The Daily Zeitgeist - Elon Muskiavelli? Just Plane Dangerous! 08.23.23

Episode Date: August 23, 2023

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get your podcast presented by capital one founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 301 episode two of their daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Wednesday, August 23rd, 2023. Oh, yeah. Two, three, two, three. Oh, I mean, if you're not seeing the patterns, I don't know what to tell you. And you should know because it's National Cuban Sandwich Day. National Sponge Cake Day.

National Ride the Wind Day. Ride the Wind? Yeah. Hell yeah. Day, National Ride the Wind Day. Ride the Wind? Yeah. But it shows a picture of an old Wright Brothers plane, so it might be... Yeah, you celebrate... Is that an extreme sport? Just like flying

on extremely old... Back then, I think so, when it was just people who were like, I'm down to die in a rickety collection of popsicle sticks and construction paper with a bicycle at the bottom you know yeah i'm going to become a kite and we'll see how that goes yeah shout out to the right brothers you know i mean we've said if we've said it once we've said it a thousand times my name is jack o'.a. I know this little fella named Ronnie, grinds teeth like on yayo. If I ever tell you about Ronnie,

you would say he's dropping in the polls because he's unlikable. Unlikable. Me say it. Unlikable and so forth. Or not built for this. Not built for this. Courtesy of the casserole casanova um yeah yeah and based

on that ronda santa clip where he his eyes go through so much they do a masked rage complete inner death um and then like sorrow deep profound generational sorrow i don't know man uh it's dark it seems like it's dark in there yeah i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray it's miles gray aka look at me i'm ronnie d lousy with Unlikeability Won't get ahead Cause I'm polling near dead I can't I'm Ronnie D

Shout out Johnny D Avis with that wonderful Grease Sandra D A.K.A. you know what I mean The one fucking musical I really actually do know Grease is the word So many bangers on that soundtrack Are there any black people in Grease? D.A.K.A. You know what I mean? The one fucking musical I really actually do know. Yes. So many bangers on that soundtrack. Are there any black people in Greece?

I don't know if they're are there black. Like, I know they might be in the background, but the main character. I always I always had like a connection with the opening of Greece when it was animated because there was like a dude with an Afro. And I was like, yes, yes. Representation in the animated opening. But maybe not there uh well miles we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an actor host writer who you know from

uh back in the day on best week ever that's the first place i saw him on this podcast go fact yourself on the maximum fun network it's jay keith van strata i was not informed that there would be uh musical parodies But I'm on board for it Whatever you want By the way, Miles, I thought you were asking Are there black people in the country of Greece? Oh, oh, oh

I mean, Giannis Definitely answers that question In the movie Yes, yes, not Elas The country of Greece, no, no, no The the film g-r-e-a-s yes no in that case uh no yeah but it was the 50s everybody was white in the it was the 70s version of the 50s everybody in the 50s looked like they were in their 30s in high school it was just like that that yeah that mindset definitely like we see like pleasantville

also where i feel they're like i don't know i think black people were invented like in the 60s when the civil rights like movement came about i don't know just for this movie we'll just in the 60s yeah that's the that's the perception that and fantasy movies and literature some things do predate the existence of human beings that have been on this planet since the beginning yeah anyways jakey it's been a while how have you been um i feel like it's it was the last time you were on this show prior to the pandemic i believe so yes this is my first uh yeah in person remember remember in person remember people yeah people used to like see each other and hang out in person yeah there were snacks there were uh there were snacks white there were whiteboards yeah we were just

talking reminiscent about how about moon cheese yeah i believe i discovered moon cheese from uh being on this show yeah at our studio our studio used to have snacks snacks were flowing wow did someone come and remove them like is there a stash somewhere are they just still just rotting yeah i still go in the studio every once in a while yeah yeah and there's there are shows that still record at the studio it's just we have child care situations we have home studios that we've built right um we can't be in the same room yeah some of us you could cut it with a knife yeah yeah it's like watching yeah we moved on on go factor stuff we just we used to do all live audience shows you jack you were on one of them and then

yeah pandemic times we uh we segued to doing all zoom shows and now we're kind of doing a mix so we're we do about half half and half nice zoom and in person and yeah you know disadvantages i imagine you could you guys get to talk to a lot of people that you wouldn't get to talk to because they're not in the la area yeah oh yeah you're not that ambitious i don't know we we try to do that no yeah we definitely we go for people who are just like in san diego yeah yeah yeah we even had someone from palm springs on recently that was crazy yeah that was wild yeah um but we are gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first a couple of things we're talking about uh the ronan farrow article about elon musk hath dropped and elon musk is very powerful it turns out outside it's weird because he's like on such a little power trip

as like the king of his little fiefdom on Twitter but that is not for a lack of power elsewhere in his life because he like can turn off the internet for the entire Ukraine like fighting force

and has done that multiple times because like Putin hit him up and was like hey come on come on and they they like putin is the only person who might be richer than elon so i i can see how they would vibe with each other so we'll talk about that article we'll talk about uh debate night in america uh gop will be debating tonight will not feature donald trump he's got something going on i forget what it is um so we'll just talk about who to look out for in the debate um there was a new york times article that raised a red flag about airlines in the united states that had all the all the hallmarks of like a real

real fucked up situation uh like there's this long section where like the head of the faa is like guys fatalities are basically impossible under us like we are we virtually this is a quote virtually eliminated the risk of fatalities aboard U.S. commercial airlines. And then contrast that with people actually doing the work on the ground. And they're like, the staffing shortage is crazy. It's very dangerous out here. Yeah, just plain dangerous. And the pun was not even intended there.

No, it wasn't. They're spelled differently. But executives always know more about what's true than people on the ground, right? Yeah, so we're good here. Well, I'm looking at the line and it's going up. So you tell me it's bad. We're good over here.

