The Daily Zeitgeist - England’s Absurd Museum Theft, Burger King’s Whopper Lie 08.30.23

Episode Date: August 30, 2023

In episode 1540, Jack and guest co-host Sofiya Alexandra are joined by comedy writer, improvisor, and co-host of Born to Love, Scott Eckert, to discuss…The Chinese Economy And The Dependency Ratio, Burger King Whopper Lawsuit Can Go Ahead, What Goes Around Comes Around: The Great British Museum Theft Scandal and more!  Yi Fuxian, Critic of China’s Birth Policy, Returns as an Invited Guest The Scientist Who Foresaw China’s Stagnation Burger King Whopper Lawsuit Can Go Ahead Burger King Whopper 35 percent smaller than in ads, lawsuit says Burger King must face lawsuit claiming its Whoppers are too small What Goes Around Comes Around: The Great British Museum Theft Scandal British Museum: 'Close to 2,000' artefacts worth millions stolen British Museum bosses first alerted to thefts in 2021 British Museum director resigns, admits to failings in theft investigation Artefacts stolen from British Museum ‘may be untraceable’ due to poor records British Museum Staffer Fired for Lost and Damaged Items Identified as Veteran Curator Peter Higgs Stolen Items from the British Museum Worth $64,000 Offered on eBay for As Little As $51 Stolen British Museum items worth up to £50k offered on eBay for as little as £40 Revealed: Sacked British museum curator's Twitter name is same as ebay seller who flogged 70 items to whistleblower - who now says museum director is 'an idiot who lives on a cloud in cloud cuckoo land' British Museum is world's largest receiver of stolen goods, says QC Fact Sheet: British Museum Collection China Joins a Growing Number of Nations Demanding the British Museum Restitute Artifacts From Its Collection in the Wake of Widespread Thefts Thefts expose British Museum’s ‘ridiculous’ stance on return of artefacts, says MP The British Museum Has Been in Secret Talks with Greece Over the Return of the Parthenon Marbles Will the British Museum give back the Elgin Marbles? History explained The UK Has a 60-Year Old Law Prohibiting Repatriation of Art. Is That About to Change? British Museum chief: taking the Parthenon marbles was 'creative' Greece renews its calls for British Museum to return Parthenon Marbles in wake of priceless thefts British Museum suspect was promoted to job in charge of Elgin Marbles after theft warning LISTEN: Slugs by Slow PulpSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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O'Brien? O'Brien? Yeah, Miles is great. Welcome to the show, the hilarious, the talented, Sophia Alexandra! Oh, my goodness. Thank you so much. And I have a little ditty.

I don't want no subs. Subbing four miles won't get no love for me. Sitting in this podcast chair with my bright pink hair, trying to host T-D-Z. Woo! I thank you so much. I love it. But I think you are doing that and you're going to nail it.

So we do want some subs. You in particular. Welcome. Welcome. Your bright pink hair is amazing. It's looking good. So is your newly found deep voice. Holy shit.

We were talking about this right before. What's up, guys? Sound like I should be on the Rogan Network or something. I was just gonna say that. I was like, are you headlining at the Comedy Mothership this fucking weekend? That's the fucking energy

this bass is giving me. It's commanding respect. That's right. Despite whatever knowledge you may or may not have. Yeah. See, now girl works if you say that. And the spelling automatically changed from G-I-R-L to G-U-R-L as soon as your voice got deep. That's right, girl.

Thank you. I hate it. I hate it. Well, Sophia, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very funny comedy writer, improviser, co-host of the podcast Born to Love with Ellie Kemper on our sister network with Will Ferrell, big money players. Please welcome the brilliant, the hilarious, Scott Eckert! Hello, hello.

I feel like I need to take some deep voice pills now to keep up. I need you down here, man. I need you down here, bro. I'm it all right bro what's good how are you doing down here scott meet me down in the basement brother oh my brother in christ welcome to the rogan uh this is actually a show where we just like recap rogan talk about like all the shit we learned i mean i'm excited to hear about some truth Welcome to the Rogan. This is actually a show where we just like recap Rogan. Talk about like all the shit we learned. I'm excited to hear about some truth.

That's what I want. That's right. Finally. Yeah. But Scott, you are in Los Angeles as well. I am in Los Angeles. Just made it through a tropical storm and an earthquake. Neither of which I really noticed to tell you the truth. I didn't notice at all.

Didn't notice the earthquake. I feel like I'm tempting God, but yeah. But I feel like LA is not going to get the right lesson from all of this because it was a horrible thing that just so happened to bypass us. So I think the lesson was like, oh yeah, we shouldn't prep next time. And I mean, I'm the person that said that. That's definitely the lesson I took from it. So we're good here.

Yeah. I was like, why would I even think about a generator? Who needs to charge? What? Fuck all these once in a millennium weather events. Let's just, we're good.

We're good for another hundred years now. We don't have to worry. We're all set. I thought you were going to say cancel gay marriage is the, is the lesson. Cause I've been listening to Rogan. So that's where my brain went. That's an OG ditty.

I think Pat Robertson wrote that one. Oh, yeah. It is a classic. Well, all right. So we're all in Los Angeles, just separate places in Los Angeles. But it's great to have you all here. Scott, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the people a couple of things we're talking about later on.

Possibly we might be talking about the dependency ratio. I don't know. I wrote a bunch of shit and haven't reread what I wrote. So I don't know. Maybe it will be boring. We'll try it out. But there is a front page article in the New York Times about the dependency ratio, how it is affecting China's economy right now. Hey, Jack, I thought it was pretty interesting.

Hey, all right. I appreciate the work that you did, even though you're sick. I really appreciate that. Thanks so much. We're also going to talk about the Whopper lawsuit. Now, this is more in our wheelhouse. Yes. lawsuit now this is more in our wheelhouse yes like this is i feel like this is suing parents over lying to you about the tooth fairy level shit like this is such a basic lie that i feel

like we had all just kind of accepted when we were very young and you know naive we were just like oh yeah of course they're gonna lie lie about that. No, I fucking disagree. I'm on the opposite side of this. I'm here for it. I'm fucking furious. I love it. I love how much they

just... Somebody had that thought. They were like, this is the time to sue Burger King for taking a picture of the Whopper that somebody had that thought they were like fuck it this is the time to sue burger king for taking a picture of the whopper that doesn't that looks better than it actually is my time to shine finally i've been seething since i first moved to america in 1994 you moved here for the whopper i did i was like the American dream is fucking bullshit. That's the only example of how that's true, though.

