The Daily Zeitgeist - Elon = OJ Simpson, We Already Know What You Did Last Summer 04.24.25

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

In episode 1852, Jack and Miles are joined by author of America, Let Me In: A Choose Your Immigration Story, Felipe Torres Medina, to discuss… Democrats Are Starting To Revert Back To Thei...r Bad Habits Of Triangulation, New Studies Illustrate Just How Much People Hate Elon Musk, I Know What You Did Last Summer Gets The Legacy Sequel Treatment and more! Why Dems ‘keep talking about due process’ in the case of man mistakenly deported to El Salvador As Democrats rally around Abrego Garcia case, some worry a due process argument won’t land with voters Musk to reduce Doge role after Tesla profits plunge Tesla profits plummet 71% amid backlash to Musk's role with Trump administration About half of Americans have a negative view on Tesla and Elon Musk, CNBC survey finds Musk and AI among biggest threats to brand reputation, global survey shows I Know What You Did Last Summer Gets The Legacy Sequel Treatment I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER - Official Trailer (HD) 7 Shocking Dick Moves That Prove Hollywood Has No Soul LISTEN: Day One by Free Whenever WATCH: The Daily Zeitgeist on Youtube! L.A. Wildfire Relief: Displaced Black Families GoFund Me Directory See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:20 Hello, the internet and welcome to season 385, episode four of Der Daily Zeitgeist. It's a production of iHeartRadio, this podcast where we take deep dive into American shared consciousness. And it is Thursday, April 24th, 2025. Yep. 424, it's National Neck Care Day. Shout out Wu Tang. Don't just protect your neck, care for your neck. Oh, neck care. Interesting. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Is that what that song was about? No, I don't think they were hawking a product that was helping to tighten the skin cells in your neck for middle-aged people But anyway awareness that just general protect your neck with the neck turns the head. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's important It's also a national thing. I've heard old people say that's what I told I that's from when I used to sell cars. Yeah, when my when I was working at the car dealership That's right a guy who was my mentor told me whenever you're selling a truck to a married couple,
Starting point is 00:04:06 you make sure you talk to that female too. And don't let them check out of the deal because the neck turns the head and the deal will walk out. That's where that saying came from me. Shout out Art at Dave Ellis, Glendale Dodge. Also, National Teach Children to Save Day, National Take Our Kids to Work Day, and Pigs in a Blanket Day.
Starting point is 00:04:26 Oh man, I haven't had a Pigs in a Blanket in a minute. Does that teach children to save? Like money, like financial literacy. Oh, not Lord and Savior of Jesus Christ. Teaching them how to be... Oh, like to go out there and save children. No, no, no, no, not today. Not today, Satan.
Starting point is 00:04:41 Not today, Satan. No. My name is Jack O'Brien, AKA. Watched out of sight. It blew my mind. JLo's butt is insane when she turns around. Watched out of sight. That backyard's fine.
Starting point is 00:04:58 I can't put it into words just how big and round. Let us go. Let us go. Oh, that one courtesy of Christy Yamaguchi Maine out of touch by Hall & Oates for anybody having trouble figuring out what the fuck I was supposed to be singing there mm-hmm yeah man that was a real real throwback real throwback real out of sight wow what a film and also let us go. Thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Starting point is 00:05:30 Hey, it's Miles Gray, aka. And the Dow, Dow, Dow is a burning ring of fire. The line go down, down, down as the tariffs go higher. And it burns, burns burns burns. The Dow's on fire. The Dow is on fire. Even though, but Trump was pump faking. You know, I can get pretty low. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:05:54 But he was pump faking on those fucking tariffs now and it's going, it's all over the place. Oh, I asked you, I said, who did out of sight? I forgot, Soderbergh. Oh, Soderbergh. Soderbergh. Steven Soderbergh. Soderbergh. Yeah. Shout out. Steven Soderbergh. Soderbergh.
Starting point is 00:06:05 Yeah, shout out. Oh, sorry. Let me shout out the creator of that AKA. That was from Nick Sempert-Tyrannus on the Discord server. I said mine was Kristy Yamaguchi, right? Yes, you did. Yes, you did. When I get a Yamaguchi main, I'm quick to the point. Vintage Yamaguchi main, yes.
Starting point is 00:06:22 Vintage. Miles were thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny and Peabody award winning writer for the late show. His new book is America, Let Me In, Choose Your Immigration Story. Please welcome Felipe Torres Medina. Felipe. Yo, what's up?
Starting point is 00:06:41 How are you guys? Welcome, welcome. Great, Felipe. Great having you. Great having an author on Peabody award winner. Mm-hmm Winner nominee nominee nominee nominee miles I didn't mention it because I just that look if the Peabody's are on board Look the fuck are the Emmys doing, you know fuck an Emmy when you got a Peabody Yeah, like someone could say like I got a me like here actually family
Starting point is 00:07:05 I used to say to my wife who has three Emmys, you know I was like, you know words words don't matter and your non important Emmys will be there next to my very important P body Yeah, then she won a body Yeah, oh man, well you kind of rooting against her a little no It's okay. It's okay. Loki, Loki, a little bit. Yeah, you don't have to say it, just use some facial expressions. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Not vigorously. What is your wife write on? My wife writes for John Oliver. Ah, okay. Okay. We know a couple John Oliver writers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:42 What was the process for writing the book compared to writing for late night, I'm assuming Stephen Colbert does not figure into writing the book. Is that, is that correct? I bet that's a big difference. I think that's a, that's a big one. I think the biggest thing is that when you write for TV in general, but when you're at for late night, you're writing for today, right? We were kind of just alluding to this.
Starting point is 00:08:06 It's like, you got to have the jokes ready. You got to do everything. And, you know, you started in the morning and then at five 30, you know, tapings, that's it. When I was writing the book, I felt myself just like writing a joke and being like, okay, where's my validation? Where is someone telling me this is funny? Immediately. And did you think about adding a laugh track to the book?
Starting point is 00:08:30 I had, I had like a sound machine. Yeah. So I wrote a book. I wrote it every 40 seconds. Burst of laughter. Yeah. So that, that was the biggest thing I think just to like, adjust my brain to being like, just write the thing, write the jokes, write the whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:46 And then at some point your editor will see it. And also your editor is not necessarily a comedian, they're editors. Right. So they're like, yeah, no, we, we defer to you on the jokes. And that was a little bit like, oh, right. It has to be funny, but I am the arbiter of funny. They do the notes by hand. Do you have an editor who did that?
