The Daily Zeitgeist - Elon Musk Is Hilaaarious Bro, NPR = ASMR For Guilty Libs 04.29.22

Episode Date: April 29, 2022

In episode 1237, Jack and Miles are joined by Bridget Todd to discuss…Online Harassment Of Marginalized People Is A Problem That Means The Musk Twitter Purchase Is Not a Funny Joke, Russia’s Neo-Nazi Raid is Hilariously Unconvincing, NPR ASMR weirdness again and more! Breakingviews: Elon Musk probably won’t buy Twitter Alleged Russian sting operation uncovers ‘The Sims 3,’ guns, grenade Russia appears to confuse ‘The Sims’ for SIM cards in possible staged assassination attempt Video of the purported raid Reported Russian media Russian TV presenter Vladimir Solovyov banned from entry to Latvia Solovyov's documentary Video of the purported raid Fact Check: Social Media Posts MAY Show Russian Agents Arresting 'Neo-Nazis' -- But Clues Suggest It Could Be Staged, Fabricated Bellingcat breaks stories that newsrooms envy — using methods newsrooms avoid Elliot Higgins Tweet Sloppy Russian Propaganda Says Nazi Assassins Owned The Sims 3 Russia Declares The Sims 3 as Evidence of a Nazi Assassin Plot Tweet #1 About NPR Tweet #2 About NPR When one way of speaking dominates, who gets to tell their stories on public radio? Does listening to NPR have a calming effect on you too? Tweet #3 About NPR Tweet #4 About NPR Tweet #5 About NPR Tweet #6 About NPR Does anyone else find simply listening to NPR somewhat ASMR-inducing? Tweet #7 About NPR Testing the Tingles: The Science Behind ASMR FOLLOW: Bridget on Twitter and Instagram Check Out: There are no girls on the internet  LISTEN: ALMOST BLUE BY LUCYSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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shared consciousness it is friday april 29th 2022 which of course means it's national hairball awareness day to you gotta be aware of the hair balls for the health of your uh animal friends you know maybe groom if your if your cat's having coughing up a lot of hair balls help out with the grooming i don't know my cats luckily don't have that issue um but yeah bring awareness because it's not yeah these are not like pellets like a an owl coughs up after swallowing a uh rabbit hole this is these are from the grooming process yeah and then you take because you know cats groom themselves and then they ingest their hair and they either pass it you know naturally or they cough them up as we all you know see coughing up a hairball um yeah i didn't i

didn't realize that it could be it could get so bad that's that's i'm blessed with cats who don't have this issue so but yeah please be aware folks hairballs are out there you got the you got the short hair ones right like the doctor no they're fucking their coats are long as fuck oh they are wow oh my god you see their tails look like fucking you thought a marching band was coming through these plumes that. That's right. Up in the air. All right. Well, I'm Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I'll bite you with my vampire straws.

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Miles and I both believe that. Hey, who's Miles? Well, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! If you're having cruise ship problems, I feel bad for you, son. I got 88 keys, but ain't playing one. Hit me! Okay, yesterday's guest, Nicole Thurman, was talking about how she was on a cruise ship and saw a piano show called 88 Keys. And the dude who was supposedly playing the piano was pantomiming the whole time with a backing track.

Easier to staff a position of a guy who can pretend to play. I'm not hating on that. I just love that. I would love to do a show because I feel like I could fake play a lot of instruments. I can play a couple instruments, but I would love to pick up a flute and just do a fake flute solo, hop on piano, do on that. I feel like I could sell it. Yeah. No, I mean, just watching you type.

You were just finishing an email before we started recording, and it was like watching somebody just jam out on the on the piano you had your eyes closed you were standing up using your butt at times elbows exactly he said i'm like they call me the jimmy hendrix of mavis beacons um well we are thrilled to be joined in our third c oh yeah and by the way uh apologies for anybody who got uh some audio issues on yesterday's episode up top. They have been fixed if you want to go re-download that.

Oh yeah. Yeah. It's a good one. The audio just was not there for like the first 10 minutes. It's back though. We're good. We're back. And we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the extremely talented podcast host

and digital activist who you can hear on her brilliant podcast there are no girls on the internet it's bridgette oh i love the warm welcome thank you for having me miles i have to tell you i once went to a britney spears concert where when she played the song every time she was sitting at a piano but then yes and there was piano music playing as if she was playing it and then she got up from the piano and the piano music continued yes good we don't care you know we don't care it's a show you know why not that's that's i love when an artist wants to sit at a piano like axl rose used to love to do that i think he didn't play like every once in a while but it was it was important for him to open up the mtv video music

awards performance sitting at a piano you know that was like oh you thought i was just a rock star no no no no uh really i'm kind of a i'm a musician uh a composer i guess you could say well and just playing nice it brings the gravitas yes yeah for sure who are they emulating is that like a old sinatra thing or like tony bennett you know that because that like the thing where it's like all right we had enough of that enough of rock and roll let's get let's get over to this piano really quick you know what i mean spotlight because that's like a trope right for like music concerts and i know it obviously starts somewhere like is it elvis did elvis ever i've never seen elvis at a piano but i i'm not a huge elvis fan so oh yeah man um that most famous one he did right before he died oh i don't like to

acknowledge that he died i actually don't believe he did so okay my bad my bad my bad yeah forgot about that men in black men in black but yeah he plays uh yeah he plays piano you didn't know that i mean what's that track he played right like one of the last concerts he did it's like a really iconic performance and everyone's like oh shit this makes me think of elton john unchained melody okay unchained melody okay oh yeah and he's like you know you could tell he looks he looks unhealthy as fuck in that show his last concert and he's ripping the piano damn all right elvis um i mean that that does seem to play against type right you you typically want to

see the whole the whole elvis you want to see the hips swiveling the the honey in the hips and uh that wasn't happening in those days so i mean it does give you a chance to sit down uh when you're maybe a rock star who's past their physical prime you know and just be like chilling um yeah i just want to i just again i think i do respect the mid-concert piano break yeah i think elton john stevie wonder like those are the people who i think of when i think of somebody at a concert just destroying the room from behind a piano oh yes yeah well i mean yeah because we think i think the fun part is when someone who's not known for playing keys is like let's take it to the keys real quick yeah yeah i thought you did it okay but britney brit britney i love the britney that

that's an amazing yeah yeah it was one of the best concerts of my entire life. How old were you? Oh, I was fully in my 20s. Oh, this was like... Yeah, this wasn't that long ago. Was this Vegas? Was it the Vegas show? It was Vegas. Wow.