Everything else about the American dream, it checks out. Yeah, it was dead on. It was dead on, but the Whopper thing, I will not stand for. We got this one thing to correct, and then we're going to be batting 1,000. Pretty golden after that. Yeah. We might talk about the Great British Museum theft scandal. I think we are going to talk about that. Yes, that's such a fucking good story.

What a story. Shout out to JM, our writer, who put that one together for us. But before we get to any of that bullshit, Scott, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? The very last search that I did just last night was, quote, the Winter Palace Wikipedia, the Tsar's ancient palace. It is the setting of a show on Hulu called The Greats, which is why I was Googling it. And I went in a deep dive on russian history which is always hilarious just like the show i i'm i'm amused by the buffoonery of our our friends from russia i i don't know the story that well

what what was it what was going down in the winter palace is that where what wasn't going down in the winter palace more like jack am i right scott chest bump oh yeah uh well there is one there wasn't anything especially great about the winter palace wikipedia article other than the fact that apparently two i think it was 200 000 people died building it which seems like which seems like it's off by like a factor of 10. Yeah, that seems like a whole city worth of people. I don't know, but did you see it? Pretty fucking worth it. You know what I'm saying?

It looks pretty good. I've never been. There's a thousand or so more in it, and maybe you could get more of those little onion domes everyone seems to love. Oh, yeah. No, the onion domes. Those are classic.

That's classic Moscow. This is St. Petersburg, baby. I know. I just fucking around. I've never been. I've never been to Russia. I studied Russian in college and sucked at it and then stopped. But ever since then.

Like the language? You studied Russian language? Yeah. Хорошо. Хорошо. Добрый день. Wow. The accent on that is not great.

It's not great? I hear I was expecting you to be like, it was fantastic. I got to tread carefully. Sofia, are you from Russia? I'm from Ukraine, but I'm fluent in Russian. Yeah, that's my first language. Do you know what my favorite word in Russian is? No, what?

Kolodilnik. Kolodilnik? It means refrigerator. I know. At least that's what I remember. It's pretty cool. That's a good word so i'm listening to a on audible a two-volume biography of joseph stalin holy shit not a very nice gentleman joseph stalin wait really you're like my fucking grandpa was like those are exactly

the fucking things that would absorb him for hours yes it's it's absorbed it's absorbed me for 80 hours now the steven cox can check it out yeah and there's one left left to come it it ends on a cliffhanger guys hitler's about to invade the soviet union so i can't wait for volume three i think it's gonna work out well I think they're going to beat the Nazis I think there's going to be a lot of unhappiness for decades to come but yeah I think that particular invasion things work out

I think Hitler that guy is just like a flash in the pan like not to ruin it for you I mean he kind of was but you had like a brief rise by the way I feel like you shouting out Rush's word for refrigerator, I feel like the English language really went off

on the word refrigerator. That's pretty good. Like you like it? Maybe there was like a Cold War competitiveness that was happening there, but refrigerator is, yeah, i kind of like it that's a cool word yeah it sounds like a brand name or something like it sounds like it was workshopped right sounds like it has a motor yeah yeah yeah you know what i'm saying yeah just sounds like

it makes cold well that's what it means right it doesn't mean cold or something yeah yeah yeah yeah but i just mean i feel like refrigerator doesn't make you think of cold it makes you think of a motor yeah we keeping it cold frigid it says to me thrown frigid in there which is a a good evocative way to word for cold so i don't know i think they really, I think they saw what Russia was doing and was like, we got to do better than ice chest, which I think was what they called it for a long time.

I love ice chest, though. Automatic ice chest. Ice chest has like a chalice vibe. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, it does. You know, like I'm going to sit on my ice chest with my chalice of mead.

Yes. My favorite Russian word, Borgia Kirovka. It is how you say ladybug. And it means God's little cow. And I'm obsessed with it. What? Isn't that the cutest thing you've ever heard? Are you just dying right now?

I'm dying every time I think about it. God's little cow. Yeah. How cute is that? look at that little guy so fucking cute and also not gendered the way that ours or i guess it is no it's gendered it is because cows are girlies yeah yeah uh never mind i'm against it god's little cow is so cute i always thought that like if i was going to be somebody that opened a kindergarten or something, that's what I would call it.

God's little cow? I'd be like, that is the cutest. All of the kids are going to go here. That's amazing. Like a preschool, a ladybug preschool, but there's probably many of them. It really works. I think it's a great name. Thank you so much, Scott.

Scott, what is something you think is overrated? Massages. I do not like giving massages and I do not like receiving massages. They make me feel intensely uncomfortable. And the fact that so many people love them so much is a total mystery to me. Have you ever had a good one? I think I've had some some good ones. Yeah, like on my honeymoon, an expensive couples massage in like Greece or whatever that we paid lots and lots of money for. I found it uncomfortable and akin to torture the entire time. Well, money's not really how you judge it because anyone can just be like oh you're in a hotel fucking pay me a thousand dollars to touch you that didn't come

out right but um i just kind of want to know do you get like the light kind do you get the deep kind and do you think when they touch you it's like too much pressure or too little or do you just not like people touching you i i yeah it's all of the above. I've tried more than once. I've had the light massages. I've had those deep tissue massages that leave you feeling ill for days. Anytime they warn you ahead of time, like, oh, hey, you're going to just feel sick and stuffed up for the next 48 hours because we're going to rub so many toxins out of your flesh and send it coursing through your your system out of your nose and you're supposed to drink a lot of water so oh they do tell you that i'm not no one no one ever does myself included

and then you're like why do i feel not nice i'm like well bitch they told you. I like to go from massage directly to just drinking a train of cold brew. Oh, my God. You're the healthiest. That's how that voice came around. That's right. And that's why I sound like this. Scott, I think it's bold of you to admit that you hate massages because I think a ton of people do, but they won't say anything because they're like, people think I'm insane. It's like when someone says they don't like guacamole.

