The Daily Zeitgeist - Endless Shrimp or Private Equity? ScarJo vs ChatGPT 05.22.24

Episode Date: May 22, 2024

In episode 1680, Jack and Miles are joined by author of Grasping at This Planet Just to Believe, Taz Ahmed, to discuss… Endless Shrimp or Private Equity? ScarJo Has Lawyered Up--OpenAI Acting Dumb, Jesse Watters Mocks “Rage Rituals” Trend... Immediately Gets Owned By Guest and more! Endless Shrimp or Private Equity? ScarJo Has Lawyered Up--OpenAI Acting Dumb Sam Altman's "Human, in person, fantastic experiences" Clip Jesse Watters Mocks “Rage Rituals” Trend... Immediately Gets Owned By Guest ‘Rage rituals’ are the latest wellness trend among women LISTEN: Blood Moon (feat. Lil Uzi Vert) by Mike WiLL-Made ItSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

no it's the one between two apocalypse now and all eyes on me it's me against the world me against the world there it is was that 94 i feel like that was like 94 no it's right before no it's like that shit came out right before all eyes on me that's when people were like is this guy okay it was 95 or something or 95, yeah. And by then, I had a shitty enough little mustache that I was able to buy that album. One Tupac, sir. One Tupac for me, sir.

Would you like one as well, Brian? Ah, yes. Two Pocs. Me and my pal, my college roommate over here. This is my colleague. Me and my colleague would like two Tupacs. Four Pops, if you will. It's a joke we make down at the markets.

Dos, I'd rather do Tupac. Yes, that's French. We're world travelers. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

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And it is Wednesday, May 22nd, 2024. Guess what? For all the people who wanted to burn some time on that computer lab, computer, library computer, it's National Solitaire Day. And the image seems to be like the windows stock version of solitaire which shout out to the like the tropical fish uh cards i feel like i always like to do the card on that mode anyway it's also emergency medical services for children day national vanilla pudding day national buy a musical instrument day and national maritime day shout out to boats and shit yeah do they have like an update to the solitaire game like are people playing more high-tech like 3d graphics solitaire i don't know you see the flip of the

card man i don't yeah would you would i i don't know yeah it's i i feel like they do they do nominal upgrades to it but i haven't been been on a PC and then been like, I'm going to play Solitaire in maybe 10 years. Most Solitaire I ever played working the front desk at a health club, like a fitness club. Just Solitaire for days. Because it was like for a while, that was just the one way you could get away with doing some other shit at a job or something. They got a computer and you're like they either have ski free solitaire minesweeper that kind of shit and you would just mine sweeper solitaire and then i was like man

this is rough anyways my name is jack o'brien aka every pass you take and every move you make every time you take masturbation breaks your car watches you oh can't you see your car smells your d i don't know i don't know how they do it i don't know how they're doing how they know about our sexual activity. That one is courtesy of La Caroni on the Discord. Yeah, our cars know about our sexual activity. I'm coming up with my best guess on that one. That was an addition for me that I think it must be smelling you to be like, oh, yeah, this guy. Oh, like the seats?

The guy just cranked it again. If the seats can, I guess. Smells like Nivea. If the seats can air condition, then I guess they could reverse the function and then draw air through the seat. That cool air, they can probably inhale some, too. Well, it's a musty air. Glad my car doesn't have that feature on it. I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!

Oh, it's Miles Gray here, a.k.a., look, it's the Shogun Winoga and the Lord of Lancashire. I'm currently watching Gojira Godzilla Minus One. I've watched it two and a half times now. Like, right now? Well, we're recording a podcast. Yeah, I'm watching it right now. Oh, shit! Oh, bro, he fucked up.

Wow, that shit came out of nowhere again. shit! Oh, bro, he fucked up. Wow, that shit came out of nowhere again. I'm sorry. Every time he charges up. You never see it coming. Yeah. Every single time. Get out the fucking way! Oh, God.

Anyway, I'm distracted. I'm distracted. But anyway, yes, thank you for having me. I am here. I am here. Hey, man, anytime. Not watching Godzilla minus one again. But thank you for thanking.

Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat once again. Been way too long by a brilliant and talented political strategist, storyteller, artist, who writes and has performed her poetry on stages everywhere, including the White House. Please welcome Taz Ahmed! Hey! Hi, you guys. What's up? I'm excited to be back.

Good to have you. Good to have you. Good to have you. To be clear, it wasn't like this White House. It wasn't the last White House. It was like Obama's White House, you know? Yeah, yeah. It was Obama's White House. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was Trump, right? Big Trump. Big Trump there. Yeah. He's doing the keynote. And he, in turn, big fan of poetry. So it makes sense, the whole thing. My Muslim poet? Yeah. Doing the keynote. And he, in turn, big fan of poetry. So it makes sense. The whole thing.

By a Muslim poet? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd love to invite my favorite Muslim poet laureate to the lectern now, Taz Ahmed. His movie, the biopic, is getting some heat over in Cannes. Yeah. That's like the big movie. Wait, there's a Trump biopic? There's a Trump biopic.

Yeah. What? With Jeremy Strong playing, what's his name? Roy Cohn. Roy Cohn. Yeah. movie wait there's a trump biopic there's a trump biopic yeah what with jeremy strong playing uh what's his name roy cone yeah and then jeremy strong playing trump jeremy strong playing trump's like mentor although that would be kind of surreal to see the jeremy strong version like just you know him being uh you know succession boy yeah then just saying like yeah that's donald trump that's fine we'll run with that i'd rock with that and then like what isn't it one of the guys who is like producing it is like a huge trump donor now he's like trying to threaten it by being like i didn't know you

were gonna make that kind of movie it's gonna be like a glowing portrait yeah he's like what the fuck yeah dan snyder furious about yeah it says billionaire trump donor dan snyder reportedly furious after watching trump film he funded tried to block its release oh that's fucking wonderful is that dan snyder who used to own the washington football team yeah yeah yeah wow amazing who would have thought someone who's resisting the name change of the most racist one of those racist team names ever i was like i, I think we're going to want to keep it. Let's keep that.

