The Daily Zeitgeist - Epstein’s Pilot Speaks, Elon Musk Stars In Horrible Bosses 12.01.21

Episode Date: December 1, 2021

In episode 1040, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Sara June to discuss Trump Flew On Lolita Express - Maybe We Will Learn Stuff From the Maxwell Trial Afterall??, Dems have FINALLY got their prio...rities straight - they’re going after...bots?, Stephen Paddock Was Probably A Right Wing Extremist, Speaking of Islamophobia…, Elon Musk And Why Privatization Isn’t Always A Great Idea and more! Trump Flew On Lolita Express - Maybe We Will Learn Stuff From the Maxwell Trial Afterall?? Dems have FINALLY got their priorities straight - they’re going after...bots? Stephen Paddock Was Probably A Right Wing Extremist Speaking of Islamophobia… Boebert and Omar fight leaves GOP scrambling Elon Musk And Why Privatization Isn’t Always A Great Idea LISTEN: The Loser by Derrick Harriott Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:30 I'm Jess Costavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
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Starting point is 00:01:40 People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's basketball. And on this new season, we'll cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to Season 213, Episode 3 of Der Daily Zeitgeist. by Diet Coke. of course means it is rosa parks day also very important it's national red apple day eat a red apple day okay yeah okay i already read ate a red apple today and national pie day which is interesting because pies never utilize red apples uh they're they're
Starting point is 00:02:38 always telling you to get the ones that make your mouth pucker so you know it's interesting things yeah absolutely and also what you say national pie day already yeah i said national pie good our guests and super producer justin were pointing out that isn't isn't 314 national pie day well look according to this entry it says uh we celebrate on this day but the more popular date is january 23rd but the more popular date is January 23rd. For what? For who?
Starting point is 00:03:06 What the fuck is this? Do they not know math? This is the National Pi Day for the mathematically illiterate. Oh, you think they're doing it to be one, two, three. Probably, right? That other rapper. They're just like numbers, you know? And pi is a number. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Can't get enough National Pi Days. Can't get enough National Pie Days. Can't get enough. My name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Mamas, don't let your babies grow out their mustache. Don't let them be pickup artists that suck. Make them not look like creepy old fucks. That is courtesy of one Christy Yamaguchi Maine on this, my final
Starting point is 00:03:48 day of mustachio. It's gone. Of being mustachioed. Yeah, it is technically gone on this December 1st, but as we record this, still rocking the Movember stash. Thank you very much to our sponsors, Movember, and everyone who
Starting point is 00:04:04 donated to the TDZ Movember stash. Thank you very much to our sponsors, Movember, and everyone who donated to the TDZ Movember page. What's the Mo for in Movember? Is that for molester? Yes. Men's health. Yes. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray!
Starting point is 00:04:22 Hey, as you know, it's the one and only Hideo Noho, a.k.a. Hideo Noho! And Hideo Noel! And let it snow! Oh, okay. Thank you so much to Rob Cunningham
Starting point is 00:04:39 at Math Demigod for that. Thank you for taking some, you know, some interesting takes with Hideo Nako. There you go. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests, one of you guys' favorite guests, a famous or sorry, a hilarious comedian,
Starting point is 00:04:55 a very talented writer and director. Sorry, that was... That was weird. That was funny. You had to roll that one back. A famously hilarious comedian. A very talented writer and director. Hilariously famous.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Hilariously famous. Who's told jokes on the CW. The PBS. Roast Battle. Bridgetown. SF's Get Fast. She's famous as fuck, y'all. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I'm extremely famous. I was on the CW one time you guys all know me yeah why does the cw get the the but not pbs or any of the other well is i don't know is it cw should i just say i've i was on cw but that sounds wrong they say i've only heard it as the cw because it was the wb before that well that's the thing when i was when i write that credit i don't know if i should capitalize the the yeah that's a great question I think it's more informal anyway
Starting point is 00:05:50 who is that who is that it is the hilarious the talented the brilliant Sarah June thank you so much also very famous so famous Sarah June and like what one of the early people to have to be yo, what the fuck is up with these NFTs, man?
Starting point is 00:06:09 What are y'all doing over here with this shit? Yeah. Straight right clicking shit and money laundering. Crypto queen. Yeah. Yo, I've been saving image as. Three little words every woman wants to hear. Save image as.
Starting point is 00:06:24 What do you do for a living? I right click. That's right. My friend was telling me about a streamer that he was watching. The streamer was like, I'm going to do an NFT. And, you know, they did bidding for it and it got up to like 200 bucks. And he was like, OK, OK, everybody. All right.