All of that, plenty more. But first, Jay Keith, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? Well, I am now officially middle-aged uh and therefore i have been watching colombo um it is an excellent program that i used to make fun of people uh who watched it and uh as such when i watch it i end up doing an internet search for each particular episode or an actor whose name looks familiar, who's someone that I recognize. So most, so I believe my last four searches, I have it here were, uh, Columbo, Katie Segal, uh, Columbo, Jose Ferrer, Columbo, Vic Tabak, all of them appeared in, uh,

Columbo, uh, and then, uh, Columbo, uh, giant robot. Uh, and it turned out they actually use the same Robbie, the robot from a lost in Space in an episode of Columbo. So that's where I am with things, is identifying who are making some of their first show business appearances, or last show business appearances, in episodes of Columbo. It is streaming

on Peacock, and I cannot recommend it enough. Yeah, there's a lot of... I just saw an article, I forget, like, about how, like, the OC was, like, you know, so many stars passed through the OC enough yeah there's there's a lot of i just saw an article i forget like about how like the oc was like you know so many stars passed through the oc on their way to super stardom but like you know a lot of people were on colombo too a lot of people on colombo people yeah that's what's so great is you have some you know some incredible screen legend john cassavetes has an entire episode he and peter falk i learned later were uh good friends uh and then uh i then i saw in

the credits Katie Segal and I was like, what? How could Katie Segal be in this? I thought she wasn't around until Married with Children. And she had a cameo. I think her second thing she ever did is a secretary in an episode. And it turned out she got the job because her dad directed the episode. Alive and well in the 1970s.

By the way, I was watching the pilot episode and I was like, wow, it really grabbed me right away. was like wow those are really good shots wow this is so visually interesting wow look at that and then the credits come on directed by Steven Spielberg wow directed the first episode of Columbo

which means he's probably which means he probably is still getting residuals for his downplaying the oh yeah if you yeah you directed the pilot you're locked in. That's good to hear. Yeah. Yeah. Kim Cattrall

Samantha from the from Sex in the City was also in an episode of Columbo like I'm trying not to look ahead because I like being delighted and surprised, you know, when you find out like Martin Landau is playing twins that kind of stuff. i wonder what those effects are like yeah oh terrible yeah well that's the other interesting thing is is that uh they really do have like making some good

efforts to do visual effects there are times where like like someone will will stare at someone and then in their sunglasses you'll have some sort of a projection of what was there but it won't quite match up or like they'll, they'll try to show something that's on a TV that had obviously been whatever their 1970s version of road road. Yeah. Yeah. And you can kind of see the edges,

but God love him for trying. Yeah. And they got the robot to type. I mean, come on. I think 74. I think Columbo is also the show that we were talking about. Um,

during the, one of our writers strike episodes, when we were talking about, um, during the, one of our writers strike episodes when we were talking to some TV writers that a lot of like the best TV writing goes back to Columbo. Stephen Botchko was one of the early writers. Yeah, Stephen Botchko started it. And then like every great TV writer like worked under him. And then like they all came. So it's like this like very linear yeah like

family tree of tv writers who like all like one generation to the next like pass it on to each other yeah and it all like goes back to colombo basically and then to add another uh real life uh murder angle is a william link who was the co-creator he his house which I was in because I think he had some connection to my my college that I went to uh was where the Menendez brothers uh killed their parents whoa he lived there after that yeah yeah oh wow so nothing like a fan you know yeah the guy just the guy just loves murder yeah yeah just you know it's a thing kind of the murder guy I'm the i'm the murder guy among kind of a weird guy what are you gonna do you know but i got money that's crazy that the pilot

episode was directed by spielberg yeah how old was spielberg i had to be in his 20s i mean he was he was still kind of a wonder of under kids when it started like in the early 70s right yeah i think he had he i think it was like a year or a couple years before jaws uh wow and oh in the episode uh one of the episodes i just watched they had a character who was a boy genius named steven spelberg and i'm sure i'm sure that that was like a tip of the cap to him or you know trying to make fun of him because he was this you know young boy genius oh yeah so uh in your face loser we named this young boy genius. In your face, loser, we named our young boy genius character after you. Good luck with this

shark movie, whatever. What's something you think is overrated? Overrated? Alright. This is a little tough for me, but I recently through some miracle of financing purchased a cabin. And I had a home inspection done

and I thought, okay, great. That's going to cover me for everything. And it turned out there were several things that he missed. And so I'm going to say home inspectors are overrated or at least the one that I was assigned. Was it assigned by somebody who had a vested interest in the sale going through? Okay, maybe I fell for it um i've never i've never gone through the home buying process before uh and this was someone that

was that was uh recommended by our by our real estate agent who allegedly is there to advocate for us but at the same time she also wants the sale to go through yeah she does yeah so anyone who's out there looking at a home maybe get your own home inspector and uh yeah just like uh for instance our the very first day after we closed um the refrigerator uh i noticed was not working uh and i looked in the home inspection report and the inspector noted there is a refrigerator that was the that was the extent of his inspection like he hadn't bothered to like open the open it and touch a can or anything in there. This place is great. Look at that. You got a refrigerator. You got a chair right

over there. You got outlets to plug stuff in? Okay. He did allegedly test all the outlets. At least we know that's not the problem with the refrigerator. There's a small deck that's off the back. And then when we wanted to get it tightened up and fixed up,

and so the deck guy came and said, oh, they built that on top of the old balcony. And then look at that. You can see the old balcony joist. And then they just wedged the supports in under that, which, again, would have been nice to know from an inspector before we purchased the home. Looks like this part is made out of crackers. Yeah.

No, you know, here it tastes peanut butter. I mean, to be fair, the cabin was built like in the 1960s. There's, there's definitely a lot of,

you know, there's definitely a lot of love in there, but there also is a lot of, there's a lot of, well, that'll, that'll work for now. It's got a lot of,

it's got a lot of Southern influences, let's say in terms of how some of the repairs were done. A lot of love, not a lot of like overthinking of anything yeah like i love the idea of that you had to get the deck tightened up because yes i don't i never like a loosely assembled deck he did he did point out the railing needs to be tightened great that's fair enough i'm willing to tighten the railing. And again, disclosed. That's all I asked for.

