The Daily Zeitgeist - Epstein Memory Hole! Elon Sucks At Parties 07.08.25

Episode Date: July 8, 2025

In episode 1892, Jack and Miles are joined by podcaster and writer of Double Acts in Pop: An Incomplete Survey, Molly Lambert, to discuss… Elon Musk Is Now Starting A Political Party…, DOJ And FBI Conclude That Epstein Didn’t Keep The Client List That The Attorney General Already Confirmed and more! Trump Responds to Elon Musk's New Political Party: 'Train Wreck' DOJ And FBI Conclude That Epstein Didn’t Keep The Client List That The Attorney General Already Confirmed Pam Bondi in February: The Epstein client list is sitting on my desk right now to review. Pam Bondi Under Scrutiny Over Jeffrey Epstein Client List Revelation Musk Leads Right-Wing Meltdown Over Trump Administration’s Epstein Review LISTEN: Jazzhole by Free The RobotsSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It's a production by Heart Radio. It's a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Tuesday, July 8th, 2025. Oh yeah, national. 7-8-2-5. Two-five. Yep, exactly. Think about it.

It's not going to happen again until next month. Hey, 7-8-7, you add the two and the five, you get get a seven now we've got a palindrome also the kind of a bowing jumbo jet don't look into it it's also national raspberry day cow appreciation day national freezer pop day national chocolate with almonds day damn I've been had a fucking otter pop in a minute which one's on our boss are they just the ones that are like you cut the top off and push them on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the original. That's what I said.

They're every freezer pop was being like, you know, generic there. I almost said geriatric and that my reference may be geriatric, but shit, I love a tube of little push die and sugar. Yeah. Mm. Mm. Shard. Yeah.

Just I would always suck the juice out of it and it would just be a fucking straight Yeah. Mmm. Mmm. Shard. Yeah. I would always suck the juice out of it and it would just be a fucking straight plain icicle by the time I was done with it, you know? What do you mean you suck the juice out? Like you let it melt? No, you just suck the juice. And then you drink it. You go down there and suck the juice until, like, I mean, some of them had that consistency

where you could just like get the, you know. Oh, like all the flavor and then you have like a sad ice cube at the bottom. Exactly. Yeah. Anyway. I hate snow cones. My name is Jack O'Brien, AKA, I can draw sharks,

scary murder sharks. I just don't think it. I can draw man. And if you want a shark, a scary murder shark, I'll draw one and a severed hand that one courtesy of snarf you on the discord about my drawing abilities grew up drawing a lot of sharks on the back of homework and can draw sharks can draw a severed body part however I cannot draw hands those are too hard I can draw a severed leg

with a shoe on toes and fingers and fingers, fuck me up. The guy can't even outline his own hand on paper. Can't fucking do it. They're so hard. They're so complicated. I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Straight out the San Fernando. They know him as the Lord of Lakersim, the Shogun with no gun, AKA Hideo Noho. I'm here. I am out here. I don't know. I thought I had another AK based on being from the eight one eight, but I don't, but I don't cool staying cool in the valley.

It's getting hot. It's getting hot over there. I mean, I mean eighties doesn't, that's not that crazy. Today's going, I thought this week was like getting, getting up air, but I could go, are we, let's see. Oh, yeah We got 90. Oh, yeah, we got some 90s coming up, but that's fine. That's fine I grew up doing that barefoot on the blacktop out here It's funny cuz I see the guys child he walks out on concrete and he's like Oh, oh and like the weird toxic boomer part of me goes kind of tough for your feet up boy And he's not even three years old. You know what

I mean? Because I'm like, look at daddy, look at this. And you don't want to have nerve damage on the bottom of your feet from walking on hot asphalt all the time. Just calloused to the point of being sandal material on the bottom of your feet. It's not a fun. It's not like a cool thing to bring up to people because it's not like your foot looks immaculate either when you can walk on

like it's the it's the reverse of like people who grew up in massachusetts and i don't know where it's cold yeah i'm wearing shorts i'm wearing shorts on a fucking tank dude 25 degrees out this is nothing what do you what do you mean it smells like beer brats right now i'm just standing on that on the sidewalk bro what are you talking about nobody's grilling anything nobody's grilling meat i'm gonna commend you not, I've never once felt like you were unduly proud of being able to take heat, you know, the way, the way that mass holes are about the cold. So we don't have to talk about it from the valve. We don't have to talk about it.

It's just the thing that happens. It's just a thing that you're able to do. The thing that happens. Yeah. Miles speaking of the valley, thrilled to be joined in our third seat by brilliant writer, podcaster, producer, who's written for publications like the New York Times, the New Yorker, such as local publications. Local rags, yeah.

Producer on Everybody's Live, co-host of the legendary podcast Girls in Hoodies, and Night Call writer, creator, and host of the wonderful podcast Heidi World, the Heidi Fleiss story, and soon Jenna World, not about the character Jenna Mar, Heidi World, The Heidi Fleiss Story, and soon, Jenna World. Not about the character Jenna Maroney from 30 Rock, I've been told, but Jenna Jameson. Please welcome back to the show, it's Molly Lambert. Molly. I can't take the heat at all.

I'll never brag about it. If it gets hot, I'm inside. Inside. Yeah. I'm so brag about it. If it gets hot, I'm inside. Inside. Yeah. I'm so far away from the kitchen. I do the thing, the hot concrete feet. Yeah. I have the same thing, same delusion where I'm like, you got to walk on it, get a

little, got toughen up. It's like, you know, there's this whole thing like in the manuscript where people talk about, and I've seen it bleed into other sort of forums where people talk about how you can strengthen your skull bone with like light impact over and over to the point that your head is indestructible. And a guy can't be real. I saw this thing that's happening. I've I we could well probably I don't I was going to bring this guy up but he's got like a really fucked up dark past He was like he's one of these like manosphere people and then it turned out he had some like crazy

Sex crime shit that he was like hiding because he's like, yeah I was in jail and didn't talk about it and then someone dug it up and he's like, well, you know Maybe not but he he said he went to Shaolin monks and they trained him to make his skull so fucking strong that it was like impervious like he could even take a bullet in his head. All lies. But then I saw another post on the internet where someone was going with this one. Someone was like saying they could take BB impacts to their skin and they're working themselves up to like low caliber like munitions. Their skin could be impenetrable by bullets.