My goodness. Taz, what's new with you? Anything? I have a poetry book that just came out. Grasping at this planet just to believe. Grasping at this planet just to believe? Cover looks beautiful. Thanks. I've been writing poetry for a long time,

kind of like on the side of everything I do in my life. And this one is a collection of poems I wrote over the course of Ramadan, which is the holy month for Muslims. And so I would write poems every day. I had a group, we had like a group of 70 people. And this is a collection of poems written over 10 years, which I'm really excited about. I'm excited to have it out in the world. Oh, wow. know a lot of writers who are because hollywood has stopped employing writers since the strike basically i know a lot of writers who are like getting into writers groups and stuff like that oh my god it's the only way i can write i have a writer's group i meet with like i have a writer's group every day of the week it's called an adhd world is called body doubling where you need to see another body working so that you can be inspired to work.

Oh shit. I have. I like that. Say that again. Yeah. I'm really coming to terms with the fact that like, I don't, I like,

I really have bad ADHD that I'm just like, yeah, this is, it's why like the only projects I've been able to get off the ground are ones where I have like someone that I've like been able to get off the ground are ones where i have like someone that i've like been working on it with yeah yeah like a co-host cannot do something right we do a show every day oh my god jack right this is this is but every time i don't record every time i don't record the show i don't i don't bathe i can barely eat i can lose track

everything and then i'm right back into it when i'm like oh jack's eating too okay i'm gonna do that i'm gonna do that yeah yeah i have a real uh what's that what's that show with adam scott severance yeah i have a real severance thing where i i just come to and i'm recording this show and then when it ends i just go away and don't remember anything and they're like how was how was work? And you're like, I think it was good. Let me press play and find out. Oh, shit. Well, congratulations on the book.

We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we are going to tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about today. We have an update. So Red Lobster did officially file for bankruptcy. The New York Times wrote a very like poetic, like sort of obit for the company. But we have a little bit more on like what was going on. It seems like there was some chicanery happening behind the scenes. You will not be surprised to learn, I think we mentioned this before, but that they were bought by private equity in 2014.

So, yeah. The clock just started ticking in 2014, basically. Yeah. We're going to talk, Scarlett Johansson has lawyered up because of OpenAI's assistant basically sounding exactly like Scarlett Johansson to the degree that they like did this

massive launch and then had to like take it back down so we're just going to talk about that there is precedent for people like there's a lot of internet legal experts which is where i get all my legal advice of course yeah who are like you can't copyright a voice so sam altman is fine leave him alone the same people who are like just just mail't copyright a voice. So Sam Altman is fine. Leave him alone. The same people who are like, just mail yourself a copy of your script and it's copywritten. Yeah, exactly. Oh, is it? But it turns out that's not the whole truth. We'll talk about Jesse Waters mocking rage rituals on his show and getting owned by guests. Just the rhythm of the jesse waters show which is just i'm starting

to think he has like a humiliation fetish but we'll talk about it something he's a sad guy all that plenty more but first as we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history okay i got on the bridgerton bandwagon. I Googled, did bangs exist in 1813? Because you're talking about the one sister who's rocking the bangs. Yeah, that one sister has like the really long bangs. And I was like, this looks like a 19, you know, like a 2020 bang. Yeah. So then I Googled.

Then I went down this like rabbit hole of learning about hair during the Regency era. Right. So I guess they did have bangs. Oh, they did. I just didn't believe it. Yeah. Yeah, there are some paintings. They're just like not the famous ones.

Wait, what was their name? Is it Eloise who got the bangs? Well, like that one sister had like really long bangs. And I was like, because the first one in season one, she had that short, weird, short Audrey Hepburn type bangs. Uh-huh. Yeah, Eloise. Eloise got the wild bangs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, do they have bangs?

When did bangs start? I don't know. That's what I'm trying to get to. Is that something you can Google? When did bangs start? I'm looking up Portrait de l'actrice Jean Samari by Renoir. It's a portrait painted in 1877. And she's working with bangs.

She looks great. Bangs. By the way. Oh, shit. Okay. Girls always get bangs when they break up with guys. So I feel like forever. Yeah.

Gotta try the bang out. Also, there's... I mean, well, Caesar, right? Isn't the Caesar a very banged male haircut? In a way, yeah. That's not banged. But it's not like bangs. That's more just push all over the front. That's a Caesar.

Yeah, it's a Caesar. All hands on deck to the front of the class. This is an interesting page that's just like, Ancient Ages bangs. And it's got some like Egyptian. Oh, that's true. The Egyptians had bangs. The Egyptians were rocking bangs.

1490s to the 1500s. Bangs had a little bit of a moment. Joan of Arc was rocking bangs. Joan of Arc. Bangs been around. Totally. Bangs been around. Yeah.

I like those two, though, in my mind. Also, I'm like, debate! It's so funny because looking at that character, I'm watching this new season, too, and it feels like it's like a wig bang. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, it's part of the hair piece. So, like, sometimes it has, like, different, like, levels of body to it.

And I'm like, man, she's playing with these fake bangs. And then I was like, is this allowed with these fake bangs and then i was like is were there is this allowed were there i keep googling i've been watching this whole season just like well like the last season there was like an indian character so i was like did people from india go to england and i was like duh of course we were called nice by them so that makes sense right right i was googling i don't know if you saw cotton this last season there was like a Right. Right. I was Googling.

I don't know if you saw Cotton this last season. There was like a rotating band. The band was rotating in the center of the dance floor. Oh, no. Kind of like a pedestal. Yeah. And I was like, how did that happen? Did they do that? I don't know.

Every episode, I Google something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was there like a little mouse doing like powering a wheel that was making it rotate? Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I was like, they didn't have electricity yeah well i mean that's the thing where like obviously they take liberties especially with like the race relations that's true there are some irish people underground just like shoveling coal into it working the bellows yeah we need more power did you watch queen charlotte though that's like the closest one where they

they reckon with like the post-racial kind of vibes of the show and i was like oh because every yeah the other ones are always like yeah i was like googling her then i found like all these old pictures of her paintings of her and what she was supposed to look like right and apparently she wasn't as gorgeous as they make her out to be in the real, in this TV show. And neither was King George. No. Yeah. That's all the whole series.

I've been Googling a lot. Right. You're realizing you're like, maybe I'm not watching it for the historical accuracy at all. Oh, this is fiction. This is made up. Got it.

Yeah. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. Love it. What is something you think is underrated? Okay. Underrated for my type of people people i went to bass bass pro shop yesterday oh yeah i love yo you nailed it by like i think i'm not my thing but bass but yeah bass pro shop yeah

unless that's like unless you're doing bass there yeah or like you're like you had to put 15s in my in my honda you know i mean putting a new sound system like, yeah, to put 15s in my Honda. You know what I mean? Putting a new sound system in there. I had to put some subwoofers. Some bass. I went to Bass Pro Shop. You know how we do it.

