The Daily Zeitgeist - Embiid Reigns Supreme with Sean Keane

Episode Date: November 17, 2022

The guys were pleased to be joined by comedian and co-host of the Roundball Rock Podcast, Sean Keane on the latest episode. The trio discussed Embiid’s recent dominance, Portland and Utah continuing... to surprise and plenty more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:43 Joel Embiid, ever heard of him? Famous Arsenal fan and happens to play basketball for the Philadelphia 76ers. Most famously. Most famously. Also, rookie Benedict Matherin looks so impressive and the Nets may have figured some things out over on the defensive end of the court over there. We'll get into all of that and more with comedian and co-host of the round ball rock podcast sean keen on today's episode i am miles gray and i'm jack o'brien and this is miles and jack got mad with these oh you beat me it's not a race it's not a race but guess what that time it was and you admit it i win um sean keen welcome welcome to miles and jack on bad boosties man thanks for
Starting point is 00:02:28 coming on hey thanks for having me on faz anytime anytime anytime uh we were talking before we were trying to dial dial in your fandom lock it in you said you're a warriors fan who has transcended into general fandom i always like when people take this route. Yeah, it's because if you were a Golden State Warriors fan between 1993 and 2013,
Starting point is 00:02:57 you kind of had to find someone else to pull for when April 15th happened and the Warriors season ended. You can only think about which failed draft pick you were going to get for so long. So you just kind of had to watch
Starting point is 00:03:12 basketball in general. I mean, I was a big Chris Gatling fan myself, so I remember those years very fondly. Yeah, the Warriors used to have Marv Albert's little brother, Steve, and he would always awkwardly call him the energizer and the nickname never ever caught on just people like hey it's
Starting point is 00:03:33 the gatling gun like that yeah there's a big one just sitting there for you steve right but hey man you know probably all about gun control and decided to just go with some yeah put that branding yeah so golden state came through and turned things around and what were you sort of on board for the for the rise and was it was that particularly fun for you as a as a fan from way back did you get annoyed by the golden state fans as well where where were you at i mean the individual thing that bothers me the most is obviously the fan base is just insane but i really hate that there's so many venture capital tech bro dude who wear super crisp button down shirts to games like they don't know there's gonna be a t-shirt on the seat. And then you just got these guys like awkwardly trying to squeeze into,
Starting point is 00:04:26 you know, these like $3 t-shirts and like, you know, what's going to happen. You don't have to wear a crisp shirt to the game. Like wear a t-shirt, buddy. My favorite is the tech guy who last second bought a Jersey to put over his
Starting point is 00:04:42 button up shirt. Oh, better put one of these on when i go in it's like fam if you would have pulled up in your jersey appropriate attire rather than clearly looking like and i put this fan smock over my dress wear yeah it's completely stiff uh yeah oh the tags are still on yeah can you get that for me thanks i gotta can i get this one with extra starch actually i'm gonna be putting a t-shirt on over it. I'm sorry, who's Curie?
Starting point is 00:05:09 What? 30? That seems like a weird number to have. All right, cool. But Jack, you want to talk about the Sixers a little bit? I do, Miles. Over the last seven? Yeah, so Harden went down with an injury. I don't know if it fully coincided, but the Sixers have over the last seven looked like Sixers of old or at least at the beginning of last season with everything running through Embiid and Embiid doing quite a bit with that. I don't know if you saw, he played against the Utah Jazz and hung 59 points
Starting point is 00:05:46 on them. 11 boards, 8 assists, 7 blocks. Is that right? In a single game? First player with 50+, 10+, 5+, and plus 5 blocks since blocks became official in
Starting point is 00:06:02 1973-74. So, you know. So, we say he put in a bit of a shift, huh? Mm-hmm. In that one? Okay, okay. And he was blocking shots at the end of that game, too. It was like, it wasn't cheap.
Starting point is 00:06:14 There were five in the fourth quarter in that one. Yeah, man. He looks great. His turnaround is super locked in. I was saying to Jabari before, like, it's not like he's added any new move this season, but just the stuff that he does that is unguardable seems like he just has them really locked in,
Starting point is 00:06:33 which I think is good for him and the Philadelphia 76ers. He also, against the Hawks, which they lost against the Hawks, but he put up 42-10-6. And Miles, you pulled this stat that Philly has outscored its opponents by 57 points in Embiid's 108 minutes and has been outscored by 47 points in his 36 minutes on the bench.