I'm like, oh my God, dude. Let's encourage it a little bit. Yeah. If, yeah. I mean, it's the most like scientific method I've seen applied to someone who's going to win a Darwin award eventually. Right. It's like, well, they were following this kind of weird ass logic of like resistance

training. Not that far off from like the Wim Hof ice baths or something. You're just like, yeah, you gotta. I mean, you want to see a lot of like indecipherable charts. You just look at like the literature that Flat Earth people want to show you. They have so much documentation.

They will, yeah. I saw the inventor of Mewing died. Ofwing like yeah, no mewing the manuscript thing. I'm shocked you guys aren't up on all over this Wait, no, which which it's like a thing you do where you like kind of grind your jaw in some way They get your fucking your job crazy. Yeah. Oh No, some guy guy who invented his name is like John Mew. Oh Wow brought to you by John and Mike Mew British orthodontists, I see they called it orthotropics Anything new tropics orthotropics Tropic Thunder, you know, you know, you're gonna get a book of Capricorn

Tropic Thunder. Tropic of Capricorn. Look, we're going to get our jaws. Our jaws are going to be square. Going to have a bunch of BBs under the skin. Yeah, exactly. Kind of push them around. Oh, he was 96? Wow.

So this guy was pushing this for a minute. Yeah, but it just got popular. It wasn't like a thing where his strong jaw overtook his face. Yeah, he got eaten by his own jaw. I didn't know that was called mewing. Thank you. See, we need Molly to round out the knowledge base. I thought you were deep in the mana spirit, but I guess I'm-

No, I just see what the algorithm shows me and I just take it as face value and I apply it. I'm not really trying to pick it apart and debunk anything. Look at Jack trying to mew right now, subconsciously. I know. What? No. This is just what my job is.

Why do you have a horse bridle in right now? Also, like, does this guy have a very strong chin, strong jaw? That's not what it's about. Even. Okay. Just easy. That would be so funny though. You got this weak ass chin and you're telling people you're like, I'm the chin god. It's out here looking like Tim Curry Oh, man, he's out here looking like 28 years later

Yeah, he's fuck is this he looks like Bill Nye the Science Guy if He if Bill if Bill Nye the science guy hadn't been doing hadn't been mewing for the past right oh my god it's fucking bro I'm sorry this guy looks so fucking like a like Jurassic Park face I don't know how else to describe it and also these videos of like the before and afters of people doing mewing there's just people sticking their jaw and now I'm the laughter fucked up. They're like, I used to be like this. And now I'm like this.

You used to be like this, and now I stick my jaw out. Yeah, and now I look like I got Kobe Mamba face out all the time, like, hey. I'm really into that whole thing, because I'm like, do people, do women care about if men have a crazy jaw? That seems like it's like. Jowline communicates gorilla mindset. That's like communicates, drill a mindset. That's what we're looking for in a mate.

I mean, but because I feel like 99% of the manuscript tips are coming from men who don't really interact have real or healthy interactions with the people they're seeking. So they just make it was like, that's, they're like, I hate my job. That's what it is. It's not a lot of personality. And it is like women only like guys that are like, look like Mr. Universe or whatever. Yeah. Women are cold and transactional. Don't give a shit about your feelings. They just want to have sex with Arnold Schwarzenegger in the eighties. That's you. That's you.

Why are women lying and saying they don't find this bodybuilder attractive? That was the thing that was doing viral. That's right. How could they think, who was it? It was that British pop star where they're like, look at this guy's weak ass body. They think that's ideal?

Fuck out of here. Yeah, there was a guy who spent two months. Olly Murs or whatever. Yeah, only eating chicken breast and, you know, like pills that you can buy off the Joe Rogan podcast. And like came back and was like, just like really, you could see like all the veins and muscles in his body. And they were like, who do you find more attractive before or after?

And like most women picked before and they were like what the fuck He's still like you like he was in shape to even the before photo he looked great My friend went to Muscle Beach for the 4th of July for the Muscle Beach contest in Venice. That's fun. Yeah. Everybody's bodies look crazy. Yeah.

They look like if you like rehydrated beef jerky kind of. You know? Yeah, but had veins all over the stuff. Yeah, like stringy kind of muscle. Yeah, yeah. That's in right now. That's in. You want to look like an old horse.

That's my ideal body. That's in. You want to look like an old horse. That's my ideal body type. Old horse. Yeah. Women love when you look like you're going to the glue factory. Exactly, dude. You want to look like a horse with no name. Dude, that's the whole vibe I'm going for.

I mean, America. Shout out the 4th of July. That's the name of the band is America. Yeah. In many ways, we're going back to the 1980s and just the steroid era and all that shit. It's crazy they're just like, women will like you if you do these things to your physical appearance and not like if you learn how to treat them like people.

Right. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's funny because it's like it's the lowest effort. You don't even have to lift weights, you know what I mean? Or eat a bunch of weird pills. You can just be secure in who you are and just go talk to people. No, they don't want that. No, dude. That's not true.

I was so nice to this girl and she didn't even like me. And by nice, I mean that I just like asked her what she was into and didn't really listen and then got mad when she didn't want to hook up with me. All right, Molly, we're thrilled to have you here. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we have big news that we're going to talk about later on. There's a new political party on the scene. Oh, yeah. And I think this one's going to be kind of a big deal. Oh, yeah. Oh, yes. It's headed by Elon Musk and it espouses a radical middle centrism. Fucking amazing.

Another one. Another one fell for it. Anyways, we'll talk about that and we can close the case on the Jeffrey Epstein story. Really. And we're just happy that we have closure. Nothing to see here. Nothing to see here. Moving along. Moving along.

