The Daily Zeitgeist - Emmy NominaTrends 7/12: Icon of the Seas, Otterheimer: Destroyer of Boards, Boffo Box Office, WGA Strike, Emmy Awards

Episode Date: July 12, 2023

In this edition of Emmy NominaTrends, Jack and super producer Becca discuss the world's largest cruise ship, a rouge sea otter attacking surfers in SoCal, a Boffo Box Office® report, CEO's wanting the WGA strike to go on forever, and… oh yeah, the Emmy Award Nominations!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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folks. Finally. We've been waiting. I have literally nothing to say about these fucking things. I am Jack. Miles is out on the road today. But I'm thrilled to be joined by super producer, Zacharobos!

How are you doing, backup? I'm great. How are you, Jack? I'm doing fantastic. I'm great. How are you, Jack? I'm doing fantastic. I'm excited. I have my next vacation planned based on the world's largest cruise ship. Five times larger than the Titanic, which I forget how that one did.

It's going to be a no for me, Jack. It's going to be a no on this one. It is set to make its debut in jan 2024 i believe um it's called the icon we learn you know don't fuck with the ocean i just don't that does seem to be the ocean's take on things as we're gonna get into another story uh we don't have any more fodder for the summer of the shark but we got some fodder for the summer of the sea otter um i'm getting good i just need to like start doing local news i feel like just the local news teases is like what i've discovered after thousands of these episodes and i think i have a gift

i think i think my gift is local news tease that. That'll be my AK tomorrow, the local news tees. But all right, so this cruise ship, called the Icon of the Seas, very humble. It measures, I don't know, the measurements don't read as anything to me. Yeah. Like 1,198 feet. What?

I haven't seen a cruise ship bigger than 100 feet you know i don't i don't fucking know what that means i'm like it looks big and they all look big as hell dog this thing looks big as hell dog um it is capable of carrying 7600 guests um the way it really drives the thing that drives home to me is just like the features like so many water slides the ship is divided into eight primary areas Becca all of which

I'm sure you will be exploring the aqua dome sits atop the front of the ship it is the era of the orb as we recently covered so it makes sense that they've got an aqua dome offering 220 degree views and a 50 foot waterfall, 55 foot waterfall. You're already at sea. You know what I'm saying?

Like you're already in the ocean. Why do you need a 55 foot waterfall? Like the idea of already being in this massive ship and then on top of the ship, there is a waterfall. Well, because the ship has too much shit on it. So you have to see around all the other shit to be able to see that you're on the ship. It's like you're trying to drown. You know what I'm saying? Like this is too much.

I have a very like oblivious take on this. Like my first thought was, so i've never been on a cruise ship i've been on lots of fishing boats i to the point that i don't like really get motion sickness um i my kids are obsessed with cruise ships from the outside just like you know we we had a book of like how ships work or something like that and they saw a cruise ship and were immediately in love and like seeing it through their eyes again, I was like, Oh,

that's, that is cool. That looks amazing. I want to go on one of these like fucking water slides on a boat on the water. Um, yes, please.

Roller coasters, uh, give it all to me. And as I said, as before we were sort of recording, recording i was like and the thing that makes me feel safe about cruise ships is like remember that costa concordia like that ship captain who's like trying to impress a woman and like was like slaloming his fucking cruise ship through a crowded um harbor and it like turned over it's like one of the scariest looking images of like

cruise ship on its side because because that is like always your fear with a cruise ship is like well why isn't that thing just tipping the hell over it feels like it should tip over um and you know that thing tipped over and nobody died so i feel safe on these and uh i said that and then super producer victor was like yeah actually 32 people died all of them horribly in like a whirlpool because there weren't enough there weren't enough lifeboats and they were left in the water too long like that is terrifying a whirlpool like i i'm like my brain process no no i can't even like i'm like in the ocean and i'm like if i can't see my toes we're done you know like if my head isn't above the water i'm good i can swim but i'm not trying to you know like i'm trying to just lay and then head out

i'm trying to be lost at sea yeah i so those are the things that scare me like i know like what when i was drinking i would have definitely blacked out and like fell off the back of the cruise ship and just like never been heard from again like that would have totally happened to me i would just like wander time long you're lost forever no one home yeah totally um that that scares me uh the neurovirus outbreaks which are uh surging on cruise ships this year and just like all the the food poisoning and all that all that bad stuff scares me and now uh the boat sinking i guess should scare me again still 32 i think my brain at the time process is like only 32. There had to have been a ton of people on that thing. Well, I guess if there were 2,000 people on the boat.

