they're just, they just had shit everywhere. You know, they, it had not seen an interior decorator, you know, or if it had the interior decorator was like, you know, we should put more knit. More curios. More things that suggest.
Starting point is 00:22:49 More by curios here. Yeah. That's right. Can you put a bunch of Venetian glass on this counter? Yes. Yes. All Venetian glass. I know you don't knit, but I want to suggest that you do. I want so many things that have been knit.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Let's yarn bomb this home. Yeah, yarn bomb. It had been yarn bombed. There's yarn, sayings knitted into framed things on the wall. There are just pillows everywhere. That's all of these familial perverts. I love that. Quaint old familial perverts. I love that. Quaint old familial perversion. The messages that were sort of embroidered into those are a little grim though. One said, there's no way you get out of here. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Yeah. Another one just said, shh. I don't know. Just it reeked of sexual predation. If stains could talk, they would say. That was one of them that said if stains could talk. Yeah, one of them was if stains could talk with an arrow pointing down at the couch.
Starting point is 00:23:47 Yeah, so I agree with this. How knickknacky we talking about. We going all the way to paddywhack? Not all the way to paddy. Maybe paddy, you know, I don't know about whacking. This old man come rolling home? Like, I just like, I'm like, you know what? As I've been living in my apartment longer
Starting point is 00:24:03 and like in a relationship and doing all these things, I'm like, I get like a little thing here and there from like a trip or whatever. And I'm like, I'm not super consumer materialist or whatever, but it is nice to have things that remind you of good memories and like things that you love and stuff. So I think that's cute. I grabbed knickknacks on trips that I can use as a Christmas ornament. That's how I kind of keep it contained. So I'm like, okay, I got something from the trip. It doesn't have to be big.
Starting point is 00:24:31 It's like something tiny, like whatever. And even if it's not- So it's always a fishing lure? Yeah. It's gotta have a hook on it. Unfortunately, that is a little bit limiting. Sorry, sorry, babe. Another one.
Starting point is 00:24:43 This one looks cool. It's like. Another one. This one looks cool. It's like a silverfish. This one looks like a dang fish. Yeah, no, but like that's, or like, you know, we'll have like a wine cork and just put a paper clip in it and be like, there you go. There's our Christmas ornament from this.
Starting point is 00:24:55 And then you hang it all up during Christmas and you're like, I got to grind so hard to go on vacation next year. This is a reminder of all the hustle I have to do. And then I go, oh God, all I do, all we do is drink wine everywhere. I just drink carbonated fucking wine. They're like, it's all wine. You've cork bombed your tree. Sorry, sorry, mom. You just think I'm having drinking problems because my Christmas tree looks
Starting point is 00:25:18 sick as fuck. And then look, it's just all drippy corks. They used to have plastic bottle caps of pop off vodka. Just in my. Oh, they just heat up with a nail to put a hole in it. Yeah. Yeah. Here we go. It looks like you're doing drugs. They're like, no, it's much worse. It's actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:41 That's all you can afford. Six dollar bottles of vodka from rated. Is your drink that brandy Twaka? Twaka? Yeah, T-U-A-C-A. That was another grindy. Just like very cheap. Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:25:54 Oof. Yeah, I used to, less than a decade ago, I was buying vodka from Rite Aid. So that's their brand. That's where I was. I was not Rite Aid. So that's their brand. That's where I was. I was not right If they sold it Ice cream brand called thrifty thrifty box because it used to be thrifty Thrifty pharmacies is what it's based off of the thrifty ice cream parlor Sorry, I'm old. I remember thrifty ice cream
Starting point is 00:26:22 I've never had the Rite Aid ice cream. Oh yeah, chocolate malted crunch. That's my favorite. That's my shit. For like that gross ass pharmacy ice cream, chocolate malted crunch every time. I caught that shit. I do like the Rite Aid is sticking with it. They're like, we're just like a local neighborhood pharmacy. It's like, you couldn't be further from that. They lock up like the cones with pre-made cones and buy little black things.
Starting point is 00:26:45 You're like, can I get the chocolate before it melts? They're like, yeah, can we hold onto your ID while we scoop it? Yeah. What? Are you scooping? All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back. We'll talk about some news.
Starting point is 00:27:00 We'll be right back. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. American history is full of wise people. Well, women said something like, you know, 99.99% of war is diarrhea and 1% is gory. Those founding fathers were gossipy AF, and they loved to cut each other down. I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, the show where you send us your questions about American history and I find the answers, including the nuggets of
Starting point is 00:27:34 wisdom our history has to offer. Hamilton pauses and then he says, the greatest man that ever lived was Julius Caesar. And Jefferson writes in his diary, this proves that Hamilton is for a dictator based on corruption. My favorite line was what Neil Armstrong said, it would have been harder to fake it than to do it. Listen to American history hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. They go deep, covering childhood trauma, family, overcoming loss, and the moments that shape their journey.