Starting point is 00:06:40 This guy won the auction. I'm going to put the I'm going to put the NFT on screen. OK, nobody save it. Only him. Only that nobody save it only him only that guy nobody else save no nobody else save okay come on honor system honor system honor system wait isn't it supposed to be like not a thing that everybody can just copy and paste i don't know yeah that's that's yeah that's the whole but jack you're making a little too much sense. You're ruining my faith in NFTs. If I don't have faith in NFTs, what do I have left?
Starting point is 00:07:13 Sorry, I just reached down into your deep well of faith. Yes. But you know what? You got a lot of clean drug money, though. I'll tell you that. Yeah, that's true. Sorry, what's good? What's new?
Starting point is 00:07:23 Your background is looking very pink. I'm pink. Yeah. I'm all about the pink. Yeah, it's good what's new your your background is looking very pink i'm pink yeah yeah i'm all about the pink uh yeah it's good i got uh i got some seeds seeds coming up that's my underrated seeds all right that's what i think is underrated seeds give it away for free it's chomping but yeah why do people say champion i thought it was because they're it's you know that's how language evolves this episode's gonna be our seinfeld episode where i ask the hard-hitting questions like why do we call the cw but not pbs
Starting point is 00:07:55 people all these these are things that i guarantee you in five years will be commonly accepted spellings that are currently considered incorrect. Reigns, when people say take the reins, what they should write is R-E-I-N-S. What they usually write is R-E-I-G-N-S. And that's incorrect, but will be commonly accepted soon. Sneak peek. People commonly write S-N-E-A-K-P-E-A-K,k even though that's not right but they've been doing it so it's going to happen yeah artesian fake word soon to be real artisanal oh people are calling it artisanal
Starting point is 00:08:36 yes people say artesian it's not real artisanal a-r-t-r-t-i-s-i-N-A-L. It should be artisanal, but it doesn't matter because it's a fake language. And they replaced artisanal with artisanal. Artisanal with artisanal. Artisanal. Oh, okay. Artisanal and artisanal. Got it. All right.
Starting point is 00:09:00 I'm confused. It started as champ at the bit, but also chomp began as a variant of champ. So either one is okay. So you could say champ too. So you know what? That's what I'm saying. Double KO. Double KO on the grammar ring.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Double KO on the grammar ring. Okay. Champing on a red apple. Champing on some pie here today. I kind of like that. Exactly, man. It's a fun day of age. Don't get me fucking started on apples, Jack.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Do not get me started on apples. I swear to God. I will take over this podcast. I'm terrified right now. Overrated. I got one word for you, Miles. Overrated. Alright. Well, that's a sneak peek of what's to come. Also
Starting point is 00:09:38 a sneak peek of what's to come is P-E-A-K. A sneak peek. A sneaky little mountain peek. We're going to... Here are some of the things we're talking about. We're talking about the Maxwell trial. Ghislaine Maxwell's trial opened with...
Starting point is 00:09:55 I guess it was the second day. But they had the pilot of the Lolita Express yesterday up there. And he talked about how he did, in fact see donald trump on that bitch you know flying just there in in all his glory which apparently i think was was the thing that people knew but i i had like he wasn't on the flight logs i remember looking into that so this was good to know because i i was on the fence about whether that guy was a was a real shithead we're going to talk about the democrats are finally uh they finally have their priorities straight and are going after bots baby we're going to talk about the steven paddock story that i think
Starting point is 00:10:40 was asked and answered a few years ago in the National Mindshare that he was just a lone nut with no clear political motive. And we're going to take a second look at that. We'll also talk about Islamophobia from Lauren Boebert. We're going to talk about Elon Musk and why privatization maybe isn't always a great idea. Anyways, we'll talk about all that shit. But more importantly, before we get to any of that, Sara, we like to get to know our guests a little bit better by asking you to take a look at your search history and tell us what's in there.
Starting point is 00:11:16 Let's go, guys. I'm doing this for real. This isn't a bit. I'm going to my real Google and looking at my search. Well, the last thing I looked up was Red Notice. What the fuck is it? Which I speaks volumes yeah it does the last thing i uh the last thing in my google search history before red notice is succession theme song piano sheet music and that is because i had to learn the theme to succession being piano proficient and watching
Starting point is 00:11:42 enough succession and man the music on that show is good. They don't have a lot of it. They have the one theme and they just kind of play it at different speeds. And like, sometimes they'll transpose it a little, but like there was a pretty exciting scene recently and it was the same thing. It was just extra fast.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Just variations on a theme. Yeah. Yeah. It's great. I won't play it for you, but rest assured I can play it uh slowly were you i mean were you stoked when you found it you're like finally let me fucking bang this out on the on the keys right now well there was a point where i was like maybe i'll uh you know
Starting point is 00:12:15 i'll give myself a little challenge and i'll uh i'll you know do an ear training and try and figure it out and i was like no i frankly my ear ears not good enough. I'm just going to look up the sheet music. Yeah. The last time I did that was to the two times I've looked up sheet music to play something on a keyboard was everything in its right place by radio head. Cause I wanted to play that on an electric piano. Great one. And then anytime by Brian McKnight,
Starting point is 00:12:42 the two most romantic songs of all time. I would love to be serenaded by you, Miles, on an electric keyboard. Oh my god. I mean, you should have... Shit. I really did that too. And I was... You know what's the saddest thing? I was single at the time, and in my mind
Starting point is 00:12:59 I was like, yo, this is a good thing to have in the fucking... You were right. You were right. You're not single now, are you? No, but when I played it, yo, this is a good thing to have in the fucking... You were right. You're not single now, are you? No, but when I played it, they said, what is this song? And please stop playing it. Yeah, no single man is...