And I, looking back, you know, I know those shows. Now we know that like, perhaps those shows were not as pleasant for her as they were for me and the audience. But she is a performer. Why does that red dot keep appearing on her forehead? Right? You know, I saw this video of her where she was performing in Vegas and she kept talking about how she was sick and she didn't feel well.

And then you watch the documentary Framing Britney Spears and she talks about how they forced her to perform when sick. And those concerts have a whole new like very grim meaning now yeah yeah damn not to bum everybody out yeah but i mean like let's just you know put some respect on on her name and what the what she sacrificed so you guys could see the best concerts you've ever seen that's why she had to play the fake piano okay bridges she would have played the real one really played any other day but she was sick she was doing the flu game yeah maybe you saw her flu game like her greatest work one of the greatest ones yeah yeah

she was I was at my sickest anyway um all right well Bridget we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about um we are gonna talk about uh the elon musk shit in the context of you know online harassment of marginalized groups of people um and just generally it feels like elon musk has replaced trump as the thing that just takes up all the oxygen and everyone's like so fucking tired of hearing people talk about elon musk right and then wait what do you have the fan people yeah yeah yeah then you have the super fans um so we'll talk about that we'll talk about russia's uh neo-nazi raid on like what what they claimed were neo-nazi journalists uh they're the it appears to be a wildly unconvincing frame job um yeah and so i just want to talk about that general trend of

like not even trying very hard when you lie um and yeah you know draw draw a line between that uh trump even like a sit like with a simpsons-esque like literal mishap with trying to frame someone like you literally got okay wow not dealing with our a-team here yeah gotta get those sim sim cards oh whoops um did did you see that they more on that yeah more on that in a moment we'll dip back into the npr uh well to just look a little bit more into the history and to the asmr of it all um and we might even get to some broadway shows uh all of that plenty more but first bridget we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history a question that i googled recently is who closes the bus door when the bus driver gets off the bus oh my god think about it i saw this tiktok that asked that question and i thought this podcast is over

i need medical care purposes this podcast is over that's all we're talking about i still haven't gotten to the bottom of it if anyone knows how how bus doors get opened and closed when the driver is off the bus i would love to know yeah is it a timer you know what i mean like when you're setting an alarm at like you know if you close up at like a you know retail gig you're like all right we're gonna bring the gate down let me hit the alarm beep beep beep beep beep and you got like 30 seconds i'd imagine it's much simpler like they're like there's a fucking lever you know like and a hook or you can just pull this one part and it closes but i like the philosophical question yeah who

closes the door for the bus driver the super producer chris who's filling in for super producer justin has suggested they do it through the window um i'm not sure like that that was the first thing that popped in my mind and like there there's that like smallish window to the left and like that i like the first thing i picture when you ask the question was them like And like there, there's that like smallish window to the left of the driver's side. And like the, I, like the first thing I picture when you ask the question was them like sliding out like one limb at a time of that, just being like, and that's just like, you, you go to the bus depot and see this horrible, shameful, uh, event. Um, but Chris, if you have any proof of that, or if that was just an idle suggestion, let us know.

I mean, that's by far the, the simplest and most logical way to do it. Like, yeah, I open the door and the button that's right there. I just go on the other side of the bus. I press that.

And then I just close the window. They close it through the window. I was picturing them get like leaving through the window like climbing out right you have to be a tiny bus driver yeah bring the air brakes down then all right slide out this fucking going through the emergency exit at the back of the school bus. These were what I was thinking of. But school bus windows, I feel like, are kind of small. Like, they're high up there and small.

They would have to, like, reach all the way to that big swingy thing. I haven't been on a school bus in many years, but that's how my school bus worked. I mean, I went to youtube i said bus driver closing bus door and there's a video called who closes the school bus door when the driver gets off and then i just but we're not gonna watch it um this is one of those things i like having mystery in the world so you don't you don't want to know no i mean i could i could make this terrible for us but this guy on tiktok's just showing us all right i'm gonna let mr neil demonstrate this one because he drives a bus with air brakes bus driver it's closed we're at a bus

depot they want to know how do you close the door with air When you get off the bus You flip this switch here It takes the pressure off Oh man that sucks Alright let's see Fake news I want parkour Long sticks or some shit

Oh yeah just release the pressure And then there's no more pneumatic pressure in the door And then you can just close it like that Man that guy looked like an idiot i don't think he's telling the truth he didn't know what he was talking about of course i'm thinking it's something so complicated and it's like oh the simple answer it's just a switch yeah damn it i'm like so mad i'm about to become a republican i'm like that guy's a groomer obviously based on that answer i'm like why am i so angry about this answer i think bridget because you truly just i my imagination went off in a million directions

the second you said it and i think i get it i've gone through the same process this is why i googled it yeah uh uh what is something i'm not right overrated besides that guy's answer which was bullshit and a lie uh well besides that guy's answer, which was bullshit and a lie? Well, besides that guy's answer that was bullshit and a lie, I have to say Tesla's. I know we're going to talk about Elon Musk, but I felt this way even before I knew what a crummy person he is.