Starting point is 00:28:28 These honest conversations are meant to take the cape off our heroes, with the hope that their humanity inspires you to become a better you, and therefore set you free to live the life of your dreams. Here's a sneak peek. I'm trained to go compete. I'm trained to be like harder. But sometimes that mentality stops you from stopping and smelling the flowers in your own garden. Is it wrong to want more? We migrated, our family migrated here. I'm like second generation. Listen to You Versus You as part of My Kultura podcast network. Available on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Just like great shoes, great books take you places. Through unforgettable love stories and into conversations with characters you'll never forget. I think any good romance, it gives me this feeling of like butterflies.
Starting point is 00:29:19 I'm Danielle Robay and this is Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, the new podcast from Hello Sunshine and iHeart Podcasts. Every week I sit down with your favorite book lovers, authors, celebrities, book talkers, and more to explore the stories that shape us, on the page and off. I've been reading every Reese's Book Club pick, deep diving book talk theories, and obsessing over book to screen casts for years. And now I get to talk to the people making the magic. So if you've ever fallen in love with a fictional character
Starting point is 00:29:49 or cried at the last chapter or passed a book to a friend saying you have to read this, this podcast is for you. Listen to Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebene, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebene, and every Tuesday, I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that will challenge
Starting point is 00:30:19 your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all, childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles, and more, and found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house. Yes, he was a drug dealer. Yes, he was a confidential informant,
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Starting point is 00:31:10 to your favorite shows. And we're back. Let's talk about the big beautiful bill. Yeah. So you heard on Trends yesterday that the Senate version of the- Was that you describing trends, the trends that you missed? Oh, yeah, maybe. Maybe skip out on it, it was kind of a fart. No, I think I was just maybe just,
Starting point is 00:31:35 I just, again, the Senate has passed their version of the let's kick millions of people off of healthcare and then turbo charge the ice stoppable budget bill. And it just fucking barely squeaked by as Susan Collins, Tom Tillis and Rand Paul joined the Democrats to force a tie breaking vote from the local man who is banned from most furniture stores, otherwise known as JD Vance. Lisa Murkowski was toying with the idea of voting against it. It's like, I don't know. I mean, this looks bad. This looks bad.
Starting point is 00:32:08 And there could have been a moment where she could have been a fucking hero or not, or just did the bare minimum. And it was like, yeah, this is so fucked up. I'm not going to have my name attached to this as a yes vote. But in the end, it was it was dear Susan Collins of Maine that decided to step up. How are they still like, I just remember Collins and Murkowski fucking things up for what feels like decades. Oh yeah, they continue to.
Starting point is 00:32:31 How are they still wobbly? They constantly sort of like trade the role of being the sort of tormented Republican who like might do something, but then doesn't, or just being local concerned Senator. I'm very concerned about this and I will support it. But here we are. In the end, it doesn't really matter.
Starting point is 00:32:53 Exactly. But again, it now has to go to the House and that's gonna be a huge fight because you have people who are like, they're completely against adding a single more dollar to the deficit. But again, the MAGA cult will probably take over and it potentially will pass by July 4th.
Starting point is 00:33:11 But anyway, while that happens and while the senators were deliberating and debating, Elon Musk fucking reignited the feud with Mr. Donald and was doing everything in his power, or at least in the power of shit posting on Twitter to try and dissuade senators from supporting this. He said he would first of all, like in the house, because Thomas Massey is a Republican congressperson who's run afoul of MAGA because he's like, no, this is too much waste. I can't fucking deal with this. I thought we're
Starting point is 00:33:40 spending less on poor people and now we're giving worse. We're ballooning the bill for what? we're spending less on poor people and now we're giving, we're ballooning the bill for what? Basically, Elon Musk was like, I will back you, bro. Don't worry, I got your back financially. I got you. Fight these people. Would I lie? Would I lie?
Starting point is 00:33:54 Who knows? But not this time. Musk also threatened to primary every Republican who backs the bill. We'll see if that actually happens. Yeah, because that worked really well with that judge election or whatever in Wisconsin. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:34:07 He, look, he tries, he says things, but that's about it. Trump, meanwhile, clapped back by saying he would basically have to sick the Doge crew on Elon's contracts. He's got that Doge in him. He's got that Doge in him. He's got that Doge up him. He's got to have the Doge in him now. He's going to have the Doge on him. Now he's gonna have the doge on him.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Yeah. What do you think about that, Elon? He said he was basically gonna like, we'll save a ton of money. This is what he posted on Truth Social, quote, Elon may get more subsidy than any human being in history by far and without subsidies, Elon would probably have to close up shop
Starting point is 00:34:38 and head back home to South Africa. No more rocket launches, satellites, or electric car production. And our country would save a fortune. He also basically said he might have to look at- Damn, go back to where you came from. Yeah, he was also saying like, yeah, we might have to look at deporting or denaturalization for Elon.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Again, this is all who knows because I'm sure Trump also wants his money. It's like such a dumb will they won't they? But meanwhile, Tesla stock fell on Tuesday morning after this back and forth, and I guess wiped out an estimated $7 billion of Musk's worth, whatever that even means. I mean, I don't even know. It's probably no, it's nothing probably, but it's just-
Starting point is 00:35:14 It's just nice to know he's in pain. Every time my money disappears, I'd love a little bit of his money to disappear, you know? Right. It's like when that disappears, we should all get a little bit of money rained down. Like, where does that, can I, can we get some of that seven billion?