Starting point is 00:13:14 Or I'm sorry, no partnered man is sitting there figuring out electric keyboard parts in his room. Too busy. Too busy doing other things. How are you feeling about Succession this week? I'm not caught up yet. I just started watching
Starting point is 00:13:31 this series and I've been putting it off because I like to binge. I usually will wait until I have some kind of a winter holiday. That's a nice binging time for me. Lots of hours of darkness. I'm only about halfway through season 2 so please doninging time yeah for me lots of hours of darkness so yeah i'm only about halfway through season two so please don't spoil things for me okay yeah okay everything else in my life
Starting point is 00:13:50 has already been ruined so oh so yes in its right place i'm everything's fine i was like oh yeah that last episode was intense and i'm like oh wait you're okay different one different one i'm not even saying anything don't say anything i do like it my my friend was like do you think it humanizes the rich too much and i was like i think it kind of dehumanized they're really monstrous yeah and like you know there's that's what the job of the press is is to humanize the rich that's what they generally do you know yeah rich people are very humanized and uh you know and they're they're humans but yeah man they got good fucking actors on that show i mean that sounds so stupid to say but no they got good fucking actors on that show right yeah no there there is an eeriness to it especially as it gets like they kind of start expanding the world a
Starting point is 00:14:34 little bit of what their like spheres of influence are and you're kind of like yeah yeah these people are scum and not even like the fun sopranos way like it's more like i'm more like watch it to be like let's check in on that fucked up family who has it all but like i'm glad they're unhappy because they got everything yeah it's like a fun kind of like arrested development meets veep but more dramatic and less funny right miles you're up on it you watched the most recent episode i'm i'm i started it i started it and it's getting intense. I can't. I can't.
Starting point is 00:15:07 Like, I think this might be where I stop watching the show just because I like how pathetic the premise of it is. And like the build up to this episode, every time he talks about like his birthday party, it's just like, fuck, because he's been so brutal this season to just watch at any moment you're just like god might and then like yeah for that to all come to a head hey i'm ready i'm ready i might have to you know that's why i was like i'm it's too late in the evening for me to continue it down this road so exactly let me pick it up i love love my success boys. A bit of data. I watch them. My success boys. My successos. And I'm like, man, there's barely any people of color on this show. Where my successos at?
Starting point is 00:15:51 And I'm like. Yeah, successos. Is this Fisher Stevens because he was wearing like brown face and short circuit? Does he count as a person of color in that cast? Yeah. Brown. Brown. Justin Trudeau is black now. Yeah yeah because of because of when he did blackface
Starting point is 00:16:09 it's you know you know what conservatives like to say oh if you can change genders then maybe i'm transracial just fucking sure yeah you're black now if you want to be black that's great just okay no one's gonna respect that but say enjoy it get out my face yeah what is something you think is overrated? Well, I am going to go with apples, apples, apples.
Starting point is 00:16:29 I would say overrated. Not all sorts of fruit. Yeah. Well, here's, here's the thing that I found out that kind of fucked up my whole life. Okay. All of the apples that we eat,
Starting point is 00:16:39 the, the strains that we know and love your honey crisp, your pink lady, your red, delicious, your golden,, your Red Delicious, your Golden Delicious, your Jazz, your Gala, etc. All of these fruits are made from clones of a mother tree. And they have to be made from clones because when apples reproduce sexually. Make love. Yeah. to be made from clones because when apples reproduce sexually make love yeah when apples make love they create hybrids and their hybrids are not what they call true to strain so if you were to let apples have sex in nature the way that they normally do, you end up with a completely unpredictable fruit.
Starting point is 00:17:29 This is not helpful for the needs of the marketplace. So all of our apples are literally, virtually, not virtually, I'm sorry. They are literally identical plants, genetically speaking. I'm sorry. They are literally identical plants, genetically speaking. So that means if there is some kind of a virus that affects the honey crisp apple, there's no honey crisp apples. Boom. Gone. That's it. Because there's no biodiversity. Right. We live in like apple Gattaca. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Applica. Gattaca. We grew in Gattaca. Bananas too. Bananas are all cloned from a single banana. They're Bananica. Yes, we're in Bananica and Applica. And I just think people should know.
