The Daily Zeitgeist - Elon = Turd Of The Year, Broke Teacher Battle Royale 12.14.21

Episode Date: December 14, 2021

In episode 1050, Jack and Miles are joined by writer, filmmaker, actor, and producer Ali Vingiano to discuss Rand Paul, who famously hates disaster relief, WANTS HIS DISASTER RELIEF MONEY, Elon Musk N...amed Person of the Year, Chris Wallace Left Fox - Fox Getting Ready For The New Reich, America still doing the late capitalism feel good nonsense and more! Rand Paul, who famously hates disaster relief, WANTS HIS DISASTER RELIEF MONEY Elon Musk Named Person of the Year Chris Wallace Left Fox - Fox Getting Ready For The New Reich 2 Fox News commentators resign over Tucker Carlson series on the Jan. 6 siege America still doing the late capitalism feel good nonsense Follow: @therealalivingiano @alivingianoLISTEN: Silent Night by Cafe Music BGM Channel Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:57 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 21 215 episode 2 of your daily zeitgeist a production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it is monday december 14th 2021 which i don't have to tell you all but miles might have to tell you guys that it is, of course, national. Oh, you want to know what December 14th is? It's National Booyah Base Day. Thank you. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:31 So if you love that wonderful soupy goodness that is the French's wonderful contribution to our gastronomic culture, celebrate by making, I think, what is something very easy to fuck up. I feel like a booyahaisse is not like mac and cheese. But anyway, celebrate a bouillabaisse. Yeah, just toss some bouillabaisse together. I love Kraft Instant Bouillabaisse. It's one of my favorites. Right.
Starting point is 00:02:55 I like a cup of bouillabaisse. All right. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Nancy Davis. Went to town with the dummy throat game. Married a dumb guy named Ron and waged a war on cocaine. Nancy Reagan, go away. Try some drugs, old lady. Fire your psychic.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Take a hit. You could have saved the 80s. That is courtesy of Schweitz and Mail-A-Clabo. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Jack popping through your window, even if you're not in clothes. Trying to sell you products, despite the fact that you're indisposed. One of my other podcasts covers marriages and weeds but that's not the daily zeitgeist here we give you news you need hosting apps with jack ob this here's miles of gray
Starting point is 00:03:56 so sit still for daily zeit we'll come back for trends tonight i wish it was a little bit closer to the actual lyrics there but overall the brew shout out to you for that. Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer inspired, a.k.a. referencing our wonderful podcast ad reading style. And also all praise to the other podcast for 20 Day Fiancé. All praise. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny writer, filmmaker, actor who you've seen in the
Starting point is 00:04:25 largely improvised rom-com feature the end of us which premiered at south by in 2021 she's a writer and producer on the morning show on apple tv plus you might have heard of it i was a field producer on the opposition with jordan klepper probably seen her in short films that she wrote directed and produced that are like actual short films, but have somehow managed to go super viral, which is pretty impressive. The good kind of short films. Yeah. Please welcome the brilliant and talented Allie Vingiano.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Allie! Thank you so much for having me. I am stunned by your songs. Truly stunning. Yeah, so we try and keep things up top. Very Morning Zoo. And that includes bad parody songs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:12 To introduce ourselves. Shout out to the people. You know, there are people like whose careers is like to write those like Morning Zoo bits. Like, I don't know if you've heard like in other parts of the country. You'll just hear random comedy bits. And you're like, what the fuck was that yeah they're those writers rooms a salute to them you know doing the i guess the lord's work but yeah i felt especially strong kinship with like a morning zoo parody songwriter with with the nancy reagan blow. Yeah. I feel like that is,
Starting point is 00:05:45 uh, that could literally be pulled from a morning zoo show. I just like how I was off the internet for two days. Cause I was at a wedding and then I come back to, why are people calling Nancy Reagan the throat goat? And I'm like, what the fuck is happening already? I turned my back on the computer for fucking 48 hours.
Starting point is 00:06:08 And I woke up and saw my phone and like i was like why are people talking about nancy reagan and i literally shouted to my fiance like in the other room i was like why are people tweeting about nancy reagan and he just started laughing so loudly like okay wait what happened wait what did happen though i just know that she was being talked about and i just saw throat go and i said i don't have time so ben shapiro's sister tweeted about like something to the event she put a picture of madonna at 68 next to a picture of nancy reagan at 68 and was like madonna's a piece of trash this is like what conservatism is all about and then somebody replied and was like oh Madonna's a piece of trash. This is like what conservatism is all about. And then somebody replied and was like,
Starting point is 00:06:47 oh, you should check out this Kitty Kelly biography of Nancy Reagan, nay Davis, and how she had made a name for herself for giving really good blowjobs on the MGM lot. That was her kind of calling card for a while before Ronnie. I think that's implied that that's how she met him because he was an actor on the M-Jam lot.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Right. It's a wonderful meet-cute. Yeah, and look at them. Tale as old as time and then you completely destroy the 80s. Yeah, just a fabric of American society. Yeah, exactly. Allie, you are a first rate guest on
Starting point is 00:07:27 our second rate podcast how's it going with the uh with the morning show that's a that's a show golden globe today jesus no big deal no big deal although i feel like the golden globes i feel like there's like controversy surrounding them now but we did get nominated which was cool season two is all out now yeah and super fun to have to have written for I mean we shot it during COVID so I was not on set the way I was for season one everyone had like an iPad to watch but um but it's yeah it's very very fun season, and I think they're just figuring out season three now. Cool. Very cool. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:10 We are team Golden Globes here in this household. Are you? Okay. Well, my mom's on the board. Miles' mom's on the board. Full disclosure. And honestly, to be honest, watching the coverage of it I think is really interesting because in a way, I feel like the industry's found a way to scapegoat a group of foreign journalists by saying like where
Starting point is 00:08:29 are the black journalists in this group where the qualifications to be in the hfda is you you're published in a foreign country and you also live in the united states so there are like many i think diverse journalists in like like in many countries that, you know, they that are writing about film. But this but the qualifications to be in the HFPA is then from, OK, are like South America and saying, where's the diversity here? They're like this very American lens. And I do think that they really should be helping to facilitate more journalists to say, for example, be like, I would love to do that. But it's just impossible for me to move to the United States, get a visa, have a job to stay here for a long time that you can have an endowment to like actually do that. that you can have an endowment to actually do that. But then I feel like we've completely avoided a much larger investigation or examination of the industry,
Starting point is 00:09:37 the publicist machinery that we have, how they protect the lack of diversity overall that exists within the industry. So yes, while it is, I think on paper, it looks one way. I think a lot of the coverage has stripped a lot of the nuance just generally on how the industry as a whole could be improved without just saying like, hey man, the Golden Globes, huh? Anyway, don't look at our C-suites. Don't look at the people in development positions. Don't look at the people who are directing. You know, and I think that's where
Starting point is 00:09:57 I get a little emotional. But yeah, other than that, congrats though. I think well deserved. Oh, well, thank you. I do agree with you. Congrats on your award, though. Yeah, congrats on that. Yeah, well, we're thrilled. But I think that you are right where it's easy to hold up the Golden Globes.