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah, where did it go? Give it back. I don't understand stock market. Give it to us. But anyway, this was, I think, the fight we've all been predicting would happen, that, you know, none of these people can keep their word. Trump famously will just, you know, do a fucking full 180 on people
Starting point is 00:35:42 that were quote unquote loyal to him. It's not clear what this actually means for Elon Musk, but I, because I think he's also just a pump faker like Trump is, but the ego is a dangerous thing. So most rich man plus ego plus drugs may be equal sloppiness in the future. But, um, what is clear as the house, you know, sort of deliberates over, uh, getting the house or the, uh, getting their version of the big beautiful bill across the line, all of the fucking polling shows, even Fox News is polling that clear majorities of people are not approving this spending and tax break bill for billionaires. Because I think maybe on some level they do understand that this is a huge threat to their
Starting point is 00:36:23 medical care and also just to like healthcare systems in general who need these kinds of funds along with all the other shit like the, again, turbocharged ice budget. So they're managing to cut money for people who need it while also just like requiring way more money, like adding more money to the federal deficit. Yeah, because they're like, well, we gotta keep the billionaire tax cuts intact.
Starting point is 00:36:46 So to offset all that lost money that we would get from tax revenues, let's just spend maybe like 800 billion less on Medicaid. It's the kind of other... I don't know, say 800 billion less, let's call it. Yeah, let's call it that. This is nuts. I feel like, hasn't this happened before where like they've tried to cut the ACA and like people like working class people were like, oh, I hate Obamacare, but I love ACA.
Starting point is 00:37:15 And then they were like rudely awakened to what that means. Like are people waking up to this shit? Like, I noticed like the town halls and stuff before they ended them, people were having a lot of feedback. Right. But like. I mean, people are saying it. I think it just, I just don't think they care. I noticed like the town halls and stuff before they ended them people were having a lot of feedback, but like I mean people are saying it. I think it just I just don't think they I just don't think they care like I don't know if this polling really matters because You know when you think about ice that's basically going to become trump's secret police
Starting point is 00:37:38 so They it's like well who gives a fuck at this point like well They're already threatening journalists, like especially for publishing that Iranian call where they were like, those bombs really didn't do shit, man. Oh my God. The White House is like, we need to look this up.
Starting point is 00:37:54 These people are a threat to our quote unquote democracy or whatever the fuck you wanna call this shit now. Watching ICE like grab people and like hearing, like I saw a video of like a pastor being like, these are my people who come to my church, like they're in it, like, what are you doing? And he's like, I know you're doing your job, but like, this is so wrong. And watching them like, post up, I'm like, this is like, these people are so evil, like so walking amongst dust evil. It is insane. So like, I don't know how we fight them man on man.
Starting point is 00:38:28 We just impersonate ice to. Yeah, we can just be the Spider-Man meme. You know, we just grab the ice guys off the. Yeah. So you come with me. I'm ice. They're like, I'm ice. No, you're not. Is that what you're bad? Let me see your badge. Isn't like a large number of like ice or border patrol, like they're Latino too, right?
Starting point is 00:38:46 Like, so that would be like, that's like an insane thing. Yeah, but now, but now like, you know, people don't, there's so many unidentified fucking people in plain clothes. You don't know who is who, comes from where. Are these bounty hunters? Are these just fucking LARPers? Because there's already been, there was a dude in-
Starting point is 00:39:02 Are they fucking criminals? Are they people who are just looking to abduct somebody? Yes, that's happened. That's happened. Yes, in Houston, there was a guy who tried to rob a dude and his wife came out with the blammer and they shot the fucking guy who was trying to impersonate ICE. He's like, get on the ground.
Starting point is 00:39:16 He's like, this is a robbery, run your shit. And then they exchanged gunfire. And then there was another guy in Philadelphia who also came through trying to rob a business and saying immigration, immigration, he got arrested. So there are a lot of people who are now, you know, they've, it's clear, all you gotta do is pull up with a gun and a face mask and a tack vest to yell police.