We're just going to talk, gonna read the report. We're not going to spend too much time thinking about it. Uh, there might be like, if there's some quiet parts, we'll be like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, to try and like keep the thoughts out, you know? But we'll just kind of keep pushing through because there's nothing to see here. Nothing to see. All of that, plenty more. But first, Molly Lambert, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from

your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh my God. I had a good one. Uh, I thought I was like, I'm going to be prepared this time. I'm not going to be. I just like the way you did. Oh, I had a good one. Like doing an improv exercise. Like, all right, Molly, go. Oh, I had a good one. Fuck, I had a good one.

I had a good one. That is me improv, trying improv for the first time. Freeze, FBI. That is me trying improv for the first time. Freeze, FBI. I was looking at Ringo Starr. It is actually right now, oh my God, noon. Ringo Starr puts up a thing on his social media every year that at noon on his birthday, which is right now, Monday, July 7th,

won't be when you're listening to this. No. He says he wants everyone in the world to say peace and love. Peace and love. Peace and love. Man. Thanks Ringo. He makes these really funny videos.

He made one where he's coming out from behind a giant peace sign sculpture. He's like, hello. Hello, it's me Ringo. Somebody pull it out so you guys can see it. It's on his Instagram. Wonderful life. He's so cool. Um, and he's just some love somehow became his thing.

Just peace and love, peace and love. He's just like it for me birthday. Like all my fans to say, peace and love. Oh, wow. He's really got the Sergeant Pepper's outfit on and everything? Is this the word? Yeah, you gotta go back to the beginning so you see him come out from behind the sculpture.

My man is about to come out of a peace sign, like a sculpture of a hand as a peace sign. By the way, very difficult artistically. Also, is there only four fingers? No, no, no, look, there's one two, three, four five. Oh, yeah. Yeah It's AI motherfucker. I was that's not even sir. Richard Starkey or whatever his fucking real name is. Here it is You know what's happening on Monday my birthday. Okay. Well, this is gonna get taken down because it's got the Beatles playing in the back Well on my birthday.

All right. Okay. Tell me more Ringo. He looks like the guy who played a Mick Lovin from, you know, you know, the movie I'm talking about Christopher Mintz plus he looks like he's like aging backwards into Christopher Mintz plots. Well, that can't be Ringo Starr. No, that's Christopher Mintz plots.

Well, it's so interesting. Oh shit. Great branding though. Just saying the same phrase over and over again until that's your thing. And then making everybody say it at noon on your birthday. Yeah. Yeah. Also real talk.

Peace and love. He doesn't get old. Peace and birthday. Yeah. Yeah. Also, real talk. Peace and love. He doesn't get old. Peace and love. He's fucking March Simpson in heaven in the future. Oh, that's right. They're together in heaven. That's right. Shout out Ringo. Also, just like one of the great fake names of all time. Yeah. What are your name's Richard? Yeah. Getting out there with Ringo.

Ringo. Ringo Star. Mm hmm. Jesus Christ. Really? Uh, that rules. Um, Molly, what's something you think is underrated? Underrated tomatoes. Mm hmm.

It's tomato season? Oh, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. That makes sense. That makes sense. How are you having them? Just, they're so good. I just, I've just been eating tomatoes all kinds of ways I can only eat it. I can never just eat a straight-up slice of a tomato

I'm into like the cherry tomatoes Uh-huh, and I think just like a little snack carrying them around. They're so good. I truly was just like nature I'm in a version. It has to be like with others whenever it's with other stuff I'm all for it. But like if you just put out like a slab of like heirloom tomato slices, I'd be like, no, see, that's where I think it's underrated. I think it's like you usually they they play their part in like the sandwich or the burger or whatever. But truly on their own, they also they slap. That's that's how I feel about onions. Yeah.

You're just eating like you're like an apple sandwich topping off is happening. True onion game. Yeah. Yeah. You'll just eat. You'll eat a slice of heirloom tomato. I mean, I will say you put a little olive oil on that, a little salt and pepper. I'm definitely I'm on board. That's what I mean. Yeah a little bit That sounds great. I've also I'm really into making like a gazpacho with like a spotch Yeah, you just like put some vegetables in a food processor put some tomatoes little pepper little olive oil It's truly so fucking good Eat it with some bread. Oh

So spots dude little mozzarella. Mm-hmm. Just a great summer dinner. You got mozzarella in the spotch? No, I'm saying like on the bread on the side. Ooh, okay. Yeah, exactly. A classy grilled cheese with tomato soup. Classique.

What is something you think is overrated? All right, word to Jamie Loftus, but hot dogs. Oh, boy. Word to what happened. I just were you at with a nasty kind of nasty. Damn. OK. Like I can't. I respect the the culture. Sure. But I'm never like, feeding for a hot dog. And I just, I just, I would

love to be proven wrong. Someone tell me where the really good hot dog is. Yeah. A good sausage is different than a hot dog. That the one time I think every time I go to a baseball game, I'm like, yeah, I need to eat a hot dog here. That's just what I need to be doing. But other than that, producing the Costco hot dog. Everything. Maybe they're good and I'm just not in tune with the people. No, you speak your truth.

May not fucking with hot dogs. They don't fucking, there's nothing exciting about them. I get it. There's, you gotta, you gotta dress them up or something. Like it's gotta be wrapped in bacon. Yeah, I think it's just one of those. It's like, there's a lot of things like that where I'm like, what I really like is all the stuff on top.

Like what I really like is like a mess, a pile of vegetable detritus. Right. You could take out the hot dog and I would be like, this is good. Just the onions and mustard in a bun. Half a jalapeno. Great. Good. No other food more consistently comes up as a burp for me. That smells exactly like the food that I just ate other than hot dogs.

Hot dogs. It was just coming back. No matter what. There's a guy on TikTok who's been eating cat food because he's like... Doing well. He's doing really well. No digestive issues. But he's also... He's doing it like as rage bait, but it is also because he's like, well,

I'm broke and I'm going to eat cat food. And then everyone in the comments is like, dude, you could eat like a can of beans. There's lots of stuff. Right. It doesn't have to, not like this. Yeah. Not like this. But some people were defending the cat food eating. And then I was a little bit like, it's probably not that different from what's in a hot dog.

