The Daily Zeitgeist - Economy Good If you IGNORE IT, He’s Not That Endo You 03.14.25

Episode Date: March 14, 2025

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Or a pizza pie. You know what I'm saying? My name is Jack O'Brien, A.K. In the tallow, in the tallow, in the tallow, tall the towel. Tala la la low in the towel. Tala la la low. We're frying in towel now. That one courtesy of you current do that on television.

You current do it in honor of our new, what's our's job title? Vaccine guy? Vaccine, our new vaccine. I guess head of HH, Health and Human Services, Secretary. I knew you were really technical. Head of Health and Human Services, who has discovered the key to longevity

is going back to frying French fries and beef tallow. Something that we stopped doing in the 80s because it was killing people. Not that we knew shit about anything back then. He's worried about the seed oils. I bet they're bad, but so is beef tallow. Anyways, thank you. You can't do that on television, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host.

It's Mr. Miles Gray. Let me actually take that AKA one step further. Frying up some food. Need a fat to make the flavor good. Oil is a bore. Need something to stop my every pour and i'll go to the chorus umami deep in artery collapsing frying potatoes brown collapse from the clog it was all worth it i'll fry with the tallow now

okay now that was housey on salad because your current do that on television was like I got the chorus somebody hit me with the verse That's called an alley-oop and I had to throw it down So thank you to the both of you on the discord and then our guests will be doing the Oh, part of the song. Ah, ah, ah. Get them pipes warm. Miles, we are thrilled, blessed to be joined in our third seat by a Neclean producer, co-founder of the venue Caveat NYC,

and host of Cramped, a podcast that exposes the medical world's biases and blind spots when it comes to women's health. Please welcome Kate Helen Downey. Hello. Thank you for having me. Yeah. Yeah, that's a deep cut.

Yeah. Oh wait, you know what I'm talking about? Oh yeah. That's Ben Folds 5. Oh, okay. I was a quirky girl in high school. I know. Yeah. Everything caught up. It's a good girl in high school. I know. Yeah, yeah, everything. God, it's a good litmus test to know. Well, were you in band or theater? Both.

Oh shit. Okay, damn, Kate. I was an overachieving quirky girl. Hell yeah, get those extra curriculars in. I played trumpet very badly. I played trumpet too. No way. Oh my God, Kate.

Notice Miles didn't say very badly. You know, I'm sure. I played trumpet too. No way. Oh my god. You didn't say very badly. You know I'm sure. I play trumpet too. Look I'm named after Miles Davis. There's no way I could have played that trumpet badly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was on that shit since eight years old. Yeah.

You have to live up to that. I'm glad that pressure was not on me because I was using my dad's old trumpet that was bent. And so the entire rural Maine high school band had to tune to me. That's amazing. Then I was bad. You think that would make me good at it. No. No. Well, I'm glad that they were accommodating.

Yeah. I guess. Shout out to Super Producer Justin Connor, also a trumpet player. Yeah. Wow. Shout out to you if you Justin Connor, also a trumpet player. Yeah. Oh, wow. Jack, do you feel left out? Not at all.

I was named after Jack Sigma, an average NBA basketball player, and I was an average basketball player in high school. I was named after Kate Hepburn, as my parents told me, and years later, I was like, you mean Katherine? And they were like, meh. Yeah, sure about Kate sometimes. Kate, I don't have, I'm not a Katherine or Caitlin or anything. Were they calling her Kate Hepburn back then?

I guess, my parents were. I don't know if anyone else was. Yeah, like were they close? Kate's a friend. Kate's a friend. Yeah, I was gonna say. Oh, you're named after Kate Hepburn, obviously. Oh, I love Kate. Yes. Kate. Yes.

Right. It's Kate's wonderful. Well, Kate, it's wonderful to have you here. Yes. You're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. Uh, first we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things, uh, we might be talking about a little bit later on in the news section, we're going to just talk about the continuing attempt by the right to explain what's going on with this economy. This, uh, people seem to be feeling badly about how things are going economically.

How do we spin this? The vibes are bad. How do we spin this into actually we meant to do that? How do we spin it into the trip into a light jog to pretend like you meant to do that. How do we spin it into the hood? It's good. It's a good thing. The trip into a light jog to pretend like you meant to trip and start jogging. Yeah, that's what they're doing right now. So we'll look at some clips from around the right wing hemisphere. All of that, plenty more.

But first, Kate, we do like to ask our guest, Kate Hellendowney, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Uh, I didn't have to go far to find one that was very revealing, uh, on a number of levels, I recently searched dropping tampon study experiment. I do a lot of research, uh, for my podcast and in my life in general, but I am not organized about, like I'll read a study and be like, cool, and then not save it or-

Goes in the old brain, but not in the old like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like research journal. Or yeah, I looked at it. And then I'll be, yup. I do not put the link to it anywhere. I just go like, cool, I absorbed the information. I'll definitely know where it came from forever.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. And then when I'm writing an episode and I like have to immediately have it on hand or I'm gonna lose all the thoughts in my head, I just frantically Google until I find it. Yeah. I think that's good.

I think you're doing it right, actually. Because if you took down everything, like when I've tried to like do research, and I'm like trying to be meticulous about like taking down every like source and everything, then I like lose track of what's actually interesting. Whereas like the, if I'm just not, if I'm just like going through and like reading as much as I can, and then the stuff that sticks and the stuff that's not interesting like falls out of my head, then like that actually seems to be a better way of like finding what works for me at least. You know what I mean?