So I think Tesla's are overrated. I think they look weird. Every time I hear about them, I'm like, oh, they sound really fussy. I think they're overrated. And also they're made by elon musk so all right so this is a podcast where we use uh harsh language sometimes but i you can't use the word crummy i mean that's too much yeah too much to use about let's actually maybe let's take a break really quick to sort this out yeah what is it all those fucking lithium they need to mine to put in those batteries i mean there's so much there there are so many things like granted yeah the emissions are very different

but like the process to get there is a very chaotic resource extraction process. Yes. And I once read this absolutely wild thing on Twitter where someone was reporting that whatever the new version of Tesla is, had this glitch where, I don't know, I'm not even sure if it was a glitch, but it would, instead of stopping at stop signs, it would like roll through them at five to 13 miles an hour. And I was like, well, that's obviously problematic because you could get pulled over. And all of these Elon Musk stands were like, it's actually safer sometimes to do a rolling stop. And I was like, am I taking crazy pills?

Like if a cop sees you roll through a stop sign, they can pull you over. It doesn't matter if Elon Musk thinks it's safe or not. The argument became so strange where I was like, well, stopping is going zero miles per hour. If something's going more than that, you have not stopped. Am I right? Right.

When I'm coming to a stop sign and the car that i'm exchanging a stop with like we're deciding who's gonna go first like the thing that tells you okay that is a full stop they just hit the stop is when it like stops and like you see it like you know you can't do a rolling stop there like that's very dangerous like you have to I feel like you have to navigate that. Like you're yourself. I don't know, man. I stopped. You know why I take a full stop?

Because that's a favorite bullshit reason to get pulled over. Absolutely. I've been pulled over so many times for like the most like minute, like, you know, just like a fraction of a full stop when everybody's blowing i mean people don't fucking stop fully if that stop signs let's be real like especially in la like people just it's like slowing down until you figure out who you don't have to hit and keep going right that's

why i really i'm like nope let's make sure they can see that shit like pop like i stopped right and then fucking go yeah yeah my brother is a lawyer and he once told me that if you're ever driving in a situation where you might not want to have an interaction with the police, we will say, and you stop at a stop sign, make sure that you can feel the car go backward a little bit. Yeah. Right. And that's the thing. Yeah.

That's the tell. The pop. Yeah. Right. Or whatever. You're like, no. Because you know if you just slow and you're like, it's good enough and we're going. You're like, no, because you know if you just slow, and you're like, it's good enough, and we're going. No, no, no, no.

And didn't Elon Musk try and take somebody down who was revealing the environmental impact of Tesla? I think one of his own employees. Yeah, one of his employees. He waged a campaign against them, right? Such a champion of free speech. Yeah, our number one advocate. I'm glad he's going to own the free speech talk. You actually can't expect of free speech yeah our number one advocate i'm glad he's going to

you actually can't expect our free speech if you're in the capacity of an employee and you sign a contract and then you're doing disparaging things about your company okay i'm sorry so you can apply this energy right when you get booted off of a fucking uh non-public utility the website like twitter right you get you get that part right so well well anyway uh what is uh what's something you think is underrated bridget oh something i personally experienced as underrated this week was going to a movie matinee show on a weekday by yourself if you've ever if you're just like i'm done with this day i need a fucking Go to a movie. I went to a movie by myself randomly at 3 p.m. on Tuesday. Highly recommend.

Nobody else was in there. I had the whole theater to myself. Highly recommend. What did you see? You saw Sonic 2, right? Oh, it was a tough decision. I saw everything, everywhere, all at once. Have you all seen it?

Yeah. And you were in there solo? Yes. All right, Han. It it was something else i definitely recommend it if you haven't seen it definitely see it yeah yeah oh no i yeah i man it's funny that you were mentioning that too because before i was waiting for uh my wife uh her majesty to get back in town to watch it together and part of me was like man i just need to do my do me and just go like saturday morning like at 11 a.m like the early style matinee hell yeah but i went to the theater but i'm oh man that would have been wild to see that by myself yeah it was i highly

recommend yeah the the audience like is for it was a big part of the experience because people really fucking love that movie and i i don't know i appreciate that i haven't been to a movie that resonated that much with an audience so i'm going to see it again on friday night to see if the experience is different in a full year yeah yeah damn it's just like what i do with my time go see the same movie twice in one week there are also moments too or like watching it when you you'll i was laughing at certain things or i was the only person in the theater who thought something was funny and i'd be like and like everyone's quiet and i'm like what sorry no then i just then i looked over and then i was like was i the only person? That shit was funny.

Yeah, yeah. But I think that's the beauty of the film. It resonates in so many different ways for different people at different times. Yeah. So I think that's TDZ's front runner for best movie of the year already. Oh, yeah. We fuck with that movie. When you were gone, Jack Heese, when when he was guest hosting he told me it was

the best film he'd seen in 15 years yeah i saw him write that on twitter i was like okay yeah yeah and he the way his face changed when i asked him i was like oh did you see he goes yes it was the best film i've seen in 15 years i was like oh this okay we got something here i don't know what i didn't bother to ask what came out 15 years ago, but I just like that window of time. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.

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timeline being like you gotta admit this joke by elon musk about buying twitter is pretty funny and it just fucking sucks it's it's awful i mean god no just like it's like irl physical space shit posting yeah like i might buy twitter and might buy Twitter and then cause all this fucking commotion. And people were like, you hit some sick ass joke, dude. Sick joke. Yeah. It already looked pretty terrible. Even in the last couple of days with him basically putting the focus on some female executives

at the company to try and oust them or make it the situation untenable and a lot of people like is he trying to wiggle out of this uh buyout clause because he'd have to pay people um and if they quit before they're under different circumstances that might change the the financial aspects of it but either way like it nothing about it looks honorable. Yeah. And Miles, I'm so glad that you brought that up. One of the employees that he's been, I guess, on a harassment campaign against this week is a prominent woman of color at Twitter. And her role is really working to make Twitter less hospitable to things like online harassment, disinformation,

conspiracy theories, and extremists and, you know, hate speech. And so I think that in attacking her specifically, he's doing two really clear and important things. One, he's attacking a woman of color because he knows that women of color online are disproportionately targets for things like harassment. And so I think that he is signaling to his followers, like harass this person. And two, I think he's trying to make clear, this is what you can expect from how I will run Twitter.