Yeah. Well, I mean, it's a little more selfish to say you hate giving massages. I think that's probably more. Yeah, no, you're a piece of shit for that. You're a total piece of shit for that. You're never going to come back to this podcast for that. What is it? A massage giving?

When is it okay to be annoyed? Like how many minutes? What is a massage giving? When is it okay to be annoyed? How many minutes? Because for me, it's less than one minute. You can feel when the person giving it is annoyed. So it's always been bad, even that three minutes that they give. And I'm like, you know what? Take your fucking lobster ass hands out of here.

I don't need this pity massage they're just giving like mitten style massages with all four fingers together and then yeah fucking zoidberging my fucking neck i don't want that fuck that scott is that your style to do a bad job so you're just out of there i mean i try my best but i promise it's bad that's so you're just out of there? I mean, I try my best, but I promise it's bad. That's, I mean, I fuck no matter what. I'll give it my absolute all and will still disappoint. And then the annoyance will come through.

So, I mean, maybe that's at the heart of why I don't like them because I've never really had a good experience either as a giver or a receiver. But no, it's just not my thing. Are you an expert massage giver? Would you say? Yeah, I'm awesome. I have the hands of a construction worker,

but the gentleness of an angel of one of God's little cows. Exactly. Yeah. I, yeah, I, I like giving and receiving. Hell yeah, Jack.

I was complimented in the past year that I received massage well from somebody. Ooh. And I took that. I was like, I didn't know I needed to hear that about myself. But it really meant a lot. What does that possibly mean other than making noises? Just really receptive, encouraging noises. Being like, that is the spot.

How did you know? You're a vocal groaner, Jack. It's an older woman. That's the nicest way to say you're a vocal groaner, Jack. She's really sweet. She gives my wife and I massages. And I think she just likes us. And so she comes up with ways to compliment us.

But you're right. It doesn't make sense for that to be a skill that somebody has. But I totally took it to heart. I was like, yes. Did she pay the same compliment to your to your wife yeah she loves my wife i mean she's giving my wife every single compliment in the world maybe she's running out and that's why she's like you're taking this massage your husband did a good job taking a massage from me she's taking a massage sounds like so domi like yeah yeah of her like yeah he takes that massage

good you take that don't you yeah exactly scott what's something you think is underrated the beach the beach okay we get a lot of on this show we get a lot of the beaches overrated so this is this is an important moment for this show to have somebody on to speak on behalf of the beach Scott the floor is yours there's beach haters out here there's Ken who's just like my job is beach

and people are beach haters I fucking cannot Scott tell us more we're lucky enough to live in Los Angeles with some of the most beautiful beaches in the world and and here's the dirty secret i never go i lived i lived 12 minutes from the santa monica like beaches like the like the heart of beach town la and i have not been all summer long and my are you really a beach lover then this well this is exactly what i'm saying i am underrating the beach and then when i go i'm like holy shit guys guess what the beach

is amazing it's 75 it's 75 and sunny there's the the the ocean is is one of the most majestic creations in all of nature. You stand in water. You stand next to the biggest thing on planet Earth in Los Angeles. And you're just looking out at the biggest thing on Earth. That's exactly right. And it exerts its force on you. You go inside it. It rolls over you.

You're overwhelmed and delighted by the sound, right? That white noise of the waves. rolls over you you're you're you're overwhelmed and delighted by the sound right that that that white noise of the there's some wild ass sounds on the on like southern california beaches sorry go when we edit this episode can we just take out the part by itself and make it go viral because it will absolutely of scott giving this impassioned, yelling, delightful speech about how much he loves the beach. It's truly one of God's like most delightful things since like the double rainbow guy. We need this out in the world. Yes.

Well, it's 100% sincere, guys. I mean, I'm a fool. Every single time I have the same reaction and I never follow through. I turn to my wife and i say we should do this all the time i say to myself you know what i'm gonna come this week i'm gonna get in my car while my kids are at school i'm gonna bring my laptop i'm gonna bring a chair i'm gonna sit and i'm gonna i'm gonna do whatever work needs to be done email writing whatever and i'm gonna do it in paradise and i i've lived here for eight years now i've never once followed through

and done that but i should yeah why are we not all doing that i don't know it's a mystery always at the beach there are people and their beach towels and their beach chairs not far from where we were sitting who have paid god knows how much money in airfare and hotels to have this experience that is at our fingertips and i don't take advantage of it. So that's why I think that it's underrated. Yeah. I totally, when I moved,

when I was like moving out to Los Angeles, I was like, I am going to be surfing to work every morning. That's how I'm going. That is going to be my primary mode of conveyance is surfing around. And then when I'm not surfing, I will be in line skating on the the boardwalk at the venish venice yeah venish yeah that's i used to live in russian literally like

half a block from the beach in venice like one of on one of those little walk streets yeah and it was like the best fucking experience of my life because that is the only time i've not taken the beach for granted you know you literally walk out barefoot out of your house in a towel with your neighbors you just walk down to the sand with like the shit you bring from your house and then you're just like there we lived on the last street before venice uh so we were kind of venish we weren't quite in Venice, but we were Ven-ish. Yeah. Sorry. Okay, go ahead. No, that's all. I was just going to say that's the only time I've not disrespected the beach. Now I'm like 15 minutes away and like I definitely do

not go nearly as often as I should. So yeah, I'm 45 minutes away. But I yeah, I flew all the way across the country to go swim in the atlantic ocean like the you know my my parents live by the atlantic ocean went in every morning was like this is the best and then came back haven't even thought about going to the beach since i've been back so uh the the pacific is a little cold i will say that it's being inside the pacific and having it roll you around in in los angeles is just is a little bit chilly but and i'm baby so don't let the voice don't let the voice fool you i am baby i am deep voice baby i'm deep voice baby is that um i'm with you uh i need to like just be in the sun for so long that it's unbearable.

And then I'll go in the water. There you go. And then I'm cool. And then I'm like, okay, well, I can't get out. Because if I get out, then getting back in is going to be torture again. And so I just stay in the water for as long as I can. I like it when the waves hit me. That's real nice.