Yeah. I think that works when you're looking up like articles. Yeah. But the thing with research studies and like clinical studies is they're never called, they're never titled the things that make sense for what they contain. Yeah. Like this study, the thing I remembered about

this study was that it was an experiment where they had two, they had a participant who would come into the room. There would be another person in like the white, the waiting, what they thought was the waiting room and it would be a woman and she would have a purse. And so the person who was actually being tested in the experiment thought this was another participant. And this, this woman would drop something out of her purse.

It would either be a tampon or a hair clip and like drop it enough that the other person definitely saw it. And then later, the people running the study would ask the study participant a bunch of questions like, hey, that person you were with, what do you think of her? Do you think she's capable? Do you think she is like, would you hire her for a job? And had them rate the person. And then they also had them choose a seat next to the person

after they came back from taking the test, they could choose to sit in a number of chairs that was either closer to the person or further away. And in the experiments where the woman dropped a tampon, the study participant rated her lower on capability and hireability and all these things and sat further away from her. So like, what would you put in a search bar to like find this experiment? Damn. Yeah, right. Tampon dropping, hair clip dropping.

Exactly. I did tampon dropping study experiment and that didn't work. And it took me so long to find the actual study. The actual study is called Feminine Protection, the effects of menstruation on attitudes towards women, which is like, that's just you could name it better. Right? Yeah. Like help us too. So it's also accessible to people who like, cause that what you've just

shared with us is the really interesting point of this. And while all of the data has its own use for people who are like clinicians and researchers, for the fucking dummies out here, just, they're like, yo, what? Okay, thank you for telling me about that. But yeah, right. I get it. I wonder if I'm sure there's these, these sort of titles help, I don't know, maybe get better grants or something?

Because I guess are they people going to fund the things like, tampon drop test, like it's a YouTube video, social prank or something. But they don't even have the word stigma in it or shame or anything like that. Because it's so clinical. Yeah. It's just like, how does it affect the attitudes? I don't know. Yeah. Right. It's just like, what, how does it affect the attitudes? I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.

They they're trying to, it's like click baity. They don't, they don't want to tell you how it affects the attitude. Right. It's no secret. They don't want to give it away. Right. That would be funny to like have people who work at major scientific and medical journals, like work with editors from Buzzfeed to like write the best clickbait titles for their studies. Yeah, just get rid of the whole middle class of people who write articles when studies come out.

Right. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Dumb it down more. Cut out the middleman, yeah. But like where will my jaw be when I find out about what this study reveals? Like will it be... I mean, you know. On? Like, will it be... I mean, you know. On the ground?

Will it be wide open? Yeah. Right. You will be stunned when you realize what people think. Could we talk about somebody who read the study and then started crying? Could that maybe be something that we do in the title? Yes. I love that.

All right. Jack, this just sounds like a job that you're making for title. Yes. Yeah. I love that. All right. This just sounds like a job that you're making for yourself. I know. It does sound like that. That used to be a big part of my job, was writing headlines. He's regressing. Kate, what is something that you think is underrated?

Yes. The TV, television's bones. TV's bones. Were we just talking about that jokingly? Why did bones just come up recently? Because you're saying how Trump would probably actually hire people from TV shows to help him with efforts. He's like, I need bones.

Give me bones for all these unselfish. How many fictional characters do you think he has tried to hire and had to be told that we that we can't hire fucking Batman. But Dr. Ize is a doctor, right? Well, I mean, yeah, technically. Yeah, he is. Well then, then get me Bones. Wait, so Bones, that's David Boreanis and-

Emily Deschanel. Emily Deschanel, yeah. Yes. Deschanel. Exactly. And it's like 15 seasons, probably 12 or something, but there's a lot of seasons. A lot of bones. It's procedural. So many bones.

And they just solve murders and hang out at the fictionalized version of the Smithsonian Institute. It's so great. I don't like SDU because it makes me, it's so great. It's like, I don't, I don't like SVU, uh, cause it like makes me anxious. Like I like it. And then if I watch it too much, I'll like feel horrible. And you're buying extra locks for your doors and shit. Yeah.

Yeah. And bones is like, it gives you the satisfaction and the comfort of a procedural, but it's just like smart people solving problems and and murders and Like doing science and it's like it's very comforting. It's very cold cases. Is that why? Is it okay? It's um when they find it starts out very Like because they work with bones like bodies that don't have flesh on them anymore So it starts out with mostly like, oh, we found this skeleton like in an abandoned house and it's been there for years and like, there's no way we could

find out who this person was or what happened to them. And then Bones is like, I know, and figures out what happened to them and who they are. And like they solve the murder. Uh, and David Borean is the FBI FBI agent that works with her and her team. Does Bones have superpower? No. Bones is smart. Probably.

Okay. But she doesn't have the thing where she touches Bones and then the person comes alive in front of her. Like a fucking mutant. No, no, no. One of my favorite parts of Bones, because it was spanning 12 years from the early 2000s through the mid 2010s. It was a really interesting time for network TV shows because they were doing crazy shit. They were doing cross-promo episodes for other,

I forget what network it was on, maybe NBC or CBS, but they were doing cross promo. So they have, they, they have episodes with like, do you remember the show, the finder? Yeah. Well, I mean, I remember that it was a show, but I never watched it, but yeah. But that's what, that's like what you're talking about where this guy has the superpower, he like, he like was in Afghanistan and got shot and then now has a superpower where he can find things. Right.

And they do a crossover. Keys? Yeah. Like anything. The whole thing was like, wasn't it tragic? He was like, he was blown up in Iraq or something and it gave him a superpower or some shit. Yeah. And it's literally a super, like it's not like, oh, he's just like a good detective

and can like kind of it's like something unexplainable is happening in his brain because he got blown up and so it's like to cross that over with bones which is a TV show about Like a hyper rational person right right really smart and problem-solving and then they're just like no He just has the finder power Finding out the like diehard takes place in the Harry Potter universe And it's like finding out that like die hard takes place in the Harry Potter universe. Yeah. What is that? And they also do like like what's it called when they do like basically car commercials inside the show where there'll be a scene set in like in the car as they're driving. And in the middle of the conversation, Bones will just be like, oh, this Prius can park itself.