Starting point is 00:09:06 No. Okay. I got in one draft of a book that I worked on. They FedExed us the manuscript with jokes written down by hand. Wow, was this in 82? Yeah. No, it was a shockingly recent for that story. But yeah, the publishing industry is just on a different time. They share a timescape with the trees and with the growth and fall of mountains. They're like, we'll get this out in the next decade probably.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Working with people in the publishing industry, I was like, that's where I need to get. They have a good life. They take days off in the summer just because it's the summer. Yeah. It's a good world. Where do you get your inspiration otherwise? Felipe, what got you to writing comedy and now
Starting point is 00:10:02 talking about an immigration story or a book based on that. What was that process like where you're like, I mean, writing comedy and now talking about like an immigration story, like a book based on that, what what was sort of that process like where you're like, I mean, I do I'm funny for a living, but how do I sort of expand on using my talents to sort of talk about something a little bit larger than what I normally talk about? Yeah, well, I'm an immigrant. So it was a little bit of like, you know, you using like truth and comedy and all that stuff, like using your own story
Starting point is 00:10:25 or your own background to make comedy. But the other thing was like, honestly, like I live in New York, I lived in Boston and then New York, that's my time in the States has been there. I've been here in LA just like to visit and stuff, but I was surrounded by a bunch of like liberals slash progressives and they had no idea about their own immigration system.
Starting point is 00:10:50 And these are people who are supposedly like super pro immigration, right? Or like, you know, support immigration or anti anti-immigrant policies. And, you know, I would be like hanging out with my friends freaking out about getting like sponsorship for a visa or whatever. And they'd be like, no, no, no, but you went to school here. Like you're good. You're fine. You're yeah. I didn't even know your English is so good.
Starting point is 00:11:14 I was really, yeah. I was shocked when you said, I didn't even know you were an immigrant. Yeah. As if you're saying, get a zombie. That's probably like, you're hiding a fucking, like you're hiding a zombie bite or something. Fucking no. Oh my God. And it happens like even to this day, like I'm on a green card in my own permanent resident. And people are like, oh, so like, who are you going to vote for?
Starting point is 00:11:34 They would ask me last year and I'm like, bro, I can't. I feel like legally I'm not allowed to. Right. Yeah. But I will. Got a little more familiar with green card status. Yeah. Due to recent news stories. Yeah. But I will got a little more familiar with green card status. Yeah. The recent news stories. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Were you, as you're writing it, were you like, man, I wonder if this is still going to be topical once it comes out? Yeah, a lot. Cause I wrote it in like 23 finished it around early 2024. And there was that feeling of like, is this going to be like completely outdated by the time like it comes, is it going to be an artifact? Right. And it, it isn't it.
Starting point is 00:12:11 No. It's actually like quite irrelevant. And still it's about like legal ways to come to America. So the, the gist of it, and the majority of ways to come here legally are technically on paper still valid Yeah, it's the maybe the mood around immigration is right pretty dark right cranky The CBS for their take on this. America seems cranky today around immigration. That's one way to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yeah. What are the details that you feel like surprise the most of your liberal well-meaning friends about the immigration system? I think it's twofold. One thing is how expensive it is. Everything is so freaking expensive like you're paying for like the fees and stuff But you're also paying for like immigration lawyers if I can afford it because they're gonna make your life easier You know, even before Trump's gold card where yeah Money exchange. Yeah. Well, and there is a Visa that exists right now that is the gold card.
Starting point is 00:13:28 It's just cheaper than the gold card. It's called the EB-5 and that's like, you have to invest $1 million, not five. Right. And it's like, when the gold card news broke out and people were like, oh, can you believe this? People can just buy their way into the country. It's like, yeah. Yeah, man. It's like, yeah, most countries have some version of this.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Just like in the same way, like when Trump won, people were like, you can buy your way into Canada or like a half million dollars if you invest in, you know, start a business there, but. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And then I think the other thing is, you know, how expensive it is, but also how much immigrants are like really America-pilled.
Starting point is 00:14:09 Like immigrants love America. That's why they move here. Right. And so a lot of the times talking to more progressive people or, or more liberal people, you get that like, oh, but this country sucks and it's like, yeah, there's bad stuff, like I know, obviously I did my research, that like, oh, but this country sucks. And it's like, yeah, there's bad stuff. Like I know, obviously I did my research, but like, it's pretty good compared to other places.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Yeah. Oh, you should have seen where I left. It's a little bit like that. Like, yeah, it's like, but the internet's so slow here. You have that. You have internet here. Right, right, right. You have that. You have internet here. Yeah, right, right, right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:47 And there's no firewall or like content blockers. Exactly. What? And I don't think so. I just use a VPN or something. Okay, cool, man. Cool, cool, cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:56 All right. Well, Felipe, we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. Yes. First, we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna talk about how Democrats are responding to the, all the deportation and, uh, you know, kidnappings, I guess is one way of putting it that are happening.
Starting point is 00:15:15 And it feels like that, you know, we saw a Democrat do a good thing and like go down and try to meet on a Brego Garcia's case. But the, like, it feels like they're moving generally as a party in a different direction, in a more familiar triangulation direction for the Democrats. So we'll talk about that. We will check in with just what's, how are things going with Elon Musk? We're seeing a lot of good, we're seeing Good. We're seeing a lot of talk about his exit from the White House and how it's because Tesla is not doing good.
Starting point is 00:15:52 There's this implication that's like, Tesla just needs him so bad. He took his eye off the ball there and their price went down. He just needs to get back to making that line go up. So we want to talk about that. We'll talk about the new, I know what you did last summer, legacy sequel that just dropped. A couple really interesting trends here that I want to look at. Specifically, like, people I think are getting, characters are getting killed now. Instead of like, you know, in previous slasher movies, characters would get killed for having sex.
Starting point is 00:16:28 Like that, that was like the moral universe where like, if you had sex, your character was probably going to get killed. Now they're getting killed for like doing spa stuff, I think, because they're just like, you know, a guided meditation. Yeah. Because like people don't fuck with sex anymore. They're like, uh're like, what else? What else could we punish people for doing for themselves?
Starting point is 00:16:50 I thought we were back in the 80s. You know what I mean? If we're going back to the 80s, bring back all the just gratuitous sex morality shit. I know. Nope. Not in this case. But before we get to any of that, Felipe, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:17:10 Three days ago, I was telling my wife that I didn't... We've been traveling through the country because I'm promoting my book, and I didn't like the soap in the hotel that we were... The body wash that we were staying at. I'm like, I don't like this smell. It reminds me of this dish soap that we used when I was growing up in Colombia. Did you ever have the dish soap that's not like liquid? And she was like, what the hell are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:17:36 Like powder powder? It's not powder. It's like a big tub and a paste inside. And so you use the you use the like a very dry paste very dry I paste yeah like like a scented Campbell imagined, but you just use the thing and I went on a like easily Easily seven minutes Google search where my wife wanted to talk about literally whatever anything else anything else you have to fuck You have to see what this looks like.
Starting point is 00:18:06 And I found like all the packaging of it like clothes and I was like, no, no, but you can't see what the pace looks like. Just give me a second. That is exactly my personality. Like hyper fixated on certain things that matter. Absolutely nothing at all. Yeah. No, I think it's probably because you have such a vivid memory.