Okay, so you're at Bass Pro Shop. And what did you see over there? Well, I'm going camping this weekend, so I needed a sleeping bag. But, you know, you're in there. There's like stuffed bears. There's geese flying. There's a whole aisle for beef jerky yeah there's every kind of cooler you want i don't know i was really impressed yeah i was impressed what got you the

most the beef jerky aisle the beef jerky aisle was very intensive because there was like i didn't realize there was so much equipment involved with jerking beef and they you could get a gun which you put seasoning in and shoot your meat i don't know i spent a lot of time there's a gun to make beef they also have uh sleeping bags that come out of a gun yeah they have pillows that shoots out of a bazooka a mosquito gun where you like shoot it with a gun i was like how, how are you going to shoot a mosquito with a gun? What comes out of it? Probably the salt one, probably, right? Like the bug blaster that they use for flies.

So you know things like this. Yeah, because there's like the one used with flies and you basically fill it up with salt and the little granules of salt act as like buckshot to just like blow their wings apart and render them useless or dead. Yeah, it's really cool.

Really high-tech stuff. Really high-tech stuff. I've never been to a Bass Pro Shop. I've just driven past them on the outside, but they do look like magical places. Oh, you should go. You'll spend hours and hours. Were we just talking about how they have like a racist gun collection?

Yeah, yeah. Some of them have racist gun collections. I was going to say, the first time I went, I was like, oh my God, brown girl going into the store that I'm going to get like harassed. But, you know, it was fine. Wait, where are you going? Are you doing a desert camp? Are you doing a forest camp? We're going to San Luis Obispo on the beach, I think.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice. I know I have a group of camping friends. So like we go camping like during the pandemic we were going camping every other month so i had to like have gear yeah wait i'm not a camping person what happened you didn't have a sleeping bag already oh i did i wanted a better one oh oh so you're leveling up you're the this was my level of life okay okay i get that

yeah you weren't using the one with the orange one that had Michael Jordan printed on the front like all the kids had in the 90s. And I also got it like leveled up in the lantern. I got a headlamp this time. Yeah, yeah. Got to get a headlamp. Headlamp. Huge. Interchangeable lenses?

I think so. You want to go to red, to red light so it's a little bit easier on the eyes at night? Okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know. You can see the coyote, but they can't see you. That sort of thing so is is beach camping like even colder that was a question that i had yeah yeah yeah oh my god it's so cold the night is so cold it's crazy we used to do that in high school go down to

leo careo beach and get like because that was like the one place where like as kids were like yo you can go down as a kid and get so drunk and smoke weed all night no one gives a fuck and that was my first foray into beach camping was being so underprepared but just to be like well it's a place to drink alcohol without adults around right so we will camp that's fun yeah well good luck with your camping good Good luck. Did you come away? Are you the type of shopper who goes in, gets the thing, and can make it out of there without picking up extra things? No, I didn't. Oh, like impulse buys?

I bought a bear horn. What am I going to do with a bear horn? You got a bear horn? Yeah, I was like, do I buy a bear spray or do I buy a bear horn? I mean, I don't even know if there's bears at this camp. I'm probably fine. Yeah, I don't know if there's beach bear camping, but yeah, why not? I was in the bear horn aisle.

Did somebody upsell you? They're like, you know what you're going to need. No, I upsold myself. I did this to myself. Sleeping bag like that. Bear's going to be looking at you like a snack. I got bear spray. No, you need a bear horn.

So what, that shit is just so loud that it just will put a bear off and they'll retreat? I don't know. I was staring at the items for a very long time. Or is it the other most powerful thing I could imagine where it calls bears to you? You just have like an army of bears. Oh, right. It's like a... And you're just supposed to play dead, right?

Like one of them you're supposed to play dead. The other one you're supposed to run as fast as you can, which I can never tell which one it is. Because like black bears and brown bears, like kind of like... I was just about to say, well, I think it's like whichever one starts with a B is like make yourself big,

except they both start with a B. Right. Yeah, it says both start with a B. Yeah, it says if you counter a grizzly bear, do not play dead. Stand your ground, don't turn your back and run. Speak calmly and firmly. That's with a grizzly, it said. Do not play dead with a grizzly. Stand your ground?

Yeah. So just like act tough? We're not about to be disseminating bear survival information we should have dr ray wing great if we're gonna do that out here someone's be like i was listening to the daily zeitgeist and they said start playing kendrick lamar not like us and seawalk and the bear will turn no again i was like trying to come up with a mnemonic i was like grizzly bear give him a scare but then that also works for black bear so again like i gotta fucking come up with if the bear is black lie on your back

there it is okay again these are not right these are not real brown run around go to town wait aren't you a scout leader shouldn't you be kind of knowing some shit like i'm a scout leader for kindergartners man they're not gonna fucking remember any of this shit oh they're gonna remember yeah if there's a bear there you're gonna remember for the rest of life they said the only time he said playing dead may work if you're being attacked by a mother grizzly defending her cups but is the wrong thing to do if you're being attacked by a predatory bear yeah yeah i'm sorry are you a mother and are you i'm just trying to get some context as to what this interaction is before i decide what my strategy will be here yeah but if you're if they're hungry they'd be

fine with you just playing dead while they eat you yeah yeah this is nice actually and you're like so much but bearsmart.com in their myths section told me to do this. Bearsmart.com. Yeah. That was the first one Google served me. Again, I'm not sure if this is even useful. That's why I said this is not bear information. Yeah.

This is not bear information we're giving out. I mean, I'm sure I'll be fine on this camping trip. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All that to say, yeah, I'll be fine. It'll just be like the, it'll just be like, you know, because like beach campers also have like a vibe too.

I feel like the people who, you know, beach camp, like it's more the humans you want to keep your eye on than like the wildlife. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into

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A family man, former NFL player, devout Christian, now cut off from his family and connected to a strange arrest. I am going to share my journey of how I went from Christianity to now a Hebrew Israelite. I got swept up in Kabir's journey. But this was only the beginning in a story about faith and football, the search for meaning away from the gridiron, and the consequences for everyone involved. You mix homesteading with guns and church and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked. Voila! You got straight away. I felt like I was living in North Korea, but worse, if that's possible.