And again, this is a total privilege thing. You know, not everybody can get a house. I've never been in this position, but at the same time, yeah, it would be nice to know literally what you're buying. So I don't know.

I don't know at what point the real estate agent and the inspector and everyone else got, got together to have a good laugh at our expense, but I hope they enjoyed their, I hope they enjoyed their drinks i mean there i don't think you have zero recourse if you do feel that like you were like you know at least got a terrible uh home inspection i'm sure at some point you can like at least complain so like yeah something i just i mean we can't i mean i can definitely let the let the real estate agent know hey i think this guy missed some stuff in case yeah're going to recommend him to somebody else.

She's like, wait, who's this? I don't know. Sorry. This is like a new phone. I don't know. I'm counting on my knee right now. Gotta go. Yeah.

Who dis? You can at least... New deck. Yeah. You can at least put a dead rat on his windshield. Yeah. The home inspector. Speaking of which, the chimney guy,

I'll give this guy credit. The chimney guy found a dead bat in the fireplace. Got to. Which was not great, but better found a dead bat in the uh fireplace got to uh which was not great but uh better than a live bat yeah yeah yeah trying to look on the bright side so inhospitable to bats exactly let that be a warning let that be a warning bats bats cease to exist when entering this fireplace my aunt and uncle just sold their house and uh my uncle was telling me this thing he learned during the process that real estate agents compared to the people they represent are just people who aren't real estate agents their homes stay on the market for like six months longer

on average than everyone else right like because they know that like a buyer will come along they're not in a panic but when they're representing you right you gotta bounce on this one you gotta jump on this i don't know if anything else is coming through yeah um so and presumably the home inspectors who they know are just gonna give it a nice little once over right and the ones who are gonna like go in and like really inspect their shit and then you know that probably you gotta touch the cans i mean guys come on yeah you gotta touch the cans that's right then because part of me is thinking like if a real estate aid like they want to get the price down for you so their inspector should be going in and like no this is fucked up this fucked up enough tighten that up no i mean they don't want to get the price down for you price up but i mean at least up i this is i don't know i guess

this is me being like when are they advocating for the customer i know well that's why we should have hired our own independent they tell you about the property that's why they're advocating and to be fair we did we did sign something with both with the inspector and the real estate agent saying that you know so i'm sure you know as far as recourse or whatever you know i'm sure it's all it's all airtight legally and all that and then of course you know, as far as recourse or whatever, you know, I'm sure it's all airtight legally and all that. And then, of course, who wants to go to court or get a lawyer or any of that kind of stuff? I might remind you to look at paragraph four. It just says,

Nana, Nana, Nana. Yeah, exactly. No take backs. It's just a chump clause. The two of you with your legs kicked up smoking cigars? Yeah. That's so weird. Sharing a bathroom.

I'm going to try to fix the refrigerator myself. I have qualified myself by watching a YouTube video and ordering a repair kit. And then I will call a professional. Yeah, yeah. Okay, let's get a new one. The things that I can fix in a household include toilet. And that's it. Yeah. That's about it. Let's get a new one. The things that I can fix in a household include toilet. Mm-hmm. And that's it.

Yeah. That's about it. I think maybe like a drain pipe. I think I can usually figure out what's going on with one of those. But the refrigerator gets pretty complicated. This one, again, I watched two different YouTube videos about it. They each had the same solution to the problem of the refrigerator for this model. And neither of them involves opening up the back.

So I think that part, I think the fact that I can just do it all from the internal or from just moving stuff out of the front, I'm willing to try that. I'm also willing to abandon the project after 10 minutes. I learned, I've looked at all kinds of YouTube videos

to do electrical kind of stuff. I learned the most just from having like my best friend's dad who's an electrician yeah who like just came by to be like okay let me just show you the basics so you do not fucking hurt yourself right and then he's like and this is a couple things you need now i'm out here i'll put in a fucking gfci outlet if we need to fucking switch it up you need dimmer put in i'll put in a light fixture i don't i'm one with the electricity damn damn sir you're looking to come up to a cabin and uh do a little electrical work for the yeah you know i might electrical work scares the shit out of me i could just see myself dead next to a chair underneath like a light socket do you know do the most you know the most uh responsible thing was just turn the power off you know like at the

breaker you know what i mean i did actually i did actually fix our stove yesterday and and the only reason i did that is because the first instruction was unplug it i was like okay yes no risk the worst that's gonna happen if i'm going to make the stove worse i'm not going to make myself worse right so far so far so good what's uh what's something you think is underrated uh well uh on my show go factor self which i'm sure we'll have an opportunity to promote soon enough, we are scheduled to have Ed Begley Jr. on the show. In fact, we were scheduled to have him this past Sunday, but we canceled it.

We postponed because of the alleged hurricane. And I, in researching our guest, which I do, I believe that Ed Begley Jr. is criminally underrated as an actor and as a person. He's been in like 350 film and TV projects. He was completely right about the climate

and about electric cars and about all the stuff he does with healthy food and all that. And he was the butt of jokes for so many years because he was trying to save the planet. And now we're all just trying to catch up to Ed Begley Jr. And then on top of that, he was amazing on Better Call Saul. And everything else he does. He does the comedy, does the drama.