Starting point is 00:18:25 You know what I mean? So when it all comes rushing back, you're like, no, I know what I'm talking about. And you also need to understand how this is the exact same thing. I feel like that too. So did you replace the soap? I think it was the day we were leaving the hotel. So I was like, whatever. It's fine. I just didn't like it. It was a nice hotel. I was just like, just didn't like it. It was a nice hotel. It was just like, I didn't like the smell.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Like what is it just that it reminded you of the dish soap or even the dish soap for even a fragrance you were like. I don't like a fake lemon lime flavor or smell. Oh yeah. As a soap? Yeah, I'm like as a soap, but even as like candy or whatever, I'm like, I like lemons, I like like as a soap, but even as like candy or whatever. I'm like, I like lemons.
Starting point is 00:19:05 I like limes as fruit or ingredients. And I'm like, this does not taste anything like that. Why do you say? Yeah. Is it because of that soap? Do you think? Probably. Honestly, some sort of weird memory of like I have to do the dishes now.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Do you, where does, do you consider Sprite something like that? Or that's like its own weird flavor. Sprite is its own thing And I like right. Oh, yeah, right is the least lemon lime I know everything that goes about how lemon lime it is It's just sugar water we just call it Clear one with the sugar It is really good. Yeah. Yeah, there's this like orange dial hand soap, you know, like the orange tinted dial hand soap that like takes me back to a hotel that I don't even know if I've ever
Starting point is 00:19:50 been to like it's like this like very specific sense memory that I feel like it might be like from a dream, but it like really is like the smell of soap is like so transporting and specific in so many cases that yeah, like I can like picture everything in the hotel room based on the orange dial hand soap. I recently bought like a hand soap that it's kind of coconutty. And I immediately thought of my grandmother's house because she used to have like a coconutty hand soap and And I hated it as a kid. Like I was like, this is so weird.
Starting point is 00:20:28 But then like using this one, I was like, I don't know why fuck with this. And I recently put it together. I'm like, Oh my God, this is from my grandma's house. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like using this as like a transportive, transportative method to get back to those memories, but yeah. Shout out cents.
Starting point is 00:20:43 Shout out sent memories. Shout out sent memory. What is something you think is underrated? Felipe. Uh, I was thinking a lot about this one. I'm going to make both of my underrated, my overrated things about sports. I think because I have to say it here in this country.
Starting point is 00:20:58 Soccer soccer is incredibly underrated. It's underrated. Yeah, it's like my favorite sport. It's incredible. It's insane. Absurd. The. It's like my favorite sport. It's incredible. It's insane. Absurd. The level of athleticism that you have to have to play it. And like people run like those players run like six miles, 12 miles every three days.
Starting point is 00:21:18 I'm like, yeah, it's not about the goals. Also, like there's really cool goals. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So soccer is a big thing that I think is underrated here. Who's your, who's your team? I mean, probably obviously the Columbia national team. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Columbia national team, which as they say in the book, like Columbia is a great nation where, whose people will never let you down unless they play for the men's national team, which they will always let you down. Uh huh. Shout out David Ospina. You know what I mean? You should play for Arsenal. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Which they will always let you down. Oh, shout out David Aspina. You know, I mean, yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and it was being they actually played for my favorite club, which is
Starting point is 00:21:50 Arsenal in London Miles hell, yeah I'm right there, bro. I said I'll spin. I said let me vibe check real quick. Yeah You guys are riding high right now. Right? Yeah. Real Madrid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:08 Yeah. Fucking beautiful. That was, Oh my God. I love throwing in the haters. There's so many Real Madrid fans were like, just wait, bro. Have you heard of Remontada? Have you heard of Remontada? We're going to, we're going to win back at now.
Starting point is 00:22:18 Yeah. Oh fuck. Nah. Y'all are trash. Anyway, it was incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:23 Have you guys thought about like adding dunks to the game? I just feel like maybe like if you could like dunk, it was incredible. Yeah. Yeah. Have you guys thought about adding dunks to the game? I just feel like maybe like if you could like dunk, it would be cool. Bro, there's shots from outside the box are like dunking bro. Okay. Those are three pointers. They would be like a goal. If a goal comes from outside the box, it should count for two. Kind of like a three pointer.
Starting point is 00:22:44 Yeah. Dude, there's so many like, let's change this sport. That sounds so beautiful that you love so much. Let's change it for the American audience. Maybe maybe rock and jockey a little bit. Maybe 10 pointers from random spots. If you watch the South American leagues, they take fucking rips from outside the box. If it would be those scores would be wacky
Starting point is 00:23:04 for the amount of like outside of the box goals I've seen in South American league. It'd be cool. Yeah. Uh, what's something you think's overrated? And here's my, here's the thing that will probably get me excommunicated from the United States college sports. Don't get it has never been my thing.
Starting point is 00:23:19 Got it. Like I didn't go to college here, but I'm like, these are just like 22 year olds relate for chem, you know, right. Right. Why is everyone so like riled up about, you know, don't you all have jobs? You're no longer in college. This is this is my theory about it, Felipe, because the reason I really love football, let's call it football, because that's what's that's what it's called, is the sort of tribalism around the
Starting point is 00:23:47 supporter culture, like everybody has a club, everybody is devoted to their respective club or national team, they will they will dress up, they will get together on match days to experience it all. And I think college football is the closest thing in America that we have, that's localized enough that even if you live in Nebraska where you have no professional sports team, you have a college team that allows you to be like, we are Nebraska. This is our team. We fuck with them. These are enemies. So I think that's the one parallel I see. But the difference being is they don't have the fun chance and song. Like, yeah, cancer is just soccer. Amazing. But, but I get that actually, like, this is the first time someone's like presented
Starting point is 00:24:28 that, like that way of looking at it. Like, I understand that a little bit more. It's, it really is just like, one of those things where it's like, it's so weird to me sometimes I'll see like a grown man with like a, like a KU like jacket. And I'm like, what you, sir, you, you have daughters and sons, I presume. Didn't cry at either of their births, but did cry the last time that team lost. Oh man. When Rafe LaFrance was there, man.
Starting point is 00:25:01 Rafe LaFrance. What a pull. Yeah. And it is getting, sorry, Jacques Vughn, you know, the list goes on. Damn. Why were they so French? Joel and B? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:12 I mean, I'm going to get Kansas. We were not familiar with your game. It's, it's now basically becoming more of more like corporations where you are hiring people out. Like the way that the system is set up. Like at first it was you, they were all, the athletes were only paid with their education, which was not good because this amorphous entity, the NCAA is making all the money and just like not sharing any of it with athletes.