Isn't that cool? That does riff. Hell yeah, bones. Also, who's naming these shows? This one is about bones. So it's his bones and then he finds stuff. So he's the finder. The math genius. How do we, how do we like boil it down to

the most basic, like the most basic word clout. Next one will be finder guy. This guy numbers. Yeah. You mean math? No, math too complex. He numbers. No, no, no. Numbies. Actually, numbies. Numbies. Numbies. It's also, they named the show Bones and it's hard to talk about.

Cause like, okay, you asked me what's underrated. I can't say Bones. Cause then you have to be like the show on TV. You have to say television's Bones. TV's Bones. You mean scripts? Yeah. No, no, the television program known as Bones

that ran from 2005 to 2017, starring David Boreanis and Emily Deschanel. It's not a good name in terms of being able to talk about it. Was she called Bones or did I just add that? That's her nickname. Okay. Cool. David Boreanis calls her Bones. I'd love to be called Bones. That's a cool name.

It's a good name. That is a good name. It's a good name. That is a good name. And for numbers, like I'm a little bit confused because yes, it says numbers, but it says it in words. How do we add, oh, we turn the E into a three. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how you do it. Numbies. Num three R's.

Num thurs. Kate, what's something you think's overrated? I feel like I'm gonna get haters for this, but I think seeing a movie in theaters is overrated. Wow. And now the show is over. Thanks Kate. Thanks for being here.

Great having you. Yep. Like I think it's important. I think people should do it. Like that should exist. Yeah, sure. I just don't like it very much. I don't like to be on my couch. Were you always like anti-theater?

Like, and then with the everything coming on stream, you're like, okay, thank you. Now I'm winning. Or you just juxtaposed together. You're like, oh yeah, I prefer couch. Yeah, I think it was working, like, co-founding and being inside a basement theater Like 14 hours a day. I like what I want to do for fun is not go be in another dark room, right?

and then the pandemic and everything coming on streaming like when you when you had to go to a movie theater and that was the only way you could like see a new movie and You would make it a big thing and go with friends like, that was great, I liked that. But now that you have the option, I'm like, why would I do that? I want to be at home on my couch with my snacks and not pay a bunch of money for it. Do you do people come over watch movie?

Yeah. Yeah, that's nice. That's like a, yeah. I do think I was underrating movie nights at home for a while. Movie nights at home, make your own popcorn. Like, that can be a lot. But I haven't done, we need to do the thing where people, I haven't done the thing where people come over to watch a movie

since the days when I was getting screeners all the time. And that wasn't like, yo, they got fucking blah, blah, blah. I am legend. We could watch this shit right now or whatever. But I do miss that actually. Like that aspect of it, I think, would be fun rather than like, oh, I'm at home. I can watch this movie that's in the theater and make it a thing to get together. And we can also.

So during the pandemic, we would do because when we were seeing movies and theaters all the time, I would there would be certain people I would go with to see certain movies. Like there were there were a couple of friends. I always went to see the like King Kong and Godzilla movies, the new ones. Yeah. And so one of those came out in like 2021 and we did it over like FaceTime. We streamed it together over FaceTime. And then we also like my husband and I have a national theater membership,

like where you can, they have like recorded from the National Theater in London, they have recorded shows like Shakespeare shows, like classic theater, and you that you could just like watch it like it's a movie. And so having people over to do that is really fun too, because it's a little culturey, but you're still at home on your couch. And you don't have to like get dressed up and go out. You could just like watch a Shakespeare thing and then pause it and be like, what? Yeah.

What? I have to look that up. I'm like. Can we put the subtitles on? Actually, this isn't helping. Right. Yeah, exactly. Did he propose to her or is he going to murder her right now?

I'm so lost. I know it's a dick joke, but how is it a dick joke? Yeah. right. Man, that actress seemed to really enjoy delivering that. I just don't know what it meant. Yes. God, he's lovely too. That's so much more fun with friends when you're allowed to talk.

Right. Man, yeah. When I'm at a Shakespeare show, I'm always laughing at the wrong parts. Like, ah! Ah! Damn. Hamlet to be or not to be is as, I think it's funny.

I think it's a funny question. Hey, y'all down to see Macbeth right now? Don't fucking say that in the theater. By the way, Hamlet would have been called Skull Guy if it was on television. It was on CBS in the early 2000s. Skull Talker.

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Listen to Potter Rebellion on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. Mm hmm. And Kate, before we get into the news, I did just want to talk to you about your show Cramped, which you focus on various ways. The medical world is biased and against fully understanding women's health,

almost like willful blind spots scattered about. Yeah, almost. Almost as if. Medical misogyny. My spouse is a physician and I've like had doctor's appointments with her where the doctor will explain things to me. A fucking idiot podcaster. Like looking at me about her. About her, yeah.

About her. like looking at me about her. About her, yeah. About her. Yep. And yeah, I've just been amazed like how retrograde and outmoded like a lot of the attitude, just so much misogyny in the world of medicine. Yeah.

So I'm just curious to hear you talk about that for a little bit. Yeah, I mean, okay. So it started with a really simple thing. I get horrible, horrible period cramps. I have since I was 14 and like, not just kind of like, ow, but like my cramps are so bad that I get full body sweats. I will start throwing up every 10 minutes for anywhere between like three to six hours.