Starting point is 00:39:39 And then maybe people will just reflectively come with you. Just arrested somebody who they found this car parked in a handicap spot without any handicap lights. And so they took a closer look and were like, oh, it's a undercover police car because there are police lights on the inside. And he has the different police radios. Turns out it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:40:01 It was just a guy who was pretending to be ICE. He had a bunch of fake credentials and shit. He had been arrested before for human smuggling. The only reason they found him is because he decided to park illegally. But otherwise, yeah, this was just somebody who was going around listening to police radio and using the cover of ICE, you know, wearing masks and refusing to identify themselves to, presumably he was going to kidnap people
Starting point is 00:40:36 and do whatever he wanted with them. That's so crazy. Yeah, the guy in Philadelphia had like a, like a white van with no windows too. It was all all fucking it's again this is like kind of the fear that exactly that they want because in LA purge man nobody feels safe in LA especially not people of color at this point because it's not just I know a lot of the focus like it like has been on
Starting point is 00:40:58 people from like Mexico or El Salvador Guatemala or South America Central America but it's still it's's, they're Asian people, they're Asian American people who are getting swept off the street, African people, Caribbean people, it's fucking anybody. And the, all, dude, so many of my friends in LA, they're not leaving the house, they're like, you know, my Mexican friends who are like telling their parents not to leave the house, even though they are citizens, they're like, we just don't even want you to get fucking caught up in anything just because it just feels so fucking tenuous right now. This is why I'd like to implement what I call my white face program with just three easy payments. Everybody walk around in white face. Learn how to do white face.
Starting point is 00:41:44 Everyone should just be going out white chicks makeup now. They're like, officer, what are you talking about? This is bullshit. Our lives improve significantly in other ways we can't even imagine. We're like, what the fuck? So guys, when you have a disagreement with somebody and they win the argument, you repeat after me. Okay, fair enough.
Starting point is 00:42:02 Okay, fair enough. Wow. That was, Polly, that was really good. Congratulations. Thank you so much. I'm just playing devil grab. There you go, you are now the CEO. Meet our new chief financial officer of Apple. Great job in there, Linda.
Starting point is 00:42:20 Yeah, thanks. Thank you. I brought raisins for the macaroni. Is that right? Am I doing it right? You're nailing it. You're nailing it. You're nailing it.
Starting point is 00:42:33 I brought raisins. Just keeps offering raisins for various things. And each one, everyone's like, oh my God, perfect. Ribs. Is that chicken? I have raisins if you'd like some. I don't know about you guys, but this Vindaloo could use a little more
Starting point is 00:42:49 Thousand Island dressing on it. Too far, too far. I don't like it. Okay, okay. Okay. In this household, we have salt, pepper, and raisins in the middle of the dinner table. It's like in a dispenser.
Starting point is 00:43:01 You just sprinkle them on. Yeah, yeah. You're like, fresh ground raisins. You sprinkle them on. Yeah, yeah. You're like, Fresh ground raisins. You sprinkle them on. Like a pepper grinder. And then bread and butter and then also Philadelphia cream cheese.
Starting point is 00:43:12 There's just bags of butter noodles in the fridge. That's right. Fresh, fresh hot dogs. Oh, God. Just pulling some hot dogs out. Hey, speaking of hot dogs. Yeah. Let's talk about somebody who smells like hot dogs.
Starting point is 00:43:25 And for the low price of $250 a bottle, you can also smell like hot dogs. Or I don't know, I haven't smelled it. I don't know how accurate to real life this is, but the most hot dog smelling looking human of all time, Donald Trump is selling a scent, a signature scent called Fight, Fight, Fight. I'm just imagining the Allie Luke's meme of her going, no, this time it's fine. It's fine this time to do.
Starting point is 00:43:56 Which one's that one? Allie Luke's is the one who did her PhD on like smells in society or whatever. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And like they post that meme anytime somebody tries to shame other people for how they smell. But I'm just imagining her going, no, this is good. Keep doing it.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Let's keep the pressure up. Yeah, so this is the fucking commercial that Donald Trump is now in selling shit spray. Migrants are here. They make a great Christmas present. I've named them Fight Fight Fight because they represent winning. We all want to be winning. We have to win as a nation. We want to win as a family. This fragrance is all about strength and success and confidence
Starting point is 00:44:35 for men and for women. Get yourself a bottle and don't forget to grab one for your loved ones too. They'll thank you and they'll even smell good. Enjoy, have fun, keep on winning and Merry Christmas. It's just Donald Trump. When did this come out? Bathwater. Yeah, when did this come out? Merry Christmas. It says June 30th. Yeah, like it's hitting the news on like July 1st. So I don't know if it's been in the lab for a little while and like they just got him around Christmas or if he's just anticipating that this is gonna like be the hottest new Christmas present.
Starting point is 00:45:12 The bottle looks like, it looks like he's like, I should win an Oscar. And they were like, here you go, sir. Cause it's just like a man in a business suit, like a gold man in a business suit, essentially. You think? Yeah, and I thought that was Trump, but it can't be because this figure is standing upright and it's not doing the trademark, any are you okay? Wait, that'd be so sick if there was the trademark lean bottle.
Starting point is 00:45:37 I know, the smooth criminal. I might get the bottle if there was like a dude balanced, it's like the Michael Jackson one. Exactly, just the smooth criminal lean. Yeah. Well, there the website for it is very clear. Okay. Cause most of us are like, isn't this completely unethical, illegal, bad conflict of interest? But the website makes it clear quote, Trump fragrances are not designed, manufactured, distributed or sold by Donald J Trump. Because it's a branding deal. Again, it also says the vendor promises quote, a tribute to the Trump legacy.