Starting point is 00:25:42 But they then switched it and now it's just this weird thing where like people change teams constantly. Like it, it almost feels like when somebody's like, Oh, you want to do it your way. Fine. And they like make it bad on purpose, you know, like they've just like not put any rules in to make it so that any team keeps players that like are there. It's just everybody has to switch constantly. But anyways, it is I get what you're saying. Like from an outside perspective, I feel like it would be like,
Starting point is 00:26:14 what the fuck is anybody talking about? But they're totally. Yeah. It's totally like I didn't grow up with this. It's like when you go to your like like a friend's house and everyone's like, oh, for dinner, we're going to have my favorite, like tuna pasta or whatever. And it's like you're like, what is happening? Everyone I like to do it.
Starting point is 00:26:37 But it's like everyone in the home is like, this is amazing. And you do the casserole night. You know, like, oh, don't forget to do to dance to the tuna casserole dance. Dad. It's like embarrassed for everyone. I actually don't feel that good. Could I, I might have to call my parents, pick me up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:59 The chicken tastes like wood. Hey, miles, have you ever gone over a friend's house? He just ain't no good. No good. So you reach for a bottle of K-Yo Pectin. That verse is mind blowing to me. What fun. What an unexplored direction that rap could have taken where if they had gone with that verse as the one that worked from Rapper's Delight.
Starting point is 00:27:25 Can you imagine if rappers, rather than starting off, I said a hip hop, a hip and they just started with, have you ever gone to- No, no one has to eat and the food just ain't no good. What? The macaroni suck. Rap is just poor food commentary like failed stand-up comedy
Starting point is 00:27:46 is like the direction that all rap goes. Have you ever noticed that airplane food is not as good as food in the land? What's the deal with how small these peanut packages are? All right, Felipe, wonderful getting to know you. We're going to take a quick break. We're going to come back and we're going to talk about some news. We'll be right back. Come back and we're going to talk about some news. We'll be right back
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Starting point is 00:31:20 stories from the frontiers of marketing on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back and Democrats, it's always fun to just check in with them. See always check in. How are they doing? They are they the opposition? Are they following up on their promise?
Starting point is 00:31:46 We will win the famous promise that galvanized a nation. Yes. We've all not been able to get out of our. You know what? It's so funny. I feel like once they did that, all like America was like, damn y'all, we're just have to do this on our own. Holy shit.
Starting point is 00:32:04 Okay. So I'm going to have to do this on our own. For real. Holy shit. Okay, so I'm going to get out in the street. But yeah, obviously, the number of crises that we're in the midst of are too numerous to track on a daily basis. But one story that keeps going in and out for very good reason is the return of Kilmar Abrego Garcia, who is the Salvadoran man that was errantly sent to El Salvador under the bogus accusation of being in a gang because he wears a Chicago Bulls hat and has tattoos. In which case, Justin, the editor, you may be getting a visit too as a Chicagoan with tattoos. I mean, me, when I was nine years old, like I would have been
Starting point is 00:32:37 fucking rocking the Bulls hat. Yeah. It's flimsy. It's flimsy. It's flimsy. Bulls hat and those little tattoos that you got like the stick on the press on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I used to write things on my hand, which is what the Trump administration did to him was they just like letters on his hand. What is this? S. What is this? The S from MS 13 is like, no, it's that S that everybody drew with the six lines first and then you like this. I saw banging in Little Rock, man. I was trying to try and do some of those hand signals.
Starting point is 00:33:06 You were stacking by the railroad stack, man. So Senator, Senator Chris man, Holland did the bare minimum and also the right thing and went to El Salvador to demand, to see the man that was residing in his home state of Maryland, um, their meeting finally gave us confirmation that Kilmar was alive and you know, the Supreme Court even decided unanimously that Trump had to bring him back. Yet the administration continues to argue semantics. Woke activist judges.
Starting point is 00:33:35 Yeah, exactly. Woke activist judge Brett Kavanaugh. Who are appointed by George Bush. Anyway, so meanwhile, Democrats are wondering what the fuck to do. Do they call out the inhumane treatment of immigrants and take this moment to show them that they stand with them or do they start wetting their khakis because the polls tell them Republicans perform better with voters on that topic. I'm into piss play, so I'm already just on board with this one. This one sounds good.
Starting point is 00:33:58 It's the khakis, y'all. They're drenching their bench right now. So, they are making this about due process. This is from CNN. Democrats who've urged a different approach say they worry that the party isn't doing enough to broaden the due process argument beyond Abrego Garcia's case, meaning there are many other people.
Starting point is 00:34:18 It's like, let's just not get caught up on this. This is a whole set of tragedies that we need to wrestle with. Others have argued it's a, quote, distraction from more politically salient messages on the economy that shifts the conversation to immigration, where Trump holds an advantage with voters. So for the last week, we've heard a lot about due process, which is immensely important. It's the cornerstone of any democratic nation, but also telling the millions of Americans that have either immigrated here themselves or descend from immigrants like myself, Felipe
Starting point is 00:34:49 also, they don't really like telling people like us they don't give a fuck about them is not a winning message. OK, this is what Democratic strategists are telling the people on the Hill, the politicians quote, but Democrats must walk a fine line in defending defending Abrego Garcia, several strategists warned as the Trump White House has worked to portray Abrego Garcia as a violent member of the MS-13 gang and in a quote, apparent woman beater. They've taunted the lawmakers who have taken
Starting point is 00:35:17 up Abrego Garcia's cause. This is a quote from a strategist, Chuck Rocha, quote, we have to be careful not to get sucked into an argument where Republicans can say we care more about undocumented immigrants than American citizens. So that's why Democrats keep talking about due process. We need to focus on how there needs to be a process to make sure that innocent people and citizens don't get caught up in this. And that's how we need to be talking about this.
Starting point is 00:35:42 Not that the broader context, like I understand the elementary logic of, well, Republicans messaging connects more with voters, but their message is one of dehumanization and nightmarish xenophobia. So the fact that they're just bowing out of any conversation around that because of this perceived truth is at best laziness and at worst malicious indifference.
Starting point is 00:36:04 It reminds me of the people in 2020 who would do say stuff like, oh, I don't really wanna talk about racial stuff. Yeah. Because like I don't really know anything. It's really my thing. And I don't really have, like you don't have a take on white supremacy.