But you can't swim or do shit out here. Because like, you know know i grew up on the in odessa on the black sea swimming in the sea you can actually swim it's like lovely and so warm wait what's the difference between their sea and the pacific ocean it's just more calm or more warmer calmer warmer yeah i like to i like to go to the Atlantic Ocean and body surf, but I feel like you try and body surf in the Pacific and you're going to get put in the spin cycle. Is that what surfers call it? Anyways.

I don't know the terms, but that sounds right. Yeah. It'll be bad and all the surfers will make fun of me. That'll be the number one thing. They won't let me into their bank robbing gang victor just said the current put in the spin cycle uh the current i believe thank you so much the current there's a slang term victor for like when you get like you you know, flipped upside down by a wave. And I believe I've heard it referred to as the spin cycle.

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iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And there's a lot of news. We're mainly a U.S. news zeitgeist. We're mainly a U.S. news zeitgeist, but I'm seeing a lot of news of late that China's economy is stalling. And the New York Times had a piece today blaming it on demographics do think it's like one of my, if this show had a like overrated, I feel like that that would be

one of the things that we underrate, I guess, about explaining why things are the way they are in the world is this thing called the dependency ratio it's not like controversial most people are like yeah yeah no that's true that's why things work that way but like it immediately gets lost because it takes all of the like personality and like personal responsibility out of like america having a good economy and just like breaks it down into a story of like demographics. And everyone's like, no, we're, we have money because we're best. We're, we're good people and we work hard. But basically the idea of the dependency ratio is that you put all the people in your country that are working age, like that are, you know, able to work on one side of a scale, all the people who are either too young or too old to work on the other side of the scale.

And when the people who are of working age outweigh the people who are not who can't work by a lot you have a really strong economy basically it it breaks down into the supported and the supporters exactly and if you have too many people on this people who are supported side and not enough people who are the supporters then the economy it does not do well and things don't recover well. So I actually want to relate this a little bit to, as you know, I'm an unofficial ambassador to Paris. But, you know, the protests, I was there when they started. And it's about, you know, raising the retirement age. And it's precisely because of the dependency ratio. There's not enough people working to take care of the people that are trying to retire. So

they're like, hey, can we push the age back two years to make up for the gap? Yeah, dependency. So yeah, that's all. Just wanted to bring in just a little correspondent situation. Oh, that was good. That's a great example. It's better than that. It's good in this news podcast to have a example from the news. I didn't bother to write. And I was like, hey, here's a New York Times article that reminded me of a thing I know. Anyways, and the article is interesting because it's like, first, let me summarize what's going on with the economy based on all the writing. And the summary is all like the real estate market has turned down. They mentioned this poetic turn of phrase of the Chinese are calling the sense of national stasis, naewon, which translated to life twisting inward without real progress. which translated to life twisting inward without real progress and i feel like that's just the state of the world right now and it kind of like pierced me deeply in my heart when i read that i was like jesus fucking christ damn you nailed how everybody and everything in the world currently

is holy fuck yeah just life twisting inward like a snail shell and no forward momentum whatsoever. But yeah, for all of that and all the explanations they give, they ultimately come back to this guy who's been looking at the demography, like the demographics of China, and is like, hey, this is going to be bad fairly soon. Like, A, this is going to be bad, like fairly soon. And the thing that has driven China's really powerful economy for the past handful of decades is the same thing that's going to make them go off this demographic cliff. Because basically...

One child policy. The one child policy, yeah. So they had a one child policy the one child policy yeah so they had a one child policy and as when they had that they had all these people who were going through the working age you know a ton of people that they had they made the one child policy because their population was going up so fast so they had like a massive baby boom essentially and as that massive baby boom was going through the like working age they were in great shape and not only that but they also had a small amount of dependence because they had instituted this one child policy and just like the commitment to the workforce was like

artificially strengthened because you have only one kid and it's easier to just go back to work yeah yeah i think there's a lot of reasons it like made a lot of sense but now they're hitting the point where that big like baby boom that made them put the one child policy into place in the first place is going to start retiring and the only people left to work are going to put the one child policy into place in the first place is going to start retiring and the only people left to work are going to be the one child policy babies like the like government mandated only children and they're like they they kind of got a sense that this was going to happen and this was bad and so they've like tried to get people to start fucking again but it's just it hasn't worked like it that they are still like their procreation number or whatever is like

one point something it's so the pot the the population is like shrinking so i don't know this just it feels like such a massive idea that is like such a clear you know it explains so much economic success and like so much of like what happened in the 20th century and like beginning of the 21st century but the u.s like never really it like never sticks that the baby boomers are so selfish that they like want they this takes away some of their like personal agency for having like created America's economic success because it's just like now you just happen to be like part of this weird like demographic blip of like the baby boom. And so like but if you look at the baby boom. But if you look at The baby boomers make it part of their identity. Right.

They are what made America work right. Yeah. And it's just like, no, there's just too many of you. It's bad, ultimately, but it was good for these 30 years. And also, it's interesting ultimately, but it was good for these 30 years. we want our social security and we want all of this stuff without ever thinking about their kids or like the world they're leaving behind i think like that self-centeredness i guess is what i was

gonna say i think yeah is like across the board yeah like getting back to china just for a second i agree that that we're in it's like a ticking time bomb the whole baby boom generation like we've been talking about it's like oh no as they age we're we're fucked but like you were talking about how the one child policy screwed over china i'm not sure if it was in that new york times article jack but another big demographic problem with that is that when you're only allowed to have one child and there is sort of cultural sexism that's so deeply ingrained yeah totally a disproportionate amount of the of the single children the only children were were boys yeah now there's literally decades worth of of adult male chinese men and there are like a there's a lack of partners for them. There's not enough women to go around. All this jizz with nowhere to go.