I will, you know, I will, he's already showing us who he is. He is someone who is okay harassing women of color for just trying to do their jobs. And so I think those are two really important things that we need to be super clear on i also i kind of agree with you i think that it it seems before that the ink is even dry on this deal he is behaving in these ways that all that would make a person

observing question like are you trying to tank this deal what is going on yeah yeah i mean so like there's this reuters kind of opinion piece that's basically saying like he's not gonna do it he always does shit like this where he you know claims uh he's going to i think he said that he was gonna uh set up a peanut brittle brittle company to take on warren buffett's iconic uh sees candies then he changed his mind um and like this kind of opinion piece on reuters is like so this is just more of the same shit he also said he was gonna like cure world hunger um i'm pretty sure he hasn't done that uh and but i i really think we, we need to recognize that there's a commonality

between him and Trump, not just in the way that they're dominating, but also in the way that like, this is the number one currency for them is attention. And like the, this has given him more attention than he's ever had, I guess, which is shocking because he's already had i guess which is shocking because he's already had like way too much um and like he's not he's not gonna let this go just because like you know people tell him it's a bad financial move like this is uh has just made him like even more central to the conversations people are having and he does not give a fuck if like those conversations are critical it feels like um but yeah well yeah and i and i think he's in some way he's found a way to or not someone he's found a way to like stifle the conversation just like he can have his

hand you know his finger on the on the button and I'm sure that there's another element of that, that must feel good to him for someone who like, probably he's not, she's not stupid. He knows there are people who talk shit about him, but I'm sure that there's something about that in the back of his mind too. It's like, Oh, wouldn't that be good? Cause then I can show them what's up too. If I run Twitter, there's just a lot of, you can tell that there isn't, there's really nothing admirable about him wanting to buy it. And we were talking about this in yesterday's episode's episode it's like it's not even clear what he's trying to do even if it were a business like how he's even trying to run it even if it were a business so it has a lot of the trappings of like impulsive uh you know self-centered person thinking that this is a

good idea without fully thinking it through but also it does appeal to him because he he i think he really feels super powerful to even have this thing happening around where people like oh my god elon musk is gonna buy twitter and that for sure is also very energizing for him i'm like i do think that an underrated like detail is that he seems to be like openly a racist and white supremacist. His company had to pay $136 million to a black man who was racially harassed while working at Tesla. But also this detail, Bridget, that you pointed out in your most recent episode of There Are No Girls on the Internet,

that black workers report being like multiple workers for tesla report being moved to the back of the floor when he would visit like to keep them out of his sight like that like we know what the fuck is going on here like this is not he he's not quiet about it. Clearly people, if that's like a policy that happens. Yeah. And there was something so heartbreaking about that, that detail, because I think that you're right. Like I have no, you know, I've never met the Mark Zuckerbergs or the Bezos's of the world,

but there's something so, and I'm sure they're awful. I have a lot of complaints about the way they run their platforms. However, there is something so visceral about that detail and so personal where it's like, oh, when he visits the factory, y'all have to go. You need to physically hide because he can't even stand to look at your black faces.

There's something so, and then hearing this, not just from one worker, but multiple workers. And I also wanted to mention the lawsuit that you mentioned in that lawsuit where that former black staffer of Tesla was awarded millions of dollars. Tesla tried to have the courts lower the amount of money they had to pay him to, I think like $700,000. And the courts basically were like, no, you need to pay him millions of dollars for what you have done this person talks about how he suffered a post-traumatic stress disorder from the disgusting racist treatment that he suffered while working at Tesla so yeah I just think that you know when someone shows you who they are it's important to believe them and I

feel like Elon Musk goes out of his way to make it very clear who he is and so people who ignore this are really making a choice to ignore what i feel is so plain in front of all of us you know what i mean right yeah and like to that i i don't know if you were out jack when we were talking about that lawsuit but you know just the the way that a lot there are many lawsuits there are more than one there are more than a few black employees of tesla who've been like it's awful like even like to the thing of like working out of sight like they were referring to parts of the plant as like the slave ship or the dark side to for like that that's the culture that they're like that's just how they're allowed to cook over there and

they even i remember once that was that lawsuit you know was was being decided they put out a blog post that they're like we've had over like we've you know the uh department of fair of a fair employment has investigated like fifth us 50 times and has never found anything wow 50 times huh only oh they only had to come by here 50 times like also in in america where uh yeah but i'm just guessing they're not gonna go out of their way to slap the hand of the billionaire uh oh and and and like the agency was also like that's not precisely true but okay like that's why we're here because they we found things right yeah and then also you know not only have people taken them to court for racist treatment also sexist harassment at the workplace and you know when you look at the way that elon musk tweets which is often very kind of juvenile sexism, you know, the kind of stuff that maybe you might have thought was funny when you were in ninth grade trying to be edgy.