Right. It's like the parts you're not using. Sure. But I'm sure, but human food grade versus animal food grade. Yeah, but you take but human food grade versus animal food grade. Yeah, but you take the human food grade version of cat food, you put it in a casing, everybody's like, oh, baseball, we love it. Right, right, right.

Yeah, we just didn't boil it down to kill all the pathogens. Yeah, but like if that stuff was just loose in a bun, you'd be like, this is trash meat. Just a 180, just do a Twilight Zone episode, but it's just a complete find and replace hot dogs with cat food and cat food with hot dogs. That's the only difference. Where am I?

Yeah, I mean, that's basically what a sloppy job is. Anyways, all right, the hot dog wars have begun. I've not seen soup producer Bay this upset in a while. Yeah, sorry about that Bay. Bay also did miss one of our recordings because of food poisoning. So, that's unrelated. Nothing to do with the hot dogs. Nothing to do with the fact I was in a hot dog eating contest the day before. Unrelated. Hot dogs really have their moment on July 4th though. It's yeah. And that's why Jamie,

that's Jamie's day, you know, at the Coney Island Nathan's festival. We need other things to celebrate besides America at this time. So, you know, whether it be the fourth of Jalisi, happy birthday, Lacey Mosley. Yep. Yep. Yep. I did go to a Barnes and Noble this weekend with my kids and Jamie's book was out front and I got to be like, here, let me just show you guys something real quick. Who's that quote from? Boom. They're like, that's not you.

They're like, who's Robert Evans? It was Robert Evans. His quote is much better. But yeah, we rep, we obviously love Jamie's book and we rep for, you know, hot dog culture. Yeah, I don't think you need to qualify that. I think she's going to take that as shots fired. But it is. I think it's also like Jamie has a different stomach than I do. Oh yeah, she's built different. She's built different. When I saw her drink that hot dog water one time during her show,

she did it more than one time. I was just like, oh, yeah, yeah. That's different. I'm not like my stomach. It was definitely some Bane shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. Y'all play around in the hot dog world.

My stomach gets upset if like the wind blows wrong, you know? The right side of my stomach got cold. So you're at the barbecue, other people are eating hot dogs, you're just over there at the condiments tray, just housing the sliced tomatoes. Piling tomatoes in a... Just throwing them up. Where do the tomatoes go? No, I ate chicken.

I ate chicken at the barbecue. There you go. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about some of the stories that are happening right now. We'll be right back. Just like great shoes, great books take you places through

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From iHeart Podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is The Turning, River Road. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to ten girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. Why did I think that way? Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man and thinking to the point that if I died for him that would be the greatest honor? But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped and sparked an international manhunt. For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey.

And then he became the prey. Listen to The Turning River Road on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I know a lot of cops and they get asked all the time, have you ever had to shoot your gun? Sometimes the answer is yes, but there's a company dedicated to a future where the answer will always be no. Across the country, cops call this Taser the revolution. But not everyone was convinced it was that simple. Cops believed everything that Taser told them. From Lava for Good and the team that brought you Bone Valley comes a story about what happened when a

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Elon Musk was like, if they pass this, well, if you don't, you pass this bill that takes away my subsidies, you motherfucker. You motherfucker. They, well, Donald, Donald. They passed it. And he, he's like, man, oh, you thought I was fucking around? I care. I care about the debt.

No, you don't. That's right. You want to pretend you're just mad that the EV mandates are gone and you know, you're like your breakup with Mr. Donald isn't going well, but yeah, he, there was a posting from at America party X, uh, and it was a terribly, you know, it's like an AI slop image of Elon Musk and it said, Magus, the past woke is a distraction. The middle is the future.

America party is the party of the middle majority. Okay. Okay. Okay. The middle is the future. That language is so fucking tepid and uninspiring. It sounds like some shit Democrats would actually be saying, and they probably, they are saying on some level, the middle, the absolute middle, the comfortable part. That's where we're, that's the future. Not the other part where all the energy is at.

What if the democratic party, the party that you only tolerate because they're the not racist one, what if they were the not outwardly racist one? What if they were outwardly racist? Ah, yes. Now you have my attention, sir. Okay, this is what I've been missing. He posted on X quote, by a factor of two to one, you want a new political party and you shall have it when it comes to bankrupting our country with waste and graft. We live in a one party system, not a democracy. Wait, what does it mean when it comes to a party we live in? Oh, I guess it's saying it's okay. Okay. It's a little wonky. The parties are the parties of wasting graft.

Uh-huh. Today, the America party is formed to give you back your freedom that I took away also with Doge cut. Right. So please forget that. Also, I'm a Nazi, which is not the middle, but okay. Okay. He should have tried like when people run for student council and they're like, and

if I win, everybody gets pizza. Yeah. Yeah. That's what Zorin basically did. You know what I mean? like when people run for student council and they're like, you know, if I win, everybody gets pizza. Yeah, that's what Zorin basically did. You know what I mean? He was smart enough to be like, here's a tangible outcome. You can attach to my candidacy rather than like something vague. He could have said, hey, guys, everyone gets free verified badges on X. Oh, my God. Just to start.

Now, that would be cool. That'll bring him back. That'll God. Just to start. Now that would be cool. That'll bring him back. That'll bring him back. Exactly. Mark Cuban also agreed, he's quote, just to reply to this tweet from Elon, quote, I work with the Senator for competitive democracy. They will help you get on ballots. That is their mission.

Okay. So Mark Cuban, Mark Cuban loves the middle too, doesn't he? He loves it in the middle. Can we just get all these people back on NBC where they belong? Get some reality competition where they like get to just give them a nice edit, you know? Yeah. Let them be on television. Right. They're, they're getting bored and they don't like podcasting or they got tired

of podcasting or going on them. Anthony Scaramucci, also a former White House communications director, also said, quote, I would like to meet to discuss. So the worst fucking people you know, who, you know, are pretending like they aren't aligned with the Republicans are coming out to be like, yes, yes, this feels right. They're like, what if instead of this psychotic rich guy, we got different psychotic rich guys. Mm hmm. But it was center. Exactly.