Yeah. Like my odds are pretty good. But yeah, there's a lot to recommend these. It's just, it does like appeal to your inner child. It does also feel like just way too many people to be around. Like you wouldn't be alone. You wouldn't be able to like find a place to be alone for the the entirety of your time on the crew and you're like in bunk beds like you're like shacked up with other people i mean maybe not all of them but it does feel that way where it's like

there's like four little twin beds and you're like oh yeah this is a vacation i'm in this little twin bed on a boat yeah you're just in the barracks down below shoveling coal into the fire and sleeping in like communal bunk beds. But I cut you off. List all the other crazy shit on this boat. Okay, so the sweet neighborhood with a Mediterranean restaurant

and two floor sun deck. A five deck high open air central park with living plant walls. Chill island, bro. With four pools and a swim up bar thrill island featuring what the company says is the largest water park at sea called category six because you want you want to invoke disaster you know like a category 5 hurricane category 6 on fun there's an area dedicated to families called Surfside the Royal

Promenade with ocean views the hideaway that is a funny highlight because like is it not 360 ocean views on a boat the hideaway offers 180 degree views at the back of the ship and an infinity pool.

I don't know. Have fun. Anyone trying to go on this boat? I'm going to try and go on this boat, I think. I think I'm going to try and do it. I've promised myself one time before my kids are too old to get on this thing and want to

immediately lose me. I'm going to like get on this thing and want to immediately lose me you know i'm gonna i'm gonna take them on a cruise ship um so well we'll see but uh speaking of the sea attacking is fighting back against humanity we've heard about the orcas attacking the ships we've heard uh the buzz about it being the summer of the shark the oceans being swarming with sharks off the off the coast of various uh swimming beaches that one seems to be overhyped and bullshit but this one if the if the story i'm about to tell you was any other animal the mainstream media would be in a fucking panic right now they would be losing their shit so since mid-june an otter like a sea otter the the one at the end of finding dory the sea otters like the most aggressive thing they do

is like cutely hug one another and it causes like a traffic jam like they are the puppies of the sea well one of these puppies of the sea one of your so-called puppies of the sea has been attacking and terrorizing surfers off the santa cruz coastline in at least one case stealing a board and in recent days the attacks have grown increasingly aggressive so it's like an ongoing situation i love how in this la times article it says says, since mid-June, an otter which remains nameless, as if they're trying to keep the identity of the otter. I know. It's like, that is your decision, friend.

You are the ones who name the animals. Like, you're the ones who, like, White Gladys didn't come through. White Gladys is the orca that was attacking the yachts. White Gladys didn't come through and be like, all right, fine. You can have my name as White Gladys. Y orca that was attacking the yachts. White Gladys didn't come through and be like, all right, fine. You can have my name as White Gladys. Y'all named her.

This sea otter remains nameless because you just haven't come up with the right name to sell newspapers. But, uh, Lee said, so this person who'd been surfing near an otter for most of the time he was there, he was like,

it was being peaceful and friendly. And all of us surfers were like, oh, it cute that's what they want you to think you dumb fuck um but then another otter appeared seemingly out of nowhere which yeah it didn't sneak attack you it's just in the ocean so like you don't see it coming they're home you're in their home pal like that's what they're supposed to be. The fucking thing came out of nowhere. What, did you think it was going to announce itself while it was on shore and then come at you? And swam at another surfer. At first, we were like, look how cute.

I don't know if they added the question mark because surfers speak with upspeak. But then it bit down on the board and it chewed off a piece and we were like what's going on people forget that otters are predators like they are like like on the food chain they are predators yeah they're not vegans they are not supposed to be friendly they're that's when it turned its eyes on lee and made a beeline for him i was scared i was trying to swim away but before i was able to get far it bit my leash he said describing the tether surfers wear around their ankle and connects them to the board so i panicked and then he like tried to flip

it off and it just like scrambled back on because it's better at this thing you are this is where it lives it's it's good it's almost like finn-like legs and yeah but there would be an all-out war on otters if they weren't so fucking cute i don't absolutely i'm glad they are so cute i don't i don't think this otter deserves to be done anything but like given space there are plenty places to surf in southern California, go find a different location. Um, but it does seem like we've, we've pissed the ocean gods off Becca. I think they've had enough of our bullshit. Yeah.