Bad diarrhea. I will pass out from the pain. It doesn't happen every month, but it doesn't seem, it just is like every three or four months I call these death cramps just so that like my family, I had a way to talk to my family and friends about it. Yeah. Because we have one word to describe having cramps. We just have cramps. Right. like, that's not enough words.

Cause for some people it's like just a little uncomfortable, just like achy, annoying, and for some people it is like completely debilitating, excruciating pain and like that's not cool. When men talk about having a cramp, it's like, oh, my, my side hurt a little bit for 15 seconds after I ran because I should have stretched my chest. Right. And even that, even that, we have a word for that.

Let's use that word. Yeah. We have stitch. We have like, oh, I have a stitch in my side for that specific kind of pain. And yet we just have one word for like this whole range of experiences that a lot of people give you. Let's use that word for the pain women are having. It's probably what it is.

It's probably just the same. Right. I don't know, she is. It's probably just the same. I don't know, sweating and passed out on the ground. Right. So for 22 years, I had this horrible period pain. I would go, every doctor I went to, I grew up in rural Maine, so those were the first doctors I saw were in rural Maine.

The first doctor I ever saw for this literally said to me, yeah, some women just get really bad period pain, but it'll go away when you have your first kid. And that was when I was 14. It's like, cool. Is that to like incentivize, yeah, like childbearing or something like, so cracking. Yeah, yeah. Hurry up. No, there's just this idea that like, oh, period pain is just until you have a kid, so don't worry about it. And it's like, one, that's not true. God, we're punishing you for not having a kid yet.

Yeah, basically, yes, that's kind of underneath it all, even if they don't say that part out loud, but yes. So then, you know, I moved to Boston, saw doctors there, moved to New York, saw doctors there, moved to LA, saw doctors here. Every doctor would either say like, hey, have you tried ibuprofen? It's like, yeah.

I've tried it. What? Doctor, say that again. Can you write that in? Yeah. Yeah. Or they would want to put me on birth control, which I did for years and it didn't help or work,

so I had stopped. And they would, if they wanted to do anything about it, they would send me for an ultrasound, which would come back normal. And they would say, okay, there's nothing wrong with you. Problem solved. Goodbye. Yay. Stop complaining.

22 years. Yeah. And so like this would happen, like I, I like lost jobs because of, because this, I used to wait tables and bartend and I would have to call out sick. Lock myself in the employee bathroom or call out sick. And there are so many things that I have missed and it's terrifying to have your body be doing something that is putting you in so much pain and not know why and

have doctors be like, huh, dunno. One of those mysteries, I guess. Yeah. There's like a lot of that too. I'm sure you've seen like both male and female doctors too. Oh yeah. And like that, it's just sort of like that culture just sort of permeates regardless of where you'd think. I'm sure like, oh, clearly she might understand given where

physiologically sort of aligned here in our like in our experience on Earth. But then still, it just feels like that way of looking at it is just so entrenched in our medical practices that even that's like, sorry. Ninety percent of menstruating people get period pain, some period pain, and about 30 percent of menstruating people get what is called severe period pain or dysmenorrhea, but that means, but because it is not like talked about openly or studied, if you are a person with a uterus and you don't get severe period pain, you think it doesn't exist basically.

Right. Yeah, yeah. Or the other people are like being dramatic or yeah. Exactly. Where you're like, I get cramps. What are you complaining about? Oh, like how white people view racism. Exactly. Exactly. I've never seen it. Exactly. It doesn't seem like it's a problem. There were those signs that we made up about not hiring Irish people in the late 1800s.

So I get it. I've heard of it, but I got over it, you know? Right, right, right. I get over it. So, just saying. Yeah over it, so just saying. It's pretty much that, yeah. So I made this podcast because I was like, I've been having this severe pain for 22 years,

and I've never actually gotten answers on really basic questions, like literally what's happening inside my body that's causing this much pain. How can I better treat it? How can I stop having this pain? And why have I gone 22 years without getting a diagnosis or an effective treatment? And how many other people out there are experiencing the same thing as me? And so in my attempts to answer these questions and kind of

solve my issue across 10 episodes. I do get a diagnosis. I do find out a lot of information, but I also learn why these questions are so hard to answer, which is infuriating because, and I mean, like we know it's misogyny, right? Like we know it's patriarchy, but like the extent of it, and it's like right under the surface. You just like scratch it, scratch the surface a teeny bit, and it's like right under the surface You just like scratch it scratch the surface a teeny bit and it's like oh, it's right there

It's wild how much it still persists on something that is life and death for people every single day And it's still just like such a fucking massive blind spot. Yeah. Yeah, everybody should go listen to the podcast It's such an important topic and I will say like men to go listen to the podcast. It's such an important topic. And I will say like men, men or people who don't menstruate also can get a lot out of this. Like if you have people in your life.

Yeah, especially go listen to it. If you're like, what? Don't be with these people. Nah, don't bother. Then don't bother me. Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah. Then especially you.

Because like if we get better at treating this, if the medical system improves, like you as a man, your life we get better at treating this, if the medical system improves, like you as a man, your life will get better because the people in your life who are experiencing this pain will be less in pain. They'll be less angry at you. They will be healthier. Yes, right. They will be more able to like show up to family stuff, to like social stuff.

Like it's just going to make the world better for everybody. And this is not a small number of people. Like, you know, somebody that this affects. And if you don't know that, you know, somebody it's because they don't feel safe or comfortable talking to you about it. Right. So I remember in high school, it was like, I had a home girl who had like real same thing, like really terrible cramps and like her parents are religious.