Yes. Yeah. The thing that people have been rejecting and voting for Donald Trump in favor of the, the thing everybody fucking hates. That's the, that's your big standpoint. I don't know. I don't know what to make of the Trump response that he posted on Kirkland Signature Twitter because it's dense.

It's a lot of words here. That's it's because all his things are written by chat GPT now. Well, you can tell like it's got a lot of M dashes. Yeah, he's got a lot of M dashes. Yeah. There are a lot of M dashes. That's the one of the biggest signs. Yeah. And truly you can tell he put in, it's like the rants are being phoned in a little bit, which to me says he's getting tired.

I think it's that one blonde lady that he uses as his human speak and say, who she might be cutting corners to now. And she's like, you know, and I'm just going to chat GPT. They do sound a little bit like... A senile old man rant about this thing. Yeah, his rants don't have the... his heart's not in it when he's like the lying loser. Right. There was a thing that they were saying that there are these certain words know that that now that people oh like bolster unearth and nuance are, oh wait, no.

Uh, Oh prowess and tapestry are words that are being favored more by chat. GPT. They're like a couple of words that they say it just uses incessantly. Uh, maybe incessantly might be one of them because I'm also when you see the next tweet and it's like, America is a tapestry of prowess. I do say that all the time. So when you see the next tweet and it's like, America is a tapestry of prowess. I do say that all the time. Yeah. Everyone is mewing.

Cosmic gumbo is not there though, so you're safe. I am saddened to watch Elon, this is from Trump's truth social thing. I'm saddened to watch Elon Musk go completely quote, off the rails, essentially becoming a all caps train wreck over the past five weeks. I just like that opening where he's like really hammering the train metaphors. Love the railway imagery. Yeah. He's going to transform into a train.

Because he knows Elon Musk hates trains. Right. Because he wants to build the Hyperloop instead. He can't get them built. He can't get them built. He can't get them built. You do hate to see someone like Elon Musk, you know, walk directly into this trap. I feel like it's the thing where people like can't think two levels away from where they

are. Like if you're, you know, middle class, you can picture the wealthy people who are millionaires, and you can picture people who make less than you, but you can't picture the billionaires. You can't even conceive of how they live or what their values are. For him, because there's no level above him, The only level below him is Mark Cuban. It's like Mark Cuban being like, I think the center is where it's at. And that's like the furthest left

that he can like possibly conceive of. And so they just keep falling into this like centrism trap over and over again. And it's just, and I think it's what like also where the Democrats are funded by people like him. And so, you know, they're, they've been using the same logic as, as this for a long time to be like, people just want like reasonable centrism that we can get away with not doing anything.

It's like the hushed brutalization of marginalized groups. That's what we call centrism. They're like, we shake our heads when it's happening. As though we have no power to do anything. God, I just feel so bad about that. That is what's been happening in California, kind of. Yeah. With all the nightmare stuff happening. It's like, where are the politicians?

And then they are just kind of like, oh, darn. I hate this. I hate this for you guys. The poor people hate this for you. I can hate this for you guys. It's so much police state, you guys. I hate this for you. For you, for you.

The mainstream media, also the new way that they're covering it is they're talking about how ICE is bad for... They're covering it from the police perspective. The police is even... The LAPD is even confused about ICE now because they can't just straightforward be like, this is a fuck job. They're just kidnapping and disappearing people for every brown skin. So there's been a whole rash of stories. It's like launder it with the police perspective.

I can think about how this affects the police at which the police are like, it's kind of bad because we can't tell the difference between this and kidnapping. Oh, wow. That's weird. So what's your job? And, um, so we actually show people our badges before we kidnap them. Oh, got it, got it, got it. You know where they are.

This one, we have trouble with knowing where they are. That just feels weird to us, I guess. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think someone thinks of the police. It is like they're getting out fast and you can tell they hate that because they're like, where are the boots? This is kind of like our thing. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think someone, it is like they're getting out fast and you can tell they hate that because they're like, where are the, where are the boots? It's kind of like our thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

They're like complaining in the LA times that like ICE is not like letting them know when a raid is happening. They're like, guys, what the fuck? Like this is got to tell us so that we can kind of be there and protect. And then they're like, we better protect them just in case. Yeah, they do. When they show up, they immediately lock it down, start protecting ICE and not the people who are being. You see people like the comments around those stories, and they'll be like, you know, I think one day the police,

they're going to push back. And they're like, no, they're going to join. They're going to leave the police and join ICE, because they're like, no, they're gonna join. They're gonna leave the police and join ICE. Cause they're like, yo dude, you can do whatever over there. Yeah. Anyways, this is, I think a good, like sort of a best case scenario for like what Eli, I mean, who knows? He seems to be like easily distractable, but like just a complete political loser that

he can be funneling his time and energy and money into, I feel like is much better than any other thing. I mean, the plus- That is reasonably possible. The positive spin is it'll split the right wing and then they'll be split. They'll have to really cheat. Then they'll have to really, really hard. It was easier when it was two parties. I'm like, just add a little more to that side.

And every time I get excited, like, Oh, the Nazis are going to take each other down because they're all such psychopaths. Then they seem to like do a backroom deal. Figure it out. Yeah. A South African loser is allowed to start the America party. Like, I just feel like. Isn't he like he has like Canadian citizenship or something anyway?

Initially something. Yeah, I mean, he he's look, this is America. If you got money, it doesn't matter until then. The little finer points come up where like you can't run for president. You can do whatever you fucking do anything. If I were running truth socials, I would just be like, you're the reason Grimes fell off. Yeah, right. Exactly.

That was the monster truck rally. Yeah, but you know what? That was a little bit like, Oh, she likes stadiums. Somebody like stadiums. Uh huh. And this is going fast. It's going a little fast. So what was the first video with the monster truck route?