All this jizz just dying to burst into the world. But in a literal way, right? Literally. And I think the last time the article that I read about this, this is not from this morning, but this is more recently, not more recently than this morning, but in the recent past,

is that the only similar sort of demographic imbalance in history is the wild west when like a bunch of pioneers and cowboys and shit went out west and there was just like you know way more way more men than women and like i don't know if you guys are familiar with wild west stories but um there's a lot of fighting really fun right there's a lot of a lot of violence a lot there's a lot of fighting. Really fun, right? There's a lot of violence. There's also a lot of raping. Yeah. Because if there's not enough women to go around,

you're not going to be like, oh, m'lady, would you like the choice of all of the things? It's going to be like, mine! But think about all the great inventions that we got from the Wild West. Like the saloon with a spittoon in every corner like just hell yeah those doors that swing open when you kick them the doors that you can see the bottoms and the tops like the they're just the midway doors those are pretty the least the least

effective doors ever invented right they don't they don't trap heat or cold no they don't block anyone's sight they don't lock actually when they don't lock wind goes right through even if they did lock you could crawl right under yeah that's the caliber of uh humanity that you're getting with a wild west type society yeah and also you know like we don't really know the real numbers of any of this right because china is all internally reported yeah fundamentally lies about everything and like when i was there the guy that was like our guide you know was telling us like we were driving by like all of these high rises that are just fucking empty as fuck. Empty, yeah. And we were like, what is this? And he's like, oh, well, like to artificially inflate stuff

and to have job growth and creation or whatever, they're like having people build these giant high rises, but like no one can actually afford to live in them. So they just stand there empty, but like they just keep building new ones. And he says like American companies come through and they like film like post-apocalyptic stuff there yeah hell yeah just the most insane fucking combination of random ass things where you're like what the fuck yeah and then i was asking him about like car accident rates because i was like damn like i can't believe like all of

this works because i'm watching people speed around and like, you know, on motorbikes and balancing babies and wives and like baskets of things. And like, and no one gives a fuck about the rules. Like, but somehow it still works. I was like, but are there a lot of accidents? Like, what are the accident rates? And he kind of laughed and he was like well nobody really knows he's like yeah we think we wouldn't know what they are because like to look good you would make them be a good amount like it's just how it works he said like one time there was an accident and like like a train accident and

like a collision and hundreds of people died but they just like buried the train with the people in it yeah what yeah so the bad look nobody wants to be like yeah something happened with these trains they're just like what train so i'm just saying like we don't even know the extent of this problem it could be so much worse well that's what he's saying he's saying that a lot of this shit is like turning bad earlier than anyone was expecting other than him. So he wrote a book called Big Country with an Empty Nest in 2007, and it was immediately banned by the Chinese government. But people were like, this seems interesting. And he was predicting everything that's currently happening due to the one child policy. But by 2013, Chinese authorities were like,

hey, you seem smart, actually. And they had, like, started rethinking the one-child policy. And now... I've had one of my trademark changes of heart. Yeah, exactly. By the way, speaking of demographics and sex, of, like, the breakdown of sex, the, like, another thing that drove the american baby boom is that like so the baby boom started entering the workforce in like force in like 66 and reached the peak of everybody

who was part of the baby boom was working age in 1982 and everybody whose baby boom was in the workforce through 2006 to 2011, depending on when they were retiring. But that was also a time when women were more and more able to be part of the workforce. And so you're letting the smartest adults now get to work instead of not getting to work like so i think i think that also was like a massive help when it came to the u.s like yeah it seems to me it seems to me that that like it definitely helps the economy when a a whole shitload extra people start working and and b oh half of the population is allowed to join in like yeah you're untapped talent you would expect a productivity boost from from changes like those and and we got one yeah yeah so but anyways i mean the u.s is hitting you know it's they started like the baby boom generation started aging out around 2006 to 2011, and you might recognize that as a time where the economy started to stagnate a little bit.

But the U.S. didn't have this natural demographic. Isn't that when the bad stuff started happening with Britney Spears? I'm just saying. Yes. Well, right. That's the third part. That's the sliding doors moment. If she hadn't had that conservatorship or whatever. I'm not saying causation. I'm just saying correlation, guys. But the U.S. doesn't

have this unnatural demographic cliff that they're going over. They're going to be getting slightly worse over the next handful of decades. Right. It'll be more like Europe and Japan. Right. Because they preceded us in exactly this sort of dependency ratio because they have Europe and Japan had fewer kids historically than we have.

And now we're catching up our declining birth rates and immigration because it's a problem. Immigration. That's what I was going to say. The other thing is like we have constantly an influx of new people because of immigration. Yeah. Immigration is the thing that saves America from. Yeah. Yeah.

And despite the fact that fucking every fucking conservative Republican person is so shitty about it, it's like without immigration, this place would truly die. Right. Well, they think they can just like magically make America like baby boom generation. Like they want to believe that it was just like

through sheer tyranny of will and like American values that they had success and that they can just like magically make America great again by if like just if everyone would just listen to them and like the their primary like policy objective is to like end immigration which would be the

exact opposite of like it's the one thing that's going to make america viable going forward but they want to they want to end that shit so anyways turns out donald trump kind of an idiot we've never said that i'm sorry racist and short-sighted i'm sorry i didn't agree to be i didn't agree to come on a show that would say such things crazy i couldn't even finish that all right uh Let's take another quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk Whopper and we'll talk the Great British Museum theft. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church.

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double the meat no how do you know the how do you know the buns just aren't bigger in the i just don't understand like from a legal perspective from like a logical argument perspective how this lawsuit would break down can't they just be like yeah no we use smaller buns for the for the ads no because if they already measured the meat and they're telling you that the meat is half of what it should be that's a real problem for me i'm sorry right you're no and i also have to say like it just contributes to like america's like problem with like lying about size and it's like we don't really need to do that you know what i'm saying it's like it encourages bad lying not just like penis size obviously but like height and stuff. It's like all of it. I'm like, please stop man bumbling me.