I have no trouble believing that this is a top down culture problem that it's, you know, not only is it a pervasive racist sexist culture, but that that vibe comes from the top and that means elon musk i think that seems very clear to me oh yeah oh yeah it's i mean that that's always the that's what's bringing all the creeps to the yard you know what i mean is elon and they see what he does they're like oh i want to move like that and i can and you can already tell based on what he thinks is appropriate or inappropriate. You're like, perfect. This person is going to tell me I'm being sexist or racist. They know I'm joking. So this is perfect. Yeah. And I can totally see how, you know, there's a, probably a real interesting mixture of people who are really intrigued by the prospect of working on like really cool technology and, and like,

you know, furthering their own careers in science and things like that. And then you mix that with other people who are like completely like, I don't know, dude, I like the fucking vibes here and they're kind of weird. Yeah. I think there's like some,

like the, the tweet that I, that somebody in my timeline was like, God admit it was funny was just him being like next I'm gonna buy Coca-Cola and put the cocaine back and I do not have to admit that's funny that's just a pop culture reference

but I do think it gets at this appeal that he has to people that it's it's like the Adam Sandler movie Big Daddy where like an idiot won a bunch of money and like does That's Mr. Deeds

That's Mr. Deeds Well I've never seen Mr. Deeds Don't start Big Daddy he adopts a kid Cole and Dylan Sprouse Young Cole and Dylan Sprouse He also won a bunch of money from a like getting hit by a cab I think

yeah okay so but he still works that toll booth job Mr. Deeds but he's like that I I think that's like part of the thing is like this guy's an idiot but he has like all this money uh he's winning we can't say shit to him now um and it's just i don't know it's truly a bummer um it's shitty billy madison yeah shitty billy madison bought twitter um and there's like the stuff that we're hoping will happen is not well the government will step in and like make this a utility or you know recognize that this person is like a danger to um freedom uh and instead it's like we hope he decides not to do it because it's a bad investment like that's where we are and it just feels very i don't know it reminded me of this other like russia story from last week where uh russia's federal security service uh arrested a group of six russian neo-nazis who were plotting to

assassinate a russian state tv talk show host. But like the, the neo-Nazis in question were just like journalists critical of the state TV. The person they were supposedly trying to assassinate had once praised Hitler as a very brave man and even produced an admiring documentary about Mussolini. So like, it's,

it's a Nazi who they were supposedly trying to assassinate. And like, clearly the thing that they're pissed off about is that they're critical of state run TV. But it reminded me of that just because it's like, this shit is now just being done out in the open. It's just like the racist guy is going to take over twitter and like start and like let the nazis back on and like there's not

it's not a thing where like there's an appeal to authority it's just a we're like hoping that it doesn't happen by some like stroke of luck at this point yeah or you're counting on we hope a billionaire knows better right oh i don't we'll see about that i think the only thing that could potentially act as a safeguard is that the eu has pretty forcefully said like if there's not real moderation here like we won't we're not gonna fuck with in the eu like we'll ban it uh so that's one potential thing i mean there are these like little things where it's like yeah you can't just go foot off the fucking brake and see what happens i mean you can but it's sure it's certainly not going to help like twitter as a company so that's why i think there's so many

dimensions to it's like do you really not give a fuck you ready to eat 44 billion dollars like to just like to fully go into your absolutist like version of free speech and see where that experiment goes or is this is it going to be more long term you're going to try and pick people off slowly and turn up the heat on twitter and sanitize it of all like the leftists or people who are like advocating for equality and like that's the plan i think that's it i mean i something that i've really thought a lot about this week is why twitter why twitter even before elon musk why was twitter this hotbed of sort of quote-unquote culture wars and all of that and i think it's not a coincidence that all of this has really imploded around twitter i think that uh extremists uh people on people on the far

right they have watched people who traditionally are marginalized and don't have a lot of institutional power or support use platforms like twitter to build movements and to democratize our ability to have a platform and a voice we've built things like me too uh black lives matter using these platforms right we've been able to really like use them to get some more power and to sort of be part of the conversation in ways that we've always been

traditionally locked out of. And I think that they see this medium as something they need to take back. I think that they find that very threatening to watch people who traditionally did not have a lot of power or a lot of voice use these platforms to take back that power and that voice. And I think that this is part and parcel of a plan to make that harder, to go back to a time where we didn't really have those kinds of voices or those kinds of platforms, even if we built them ourselves.

Yeah, I think that's a very good point and probably absolutely true. If it's not on a fucking flow chart in Elon Musk's office, it's definitely somewhere in his brain. That's something that scares him and makes him uncomfortable. Well, yeah, because I think the source of a lot of headaches for him, you can draw a line to twitter or like these or or things are discussed very energetically on twitter uh and i think again

like you're saying bridget that is it's freaky if you're like a you know 0.1 percenter and you look out your window and twitter's outside and you're like damn like they're able to get together real fucking quick on shit over there like that's not good for you know my ghastly aims but yeah i i think that's where we see it's like what version is it is it this is it completely uh like aggressive and you know from day one the flood gates open is it this version where it's stealthily trying to make it look like no no twitter is not changing and it is and it's much more you know uh insidious and you know with a smile on its face but yeah i i it the other part of it there's just so many of these other dimensions like how the eu would respond like how china like he has so much so much business in china and they don't like twitter

what happens then when they see how like other people use it there are so many other dimensions to it I'm just so curious to know like to begin to really see it come together but all of these things are possible and they're all real risks yeah I've heard the metaphor before that like you don't notice that things are getting worse because it's like a pot and a or a frog in a pot of water that's like slowly getting hotter. And like, these are the moments where it like really hits me like, oh yeah, this is getting much hotter. It's like uncomfortably,

unhealthily hot right now for- And if that's the case, I mean, then it's really incumbent on people who are using Twitter for good things or like not shit posting and being racist to, you know, maybe use the little time we have left on Twitter to organize a way to figure out like how to keep something like this alive.