And like the doctor was like, you know, birth control would, it would be something we can try to help. And it was like this whole thing to like try, like where her parents were like, no, absolutely not. But then they're like, but then they kept seeing their daughter in like pain and then they're like finally relented. And I just remember as a teenager being like, holy shit, this is like so outside of my realm of understanding.

But like, and then like the religious, like religiosity of it. So I'm like, dude, just fucking help her, dude. She's fucking slumped over all the time, like in pain or like had to bring a heating pad to school all the time. It was just like, yeah. And it's, it's, it's such a complex thing, but we just, I think broadly don't like you're saying we don't have enough awareness on it to be able to have conversations around it, or too many of us are having like the realizations like I'm having as a teenager like, whoa, what?

Yeah. What are you going to do? Then that's like going up, like then that's already going up against a whole other set of beliefs that are like restrict the holy shit. Yeah. Well, and just the fact that we don't talk about it, like as a teenager and even into my twenties, like I thought I was a medical anomaly like I thought there was just because that's the reaction I got from doctors they were just like weird we've never seen anything like this before yeah and that's fucked up like yeah yeah there are so many people out there experiencing the same thing and if we talked more openly about it people

wouldn't be kind of like locked in this like hell of like, well there's something wrong with me and there's nothing that can be done. Because like there is the like ultimately there is a lot that can be done. There's a lot more studies that need to be done. There's a lot more investment into some of the like biggest causes of severe period pain. But like we can do it. We just have to. It's like, you know, there was no like AIDS research until everybody was like, hey, fuck you, like research this, we're dying. I care people too.

We're gonna go ahead and say, we actually think they're people. So you guys can go ahead and research this. Yeah. Right, and we need that kind of uproar about, like there are so many people in pain 12 times a year, like severe pain, not able to live their daily lives. And we're not talking about it.

We're not, we're not aware of it. It's we've been told not to make it anybody else's problem. And like that's the same shit that was like, uh, she's just being hysterical. Right. It's like, uh-huh. Oh boy. Well, what's your, what's the anecdote for that? Don't ask.

Then like even just like the thing was just like, just a total lack of studies into like anything female anatomy was like that recent study about like snakes, clitorises, and they're like, why are we just finding this out now? It's like, cause no one was researching this shit ever because men were dominating, I don't know, I don't fucking care about that shit. Yeah, so many blind spots. Literally, there's a condition called endometriosis

that is the most common cause of severe period pain. It did end up being what I had and have, and it is so understudied. One in 10, the WHO estimates that one in 10 people with a uterus have endometriosis. And yet the average, the average time to get diagnosed with it is seven to 10 years. Wow. They're like, we got to, we got to really make sure you got this. All right. So then, yeah, it's only like 400 million people on earth.

Yeah. It's crazy. And it's so, and like the symptoms are clear. Like it is, nobody should be waiting that long to get diagnosed. And it's partly because to be officially diagnosed, you have to have a laparoscopic surgery. But like, the symptoms are really clear. Right, right, right. You can figure it out.

Yeah. Yeah. Just, yeah. Be like, you probably have that. Let's treat as if you do. But there are gynecologists who don't know about endometriosis or like, it was mentioned in med school, like once. Yeah.

And they just don't, even though 10 percent of people with uteruses have it and gynecologists, the uterus doctors don't care or know about it. Endo what? Yeah. Endo what now? Exactly. That's literally the name of a film about endometriosis is Endo what?

Because people don't know about it. He's just not that endo what? Because people are... Endo what? Yeah, people don't know about it. It's just not that endo you. Mm-hmm. Okay, we're just punching up titles here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll put that one. I'll put a pin in that one. I'll come back to that one. It's just not that endo you.

It's about a doctor just being like, could we move it along here? Most of the time, you have pain. I just have so much anger that... I have pain too. Yeah, I've lost family to like that kind of really lazy kind of diagnoses. Oh yeah.

And it ends up being something so much more severe because the sort of default attitude at looking at this is like, ah, it's fine. Yeah. Come back in a few months when you have something terrible that's actually happened to you. Yeah. Right, when it's way worse.

And yeah, that is such a huge shift we've been in. Everything, like everything structural, anyone who is a person of color, queer, anyone that the system is not built for is going to be experiencing this even more. I am hosting this as the podcast as like a cis white woman in a like average body and I still had to wait 22 years to get my diagnosis and by the way pay out the ass Go outside of my already expensive insurance just to get a diagnosis Right and like I haven't even done treatment yet. Like I don't because I that place, you're like, okay, I know now. Yeah. Now there's even more questions because there is no cure.

You can just manage it. Yeah, it's real bad. Oh my God. Yeah. Well, thank you. Thanks for making this show, and thanks for being on to tell us about it. We're going to take a quick break and we'll come back, and we'll talk about the economy and other dumb bullshit.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Listen to Potter Rebellion on the iHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back! And, alright, so, you know, this has been kind of the ongoing story of this week, as the economy has taken a big old shit. The economy, the biggie economy, the one that the mainstream media pays attention to the one that will fuck us over. You know, it's a, it has the ability. So when it's going good, it doesn't make most doesn't, it's not good for regular people.

The rich people just do stock buybacks for like the C suite. But when it's going bad, it really, it really fucks everybody up. And it's going bad. So that's not good. No. And the thing, the economy is like one of the main reasons people gave as to why they wanted Trump back in office. Yeah, he's government business, business guy. Yeah.

And I mean, and who could blame them if you aren't aware of all the existential threats that he poses to America and your only metric for deciding who to vote for in a presidential race is my life good in 2019, then yeah, sure. Great. You've, you've, you've succeeded there. Um, but like there's CNN recently did a poll on Trump's handling of the economy and he is in the worst position he's ever been in. 44 percent approved, 56 percent disapproved. That's a net thumbs down of 12 percent.