Starting point is 00:18:46 Because once you know that all of the red delicious apples are genetically actually identical, it just feels different. of unknown unpredictable type that we are not eating because we are isolating all of our apples into single strains and not letting them fuck they're in their little prisons yeah so i mean that would probably hold true for like a lot of fruits at that point right not just apples not to say everything but i feel like that logic would tend to apply for, you know, most other cash crops. It does. It does. And so most like trees that you buy, like if you buy a lemon tree, you know, to keep the strain, you know, everything is made from cuttings. You know, they'll take cuttings. But it's strongest.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Apples are one of the most isolated because they have a tendency to hybridize so much more quickly and so much more unpredictably than most other fruits. So it's like, makes you kind of think, apples, they're up to something. You know what I mean? Yeah, I don't trust a clone. I don't really trust a clone. You shouldn't trust a clone. They're all replicants.
Starting point is 00:19:36 They're delicious little replicants. Where's the free love farmer who's like, yo, my apples fuck. And like, whatever you get, you get. But it's a mouthful and And I'll tell you that. Okay. That's a hole in the marketplace, Miles. And I think you could fill it.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Absolutely. Like there needs to be somebody who's at every farmer's market being like, all right. I got wild apples. With a sign be like, yo, they're pushing clothes over here. They're pushing clothes over here.
Starting point is 00:19:59 They want one world government and shit. Come have my delicious apples. They fuck freely on my farm and they're like shit unvaxed apples some tastes like shit but i guarantee it's a flavor you have never experienced in your life and that's kind of the whole ride yeah this one's brown delicious i know you might not have oh it's soft like a plum i was like i was gonna feel bad for apples when people talk shit on them, like Red Delicious and stuff. It's not their fault.
Starting point is 00:20:27 They tried. They tried. They tried to be better. We isolated them because we wanted a type of apple that would ship really well. We just wanted them to ship and make it so we could cut them and slice them and put them in little plastic bags and then serve them to kids in school. And they wouldn't turn to complete mush. And that's why I write delicious. It's not its fault.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Yeah, that's true. It's just a little apple. One of my favorite facts is like that pre-bananatica, bananas didn't really look like that. And same with corn on the cob. And so all of the selective breeding, we keep making the food we eat look like big dicks. Like that's just there's like something in our nature where we're like, you know, first of all, it could be bigger and more delicious.
Starting point is 00:21:14 And also just like a giant dick. Right. Just a huge. Yo, can we get some more veins on this cucumber, please? Right. Exactly. I'm tired of eating this old smooth-ass cucumber and doing shit for me. What is something you think is underrated, Sarah?
Starting point is 00:21:31 Well, I guess related. I think starting seeds is underrated. It's really, really fun. What that means? That means when you sprout a seed. When you get a seed and you sprout it and you get a plant from that as opposed to like buying a seedling or clone or whatever just the process of a seed opening up yeah boy oh boy that's a rush i have not done that i was growing weed in high school and it's a rush right yeah because oh my god
Starting point is 00:21:58 you're telling me like checking you come back from school you're like yes yes come the fuck every morning i'm up i'm gonna add my seeds i'm like who's up yeah and i'm like okay okay put the put the paper towel back on it put the paper tag i went a little too soon let it germinate let it germinate but yeah it's been a minute actually that i forgot about that excitement thank you that's what i'm saying it's underrated people got to do it more what are you there's some stuff that's so easy oh i mean so i got i got some grow lights for my sprouts because i'm doing some uh but i'm sprouting now sunflowers so i can eat those little sunflower sprouts because i love them and they're so expensive so you got to just sprout
Starting point is 00:22:35 sunflowers i mean that's the thing about sunflower sprouts is it's it's a sprout you cut it you eat it and it's gone there's no sunflower oh you gotta start it doesn't come back right damn they're fucking delicious so i got sunflowers i got like kale lettuces i got a bunch of native seeds sprouting because i'm trying to plant more native plants in my yard so wait i got uh i got some cool cool ones what is what are sunflower sprouts i never even heard of this you never had sunflower sprouts like on a sandwich or in a salad or anything? I mean, how is that different? Like, I mean, like alfalfa sprouts, like typical sprouts? No, it's the same. It's just from a sunflower seed.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Oh, but it's delicious. But they're just like, you ever seen like a sunflower come up? It's a really meaty little seed into an absolute boss. Yeah, it's big. So they're crunchy. They're yummy. All right. Yeah, it's great.