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who wants to protect her right because that's actually the situation when i want to be in because i'm very lazy and i just want to play dead right and then be like just stop it's not even fair all right uh so updating the story about red lobster uh declaring for bankruptcy they have officially done it wait what was the overrated again am i tripping overrated oh i didn't do overrated oh i just wrote san luis obisispo because you had mentioned that next year overrated for no reason. Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah. No, I fucked up. Taz, what is something you think is overrated? Oh, my God.

I want to say democracy. Hmm. Interesting. I want to say I'm not democracy itself. I want to say that this election cycle and getting these stupid texts from the democratic party that are like, time is, is crunch. Don't you need,

want to donate to us? And then I respond with, what about the genocide? And then no one responds to my texts. They're like, huh? Yeah. They're like,

you were asking about democracy. Yeah. And you're like, no. Okay. Yeah. We got you were asking about democracy. Yeah. And you're like, no. Okay. We got another one asking about the genocide. I got another one that was like, have you given up on Joe Biden? It was another one I got recently.

You're like, don't give up on me, babe. Yeah. They're still doing that shit where they're are the they're using the uh this rhetoric this has happened so many times and my my mom also has given my number to the democratic party so i also get her spam text and there's always this one that just says not mad just disappointed i saw that one time please sign to confirm your support for joe byron in 2024 uh boy yeah yeah but yeah i know you mean you're saying democracy as it is being used rhetorically to tell people like don't demand more of the incumbent but what about democracy which is yeah well look like i have a 25 year long career in doing electoral politics i

have been spent my whole life i've spent my whole life getting out Asian Americans and Muslim Americans and South Asians to vote. And I like created all this messaging around like, you know, we need to go vote so that we can show these people in power that we have power. They need to be held accountable to us. And I feel like in the past six months, that rhetoric has like the mainstream rhetoric has just made every reasoning I've ever done in my campaigns kind of fall apart. And it just, I haven't been able to work an election cycle this time. I do not have it in me to like reenter this kind of civic engagement world,

which is awful to say because, you know, I've been doing this work for 25 years. Like I'm so, so like heartbroken by like how, how like democracy has been falling apart in this time period. That it just, i would just rather write poems in my corner of the world instead of like trying to encourage someone to go vote in this in this period yeah yeah i mean yeah it's it feels like it many people are like just reaching that point where it in in past cycles like it's been easier to like sort of connect yourself to the stakes and

like why it's like why this is important but it's just like also you see the cynicism of just like the people in power and how they rule and you're like this is so fuck like we're just we're just talking about democracy like it's something like this myth thing like it's not i don't see it functioning in any fucking way at all um aside from the fact that there are elections where people vote and they count votes for things. But in terms of the idea of like an electorate also being able to exert any kind of influence over their elected officials that I mean, like, just look around. I feel like I see story after story where that is not the case at all. Yeah. Even, even that what we've heard about, like Congress people, like people are calling into their Congress members about what's happening in Palestine. And those calls are being deleted by staffers.

Like, so we're people, the people in power aren't ever actually hearing from the electorate because he gets mad at me. If people call about that, he gets so stressed out. So we got to delete it. So he doesn't get mad.

Do we get more Gaza calls today? No, no, no, no, no, no. Everybody seems cool. Everybody's chill. The phone was like ringing all day. It was just, it was just like telemarketers. You don't know how that works. Uh, yeah.

Keep on keeping on Senator. Fight the good fight. Yeah. Killing it. Killing them. Killing them. I mean, killing it. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. No, it's, it fight. Yeah. Killing it. Killing them. Killing them. I mean, killing it. Killing them.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yeah. No, it's, it's, yeah, I don't blame you because it's, I mean, like the cynicism I feel is at an all time high. All time high. Yeah.

Yeah. And just the discourse around even like the mere idea of people wanting to exert, like exercise or use any form of leverage they have to try and get a candidate to do something different is being just met with like just oh so you love donald trump okay all right i didn't realize that no that that's very clarifying i never fucking said that glad to hear it that you love donald trump so much you know, it's not going to be any better if he's president, right? Oh, God. Yeah.

You're not. You're completely missing the point. The point of democracy. Yeah. That's it's not. I sit back and I just accept what is put in front of me. Like there is a little bit of back and forth here. Although, yeah, like when you read the stories, even like it sounds like it's not just fucking Biden.

It's like there's even senators, too, who are just completely burying their fucking heads in the sand and being like i don't know i don't know if these polls are right i don't know i can't believe it everyone's so scared to say anything right now and then now now with all the student protests happening i don't know masks are coming off of us all of a sudden because students are like practicing their right to protest and their right to speak out on these campuses which they're spending so much money on well right it's my right as a senator to say i think those kids should be killed okay uh they should be deported yeah there you go oh go. Oh, Jesus. That's a solution. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I don't really,

I'm not smart. So this whole thing is very inconvenient for me. So yeah. All right. Let's felt that felt that overrated for sure. Just a little, just a little overrated. Yeah.

Well, cause it's also too, I'm sorry to go back to this. Like even though all the, so many headlines every day, like with Trump, even like with this like latest video he posted where there's like something about a unified Reich, like in this, like, I don't know if you guys saw this. I didn't see that.

He posted it. And like, it's, it's like a headline from like a World War One thing or whatever. But obviously people like, look, look what he's trying. You see what this is, what this guy is going to do. This is, and all of the emphasis is on how bad trump is and the idea that no one is saying well can biden do better like that that is being completely obscured and also just being like erased from the conversation is so frustrating because it's basically telling everyone in the electorate who has a concern or an issue that they're they want addressed it's like

that actually doesn't fucking matter right now because we just need to focus on how bad this fucking guy is. Okay. And I don't want to fucking hear it. Okay. I fucking don't want to hear it. Yeah. And yeah,

that's just, how do you, how do you look at that as a system and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, this works.

This is good. This, this will help. I think we're good here. This is the solution. Yeah. Right. All right.