Uh, oblivion, I think. Yeah. The boop boop boop boop boop boop boop boop boop with that like arpeggio. Oh yeah. It's a little bit. The video is a monster truck. It's like in a big stadium. Yeah. Buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh buh Every time, you know, what was, who's the guy who tried to do this? Andrew WK? Andrew WK? All the Andrews keep trying to do this. He started the Real America Party, Andrew WK. The party party.

Which one day we'll do a behind the scenes story of how the party party happened. How one guy fought it up and got Andrew WK to think, we started a real political party when I worked at Playboy. Whether that guy is on this call or not remains to be seen. And then some wacky stuff in politics, y'all. I don't talk about everything, but... That's a lot. But yeah, I remember just the absolute... What was it called? The New Direction direction party Andrew Yang's version of this. Oh God The mainstream media will forward not forward not right forward

Mm-hmm, the mainstream media will give this the time of day all day long like that Oh the time of day they will give this will be all day So yeah, this Justin was like pointing out that there's just coverage of this. It's like tens of thousands of people seem to respond and like this. It's like he put this in the feet of literally every human on Earth. Also like bots. He's got bots liking all his stuff so he feels popular because nobody likes him actually.

Yeah. But they're going to do what they can to make this seem like a legitimate thing. It will be. It is legitimate. Like the New York Times in between being like Zoran is like a dybbuk or whatever. Did you see that thing they posted in the New York Times about those hacked Columbia admissions? Yes. He checked African American. He was born in Uganda. Did you see that thing they posted in the New York Times about those hacked Columbia admissions things? Yeah, I saw it. He's like African American.

He was born in Uganda. And it was published and written by a literal eugenicist, like a race science psychopath. Oh, the guy who leaked it. Yeah. And then it's Rufo on the track. Yeah. It's all a must. The New York Times just posting it credulously in between their best films of the 2000s.

Yeah. Remember when they're like, we won't post hacked material And I mean the Hillary time was the last one but and and we did it for Trump But but this one's fine. This one's fine. They've gone real nice off lately. They've been sort of Oh, yeah, they do not they do not like this Zoran guy. I'll tell you one thing I will say this though the party the political party launch did not do good for Tesla stock again. Oh no. What? They went down like 7% after this.

Can I just say also, the Teslas have been exploding more. I've heard several like first hand stories recently about people being like affected by a Tesla exploding. Really? Yeah, somebody I was working with one blew up in her apartment building and they all got relocated. Jesus. It like blew up in the garage. Just just cuz for funsies. Yeah, just like one day they battery explodes, I think. Oh, man. So he should have focus group that said, do you want a car with the battery just exploding randomly? No. Yeah.

If your wheel doesn't come off, battery does explode. We're good here, right? Yeah. Oh, my God. He made it. The car will be exciting. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. Right. Mercurial.

People like the lottery. We're going to let them play the odds and drive this car roulette. Drive it till the wheels fall off because the battery just exploded. I mean, that would be the next kind of like tit for tat war between Trump. He'd be like, and now I'm looking into Tesla. I heard they're all murder vehicles that I once sold on the white house lawn and told people to buy. They're very dangerous, very dangerous.

Somebody does need to slide that his way. Just go bro, you need to look into that. Because I do feel like they've been, it's all been very quiet. You only hear about it when it kills Mitch McConnell's wife's mom. Was that who it killed? Or like her friend, right? Or something? I forget. But like, yeah, it happens to people. And otherwise it just gets kind of-

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Really? Yeah, he's still, he's like today. He was like, just so you know, the cops planted the blood. Sit down, Bobby. Sit down. Uh, but now the department of justice and FBI have officially concluded in a memo, uh, that there's no evidence that he kept a client list, that he kept a client list. There's no evidence that he kept a client list. This person, by all evidence his entire

MO was Blackmailing powerful people. Mm-hmm did not keep a client list Also flight logs are like just flight logs man. That's the only place names were written down in any capacity Yeah, because the only thing we're interacting with Jeffrey any capacity. Yeah, because it's only like me. Jeffrey Epstein. Public. Also that he wasn't murdered. To prove that he wasn't murdered, they're going to release a video from the prison

in both raw and enhanced versions. Which I don't know what that means. Really? It's like the Criterion collection? Yeah, it's like the Lord of the Rings DVDs where they're just like new enhanced Version I was reading what that meant there and it's it reads like just total word salad where they're just like, oh, yeah, man We the the version of this is like very old person talk the enhanced version where they have oh

Increasing relevant footage has been enhanced by increasing its contrast the enhanced version where they have, oh, increasing, relevant footage has been enhanced by increasing its contrast, balancing the color, and improving its sharpness for greater clarity and viewability. That's so crazy. They're like, don't worry, we're gonna put out a high res video

of somebody off in the house. Not getting out of there, or just not getting out of their cell? Yeah, it's just gonna be the static footage of the outside in the house. Not getting out of there or just not getting out of their cell? Yeah, it's just going to be the static footage of the outside of a door. That's what they're expecting people to be like, ah, I feel much better. I think I think we can close the book on this. Something, you know, this gave me Oliver Stone brain too bad, I think. Yes.

I had it's like I had to step away because I was like, you know what? Everything's so insane that I can barely think about it. Who's the monarchist guy? The New Yorker just wrote the profile of him Curtis Yarvin. Yeah, Curtis Yarvin like You gotta stop talking of like you gotta talk about it, but don't platform it. Don't give them the attention. That's what they want. Just like, ugh, God. Oh, man.

He's a real doozy. But there is an email between him and Peter Thiel in the early days where he's like, the good news is that the left like wouldn't see a conspiracy if it like was happening right in front of them. So I don't know. Like I do feel like it partially they're just like, yeah, like nobody, nobody's going to do shit. They're going to come up with conspiracy theories and who gives a fuck?