On Vox, they plotted out where this was in terms of other polls and economy, and this is a total outlier. Yeah, it's way the fuck down. You know what this is reminding me of actually? This is so stupid. But this is reminding. Remember when George Lucas brought the prequels back, reminding me of actually, this is so stupid. But this is reminding, remember how like, when George Lucas brought the prequels back,

everyone was like, and now we can have the pure George Lucas vision with like all the people just being like, you're a genius, George, you got this one, George. And then it came out and it just sucked shit because it was like, and like all, like when you hear him talk about the original trilogy of Star Wars, he's always like complaining about all the notes he, and like all, like when you hear him talk about the original trilogy of Star Wars,

he's always like complaining about all the notes he got, and like all the battles he had to fight, and like people give it like pushing back and, and like that's good. Yeah, making it like, yeah, reining in his worst instincts and being like, I mean, that's a cool idea. Let's go with the cool idea and not like the shitty one, where you think you're like a good comedy director

And that Jar Jar Binks is gonna be the future of I feel like this is the Star Wars prequels of the Trump Presidencies where he just is fully it's all gas no breaks And he the only thing that was keeping anything on the rails up to this point was the brakes The only thing that was keeping anything on the rails up to this point was the brakes. Yeah. Right. Right. That was it. Yeah.

Now, it's just- Because now we are off the fucking charts, literally. Yeah. We're- Yeah. We are in the scene where Jar Jar Binks is doing comedic pratfalls that kill people at the end of that first movie. But he's fighting, man. He's fighting.

Yeah, he's fighting. But this polling and just generally the attitude from the town halls and everything, people can see for themselves that this is affecting their day-to-day. Whether it's people getting laid off, lack of prices coming down, Dodge trucks going up in the tens of thousands of dollars overnight because of tariffs and shit like that.

And the polling, all that's rattled them because now the right wing is just going so hard on telling people that the tariffs that are fueling all of this chaos are good. So just a couple, let's just take a quick tour of some of the takes from the right wing talkosphere. This first one is from Laura Ingraham, who is telling her viewers to literally just ignore all of the talk about the economy. Just don't listen to it. That's step one. This is Laura Ingraham explaining this is how you protect yourself from all

the haters. Isn't it great to have an optimistic president who has a real plan to make life better for Wall Street and Main Street? Just ignore the sky is falling reports in the regime press. Tune out the breathless reporting about market gyrations because even the most dedicated globalists, they know Trump is good for business. It's wild to call the mainstream media the regime. It's like you guys control the entire government right now. You are the regime. I'm sorry, Laura, define regime more entirely for me,

just so we're clear on that. Ignore all the negative stuff the regime media is saying about dear leader. Yes, exactly. Please, find a new angle regime media. Again, and every version of someone on Fox is has there I think everyone's got their own little spin on how to be like, how do we get these people to fucking ignore the tariffs or try and spin the tariffs as good. This is Greg Gutfeld doing his, he's given the listeners or the viewers on Fox and the five. This is Greg Gutfeld's 4D chess on how to navigate tariffs.

Hey, you know, a tariff is not a tax if you don't buy the goods. And I'm tired of the media calling the tariff a tax. It's the opposite. Oh. You know, a government issued tax is an involuntary cost on you. You're paying for stuff that as a New Yorker, you don't benefit from.

I spent I pay a small fortune in taxes and I still have psychopaths living on my street. I have roads that destroy the car suspension and I can't take the subway. But I pay more taxes than my dad made in his whole life as an income, but it doesn't really matter. I'm gonna make Jesse so happy right now. You know what causes inflation? I'm glaring at Harold, DEI. And Harold is the one person of color in the race exactly and he's glaring at Harold

And then they're like he's joking. Haha. It's again Whatever the fuck you're talking about, but that's so that's sick, dude tight So do you don't got to pay on that tariff if you don't buy it like the fucking food don't buy it imported all the shit that's imported for American consumers like Does he have any idea how much we have to import to sustain this consumer economy? Yeah. That's also such just like a rich brain rot thing of like, I pay for the subway, but I don't even use the subway.

And it's like, do you not use the subway because you live in a gated community in Connecticut? Or no, you live in New York, so okay. Do you not use the subway because you live in a gated community in Connecticut? Right. Or no, you live in New York, so okay. Do you not use the subway because you get driven everywhere? That's not the same thing. I don't take the subway because people know I'm a racist piece of shit and they confront me about it on the subway, and that's the fucking issue.

Right. I thought I'd be just another anonymous white guy in a Patagonia vest, but I'm not. But again, these things are fucking tax hikes on consumers. Like he's looking at it again, like the most overly simplistic way in that he's saying, well, the higher prices will make a consumer just want to buy the American stuff. And then that's how it helps, you know, everybody get more America centric. But again, these taxes, we all know this, these are just passed on to the consumer because since when is a fucking company a business telling us, oh, yeah, we'll

totally make less money on this. And you know what? We'll absorb the hit. We're not going to pass that onto the consumer. That's not our business model. We also like America can't, we can't feed our own people on the food we grow here. We have to import food. We have to.

This is so that's not optional. You don't like potato chips made out of corn and hamburgers made of corn? Nobody's saying anything bad about corn here. Sounds like you don't like corn. When the other countries have to raise their prices also, just like based on what we've seen from corporations of the past, I don't know, decade. Like, it seems inevitable that the corporations are also, the American corporations, even if they don't have to, will raise their prices because they can. And like, they raise their prices

anytime they can. And so if the competition raises prices, they just raise their prices as well. That's basically what we've seen with inflation, even though that description puts a bunch of economists and consultants out of work. So it's never the one that we get, but that seems to be what's happening. Yeah, look at egg crisis. Egg crisis will- Yeah. Inflation across the board for as long you know, as long as it's been happening in the past five years, like as inflation is happening, corporations are making record profits. Like that, that's all you need to know.