Starting point is 00:10:22 It's like, look, this is bad. This is bad. But we can still go to the Osccars the emmys are cool like there is this issue where it's like there isn't one award show that is particularly good at analyzing diversity in hollywood and actually getting to the crux of the issue and a lot of times these studios use the award shows to celebrate their commitment to diversity and at the same time these are the same studios that are treating their assistants like crap underpaying people making sure budgets are as low as possible so the people who are less who have the least protections on set get the worst treatments the worst hours the worst salary
Starting point is 00:10:54 like there's so many deep issues of diversity that the studios actually need to confront and instead a lot of times they'll use an award show to have a very performative celebration of diversity in terms of talent. But there are so many deeper issues that need to be analyzed. So I do think that the sort of vilification of the Golden Globes is a little simple. I don't know. It's definitely not as simple as it seems. It's a little pet. It's a little pet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:22 And I think, but it's like anything, right? Even in politics, there's always the sort of revolving door, the villain du jour that sort of helps stop the conversation about going further to have a real reckoning. Like, it's so easy to just blame Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema for a lack of the infrastructure moves. But that now allows the conversation to only be about that and not like much larger layers of control and influence that really need to be assessed. All that to say, great. What a day. All that to say, congratulations. Congratulations. I mean, I think we covered everything right there. I don't think we need to do the rest of the show. Yeah. Thanks for having me. That was kind of the big problem. All right. we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment ally but first we are going to tell our listeners a few of the things we're talking about we're just going to check in with ran paul who is famously hates
Starting point is 00:12:15 disaster relief is just on record fuck disaster relief oh you need disaster okay fuck you pay me is kind of where he comes in on that. Except now he wants disaster relief, which he absolutely should get. It was a fucking horrifying weekend in Kentucky. So we will talk about that. It has been made official. We now can officially look up to Elon Musk as our greatest person. Time magazine has named him person of the year.
Starting point is 00:12:43 So yeah, we're going to read the first couple paragraphs of that article just because I just want to see where we're at as a culture. The darkest thing is I actually think they got that right. Like, I think that's the right pick. Not like he's the best person, but that he is like the person who makes sense for time to choose as their person of the year. Right. So we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:13:05 We'll look at how Fox News is getting ready for the new Reich 2024. Chris Wallace left. So we'll see. We'll see what's going on there. We will look at the big hockey game fundraiser for it was like feel good. Watch these teachers get donations for school supplies. And it's just like one of those details. It would be great, a great detail in a futuristic dystopia. And it happened this weekend and people were like, that's so nice. Right. So we'll talk about that.
Starting point is 00:13:39 All that, plenty more. But first, Allie, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? You know, I just looked as I was getting ready for this, and it's about six articles on the succession season finale. Oh, yeah. Now, there is a spoiler that I actually don't give a shit about. I will say nothing. I haven't watched it. I fell asleep right when it started. You fell asleep?
Starting point is 00:14:03 Yeah, I was so tired. Again, I came back from a wedding i had to finish the last episode and i was watching with my partner her majesty and we were just speculating what happened to jeremy strong on that float she's like is he just he just died on that thing and i'm like i don't know i mean like if they did they really didn't see that well enough for me to believe that he was like an addict to the point where he was going to you know sort of perish in a shallow sort of face down floaty death all that to say i have not seen it yet so many questions will be answered about this season when i watch it later today yeah i feel like this seeded it well enough i could totally buy that but okay okay all right i think that's
Starting point is 00:14:42 why that episode was so like compelling to people because it's like it really could go either way like i feel like they've built to it and on the other hand it's like shocking and would be like surprising in so many ways yeah but also like very like the kind of show that is prestige tv where they're like oh you think everyone can just fucking live right everything is temporary they're gone well i, you think everyone can just fucking live? Everything is temporary. They're gone. Well, I will say the finale, they stick the landing every fucking season. Like, it's just
Starting point is 00:15:12 so good. Like, I won't say any spoilers, except I did watch it at like midnight and then stayed up far too late reading everything I could find about it. Yeah. Penultimate episode of season three is that's when we've lost some of the greats in the history of TV. Spoiler alert, your stringer bell.
Starting point is 00:15:32 Oh, OK. Who else? I mean, that's the one that sticks out. Is that the Red Wedding episode? I think it was the Red Wedding episode. I think so, too. Yeah. I could be wrong. In your face, Miles.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I mean, OK, no, I just didn wrong. In your face miles. I mean, okay. No, I just didn't know what, I didn't know what we were talking about, but yeah, I think those are always the, that's what I love about a show when they,
Starting point is 00:15:51 they don't like, there's no such thing as like sentimentality around the character. And it's for the purely for, this is the story we're telling. They don't live. Okay. Yeah. Deal with it.
Starting point is 00:16:01 What is something you think is overrated out? New year's Eve. eve it's gonna be my answer here yeah go on like there's never for me like there's hardly ever a good new year's eve because the expectations when you're young are like so high like you want it to be like the best sign of your life a huge party the next day is january 1st like you have all these expectations for all this change that's gonna magically happen and like it's there's so much build to it and because of that you're either like drastically disappointed or it's just like fine I I feel like last year even celebrating New Year's Eve in COVID we just like made a nice dinner and like had a nice night in and you're
Starting point is 00:16:43 still sort of like sad that you don't get to go out but when you do go out i feel like it's either like every you're either way too drunk or like i don't know i just feel like there's so much build around new year's eve and this year i'm like trying to just do some like get some friends and like go to an airbnb or like take a trip or like do something that's like takes the pressure off trying to like just wait around and hope there's like some party that is going to make 2022 the best year of your life. Right. I mean, on the other side of the spectrum, last year I went to like a warehouse rave and that also wasn't that great. That sounds fun. Because it was illegal.