Shall we get to the endless shrimp? I think big news in the world of endless shrimp deals from Red Lobster. Yeah. So, no, it does tie back to kind of an ongoing theme here, which is when there's like an institution in the world of like consumerism, commerce, and it just of dies even though it seems like it's been doing basically the same thing that it's always been doing toys r us is an example from the past j crew is an example from the past kb toy like all the toy stores all any company that was like yeah they were good at that very specific thing and like seemed to be growing and growing and then they just like went away it's usually because a private equity company came in bought them or like became a major investor in them and these

private equity companies which if they were acknowledged as like the mass of companies that they are like they you know they're like a bunch of shell companies like embedded with within one another because they don't want people to know how massive they are but if people knew how massive they are they're like the third and fourth biggest company some of them are like the third and fourth biggest companies in in america like behind amazon and apple like they're these massive companies that operate essentially as a parasite they like get you to commit to them with money and then they insinuate themselves into the bloodstream of your business in a way that benefits them and literally kills

the host and like and they move on it's just they got the blood it's this massive like clearly broken part of how capitalism works right now that nobody's doing anything about and in fact it like seems like it's like invisible to the mainstream media and like this red lobster story is a great example like it hit and everyone's like it out of business because they fucking did too many shrimp. Yeah. Yeah. There's so many jokes and fun headlines about the shrimp thing. Yeah.

Yeah, exactly. And I think, but even then when we saw that, we were immediately like, I think in the middle of her, like, hold on the kid,

let's just Google red lobster, private equity. And we did. And we're like, Oh, that's what the fuck it is. And then we're like, okay,

soon enough, they'll file for bankruptcy and cut to now they have. And so the private equity aspect of it, the company Golden Gate Capital basically cash out of the company as possible, and drink all their blood because fuck longevity. And so when a company like Red Lobster owns the real estate that the restaurants operate on, you have less to worry about when times are lean because you don't have to worry about paying rent because that's not part of your operating costs. And that's what makes these private equity firms so dangerous.

They see that the only valuable asset a company like Red Lobster has is the real estate. So Golden Gate Capital sold the real estate to help fucking fund the purchase of the company and then did a lease back where now they're like, all right, Red Lobsters, you got to start paying money back to the new people that own the real estate because we sold it for money for us. This is a critic of private equity. Eileen Applebaum put it this way, quote, once they sell the real estate, then the private equity company is golden and they've made their money back and probably more than what they've paid. The retail apocalypse is all about having your real estate sold out from under you so that you have to pay the rent in good times and in bad. And so once they got their

real estate money golden gate sold about a quarter of the company to a thai seafood company thai union who is now operating the restaurants and is now basically holding the bag because they're like oh this shit is this shit does not work at all yeah and like we're saying most headlines you're gonna read about this bankruptcy don't mention private equity at all like in the headline and why would they because like you go to fortune.com and it's just like oh what went wrong with red lobster and it's like there's not even a fucking mention of it some articles do explicitly mention private equity but not as basically saying like it's all because of this is how private equity operates like they were

purchased by a private equity firm golden gate capital yeah and the story isn't oops we sold too much cheap shrimp it's oops private equity is fucking hollowing out companies and greed and chaos in the markets ensue because of their greed and i was doing a quick search boston market is also in a similar situation due to private equity oh yeah yeah they've so yeah they've been private equitied up to the gills that there is like a story where the shrimp company that like owned red lobster was then like basically selling basically committing to these massive orders of shrimp so that they could like pay themselves essentially like they they were kind of double dealing but

again it like everything all the laws of like the basic laws of like supply and demand and like markets just stops functioning when like private equity gets involved because private equity is they pretend like they're an owner, but they're actually just a parasite that is just trying to drain the company of like all money and they don't care if it dies it doesn't matter to them if it dies because they're invisible so they just get all the money and fuck off to the next company that they're going to put out of business i mean i really i mean i feel like this should be illegal but then it's like what you said it's private because we have all this protection around what we have protections around monopolies we have protection around they're trying to like get tiktok banned in the u.s because you know, we have all these other laws protecting businesses. I don't understand how they're literally able to sell the land underneath the store out under them. Well, because it's like, well, we own the company.

So now we own the real estate and now we can do whatever we want and now our business model is so backwards that we don't care about operating costs because we already made our money selling the fucking real estate and who gives a fuck if red lobster dies or whatever or the people who work there don't have a fucking job anymore and like yeah i mean it is difficult because like the really fucked up versions of this story uh like when you're talking to a lawyer at the doj who does was specifically working like private equity cases is stuff when it like relates to things like health care. Yeah. Like, you know, fucking retirement homes and things like that and elder care where these companies just go like, well, we found a way to run this business very lean and make a profit for ourselves. And now a retirement or elder care

center is not running like above board at all or like just has you know barely enough staff barely enough equipment and then when people tragically die people like the victims or the victim the families of the victims have no legal recourse because the way these are structured they go and they're like well who actually owns this i mean it's private equity but the way we're structured is we represent a consortium of investors as like a fund. So it's there's really and like and that's how they get away with like this really fucking heinous stuff. Yeah. One thing, though, is that it did like Slate.com.

Like they they they acknowledge like the private equity part. But they also did a thing about like people who worked at Red Lobster were talking about how bad the the endless shrimp thing was like how people would get fucking wild over the endless shrimp and they're like look man i got literally have a lot of fucking tables like you can't get a to-go box that's the fine print of this right or people like they say one person would stay like for hours and like nap at the table in between like heaping servings of shrimp scampi pasta can't make me leave that's not it no where's that in your fine print asshole yeah

but you know all these like Asian buffets do it like people go and eat the shrimp and all this and they're able to survive because they own themselves yeah and they're like well we know how to run a business and it's not to be like, let's make this.