And I'm with her. I'm with her. Yes. Fuck Poseidon. Um, it's a, it's a woman is what I'm saying. Uh,

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Becca. First of all, you know, Sound of Freedom, we were all wondering, is this thing just,

are they just selling tickets by buying them for one another? Still unclear on that, but it does, it is continuing to sell tickets.

It is like the number one movie at the box office right now um the more i've learned about it yeah it's it makes sense like they they haven't had one they haven't had a movie for them in a long time the the right and or like one that they can believe is for them and so yeah they they need this baby they needed the indiana jones wasn't enough because it says fuck nazis and indiana jones so they needed you know mission impossible well no this is i'm talking sound of freedom uh sound of freedom sorry we haven't even gotten to mission my bad what is sound of freedom sound of freedom is the like q anon yeah sorry so sound of freedom

is a movie that for those who haven't been listening sound of freedom is a movie that is like i just assume that was the new mission impossible because mission impossible sound of freedom that sounds about right right yeah no it does and i don't know why i assume everybody's up on sound of freedom this is starring jim caviezel jesus himself um who has like turned into a full q weirdo um and he's like an action hero similar like it doesn't sound like it's actually full q it's just like very similar to a lot of action movies that create a world in which foreign people are constantly trying to buy and sell humans you know human trafficking is a thing but the their source for like how human trafficking

actually works and how you combat human trafficking is a full-on like charlatan grifter guy who everybody who's an expert on human trafficking is like this guy. We should not be talking to him. He's, he is an expert on this in the way that Steven Seagal law man, like that, that reality show is an expert on fighting urban crime. Um, anyways,

uh, that one's still doing well. So we might have to just admit there are a lot of people who want to, who want to watch this uh piece of shit but um mission impossible dead reckoning uh had its midnight previews last night and it is somewhere between seven million and up which the the previous one was i, in the sixes. So it's doing incredibly well. The reviews are really glowing. The villain is stupid, according to the reviews.

We'll dig into that a little bit more on tomorrow's episode. But Cruise has done it again. So it seems like a lot of people are going to see this. Bringing people back to the movies. Yeah, the movies are having quite the moment right now. With Mission Impossible is going to do really well. And then Bob and Hymer. Bob and Hymer.

Bob and Hymer or Bob and Hymer. We prefer Bob and Hymer on here because it gives it a little fun, boppy vibe. But you already have your barbie outfit picked out i have my barbie outfit y'all i am so soaked to be having in my possession a juicy couture hot pink barbie pink sweatsuit i look incredible in it i've never wanted to be a real housewife of beverly hills more than i do this very much time. I need to go find me a sugar daddy. I need to be carrying a little dog in a purse and need to become a Paris Hilton. That is my goal. That is what I'm trying to emulate. When I go to the premiere,

I have little fuchsia pink heels. I got my girls. I already bought the tickets. Me and my girls were going to BAM,oklyn art museum or wow brooklyn academy of music there's two bams in brooklyn and it is frustrating because i understood bam for a long time as the brooklyn art museum and now people are like oh i went to bam to go see xyz and they mean the brooklyn academy of music i've never heard music out of there i've only ever seen movies so that's where you're going to see Barb? Barbie? I am going to go see Barbie there. And maybe Auburn Harbor.

Barbie, yes. Open night. Wow. Real Barb stan. I want to see it. IRL. I don't have to wait. I'm not going to be late to this game. I don't want to see any tweets. I want to be in there on time. Okay. I'm excited.

Well, you're going to have that opportunity, but it seems like it's good times for the box office in the coming weeks. So in the world of Hollywood, there is a deadline article that speaks to insiders on the bad guy side of the strike. So we're heading into at midnight tonight, SAG, Screen Actors Guild, is going to have to decide if they're going to strike or not. guy side of the strike so we're heading into at midnight tonight sag screen actors guild is going to have to decide if they're going to strike or not hopefully they are you know the last time that sag and the writers guild struck together there were major gains for the people who actually

make the art that you're interested in and not just the people who figure out how to maximally profit off of it but the people who figure out how to maximally profit off of it. Um, but the people who figure out how to maximally profit off of it, the CEOs and like, uh, the ex executives, uh, have are kind of quietly saying their strategy or people. So it might actually be their strategy.