Starting point is 00:17:21 Yeah, it was illegal. The power was cut off to the entire neighborhood halfway through and but hey you got a part but you can't let the government tell you what to do new year's i know it's true it's unlike succession finales very hard to stick the landing when you when you release yourself from the parallel bars of planning the new year's eve night because yeah it's always like you think it's gonna go one way then one of your friends gets like morbidly drunk and it's like well now this person's in a dire emergency and now that's new year's eve or someone fucking breaks up like on the way there and you
Starting point is 00:17:57 have one like morose friend who's like i can't believe you fucking broke up you're like oh fuck yeah or you end up spending way too much money at some stupid like back when i would do the when i was younger and doing that hollywood kid shit be like yo we're gonna get a bottle over here it's gonna be lit cut to you spent too much money you had you didn't meet anyone because you despite your idea of buying a bottle of champagne it doesn't make up for your lack of communication skills with potential romantic partners. So I always like to do, like the home, low-key home thing, I think has been the one consistent
Starting point is 00:18:31 sort of version of it where we can, doesn't have to be a rager, but it's more just about having a good time. You know? Yeah. Totally. I feel like the real villain here
Starting point is 00:18:40 is just expectations, like too high expectations. That movie, New Year's Eve. Ah, have you seen it? in here is just expectations like too high expectations that movie new year's eve uh have you seen it the one that no but isn't that the one that had everyone in it it's when they were like love actually worked let's try this six more times for holidays saint patrick's day there is a valentine's day for sure i think seth meyers is in it yeah yeah yeah it's a classic yeah i think i think low-key has been like i have only started enjoying new year's eve since having kids and like having all pressure taken off to do anything but like
Starting point is 00:19:22 stay yeah yeah that's why like in japan it's nice too like we we get together new year's day like like on new year's eve it's not a it's not like yo you're gonna get wild out at midnight like people like it's just whatever day the day is the next the next following few days to just be at home don't. You've like pre-made all this food. So no one has to do anything. And you just really just veg out with the family. And there's always ridiculous New Year's or like New Year's specials on TV. Most of the time when people see like viral clips of Japanese television, it's typically a New Year's special where they're just doing all kinds of wild stuff or celebrities show up to do like something weird. stuff or celebrities show up to do like something weird so yeah we should do a episode soon about like the other countries that have like better holiday traditions just so our listeners can like
Starting point is 00:20:11 steal them because that sounds so much fucking better than yeah well i think because everything kind of ends up being like about consumerism on some level right now like and not to say that eating a ton isn't but it's like in our minds we have this like it's a party man like you're gonna put on a fancy dress and it's like you gotta do some next level shit for new year's more than saying like hey it's been a whole year like let's check in with everybody and i guess like another version of thanksgiving really but yeah and it's like here it's like the year's over like let's just get so drunk and like celebrate the past year and i feel like what you're talking about and i don't know if this
Starting point is 00:20:50 is accurate for like what how it is in japan but like it's a celebration of the new year of like it's a new year it's the first of january like let's celebrate today how we want to spend our year and like exactly like that's how i'm trying to shift it in my mind of like whatever i'm doing in new year's is just like a good way to like introduce my next year of my life and like maybe i don't need to be like violently hung over on that day america new year's is like all about cognitive dissonance with like just treating yourself like absolute shit while being like this year i'm gonna treat myself incredibly well oh my god but that's so appropriate like that's absolutely it's consumerism and uh just unrealistic ideals about self hey a challenge to everyone listening imagine you you wake up on the first without a fucking hangover and you don't spend that your first waking hours of a new year going like,
Starting point is 00:21:47 what the fuck did I do? Try, you know, like in Japan, like you want to go and you want to greet the first sunrise of the new year. That's like a huge thing. So like, in a way you have to be on top of your shit to wake up for the fucking
Starting point is 00:21:58 sunrise and then start your year. I thought you were going to challenge him to imagine dragons. What, uh, what is something you think is underrated? starts your year. I thought you were going to challenge them to Imagine Dragons. What is something you think is underrated? There are so many things I think are underrated. Like, I was thinking about rain in LA and how everyone plays out the rain and how the rain is my favorite
Starting point is 00:22:16 thing. And then I had this moment yesterday that I really cherished, which was when I went to the bathroom at a restaurant and I came back and my food was there. And I was like, is there a better feeling in the world? Yeah, the best. Especially like sometimes you'll go to the bathroom hoping that that's what's going to happen. You're like, oh man, I thought it would be here. Fuck it. I'm just going to go to the bathroom and maybe that'll be the window in which it arrives. Yeah. Like you're maybe can
Starting point is 00:22:44 sort of catalyze the delivery by going to the bathroom. I'm trying to like wheel it into the universe by leaving the table. You come back, it's not there, and you're like, actually, I gotta go. Sorry, I forgot to poop, I guess.
Starting point is 00:22:58 I forgot to poop. Rain in LA is like a phenomenon that I was not aware of until I started living out here but the air is because it's usually so dry the air is like thick with dust and smog and but it's like a lot of you know just everything is is dusty the reason that like you know road crews need a truck out there to like spray down the dust so that it's you know there's just no water so the dust is like hanging in the air and then like you don't realize that like everything is like being like you're seeing everything through like a
Starting point is 00:23:37 screen of haze and then it rains and like the air is like cleaned out of all that and it's like suddenly like five times prettier like right and you're like what have i been inhaling on yeah yeah exactly dude like air quality in la i obsess over it in like an unhealthy way probably but we all are inhaling like it's just like the pollution is insane i think clean air is another underrated thing because like when i go to new york where my family lives i'm just like oh my god this is how i'm supposed to breathe right like my skin is better like yeah so when it rains it's just like a sweet in la it's like a sweet day of just like incredible air quality and also just the rain it's like so like needed like, and it's just like the way
Starting point is 00:24:25 the plants react to it. Like, it's just like to have a gloomy LA day. It's, I mean, I grew up on the East coast, so I love like the snow. I love rain. I love like just whether that changes. Yeah. So one note here. Oh, I love it.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Yeah. But yeah, the rain is like, to your point about like how we desperately, like we actually the earth around here needs it it really is like it's like that sip of water in the middle of a hangover like in the middle and you're like i need yes and like that's how the sit like the plants react like oh fucking thank god so i i do like in some weird way i feel feel the same way. I'm like, oh, yes, good, because the Earth needs this shit right now. Yeah. It's like the Mad Max scene when he like releases the water faucet and it goes down.
Starting point is 00:25:12 And like, it's just like, thank heavens. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Rand Paul, unfortunately. Paul, unfortunately. I'm Dr. Laurie Santos, host of the Happiness Lab podcast.