Starting point is 00:23:24 The most I've done are like garlic sprouts or like sprouts that come from like other more flavored things that have a little bit of yeah i love garlic greens dude they're so good yeah there we go i'll show you guys i mean it's not really podcast shit but you know i got a webcam i actually prefer like i'm picturing you on in the middle of just a gigantic farm with like just fields of corn and shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, in the middle of LA. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:49 But here, I'll turn my, there's my shit. Oh, yeah. You got them on the racks and everything. Yeah, I got a whole thingy. But yeah, I got like a bunch of native flowers this spring. I'm hoping to lure some butterflies towards my home. Who's that working that tractor out there on the horizon? Yeah, that's my cat.
Starting point is 00:24:13 Damn, talented. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church,
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Starting point is 00:25:24 Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote.
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Starting point is 00:28:37 It gave me hope that we might be seeing some shit in the G. L. A. Maxwell trial after, I don't know, heading into it i was like i gotta let shit anything drop right like the you know they they killed epstein like why would they let her come out and say the shit but yeah in court yesterday one of the pilots of the lolita express the pilot i believe right yeah like to the point that jeffrey epstein like put his kids through college like literally like paid their tuition bought him a home with
Starting point is 00:29:13 like acres in new mexico so he was on those flights said he had seen clinton and prince andrew which had gotten like most of the attention and which i think we had seen Clinton and Prince Andrew, which had gotten most of the attention, which I think we had seen on flight logs, but also confirmed having seen Donald Trump on the flights. The pilot claims he never saw underage girls without their parents or knew of any sexual activity happening
Starting point is 00:29:37 on the plane. Just because she's calling him daddy doesn't mean she's his parent. It's noisy in a jet with the door closed to the cockpit. Right. Jeffrey Epstein had so many daughters. Right. It was probably pretty incriminating
Starting point is 00:29:53 if he did know about that. I just imagine him at the front like a school bus driver just being like, you guys keep quiet back there. Don't make me land. Shut up. This is unsafe. Put your seatbelts on. That't make me land. Shut up. This is unsafe. Yeah. Put your seatbelts on.
Starting point is 00:30:07 That first day, though, it's wild. Like, because Maxwell's lawyer came out fucking swinging. She was like, yo, they're trying to make her escape. Go, fam. Just because Epstein's dead. They had to put the attention on somebody else. And then, like, the prosecutors had to keep objecting every every time she's like, she's a scapegoat. And they're like, objection.
Starting point is 00:30:27 Or they'd be like, she's a stand in for Jeffrey Epstein. They're like, objection. This is not. Yeah. We see what you're trying to do. Then like dragging the victims to. Yeah. the part of their strategy that I was at least, you know, thought, thought there might be some promise for us finding out some shit is that it
Starting point is 00:30:48 seems like they're going to make the case that she was like one of Epstein's victims, basically like she was being manipulated by him. And like, if that is the strategy, which it seems like it is at least partially the strategy, you know, that would,
Starting point is 00:31:05 it does seem like they would want to prove like that all the, all the powerful influence that he had over powerful people, because that would make him more unfuck withable. So I don't know. That's, that's what I'm hoping is that they kind of developed that and are like, yeah, I mean,
Starting point is 00:31:23 he told me he had compromising material on bill clinton and donald trump right if you're fully gonna like dish it off the bad guy role to the even bigger bad guy i mean you would have to do that otherwise i don't think the strategy as it is being like oh one of the accusers like does drugs right it's like what just once she was no angel right no literally and then you know she said like off the top she was like since the dawn of adam and eve she said ever since adam ever since eve was accused of tempting adam with the apple yeah women have been blamed for men's bad behavior so it was a bit of a yeah they're they're trying, her defense is trying a lot of different strategies. Pretty strong comparison there.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Yeah. No, for sure. I totally, but I think at this point when it's like so clear. Ever since one man stood up and was crucified for fucking underage girls. People have been trying to bring down a powerful guy with powerful ideas. My name is Jeffrey Epstein and I am like Jesus. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:32:29 Thank you. This is all to say we'll be keeping an eye on that trial, probably updating you if anything interesting happens. The Democrats, speaking of interesting, it seems like they finally have their priorities straight. They are going after bots.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Yeah. Bots. You say, what the fuck is a bot? And why in the middle of a pandemic and rapid exponential income inequality, why are we focusing on bots? And that's the bots are the ones changing the climate miles. Thank you. Right. The bots are the ones that are preventing the Build Back Better Act from getting passed.
Starting point is 00:33:09 So let's put it like this. If you've tried to buy a PS5 or Xbox Series X and an NVIDIA GeForce RTX card, Beyonce's Ivy Park apparel, or even Pokemon cards on the internet, chances are you have been greeted with some shit that says, sold out. And you're asking yourself, but I logged in at the time that the stuff was supposed to drop and be available. And I clicked everything. I put it in my cart in under a minute and it was still sold out.