It might just be them talking tough to try and scare writers into coming back to the table. Um, but this new deadline article uh gave quotes where ceos want to let the strike bleed out and the end game is quote to allow things to drag on until union members start losing their apartments and losing their houses it was so up like that gave me a visceral reaction to it here like oh so evil because it's like the whole reason they're striking is because they are not being given

their word and the people that have the power to give them their word are the ones who will never lose their house so it's like no we want to just make people feel like such shit that they're homeless and they have to work for us yeah how does that create any resolution for anybody in the industry no one would want to work in the industry like everyone's working slave wages like what is this like it's just uh america's so busted yeah they're saying the wga will hopefully be forced to restart talks before a very cold christmas um which is just like that's like literally a movie like what they are the movie villains yeah they also this will presumably before any be before any ceos risk another christmas where they will be visited by three ghosts who's giving national lampoon's

christmas vacation you know chevy chase evil but know, his boss really did him dirty in that one. Oh, I know what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. Um, he certainly cut everyone's Christmas bonuses. Yeah. So the union side is staying strong and pointing out this is just a negotiation tactic and hopefully an empty threat, especially if SAG joins that's when like real change that the producers are going to have to like come back to the drawing board. Um,

they, yeah, they're also like, this is a necessary evil. That's what they're saying. They're basically telling on themselves. Yeah. It's like,

I don't think there's anything necessary, just evil about this. Yeah. We're an unnecessary evil, uh, would actually be more accurate. But yeah. Otterheimer. Is that something? Maybe that would be a nickname

for the otter? Capture the zeitgeist. Brian's suggesting Oscar the ornery otter. That one's too hard for me to say, so I'm going to reject it on those grounds alone. Oscar the ornery otter. There it is. Alright, to say so i'm gonna reject it on those grounds alone oscar the ornery otter there it is um all right well becca ramos thank you so much for joining uh where can

people oh shit we never talked about the emmy awards i don't like so i mean this is the emmy awards they announced the nominations is a little weird like nobody really knows when the show will be because of the writer's strike. No one's writing for it. Right. The, this is also the 75th anniversary of the Emmy awards, which I mean, that's,

I've been looking forward to this for a long time. Thank God. 75 years. The, so I mean the nominees in drama and or better call Saul, the crown house of the dragon, the nominees in drama, Andor, Better Call Saul, The Crown, House of the Dragon, The Last of Us, Succession, The White Lotus, Yellow Jackets, and comedy, Abbott Elementary, Barry the Bear, Jury Duty, Marvelous Mrs. Maisel is still out here doing it. Who knew? Yeah, it's the last season, I think, that one was. Only Moiters in the building, Ted Lasso,nesday yeah wednesday wow yeah the only i didn't have a problem with much until we got to the end of

that list and then like ted lasso maybe not maybe it doesn't need to be on there and maybe we put reservation dogs in there uh you know wednesday maybe it doesn't need to be in there maybe we put atlanta atlanta um these seem like the decisions that would have been made by a more yeah wednesday was such because i felt like the reviews were not great i enjoyed it like i just enjoyed it as like a fun watch but i wasn't like emmy award winning Yeah. Barry was hilarious at the end. Like I see how that's outstanding comedy series. That shit cracked me up, but shout out to Abbott elementary,

which I'm assuming we'll continue to just clean up. Um, and we have our tagline for Otterheimer, Otterheimer. I am become destroyer of boards. I think green light it. We are scabs, by the way. We are pitching scripts to Hollywood producers.

So yeah, just hit us up. That's going to do it. Super producer Becca, thank you so much for joining. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me and follow me at Bex, B-E-C-C-S, Ramos on all platforms. And for Emmys, I do want to say shout out to Matt and Bowen of Las Culturistas. I produce on that show, but they got nominated for Five Islands. So. Okay.

Yeah. Congratulations. Amazing. All right. You can find me at Jack underscore O'brien uh on twitter and at jack underscore o underscore brian on threads where i will be posting every like three weeks like i do on twitter but i repost a hell out of funny stuff so you can find me there just follow the things i like and you'll you'll have a good time we're back tomorrow with the whole last episode

of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourself. Get the vaccine. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. And we'll talk to you all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.

And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry.

Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's

sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One,

founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.

And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.