He's got a new memoir coming out. I think Ed Begley Jr. is fantastic. And then you look at some of these films he made back in the 70s. He worked a couple times with Paul Schrader and just all these incredible directors doing all this very varied work. And Ed Begley Jr., I am on board and i'm very excited to host him uh when we reschedule that show damn for sure yeah also stay is working too and stay is working works constantly like it's generous with his time he has good energy you know yeah he does short films he does uh feature you know he'll do big big projects he'll do things to help people out he's been on broadway i mean he's

he's amazing people were clowning him for having a electric vehicle like early on in the game and they're like and he's like just wait you dumb fucks i'm from the future basically yeah and that's and that's very ed bagley way but i think also shout out to him uh he uh he also went to we went to the same high school not at the same time obviously but he's also from the valley or grew up in the valley i know he's from new york originally but he he grew up in the valley too oh no kidding i always yeah he's always at the like studio city farm i was gonna say yeah you definitely can see him in the valley all over yeah yeah yeah all the time and for a while it was sort of a joke because you knew when you were

driving by ed begley's house because it was the one with you know the solar panels and the electric car and yeah yeah and all that and now all the all the houses in that neighborhood look like that. Exactly. There is that Simpsons joke that Super Producer Brian shared that I remember. Powered by my own sense of self-satisfaction. And that's another thing. He did that voice for that joke about himself.

That's so great. He was right. All that, and you're right, and you have a sense of humor about it. Yeah, amazing. Well, that was very cool. He was right. All that. And you're right. And you have a sense of humor about it. Yeah. Amazing. Well, that's very cool. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the news. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,

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to read the actual article okay yes i read some x's about it. Okay. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Um, yeah, I mean, the big thing is that like there, there are big chunks of the U S government that are heavily reliant on him. Right. Like his Starlink satellites make the war effort and Ukraine possible to a large degree. And there was one point where he like,

didn't like the amount of money he was getting and also people are speculating that he was starting to come around to the Russian side of the war and had like had some conversations with Putin and you know Ukrainian

forces were in a battle and the internet turned off right yeah and they were like, hey, what the fuck just happened? And it was, you know, he was holding out. Are you sure that was Elon? Because he seems very well reasoned and on the right side of so many issues.

Looking at his past tweets, he was just basically like, yeah, I think Ukraine needs to chill out and just get back with Russia. That's my take. I don't know. Whatever. Now, is it weird that when I don't know. Whatever. That was weird. That when I first saw that Ronan Farrow wrote about Elon Musk, I was a little disappointed that it wasn't about some sort of a me too kind

of a thing. Yeah. It is a little bit. And it also like for, for as dumb as he looks on the Twitter thing specifically. Yeah. Um, and as dumb as he looks in specific anecdotes throughout this he is making

smart moves in terms of acquiring power absolutely putting himself in a position to be absolutely necessary to the u.s government weird is because you know so much of his uh the messages he's been putting out are about these these sort of micro decisions that he's making you know when when you've got this huge thing it's like you'd think i guess if i guess he doesn't have a publicist he doesn't have anyone consulting him he doesn't have anyone to say no to him but you'd think they'd be like elon let people know that like you control the internet over an entire country like that's such a more important thing than i'm deciding that we're going to get rid of the block button on you know on this app that that millions of fewer people use nowadays well i think yeah i

think that yeah the starlink think the starlink thing may just sort of lead to a greater conversation of like wait how much power does this dude have like no no but dod is like kissing the ring you're definitely like stark industry's territory now oh yeah i mean if you literally you literally can affect the outcome of a war. And of course, you know, it's never great when billionaires cozy up to dictators. No, no, no, no. And Putin is like, people think maybe the actual richest person in the world. So, I mean, they would have aligned priorities from that respect because Putin just surrounds himself with cello players who are worth $3 billion for some reason. It's like, huh? Um, it's interesting. It's kind of a symbiotic

relationship. You look at how much that, you know, when it was even before Elon, you know, what Twitter did for Russia in terms of, you know, getting their propaganda out there. Um, you know, a lot of, I don't know how monetizable that's been for Elon, uh, you know, taking so much of the value out but it is an interesting you know relationship of you know what what's in it for for each of them like what's in it for elon if they're you know unless there's some secret dealing that we don't know about yeah because you know which way is the money flowing yeah so nasa is completely relying on spacex to supply the international space station and again in this case the second

he has the power that people are relying on him he tests the limits. There's a launch that the FAA is like the weather you truly can't

launch this. You're not going to be able to land it. He goes through with it anyways and is basically like, Em, what are you going to do about that? Are you going to fuck with me? Are you going to find me? Do you have any idea how rich I am?

I'd rather ask for forgiveness than permission and then he doesn't ask for forgiveness. Yeah, and then he'll just make a threat and he's like, well, those motherfuckers can die up in the space station you know we don't have to go up there and they're like oh hey fuck fuck fine but privatization is is so great i mean this is just one of you know it's so wild yeah there there's like these moments where the like head of the faa is like calling him after he like did this reckless launch to be like hey we're gonna ground you for like a couple like literally ground your rockets for a couple months um but he opens

the call just being like you've done so much for the space right right for the world of space we're like so grateful thank you so much elon like he just can't like walk three steps without somebody kissing his ass. Right. Yeah. So same pattern with Tesla, like their self-driving tech was rolling through stoplights and the authorities were like,

you can't program self-driving tech that intentionally breaks the law. Like, you know that, right? And Tesla was basically like, can too like you know that right uh and tesla was basically like can too you know because the entire infrastructure of like electronic vehicle charging is reliant on tesla charger like the the biden administration like made a change and was like no it seems like they've got it what are they gonna do like fine him a Right, again, fines don't matter to somebody who's this rich, so we've got ourselves in a fine kettle of fish.