Starting point is 00:36:16 You don't have a take on any of this. You don't have a take on anti-black racism. I just don't. Well, guess what? Our nation is fucking built on people coming to try and better their lives here. So if you are someone who wants to govern, you better find your spine and learn how to talk about this and not just seed, like letting Republicans define any conversation around immigration to be like,
Starting point is 00:36:36 well, they're taking your jobs and that's why your son is hooked on opioids. And then being like, yeah, they summed it up. I don't even want to offer an alternate explanation, like inequality being driven by kleptocracy or whatever. So the old habits are coming back in a way that I'm just a little bit like this is you have the winning message and it's to do something different, but that doesn't seem to be an appetite for that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:59 If the Democrats are able to convincingly like talk about what they stand for, they'd be able to like win this conversation, but because they're like, so scared of being associated with it, because it's like so gamified for them. They just like can't even deal with like the Republicans. Like the Republicans are just like doing the he's no angel thing. And the Democrats are like, shit, we're, we're stumped guys. I don't, I don't know how to deal with that one. Uh, our hands are tied. It's just like, I mean, they're tied because you want them to be. Right. It's funny to me because you're letting them
Starting point is 00:37:37 decide he's no angel. You know, the whole thing is due process, right? That's what the due process would tell you if it is or is not. Right. I mean, you know, they even like the the police department that they said, like, identified him as a gang, they came on. They're like, no, we never did that. Did not. We have no record of this. So keep our names out of your mouth. It is it is just again, like you're saying, Jack, like when a strategist says, oh, well, if they do that, they're just going to think that we care more about undocumented
Starting point is 00:38:11 immigrants than American citizens. So we won't do that. It's like, because is that what you actually believe that means? Right. Yeah. Or do you just not believe anything and therefore you are just not going to try anything? Yeah. And also not to sound paranoid, but like if you, if they take someone and put them in a Salvadorian prison without due process, that means they didn't get to prove if they are or not a citizen. So if the argument is like, oh, they care more about undocumented immigrants than they care about citizens. They could grab a citizen and be like, no, he's not a citizen.
Starting point is 00:38:50 He's an undocumented person. That's what they did. In fact, exactly. Yeah, they did that with that guy. So like the idea of like the argument being they care about more about citizen undocumented, everybody's like care about citizens. Like, no, the whole point is that you have to be able to prove things. Yeah, broadly.
Starting point is 00:39:10 And I think also too, because this was something that I thought was really telling is when the Democratic National Convention happened over the summer, they disappeared any talk about immigration and embracing the multicultural identity of the United States like they did in 2020. Like the platform completely changed where they're like, don't fucking even talk that. Like we even think humanely about the people that make this country what it is. It is like, again, it's a level of cowardice
Starting point is 00:39:39 that also reveals their inflexibility, like rhetorically to even be able to grapple with something like this and just be like, well, they're defining the conversation as illegals, bad, no jobs. And if you are advocating for any kind of any kind of immigration policy that you care more about these people than American people. And that already, I feel like not wanting to have a reckoning with just that very stupid, like cliche that like that, like, political cliche that gets evoked all the time, is just also very scary. It's like, you have to... You can actually move this conversation along more than just,
Starting point is 00:40:14 it ends with, this is how it works, this is what happens when we have people immigrate to this country, end of story, no other way to talk about it, no other way to define it, no other way to connect people with the fact that this is actually a benefit to everybody. Yeah. It's like they're bad at their job of connecting their message to the humane values that people care about. I'm assuming it's because they don't actually care about those, but you know, I don't know what they, but they're bad at connecting to those values that actual people care about.
Starting point is 00:40:46 And so they blame the values because they don't want to blame themselves. Like a lot of these things, the objection that, well, this is like, this is what people are going to say. It's like, well, it sounds like you as the crafters of the messaging around this have some work to do to make it so that they don't believe that. It sounds like you as media professionals and writers have some work to do to make it so that that is not the story that reaches people, but they kind of give up the fight
Starting point is 00:41:19 before they have a chance to be proven bad at their job. Yeah. I think it reveals to what being in office for a very long time does to people and their connection to those values. Because you might go in idealistic, but then you're like, shit, I might have to switch it up over here to support this bill, to support this company or whatever.
Starting point is 00:41:40 After a while, the job becomes different to you and it's like, no, I'm actually just a collection of like loosely held opinions that also appeal to corporate benefactors. Right. I forgot about those values because that's what the job entails. That's why I think there's a minority of people that are actually in office that still have some connection to those real human stakes that exist, and trying to
Starting point is 00:42:05 fight for those and the people who are just career in office people who are just like, I'm going to stay in office and this is what I have to do to stay in office. That's right. Cause it's better than the other guy getting into office. I'll tell you that much. All right. I've seen that guy.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Therefore I'm going to make myself bad. So to avoid that other bad guy, I'm going to be like kind of shitty too. I'll be neutral. But that's what needs to happen. All right. Let's talk about Elon Musk real quick. Cause we're all itching to at all times. We're all eager to talk about him.
Starting point is 00:42:34 It is looking like our short national nightmare of Elon Musk being in charge, like heavily involved in the Trump administration may be coming to an end because he is now promising to significantly step back from his White House role. Miles, you pointed out that this was at a time when like it had something to do with like an earnings call report. Something about Tesla earnings about to have to be discussed and maybe want to soften that. Yeah, that. Net income went down, let me just, 71% this quarter. That's so much, Miles. It's going down!
Starting point is 00:43:09 It's going down for real! 71% in a quarter is a lot. And so the logic that he is presenting to people who he's trying to get to invest in Tesla again, is that the reason the price went down is because he just hasn't been involved enough that like. They're making all his smart decisions that he usually does. Like he, he's not there doing the smart stuff that he usually does. And so while his eye was over here making America great, Tesla, you
Starting point is 00:43:47 know, that fell a little bit. So now he's going to come back. He also said that the lower earnings were because of the protests and that those people were, he has no evidence, but he believes those people are being paid to just to create an atmosphere of perception that Tesla is not liked. And that's just something they're going to have to overcome, because it's not real. It's not real at all. Yeah. It has nothing to do with the fact that he made
Starting point is 00:44:09 his brand profoundly and aggressively uncool, but by doing the most enthusiastic Nazi salutes since Dr. Strangelove, but in public at the inauguration. Yeah. So I will say this is, if he does in fact, pull back from his role in the government and like think that he has to go save Tesla, this would be his self delusion working for us for once. Like, which I will, you know, like he's like, I have to go over here and save
Starting point is 00:44:44 this other thing that there's no saving and he's just going to fuck up. But like, if he's moving away from fucking people's lives, uh, from, from his position in Doge, I feel like that would be, would be a good thing. But just for, I maybe for him to not be so connected, but the damage is done. And also the dough shit will not end because Elon Musk is now just taking a step back from like the public facing part of it. Like that mission is still involved. You know, big balls are still involved. And we're talking about obviously we good here.