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Starting point is 00:29:33 and we're back and just a horrifying weekend in kentucky missouri illinois arkansas and tennessee particularly kentucky 80 people i think i mean 80 people total i think i think about 64 in Kentucky at the moment. Yeah, we're killed in 64 in Kentucky. And yeah, just horrifying devastation. And yeah, I don't know. It's just another reminder that we need help. We need a safety system there in place to help people. And, you know, combat pollution, you know, do that part too. And yeah, I'm bringing up Rand Paul because the, you know combat pollution you know do that part too and yeah i'm bringing up rand paul because the you know he he wrote this letter to joe biden that's like demanding like disaster relief for the state as if he's like trump you know like because as if joe biden's like would it just sweep up all
Starting point is 00:30:21 your tornado causing leaves or like whatever you you know, Trump would like condition aid on? Like, did you vote for this? Well, then maybe you're not a human who has been in a disaster. So the way he wrote his quote last night and early this morning, devastating storms swept across multiple states, including Kentucky. Just sort of goes on, not really asking for the relief, but merely like demanding is like, I'm urgently, you know, suggesting that you, you know, listen to the governor's plea for assistance. You know, I think a lot of people were just like, Oh, wow, it's very rich. Because again, this is someone who regularly votes against disaster relief, like to the point where you're like, do you think nothing will ever happen to the Commonwealth of Kentucky that might warrant the need for disaster relief. Like in 2013, he was like, well, when the hurricane was going off in New Jersey, New York,
Starting point is 00:31:09 he was like accusing Chris Christie of just like sort of being greedy and just trying to get his hands on money. And it's like also voted against like giving FEMA fucking money. So their budgets were like intact. So it was just a very odd turn where suddenly the person who regularly acts like he doesn't need anything has like this very you know demanding attitude hostile attitude and like a long alongside it i think we also saw a lot of takes on like twitter especially of people like sort of laughing at kentucky because like you voted for mitch mcconnell and it's like kind of a similar thing like when te when Texas had their blackouts, like suddenly,
Starting point is 00:31:46 I mean, especially if like many, like, you know, big D Democrat, liberal Twitter accounts are like, ha ha ha. And like,
Starting point is 00:31:53 this is don't replay the same, like nonsense. Like at the end of the day, you please refocus everything to understand that people are fucking people. And in a disaster, like they need to be helped don't don't condition that i'm like oh you voted for mitch mcconnell therefore and i get that you think that it's it's antithetical to somebody to vote for people who are regularly passing legislation that
Starting point is 00:32:16 you know are existential threats to them but on some level when you're looking at things like this i don't know how like you look at that and go yeah if i was in that situation i want people to like laugh at the who's the governor of my state or something right yeah i think empathy is probably the way to go on any any of these they they didn't in general yeah yeah yeah 100 i mean it's i think it's such a gross take seeing that on twitter from like liberals and like it's as if there's this disconnect from the facts like a hunt like there's this idea that a hundred percent of the people in Kentucky voted for Mitch McConnell so they deserve this and that's like actually not how our system works and a lot of people didn't vote for Mitch McConnell and the Democrats put up spent all
Starting point is 00:32:58 their money on Amy McGrath when Charles Booker was like an amazing candidate like there's so many other political things happening and none of that shit actually matters. Like what matters is just that people are dying and they deserve relief. And Rand Paul is also an idiot. And the point of the government is to help the people. So I think relief aid is a good idea and disasters. Right.
Starting point is 00:33:18 Yeah. The fact that he's like putting it in the tone of like that, this is partisan politics. Like this is an episode of crossfire and he's like debating joe biden on whether or not to send the aid is pretty silly yeah and i think just in general people and it again speaks to the polarization that's happening because we've won you know in both registered voters of both parties still are defaulting to like well they're not real people right sort of thing and i think that's precisely why we're kind of in the state that we're in when
Starting point is 00:33:51 i think you'd hope that sort of the first response out of people who seemingly think they're people of goodwill would be empathy to say that is so fucked up yeah we need to help them otherwise but then it's just more of a reflection like well they they laugh when bad things happen in these other states well that's that's how they choose to look at the world that's not that's not how we're going to get through anything we actually have to work together and you're seeing that in all these states like very quickly you know i think partisan ideologies begin to sort of disappear like in the face of a disaster like that and you're seeing people in all these states really you know having to help each other right if there's a partisan angle to it i would like not that i think there is but if i was like desperate to make a take on twitter like
Starting point is 00:34:35 i think it would be like wow look how rammed paul the government that you've elected in your state is not helping you like that's really sad like there's other people who want to help you like i feel like that is like maybe the only way in and like but again like i don't think it matters like i think all that matters is that people are safe and we look out for each other when people are dying from circumstances that they can't control yeah i think yeah the like you know the pandemic sort of blew open how america is going to respond to things like things that are out of people's control where people needlessly lose their lives or there could be ways to keep people safe is immediately turns into a like well that's
Starting point is 00:35:16 how those people think they're going to stay safe and that's how we think we're going to stay safe and that i think that continuing deterioration of that is, you know, hope to blunt that momentum, but we shall see. Yeah, that's a good point that we, I guess I shouldn't be surprised when they're politicizing a tornado that killed, you know, 90 people when they politicized something that killed more people than all American wars combined. Right. something that killed more people than all american wars combined so right all right on to better news our hero has been officially coronated by the mainstream media time has announced their person of the year 2021 elon musk baby and i just want to read the opening paragraph
Starting point is 00:36:00 because i think it's like a perfect tone poem for like what for our current moment and just the feeling i get when people quote elon musk to me which and also when people attribute quotes by smarter people to elon musk which i've seen happen a couple times all right here's here's how it opens the richest man in the world does not own a house and has recently been selling off his fortune. So he's basically like a hero, a philanthropist. He tosses satellites into orbit and harnesses the sun. He drives a car he created that uses no gas and barely needs a driver. With a flick of his finger, the stock market soars or swoons. a driver. With a flick of his finger,
Starting point is 00:36:44 the stock market soars or swoons. An army of devotees hangs on his every utterance. He dreams of Mars as he bestrides Earth, square-jawed and indomitable. Lately, Elon Musk also likes to live-tweet his
Starting point is 00:37:00 poops. Yeah, there it is no say less time say less we get it that is that is our person of the year right those opening sentences real just the way that they're like making like he doesn't own a house he's been selling off his fortune right like the the awe that we're supposed to feel from these statements is he's a real people's hero wow this guy who's the richest person in the history of the fucking planet how kind of him to sell his fortune with all the other things he could do with it i'm so happy that he's selling it and hopped for money right to earn money from it exactly yeah he's so good he sold his stuff for money oh my god we love him what the what like no oh my god there's so many issues i have with this opening line and every other line in it
Starting point is 00:38:00 but please jack give us more they treat the so the comedy thing is one of the like just things that upsets me the most because people because he treats himself as like a serious like funny person like people treat him as that and that's what so that's where it goes from the lately elon musk likes to live tweet his poops. They say the next paragraph, just dropping some friends off at the pool. The 50 year old zillionaire informed his 66 million Twitter followers on the evening of November 29th, having previously advised that at least half his tweets were made on a porcelain throne. After an interval, 21 minutes, if you must know, an update, splish splash. And then this is Elon's response. Sometimes I do hit some resonant notes
Starting point is 00:38:50 with respect to humor. So I guess he's saying like, I fucking nailed it with that. Is that how I translate that? He's like, yeah, I guess I am pretty fucking funny sometimes. It's like a C-3PO version of the sentence I nailed it. It's like as if it was not written by a human.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Sometimes I do hit some resonant notes with respect to humor jokes. As you know, brevity is the soul of wit, and sometimes I do hit some resonant notes with respect to humor. Oh, okay. Yeah. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:39:24 I don't think i have the like life in me to continue to read from the article but like they just really fucking love him as does everybody i think they got it right like with this pick because i like was trump the person last year wasn't like don't they normally try to pick like controversial people i think biden was the person last year? Don't they normally try to pick controversial people? I think Biden was the person last year. Yeah. Which we didn't even know if he was going to win at that point, right? I mean, the election was...