Starting point is 00:06:55 Uh-oh! That's a big... A lot of mileage on there. Yeah. This was my first time getting to see the Jazz in their full glory. I'm sure Jazz fans aren't going to be psyched that we're judging them based on a loss but they are formidable they are yeah tough man they uh laurie marketing hitting just everything that he puts up he's got like a little hitch in
Starting point is 00:07:20 his shot he reminded me of billy from white men can't jump a little bit yeah but just seven footer with super high release and it doesn't seem to matter if anybody's on him i'm just gonna say utah's been waiting for that type of player since gordon hayward left for sure right the one that was promised yeah and he has the one was promised is here it's just wild too to watch now how like every team's like oh okay so now we got to address lori markinan and that's part of the plans now and like it's i'm wondering how much they benefited we're talking about this a little bit before we started recording from like the perception of like man don't worry about them we're gonna roll right through them like we can show up 10 minutes late to this one and still be fine and like sort of having a reconciliation of like well this is what we thought we were up against versus them really playing now or you think a lot a lot of teams
Starting point is 00:08:14 were prepared and we're just kind of seeing like i'm saying like is there are they benefiting a little bit from a like a slept on maybe yeah they're being slept on not to take anything away because they're clearly still like they're being slept on not to take anything away because they're clearly still like they're being pretty consistent but i'm wondering if how much of that is fed into the whole thing because going into this season we're like good night utah i mean maybe at the beginning of the season but at this point i don't i don't think anybody i mean they're third in the west and yeah their point differential is second best in the west like they're they're pretty impossible to doubt at this point.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I mean, sure, sure, sure. I mean, there's gotta be something not great about them. Right. And I can't be saying that as a salty Laker fan,
Starting point is 00:08:52 I just can't believe what I'm seeing right now. I just, I just think there's something else going on, but no, it's, it's nice to see the big fin doing it. I really think there, there's just such a vibes upgrade from not having your two best
Starting point is 00:09:06 players just loathe each other the way they did last year right and they were really not good after maybe like january last year like they started very fast and then they stunk and it really didn't look like they were tanking but they never got to the point where they got rid of the useful player. Yeah. You know, like everybody that got back in the Gobert trade was a real NBA role player. And suddenly they had seven of them, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:09:34 Yeah. I mean, it does raise the question. I do. I think a lot of people assumed heading into the season, their overall strategy for the longterm, you know, strength of their squadron was going to be to tank
Starting point is 00:09:46 it try and get when banyama and now i i feel like they've crossed the point of untank ability at this point right like oh yeah they're too good but yeah i mean i do think that we're seeing some sort of sea change in the overall strategy of the league. And like you just pointed out, and Jabari was like reiterating, it was like all these rotational guys who are kind of plug and play and they just are making it work by being really great shooters and just like all playing unselfishly.
Starting point is 00:10:18 And we're, I don't know, something just feels different about the NBA this season, which is a very dumb take for our dumb podcast but it just feels like we we used to have these gravitational like stars who all the winds just kind of accumulated around and we still definitely have that but we're also seeing a lot of things work that hadn't hadn't really worked before just all all bets are off, I feel like. Yeah. And youth helps. The fresh legs seem to be helping. Yeah, and also just having a 24-year-old playing
Starting point is 00:10:51 instead of a 21-year-old. You know, like those teams that aren't quite tearing it down all the way makes a big difference. Yeah, yeah. The Nets are also, so I mean, we'll lump them in with the sixers but they started showing some signs of life uh after the steve nash coaching change and kairi's removal from the lineup
Starting point is 00:11:12 obviously um but they hadn't given up 100 points over that stretch prior to sunday's loss to uh somebody i forget who it was but um the la la leakers oh the lakers yeah ad looking i mean there are signs of life there too yes that's what we need we just if like i was saying i think in one of our pre-production meetings i was like if lebron can just take him aside and be like look man i'm nearing i'm going towards the light and it's okay if you take up and play to the best of your abilities i will not take offense to it in fact it is vital for this team that you play out of your mind and he did say what did he say he saw like an nfl game where like aaron rogers threw a touchdown pass and he's
Starting point is 00:12:05 like i realized i had a lot of people counting on me so i came out strong in that game i was like look wherever you get this but please please get it somewhere he's a green bay packers fan yeah the packers had a unexpected upset win over the cowboys and yeah that's that's what it took um yeah he's he's had a lot of years where he's before the season announced that he was going to turn over the reins to someone else like way back in the kairi days he was like oh it's kairi's show and this is the first time where i think lebron really believes it and it's like it's honestly it's got to be someone else's show right now i can't do this how how long do I have to carry?