Because it is powerful. I mean, like most people really do use it for news. You know, not everyone is using Twitter to communicate. Like a lot of people really like Twitter because they're like, I can't man, I can just look up a city and just see what's going off because people are talking about it.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back um yeah so like i said i was i was just tying a a line between elon musk and this uh rush of frame up because i do feel like a lot of this sensibility um of yeah we don't have to like try to be convincing in our lie we just like say the lie and then stick with it and yeah it doesn't matter like kind of started in in russia and like first you know uh trump trump obviously was like the number one proprietor in america of it but um this one i mean we've people been people been doing this one for for a while i'd say you know the don't worry man it's

calling weapons of mass destruction man fucking they're we're good yeah yellow cake man ton of but eventually they were like we didn't find any you know yeah um fuck yeah so russia's federal security service fsb arrested a group of six russian what they're claiming are neo-nazis who are plotting to assassinate a russian state tv talk show host um and yeah things just like seemed really fishy right off the bat starting with the fact that uh the supposed target of the of their uh plot was this um state russian state tv like you know host presenter person uh who uh has said has praised hitler as a very brave man and even produced an admiring documentary about mussolini so yeah what um because you know that's we we always just like stick photos to our computer speakers um they uh also had three copies of the game set of the sims um and and people were like what what the fuck is that doing there that's so weird it's

like three right three like discs of the sims why not a portrait of a portrait of hitler swastika t mind comp and three copies of the sims expansion packs so the work these are nazi hitmen the working theory is that someone uh you know did fabricate this evidence and were told uh they were told to get three sims as in three sims cards and sim cards and they fucking missed the uh subtlety oh my god and when the investigative committee of the russian federation later posted a video uh of the raid they had blared out the the sims um yeah because it's it's like so it really does like it's like the commander wasn't there, right? He's texting everybody, look, get a swastika t-shirt, get some like SS patches, put up a picture of Hitler, the three Sims, do all that, you know, make it look real shady.

You know, Nazi shit. Right. And then he just goes and like takes a picture and the guy's like, mother, he's like, what the fuck is that? What are those three games on the bed? he's like three sims fuck like because it really doesn't like it's put out there as if it's like you have to take a picture of this this is relevant to the case you know what i mean it's like he took it's like he said and they had five soup ladles you know what i mean like that's not relevant it's in the house but why put that shit there it's clear that the person's directive was take all the pictures including the three sims

to uh just for for who for what to again i think this is all like you're saying the low energy effort to just say you see there's neo-nazis in ukraine and they're coming after people in russia and that's what all of this is about that's why we're there because we put out a swastika t-shirt a really loosely taped photo of hitler to a bluetooth speaker and three copies of the sims um and then the target quote uh of the of the attack who's just like their Wolf Blitzer, like some TV person, except if people still watched CNN. But he went on TV and claimed the plot was all hatched by Zelensky because Zelensky wanted to be a presenter on their state-run channel, but wasn't talented enough. We're doing the old Donaldald trump thing yeah they're haters

you should have seen it they were begging me for a job and then i said no so that's why they lied now okay um that's i mean so that's that's pretty pretty questionable uh child logic at work there it would seem um poor guy so like he was doing it because he hates me and uh right he's like what he he actually is on the record saying he wished he was as handsome as me so um yeah i have some i have some texts where he's like asking me for pointers like on how to look like me but i like i was like i was like seriously dude we're like in a war like i can't do this right now um but yeah tough times tough times um all right i just wanted to continue complaining about npr um for for because we didn't get all the way through the story uh super producer trisha did a bunch of really good research along with super producer Becca on just like,

you know, where, where this, so Bridget, like basically my point is like, I listened to NPR for the first time in a year and just found the tone, which is, I don't think it's changed,

but it just feels insane to me. Like it feels very like gentle, but like they're talking about like gentle mixed with like bored and whatever. And so then like the Russians came in and, you know, they're reporting on war crimes, but they're doing it in like a way that's like,

just feels so strange. And basically feels like if we, if we were all hearing it again for the first time we would all be like what the fuck is happening right now um so we talked about that and like some psychoanalysis on like neoliberals like why this might be might be happening might be necessary for them right now um you know super producer tricia like did a deep dive into like sort of the history of just basically what i've heard described as like tv english um but it's like sort of the um accent list is how it's often described english that people speak with on TV, but then, you know, say calling something accentless,

just, you know, positioned yourself as thinking that a certain accent, a certain way of speaking American English doesn't have an accent, basically. The presumed audience is an english monolingual speaker um and when the voice and language of the speaker this is i'm just going to read directly from what trisha wrote when the voice and language of the speaker is intended to not make the listener uncomfortable the placidity of the npr voice also feeds into this like the rest of the media they want listeners to feel a certain amount of fear which will push them to keep listening and not uh and not be too uncomfortable or panic that will make them feel like they're also experiencing the crisis um so they you know they choose to speak like a group of people who aren't affected by the crises uh they are but they still like want to talk about

it and the accent emulates people who who don't suffer the human rights crises and wars and disasters that NPR reports on. And she found examples of people who were prohibited from, or just their story wasn't accepted on NPR because they were told that they speak with too much of an accent. Hear that a lot. A lot of people hear that a lot. Yeah.

On some level, you know. It's like, yeah, but what is that voice exactly? I don't know if it's, I mean, at this point, it feels like this thing where it naturally evolved, right? Where I get that there's just, you know, like in the radio announcer days, people all spoke like this. And we're like right where i i get that there's just you know like in the radio announcer days people all spoke like this and we're like right the fuck is that and then we slowly got into something a little less like uh you know good evening brother here is the weather for today i sound like david lynch doing the fucking weather on kcrw um but you know even now it's like then we had this like i think really coming in and like the out of the 80s and into the 90s like the real mpr voice that i feel like i like as a kid i was like

oh wow it's the nice talk radio or whatever that's less animated and it's weird like i'm not sure if they even know they're doing it yeah i know like they do either and i know that they do on some level because it's part of the aesthetic but if it's like about to say like so to the point it's like we have to speak like this in order to get people to fucking tune in i think it it it's sort of it's just a a function of you know that way of looking at things yeah i think it i think it's interesting not not necessarily as like a critique of npr like going in and we're gonna to catch them being like, you have to talk to them like children because like, you know, and even if they are saying that, like that's, I think it's interesting about what it reveals about the listeners of NPR more than anything.