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yeah. I guess if you're saying, like, stop the steal in that sense. Miles, you know I'm always saying, you know that's the subtext of everything i say is stop the fucking steal bro stop the steal no yeah it was 2020 was joint kamala and joe got it and then 2019 greta thunberg yeah oh wow 2016 was trump got it they just pick the winner whenever an election happens but yeah i mean i don't know like this they're used to i like i like to think of like celebrities and like brands and like i thought like einstein had the market cornered for like smart quotes like people would attribute anything they thought was smart to einstein they'd be like einstein actually once said and then like fucking tell you something that was in
Starting point is 00:40:50 like a kurt vonnegut book or something but like now i'm seeing that happen with elon musk like he's our new like smart guy super genius and i think that's a step down because his uh intelligence is also paired with like globe destroying fucking privilege and greed but i don't know and the people who are like into him are always like you know people who aspire to be uh billionaires i feel like not all of them but i don't think anyone who i know who's an elon musk stan has a happiness or fulfillment as like their guiding principle i don't it's like it's like this sort of thing of like i'm the fucking smartest guy with all the money it's sort of like and that's is that what you need to feel good okay i don't know you've never heard you say anything about
Starting point is 00:41:42 your own your own needs as a person but that's okay let's we'll map that onto elon and hope that that will solve everything it's like they can see him from a disconnect there's a disconnect between our actual worlds that he participates in and it's like yes in like a character in a movie like oh i want to be like rich like that guy i want to be like have a zillion dollars like this guy although i do think a zillion in the article is like really like i'm not gonna say bad journalism but i'm gonna say like disrespectful to the fact it's just like he has a zillion dollars this isn't a real amount it's fake and it's like no actually he has this amount of money this is a problem he won't let his workers unionize and then you say
Starting point is 00:42:21 like he's like selling off his money and how cool is that like this is actually there's a lot of issues with joking about his money to me um now i don't even remember what i was going to say oh that people like look at him in this vacuum as like in a character in a movie how fun and cool is he but in our actual world that we live in he's actively destroying it and like causing so much environmental damage and could just probably fix climate change with the amount of money he has and there's like a disconnect from like the actual awful actions he's taking and how or they just don't care and it's like okay well if you want to be the next elon musk like you also need a world to exist in to do that so oh I'll buy enough rocket ships to fuck off off of her. That's the difference.
Starting point is 00:43:07 This guy's thinking, man. This shit's a wash. Also, calling him square-jawed and indomitable is straight up how Superman is described. I want to know how many revision passes
Starting point is 00:43:22 he's got on this article. Did he write this? There's no mention of his new haircut in it. And I feel like, I don't know. His fast wave haircut? Yeah, yeah. Very, very aggressive haircut. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:38 All right. Well, real quick, Chris Wallace has left Fox News. It was a surprise announcement at the end of his Sunday show. He's apparently going to CNN Plus, which is CNN's subscription service that will, I think, compete to be the least subscribed to service of any sort that anyone has ever launched, but maybe not. I just don't understand why you would subscribe to that instead of just have CNN on talking about whatever. But anyways, I don't know the behind the scenes machinations. I do think that we are seeing broadly people positioning for the
Starting point is 00:44:19 Fourth Reich that is going to be out in the open, white supremacy and fascism starting around the 2024 election. And, you know, Fox is putting themselves in position to no longer really have that critical kind of news focused side of things and, you know, just be full Tucker Carlson ledge. I guess like his Tuckerucker carlson's patriot purge documentary in quotes it was something that chris wallace had criticized and so that that might have led to this but yeah i mean he's had the unfortunate distinction of being like the one of the few people who like would try to acknowledge like some level of how bad shit was with trump and being objective like should a president do that they're like oh okay you fucking democrat get the
Starting point is 00:45:11 fuck out of here and it's like i know that's a that's a real question and yeah i mean i think it's it's really i think the fact that you have these sort of challengers to the throne in like oan and newsmax that's pulling them even further off the ledge because they're seeing that they were like hemorrhaging viewers to like Newsmax in certain like time slots. And that's only bad for Fox quote unquote news because yeah, like as you see, Tucker Carlson isn't slowing down, Laura Ingraham's not slowing down. It's just getting further and further into their sort of, you know, white dominated fantasy world. Trump administration is like the lesson they will have learned is to just get rid of like anything resembling breaks on the Trump train and just go like full unadulterated like authoritarianism
Starting point is 00:46:14 and fully like trying to make adjustments while he's in office to keep him in office and you know make it so that he can't be voted out. So that's, I think, where we're headed. But hopefully CNN Plus can save us. Maybe CNN Plus will get us our voting rights restored. Right. Right. I definitely think cable news is what's going to save us in 2024. Yes. I'm glad somebody else is saying it because that's what I'm hoping. that's what I'm hoping person of the year. They told us the truth about Joe Biden. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:51 Thank you. Like, Oh God. Focusing on all the right stories all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Time person of the year will be like Donald Trump presents time person of the year. Like,
Starting point is 00:47:02 Oh God. Yeah. So dark. Time person of the year. This year is Donald Trump the year. Oh, God. So dark. Trump presents time person of the year. This year is Donald Trump. Yes. Oh, cool. Who's like the next person of the year?
Starting point is 00:47:11 The next most personist of the year? I mean, it's got to be Ivanka, right? Am I the only one who feels like it's got to be Ivanka? It's a sock full of loose bullets. Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan. Joe Rogan. Oh, man. Yeah, no, it's really dark.