That's all you need to know. Like they're making way more money than they've ever made. And inflation is going up. Like those two things are related. The people who are making record profits are the ones raising the prices. Yeah, I remember we were doing this as it was happening, Jack.

Like we kind of stopped even trying to say inflation because that gave all these companies cover for they're just out in the open greed because there are many studies, you know, that was like in 2023, like 50 corporate profits were something like half of the driving force of inflation. It wasn't actual supply of the shit that they tried to tell us in the like 2020, 2021.

At a certain point, it's like, fucking bro, just keep turning the fucking heat up. But anyway, this- Sorry, I think egg prices are a really good microcosm of this because we know there's bird flu. That's like being reported on, genuine public health threat, but also killing all the chickens. But there are egg conglomerates whose farms have not been hit by bird flu who

are raising their prices because they can, because everybody knows bird flu is out there and will accept higher prices. Like it's a market economy, which, but it's a market economy run by conglomerates that are essentially monopolies. So they get to price hike when they can get away with it. Yeah, it's like, oh yeah, we're like, just so you know, we are 40% of the companies, just this one company.

It'll look different because the boxes are different. Yeah, we do different boxes. And so it seems like you have different options. But then this whole idea of the tariffs as tax hike has come up because, you know, Caroline Leavitt, who's the terrible press secretary of the White House, she was pressed by the Associated Press during a briefing on this. And she just goes like, oh man, she just spins herself into circles being like, these are not tax hikes on American people.

Just because the prices go up doesn't mean it's a tax hike. This is her getting very, very defensive over the definition of a tariff or tax hike and it gets a little snippy. Let's see this. Actually not implementing tax hikes. Tariffs are a tax hike on foreign countries that again have been ripping us off. Tariffs are a tax cut for the American people and the president is a staunch advocate of tax cuts. As you know he campaigned on no

taxes on tips, no taxes on overtime, no taxes on Social Security benefits. He is committed to all three of those things and he expects Congress to pass them later this year. I'm sorry Have you ever paid a tariff because I have They don't get charged on foreign companies. I mean that guy sucks too. They get charged on the importers And ultimately when we have fair and balanced trade which the American people have not seen in decades As I said at the beginning, uh revenues will stay here wages will go up And our country will be made wealthy again And I think think it's insulting that you're trying to test my knowledge of economics and the

decisions that this president has made. Wow. I mean, Caroline, let's keep it a buck, my darling. You don't know what it is. But I like though that you do the, I think it's insulting that you're like calling me out and just broadly act as if what you said was correct in on any planet. She is not incorrect. It is insulting. It just happens to be accurate also. Yeah, I also like what she's talking about. Have you ever paid? I love it. Do that reporter's like, I'm sorry.

Have you even paid a tariff? Do we even, what the fuck are we even talking about here? Yeah. That guy sucks too though. It's like kind of a perfect, it's like I agree with what he's saying, like his content of what he's saying is correct. But I'm like, the way you're saying this sucks, dude. Yeah.

I want to punch you in the face. Have you ever paid a tariff? Yeah. I have. That is a problem with the mainstream media. I'm importing a bunch of phrase t-shirts that I'm going to be selling outside of Coachella. I paid a tariff. I paid it. Now, it's funny, this exact quote, this is like basically, not everyone is in agreement

over if these tariffs are good, because this is Ben Shapiro. He is not, he's like, well, yo, what the fuck is going on for like, please explain what the fuck is happening. Here's a clip of Ben Shapiro from his show. This is him reacting to that Caroline Levitt exchange with the Associated Press. Again, I'm going to need some clarification as to how this is actually going to in the short term, medium and long term benefit Americans. We can talk about other countries ripping us off as much as we want.

And again, if the goal here is to lower the tariffs by getting other countries to lower their tariffs, then great, I'm all in, makes sense. But if the idea is the tariffs themselves enrich the American people, that is against pretty much all economic knowledge for the last couple of centuries or so. So maybe I'm wrong, maybe it'll turn out to be great.

I like it goes like even like it's somehow it's a bridge maybe far for Ben Shapiro. Yeah, it's a bridge too far for you because I bet this guy's stock portfolio must look like deep fried dog shit if he's like, I don't know what what's the fucking deal here? Like, explain it to me because I am not feeling it right now. I don't like what I'm seeing because a lot of people show all the gains that have been made in a lot on most of the stock market since Trump came in office have been erased from all of the tariff bullshit. So that's who I feel with the worst for all those gains, Jack. Yeah, all the gains. What's that onion

headline? That's so good? Or no, it's a Jezebel headline. No, not, oh God, I don't know. It's a headline that's like- Reductress? Yeah, it's a reductress headline that is like, oh no, worst person you know just made a good point. Yeah, right, right, right.

Exactly. Yeah. For him to be like, I just, what the fuck? Just, again, they're throwing their hands up. And I think this is going gonna continue to be a nightmare for the Republicans because it's one thing to tell a person like in Kentucky that the Southern border is a hellscape

and that immigrants thousands of miles away are doing dog buffets on the locals because that's like an obscure and nebulous threat that they could just sort of create in someone's mind in the theater of the imagination. But it is a completely different endeavor to tell someone that is seeing the prices not come down at their local stores, that is seeing their retirement go fucking wacky because it's tied to the stock market that that the reality that they are

experiencing is not what they are, in fact, experiencing. And I think that's just you're just seeing them really fucking grapple with this. And there's plenty of true believers who don't, who are completely disconnected from that, but you can see not everybody is quite on board with this, especially the, the capitalists who their life's blood is the fucking market and that is, you know, that it's not doing the thing that it needs to be doing. Yeah. That, that seems pretty clear.