Starting point is 00:12:46 I'm carrying this 20 years. Like, can I just be a playmaker for a couple months? Yeah. Right. Yeah. But I mean, just back,
Starting point is 00:12:55 back to the Nets defense. Well, first of all, Curry's returning to form, but yeah, Nick Claxton, there was an amazing block that I think we have a clip of, of him blocking Paul George at the rim. Here we go. 14 rebounds.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Paul George gets denied. Claxton the block. It lasted George. And Durant's like all bought in on the defensive end. Durant's like, I don't know man. I really love that guy. He's good, huh? He's so good
Starting point is 00:13:24 and he's such a great scorer. Something about this guy. But he also is just bought in and really cares about winning and hooping, as he calls it. There was an awesome sequence. They lost to the Mavs, but in the third quarter, he just decided he was going to shut down Luka. And he just kind of did for 12 minutes. and yeah right just kind of did for 12 minutes it was like oh i guess when this guy knows his job is this he can uh he's still seven feet tall and really really smart about basketball yeah because like since kairi hasn't been on the roster they're first in what defensive rating and net rating yeah
Starting point is 00:13:57 and how i mean like how much of it because a lot of people were like oh this you know when kairi's not on the team like sometimes the teams will get a nice bump in confidence or they're playing better? Or is it that Jacques Vaughn is just coming up with some nice defensive schemes as well? And what's the balance you think there? You know, I think Kyrie is maybe not the strongest and most intense defender. But sometimes when you have those multi-star arrangements,
Starting point is 00:14:24 it doesn't work as well when both guys don't completely buy in because kevin durant's kind of enough of an offense by himself kevin durant and a bunch of guys who play hard defense and can make threes that's a pretty good you know you kind of want kairi for backup when durant's not. He does have to score 35 every game, but I think it's more just that they've got guys with defensive mentalities, and this is sad to say, but Ben Simmons
Starting point is 00:14:53 keeps getting in foul trouble, so he's not on the court that much. I think he'll probably get back. He's just really rusty. Yeah. AD in that Lakers win, by the way, had 10 offensive boards uh which is just kind of like i don't know the last time the nets had nine as a team and currently just under 69 of his points are coming from within the paint and his previous career high was 65 as a rookie so i mean he's
Starting point is 00:15:21 getting in there he's getting his hands dirty i i keep waiting for the Lakers to just, like, go on a tear. And maybe I will keep waiting, but I'd like to see it. Yeah. I hope it. I'd like to believe that. I, too, am waiting for this tear you speak of. I really talk myself into Dennis Schroeder and Thomas Bryant really changing things
Starting point is 00:15:45 when they come back this week. Yeah. Just because it's like, it's not that those guys are awesome or anything. It's that they're basically knocking a G leaguer out of the rotation when they come back. Right. And that's like,
Starting point is 00:15:57 Dick Thomas Bryant's skill is that he's not Damien Jones, you know, like he's like, they're just adding more grown-up to the team. Added stability. They just shouldn't be that bad. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:11 I think there's some continued soul-searching will occur. Eventually, we'll figure it out. Let's talk real briefly about our underrated performers of the week. We've got a handful of really good candidates. People who are balling out and maybe
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Starting point is 00:16:43 eight-team league of us old pals. But yeah, Giannis is out. So Javon Carter put up career-high 36, grabbed 12 boards and a double OT win over the Thunder. Probably not a lot of people had that. Emmanuel
Starting point is 00:16:59 quickly, 24 points, 5 assists, 3 steals off the bench in a game against OKC. Maybe be targeting OKC. I don't know. Step one, are y'all playing OKC tonight? OK. Right. But finally, somebody that we'll talk about a little more when we come back, Benedict
Starting point is 00:17:16 Mathurin put up 30 points, including 6 of 9 from deep in 25 minutes off the bench against the Nuggets. This rookie who a lot of people had pegged for rookie of the year. It seems like he's paying off on that promise. So yeah, we can talk a little bit more about that. B-Math.
Starting point is 00:17:35 It's funny to see they quickly got to finally play just because the Knicks gave up so many points in that game. I think they gave up 43 points at the second and third quarter. And eventually Thibodeau was just like, I'm just not bringing these starters back in. RJ Barrett's just got to sit on the bench. And then all the Knicks fans are excited because they're like, oh, Thibodeau, he's going to play these young guys finally.