Starting point is 00:46:08 It is not political and has nothing to do with any political campaign. Okay, Jesus Christ. That's how you basically pretend it's okay. But hey, how is this legal? We don't know because what is legal anymore? We don't know. What is smell?
Starting point is 00:46:22 What is good smell? What is bad smell? And they'll even smell good. What is perfume? He What is bad smell? And they'll even smell good. What is perfume? He says in the thing. And they'll even smell good. All right. Next one. I'm just like amazed by the fact that it's called fight, fight, fight. Like perfumes are always about like, like mysteriousness and like.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Myster is a good name for a. Myster. Myster. Myster. I think that's a Cirque du Soleil show actually in Vegas. Or yeah, mystere. It was, I think. Am I?
Starting point is 00:46:48 They will drop, they'll take a classy word and then drop a syllable. Yeah. Allure. Dimong instead of diamond. Yeah. And he's like, fight, fucking fight, fight, fight. Ah, fuck.
Starting point is 00:47:00 This is so weird. He's even like, trashifying that. The classiest thing that you can imagine is what sixth graders yell every time somebody pushes somebody on the playground. Why, why? The newest one is actually Victory 4547. That's the one with the lean, the man, the golden man on top. 250.
Starting point is 00:47:21 Okay, problematic age gap. Wow, 4547? I know, I know. Hey, let love win, let love win is what I say. The person who, the gold guy is putting all his weight on one of his legs, which is very American, as we talked about yesterday. Queen, the diva, drop that leg, bitch.
Starting point is 00:47:41 Show him the romance. I do. I need this commentary all the time. And bend and snap, bitch. We do have a report from, who is it again? Adam Kinzinger. Yeah, Kinzinger, who talked about what it smells like around Donald Trump, what Donald it smells like around Donald Trump,
Starting point is 00:48:05 what Donald Trump smells like. He said, quote, so if you take like armpits, ketchup, makeup, and a little butt, it's probably like that all mixed up. The detail surprisingly- That's a beautiful rhyme. That grosses me out the most is the specificity
Starting point is 00:48:19 of the ketchup because like ketchup, for being delicious, and I do like ketchup, like on a burger. Ketchup is an all time terrible smell. Like we had ketchup spill in a cooler and like, I like that fucked up the use of that cooler forever more because not only does it like smell bad after the fact, but then it like, it can, it's a smell that like infects other smells. Doesn't catch up also like staying concrete? Isn't that a thing?
Starting point is 00:48:48 Like that totally makes sense. I feel like that's a thing we used to be aware of when we would like TP houses in like middle school. Right. Low stakes, spray spray paint. It's like just catch up the driveway. Yeah. I don't know at the time why I didn't fear for my life while eating it after that. But.
Starting point is 00:49:07 Yeah. Yeah, can stain a driveway. Wow. Pigments and acidity and ketchup can penetrate the material leading to discoloration. Okay. Okay. That's right, bitch.
Starting point is 00:49:17 That's right. I know how to just like TP a house. Are you being allowed to say TP? Yeah, I know it's right, bitch. I know how to toilet paper a house. Yeah, yeah. Why would you not be allowed to TP? It's more just uncouth talking about toilet paper and a house. Because you allowed to say TP? I don't have to toilet paper a house. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's more just uncouth to talk about toilet papering a house.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Because I was thinking the wrong spelling. Oh, okay. Yeah, it's more uncouth because you're revealing how privileged you are by throwing toilet paper willingly. So nobody agrees that ketchup smells like shit? No, I agree. Okay. Jucky's like hates ketchup, he hates eating it
Starting point is 00:49:42 and like if I'm eating it near him, he like gags No He can't handle like the smell of it. Oh weird. I'd rather smell like mustard for sure like DJ mustard Yeah, muster Dabbing my armpits with relish in the morning. I'm like, I'm American Don't tell me she's tough, but I like that's the other way Hey leave this white woman alone. That's the other way. This white woman. Hey, leave this white woman alone.
Starting point is 00:50:07 She's using relish on her armpits. She smells terrible. She passed the test. She smells awful. Look, I didn't wash my legs. You just have one of those water bottles, but it's full of ketchup. That's the way to full ice.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I mean, out of context, ketchup, the things that really catch me out of context is like broccoli. When you're like, what the fuck is that? And you're like, oh, it's raw broccoli. You know what I mean? Oh, Brussels sprouts. That smells like farts.
Starting point is 00:50:32 Can it too? Oh, that and Parmesan. Out of context Parmesan cheese. When you put it in a car like leftovers, it smells so bad. But it tastes so good. Broccoli too. Broccoli can kind of,
Starting point is 00:50:43 you can kind of leave a bit of funk without the context. You're like, this, I think something. So can the alternate version of what broccoli means. Oh, yes. Oh, my bad. We're talking about that loud. I'd rather smell like Parmesan than ketchup, personally. You'd rather smell like Parmesan?