Starting point is 00:47:29 I'm just hoping there's something in that week that can happen that can prevent Trump 2024. And I hope that the Democrats are able to, at some point, do things for people that really affect their day-to-day lives and in a positive way so we can just avoid total fucking utter disaster in two years yeah the data set not looking too good right now but uh we gotta keep our eyes peeled and like yeah i think as more and more i hopefully more and more people actually get in touch with how dire the situation especially as it relates to like election boards like you're already seeing like Georgia they're purging black members
Starting point is 00:48:12 of county election boards it's like it's they're very much fully positioning themselves to be able to flip a switch and just say like nah man the winners whoever the fuck we say it is and you're gonna have to fucking accept that and i think that's i don't think that reality has been communicated properly in the news to people it's just always like wow like
Starting point is 00:48:36 they're doing a lot of news like a voter suppression rather than saying like hold the fuck on this idea that you live in a country where you could go and vote. I mean, even now, I mean, many would argue, you know, what good does it do now? But even further so, we're talking about just absolute vaporware and, you know, even less accountability. Is that a fucking situation you want to be in? I mean, it's reality that I think Americans aren't able to fathom because voting has always been like a thing that's like, yeah, you vote. And then like whoever gets the most votes, you win since you're in school or doing like school elections as a kid. But that's that idea of like, you know, whoever has more better, like more people supporting their ideas wins. That's more very quickly becoming a like an afterthought it totally is an
Starting point is 00:49:27 afterthought and it's also just like our the entire way that electoral politics work is based on the idea that it's not actually the amount of people who want something that wins i mean if that was true hillary would have won right like it's sort of this idea that is part of our system and we've sort of like, I think because of that, there's this acceptance of like, yeah, well, that's not how it works here. Like it's not about the most popular. It's about the system that we have that we don't totally understand. And I think it sort of ingrains this idea in you that you don't have control
Starting point is 00:49:56 over anything. So like, I think, yeah, I don't know. I think it's sort of trickles down and the way that the voting suppression is happening right now, I think you're right where there is a disconnect from like, no, people actually are not going to be able to vote. And like, this is ultimately going to change the fabric of electoral politics in our country. I do think there's a little bit of a disconnect from a lot of people and like myself, including at times included at times, as I've like learned about these issues, I think there is like a sense of, well, how bad can it be? Like we all vote. Right. And yeah, even independent of the suppression and the like, you know, rigging and changing that's happening at the local level there's also the current the democrats who are currently in power seem like they think uh well just that we'll get people to vote more now because they will recognize how bad it can get uh as as a strategy i don't which is so fucked up it's like no they want to recognize that you can help them they want to recognize that when you're in power and when you have all branches of the government there can be actual actions that impact someone's life,
Starting point is 00:51:08 instead of learning that like the Senate parliamentarian is a thing. Like, we've never heard that ever. But now we can't get minimum wage. Sorry, like, that is not a winning strategy for Democrats, they actually have to do something to show people that when they're in power, their lives are improved. And it's just like shocking how little they've been able to achieve. And like, yeah, yeah. Sorry. I won't get too much into it.
Starting point is 00:51:34 I can really go. I think it's a, it's a, I mean, yeah, it's a habit. It's a habit that both parties are unable to break. Right.
Starting point is 00:51:42 Cause the line really does end with, is this going to help people? Well, then we fucking can't do that. Right. Because the line really does end with, is this going to help people? Well, then we fucking can't do that. Right. You know, like that there. And I think the difference being is that, you know, we see all those memes in the version of like,
Starting point is 00:51:53 well, Republicans say what Democrats say. And the Democrats saying the same thing, except for like better fonts and emojis around it. While though the substance of it is the exact same. And yeah, it is disheartening in that sense. And I think that's the sort of it is the exact same. And yeah, I, I,
Starting point is 00:52:07 it is disheartening in that sense. And I think that's the sort of reality too, that I think that it just can't be uttered on TV because it's like, it's too real to say I'm like fucking MSNBC. It's like, well, to be honest, like there's the will to really get things done is about around the same because when it comes to really fighting for things that are going to help people, the will is just not there.
Starting point is 00:52:28 And there are, you know, there are transformational things that were being proposed, but we're already seeing them get diminished and diminished and diminished. And yes, they are. They are still meaningful also because the bar is so low. And I think we there's we really have to, you know, it's hard to, I think, see Americans truly demand to get the things that they want out of their politicians. Because, like, to your point, Ali, like, it's just it becomes a thing where you think, well, what's nothing's happened. So what good is it doing? And then you see how Democrats want to motivate the base. And it's like, I don't know't know man if you guys don't vote some it's gonna get bad well you're you're there though to do that for us where's that where's the fuck is that what are y'all doing the just vote like tweeting just vote whenever
Starting point is 00:53:16 something bad happens it's just not a winning strategy anymore when you guys have power and we did vote and this is what's happening so like you need to change your tune we voted yeah try to act on it like bring it yeah i think bring it home yeah i think it's gonna go real bad the midterms and 2024 i think it's gonna go real fucking bad midterm probably slam age and then they'll panic and then figure it out maybe just make it time but i also see it happening like they double down on the nonsense you're like oh okay well now they'll see now they'll be scared by the fact that we lost the midterms and then they'll really come out it's like oh the republicans are now controlling the house and they stripped everyone of committee assignments so now what right yeah i feel like that's not the thing that's
Starting point is 00:54:05 going to spur everyone to action they might think it is yeah i feel like there's a disrespect of like the people of like well like democrats can't do anything because like cinema and mansion so like sorry like we just need to vote for more democrats whereas like there's this i i don't i mean not everyone in the country is politically informed but I do think a lot of people understand that actually the Democrats could do so much more and are not. And they continue to like just bank on the like, ignorance of the people in a way that like, I find is like really disgusting. like Roe v. Wade also like was disturbing to me for that reason where it's like when you got like there were opportunities to actually like codify this into law that we just like wasn't a priority because abortion rights are how are like a really important political issue for Democrats so I do think there's like a few like gross rhetorical ways that the Democrats are operating right now and the reality is like
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Starting point is 00:59:44 Finally, one of those sweet little stories at a hockey game. Was it like a high school hockey game? It's like a junior league hockey. It wasn't like, you know, it was like a local hockey game. Local hockey game. They did a fun thing where they rolled out a little piece of carpet on the ice, put out $5,000 in ones. Was that in one? Singies.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Yeah, singies. And then had teachers crawl over each other to stuff as many of the singles into their shirt as possible to buy supplies for their school. Because we don't give them money to do that because they're wildly underpaid uh the wild part is so this fun this whole stunt right it was like in the intermission i think between periods or something but it was put on by cu mortgage direct and you're like oh my kind of broke like it already makes you want to puke in your mouth it really they put down the five thousand dollars and like the head of like their development and marketing was telling the local paper that it was quote an awesome group thing to do after a couple of difficult pandemic years for for educators what in the holy fuck are we talking
Starting point is 01:01:03 about here oh man i like i feel like you literally just channeled whoever that person is because it's an awesome group thing to do you know like yes someone who like you know they see a homeless person they turn their radio up and look like the other direction immediately because they can't like they can't fathom the fact that someone could be suffering that's the same mentality. I feel if someone was like, this is awesome, dude. We take these destitute teachers. We literally cut out like exacto knife out a piece of cardboard like we're getting rid of a carpet, like we're getting rid of a body and have them scramble for dollar bills on it for to educate our kids.