Starting point is 00:18:00 He's going to bench Evan Fournier and play these these hopeful young guys and it was made really just mad i don't think it indicated any kind of shame yeah they gave up 145 points in that game which not great all right should we take a quick break and then come back and talk about benny math yeah benny math Vinnie Maths. Wake up with football every morning and listen to my new podcast, NFL Daily with Greg Rosenthal. Five days a week, you'll get all the latest news, previews, recaps, and analysis delivered straight to your podcast feed by the time you get your coffee.
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Starting point is 00:21:45 There's a great sequence where Halliburton comes down, throws an oop to Mathurin. Mathurin blocks a shot at the other end and then hits Halliburton for a deep tray. Here we go. There it is. There's something about his leap on that alley-oop that is just like he gets up so quickly and effortlessly.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Oh, it's just fizzing around. The ball's just fizzing around out there for the Pacers. Making blocks. Halliburton to Matherin. Matherin to Halliburton. Oh, man. There's some guys on that team I'd like to see in different uniforms. But they look great.
Starting point is 00:22:35 What are you talking about? Nothing. I'm not talking about anything. I love Benedict Matherin. Because Halliburton also is zero, right? Is that his number? Is he double zero? No, because Matherin is double zero, right? Oh, Halliburton's zero., right? Is that his number? Is he double zero? No, because Matherin is double zero, right?
Starting point is 00:22:47 Oh, Halliburton's zero. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And I'm always like, whenever I see that, I'm always like, I don't know why I get the biggest kick out of seeing zero and double zero
Starting point is 00:22:56 on the court, but I do. It's the small things for me. He's shooting top five in the league of people taking six or more threes a game the list is cuerta is shooting 50 while taking six or more threes a game michael porter jr 46 spencer dimwitty uh 46 benedict matherin i've been calling him matherin uh for some reason i think it's look it's a grab bag of pronunciations.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I lived in Mass when one of my best friends was from Methuen. That's how it got stuck in my head. Matherin, 45. And then Desmond Bain. The Bain train, 45. We'll give Bain... Bain just went down with a couple-week injury.
Starting point is 00:23:43 His injury's going to keep him out for a couple weeks. It's a week injury, but we got to talk about him because that backcourt is devastation. I feel bad. I mean, just when like Triple J is coming back, then Desmond Bain goes out. And I'm just like, oh, come on now. I want to see it all.
Starting point is 00:24:03 I want to see them with all the shiny things playing together. Because, yeah, man, he is playing incredibly. 25-5-5, Jaws putting up almost 30. Yeah, they're good. They're good. What do you think of that? They built a dynasty. They built a dynasty.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Dylan Brooks was right. They got a dynasty there, yeah. Dylan Brooks was right I love that they made such a weird move this year when it was they basically had a 55 win team last year and everyone kind of
Starting point is 00:24:37 talked about like oh yeah they could pull their assets together and make a move for a veteran and they're like no four rookies the widest rookies we can find. We're just adding a bunch of beef to this roster basically. That seems like their MO is
Starting point is 00:24:53 just big, beefy dudes who can shoot and dribble. They're going to draft for mass. That's really the strategy you hear coming out of a draft. I feel like Memphis would have braced that too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:07 We just want bodies bouncing off of it. They remain super exciting. Portland looks super exciting. The Celtics, I gotta give it to them. I think they're now atop the east
Starting point is 00:25:28 with janice going down they're 11 and 3 as of this recording and marcus smart just keeps like he he seems to i i i don't think i've ever heard somebody talk about somebody being really good at saves like saving the ball as it's going out of bounds and like turning it into just a sick pass that is like leads directly to an open look right but he had a couple against Detroit one was like a
Starting point is 00:25:55 he's falling like he's literally horizontal to the court falling out of bounds and throws a bounce pass between the defenders legs that's like also an outlet pass somehow. It's wild. It's like disorienting to defend because like on the business, like,
Starting point is 00:26:12 man, this dude is about to fall out of bounds. And then last gasp, he's like, yeah, it's disorienting to watch. Like, I almost don't know what's happening as he does it.
Starting point is 00:26:21 The Celtics got really like, it was like the celtics are going to be what they are and they'll probably be good but they were boring in the offseason to talk about and it's like actually their two best players got noticeably better since yeah since they were in the finals last year they're impossible to play they have the best offense in the league and last year they had the best defense in the league and last year they had the best defense in the league and feel like they could turn that back on whenever they want um so that's a little terrifying yeah to to be in the east with them um yeah it just i was did you see that like that tech that
Starting point is 00:27:00 tatum got for clapping like last night no it was such a weak tech they like it they got overturned the next day but i was just sort of like i was watching like wow they that did not seem like the the kind of tech i would normally be seeing uh given but okay yeah because i'm glad you can see guys getting text for clapping but he literally started one time. He did like a golly clap. Yeah, yeah. It was like fiddle sticks. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he wasn't really even near the ref either. It just seemed like.