Yeah. I think that the listeners of NPR, I mean, if you're on the left and where you're getting your audio news and commentaries, NPR, I do feel like that probably suggests that you're a certain kind of person. Because there's so many different places to get news and commentary in the audio format. If you're sticking with NPR, I feel like perhaps you're looking for a certain kind of tone, I guess. It's so funny that we're talking about this. When I first started working as a podcaster and in audio, I thought that I had to do that voice to be taken seriously. When I go back and listen to the early days of Miam podcasts, I can tell that I'm sort of, I'm doing my NPR voice. You know, it's very monotone. You would think that I am talking about things happening

in a country where I have never even visited as opposed to my own country. I'm talking about things that I have no real opinion on. Here's just some very gently delivered information about what could be happening somewhere hypothetically. You know, so I think that there was a time very gently delivered information about what could be happening somewhere, hypothetically. Yeah. So I think that there was a time where NPR and I, yeah,

no shade to NPR, but there was a time where I think that they really were influential and how other people did radio and did audio and did podcasting. I will say. Yeah, for sure. I think that's something, you know, when Super Producer Ana and I were first starting

the LA HowStuffWorks offices, we talked about we wanted to steer away from the NPR aesthetic because it was so pervasive. It was just like, so that's what people thought podcasts sounded like for a long time. But that's so interesting describing it as like, even though you were describing America, you felt pressure to like describe it

like it was a country where you'd never been because that really, like that was kind of what we had landed on yesterday is that like by doing this and like adding this tone of, um, uh, of like remove, like,

I keep saying it's like, feels like they're on Xanax because they like feel like they're like removed from the anxiety, uh, that, you know, the rest of the, that they're talking about,

like an anxious, an anxiety provoking situation uh they're describing it like with the humanity and the emotion removed from it and it's yeah it just feels like that has to be at some level a conscious decision um that they're like uh perpetuating because they just have seen it work and i think they see it work so well because they're the npr listener wants wants to have be told about the story like be told about the problem but then then not feel bad about it. No, you can't confront the actual uncomfortableness of the story. That's all it is. It's to tell you enough about the story without informing you enough that you can actually begin to empathize.

Really, I think that's what it is. It really dulls your ability to connect with the people that are even being talked about in the story. Even that one where the woman was talking about she was fleeing like artillery like shelling from russians and she fled to her basement and was like well thank god she had a little bit of food but it's just done as like like we were saying and you know we're hearing her you can hear in her voice she's like she you can tell i don't speak ukrainian but you can tell this person isn't speaking calmly about the situation they were in but the the translator's voice is and it not that it has to be an acted out version but it comes in more like thank god i had potatoes

and some extra oil in the house and also i had a cow so i was able to get milk and you're like that was electrifying compared to the uh to the translator but like and even like you know you go on npr's page right now there's there's stuff where there's a headline says why this economy may be sturdier than it looks when i say okay maybe this has something to do with the lived experience of people who are working in the like as part of the economy and maybe there's some good news all it's about is gdp and shit the word wage only shows up once and it's not even and it's like it's it's a quote about someone talking about like she also increased her prices to offset rising costs of cotton polyester and

spandex as well as higher wages for her employees right so now the empathy isn't about there's no there's no need to feel bad about anyone in this story or even to tell people. Like in this version, the word wages is mentioned in the context of like, man, poor people asking for too much money, huh? Yeah. Despite this, the lived experience of your neighbors might be completely different to some of these headlines about the economy. And I think that's where, because that's the uncomfortable part. lines about the economy and i think that's where because that's the uncomfortable part if you're going to talk about the economy like is it going to be a real thing of like we spoke to working parents single parents people who live here people who live there about what just what even though

we're seeing this economy stuff what's it like for them and even if when when you get pieces like that are we going to get the like is it going to get to the point where someone would listen to it and then be outraged? Right. Yeah. And I think, I mean, I have to mention, we are seeing this interesting moment where NPR seems to be kind of hemorrhaging young talent of color, like young audio talent. And I have to wonder if there's something related there that, you know, people want, I feel like people get into audio journalism because there's

an intimacy to the storytelling. You can hear, you know, listening to that Ukrainian woman tell her story. Even if you don't speak the language, you can hear it in her voice. And I think that's what, that's what draws people to audio storytelling in the first place. And I think if you're someplace where the entire vibe is not reflecting that humanity, that intimacy, that authenticity, and that truth through audio, it does seem to be a little bit of a disconnect. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was saying yesterday, like you can mint a Bitcoin with the amount of like mental work and like pretzeling of themselves that is required to achieve the cognitive dissonance required to still be on board with like the mainstream media and like DNC sort of narratives where like check on the GDP every month because that's the thing that matters and we just like care about gdp and stuff like that and i just think that's that's coming out in in this weird way uh and then i also want

to talk about so jm our writer from canada uh says the same thing is happening uh on the cbc and has always been happening on the cbc um but he has an alternate explanation that they like found out about uh uh hsr or asmr and are are like because they like keep doing stories about like they've done a lot of stories about asmr and like it does seem to be his theory is they're like ramping it up because they were like oh yeah, like this makes people feel good. Oh yeah, morning becomes eclectic on KCRW. I'm like, I feel like I'm in the middle of yawning the whole time I'm listening to it. Right.

Like the music's great, but like, they're like, Milvina, what's going on this weekend? They're like, well, actually at the Getty, there's going to be a fantastic display of West African art. And you're like, uh-huh, uh-huh, uh-huh. It's not, it's, I get it. It's soothing, but I do find myself, you know, in a trance to hearing it, but not even that I'm like listening. It's like, oh, this is very like, it's that monotone that really, I don't know, it gets you. do you all remember that saturday night live bit um the delicious delicious dish sweaty balls yeah yeah so that's the thing

is that i don't know if at that time like they it was some of their shows spoke like this and it was the ones about like you know wine and leaves and like foliage and shit and then they had more a more appropriate tone like when talking about news and war crimes but now the whole thing is it's like listening to those characters do the news about the russian invasion of ukraine um and it's very weird it's very strange well you know again i think the the effective thing about you know uh neoliberalism and these news things that are they're helping people kind of stay in this place is that it helps people not stay in a place of comfort and not really want to do anything radical or have the mindset that there's a need for radical change. That's for sure.