Starting point is 01:01:41 And, you know, normally this would be a story where we've seen these stories in the past, right? Where there'll be one about like a teacher on a plane who was sitting next to someone who's like talked about how difficult it was. And then they started to kick like a GoFundMe or something and like got a teacher $20,000. People like, oh my God, that's so great. It's such a feel good story. Rather than like we're failing educators and our education system has just been systematically gutted that's what is happening not cu mortgage direct is like being making it fucking rain because they're like the you know benevolent donate or whatever so all that to say that the reactions normally have been like oh uh but the
Starting point is 01:02:18 reactions to this clip when it went viral most people and i think this is where you're starting to see that sort of shift that's come along with, I think, increased sort of class awareness and just sort of the difficulty of life in America, where most people were starting to be on the more confused or disgusted end of the spectrum. Being like, dude, what the fuck? Like, isn't that money like the government
Starting point is 01:02:41 should be giving them? To fucking be able to pay for trash bags or you know chalk and i think a lot of people also noted that you know south dakota is only second to mississippi i believe for like lowest pay for teachers and on top of that they're sitting on hundreds of millions of unspent covid relief funds that you know you could probably funnel some of that into education since that's a critical piece of infrastructure for your state to have people educated and teachers be safe. But I think the one hope is that the coverage of this moment wasn't like, oh, wow, like they look like they had a good time. It was more like,
Starting point is 01:03:17 Right. Oh, no. It's, wow. It's such a beautiful shift, though. I worked as a reporter for buzzfeed for two years in my early 20s and we covered stories like this like often and like it was accepted of like how wonderful is this everyone came together to like save this to buy this girl insulin and it's like right hold on like yeah actually this is deeply, deeply fucked. And this story, like seeing the reaction to it is at least a little bit of an inspiring shift where
Starting point is 01:03:53 it's like, okay, these teachers are deeply underfunded. This more throwing $5,000 on the floor and say fight for it is ultimately not a nice awesome thing to do for teachers and so seeing that shift i think is really cool and i think it sort of speaks to what we were talking about earlier where it's like a big part of the political maneuverings are to convince people that like sorry this is just how much money someone in this job makes like sorry like you just don't get any of these rights this is just how it is like you're just gonna get paid this much forever and there it does take a cultural shift to be like wait a minute like this is actually way too little money to make like this is not what a minimum wage should be like this is actually not the standard of living that i accept and it is cool to see workers
Starting point is 01:04:37 and like people who are like wage earners have that shift of like hold on a second like this is not the way that things have to work just because they've been the accepted way of the past yeah and i think it also goes back to even just sort of how like why politicians are even like seem worse now because they're they've been so used to this pattern of just saying nonsense and like most people being so disconnected from like what the real like reality of inequality is that now with people having more awareness around it and you're seeing it with around them like not being able to be like wait so like are people really withholding their labor because they realize they can get more or deserve more and then like not knowing how to message shit around like not shaming companies for raising
Starting point is 01:05:20 like their wages and but saying nothing when they're raising their prices to basically offset any little bit of wage increase that's happened and not treating the situation like that and people like what's going on with all this like well a lot of places are raising their prices as a way to recoup the money from the little bit of profit that was shaved off from paying more wages and not realizing that i think for especially if you're a politician or in a leadership role where you're very much insulated from what it means to like just be, you know, having to pay your bills and not having like excess cash every month that you can sock away into savings, that there's a new there's a new reality that many people are acknowledging that they are not.
Starting point is 01:06:04 And that's I think there's a lot of that many people are acknowledging that they are not and that they think there's a lot of that friction occurring now too of just the sort of disconnect between the two is there anything in place though for like so the people who respond to this and are like that's fucking gross and looks like a scene from a like sci-fi dystopia i do feel like anyone who was writing sci-fi dystopia like about the early 2000s probably was like fuck this is a great scene i should have i should have written this but like is there anything for them to do like who where does that go other than like disapproval on social media you know i i mean i think that's the first step right it's like it's like if you're if you have an issue with yourself and you're you know going through therapy or something
Starting point is 01:06:51 you don't solve it in the first session you have to bring awareness to something first and you have to keep observing it to be able to really understand it and i think more and more people are having that moment where the awareness is coming to a lot of this stuff. And it's not just like, Oh my God, that's great. Like this anonymous donor canceled this school's lunch debt. You're like fucking lunch debt. What does that mean?
Starting point is 01:07:13 Oh yeah. These kids owed a lot of money cause they had to eat or some shit. Yeah. And that ain't our problem. Like I think people are starting to like sort of these things aren't, these don't feel normal anymore. It feels, I think the cruelty of it all is becoming more and more transparent and visible to people.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Yeah. And I do think that is a really meaningful shift of rejection of that narrative and demanding more from your politicians. like voting on policy and like actually paying attention to these issues of like funding or for schools or, you know, like, or if it's just, you know, rejecting political narratives, like, I don't know, I do think it is an important place to start. And it's like, you can always call your politicians, you can always like donate to a GoFundMe, but like, ultimately, nothing to me is more important than like a collective mindset mindset shift of understanding that our government is supposed to take care of us that is the point of a government is to otherwise why would we have one right like it is meant to care for the citizens yeah right yeah
Starting point is 01:08:16 absolutely bootstraps i just wish america and like the american government and the democratic party was better at if the like cultural tone that we're reading and the response to this clip was monetizable, you would have companies rushing in to try and find a way to monetize it. But I don't feel like there is that same sort of instinct to coordinate and organize around things that aren't monetizable in America. Yeah. Which is where I get worried. Yeah. And I think what I think what's powerful, too, is like the image itself.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Most people just saw it for what it was like. Hold on. Hold on. You're putting a bunch of cash on a rug, and you're making teachers, like, fucking scramble for it in order to fund their, like, educational endeavors? With bike helmets on so that as they, like, crash into each other. Well, it's like hockey, dude, to be honest. It's more of an aesthetic choice.