Starting point is 00:27:34 It also wasn't like he was complaining about. It was like a pretty obvious call. He wasn't really complaining about the call. He was more like, come on, Jason. You're better than that. He's like, hey, uh-uh than that team up team up for that tatum is now the uh vegas favorite for mvp for mvp i mean yeah deservedly so because they look like they might have the best record in the league when it's all said and done at this early stage obviously but um and he's playing like top three best
Starting point is 00:28:05 in the league. What's he averaging? He's like in the 30s, I think, still. But yeah, I mean, they're scary. He also really wants to win MVP, too. That's the difference between Giannis is going to rest and things like that.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Tatum, it feels like, just really has to improve on this good team. Right. Yeah. Every night, it feels like, just really has some groove on this good team. Yeah. Like, every night he's like, I got boxes to tick, man. Let me get in there. 31.9 is what Tatum's averaging. And he's also one of the best wing defenders in the league.
Starting point is 00:28:37 I would wager, just because the league is honoring Bill Russell, it reminds me of when Kobe passed. I feel like there may be a bit of an x factor to how like a team plays when you're like you know what like let's let's do something for the for the franchise here but not to say that that's the only thing that will motivate but i feel like that feels like a little bit of added uh sauce in the mix too for sure yeah yeah Miami, there's been some regression to the mean
Starting point is 00:29:06 in terms of Boston continues to win. San Antonio after a hot start has kind of regressed to, they're still very good. They're still looking better than I think a lot of people expected, but they've kind of regressed down to where
Starting point is 00:29:22 people might have thought they would end up. Miami just tore off three wins in a row. Jimmy Butler with a big defensive play on Booker. That block was so satisfying to watch. Squares up on Jimmy. So close. Look how close he is oh no
Starting point is 00:29:54 yeah that was my goodness that is some sticky that's some you're glued on at that point like it looked like they were doing like the lombada at a certain point because they're hip they were like hip to hip almost when he went up for that shot yeah it was a you know booker's been eating off of that move just like you know people guard him closely because he's a great three-point shooter go one quick step and then you know pull up jumper he's a great mid-range shooter as well and jimmy butler
Starting point is 00:30:26 it's to the point that the second booker leaves the floor with the shot he's already kind of giving up on it because butler's like so all over him he's like oh this is getting blocked all right so i'm gonna shoot this in such a way that i'll get the rebound off the block because yeah yeah well it also felt like the block almost broke his brain because he they had a timeout and it kind of looked like they had to set up another another shot there but he was almost just
Starting point is 00:30:53 like panicked and Butler chased him into another terrible shot of the buzzer yeah I mean it's it's interesting when you see those guys kind of break down a little bit right there. Because I'd imagine that block just completely just was like, well, that completely destroyed. I don't even know where to go from here because I was not expecting to be absolutely stuffed crust pizza by Jimmy Butler.
Starting point is 00:31:17 But there he goes. It's that preseason wig. That's what I'm saying. It's a preseason wig. He's wigging out. Speaking of just staying icy icy the end of the game uh we're starting to see or at least we're really starting to appreciate the at the death of a game just some trash talking to a free throw shooter just to say hey you know come on you don't gotta
Starting point is 00:31:36 make these yeah let's get out of here this is our uh this is our dumb pitch to the NBA for the week. Yeah. And I think it's our dumbest and best yet. So this is based on Embiid talking trash to Laurie Markkinen. Most recently, yeah. And Dame to Aiton. Really, it's based on Dame to Aiton in one of the first games of the season. Do you want to play the clip? Yeah, let's play the clip. Okay, so the original one this season was Dame Lillard getting in DeAndre Aiton's ear,
Starting point is 00:32:05 just basically saying, you don't want to take these shots. And, you know, it didn't seem like Ayton did. So at the end of the game, he was asked, well, so what exactly did you say? Because anybody who saw the broadcast were like, you were in his ear. What was going on there? And this is what Damien said. I only asked him. I said, have you ever been in a situation before?