Starting point is 00:50:54 No, you'd rather smell like Parmesan. Yeah, I know that's. Those aren't the choices. You could smell good. Nope. I've got, I'm committed. I'm going to smell like Parmesan. I'm going to smell like Parmesan.
Starting point is 00:51:02 I'm going to smell like Parmesan. I'm going to smell like Parmesan. I'm going to smell like Parmesan. I'm going to smell like Parmesan. I'm going to smell like Parmesan. I'm going to smell like Parmesan. I'm going to smell like parmesan? No, you'd rather smell like parmesan. Those aren't the choices. You can smell good. Nope. I've got... I'm committed. I'm going to smell like parmesan. It feels like a parmesan day. Yeah. Shaking some parmesan on my head.
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Starting point is 00:55:20 Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. And we're back. And James Cameron is working on a non-avatar film. Yeah. That we know is not gonna get made because it does not begin with A or T, like literally every one of his other movies.
Starting point is 00:55:50 But he is drowning Kate Winslet, so that's fun. Yeah, she is playing a Japanese woman in this film, I think. I think Scarlett Johansson is also cast to be a woman from Hiroshima in this film. Wait, I just had the idea of someone who's trying to become immune to drowning by drinking a little bit of water every day. Micro dosing drowning. You can't die from it if it's a part of you. My skin is really cleared up.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Yeah, exactly. Just a little bit of poison exposure. But what about drowning? I don't know about that. But the film that he's working on is called Ghosts of Hiroshima based on the book about the atomic bombs that were dropped on Japan in World War II. And he was asked about Christopher Nolan's Oppenheimer
Starting point is 00:56:33 and James Cameron decided to take some shots at the boy, quote, look, I love filmmaking. I love filmmaking. Look, I love filmmaking. But I did feel that it was a bit of a moral cop out because it's not like Oppenheimer didn't know the effects. He's got one brief scene in the film where we see, and I don't like to criticize another
Starting point is 00:56:50 filmmaker's film, but here I go, but there's only one brief moment where he sees some charred bodies in the audience and then the film goes on to show how it deeply moved him. But I felt that it dodged the subject. I don't know whether the studio or Chris felt that that was a third rail that they didn't want to touch, but I want to go straight out the third rail. I'm just stupid. I guess I'm just stupid like that. Look at that white boy. Go white boy, go! But I'm like, oh okay, the guy who loves his colonizer sci-fi white savior porn narratives. Yeah, okay. Don't forget beastiality. Why did their tails have to touch like that? Why did they?
Starting point is 00:57:28 It doesn't feel right. Let me just get that in. Every time you have to bump iPhones to airdrop something. You're reminded of the avatar connection. Trauma. Yeah. Also like, I love filmmaking. I never criticize other, that's like your number one gig, dude. You're like, you love criticize other that's like your number one gig, dude. You know, you love criticizing other film.
Starting point is 00:57:46 I think like I think the reason James Cameron kind of feels that way is because he was like, remember that scene in Terminator 2 where I'm like, bro, you don't know how bad atomic bombs could go. You could be at a park with your kid. And next thing you know, you're a fucking skeleton hanging onto a chain link fence asking for your little boy to not be burned up. This shit was so metal.
Starting point is 00:58:06 Yeah, it was. I feel like I feel like that was my entire idea of what a nuclear explosion looked like for still is basically to this point. Well, you certainly haven't been to the Hiroshima Memorial Museum like I was many times as a kid and you saw melting through that museum fucked me up as a kid You know in Japan like that's just some shit like that's a cultural thing you go to and I remember it There are like these like wax figures and shit that were really trying to show you like what the fucking Intensity of an atomic bomb did to a person's skin. It was not Terminator 2
Starting point is 00:58:43 Yeah, but he did go, this is where then James Cameron sort of continues his quote. He goes, quote, I don't want to get into the politics of, you know, should it have been dropped? Should they have done it? And all the bad things Japan did to warrant it or any of that kind of moralizing and politicizing. Are you kidding me?
Starting point is 00:59:01 What the fuck? I'm doing a political film and I don't want to get into the politics of it. That's insane. This is what's so funny. This guy just goes, I don't know if he's trying to dodge a bullet. Look, I'm not trying to like say like why Japan deserved it. Or any of that stuff. War crimes aside and the terrible acts of the Japanese Imperial Army, like do the people
Starting point is 00:59:25 in those areas deserve to be vaporized by a nuclear weapon? They are all the same. I just want to deal in a sense with like what happened, almost as if you could somehow be there and survive and see it. I just think it's so important right now for people to remember what these weapons do. This is the only case where they've been used against a human target, setting aside all the politics and the fact that, you know, I'm going to make a film about Japanese people. I don't even speak Japanese.
Starting point is 00:59:53 Although I have a lot of friends there. I'm no weeb, but setting aside. He kind of like drifts off there, setting aside all the politics and the fact that I'm gonna make a film about Japanese people. I don't even speak Japanese, although I have a lot of friends like, wait. What are you saying, sir? That sentence is all over the place.