Starting point is 00:45:19 Yeah. Yeah. Big balls is I think next in line after Russell Vought from the Project 2025 author. But yeah, that part is going to continue. But that's what's really funny to even think, even with people who are writing about this, who are just like, well, when he steps away from Doge, because obviously it's the Nazi shit, obviously it's the firing of thousands of federal workers and doing it in the dumbest fucking way possible. All of those things,
Starting point is 00:45:47 you're not just gonna shake that perception because it's over. You know what I mean? Like people weren't fucking with OJ, okay? Yeah, exactly. I feel like this is an OJ level fall off. You know what I mean? Like, I know he tried to do that reality show with the pranks,
Starting point is 00:46:06 but that got, that got shelved. And nobody really saw that. And that was after probably 30 meetings that he tried to hold with like, all right, it hurts, I'm ready to resume my work as your spokesperson. They're like, Oh no, what are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:46:20 Elon's gonna be the last to figure out how fucked he is here. But yeah, a recent survey showed, because he thinks that everything, every bad piece of news that comes his way is secretly being funded by George Soros and enacted by the deep state to lie to him for some reason. But yeah, just some information about where he stands. A recent survey showed that a lot of people hate Tesla now. According to CNBC, 47% of the public have a negative view of the car company,
Starting point is 00:46:53 which seems low to me. But compare that to General Motors, not a company that I'm like, ah, fucking General Motors, that's how it's done. That's how you save America. You know, it's just a car company. And so 51% of people have a neutral view of General Motors. There's like, yeah, it's a car company. 10% have a negative view.
Starting point is 00:47:21 To get to 47% negative view of your car company is like, you have to have fucked up. Like they don't even need to think you're that cool. They just need to not hate you. And he has failed at that very simple task. Yeah. Yeah. When people are who are driving the brand or any kind of brand, they have to put a sticker next to the logo being like, no, no, no. But like not like that, guys. Yeah, not like you're in trouble. Like, imagine if like every like NBA player had to like place a little thing next to the like Nike or Adidas logo being like, no, no, no. But like Adidas, right.
Starting point is 00:48:01 They were with the Nazis being like, no, no, no, no, but not no Nazi. The kind of Adidas. No, no, no. Yeah. I still wear Yeezys though, but. Yeah, it is the Yeezys. It's like the Clippers at that one point where the Clippers had to be like, yeah, we really don't fuck with this guy. Yeah. Their, their owner. But it's. Oh, Donald Sterling.
Starting point is 00:48:20 Yeah. Like he needs to, he needs to start selling the like Yeah, like he needs to he needs to start selling the like asterisk class that you can have the s asterisk class of Tesla Which will have a giant asterisk emblazoned on it that says no Nazi. Thank you Yes, but then they'll also reveal they'll release the SS class to Interested parties. Yeah, according to a new report from the Global Risk Advisory Council, the quote, most surefire ways for companies to damage their brands are, one, to misuse AI, that's unpopular now for some reason,
Starting point is 00:48:53 we're still looking into it, or two, to associate it with Elon Musk. Wow. Number four was associating with ISIS. So you could sooner do a collab with ISIS. Be okay then with fucking Elon Musk. I don't even know what he could do at this point. No, he's fucked.
Starting point is 00:49:17 You know, like, I know like maybe in his mind he's like, okay, they don't like the Doge stuff. So I'm going to back off from that and hopefully that'll write the ship. It's not all the shit posts and Nazi Transphobic xenophobic racist vitriol that's coming out of my Twitter feed. It can't be that either It can't be just how off-putting I am just generally as like the wealthiest man in the world Like I feel like the only way he could even maybe get a few percentage points lower is like if he gave away 80% of his like wealth to someone else to do something responsible with it, like as a, as a starting point, because even then
Starting point is 00:49:56 people will be like, Oh, well he did that. Maybe, but then you would maybe go from like 47% to like 43%. Yeah. But I just don't know. I don't think this shit's going away. Yeah. It's like, it's just, there's still analysts that are like, they're still, just still does offer some interesting growth opportunities.
Starting point is 00:50:15 And like what, they're fucking robot slaves they're making. Right. Like that is the thing, right? They, because like the way they're pitching themselves, like we're actually not really even a car company, which they have to do because their car sales are fucking bad, so they're like, uh, instead we're, we're actually, uh, we, did you see those robots that he had bartending a party that were actually people in robot suits or they were people who were being controlled by human operators.
Starting point is 00:50:42 They were not AI, but that was good enough to fool some people. We'll see. We'll see, Elon. You're not going to fool us though. It is one of those rare times where I was like, I wish I was financially literate so I could like short the Tesla stock or whatever. Like I know it's in a bad place, but I really can't imagine any scenario where it doesn't keep going down.
Starting point is 00:51:04 At this point. Yeah. Like, cause you have the true believers who are like it doesn't keep going down. At this point. Yeah. Like, cause you have the true believers who were like, don't worry, man. Elon's back. Cause the stock price got a bump off of that news, but it's probably gonna, it's probably going to go down again. Cause that's what always happens. But yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:19 I don't know. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back and we'll talk about the big story. Everybody's waiting for the, I know what you did last summer legacy sequel. Thank God. Which this story actually has a kind of mind blowing plot twist. We'll be right back. Hey kids. It's me, Kevin Smith. And it's me, Harley Quinn Smith.
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Starting point is 00:52:05 or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Israel Gutierrez, and I'm hosting a new podcast, Dub Dynasty, the story of how the Golden State Warriors have dominated the NBA for over a decade. The Golden State Warriors once again are NBA champions. From the building of the core that included Klay Thompson and Draymond Green, to one of the boldest coaching decisions
Starting point is 00:52:29 in the history of the sport. I just felt like the biggest thing was to earn the trust of the players and let the players know that we were here to try to help them take the next step, not tear anything down. Today, the Warriors dynasty remains alive, in large part because of a scrawny six foot two hooper who everyone seems to love.
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Starting point is 00:53:06 podcast. On November 5th, 2018, at 6.33 a.m., a red Volkswagen Golf was found abandoned in a ditch out in Sleephole Valley. The driver's seat door was open. No traces of footsteps leaving the vehicle. No belongings were found, except for a cassette tape lodged in the player. On that tape were 10 vile, grotesque, horrific stories that to this day have been kept restricted from the public. Until now.
Starting point is 00:53:57 You feeling this too? A horror anthology podcast. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, my man. I'm La Gata, the culture's favorite reggaeton historian, musicologist, public scholar, and recording artist. Yes, that means I've done the work. On my show, the Reggaeton con la Gata podcast, I'm not only talking to Florian Hennon, who has the number one reggaeton track in the world right now, I'm also going to be on Perreo to speak with music inhibitors like Rainao, who is known for her Mediarroquera tracks and collaborating with artists like Bob Baldy. We're also giving you the cultural
Starting point is 00:54:34 breakdown straight from the source. Listen to Reggaeton con la Gata on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. cast. And we're back. We're back. And so the trailer just dropped for the new, I know what you did last summer. It's not a remake. It's another one of those like horror legacy sequels where is that like H 20 Halloween?
Starting point is 00:55:01 Yeah. Like Halloween did a bunch of them where like original cast is included, but it's also the original movie, like, you know, mechanics are all in place. And yeah. So in this case, like, are you guys familiar with, I know what you did last summer? Yeah, somewhat. Yeah. I saw that shit in theaters.