Starting point is 00:33:35 How can that be? Well, that's because of the reselling markets use of bots. And basically, they're just like computer programs that are able to add items to cards with all the needed payment and like shipping information like instantaneously. So like you're just getting beat technologically to just put these things in a cart and process a transaction. So then scalpers and resellers take shit like to eBay or StockX and sell it for, you know, huge markup and make a lot of money. There's a story about a 16-year-old kid who did $1.7 million in revenue by reselling PS5s and all kinds of shit that he was using bots for. And only, his profit though, only $110,000. Okay, so leave him alone.
Starting point is 00:34:15 Wait, where's he getting that seed money from? I think, look, you probably, yo, I mean, if you start real small, right, you get one PS5 and you sell it for double, now you got double, and you pour that back into two PS5s that you can get with bots and then you double. I mean, there's, you know, you just got to start really small. It's Flash Boys, but with PS5s. It's like saying he only so he put in 1.6 million and made 1.7.
Starting point is 00:34:42 Like that, that suggests that at some point he had $1.6 million. I think that was his net revenue. So I don't know if that's just basically, I think when you add up everything that he sold and then taking off, like recouping his little cut. I don't know how numbers work. Me either. And it doesn't matter,
Starting point is 00:35:01 but that's why Representatives Paul Tonko of New York, Senator Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, Chuck Schumer and Ben Ray Lujan of New Mexico, they have all announced they're pushing for the Stop Grinch Bots Act. But specifically, the Stopping Grinch Bots Act would expand on a law passed in 2016 that outlawed bots from circumventing control measures to put tickets to like music concerts and sports, like essentially just say making it illegal for scalpers to resell tickets like this. And this legislation that they're pushing now would essentially take, say, this applies now to all online retail sites. So if you're a sneaker head, you're like, oh, shit, look at that. all online retail sites. So if you're a sneaker head, you're like, Oh shit,
Starting point is 00:35:44 look at that. I might have a chance at getting a sneaker or if you want your Pokemon card or fuck it. Even sometimes you see restaurant reservations go up instantly because people use bots to even get restaurant reservations. So, you know, it would be really bad is if they use these to vote. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:02 Well, look, we should stop it before they can can do that right yeah one thing at a time we got to get in early on this problem so i mean i think this on one level you're like okay that's interesting but this also feels like a real low effort attempt to make it seem like the party's doing something and like that like that there's like yeah we get a supply chain stuff like you're we hear complaints from parents trying to get certain things and it's these fucking bots, you know. So we're going to handle that and vote blue no matter who.
Starting point is 00:36:32 All right. They'll always they'll always act when it's in the interest of like people spending money, consumerism, like making consumer culture like unless it's like consumer protections it's like that weird fine line it's like we're gonna make it easier for you to give away your money but we're gonna make it hard as fuck to get your money back right exactly it's like a like a fucking like a old school like wooden fish trap where it's like they get in but it can't come out that's right yeah i mean a teenager making money on the internet that's uh that could be a big problem if we don't do something about it absolutely what what's next hundred and ten thousand dollars that's for a child that's absurd no but a child should not be making that much
Starting point is 00:37:14 money you know that's the that's adult money adult money for for billionaires yeah 100 this is like was he he's not he's not paying he can't be paying taxes on that hundred and ten thousand that's like 50 you know That's like $500,000 The government's missing out on Selfish teenager Quit asking if I'm Looking at my $1099 shit Ask this young man where the fuck his $110,000
Starting point is 00:37:37 Came from Yeah It could be cool If online sales Worked better I feel like it's you know, it could be cool if if online sales worked better. I feel like it's maybe like the 500th priority that they should be paying attention to right now. Generously. Oh, yeah. But again, that's why it just feels like one of those things that eat real easy win because like Chuck Schumer's words are even like it shouldn't be so hard during the holidays to get the gifts that you need to make memories you
Starting point is 00:38:06 know it's like this like i give a fuck energy when it's not has nothing to do with this and i think it helps bro give me money right exactly money about extended unemployment benefits okay shut the fuck up i said we're gonna handle the box right now and then maybe we'll talk we're gonna make sure you get your slippers in time those slippers that you ordered you gotta get them especially because you know that was on oprah's list so we can't fuck around and have that not be available oprah will take this country down well speaking of oprah taking this country down actually this next story has nothing to do with that although uh dr oz has announced for uh that he's running for senate so that could be oprah taking this country down down the path of victory uh because yeah dr oz is a hero personal hero of mine one of the
Starting point is 00:38:53 greats to ever do it one of the greatest doctors one of the greatest doctors he is actually a good doctor who just uh you got phil oz drew gupta the classic doctors. Dr. Oz, the biggest tragedy of Dr. Oz is he was actually like one of the nation's top heart surgeons and gave that up to go do this bullshit. Well, now he's now he's in the nation's hearts. Yeah, exactly. He's in the hearts of all. And saying, you know, ladies, the vagina is like a self-cleaning of it. That's right. You're like, OK, don't.