Starting point is 00:32:30 Because it's not easy. You know, when you have to make the free throws that's not an easy situation to be in because it's the whole game doesn't come down to one possession you know it's a lot of things that happen but in a way you know you're looking at it like this is a chance to tie the game so I just asked him like I just wanted him to think about it a little bit like you know have you ever been in this situation and he ignored me and when he ignored me i was like you know i'm pretty sure he's thinking about it like these these big free throws there were also reports that he also mentioned something about like do you think your team wants you in this situation oh my god right which you think they trust you kind of think whoa next level that's brutal because the implication is also kind of like you think your team wants you they
Starting point is 00:33:11 didn't even offer you a contract yeah it's like the nba equivalent was like you know you're adopted right like what like why are you saying that right now and going from that like this and the latest one was joellen bead who I think had a much nicer version of getting in someone's head before crucial free throws. I don't know if we have audio of it, but in the final stretch of the game, Embiid did his thing, looked real confused. And it looks like he's saying,
Starting point is 00:33:37 hey, do you know how to get to the steak shop? Can we get out of here? You mind if we get out of here real quick? And it turns out he said, hey, I got to get home to put my son Arthur to bed because he has a strict bedtime. Laurie Markkinen ended up obliging and missing those two free throws. And it was funny because afterwards we were like, but the thing is, Joel lied. His son doesn't have a strict bed. So that second layer of commentary from people,'m like okay that's fine that doesn't
Starting point is 00:34:06 seem the most deceptive part he just did a nice way of being like appealing to maybe his sensibilities as a father or someone like like mark and him was gonna hear that and be like he lied to me i take it back um wait you don't even have a son? No. That's kind of what it felt like. But yeah, so here's our pitch, Jack. What do we think? How are we turning this up? Each team gets one moment, like every week. Maybe it's every month if they don't love the idea.
Starting point is 00:34:36 But those are our terms. It can be somewhere between once a week, once a month. Each team gets one moment where they get to take the mic for the stadium the pa and talk trash to a player for 15 seconds on the pa presumably ahead of some big free throws or or just whenever but you you almost like start having a position on your roster for whoever is the best at like getting inside people's head yeah yeah like you're doing oppo research and you're like oh laurie marketing i got some hold on let me go on my file oh oh say the name rachel to him over and over say rachel thinks you won't make these uh it's based on some research
Starting point is 00:35:16 from past failed relationships or like or doing something more spectacular like before the free throws like the stadium lights go black spotlight on one seat and it's like the person like someone from this player's history personal history that they cannot believe is there it's like and here's your fifth grade bully mark and it's like what's up man what's up stinkhead still doing good man he's like what and then doing good i don't know your nose yeah just light stuff we don't have to get fully toxic but it's those subtle things i mean yeah what other ways you think sean are good just to throw someone off like efficiently at the last minute what what kind of what kind of strategies would you uh deploy you know i think i think like the deep
Starting point is 00:36:02 although research is good but it doesn't even have to necessarily be real as much as it's just shocking so i had a friend who uh did a roast battle and he's a he's a real good roaster and then a guy went up there and just started doing jokes about how his wife was barren and couldn't conceive children which was not true but it it disturbed him so much that he was like talking about it so matter-of-factly and the jokes were apparently killing but the whole time he was like wait she no they don't and then like he got in his head and he was like maybe hey i mean we don't have any kids is she did she not tell me did this guy somehow find out so any like really intense thing that just pretend you've done
Starting point is 00:36:45 like confusingly specific like that yeah right right yeah oh they'd be like you know you have three half brothers right yeah like i'm 23 and need you uh yeah right and guess what i'm your brother yeah and then they hug for a long time oh my gosh they come together like i know he wasn't there for you either man i know i know exactly what you've been through and then he goes away it's like i'm not related to you at all man yeah i would never be your family yeah right as he's taking the shots like that was all a joke yeah it's a lot of professional wrestling that i think we end up pitching to the nba but i also think you could pitch a trade rumor that would maybe bother him a little bit. Just like, damn, you know you're getting shopped in Detroit.
Starting point is 00:37:34 That's kind of what Dame was doing, right? With being like, assuming you did say, you think they want you shooting these free throws? They're like, whoa, oh, we got a Woj bomb. Look up at the screen, man. What's that say? You've been traded. Do these free throws even count? You don't fight for them anymore.
Starting point is 00:37:52 They even matter to you, right? At this point, I mean, they've been so disloyal to you. What do you even owe them? Anyway, have fun, man. Have fun. All right. Well, we'll give the league
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Starting point is 00:41:03 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And it's time, Sean, for you to participate in the fastest segment in NBA podcast history. This is the rapid-fire round of questions. This is how we close out the show. Just so you know, it's about answering as quickly as possible.