Starting point is 01:00:13 But I'm just kind of stupid that way, man. I guess call me a fucking idiot. Okay, I mean, yeah. Yeah, we feel fine doing that, dude. Also, I like that he's proud that he doesn't speak Japanese. Like maybe that's why he doesn't understand his tree. He's like, I don't have, I only have empathy for the language I'm speaking.
Starting point is 01:00:33 Okay, and like the Japanese, they didn't allow to deserve this. I don't speak Japanese, nor do I listen to Japanese people, but I will make a movie about it. And I'm not turning Japanese. That song is great. I have heard that song. I really think so. I have other songs that I will make a movie about it. And I'm not turning Japanese. That song was great. I have heard that song. I really think so.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I have other songs that I do love from that time period. And here I will list them off. The reporter's like, what the fuck is going on? Where it's just, I just lost consciousness. Yeah. Also, I mean, I think he did meet that guy, Tsutomu Yamaguchi, who like survived Nagasaki and Hiroshima. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:03 So I think he's kind of like, I mean, I did meet that dude. He's like the goat of A-bomb victims. I'm like, okay, James Cameron, what are you, what's going on? It's Michael Jordan of people who- Jesus Christ. Surviving two atomic bombs, that's insane. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:18 So he is again going to just, yeah, we'll see what this movie looks like, man. I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know, man. It could be pretty neat. No, we won't, because I'm not gonna fucking watch it. I didn't watch Oppenheimer either. There's some movies where I'm like,
Starting point is 01:01:33 this is too white and too old school. I cannot sit through three hours of it. I was really curious. I'm like, is there gonna be some commentary here? Because like, it can't just be like, yo, the guy did it. Did what? Did what? Yeah. Did what did what?
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yeah. Like, what's the tone you're using? Because you're saying did it like he accomplished something. Do you remember he's all like visited by like that freaky ghost lady, dude. They're like having sex and stuff in his mind. Anyway. Yeah, that was so hot. And she's like, I am become death doesn't that actually happens in the movie, right? Where she's like, I am become death. Doesn't that actually happens in the movie, right?
Starting point is 01:02:06 Where she's like, say the quote. Yeah. And he's like, the one I'm famous for saying after I made the bomb. She's like, yeah, the one that says come in it. Could you do that while you're fucking me? Yeah. It's like, wait, really? They talk about like they said it's like a book he was into in this one interview.
Starting point is 01:02:23 They asked him about they're like, yo, Terminator 2inator 2 bro what the fuck was with that nuclear blast scene it was a dream or whatever he said quote that was Linda Linda Hamilton's character Sarah Connor at the playground watching the bomb flash and the blast effects i had made myself a bit of a lay expert on thermonuclear weapons i'd become fascinated by it since high school when I read the John Hersey book, Hiroshima. It was a slight book where he literally just reports what he saw and what was seen by those he interviewed. I don't remember how he got there to do that, but it was about the only thing you could find on Hiroshima at the time.
Starting point is 01:02:56 So I'm a bit of a lay expert on thermonuclear weapons. Because I read a book. I could not write a more annoying character at a party to talk to Then James Cameron in real life and just in general. Yeah. Yeah that part where he gets up and says I'm the king of the world at the Oscars That you wrote Polly V was amazing. Like how did you come up with that character? What an asshole I just thought I Was just thinking what would be the most obnoxious thing Brody sexually assaulting someone?
Starting point is 01:03:34 Fuck off barking people were like you could like nobody like it was like audible Look how dead his eyes are when he says it too Like he doesn't he can't even get he can't even get excited on the cana world The way he's looking around Yeah, yeah Just looking just searching for approval with those eyes like bro. You got hungry eyes He is that shit alone is everybody should go watch this clip because his he like loses like he's ever made. He feels like the douche overcoming him as he says it and like diet like quits
Starting point is 01:04:14 on it halfway through. Yeah. And he's got a double down double down James. Woo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo! What are you doing? Grrrr! Grrrr! He starts frothing at the mouth and shit. And then the hydrant pees on him. Exactly. Scientists do say that that scene in Terminator 2 is pretty accurate.
Starting point is 01:04:40 I don't understand how the fence stayed up. Just from the wind alone. She stayed attached to it. They're pretty resilient. That's a great ad for chain link fence. Chain link fence. Yeah, chain link fences. I just saw the buzzer.
Starting point is 01:04:55 That scene started as a chain link fence advertisement. Yeah, exactly. It's like, your kids aren't getting- I read a book about chain link fence. Yeah, she's watching her kids at a playground, it gets vaporized and it's like, your kids aren't going nowhere with about chain link fence. Yeah, she's watching her kids at a playground it gets vaporized and it's like, your kids aren't going nowhere with our chain link fences. Not even a thermonuclear device can prevent that.