And, yeah, basically, Tesla backed down at the last second, but he will use his power as recklessly and aggressively as he wants, seems to be the implication. Yeah. Yeah. progressively uh as he wants is seems to be the who can stop implication yeah um that's i mean it's like every group you've named is basically like in an abusive relationship with them right yeah that's it that really feels like what it is the pentagon nasa and the u.s government writ large yeah it's i know like girl you got you got to respect yourself he's like yeah look look uh dod you got to make sure your next move is your best move you know what i mean you should get with me but i think when you like i know that on one hand we're talking about like i yes he definitely has this

tremendous amount of power that he's concentrated over the years and like and now part of it is sort of like that like with trump is like is it that he is so genius or is that his instincts are just aligned with this kind of predatory behavior of like totally finding those spots and knowing oh okay they're in bed with me now oh shit if i get if i control all this shit then i know they can't say shit to me and if it's just sort of like his instincts or you know is he like machiavelli like you know really rubbing his mitts i think it's probably just because he's a billionaire it's just his his brain is just set to this kind of of like power consolidation i can't i continue to think he's like a genius of power consolidation and power acquisition and being a predator like that that's how you become a billionaire in the first place is just being a super predator of like economic, finding economic situations that

benefit you and then just demolishing people over and over and over and over again until you have all their money. Yeah. It's sort of the dark side of chutzpah. Like, you know what I mean? It's like nobody, nobody would have the gall to, to try to consolidate so much or try to do so much or try to ignore so many rules. And then, you know, that, that's what I sort of see in common with, with Trump is,

you know, is of course you're not going to be held accountable. You're just going to keep going. Right. Yeah. And where does that momentum lead? For sure. We're talking about the narcissistic personality disorder,

like at a pathological level seems to be the hack for our current system. Yeah. Like it's like the thing that allows you to be yeah yeah and both so thin-skinned you know so concerned about people liking them and praising them and you know can't handle any any kind of a criticism or you know all the stuff that that elon's doing on x will right which helps because that like that there is a moment in the article where they talked to somebody who's like works closely with him. And they were like, he wakes up answering emails, goes to bed, answering emails, never sleeps, is like lives probably the most miserable life that I've ever witnessed in my life. Like he's just.

But but I think that is what drives him is being that thin-skinned and just being a petulant baby and like not being willing to admit that when he is wrong you know that's the big thing yeah and then just using every advantage that he has to acquire power and then use that power to punish the people who said he was wrong in the first place. But that kitchen sink bit, that was hilarious, you guys. Come on. Oh my God.

So did you write that for him? I figure a very funny comedian must have written that. You know, there's a thing called the NDA that cannot break. Yeah. All right. It's debate night, folks. I can't remember a primary debate.

I feel like I've been uninterested in primary debates before, but this one, this one really, I don't know, man. I guess maybe people are expecting that they're going to come for DeSantis and we'll get to, you know, there are the promises that something has gone wrong inside of him and we might get to see it come out. Right. Erupt forth. Yeah.

I would love to see an, an unrehearsed moment with DeSantis. You know, I'd love to see someone trigger that response. Yeah. Yeah. He is on the back foot completely going into this debate, like,

especially with like those debate memo, that debate like plan leaking and people are like okay so i didn't hear about that what is that basically there was some shit that said like defend trump hammer wamas ramaswami vivek ramaswami uh then there was like another thing that was like so painful it was like evoke family connection with anecdote and like it was just like it was just these like you know but everyone's gonna have your debate prep is gonna have things like that like who you should go after

it shouldn't say approximate human emotion no no no it definitely was yeah like hold on let me pull it up because the way it's written debate prep defend trump is so funny because trump is just shitting on him nonstop and yeah his one note for how to deal with Trump is defend Trump at all cost.

Yeah, I am curious to see because I really have. Obviously, I don't agree with him on most issues, but I have really admired how Chris Christie has been kind of prosecuting the case and how he's been articulating. Like, you know, you can disagree with him, but I feel like he has been intelligently and clearly saying all these truths about Trump, but also what he wants to do with the country. And you can disagree about his policies or whatever. And I am curious if there's any chance any of that kind of message can get through, especially since he'll be the only one, aside maybe from Asa Hutchinson, I think is also kind of anti-Trump. Yeah. If any of that message gets through to the people watching this on fox news it's just hard because like you know he tried

to do that in 2016 and then he completely completely folded yeah and he was like yeah i love trump basically so i don't know the problem is so he looks you know he's like a weeble wobble in terms of like what he is able to sort of stand on but that is true like he is intelligent enough to be like well he looks the most non-trumpian candidate if you're looking at it from that perspective so in this um in this fucking memo it said here are the four basic must-dos of your overarching goals of the debate one attack joe biden in the media three to five times it's like a recipe uh you know state grd's positive vision two to three times uh then it says hammer vivek ramaswamy in a response

for defend donald trump in absentia in response to a chris christie attack so he's that's like kind of you know he's that so anyway is that him trying to run for vice president is that him trying to get on the ticket with him i feel like this whole debate is people basically auditioning to be part of the administration on some level so like now we're like okay who's going to be on stage like you said chris christie ron desantis nikki haley vivek ramaswamy who had like some really cool 9-11 things to say this week uh mike pence asa hutchinson doug bergrim and tim scott doug bergrim is the governor i I believe, of North Dakota, who only got in because he had this gift card scheme

in order to get as many donors. Right, right, right. He basically hacked his way onto that debate stage. So we will see where that ends up going. Bergram, yeah. Bergram, yeah. Yeah, I've never heard that name before. Yeah, because he basically,

he just basically found a way to just sneak in at the last minute. And again, this is kind of where a candidate like that or people who have nothing going on, maybe they can find a moment to like shine or whatever. But I have a feeling based on like that leaked memo with

DeSantis, he's going in it. I'm like, they're just going to call me out on the memo probably the whole time I say anything. But I think he's probably going to be like the wimpy kid that the other candidates are just going to beat up on for points during the debate. So that might be kind of cool. And then he starts screaming about Guantanamo Bay. But yeah, not entirely sure who's going to stand out here, because really, it just feels like at this point, all eyes are on Trump. And he said, well, I'm going to stand out here, because really, it just feels like at this point, all eyes are on Trump. And he said, well, I'm going to hang out with Tucker Carlson and I'm doing something with Tucker Carlson that night.