Yeah. That's why you always want your dating profile picture to like have something for scale in it. Right. One hundred percent. And but that's what like that's what I don't understand. Stand next to a ruler. Stand next to a ruler. Just like be standing under a basketball hoop or something

like and that this just like the pictures that they're you have to be dunking if you're not dunking in your photo i don't know how tall you are uh no but i just care about the lying jack okay did you imagine going on a dating site and not being able to dunk i know embarrassing embarrassing um you know i taught myself how to dunk before i started dating i'm not a fucking i know how to be out of dunk i had to i'm not gonna be out here in these streets dunkless are you serious come on but i'm serious okay this is my final point my only point about the whopper situation which is why lie about your size like i don't care if you are five seven or a tiny burger just tell me what you are white castle it white castle out here proud being like

these are tiny shitty burgers yeah that are addictive as hell do you want a million of them and we're all like yes yes we do thank you for telling us they're small and terrible we love that about it so why are is whopper out here being like oh i have a big title i'm a whopper and you're just sneaking in with half the meat get out of here sorry i was really passionate about it no that was we're all taken aback it's hard to it's hard to disagree i mean my take on this is maybe a little more boring like okay i get it truth and advertising i'm not especially upset about it i'm not especially surprised by it what i think is so ludicrous is that it takes like some elaborate class action lawsuit to remedy this like why is there not just shouldn't they

just shouldn't the government just like find them? Shouldn't it just be like, oh no, you lied. Like, isn't there like a simpler, more streamlined way to do this? Isn't there a burger department, burger size department? The burgers are. The false ad, a burgers are.

I mean, I wouldn't be against it. I don't want to, you know, I guess that people argue about the size of government, but a burgers are seems like a pretty cool job. That could just be my fascination with Russian czars creeping in. But I mean, if you are going too fast on the highway, right? They just pull you over and they give you a fucking ticket. It isn't an attorney who is coming up with a class of drivers

who have been threatened and harmed by someone speeding too fast. Just self-evidently wrong. The process is crazy. I don't. That's what was confused me about this whole Whopper thing. Although, you know, God bless them. Good luck getting getting me a free like coupon because that's going to be the outcome of all of this. Yeah, it's that.

the outcome of all of this. That, and they're going to maybe actually show the real-ass sized burgers in the ads, which will be hilarious. I feel like they'll just change the... Because they are so small and not good. They're not going to make them be meatier. That's ridiculous.

They'll just change the bun size. That's the solution to this whole thing. But it doesn't matter. It's about how much meat they say that they have. I mean, here's the thing. It's just the pictures, right? The fact of the matter is, I think you may disagree with me on this, Sophia. Whoppers are great.

They're great. It's not going to change anyone's buying behavior. It's just that the pictures they took made them look a little too big. So, yeah, stop taking silly pictures and give me a coupon they're also shooting them from a low angle somehow I'm being burger fucking fished

you're burger fishing me and you're telling me to accept it Scott and I fucking refuse I'm not telling you to accept it at all I'm on your side I think that they should be punished and I think the pictures should be more truthful but don't the pictures

the pictures of the whopper also like the main issue with them is that it is taken from the perspective of a person who is one and a half inches tall standing in front of a burger like that

it's Ant-Man standing in front of a burger like that no they're so sick like you are so yeah it's standing in front of a little burger and that's that's why where most of the illusion is coming from now i know how this lawsuit's gonna end they're gonna add a sentence in the tiniest white font on all of the ads that says the portrayal of the burger in this ad is from the perspective of a one and a half inch person. Yeah, I think that's what is tricking people. Because they do that, you know, on makeup ads. You guys probably don't know that. But like, so before and this I think is important to people who use mascara. So everyone who uses mascara is going to be like, yes, I'm pretty mad about it, too.

So they used to do these ads where like it'd be people putting on mascara and they'd be like look at my huge ass lashes and you'd be like wow cool your mascara really works yeah and people were like hey you can't just like have people have fake lashes and then be like wow this mascara really works like you can see that like that's that. Like that's pretty fucked up. That's pretty fucked up. So now when they have those ads at the bottom, they have to say like, and they do these lashes. There's, I've been enhanced with the fake lashes or whatever.

So now you just know you're being lied to every time. Yeah. Welcome to America. There you go. Well, that's it. Just, it feels very like quaint and adorable.

This lawsuit. Like, it's just like we needed a little break. One of the first things that I was like, I just accepted that I was being lied to about is advertising like looks better than the actual thing. Like, I think it was the very first toy that I bought. the very first toy that I bought. And it was like, in the commercial, like, there's dry ice fog floating in as they, like, play with Skeletor's castle and, like, just amazing, like, actual moats

dug into this, like, styrofoam, like, land that they've created around this. And, you know, and then I get it home, and it was still an awesome toy, but it wasn't as cool as what it looked like on the TV. The Hot Wheels wasn't like burning rubber. No, yeah, it didn't burn rubber. Just like electric guitars fucking everywhere.

The micro machines you still speak at normal speed. Yeah, unfortunately, yeah. I do feel like dry ice really, like if they're if they could create a safe version of dry ice for children to play with really adds a lot of atmospheric. It makes anything cool as hell. Really does. Dry ice, mini fog machine, whatever, whatever they need to do. Drop some dry ice in a bath while you're taking a bath. Holy shit.

That is the most metal thing I've ever heard of in my life yeah i don't even have any idea what would happen would you die would it explode what would happen it would just slowly melt but while it's melting i think it would like melt a little bit and there would be like some fog just sitting on top on the surface of your bathtub that would be so cool i think i don't know don't do it at home with with a child but i will do it on my own adult body you do whatever the fuck you want actually don't don't listen to me yeah all right should we talk about the british museum like this yes we've talked about like england's little problem with going around stealing the worth or stealing like the greatest cultural treasures of every other country in the world and just you know the the british museum is the most famous tourist attraction

grotesque monument to colonial wealth in a place that is kind of famous for that. But they are now the victim of theft, and it's a major scandal in the UK. 2,000 treasures worth millions of pounds have seemingly been stolen from the British Museum's collection, and a leading expert in looted antiquities told the BBC the number of objects lost from the museum was mind-blowing which is not a phrase I expected an expert in looted antiquities to use but I mean the only expert in looted antiquities that I know is Indiana Jones Indiana Jones that's right yeah he waited on the expert in looting them yeah yeah I just want to say that like first off that's a problem with like so many museums essentially like so much of the art is stolen yeah and so much of it belongs to completely different if we started distributing

it back that would change literally the gdp of so many countries yeah can't have that the museum gdp yeah like no just like so much tourism people are coming to see all of this stuff and it's all like concentrated in places that colonial that are colonialist fucking like you know yeah war chests or whatever the fuck and it's not like they've been asking can't even display ever all of it yeah Yeah. So the amount of greed is insane. Yeah. Yeah. So the museum was actually, because we're going to get to that, because people have been asking for it back.