And I think it's the same thing, like, even with the uprisings, right? We barely heard people that were in the streets talking on TV, if ever. And if it was, like, find the angriest motherfucker you can find and put them on TV. Don't get the people who are really there trying to say something and we'd always be like why are they never talking to the people that are in the streets it's always like somebody from like 50 feet away 100 feet away i'm like and now that you can see they're gathering over here now and blah blah like doing it like they're calling a fucking horse race or some shit but are the we're not you're not doing us the service of hearing the people who decided to enter physical space why they are there, really, rather than your commentary from 100,000 feet away and speculating and then being able to shape the entire narrative from there rather than hearing it from people's mouth.

I think that goes back to who is listening. I mean, as I said earlier, I think if you're in 2022, if you're getting your commentary and your news from NPR, I think that you're not looking for anything radical. I think that you're not looking to be moved into action or feeling discomfort or feeling bad or feeling complicit, you know, heaven forbid. I think that if you're not, and not again, not to disparage NPR listeners.

I listen to some of their programming. My parents, I grew up on public radio, you know, not to disparage them. listeners. I listen to some of their programming. My parents, I grew up on public radio, not to disparage them, but I think that what you're describing is perhaps not someone who is looking for that kind of, you know, those kinds of feelings from their commentary or their news. They're not looking to feel engaged in that way,

I don't think. Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, zeitgang if you if you uh feel the same way if you hear like an npr clip that is particularly egregious hit me up i'm i'm going to keep thinking about this and i'd love to you know get get more evidence uh or you know more more thoughts on it so so hit me up you know what more, more thoughts on it. So, so hit me up.

You know what, maybe Jack, we might have to do an episode in that voice just to see how the audience responds. And we'll say, Hello the internet and welcome to another episode of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist. Yeah. Oh, you're actually quite good at that for somebody who dislikes it so much. Bridget, it's been such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist.

Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? Well, I would be so honored and so pleased if folks checked out my podcast on this very network. There are no girls on the internet. We've been talking about Elon Musk this week. So please check it out. You can find me on Twitter at Bridget Marie

and you can find me on Instagram at Bridget Marie in DC. Yeah, yup. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh yes, this tweet from Brittany Van Horn. If we want to raise the money to buy twitter back and put it in the hands of the people we're gonna have to put on the greatest talent show this town's ever seen hell yeah miles where can people find you what's the tweet you've been enjoying

uh man you can find me on twitter and uh instagram at miles of gray also the other pod for 20 day fiance also the basketball podcast miles and jack got mad boosties uh check that out we look we're just we're just speaking we're just loving the loving the game of basketball no hateration no hateration um it's been very refreshing to have a place where i can go and just be excited about john morant and uh my team the 76ers and not have to deal with um bill simmons talking about like how this guy's got no hoops iq um and fuck that guy. What did he say? Fuck Jalen Green? Fuck Jalen Green. Cool, man.

Okay. Okay. Anyways, it's a great show. Go check it out. Go check it out. You know, get in or get out. But you know what? The bus is taking off and we'd love to have you with us.

Okay. A tweet that I like. First one from at not funny L tweeted, my mother staring down at my open casket. Is that what you're wearing and comb at win w-y-n-n-e tweeted incense looks like skinny corn dog and i like that and it's like yeah it looks like the stick is like batter dipped. Why the fuck does it look like that? That's so weird. It's the same technology. We take a stick, we got to dip it, we got to dip it.

Anyway, shout out to you. It does look like skinny corn dog. Skinny corn dog. Incense looks like skinny corn dog. I think it's the bad grammar that also makes this tweet so memorable for me um throw and then one more i think was just a good idea at clumsy alu uh tweeted instead of leaving twitter we should all block elon musk but i don't know if that'll help yeah i don't think that would be a significant uh thing i did lose a bunch of followers over the past couple days

uh who are principled people who have decided to leave Twitter, but please come back. I miss you. That's true. That's how I got to know. I got lost. All my followers. I think they were,

they were all bots. Yeah. Yeah. You went down to one follower. It was crazy to see. Yeah. My one follower, my mom,

shout out to you, mom. I appreciate you buying those bots. You're a good mom. Get me those. Get me to 10k um a 24 year old virgin tweeted uh women be dating men that are nimble and then act all surprised when he jumps over a candlestick is that about you jack yeah you know guilty as charge um and then and then uh will at fuck mary will uh tweeted it finally happened my photos app generated the saddest video possible and it's like you know how your photo app will like just set set something up for you do a little surprise uh and it says tasty bites over the years

and it's like all these pictures of the most depressing meals that i think you had taken pictures of in the first place because they were so depressing looking like it's like a kid's meal of like uh macaroni and cheese and stuff and it's like set to this weird classical piece of music um so i don't know it's worth watching it really resonated with me because those um those like algorithmically generated photo slideshows always very strange um first ballot podcast set the john morant dunk uh in extreme slow motion to uh stretch my hands, part one, and it's the perfect treatment of that.

So highly recommend that. And then Ordinary at Ordinary also tweeted, brain cactus me. Okay. Brain touch it. Me, but it's sharp. Brain.

I know, but how sharp? And that is, that is the exact dialogue that goes on every time I see a cactus. Oh yeah. I cannot stop myself. Always surprised. So you can find me liking tweets like that on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy oh um well this is going to be a great track from the artist lucy uh really new new new single called almost blue uh the vocal chopped samples on here with a really nice, familiar

sort of pop R&B instrumental bed will probably bring all of your neighbors to your yard because they're going to think there's some kind of cookout happening or maybe some other kind of event. So slap this one, bump this in your Civic. This is Lucy with Almost Blue. There you go.

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