Yeah. Yeah. Let's make this as difficult for ourselves as possible in terms of operating. Yeah. But yeah, another one bites the dust. And I didn't realize one thing with Boston Market, the thing that's really kind of fucked them over. I completely didn't realize is they basically gave the rest of like the food service world the idea to be selling like delicious rotisserie chickens oh really that's when yeah that's when costco was

like i see and then everyone's like yeah man uh just get your costco chicken like like boston market just didn't have a way to you know to compete after that not that that was like the only thing but that was like a huge do you guys have kenny rogers roasters i think i lived in kentucky maybe at that stage like early 90s there was this there that was like the first rotisserie chicken i ever saw was kenny like a kenny rogers owned chain of like rotisserie chickens and that shit was so good it was like and then i remember boston market coming along boston chicken i think it was called back then yeah it's boston chicken but yeah i feel like i was at the the early adopting edge of uh rotisserie chicken back then they only had one kenny rogers i remember in the valley was in burbank and i just never i was like us i never like i didn't even

know who kenny rogers was at the time i was like what the fuck is this uh and then i then i saw the seinfeld episode and i was like i think it makes you lose your mind so maybe not yeah this shit was founded in 91 early days kenny rogers roasters yeah god damn you gotta know one to hold them and no one to fold them that's right man all right let's uh let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about open ai the other scam of our lifetime i'm jess casavetto executive producer of the hit netflix documentary series dancing for the devil the 7m tiktok cult and i'm cleo gray former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

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so now uh the story continues to evolve and that now they're basically getting in trouble for it yeah i think so scarlett johansson released a statement uh and it basically outlines kind of like what her interactions were with sam altman and open ai and she says that altman first reached out to her in september about potentially voicing sky because he believed it would quote bridge the gap between tech companies and creatives and something about her voice being like a comfort to users like that would just kind of help people transition into this apocalyptic technology or they want you to believe it's apocalyptic anyway so she declined she was like yeah let me think about that it's a no for me me, dog. She was like, so I worked on the film,

so I actually had to watch it all the way to the end so I know what happens in the movie. I know beyond the first like 30 minutes, which is apparently all that you've seen. Right. And I don't want to tell a user that I'm also having simultaneous conversations with 8,000 other people

or whatever that line was in the movie. Yeah, that shit was dope. But then, so she declined. And then two days before the ChatGPT demo came out with the sky demo came out altman reached out again asking her to please reconsider two days before yeah yeah exactly someone probably reminded like ah you may want to fucking circle back with scarlet man because anyway yeah he had his ai legal team aka just his AI legal team, aka just a real legal team,

look through his interactions and they were like, we're fucked here, Sam. You asked her, dude. Yeah. There's like a paper trail. And before she could say, fuck off, dweeb,

the company went ahead and released the demo. And despite the fact that, like you said, this motherfucker literally tweeted her, H-E-R, when the demo was released. He just said this is a bad mix-up. Quote, we believe that AI voices should not deliberately mimic a celebrity's distinctive voice.

Skye's voice is not an imitation of Scarlett Johansson, but belongs to a different professional actress using her own natural speaking voice. using her own natural speaking voice. We cast the voice actor behind Skye's voice before any outreach to Ms. Johansson. Out of respect for her, we have paused using Skye's voice in our products. We are sorry to Ms. Johansson that we didn't communicate better. That is a real apology.

Did they really think she wasn't going to lawyer up? How did they not think that i don't i think it speaks to an arrogance of these people generally yeah that like even when they well they think that like they don't realize how eerie their technology is and like scarlet like we really think like you can help us like they're like dude no so we'll reach out to scarlet she'll be like yeah oh my god it's so cool would love to be involved. Then we move forward. Yeah, there wasn't just a massive strike of writers and actors that were all about being like, yo, fuck AI.

Yeah, so we want to ask her to be her. Okay. But basically, it seemed that once her lawyers, she lawyered up when she saw this, and once her lawyers asked, they're like, we'd like a step-by-step explanation as to how the voice of sky was even made open i was like it's all good man uh we're taking it down it's actually cool we actually don't need to give you that because we're gonna take it down because we're thinking it's dumb anyways and we're like we just the

thing we hate is a miscommunication so So that's why we're taking it down. It has nothing to do with like how we came about that and whether we had microphones placed around her house to hear how she says various things. Or just fed it a bunch of movies, right? And trained it on like a bunch of lines of dialogue or whatever. Yeah. And that's the thing. or whatever yeah and that's the thing it's like because these companies are already facing huge lawsuits from like news outlets and other like writers and things because these models are trained on other people's fucking work right so i don't think it's too much of a stretch to think

that maybe scarlet's voice may have actually been involved with this like development of the sky voice also fucking sky scarlet like we're there's just sky is where her character goes at the end of the movie okay i'm just saying connect the fucking dots miles or actually her name is skylight oh it's nothing to do with scarlet it's uh that's where we came up uh wait that just sounds like an australian person saying scarlet shut the fuck up scarlet john stanson skylight jokes dancing yeah that's the full name of her and it has nothing to do with the movie or the actress but yeah i think what's even wilder though is recently sam altman gave this interview where he was asked to predict the future in regards to fucking ai. And just listen to his answer.

He's got some, like, this guy can, like, see the future in, like, new dimensions I didn't even, like, can't even think about. It's crazy. Yeah. So he's being asked by this guy, he's saying, hey, man, so, like, where do you see, like, what jobs do you see becoming, like, actually in demand because of AI? And this is his very fucking groundbreaking answer. That's a great question, and I don't

think I've ever gotten it before. People always ask, like, what job is going to go away? The new one is a more interesting question. Let me think for a second. I mean, there's like a lot of things that I could talk about that I think are sort of less interesting or

less huge. This is such a bullshit wind-up answer. What I'm trying to do is like come up with the areas of like... Killing time. I want to punch him. 100 million people do or 50 million people do. Get to the answer, freak. The broad category of new kinds of art, entertainment, sort of more like human-to-human connection.

I don't know what that job title is going to be, but I think... Friendship? And I don't know if this job title is gonna be but i think friendship and i don't know if this like we get there in five years but i think there's gonna be a premium on like human in-person like fantastic experiences i don't know what we'll call that yeah we'll call that fucking concerts uh sporting events uh magic shows disneyland going I think there's gonna be like I don't know

like really cool thing like premium on like people like sitting around a table and like consuming food together or something you know what I mean

like it's just like really I don't know it's like I'm trying to think like 100 million 50 million that's it like listen to any

like tech person like that they're great at they will compliment the shit out of the interviewer. And then they'll also just like throw out massive numbers at various points. I'm not, I don't want to like talk about the ones that are going to be like small.

I want to talk about the ones, a hundred, 50 million, a hundred million, like 300 million. Get those out of the way. Yeah. His answer reminds me of like back in the world of voting,

like four years ago or five years ago, that's like election cycle. Everyone was talking about relational voting and all relational voting is. It's like when one person talks to their friends about voting and encourages them to vote, but became this like breakthrough cutting edge. Somebody had invented it four years ago. Yeah, relational organizing. Right. four years.

relational organizing. Right. I mean, that's like, that's a really, I mean, it's a brilliant page to take out of these grifters in Silicon Valley because there is so many things of just pivoting and describing something that exists in like these new fantastic terms.