So then I'm reporting to court the next day. Yeah. Then I got court. Then I guess I had to turn myself in where I got to get arrested. Yeah. Where these Soros funded courts are putting a $200,000 bond and making putting conditions on it like I can't make any threats to anyone having anything to do with the case or else I will have my bond revoked. And who knows what will happen then? But he put on truth social this one right after we found out, like, because the bond hearing was sort of like you say fucking anything.

Yeah. Like sideways to anybody involved with this and it's going to get revoked now i don't sure i'll believe it when i see it uh because it just feels like this whole time this trump is like just sort of like elon musk he's like yeah okay i like to see you try it watch this um but he this is what he put uh put out on truth social right after that hearing quote the failed district attorney of Fulton County, Atlanta, in parenthetical, Fonny Willis, insisted on a $200,000 bond from me. I assume, therefore, that she thought I was a, quote, flight risk. I'd fly far away, maybe to Russia, Russia, Russia, share a gold-domed suite with Vladimir, never to be seen or heard from again. Would I be able to take my very, quote,

never to be seen or heard from again. Would I be able to take my very quote, understated airplane with the gold Trump affixed to all to see? Probably not. I'd be much better offline commercial. I'm sure nobody would recognize me. What is he getting at there with the last? Like,

it just feels like, I don't know. I think he's trying to say maybe like, how can I, how can I be a flight away? Yeah. How can I be a flight risk How could I be a flight risk My plane has Trump affected it Or you know There's like a private plane

And I just abscond Fly far away, maybe to Russia, Russia, Russia Share a gold domed suite with Vladimir A gold domed, that is so specific That I really would love to know more I mean most of his accusations are confessions And this seems to be one also like we're gonna find out later like oh he they pass money to each other in a gold dome suite right the gold dome suite is where the uh wonderful compromise story occurred

maybe something like that but yeah i maybe so i don't know maybe he'll go to russia and be a common steven seagal or something but yeah is there a future where he just runs to russia and be a common steven seagal or something but yeah is there a future where he just runs to russia like loses the election runs to russia is the new steven seagal and we just like get video dispatches from him i wouldn't be shocked if that happened because his whole thing is like avoiding accountability so like if i were him you're probably always have an eye on that option to be like, I could always just fuck off to Russia and there's no way they can get me there. So maybe there's that is probably true. But I don't know. I mean, I think his ego probably wants to see what happens.

But I have no clue. I mean, we'll see how these trials go. But that's that's the thing, Jack. We just don't know. We just don't know. The laws will be equally applied to everybody so we've seen desantis like kind of be a counter puncher with the media in some cases like there were a couple things on covet i remember where he people were like he owns this reporter

um but it seems like not since the campaign has started, has he had any sort of response to any sort of adversity or criticism that hasn't like felt like it's bordering on unhinged. Yeah. Am I missing anything? Has there ever, has he been able to like, I think he just fires his staff member every time he gets a hard question. Yeah.

Or his like, or his boots get bigger. time he gets a hard question yeah or his like or his boots get bigger there's like you said one recent pic of him with his cowboy boots on under his suit and like he always wears this outfit but like the way the boots are like too big for the pant leg i'm like this is just bad styling but whatever you you got to get that lift ron i get it you want to go vertical on him and of course we wouldn't care if he were a decent person and had decent policies and you know treated people in a decent manner but but the fact that he doesn't just just just adds one other thing to point to he's like i hate everything so because of that i know hate will be directed at me and i can only defend myself

with these boots yes damn it so yeah i mean i think you know honestly like when he was you know quote unquote pwning the media back then that was through the lens of just him being this you know like rogue governor yeah and now like as it shifts into well how's that compared to these other people how's that compared to trump is now he's running for president then the attacks get a little bit different and even he can't keep like the energy the same way he's getting called out for his bullying now and he doesn't really have a good response for it because that's sort of what it is you know because he can't he can't just say like yeah i'm an asshole that's that's what i do that's that's that's what i do because i'm an asshole right yeah or now he's like telling bob eiger he's like why don't we just knock it off and drop the lawsuit man because like i won like i

don't care anymore so it's like okay no. As usual, a lot of times with trolls, they don't think it out to their logical conclusion. It's like, well, what happens if the other person actually responds? What happens if you stand up to a bully? It's like, then what do you do? It's a lot easier to say, we're going to ban this and we're going to sue this. And then when it actually happens,

it's like it's standing up to a bully. It's the car catching up to the dog. They don't know what to do with themselves. Yeah. Totally. Um, well,

it'll be interesting. I guess Chris Christie's our greatest hope because like, I don't think Mike Pence is going to like have much smoke for him. Right. Um, we'll see if knowing him, he's going to go up incrementally when he's like, I felt like I was in danger on

January 6th. And you're like, okay, dude. They tried to... They were going to... Whatever. Yeah. Whatever, man. He's got a little speech. He's got a little speech ready about, you know, I was asked to do something and the Constitution doesn't allow me to do it, and so I didn't do it. And that has not made a difference

in any of the polling. Yeah, I know. It's funny, too, because so many of these, like, the constitution in any of the polling yeah i know it's funny too because so many of these like the way they talk to the voters it's like they're talking to like republican voters that don't exist anymore yeah you know what i mean like like like desantis evokes the military and stuff like that but like but you guys have completely jettisoned your like that connection or your respect for the military with trump like where you know whether it was people like colonel vinman or gold star families they were like fuck these hater ass military people like fuck a veteran to the point that that became normal so it's just like odd where like all of these people just seem like the same version of like trying to be like a 90s republican like early aughts

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good run oh like there there hasn't been a death like a crash a fatal crash in since i think 2009 and they have these policies in place that are called like the Swiss cheese plan, where it's like there may be a hole at this level, but it's like on top of this other layer of checks that might have a hole at a different layer. But like ultimately you get down to the bottom and like all holes are patched up. They're just like checks on checks on checks on checks. checks on checks on checks. But this New York Times report is saying that both internal like FAA data and also like NASA has an external like they keep track of near misses and like they've really shot up in the past couple months even. And people within the industry are like, I mean, this is not going to be anything new

for anyone to hear. within the industry are like, I mean, this is not going to be anything new for, for anyone to hear, but, uh, the staffing shortage, this is a direct quote. Staffing shortage is beyond unsustainable. It has now moved into a phase of just plain dangerous.