What does that mean for us? You know? Well, I mean, you look at already how the all the right wing influencers who they invited to the White House and gave them Epstein files binders or, you know, a lot of them are, some have fallen in line. Others are like, what the fuck is this? Like, cause they were already pissed about the binder thing that they got. And they're like, there's nothing new here. But then to add to that, just like how they're saying, I mean, like the way

it sounds like truly there's really nothing to see here. And also like, there's saying, I mean, like the way it sounds like truly, there's really nothing to see here. And also like, there's not even any need to like look in to see if anyone else could be involved in like the trafficking of untold amounts of miners. The thing that really gets me about it is like, couldn't they have just honey trapped people with like the promise of miners without actually having all these minors. Yeah. MSNBC had a whole show like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. And it worked out great. Who's easy?

Couldn't they have just been like, we caught you on film saying you'd like to meet a 14-year-old. Right. We don't actually have to have 14-year-olds having their lives ruined, right? Right. No. Yeah. I think he was a genuinely bad person. He was just in it to get the compromise. I think he was in it for... Yeah, his predation ended up being something

he could weaponize and become more powerful. But like, this is a clip of Pam Bondi in fucking February. Yes. Alluding to the fact that there's an Epstein list on her desk. This is her saying this out loud in February, alluding to the fact that there's an Epstein list on her desk. This is her saying this out loud in February. The DOJ may be releasing the list of Jeffrey Epstein's clients. Will that really happen? It's sitting on my desk right now.

Okay. They asked the client list could be released. It's sitting on my desk right now. There's nothing, like, I don't know where there's any ambiguity there. I'm like, oh, when I said that, I'm just like saying other shit that I don't mean. Anyway, here's the rest of our answer. The review, that's been a directive by President Trump. I'm reviewing that.

I'm reviewing JFK files, MLK files. That's all in the process of being reviewed because that was done at the directive of the president from all of these agencies. So, what do you think? I mean, she also was on hidden camera saying something to the effect of like, we have tens of thousands of like videos from Epstein that we're reviewing also. So yeah, and I'd imagine while, you know, like, let's, let's also not forget. She was the attorney general of Florida while a lot of this stuff was being, uh, worked out in court in her own state.

So I don't, you know, like there's what's again, what the fuck did they find there that they go, yeah, let's just do a nothing to see here at it on this, especially when they have people like Cash Patel and damn Bon Gino who's like half their personalities is Epstein talk that they're like, you know, we saw Cash Patel on Joe Rogan. He's like, yeah, yeah, it's all there's nothing. You got to understand, man. I'm I've looked at I get it, man. It's all good. There's nothing there. You got to understand, man. I've looked at it, man. I'd say it's all good here. The DOJ and FBI said in the memo that no further disclosure of Epstein-related material would be appropriate or warranted.

The memo argued that much of the material relates to child sexual abuse, details of Epstein's victims, and information that would expose innocent individuals to allegations of wrongdoing. In other words, that's just legalese for like, it might make some people look really guilty and we don't want that. And we can't pursue that. So we're going to spin that as innocent bystanders got swept up in this whole thing. I mean, I get that like for right wingers,

their whole thing too is they think it's going to bring down the entire Democratic Party. You know, like, there's a version where they're like, oh man, all these people I hate are there. But then there's like, we've seen them on together on wax. Like there's, well, what do they think is going to happen? That maybe they're just, or what are they just going to redact and be like, here's the upstein client list. It's all these people from the Democratic party.

Yeah, I figured they were just going to be like, here's some Clintons and like nobody else. We don't know about that. Right. Just being like nothing to see here is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Fuck. It's giving me real end of the movie Chinatown energy.

Yes, real end of Chinatown. So I'm just like trying to, I do need somebody to do, unfortunately I do need somebody to do like a long read profile of just like, what is the theory of like what this was then? He ran a vast like trafficking operation with no clients Like it was who is he trafficking then to thank you and for asking too many questions I think he was doing it. There's just not a list Okay

And you're we're not and you're not looking into it further because it might expose the innocent individuals to Allegations of wrongdoing which seems pretty straightforwardly We don't want to gang by in trouble. Oh, we know these people and they're like on our team, too The real third rail with this stuff is that they don't want to say that he was CIA The real third rail with this stuff is that they don't want to say that he was CIA, which he for sure was, you know, that they can't be like he was working for us doing all this in like the government was funding this for some psychotic reason. The one you always see on the right, they talk about it like, you know, he was with Mossad. That's the whole thing. Like this is all Mossad too. And they're protecting

us like every there's every flavor of fucking conspiracy theory. I mean, I think that's true also. He was like, I'm saying like for their very specific flavor of anti-Semitism, where they're just like, I'm going to brush up against a thing that is from Israel or something and then be like, because you know, the larger conspiracy theory, we're also getting that here. You know what I mean? We're going to be really going for something big here. I'm just, I don't know.

I'm curious to see really what the fallout is with all of like the Laura Loomers, because like she's also not having a, she's, she's having a bad one today with this announcement. Oh no. They're just going to move on and be like it never happened Wipe your minds about it. I mean it also it's like one of those things too when we think about like there's really is Would that even be a third rail for the MAGA people if Trump was in there or they're just immediately We'll build a way to be like well, he was probably investigating it firsthand. It is like they know he's a Like a sex creep and they don't care there it's like part of his thing that they're like well yeah man he's a cool

guy. Guy likes to party. Yeah. Yeah he likes to party. And those Epstein videos of like Trump at the Epstein parties where he keeps like biting his lower lip It's so upsetting. Trump yelling, yeah. Anyways, it's not the only thing that's upsetting. But I do find it's funny. I think it's also a lot of rich guy parties are just a bunch of rich guys and some girls who were coerced to be there. You know?

Like. We thought we were gonna get some answers. Like that kind of, it started going into sort of talking about the modeling industry. And it seemed like it was going to like blow up the modeling industry, that there's all this stuff that's like the modeling industry is all a front to like traffic girls from poor Eastern European countries to like billionaires. You know, just like reverse taken. Yeah. I mean, I'm reading this Christie Brinkley autobiography

that I found in a free library. And she like tells this story that's like, and then I got signed with elite and then they were like, hey, you want to go on this yacht with a bunch of rich guys. You'll get lots of cool stuff out of it. And I was like, right, huh, that seems sketchy. I don't think I want to do that. Right.