Starting point is 00:41:30 Don't meander. Don't even allow us to meander. You smell that? I smell some buns roasting. This guy's sitting in the hot seat. Yes, exactly. I'm sorry. So, back to it. Don'm sorry. You really got me with that one. So back to it.
Starting point is 00:41:48 Don't think. Just respond. You got to keep this segment on point and fast paced. Okay. Here we go. Start the clock. You want to go first? You want me to go first? I'll go first.
Starting point is 00:42:00 Okay. Here we go. Great. Straight up. Sean, are you ready? Here we go. Doesn't matter because i'm giving you the first question what is the best hypothetical slash not in-game nba jam squad if you could bring some some duo in who is it going to be we did a little oppo research of
Starting point is 00:42:19 ourselves and notice your shirt you're wearing right now. Benny the Bull and Del Curry. That's fun. Deep threat, Del, and then Benny the Bull is just chaos. Probably knocking people out of the way. Wow. You got the Splash Brothers on an NBA Jam shirt on your person right now. I do.
Starting point is 00:42:42 That would be pretty dangerous too. Okay, what two imaginary basketball players from film, TV, popular culture would you put on an NBA Jam squad? Great question, Miles. Oh, that is good. Okay, the ghost from The Sixth Man.
Starting point is 00:42:58 Oh, Kadeem Hardison's character? Yes. Yeah, the ghost just because you need the power of the supernatural and then uh i guess yeah dr jay from the fish you saved pittsburgh he's just dr jay really yeah but he would be fun but then but he has a ghost partner right okay i was thinking the kid from Thunderstruck but I don't really he doesn't have the height even though he does have the powers
Starting point is 00:43:28 of a human there are supernatural things actually not supernatural I don't want to distract or antagonize any of our fans who are big into astronomy or astrology but isn't that
Starting point is 00:43:44 they start coming together with the help of astrology a little bit isn't isn't that like they they start coming together with the help of astrology a little bit isn't the fish that saves pittsburgh like a pisces oh maybe he is um oh i think that is right yeah okay so yeah so the world and the astrological okay yeah right and then they're the coach of that team is susan miller from astrology zone the famous astrology website okay perfect idea that is Is Neon Bodo Shaq from Blue Chips? Yes. I couldn't remember the character's name, but yeah, he'd be good.
Starting point is 00:44:11 So producer Jabari picked Billy Ho and Neon Bodo. Okay, that's very good. Ho Bodo. All right, let them know. Sean, we got to keep this going, man. That answer was like a half hour long. Get it together most fun and impressive early season storyline
Starting point is 00:44:29 is it the resilient Celtics team 11-3 is it Portland leading the West at the time of this recording is it rookie head coach Will Hardy's jazz at 10-5 even though many anticipated a complete tank other surprise us I think it's the Jazz so far.
Starting point is 00:44:46 It's such a fun, weird group of guys. And I also like that Malik Beasley got a revenge game against the Timberwolves where he basically just said, I'm going to kill them all. Charming. Yeah. Sean, what are your top three basketball movies of all time? Okay, White Man Can't Jump. Love and Basketball.
Starting point is 00:45:12 Okay. And then... Give me some options for number three. I mean, look. Neon Boudot? Yeah. Oh, he got game. He got game. That's my top three.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Okay. Okay. Okay. Good picks. Good picks. Good picks. I'd add Teen Wolf in there, but that is because
Starting point is 00:45:30 I am broken because I saw it too young too many times and now it is all movies are viewed through a Teen Wolf. Sean, what did we say about bringing up
Starting point is 00:45:39 old stuff from the 80s? That doesn't matter, man. Thank you, Miles. Keep the segment going, Sean. Keep me on track. All right. You can travel back in time and attend any NBA game from history. What's the first matchup or game that comes to mind?
Starting point is 00:45:51 I want to see I want to see the game in 85 where the Lakers finally beat the Celtics. So I don't remember if that's game 7 of the finals. That's the one I'm going to see, I think. Other than that, it would be the I'd't remember if that's game seven of the finals. That's what I'm going to say, I think. Other than that, it would be the...
Starting point is 00:46:07 I'd love to see that. Klay Thompson, game six against Oklahoma City in 2016. Yeah. It's like being present for a magic trick. Yes. Yeah. Oh, man. There's something cool.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Wait, wait. Can you keep this segment going, Sean? Come on now. I'm sorry. Let me now ask you a question. That was a convincing sidebar. Oh, man. There's something cool about.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And then immediately snapped out of it. Hey, what the heck? The heck's going on here, Sean? Keep the segment going, man. What is a new rule you'd like to see implemented, altered, or whatever? What have you? Effective immediately in the league. And it can be realistic or it can be fantasy.