One air traffic controller wrote to the FAA last year, uh, in a confidential safety report. But then you have Matthew Lehner, an FAA spokesman who said the agency's multi-layered approach to safety has quote virtually eliminated the risk of fatalities aboard u.s commercial airlines virtually doing a lot of heavy lifting in that sense virtually um and by that he means we've mostly started focusing on the metaverse yeah and virtual yeah um why go anywhere we are in the metaverse you

can go on vacation yeah yeah but i don't know like it seems like it's the same the thing that we see happening to all industries whether it be like you know hospitals or whatever it's like you know companies come in they uh cut cut cut you know people make less money there is less staff it is pleasing to wall street it is unsustainable for the people who actually work for these companies and like because the incentive system is set up for these companies to be just like look good line go up on wall street we have a lot of things falling apart in this country and like this just like i this i don't want to go i don't want to go out like this because like some fucking asshole executive was you know not even from the airline

industry but like from some private equity company that owns a stake in the airline industry was like, what if we had half of the staff? Wouldn't that make my yacht slightly bigger? Just saying. Yeah. I mean, I could land, well, if we do that, I could definitely land a helicopter on it now, which is what I'm trying to do. So you're on board. Yeah. Unfortunately, it's a lot of, like so you're unfortunately it's a lot of it like you were saying it's a lot of how we deal with uh issues of maintenance and and ongoing you know bigger macro issues i think maybe i i wonder if it's just sort of in general to human level but certainly in the u.s you know you look at you know we don't we don't work at fixing our bridges until

they collapse you know you know right you know work you know i mean there there is the corporate raider element of it where you know you're responsible more for your stockholders and your customers. Um, and then when that involves safety, that's obviously a terrible, but, um, yeah. And then there's also a little bit of the hubris also that like, oh, we fixed that. And, you know, I don't know, but I recently bought a cabin, had an inspection and they also missed a lot of things. So I can very much relate to this.

Uh, yeah, it's, it's, it's trying to do so much more with less and relying not on the people on the ground, literally, but on the people who are looking at the numbers. You know, and you look at, like, to me, my favorite government agency, and I'm sure we all have

one, is the National Transportation Safety Board, because they just come in, they investigate the stuff, they seem, you know, they have historically been well-funded, and then, you know, without fear or favor, they issue the report, and usually the FAA does exactly whatever they say, and then lately, they haven't

as much. They think they're being too cautious. Well, they've got two bosses. They've got them, and then they've got Elon Musk. Yeah, there you go. It all comes back to Elon. So, I mean, I still feel safe flying. It still is the safest form of transportation. But yeah, this definitely is alarming.

And the fact that there's no humility, you know, at least in their initial statements, they're not saying, you know, why they feel they have these risks done. They're not supporting it with, you know, with evidence. It's just saying, you know, hey, trust us, we got this. And then what's the accountability when they don't? Someone gets fired, that's it.

I mean, yeah, pop quiz, assholes, for all the people making money off the airlines, what do you think's going to happen to the company value when there's some kind of fucking accident? They always bounce back, though. They get bailed out by the government. Or it's like that movie. Did y'all watch Hijack on Apple TV,

that Idris Elba thing? No. Because, like, a similar plot to, like, bankrupt an airline with, like, a crash and all this other stuff, and, like, dumping the stock. Anyway. It's most noteworthy for me

for, like, basically not existing. Being, like, an Idris Elba series that... It's like, if that was a movie, that would be a big deal. I would watch it. Like, I watched Beast, or whatever the Lion movie was. Right. series that it's like if that was a movie that would be a big deal i would watch it like i watched beast or whatever the lion movie was right but like yeah i just like i can't believe how little that series exists did you watch it is it good i watched it because when my mom was

babysitting like she watched a couple episodes so it like it when i turn on my tv it's like want to continue i'm like i never started this shit and then so i started watching the pilot and then her majesty got completely sucked away she's like we gotta watch the next one we gotta watch yeah yeah we gotta watch the next one i love it i love airline disaster movies i believe i have an apple tv account through a friend and i have not heard of this until you just mentioned yeah no no same same that's the thing with no one know half the shows on apple tv i'm like prime like really truly these shows might might as well not exist like prime made the most expensive show ever of all time and the only reason people knew about it was because it was the most expensive show ever of

all time like that was that and there were a bunch of stories about that and then nobody really watched it now if they advertise during colombo on peacock thank you yeah i think honestly i think the racist backlash to people seeing black elves may have been more of a pr push than anything amazon did when more people were like damn these fucking people are mad that they're okay whatever fucking lord of the gulf how i keep that shit this also reminds me of there's a chapter in the book, wisdom of crowds that is about the challenger disaster and like how this group of people just got hijacked by this, like a couple people who are incentivized to have the launch go off on time. And,

but like over and over the other thing you see is just they had been hypnotized by their own good luck and good fortune to that point like the there hadn't been a space crash to that point and like they were like we fucking landed on the moon like that shit's crazy 13 happened and we still came out like okay we are golden and so like the exact thing that ended up causing the crash was like on the table at this meeting the day before the launch was supposed to go off. And like a bunch of experts were like, you, you're crazy.

If you're going to let this go for like these, like, Oh, rings are going to cause the fucking thing to explode. I think that's the gambler's fallacy, isn't it? Where the gambler's fallacy where you're like on a, you just expect the string of good luck to continue.