Starting point is 00:55:23 It's, uh, it's some kids are out for a joy ride, hit somebody with their car, and then they're like, I'm going to Harvard next year. I can't have this on my record. And so they just dispose of the body and are like, we swear to never tell anyone what happens. Also the laziest, laziest disposal of a dead body. They just threw it off a dock. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:51 They just throw it in the water. You're like, bruh, take this thing out a little bit. Don't just throw it right off the dock right there. Like, okay, sure. Throw them off the dock. And then the next summer they start getting picked off one by one with little notes that say, I know what you did last summer. That's how I read it in my mind.
Starting point is 00:56:11 I know what you did last summer. Freddie Prinze Jr., Jennifer Love Hewitt, Sarah Michelle Geller. Ryan Phillips. Sarah Michelle Gells? Yeah. Ryan Philippe? Philippe? I don'tals. Yeah. Ryan. Philippe. Philippi.
Starting point is 00:56:25 I don't know. Yeah. Anyways, the legacy sequels out. Freddie Prinze and Jennifer love you. It are both in the sequel looking embarrassed to be in this trailer. Yeah. But, uh, it, so the trailer has multiple deaths where it made me, that involves spa treatments. Like the whole first thing is somebody is like, hey, babe, why don't you go up and listen to that
Starting point is 00:56:54 guided meditation you like. And then while she's like taking a bath bomb, like guided meditation, her boyfriend is like brutally slain in a, oh, also the, the killer in the first one. And I didn't think this was very successful at all was like a maritime themed killer. Like he had a hook and yellow slicker. Yeah. Yellow slicker looked like he just stepped off of like deadliest catch. A lighthouse is like an old lighthouse keeper. Drinking buddies with a Gordon's fisherman or something.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Yeah. But I don't know. It just reminded me of like a fish sticks commercial. Right. You know, like the end. Anyways, they're sticking with that because he gets like hooked by some manner of like fishing equipment while she's doing her bath bomb. But then it flashes forward to, I think it shows one of the characters in a cold plunge room, like one of those rooms where you're doing cold. So it's like multiple spa-based burgers, which made me wonder.
Starting point is 00:58:00 That really didn't stick out to me. I mean, not that you say it, but yeah. It just made me wonder because that is what it was like for the good feeling of having sex, you are repaid by being murdered by these slashers. I feel like that was always the tacit morality underlying. It wasn't explicitly stated other than in Scream 2. But that was always like the idea is like, these movies are just like America's puritanical roots, like bubbling up and being like sex is bad. We're all having sex. We're all going to die.
Starting point is 00:58:34 We're all going to be killed by like these demon characters. But because nobody has sex anymore, it's like the naughtiest thing that they can think of is like doing spa treatments Well, cuz then I guess it offers the promise of titillation with implied nudity if you're in a bath Yeah, something like it's so removed in that sense. It's like well, I mean they're naked, right? But they're just not doing sex anymore because the movies are sexless now anyways, it's another it has the same problem as one of my favorite movies, Jaws 2, where the first movie has a premise
Starting point is 00:59:13 that requires multiple characters to be like, how is this happening? This is so weird. This is like a one in a trillion scenario. Then the same thing happens again, but 20 years later to a completely new group of people, I guess in the first batch of sequels, at least it was happening to the same person.
Starting point is 00:59:32 But this is like, yeah, I don't know, man. This keeps happening here. It's so weird. But all right. This is the detail. This is the plot twist that our writer JM found out about the original movie. The original movie was actually based on a YA book by Louis Duncan. Or Lois? Lois?
Starting point is 00:59:52 Lois? Louise Duncan? It was a thriller. So it was not a slasher movie. There were no gruesome deaths. It was just like they did the original thing and then had to deal with the guilt and also somebody being like, I know what you did last summer. But the person who said, I know what you did last summer was not a maritime themed, a fish sticks themed slasher monster killing them all
Starting point is 01:00:19 one by one. Hollywood turned it into that. So they piled like the premise of scream on top of this young adult novel, which probably could have worked easily without, without being a slasher movie. But this is particularly fucked up because the author of that YA novel who sold the rights to them to make this into a movie, her daughter was the victim of an unsolved murder. Oh my gosh. She said specifically they did not consult her. She was horrified at what they did with her novel because she said,
Starting point is 01:00:57 quote, it made murder seem like a game. The studio was like, we actually didn't know about your daughter, and we expressed the utmost compassion. Specifically, they were like, I mean, you'd be a monster not to feel compassion. Then they just kept turning out sequels and remakes regardless. Well, this is, again,
Starting point is 01:01:23 I love shit from my childhood coming back or not really. Come on. I'm nostalgic, but not to the point. Or like, I need to remind it that I'm old, like Freddie Prince Jr. And Jennifer, you know, too. I mean, it's just like this is the same thing we're talking about, like with vamp, like with sinners, like stop remaking this shit over and over again, hoping that you're going to get the same return because it did well in 1997. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:50 And just there's, I'm sure they, there's so many scripts on the blacklist that you could pick up that are new ideas that are probably do even better for even less money and everybody wins if you're worried about your bottom line to Hollywood, come on now. even less money. Everybody wins if you're worried about your bottom line to Hollywood. Come on now. I mean, just look at the fucking Minecraft movie just did incredibly well because and again, it did pass my
Starting point is 01:02:14 flea. I talk on the show about the Halloween costume test where like if a movie is like about a thing that there are lots of Halloween costumes for like it's going to do well. And like the Minecraft movie passed that test. Why aces? Yeah. So many kids are doing Minecraft. But it's funny, I feel like you probably could have had that observation
Starting point is 01:02:36 and you did years ago because it's been so popular and now Hollywood is like, what's this Minecraft? Yeah. It's so many years later. this Minecraft? Yeah, yeah. So many years later. Yeah. But anyways, yeah, like their kids are, kids want to see stuff that, and this is gonna be kind of mind blowing
Starting point is 01:02:55 to a lot of Hollywood executives, but they're interested in seeing things that they're interested in and not stuff that their parents have memories of. Round breaking. That's weird. Now, that's kind of weird. Yeah, they're going into these movies being not being like, would my dad think this was interesting?
Starting point is 01:03:15 I don't know, but I remember when my my dad would try and show me a movie. My first instinct was like, this is going to be some bullshit. It's going to suck shit. This fool is washed as hell. I don't want to see the Andromeda strain. Fuck that. Like, no. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:03:31 I get maybe at the time, like if I had more of adult taste perhaps, but yeah, that reflex I think is inbuilt in a lot of kids where like a parent goes, you know what you'd really like that I used to watch? Absolutely not. Yeah. I'm going to stop you right there, mom.
Starting point is 01:03:45 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why miles didn't watch Jurassic park until he was in his thirties because his dad pitched it to him as from the author of the Andromeda strain. Yeah. Well, like not again, dad. And then I'm like, why didn't you tell me?