Starting point is 01:05:10 Pallavi Ghanalan, what a pleasure having you as always on the podcast. Thank you. Where can people find you? Lovely meeting you today. Oh my God, so nice to meet you. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? I am at Pallavi, Gnallin, P-A-L-L-A-V-I-G-U-N-A-L-A-N,
Starting point is 01:05:29 everywhere except for Blue Sky, where I think I got Pallavi. Oh, nice. But yeah, you can find me at all those places. I run a show at the Comedy Store with my friends every month. Our next show is July 18th. It's called Facial Recognition Comedy. I just wanna say, say, I've been posting in the Reddit of Zeitgeist stuff because I've been promoting my shows in there. And you
Starting point is 01:05:54 guys come out to my shows in other cities. Hell yeah. Like, ZeitGang consistently shows up and they come up and they're like, hey, ZeitGang, great show. And they're like, not weird. They're totally sweet I just want to say thank you guys Like it really makes a difference and it like I notice it and I appreciate you guys for coming to my shows I guys that's like my favorite to hear that shout out to zeit gang Yeah, because all of our guests who are stand-ups are like, bro Like I've only been on a couple times and people always come out to the shows. I know it's so good. It's love
Starting point is 01:06:24 It's love and It's love. And also not to suggest like, yeah, and also you're welcome for introducing you to great standups like Pallavi. You're welcome guys. Yeah, that's right. You're welcome. No, but obviously it's not charity. You guys get to go see great standups. So sweet. Yeah. Yeah. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Yeah. So Iran military news at the Iran military posted stunning and pink, loving this bold and glamorous look hearts hashtag Billie Eilish. And it's a picture of her like modeling. And then there's a quote tweet from Kezia underscore of a Cato. That's like wrong account Diva. I know how I saw that.
Starting point is 01:07:07 Somebody. I understand the Iran military news. They've got they've got both. They're covering both. This is like when we found out the Taylor Swift person was like in Israel occupying force defector or whatever. Unbelievable. Who's so fun.
Starting point is 01:07:28 I love it. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work immediate you been enjoying? Uh, you know, find me everywhere. Fucking at miles of gray, you know, miles and check out mad boosties. We had our last episode last week. Check that out just for posterity stakes. Say you were there, you know, say you listened.
Starting point is 01:07:47 I was there. It'll be like being in Woodstock. Never. Anyway, and also find me talking 90 Day Fiance on 420 Day Fiance. One post I like, I think just sort of to remind people how razor thin the margins are as they debate this completely fucked up bill that is going to create untold horror for millions of people in this country. Past guest Wajahat Ali at w-a-j-a-l-i.b-sky.social posted, four Republican votes in the House.
Starting point is 01:08:21 That's it. That's what's needed to kill this horrific, sinful, and murderous GOP billionaire bill. Do four Republicans have the moral courage to do it? I don't know. I don't know if they do, but that's all it takes. Maybe. We'll see. Otherwise, oh boy. God. We'll go even deeper. Oh boy, God. Let's see. Some works of media I've been enjoying. Dinosaur at Dinosaur 1969 tweeted, it must have taken a long time to jack off all trades. That's not even what the saying is, but I'm joking. Trill Withers tweeted,
Starting point is 01:08:57 danger for your little wife was really on his case, man. Man, fucked up. Get out, Rodney, get out, Queen, you don't deserve this. Exactly. Dump her. And Rose at Providence Lover tweeted, Substack, the only fans of the mind. That's really how they should pitch themselves.
Starting point is 01:09:19 Bushwhacker tweeted a picture of a menu of McDonald's, I'm not sure exactly where it is, but it says teriyaki, like it's a teriyaki chicken sandwich with the little word Japan above it. Something called the big roastie from Germany and then McPizza bites. And they said, I'm loving the new McDonald's access powers menu. It really, and it really says great together. Oh wow. Like at the bottom of the menu. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on Blue Sky at Jack OB the number one. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:09:57 We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it and there you will find the footnotes. Footnotes. Which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy? Yeah, there's this surprise chef is like a sort of instrumental funk band from Melbourne,
Starting point is 01:10:20 Australia, that we've gone out on tracks from before. This is from a recent album they just put up but this track is called dangerous. This is just good Instrumental like kind of funky music wake up, you know get your breakfast your cop Whatever you do in the morning fucking play this shit in the background. You'll feel good about it It's fucking fruit flies flying around. Okay. Sorry people know when they when we record this I'm always waving at weird ass flies that coming through some window. I don't know where the fuck they come from Fruit away miles There's just a pile of rotten fruit
Starting point is 01:10:56 Composting I like to compost my lunch under my desk Smells terrible smells terrible. But anyway, yes, dangerous by surprise chef. That's the track we're going out on. Sorry for that distraction. Surprise chef, the last thing that I owe a debris is going to say to the chef and bear the last on the last episode. Yes, chef, no chef. And then surprise chef in the back. She's already tapped someone on that show. Man, I've fallen off. I haven't watched in a season. I need to get back to the stabbing. Get back to the stabbing.
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