Starting point is 00:39:23 Why are you doing a whole segment on this, Dr. Oz? This that's some real shit yeah it gets hot yeah i'm not joking there's a whole clip where he's explaining you're like this is the weirdest tv i've ever fucking seen like why and like watching people in the audience like oh wow self-cleaning oven huh right with like a stage-sized model of the vagina that you could walk through. That's sick. I clean my oven with a Lysol douche. Like a Summer's Eve. I put Summer's Eve in my oven.
Starting point is 00:39:53 There you go. Yeah. After I fuck it. I don't want it to get pregnant. I don't want to get a bun in there. There you go. That's stupid. That's fucking stupid. I'm sorry, guys sorry guys that's stupid it's actually probably where dr oz came up with the oven metaphor was yeah people talk about getting a button in the oven yeah i should be making more money i should be making that dr oz money
Starting point is 00:40:15 yeah well so uh this is just kind of kind of an update but you know in response to last week's story about kyle rittenhouse the fact that people weren't calling him a right wing extremist, even though he was at Trump rallies and a supporter of Blue Lives Matter and, you know, things that supremacy hand signs. Yeah. One of our readers, Fuzzy Rage Monster is actually the display name on Twitter. Thank you, reader. Suggested we look at the FBI's investigation into Steven Paddock, the Las Vegas shooter. Because according to... Oh, Mr. Mandalay, Mr. Mandalay Bay. Yeah, Mr. Mandalay Bay.
Starting point is 00:40:52 Like the record that made it through to like sort of the national shared consciousness was that he was like a lone nut. They couldn't figure out a motive. He basically got like the Oswald treatment that he was just had a screw loose and was that's a strong implication yeah yeah yeah the oswald treatment yeah yeah oh so it was somebody else yeah well i'm not saying no but like the way that they just treated oswald and going nuts the
Starting point is 00:41:21 jfk assassination as like apolitical that's what they did with right too they were just like nothing to see here move along but according to like you know just a a small amount of looking people who are familiar with him say he was radically anti-government and like trying to start a war to get people to rise up because he thought the government was coming for our guns yeah and yeah he was like so this country needs a wake-up call or some country needs to wait we need to wake up the american public and get them to arm themselves in response to looming threats but it was a country music festival so i think a lot of those people already right had guns or or were pro-gun at least he was uh trying to get the biggest bang.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Like he was researching where he could. Bang for his buck. Yeah, literally. He spent a lot of time researching, okay, where could I kill the most people? And this is the one that he came up with. But he made reference. So he was trying to buy a gun part
Starting point is 00:42:23 used to convert semi-automatic firearms into a fully automatic machine gun and the gun dealer was like oh that's illegal i don't do that and he like became enraged and made reference to this is from the intercept a litany of anti-government conspiracy theories including supposed plans by the federal emergency management administration fema to set up detention camps of americans and plans for widespread confiscation of firearms including supposed plans by the Federal Emergency Management Administration, FEMA, to set up detention camps of Americans and plans for widespread confiscation of firearms. Paddock believed that Hurricane Katrina in 2005 was just a dry run for law enforcement and military to start kicking down doors and confiscating guns, which, you know, is part, like that seems to be in the same category, like connected.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Is he saying that they, that Katrina was engineered or just that the government took the opportunity? I think, I think there's a lot of people who think it was engineered. The hurricane? Not the hurricane, the breaching of the walls. I think they're... The levees, yeah. The levees. People think that they were blown up to create the walls. I think they're... The levees, yeah. The levees. People think that they were
Starting point is 00:43:26 blown up to create the disaster. But it's... This is part of a sort of mainstream of extremist ideology and conspiracy thinking that
Starting point is 00:43:42 has only become more mainstream since paddock perpetrated one of the one of the biggest terrorist attacks in the history of the united states and you know no ideology though no no no ideology it like i think the fact that it was a gun because america is like very forgiving of those like if he had blown up that many people like I think there they would have had a harder time like just kind of yada yada in it but it's just I think it is really damaging that they you know came up with that sort of down the middle explanation it was also at a time when homeland Security and FBI agents were saying that they were being forced to downplay the threat of white supremacists and other, you know, right wing terror by the Trump White House. But certainly hasn't like, you know, there's been mention of that becoming a priority under Biden.