Starting point is 01:03:59 Yeah. Yeah. Go see dinosaurs. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. The Andromeda strain. Felipe is a Peabody award winning writer. Emmy nominee. What's your sort of, what's your feelings around writing in the industry and what,
Starting point is 01:04:14 like what the habits are of the industry and the stories they choose to write and knowing the amount of talent that's out there waiting to be acknowledged? I mean, I think the industry is going to eventually like find out again that like original stories are like what people want. We are seeing more, a little bit more of them happening slowly, but I think the, the era of like everything has to be a Marvel movie. I think audiences are kind of tired of that. Like they don't want to go to see 20 Marvel movies, especially because going to the movies
Starting point is 01:04:51 is kind of expensive now. Yeah. So like, you have to see like three movies. I'm a huge comic book nerd and I hadn't watched that new Captain America movie. I haven't seen it yet. Cause I'm like, I, I kind of didn't watch one of the other ones. I haven't seen the TV shows in a while. Right. Partially why I like also like fell off the wagon with comics, it feels like homework. You know, so when everything not everything has to be a big interconnected universe, you know, and I think they're they're like getting back there. Hopefully we'll get there. But you know, in the meantime, I think we're gonna have a lot of movies from like weird IP like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like'll get there. But you know in the meantime, I think we're gonna have a lot of movies from like weird IP like like that that flaming hot Cheetos movie A couple years ago. Yeah, it's like yeah
Starting point is 01:05:35 We talked on yesterday's trending episode about the fact that they're they they're adapting toys are us toys are us Yeah, the store toys are us they're adapting itys R Us. Toys R Us, yeah. The store, Toys R Us. They're adapting it as an Induo movie. Yeah, they're gonna make Dasani the movie. Dasani, now that's a good idea. That's a slasher flick though. It's about like a brain parasite that someone got from drinking a bottle of Dasani. At least Theron is attached.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Yeah, exactly. It's Contagion, but it's actually contagion. They just reran it at Dasani. Dasani. Because people are drinking Dasani throughout. Yeah. Felipe Torres, Medina, what a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? And where can they find your book? My book is basically at every bookstore, every indie bookstore you want.
Starting point is 01:06:25 You can if you want to buy it off Amazon. Sure, you can buy it off Amazon, too. You can buy it on Bookshop.org wherever you want to buy it. Go to your local bookstore. I think this this Saturday is Indie Bookstore Day. So that's like a fun plan. Go out there. You can find me on social media. I'm at Philippa Torres Medina on Instagram.
Starting point is 01:06:44 I'm at Philippa T.ina on Instagram. I'm at Philippe T Medina with two A's Medina on Twitter. And I think like Philippe Torres Medina dot blue sky dot all that stuff on blue sky. I have a sub stack called not from here. So you can just look for Philippe Petard's media sub stack. Yeah, and if you're in LA, I'm doing a book event this Saturday at Village Well in Culver City. If you want to come and be talking to my friend who's a very funny comedian from Venezuela whose name is Joanna Houseman. We met in New York, we're big pals.
Starting point is 01:07:21 So it's going to be really fun. That sounds awesome. Is there work of media that you've been enjoying? Yes, I've been reading this novel by a Karen Russell. She wrote a novel called Twanplandia a couple of years ago, which has a very interesting thing where like it was not nominated for the Pulitzer Prize and then the Pulitzer Prize was like no one wins this year just because they're like we couldn't agree on who wins so no one won that year. Interesting. It was super weird
Starting point is 01:07:51 but that I read that novel and it was really good and now she has a new novel called The Antidote and I've been like it's like it's a big book about the Dust Bowl and you're like oh this might be like a big heavy thing and it's just super fun really good i love the dust bowl what's the name of the novel the antidote the ant because it's about like a witch who lives in the dust bowl and her name is the antidote very cool book highly recommend uh that sounds incredible miles where can people find you is there a work of media you've been enjoying yeah yeah, you can find me everywhere that has at symbols at miles of gray. You can find Jack and I talking about the NBA on miles and Jack got mad boosties.
Starting point is 01:08:34 You can also find last night. Like I look, you know, or the day before technically but yeah, you know, had to recover from that game one loss. Also find me talking about the reality show that I cannot I believe anecdotally genius people do watch which is 90 day fiance, that's on 420 day fiance, check me out there with Sophia Alexandra, a couple of tweets like there's this like
Starting point is 01:08:57 tick tock video that's been going around on blue sky that I've seen of this just like total zoomer, tick tock propagandist who's in a Salvadoran prison. And he's like, the video is called the El Salvador prison the media doesn't want you to see. And he's basically going around being like, these prisoners, if they work, they're able to take time off their sentences
Starting point is 01:09:16 to just work it. Like making these garments. It's actually quite fair. And at redsettle.rs, red settlers basically, had like posted, like quote tweeted this video and said one of the tasks of the American left is to explain to retail and service workers that this is the future that America has planned for them. And then that was quote tweeted by at Papa P shoe at B Sky dot school social Chris person in parenthetical said zoom or tick tock in sepia tone and old timey garb. Yo, this shirt waste factory in New York City can produce thousands of women's blouses a day and employs hundreds of fallen women. The best part is they don't even have any exits for the workers.
Starting point is 01:10:00 They're grinding and hustling. That's inefficient. One way in, one way way out the hustlers way How much are they on their grindset mindset? So even have exits? Surrounded by flammable rags anyway, and then another one I like is from Stone Cold Jane Austin at Abby Higgs stuff He's got a social says sorry. I can't hang out. I drank some milk that didn't get inspected and I'm dying social, uh, says, sorry, I can't hang out. I drank some milk that didn't get inspected and I'm dying. Hey man, we've all been, why's the FDA on trial, man,
Starting point is 01:10:29 just because they're going to really stop inspecting milk as much as they should be. Tweet I've been enjoying from at girl talks ball. There's only one active Pope right now and his name is contiguous. That's cause well, yep. Can'tavius Caldwell Pope. Uh, you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on blue sky at Jack. OB the number one.
Starting point is 01:10:54 You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. We're at the daily Zeitgeist. Uh, we're also on blue sky at daily Zeitgeist. We're at the daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it. You can find the footnotes, which is where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode. We also link off to a song that we think you might enjoy.
Starting point is 01:11:16 Yeah. Hey, Myles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy? Yeah, yeah. This is a track from a group called Free Whenever. And it's a really dude, if you like krungbin, you're gonna like this. You're gonna like their vibes. This track is called Day One. Just super easy. Listen. Great, great laid back vibes. The weather, you know, spring is getting a little bit springier in LA.
Starting point is 01:11:40 So this is I feel like a song that aligns with that. That's why I'm saying we should go out on this day one by free whenever. Sprungy vibes. Yeah, yeah. All right, well, The Daily Zyte Guys is a production of iHeartRadio for more podcasts from iHeartRadio. Visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.
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