And people are like, oh my God, dude, did you hear what Altman said? Premium in-person fantastic. That's when you're like, dude, cooked man if you're if your brain is boomeranging back to just regular life yeah as you look into your ai future uh that's that's right what's going on in your life yeah like how is ai connected i think that's true i think people will in the future put more of a premium on being together in person.

What the fuck does that have to do with AI whatsoever? The AI will make the experience premium. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Premium in person. Fantastic experiences where you're premium and just so authentic, but so experiential. Yeah. Immersive. I want to look out like. Immersive. I'm not even looking out like 10 years from now. I'm looking like 30, like 10 centuries from now.

Yeah. Okay. And that's what I see right now. People are just going to be yearning for it. You know, this will be after the inevitable resource wars. And we're trying to figure out. When I own all the water. So you'll actually be into whatever the fuck i tell you to be into yeah the uh is that i was just like kind of seeing what they

were saying on the open a i read it and like first there is one person who just quote tweet he was like a thing that i think a lot of people are missing and then like just quoted the thing where he's like, you know, we got a totally different actress who is her own voice. And people are like, uh-huh. Do we have the audio for the voices? No, I was trying to find it this morning. Have you been able to find that? Which one? Like what Sky's voice sounds like?

Oh, yeah. Do we think Sky is related to Sky Rizzy, by the way? Hey voice sounds like oh yeah i mean do we think sky is related to sky rizzy by the way and why hey dad why do so many people like sky rizzy why are so many why is sky rizzy so popular is a question taz that my six-year-old asked me the other day as long as he's not asking you about skibbity boop again skibbity toilet he knows what that is that was what we talked about last time I was on your show. Yeah. Jesus.

Let's see. Let me see if we can hear it here. Hey, ChatGPT. How are you doing? I'm doing fantastic. Thanks for asking. How about you? Pretty good.

What's up? So my friend Barrett here, he's been having trouble sleeping. He's got that rasp. Yeah. You know what I mean? He's got that scargo rasp to it. You know what I mean? Yeah. And just the overall energy

is very similar. It's like a combination of the Her voice and a little bit of Siri mixed in. Yeah, a little bit hyper. Yeah, a little... It's the Her voice on uppers. What if it was a little more

perky? What if it... Yeah, but it's still got that rasp toers. They're like, what if it was a little more perky? What if it... Yeah, yeah, but still got that rasp to let people... It's comforting. Also, a lot of fake legal experts in the subreddit are like, well, it doesn't matter. You can't copyright a voice, so I just wish Scarlett Johansson would just shut up

and stop being mean to Sam Altman. What is that even based on? What logic is that even based on? Can't copyright a voice, so I don't know what you're talking about. And somebody was like, actually, Bette Midler successfully sued the Ford Motor Company

in 1988 because very similar, she was approached to sing in an ad for Ford, said no. Ford got an impersonator instead to sing a Bette Midler song in their ad gotcha fucking audacity amazing yeah yeah i keep trying so we'll see but it is pretty funny that

they are this fucking stupid and uh finally i want to talk about Jesse Waters this seems to be the rhythm of his show over and over again where he like brings somebody on his show mocks them and immediately gets owned by the guest right or he it's usually the usual fox thing where they think they've booked someone who is not intelligent but then

actually knows how to speak very well and just dunks on him. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It feels like his show is structured like the toll booth Willie skit on that Adam Sandler album where like different people just come in and politely tell

him to go fuck himself. And he's just like, fuck you with a polite smile. But yeah, in this case, videos of rage rituals in which women go to the woods and smash things or like shout. How have I as a woman not known about this? Well, you're not on TikTok enough.

Apparently. Because that's where they're going viral. Apparently this is what I have to do on camping. Also, it costs $2,000 to $4,000, these things. Like, I get the catharsis of screaming and getting your frustration out in a very physical way, but to charge people two grand to do that feels a little bit fucking gross. Yeah, where does the money go?

The wellness industry is wild. One day option is $222? What? I'm in the wrong industry. Oh, yeah. Yeah, seriously. Yeah yeah get off these writers groups start doing rage outs with creatives we go to the woods and we throw rocks into a stream and it's like three grand you pay me that's it but jesse waters you could probably predict his objection

which is like what are women so angry about what What are they mad at? Are they mad at me? They're probably mad at me, right? So he dedicated a segment on his show to this trend asking, why are women so mad these days? Gee, how much time do you have, asshole? He said, women are very upset. Why? Mystery. Probably something we did. And then he proceeded to condescendingly interview the self-proclaimed witch, Mia Magic, who runs the retreats. But she was like, hey, I actually read your shitty book over the weekend. I mean, she didn't say shitty. She was like, I read your book over the weekend, man. So I know about you a little little bit so when he balked at the suggestion that men should be more emotionally available and vulnerable magic countered you got a divorce jesse right

i'm sure you had a couple nights where you were sad and where you felt lonely you know i think that everyone needs to feel comfortable to feel which yeah let me say just play the quote because he's really being a smug prick and then just the chest pass right back it's like you're divorced right sad guy yeah you know you're not sad you're saying a lot really fast so we have to write this down you said listening holding listening yeah nurturing these are things women should expect from men bringing nature going out into nature is really great because nature into nature okay listening listening to them holding them taking them on walking like this is the first time he's ever heard am i missing anything asking them what they need for support asking them for support like he's like he's

taking a fucking order like someone's bizarre order At like a restaurant Okay so you want a taking Someone to hear your needs Okay I never heard that one before Alright go on Jesse These are This is big advice Oh that's a deal killer

I think men That's a deal killer You got divorced Jesse right I'm sure you had a couple of nights where you were sad and where you felt lonely. I think that everyone needs to feel comfortable to feel. I'm the most vulnerable man you'll ever meet, but we have to go. You're a good witch. Oh, weird.

We have to go. Oh, okay. Now you have to go? Yeah, yeah. Then he said, you're a good witch. Oh, now we got to go because you're a good witch. Wow. Yeah.

But yeah, it's... He's like, I'm the most vulnerable. How do I get me out of this moment as fast as possible? God. You know he fucking, like, when they, like, wrapped recording, he went to his, like, fucking dressing room and was just, like, looking in the mirror with, like, tears in his eyes. Right. Just smile never breaks.