Sorry, I was distracted. I was working on something. Uh, the Italian magician made the bench disappear-o, and then for the prestige, he made the bench-apiro. Oh. Bench-apiro. Wow.

That's what I've been working on over here. How dare you? Just the way you're saying his name, I kept thinking like bench-apiro. Bench-apiro. Yo, Bench-apiro name. I have like bench. Ben Shapiro. Yo, Ben Shapiro. Ben Shapiro. You know, the bench disappeared and then it appeared.

Thank you. You're welcome. You caught that? Kate, did you get that? I feel like I'm still processing. Yeah, yeah. It's a thinker. It's a thinker.

Exactly, dude. It's like the movie, It's a thinker. Exactly, dude. It's like the movie The Prestige, right? Damn, dog. How did it f***? So tight. Wow, so tight. Spoilers, man. Kate.

Oh, yeah. Leave out the spoiler. Miles just gave it. Oh, yeah, sorry. I do feel like that's a spoiler that's still preserved slightly. It is? Oh, I'm so sorry. For anybody who hasn't seen it.

Because it's not like the sixth sense where it's like, this is the twist ending movie you have to see. It's like a good movie that- I love the respect that we have for the prestige. It's like, dude, you got to check it out still. I feel so fucked up that I didn't mention branding. It's been over 10 years, but- One of my favorite experiences was watching that in theaters, Kate.

Nope, not legitimate. And then right into a Tom York song really got my ass. Man, 19 years ago that shit came out. No, that's upsetting. That's really upsetting. Yeah. Year after Bones debuted. It was a great time for art.

Yeah. It was a great time for art. Yeah. We really should start measuring things that way. Like, what season of Bones was it? Yeah. Oh, it's pre-Bones? Yeah, it's pre-Bones.

Pre-Bones? Wow. Pre or post-Bones. It was pre-Obama? Oh, no, they're both. I actually don't know. Where was it in relation to season two of Bones? Yeah. Oh, season two going into season three of,

well, we counted the first year of his presidency. Yeah, right, okay, right. The economic collapse? I feel like that was season three of Bones. Yeah, season three of Bones. And you can tell. Yeah. Yeah.

Kate, what a pleasure having you on the podcast. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, you can find Cramped anywhere you get your podcast. So that's C-R-A-M-P-E-D, Apple Podcasts, Spotify, wherever. You can find me on TikTok at Kate Is Cramped, where I am continuing to share research and findings and thoughts, and how much money I'm spending on my medical care. And you can find me on Instagram at Kate Helen Downey.

There you go. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Other than bones? Other than bones, yeah. Or it could be, you could just double down on the bones, love, you know? It's tempting, it's tempting. But no, I actually did find a TikTok account that I'm really

enjoying. And I don't know how ethical it is because it might be AI, but I'm enjoying it. So it's called Dr. Pickle. And it's like medical explainer videos, but with a lot of swears. So it'll be like, this motherfucking endometriosis is when these cells get out of the goddamn uterus and they go other places they're not fucking supposed to be. It's really matching my freak in a way that I enjoy. Nice. Love it. Miles, where can people find you as their work of media you've been enjoying?

Yes, find me everywhere. They have the at symbol at miles of gray. Find Jack and I on the basketball podcast miles and check out my boosties and you can catch me talking 90 day fiance on the other show for 20 day fiance. Let's see some things I like. First one. Actually, this is this one.

This is from Captain Bleach at Blaine Capach dot B Sky dot social to hit coming out of the M.R tweeted coming out of the MR coming out of the MRI machine. Do not go in there. What are you doing? I just love the idea of somebody coming up and MRI farting. Anyway, that's it. That's me. I enjoyed a blue sky from Amy Ash at Lull on Wee. I'm blue sky who retweeted a picture of

the bill from Schoolhouse Rock talking to the kid on the stairs of the Capitol and said, I'm just a bill. Yes, I'm only a bill and you're going to kill a man for eggs someday. Schoolhouse rock is the gift that keeps on giving. We all remember it. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien and on blue sky at Jack OB and then the number one. Uh, you can find us on Twitter and bluesky at daily zeitgeist. Uh, we're at the daily zeitgeist on Instagram.

Uh, you can go to the description of the episode, wherever you're listening to it. And you can find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy there in the footnotes. Hey, Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy that you might want to link off to in the footnotes? The footnotes? The weather is not great in LA. It's very rainy. We love rain though, but it makes me long for, you know, like the, you know, with the, with the spring forward, I'm like, I'm looking forward to a little spring, a little sun, maybe be in the water type of shit. And

this band, I just want to look, this is the way they describe their work. And this is I'm only going to read it because this is this is the vibe of the track we're about to go out and says, quote, you wake up to the smell of churros coming through your window, it's unseasonably warm, and you're not hungover like at all the public pool. Like at all. You walk even though it's kind of far and on the way you find a $10 bill on the sidewalk. The pool is packed and everyone's playing that game where you grease up a watermelon and try to

catch it. The sun is fucking blasting. The beers are $7 but you've got two cold red stripes in your backpack. Some kid has this sick boom box and ask you what to put on. You already know exactly what you're choosing. It's got to be King Parry. So this is the artist King Parry with the track Something Something. And again, if you like that description, they are delivering on this track, Something Something. Those vibes are coming. Yes. All right. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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