Starting point is 01:09:18 It's pretty safe. We just thought it was an awesome group thing to do, you know? It would be really cool to watch these teachers just sort of demonstrate physically how desperate they are to provide for their students. to do you know it'd be really cool to watch these teachers just sort of demonstrate physically how desperate they are to provide for their students i will say miles the there is what one of the people has a little like hat next to them which suggests to me that they walked across the ice with the hat on got the hockey helmet and put the hockey helmet on as the like grab for cash started because it was an attempt to not just like knock each other out as they were going for the money but yeah i mean i guess it is a hockey helmet on a hockey
Starting point is 01:09:53 rink but i also feel like it's like and man they're gonna be so wild to try and get funding for markers that they're gonna like there's damage that could be done. Right. At the end of the day, this is all money that should be available to the people who are educating the future of the earth. But again, we also see what happens when with a lack of good education and not challenging students and being able to develop critical thinking skills, because you might just accept the first thing you hear that a friend says and be like, yeah, that's the truth, man. I think the vaccine is actually causing these mutations. You're like, huh? Well, Ali, it's been such a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Oh, thank you so much. Where can people find you and follow you? I'm on Instagram as TheRealAliVingiano and Twitter, which I've tried to stay off of, but I do struggle with it. I'm just AliVingiano on Twitter. And I'm also, the movie The End of Us just came out on December 7th on demand. So you can stream it on Amazon or
Starting point is 01:10:59 iTunes. And yeah, I star in that. So that's where you can find me. Yeah. Yeah. Is there a tweet or something on Instagram or social media that you have been enjoying? Oh, well, I picked a tweet. So I don't know if you guys have already discussed this Chasten Buttigieg tweet, but I had to think I had to go to that. We have not. I don't even know what it is. had to go to that i we have not i don't even know what it is okay so chasten oh no he he posted it on his story but i found it on twitter and it's a it's a screenshot of his student loan payment it's a screenshot from i guess i don't know who the government's student the people who have his loans that says chasten your student loan payments restart after January 31st, 2022. You'll soon receive a bill from your student loan service. And he posted it, LOL, no thank you. Merry Christmas next. And it's just such a beautiful tweet to me. You know, it is a problem. I think that Joe Biden is now we all have to start paying our loans again. You know,
Starting point is 01:12:03 we're still in this pandemic. And it's just not the best electoral strategy, I would say, but there's also what else is he supposed to do? Although he did say he'd cancel some student debt. So it's just, and you know, and that would be one thing he could do, but Chastin Buttigieg publicly posting this, whether or not he has awareness of what exactly he did,
Starting point is 01:12:21 I'm not sure, but either way, I think it's beautiful. Yeah, yeah. has awareness of what exactly he did i'm not sure but either way i think it's beautiful yeah yeah is pete like i feel like people are starting to think pete budaj is like the answer to the like that he's gonna step in and be the democratic candidate that people can elect because biden and harris are not it i don't know god well only we can be so lucky yeah i mean he he at least people voted for him like you know at least it seems like there was some response to him so i mean yes no i i am i do not i'm not here supporting pete budaj that's not why i picked this tweet he's not for me he's not it he is not it but at least at least some people voted for him. Whereas
Starting point is 01:13:05 Kamala, although I understand why she was picked as vice president, did really struggle to get votes. I think it's a harder sell for president. But hopefully someone else will come through. I really
Starting point is 01:13:20 don't want to be out here standing people to judge. I don't know what it out here standing people to judge. Yes. I don't know what it's going to take, honestly, because like you'd have to abandon all of the accepted wisdom of the Democratic Party to like actually do something that is what we're talking about to help people, you know, to put someone out there who's not trying to constantly figure out like a triangulation, but just speak very directly about the problems that exist and not shy away from them. Because I think that's another issue that American politicians have is like, don't diagnose the problem too deep because then you sound like you hate America. Like if we need people with the skills to be able to communicate that there are problems
Starting point is 01:13:58 that can be solved rather than like you hate America because you're pointing stuff out. Yeah. It is so true that anytime you try to help people, it's well you hate you hate it you hate our country and it's like i wish it could be reframed a little bit of like no i love the people here so i want to try to do something that actually benefits their lives so much so that i acknowledge the need for something quite drastic right for for people to have a better lived outcomes people should have teeth when they're on medicare and it's real my parents just had dental surgery and it was like oh it was like almost like ten thousand dollars and like's, they don't, it wasn't on their healthcare.
Starting point is 01:14:45 And it's like fucking insane that that's just like, you know, a reality. Miles, where can people find you and follow you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, you can find me on Twitter and Instagram at miles of gray and also the other pod for 20 day fiance with Sophie Alexandra. Where we talk about our favorite 90 day fiance off that loud? OK, now some tweets that I like. First one is from at silly asshole tweeted. Please don't eat edibles while watching Law and Order.
Starting point is 01:15:13 I thought I was the damn suspect. OK, great. Do you know if that's if that's how you react? Yeah, maybe don't watch an intense show like that. And one more from Ryan Aguirre at Aguirre Ryan tweeted, why did we need to make West Side Story? Like, bitch, do you know how many times I've watched Batman's parents die?
Starting point is 01:15:34 So, yeah. Let them remake West Side Story. Shit. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A couple tweets I've been enjoying. Some guy named Andy Richter tweeted, every year when I get the Christmas lights out of the garage, I'm struck by how little respect last year's me has for this year's me.
Starting point is 01:15:54 I feel that. I feel that. I'm so rude. I'm so fucking rude. Snarled like rat king of Christmas lights. And I also like have a higher respect for my ability to like make sense of it then like i sometimes do this thing where i'll like tie ribbon like i'll do a small roll tie ribbon around that do a small roll tie ribbon around that but
Starting point is 01:16:18 it's still a complete fucking mess and the ribbon never lasts and it's just like oh that's so optimistic and then jack crosby tweeted maybe a controversial take but car headlights are too bright these days every single suv is equipped with like military grade halogen retina destroyers jeep grand cherokee driving around with the 911 memorial spotlights on the front. Lighthouse-ass Chevy Tahoes grow up. I just feel that as an old. So deeply, I feel that. Half the time, I'm always like, yo, this asshole got their high beams on.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Same. And like, when I'm in my rear view, and I'm like, I don't know. I think it's just all these fucking super hyper white lights that are coming out. Yeah, and then you flick your high beams at them, and then they flick theirs at you. And you're like, oh shit.
Starting point is 01:17:08 You're like, those weren't the high beams. And your hat spins around on your head. Yeah, you get like an instant tan. Like, what the fuck? You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com,
Starting point is 01:17:25 where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Myles, what song do we think people might enjoy? Oh, man. Okay, so I'm going more background music. I love BGM background music. It's just a good wallpaper for your home. The
Starting point is 01:17:47 music is relaxing. It's not complex enough that it's distracting. And I just want to go out from this is a different BGM artist on Spotify called Cafe Music BGM Channel. Okay. And this is from the album Christmas Jazz. And this is the track the old the all-time favorite silent night but the old jazz background music version and i know you people like well this is fucking weird compared to most of the stuff i recommend i'm telling you yeah you keep background music at a low hum in your house it does some shit it helps kind of alleviate the environment it doesn't always have to be music you love because I find that to be really distracting sometimes. Like
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