Ugly cried. But just fucking tears. His veneers crack through the sheer tension in his jaw. You're good, Jesse. You're smiling. Oh, man. Mia Magic, though. Two to four grand. Him always repeating

this same ritual, he probably has a humiliation thing right oh for sure i don't i feel like he was maybe trying not to like have an orgasm during during that part where she was humiliating him yeah i just yeah okay there's so many if you just search jesse waters humiliated it'sated, there's so many things. Whether it's his mom or other guests, whoever come on, there's always something. And he's like, all right.

Thank you. Okay, mom. Good. Good to know. I wonder what his wife is thinking watching this. His ex? His ex. Yeah, his ex-wife.

Ex-wife. That's right. Ex-wife. Ex-wife. Yeah, I don't know. It'swife, that's right. His ex-wife. Ex-wife. Yeah, I don't know. She's not my wife anymore. Oh, Jesus. Wasn't vulnerable.

Hey, dude. Noel Waters. He married her in 2009. Went 10 years. Filed for divorce in 2018. After Waters admitted to an affair with a producer on his show. On his show. Yeah.

Damn, Jesse. Damn, bro. show. On his show. Yeah. Damn, Jesse. Damn, bro. You have written it better. Yeah. I mean. Should have sent a poet. Wow. Vulnerable.

Yeah. Gotta get vulnerable with that, I'm sure. But you know, like in that instance, do you think he really even perceived that divorce as an L? He's like, nah, I found a better one. No, of course not. That I liked more than my wife. I win and she's crying haha Jesse undefeated like that was when he like doubled down into like his like I'm Don Draper type of thing yeah right around that time yeah

huh interesting all right yeah oh he ended up marrying this producer? Oh, he really did the switch. Wait, he admitted to an affair or she admitted to an affair? No, he admitted. He had the affair and now he is married to the person that he had the affair with. Oh, okay. He fully did the Tarzan. He's like, let me grab the next vine and let me let go of the other one. Yeah, yeah. Wow.

I bet he wrote all about it in his book. Yeah. In no way a self-serving account. In no way a self-serving account. In no way a self-serving one-sided account of what happened there, I'm sure. I mean, you know what that book is called? How I Saved the World by Jesse Watt. No, it's not. Is it really?

Yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, boy. Ew. And then he has another one. Get it together. Troubling tales from the liberal fringe. Wow.

Get it together. That's weird. That's his like, where's your son? Yeah. Here's your son. Do you think he talked about the divorce on get it together? Troubling tales from the liberal fringe or how I saved the world?

Cause either one, it's weird. Yeah. Like how I saved the world. I'm like cheating on my wife and marrying this associate producer. Together, Troubling Tales from the Liberal Fringe, or How I Saved the World? Because either one, it's weird. Yeah. Like, How I Saved the World, by cheating on my wife and marrying this associate producer and now having my kids question what their family life is about.

Whatever, it doesn't matter. I'm good. We're good here. We're good here. We're good. We're good. Well, Taz, what a pleasure having you, as always. Where can people find you, follow you,

all that good stuff? Well, I'll be in the forest raging and throwing sticks and getting... Slamming a sand dune with a piece of driftwood. And bear horning bears. Now, actually, I might have a new podcast coming out soon. So keep your eye out on that. I might do something with Jenny Yang. Oh, yeah.

I love Jenny Yang. Very excited about that new project. And you can find me on the internet. It's at Tazzy Star. Spelled like Mazzy Star, but with a T on Instagram and wherever you use social media. And you can get my book. Please

get my book. It's at Large Press and wherever you get your books. Tell us that name one more time. Grasping at this planet just to believe. And we will have that link in the footnotes so yeah if you're interested in that game you will find a way to get it uh just check the footnotes for that thanks for having me this i always love coming on this show i always love having you always good having you miles where can people find you is there a

work of media you've been enjoying what about taz oh yeah and taz is there a work of media that you've been enjoying i mean bridgerton obviously i've been obsessed with bridgerton so that is where my head is right now how many episodes are out i feel like do they put out they did the thing where they put out half the season once and then i basically watched like i think 12 episodes in the past 24 hours. I think that's what's happening. Holy shit. Like, I definitely did a big binge.

Maybe it was like two days. But that's not this season. You're saying like just overall. No, no, I did like season two and season three. Got it, got it, got it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. I did a major catch up.

Yes, yes. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Yeah, find me at Miles of Gray on Twitter, Instagram, wherever they got the at symbol. You can find Jack and I on the Basketball Podcast. Miles and Jack on Mad Boosties. Or we can talk about the NBA playoffs,

because now we've got our conference finals set up. Finals? The Celtics are cakewalking. In it. They're sleepwalking into the finals. And that's okay. And that's okay. You can also find me talking 90.

No, it's not. It's really not. And you can also catch me talking 90 Day Fiance on 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. Don't have a work of social media, but I will say I encourage everybody to watch the Godzilla minus one. If you haven't, it's the again, the way they make it out like a human story, despite it being about Godzilla. It's it's it's wild. It's wild. And I can't stop thinking about it anyway.

That's that's it. And that's it for me on that. And that's all I've got to say about that as miles all the time yep um you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'brien tweet i've been enjoying actually it's a tiktok at trent underscore miller underscore who is a realtor who does like speed tours of houses he Oh, yes. He's just like sprinting from room to room and pointing at things

while having what appears to be a nervous breakdown. Just a lot of fun. And then I'm also enjoying a tweet from Othilius Maximus, who retweeted a video of this katana becomes engulfed in flames when drawn it's a video of somebody pulling a katana out and it like has a bunch of sparks that light it on fire and othelius maximus retweeted that and said this is the type of shit the jizz erupts about uh yeah for real uh you can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.

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on that Facebook page y'all you never know what's gonna pop up there if anything at all but we'll see this track let's go out on this Mike Will Made It featuring Lil Uzi Vert track called Blood Moon that came out last year

I didn't hear it until I saw it like on a Twitter clip of Joe Budden acting like a hater. And then the beat is actually pretty dope. And he's like, wait, actually, this is a fight. I can't help myself. I can't help myself. Music is this is good. It's making my neck

snap. And it will make yours too in the positive way. So again, Blood Moon. Mike Will made it featuring Lil Uzi Furt. Alright, we will link off to that in the footnotes. again, Blood Moon. Mike Will made it featuring Lil Uzi Vert. All right. We will link off to that in the footnotes. The Daily Psychic is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,

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