Starting point is 00:46:50 But tell us, what are you passionate about? I think that once a month, a team should be able to lower in a rock and jock style 25-point basket. Yeah. Thank you. This is the correct answer. We have the technology and we've had the technology so you know you can't do it every game but you get a couple in your pocket and yeah you know what they you know what they call it when a solution is right in front of you
Starting point is 00:47:16 yet you are just unable to to approach it and you just repeat the same mistake over and over it's called cowardice yeah i think that's what the league is experiencing right now. Finally, tacos or pizza? The other one's gone forever. I'm taking pizza. Yeah. I just feel like there's other
Starting point is 00:47:38 cousins to tacos that are close enough. So you think you could hack? You found a loop? Okay, so what's your tacos? The tacos are now... I think it's maybe that I lived in Northern California too long before moving to LA and I've just been a burrito person.
Starting point is 00:47:54 So I'm kind of like, I could deal with a tostada instead. Right, right, right. Okay, but what if it was pizzas or burritos then? Pizzas or burritos, that's tough. I think I might still choose pizza, but only just because I'm at a different point in my life
Starting point is 00:48:13 where it just destroys my body too much. Yeah, yeah, and that's all very interesting, Sean. Yeah, sorry. Right, right. But if you don't mind, I don't think you realize I asked a question right after Jax, and that is not allowed. There we go. Really, really get your head in the game, sorry. Right, right. But if you don't mind, I don't think you realize I asked a question right after Jack's, and that is not allowed. So really, really get your head in the game, man.
Starting point is 00:48:29 Finally, got to ask you this, Sean. Jack or Miles? Oh, man. Can I pick Jabari? Is that, I feel like that's taking the referee. Yeah, it seems like it's allowed. Other people have done it. So that's cool.
Starting point is 00:48:44 I thought that was more, i thought that was more i thought that was more original maybe what about jack you know what would be real you know it'd be real original picking me yeah i'm oh and 33 oh god um that's we haven't done the segment that many times all right and sean didn't know you know no it's cool man It's just I'm going to have to Inflate these balloons all over again That I have above me waiting to drop down When somebody finally picks me This is like your Jerry West
Starting point is 00:49:13 In the finals moment Looking at those balloons that aren't going to drop Yeah And when you finally get that Is it going to feel as good? Who knows You're just going to throw your MedBoosties MVP through your office window Exactly get that you're gonna is it gonna feel as good who knows you're just gonna throw your mad boosties mvp through your office window exactly well sean keen thank you so much for stopping by miles and
Starting point is 00:49:32 jack got mad boosties it was a pleasure having you on man where can people find you and listen to you and and all that round ball rock is the podcast that's at round rock pond on twitter i'm at sean keen on twitter uh i write about the words for golden state of mind i write about basketball Brown Ball Rock is the podcast. That's at Brown Rock Pond on Twitter. I'm at Sean Keen on Twitter. I write about the words for Golden State of Mind. I write about basketball at Yard Barker. And you can see me at the Hotel Paradox in Santa Cruz this week on Thursday, the 17th. Just staying there? Just hanging out by the pool?
Starting point is 00:50:01 Just hanging out by the pool. Nice. I'm just partying. I got a room. I'm going to trash it. It's going to be great great come on by there you go so you can they can see you there tonight it is that is the day of the release if you're in santa cruz get out there all right obviously oh god tell them where do you find us jack you know yeah yeah well i was i was just gonna say uh make sure you give us a follow on twitter at mad boosties m-a-D-B-O-O-S-T-I-E-S.
Starting point is 00:50:26 And we gotta give a shout out to the Boosties listener of the week. At Maxwell Jimenez wants to know, why haven't we discussed the Spurs? You know what? He's right. We blew it. We blew it. We love the jerseys. The jerseys are so dope, man.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I gotta say, I did not have the Spurs City Edition as like the the city edition jersey that i wanted to see but it's it's dope it's a very cool jersey i like the you know just a few simple choices they're not overdoing it but yeah very fun and also how can we forget purdle our favorite nba word game ever. And also plays for the Spurs. I mean, y'all, we're going to get there. We'll get to them. Purtle's balling this season. Josh Richardson,
Starting point is 00:51:12 I think a lot of people talk about some of the Jazz players being spare parts from other teams, but Josh Richardson's been on every team in the past few seasons and he's playing well. We'll definitely be discussing them further as the season continues so you worry not stick around maxwell jimenez worry not yeah but
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