Do you want to be a boat out in open water in the dark? No, with a bunch of wealthy people who think they can do whatever the fuck they want. But you get some cool stuff out of it. It's truly like the way they were like some girls go and they get diamond necklaces. She was like, I'm okay, I think. Yeah, it's the updated version of a guy in a van with candy now. It's like a what about a billionaire in a yacht with a diamond? But he's like, oh, that's like the function of these modeling agencies kind of more so than modeling. I mean, yeah. Also, just like on the heels of the Diddy thing, it just shows like how

unserious this country is when it relates to anything about like sexual violence. They're just like, I don't know, I'm just stupid on the road. I don't know. Moving along, moving along. Boys will be boys. Huh? Okay, man. You don fucking just stupid under that rug. I don't know. I'm fucking just- Moving along, moving along. Yeah, boys will be boys. Huh? Okay, man. You don't want to fucking get our people caught up in this shit. Yeah.

Because as may or may not have been Jeffrey Epstein's entire MO, everybody is implicated. A lot of powerful people are implicated. So they got to just shut it down. You know? My God. It's just so wild to have your whole personality as a party. You'd be like, what's in the Epstein files? Epstein was murdered. There's all these powerful people.

It was a cabal of all these dangerous people. Yeah, yeah, no, it's just fucking nothing at all. Turns out, like, I don't know. I was so high when I was talking about that shit, I think. Forget everything I said. Even when I was attorney general for it, I think. Forget everything I said, even when I was attorney general for it, it's all bad. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

Molly Lambert, such a pleasure having you as always on the podcast. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me on the last social media platform. I'm on Instagram, at molly underscore Lambert. You can check out my new podcast, Jenna World, this fall when it comes out. Jack and Miles, you are both in it. Yeah. Super producers, Bay and Victor, both super producing on it. And it's going to be crazy. It is going to be so wild.

I'm so excited for it. It's going to be cool. It is going to be so wild. I'm so excited for it. It's going to be cool. Yeah, it is. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? Truly, this Christie Brinkley autobiography. That sounds amazing. It is awesome. It is amazing. First of all, she's from Los Angeles, it turns out. She's from the 818 Granada Hills, I believe. It's just like her life is

crazy. And then she's like, and then I met Billy Joel and we fell in love. And I starred in the video for Uptown Girl. Is that where they met or that was? No, they met in like St. Barts at like a fancy rich person resort. Like, oh, we're all here at the fancy rich person resort. She's like, I'd rather stay landbound while meeting my rich influential people. But it is like, I was just like, I got to learn about this room. It's so like, I like a book where someone, she's just like, he was so hot. Billy Joel was so charismatic and hot. I mean, he was on a heater there. Billy Joel was so charismatic and hot, you know?

I mean, he was on a heater there. And then- Yeah, truly. She's like, he took me up to his penthouse in Manhattan and he played New York State of Mind for me on his piano while we looked out the window at the glimmering Manhattan skyline. It's also very like a light read, which is kind of what I need right now, you know?

Except for like the dark allusions to the underbelly of the body. But even that, it's like she skips out on all that stuff. There's a lot of like something bad. So I was like, no, thank you. Yeah. Anyway. I mean, there's some bad stuff happened to her.

Sure, sure. But it is like, mainly it's like something bad almost happened and then I was fine. I just got to a part where she like tried cocaine for the first time and then a shoot in Italy is interrupted by student protests. And she's like, Oh, they're going to kill us because we're the bourgeoisie. She got paranoid and thought she was the reason. Yeah. And then it's just like, and then we got away and it was fine.

And then we had oysters in the bay with my husband, Billy Joel. Awesome. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work of media you've been enjoying? Find me everywhere at milesofgray.com and check out me talking about 90-day fiance on 420 day fiance working. Dude, I started watching Chernobyl again just because I don't know why. It's so fucking grim, but it's so it has this pull on me every time I watch it. I've only I've saw it once when it came out and I don't know why I put the baby

to bed and I'm like, you know, I'm gonna fire up Chernobyl right now and watch how terrible radiation is. But it's so, it's so fucking good. Maybe it's like nice to be reminded of other times that were also Graham. Yeah. Yeah. Cause I mean, that really was about to fuck up half the earth and they figured it out. You know, that is exactly why I'm like interested. I like find myself just on the Wikipedia page for the dust bowl every once in a while. I'm like, man, it looked really bad there for us for a little while.

Right. Truly, truly, truly. So that's not really a great recommendation. That's just what I'm saying. I am watching right now and and and let that be that Yeah, I feel like we're gonna be averaging like a Chernobyl a month like at some point in the not-too-distant future But well, I'm just like when I think about it too, like even like in in like the Soviet Union Like bro, we can't fucking destroy the earth We better figure like they tried to keep it under wraps until the radiation was too much

I'm like now like I think like, I think like this administration, I'm like, I don't know, dude, is it in the US? Maran, fuck it. No responsibility towards anyone. Anyway, there's that. A couple tweets I enjoyed. Alfie tweeted, the first person to ever throw up was probably like, okay, what the fuck?

And Kiera Sullivan tweeted, when someone has do not disturb on, it's like, okay, what the fuck? And here a Sullivan tweeted when someone has do not disturb on it's like, oh, okay, I didn't realize the great philosopher was in their hour of seclusion, pardon me for even daring to enter their precious mind palace. You can find me on Twitter at jack underscore O'Brien on blue sky at jack OB the number one. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. You can go to the episode description, wherever you're listening to this, and there you will find the footnotes. Nope.

Which is where we link off to the things that we talked about in today's episode, the sourcing, for example, of some of the information that we talked about, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, is there a song that you think the people might enjoy? Yeah, yeah. Just a fun little sample bass track that reminds me of yesteryear. This is called Jazz Hole by Free the Robots. It feels like something that would have been on a Jurassic Five album when they cut chemists in Newmark, make an all sample track. And that's kind of the vibe I get from this one.

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