And this is giving them a new reason to be like, hey, you guys don't even know where the shit is that you stole from us. Like, what the fuck? You don't even know how to plunder right yeah you don't like you can't keep track of your booty what the hell is wrong with you the museum was warned about the fact that like they were being robbed blind back in 2021 by an art dealer and the museum blew him off and ignored the warnings the reason that the person had a sense that they were being robbed is that their shit kept showing up on ebay so this made me furious because the opening bids were like 50 and no one fucking bid and it's because no one on fucking ebay understands what

this is like again you don't even uh this is upsetting. It's like all of this could have just been given to the fucking people it belongs to. No one even wants it on stupid eBay, you fucking assholes. God, I'm so mad. So the museum fired prominent curator Peter Higgs, seemingly believing him to be the thief, which he denies. But the...

The evidence, though. Yeah, the evidence is crazy. First of all, they started showing all these things that were under his purview, that he was curating, kept showing up on eBay, and the eBay seller's name was the same as Higgs' Twitter account. My man did not bother to make up a new handle his paypal was linked to a bank account in the name of peter higgs he is just out here signing his stealing yeah like fucking rules he left a note being like, XOXO Peter Higgs. Yeah. Like, what?

It's totally insane. If I was a looted antiquities dealer, I might borrow his handle and use it as my eBay handle as a way of, you know, getting Scotland Yard off my tracks. But when the PayPal account is linked. To his. Yeah, exactly. It's like, well, wait a minute but we have a electronic record of you're receiving the money then then i think that that's where it breaks down his first response was probably how stupid do you think i am like that i would just like use the same twitter account so in 1966 you mad man and then they're like oh also we got like you're selling it and it's like the money's

going directly into your bank account and every time it does like we hear your phone make a little sound uh we've been tracking that the whole time we've been having this meeting anyways the museum museum itself is like the largest collection of stolen shit like stolen property and it like most of it's not even on display first of all just one percent so they have eight million yeah that's one of the things that i'm incredibly furious about right so only one percent of the stuff is like in their possession eight million objects and they are able to show 80,000 objects in total, which is like a lot. That's a big ass museum. But they've got 8 million.

But you could literally, even if you were still going to be a person that is a plunger that was going to keep stuff, you could literally keep that collection and give the rest of it away and still have a giant museum of stolen stuff.

Yeah. It's totally wild. I just this summer went to the British Museum with my family and had a revelation about museums. Because this doesn't have anything to do with ethics, guys. This has got to do with museum design. Because the British Museum, it only has 1% of its items, yes. But it also, like you said, has 80,000. Here's

my take on that. Too many. Too much shit. Too fucking big. That's how I feel about the Louvre. I also went to... I'm like, how many fucking Jesuses can I really need? Do I really need to see? You're exactly right. And here's the counter example. If you go to see

the crown jewels, right? i'm not a big jewel fan also those jewels totally stolen not any ethically better here here's the thing you walk into a room there's fucking one thing they're like this is king charles's old crown and everybody looks at it's like oh okay and then you go into the next room and it's got like three scepters and it's like eight rooms big. Each thing has a manageable number of things. You're in and out in 20 minutes. It's my favorite museum in all of Europe.

You just do some selecting, do some editing for me as a museum goer. Yeah. It's like a fucking massive, like uncoordinated playlist where it's just like the shit just like... Chaos, just chaos. Chaos. Just it's like a fucking massive, like uncoordinated playlist where it's just like the shit, just like chaos, just chaos, chaos. Just it's like, yeah, like the artists think about the artists who originally made that. And it's like, yeah, you're going to be on the wall next to like three other paintings that you like don't even exist when you when you're painting this one or you've just like never heard of.

And like people are I don't know. Yeah, it's a it's a fucking mess. Don't even exist when you're painting this one. Or you've just never heard of them. People are... I don't know. Yeah, it's a fucking mess. Well, I also want to say that this reminds me of this. The New Yorker did a profile on Gagosian super recently. That was, by the way, Chef's Kiss. Amazing fire. Do you know who he is?

He's the biggest art dealer. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's like the biggest art dealer like oh yeah gallery yeah he's kind of like the art dealer guy but he sells like art from the wealthy to the wealthy and basically has artificially changed the art market forever to where now things are worth millions of dollars that like you know weren't before and some of it is like obviously good for an artist but it's it's all artificial he controls the market essentially but what i want to say is all of these rich people that buy these incredible like basquiat's these incredible like paintings that we you know would cry like i cried when i saw basquiat

paintings in real life like things that would change people's lives to look at you know where most of them sit they sit in a temperature controlled warehouse in switzerland yeah where these rich people's planes just like come come drop them off and like leave forever and then when these rich people kind of sell to each other it's like it just goes from one place in that warehouse to another yeah and that's it and no one ever ever sees that art and i feel like this is exactly that same vibe it's like you just want to own it to say that you own it to feel like you're something and to keep it from other people to keep it from being seen that to me is like that's anathema like you're something and to keep it from other people to keep it from being seen that to me is like that's anathema like you can't do that art is the whole point of it is to be

enjoyed yeah and the amazing thing is that like yeah so the world just like spreading that eight eight million objects out across like the original nations where they were made you know like this is going to be such a better like the world will be a more beautiful place and exactly the entire argument for like why they have it is like obviously completely insulting and like unbelievable that it was ever the argument but now it's like completely you know upended which they were like the their reason for not returning the shit up to this point is that other countries would either not be able to care take care of them or uh they would likely be stolen which obviously doesn't hold much water when you've got people in this

country putting them on ebay the call is coming from inside the fucking house so it's really like just uh hartwig fisher one of the like main heads of the thing who they were like hey i'm pretty sure this is like one of your one of yours and someone just sold it on ebay and he just ignored them for a couple years resigned in disgrace but he argued that the removal and exhibition of these greek marbles was the elgin marbles was itself a creative act in its own right it wasn't stealing it was like art the way that they took it and put my man just bank seat try to bank see his way out of stealing and selling yeah cultural fucking artifacts on ebay get out of here yeah and the guy who was selling all the shit on ebay was in charge of the elgin marbles at the time of

everybody discovering this shit so and also when peter higgs, right, he got rehired immediately. Yeah. Right. And like, was just in charge of some other art. Yeah. So like, there's no consequences for these fucking guys. But yeah, it's almost like these institutions are elitist or something.