Yeah. And I think the airline industry is kind of going through a similar thing where they're like, we've, it's an amazing run folks. We're really doing it. We're, we're the best and which they are but that doesn't

mean yeah it doesn't mean you can't pay attention to warning signs yeah right which i think again like to the thing we've just been saying with so many industries or like our infrastructure it's like we're all coasting off of that initial investment you know what i mean like like post like post-war investment in our infrastructure power yeah it was fun and then and then it was like fuck it y'all we got this and it's like dude this state school is fucking crumpling into ash like what the fuck is this we were like no that got 75 years ago it's fine we put money down nothing happened and then it does like oh shit oh fuck and i'm sure with the same thing because of like the safety regulations that are in place yeah it's there for a reason but it's not because then you

can coast off of that shit at the end you have to keep maintaining that level of service you know and that's why you have that track on an old cabin yeah that's right well there's your problem but like there there's a part of the story where biden is like they're like the biden administration has been like asking for funding to better staff air traffic controllers. But that is just a... The job of the president is no longer like, you say a thing and it gets

done. Yeah, Reagan could fire him. You gotta be able to give him more money or hire more of him. Yeah, yeah. Instead, it's like this job where you're like, I don't know. My hands are tied, man. Hey, you hands are tied, man. Hey, you gotta talk to Congress. Gotta talk to Congress.

It's not wrong. Gotta talk to billionaires. All right. So anyways, there's something if you're flying anytime soon to make you second guess that. Oh, God. I hope not. I'm going to go ahead and I'm going to have faith for now. But yeah, it is alarming when the workers of a very important industry are saying we are spread too thin at an unsustainable level. It's very easy for critics to say, like, well, of course, they're going to say that because they want to, you know, they want more money or they want less work.

So, you know, which those greedy air traffic control barons exactly yeah and those on all the greedy ground crew fuck yeah but you know what i would rather overpay and push the job of someone whose lives are you know who people are depending on for their lives than so many other uh industries and jobs where that's done it's like yeah you know what give them an extra hour a day. Give them an extra few bucks an hour. Because they're definitely drifting into Stockton Rush, Ocean Gate CEO mentality

of like, it's fine. Everything is so fucking safe, man. Nothing to fear. Yeah, because a homemade submarine hadn't imploded at the bottom of the ocean yet. He was like, so it's probably not going to happen.

We're probably good here, right? Oh, man. Alright. Well, J. Keith Van Straten, such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. So wonderful to be here as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can

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we'll find out if he plays baseball as well. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Well, you might have heard me talk about Columbo, but I also, I just discovered yesterday this wonderful website called Los Angeles Theaters. It's at losangelestheaters.blogspot.com. There's a theater in my neighborhood

that's been sitting vacant for over 10 years, and they're finally doing something with it, and I was kind of curious about the history. And this guy has this site. I spent hours there just learning about like when it opened and all the different things that have happened to it over all the years. As you all probably know, there's incredible historic theaters all over LA that, you know, some of which are now, you know, a bookstore or a gap, and some of which are actual theaters. And this site is such a wonderful, beautiful, loving, deep dive into their history

and all the places they've appeared in films and that kind of stuff. So I really recommend that. Wait, what's that called again? It's called Los Angeles Theaters, theaters with an R-E dot blogspot dot com. Theatras, oh, okay. And he finds original articles about the theater openings and happenings and historical images from all over. I just discovered it yesterday.

I hope it's not a front for some sort of nazi propaganda but so far so good yeah oh wow yeah because i like that i think you're mentioning bookstar on ventura which used to be a theater and that's when i was like yeah that was like my go-to bookstore as a kid and i was always like amazed i'm like wow it's like a just like a ticket box office and stuff, but then you can go in and buy whatever you want. Okay, now I'm definitely going to check this out. Amazing. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying?

I'm getting lost in this list of like, whoa, there's stuff by my house. Okay, wow, yeah. This is great. Okay. You can find me at Miles of Gray, wherever they got at symbols. You can find Jack and I on our basketball podcast, miles and Jack. I'm at,

you know, just previewing the NBA season. I think we'll be talking about the central division and the next episode. Then you can find me on my true crime podcast, the good thief talking about the search for Vasily Spalio Costas, the Greek Robin hood. And also, you know,

if you like trash reality for 20 day fiance with Sophie, Alexandra and I, it's a wonderful thing. Work in media. And also, you know, if you like trash reality, 420 Day Fiance with Sophie Alexandra and I. It's a wonderful thing. Working media, like, hey, actually, yesterday was the 30th anniversary of the premiere of the show that Friends ripped off, a.k.a. Living Single. Because we are living. I can't believe it's the third. I don't even want to, like, think about that. I can't believe it's the third. I don't even want to think about that.

But shout out the whole gang from that show. Because, man, that was a seminal show for me. And, yeah, you can still stream it and learn yourself about something good. There you go. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. score O'Brien. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Alex Patak's Satire Kitchen responded

to the video of the person, the woman who was talking about the challenge of going to see Oppenheimer with her husband who didn't want to see the sex scene and had to put his head on her shoulder. And Alex wrote, when there's a sex scene in a movie

my wife sprays me with a hose so i don't break the tv trying to quote get in there um you know different tactics just go and do your own research go in with your eyes open just get it uh you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien and on threads at jack underscore o'Brien and on threads at Jack underscore O underscore Brian find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist we're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram we have a Facebook fan page and our website

DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy Miles what is a song that you think people might enjoy? I think you're going to like this track from Melanie Charles,

Haitian-American from Brooklyn, singing her track over the instrumental of the Tame Impala track, I'm a Man. I think that's what it's called, Because I'm a Man. Because I'm a man, woman, painter, painter. Because I'm a man, that's what it is.. Because I'm a man. Because I'm a man. That's what it is. Anyway, this is kind of the slow down that Tame Impala instrumental.

And then just sings her own thing over. It's called Petty. So check this out. Petty by Melanie Charles. And I miss Melanie Charles, y'all. Oh, no. Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.

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