Almost. Almost. Well, Scott, truly a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, you hear you all that good stuff well the thing that is probably best for people to check out is a podcast called born to love that i co-host with ellie kemper each week we bring on celebrity guests to talk about something that they were born to love usually not related to

their jobs so we had al roker to talk about how he loves barbecue, Kristen Schaal talking about how she loves close up magic. My favorite was Zach Cherry. He is a very funny actor, comedian, and his and what he was born to love is watching cable TV in hotel rooms. So it's a it's a fun, it's a fun, eclectic podcast. I hope you check it out. I'm on Twitter at me, scottecker.com, but nobody follows me, so there's no reason for you to. I don't know. That's not true.

Go check them out. Yeah. Following you immediately. And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying by any chance? Well, I don't know if this counts as a work of media, but I have just gotten into, just this week the new york times short crossword which is a tiny little crossword i hate long crosswords because i'm not smart enough to do them but uh in the four or five that i've done this

week they make me feel smart because it's like oh i can fill out this eight question crossword. You just changed my motherfucking life. I did not know about this. It's pretty fun. There's a little timer for how fast you can do it because the assumption is that pretty much everyone's going to be able to do it. And so far, it's worked out great for me. It's five minutes.

It's even less frustrating than Wordle. So New York Times crossword. Short crossword. Is it daily, Scott? great for me it's five minutes it's even less it's less frustrating than wordle so new york times crossword short crossword is it daily scott i believe it's daily yes daily yeah it's a blast are you a short crossword aficionado jack i like a i like a short crossword i like a wordle i would i like the monday crossword puzzle the monday easiest one. The easiest. It's so easy. It's so fun. But how long does it take you? Because it would probably take me half an hour.

It takes me like 14, 15 minutes somewhere in there. That's a reasonable period of time. This short crossword thing's opened my eyes because if there were

other games and activities that took less than five minutes, like if I could just play a five minute game of basketball yeah i think i'd be playing a lot more basketball i think they should just do that that should be what the nba is from now on just five minute sprint to like whoever can get to 10 first amazing sofia such a pleasure having you as guest co-host. Where can people find you follow you? Uh,

I am at the Sophia. So F I Y a, um, on Twitter and Instagram. And of course you can listen to me and miles, who is currently in Italy. Are we ever, are we revealing that? I don't know don't know oh he had he already revealed it on 420 okay good all right do you want me to say a different version so that you can edit it out

i will say no no i think just in case i mean i'm not trying to blow up his spot he played the fucking theme music of him going to italy yeah like i'm pretty sure the genie's out you simply must yeah he might have actually mentioned it on this show i just but yeah i appreciate you caring for him but once he brought the soundboard into it i was like i think this is public yeah okay anyway uh 420 day fiance where we watch trash tv and talk about it with miles gray so check us out for 20 day fiance on all of the platforms yeah yeah and is there a work of media you've been enjoying yeah i was i've been enjoying for a long time the the 50 years of hip-hop thing on the new yorker because you can just click on each of the rappers and it

gives you a tiny little thing so you can make your way through it forever it's kind of like a sharp short crossword so whenever i'm like chilling i just have that pulled up on my phone and i click on any of the wrappers and i'm like okay and uh yeah so it's pretty fun 50 years of hip-hop let's see a tweet i've been enjoying tara at prola tara tweeted everybody at this home depot is getting hurricane supplies except this one woman is buying the 12-foot skeleton and that reminded me it's 12-foot skeleton season i need to go get that shit i'm gonna try and get it this afternoon but i like a person in a florida home depot as they're preparing for a once in a generation storm, getting the 12-foot skeleton. Is the 12-foot skeleton one of those blowy ones?

Or is it... Because I'm imagining that a 12-foot skeleton, one that blows around, would be pretty fun in a... Holy shit, that's such a good idea, Scott. Yeah, yeah. That's making lemonade out of lemons right there. Yeah, that's a good point. Like, just be worth weather testing.

Just, like, get a time-lapse video of how the 12-foot skeleton holds up in a generational storm. Am I wrong, or are we all picturing, like, that inflatable flailing? The flailing used car guy. Yeah, the used car is what I'm imagining. Sure, I'm just imagining now that it's, skeleton, right? Yeah, the used car is what I'm imagining. Sure, I'm just imagining now there's like the EMT in the rowboat with the like flooded neighborhood and then there's the one house with

several of the 12-foot skeletons. 12-foot skeletons? Everyone inside the house is dead, but the EMTs are delighted. Yeah. Also, the skeletons are smiling. Yeah. I don't know why, but I needed to make sure everyone knew that. Yeah, also the skeletons are smiling. Yeah. I don't know why,

but I needed to make sure everyone knew that. Yeah, of course they are. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter

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where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy super producer justin is there a song that you think people might enjoy yeah uh i just got back from spending all last week in my hometown of chicago to wind down the summer and celebrate my birthday and i want to put birthday oh celebrate my birthday. And I want to put... Oh, thank you so much. And I want to put all y'all onto an amazing band who's made Chicago their new home. I think they're originally from Madison, Wisconsin.

They're called Slowpulp. That's S-L-O-W-P-U-L-P. And if you listen to alt-rock radio in the mid to late 2000s, you'll probably feel pretty nostalgic for these guys you're kind of reminiscent of paramore but they have more of like a grungy lo-fi indie rock type vibe that would sound perfect in like an anime title sequence but uh this song is called slugs and it's by slow pulp and you can find that song in the footnotes footnotes the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radioRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio,

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