Starting point is 00:44:38 But he hasn't like been like, for instance, look at this massive terror attack. For instance, look at this massive terror attack. This guy had right wing beliefs that he was like very angry about in the lead up to this massive terror attack. But they don't even call it. He also just like went up. He went up to the top floor of a hotel with like eight fucking duffel bags full of huge guns. And everyone was like, seems right. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:02 Yeah. Just a normal guy. Wait, what's and it and it and it's funny because it's like even whether or not like law and federal law enforcement must be like man we were under pressure it's like look at your track record homie like you didn't need no fucking pressure like this is what you do you're either trying to set people up if they're muslim or black or whatever and attract people and be like hey man Terror plot thwarted Even though we basically set the whole thing up
Starting point is 00:45:27 And then in this case just Not even managing to Give people some semblance of an idea Of like what the threats that the country Faces by saying yeah I mean When you look at it he's definitely on the Right side of the spectrum looking at some Interesting stuff on the internet so
Starting point is 00:45:43 That might be somewhere to start but It's easier to just make it very clean and sanitized and say i mean there's no way to tell like why someone would do this when they're not muslim so yeah exactly like attacks carry out by muslims and middle easterners are routinely labeled as terrorism while anything carried out by non-Muslims like Paddock are not. That's kind of the rule. He was a landlord, Jack. Right, exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:13 He was a good guy. Wait, he was a landlord? Yeah, he was a landlord. We need to issue an apology then. Yeah, he's just trying to provide housing to help people. It couldn't be more of need to issue an apology then yeah yeah he's just trying to provide uh provide housing in a in a you know help help people yeah yeah it couldn't be more of like what america values as a landowner
Starting point is 00:46:32 who like manipulates but you know like that's the thing when we talk every time it's kyle rittenhouse it's it's fucking i can't there's all of these people who like to go outside the law to you know maintain the white status quo just an inability to just describe it for what it is like it just and the mainstream media can never do that because they can't i think the the the fear of having people being like how could you say that it's like, you need to actually open up your eyes, person who's angry and reading it, like calling in. Because this is actually this is this is the path we're on. But no one's really articulating it in a way that makes for, you know, objective assessment of where we are. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:19 My mom, like, watches the news, but I guess she she had heard of Kyle Rittenhouse, but she never knew what he did. And she was like, so who's Kyle Rittenhouse? And I was like, oh, he shot a bunch of people. She was like, really? The way they talk about him, I thought he was like a basketball player or something. Because of the way that they talked about him, like, with a lot of respect. And with a lot of like, this guy's important and you know they talk about the case because the case is important of course but right there was you know no point at which it was really driven home what he had done when he had done it and that adults had helped him do it she thought he was a grown adult who was like straight up in the nba right the way they talked the way they said Kyle Rittenhouse.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Yeah, sure. I mean, it's again, it was wild to see how many, you know, it's in New York times or other, you know,
Starting point is 00:48:13 big news outlets be like, just take any of the language out that would describe what his, what the charges were ideologically, or even describing people like, like not being too much like any shot. This one guy dead it was like and then you know after this dude attacked him like very much and i get to like if you're sort of objectively describing the situation that's one thing but there's a lot of rhetorical strategery around that that felt very like and it's just and it's just a shame what happened to this young man just scared it's just it's chaotic it's and it's just, and it's just a shame what happened to this young man. Just scared.
Starting point is 00:48:45 It's just, it's chaotic. It's chaotic. It's. Yeah. I mean, it's pretty chaotic for your mom to drive you to a riot with a gun in your hand. That's pretty fucking chaotic, you know? And that like, I didn't, I didn't find out about that until pretty recently. And it seems to me a really important detail.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Yeah. When it comes to figuring out what happened and with one intentions yeah i mean just talking about the both sides in of these sorts of stories miles you were you were pointing out this lauren bobert ilhan omar story where yeah yeah so you know it's pronounced bober yeah rudy yeah so bobert out here gogurt made some just, you know, off the wall Islamophobic remarks over the Thanksgiving break. She was talking to a group of supporters, like literally like like a group of old grizzled bikers and stuff were like so horny for her. She was like, so I was in an elevator at the Capitol and saw an officer sprinting towards me. And then this is from this news article, quote, she then turned and saw Ilhan Omar standing nearby. And this is what Boebert said, quote,
Starting point is 00:49:49 I said, well, she doesn't have a backpack. We should be fine. And then the audience was like laughing and stuff. And then she's going to say, and I said, oh, look, the Jihad squad decided to show up for work today. So, you know, pretty, I think we all all i think we all know what that's pretty cute i think lauren knows that jihad you know in islam is not just in reference to attacks of violence or terrorism but is a term used to describe the moral struggle of every uh of every person and every muslim to do to do right you know by the way it's a spiritual struggle. And I think that Lauren Boebert knew that. That's what she was. She was like the jihad squad who struggle every day to improve our country and to, you know, do their jobs. That's what she was saying, I think. And I find that really admirable. So, Miles, I don't understand why you would
Starting point is 00:50:41 just slander her like that. She defines intifada after this. And that's where the web milk. The intifada squada. She then goes on, you know, again, Ilhan Omar is like, this is completely made up. First of all, you should see whenever I pass her in the hall, she has her eyes low. She doesn't even look me in my eyes. So don't even tell me that we're gonna be in an elevator together that's just straight up bullshit and then so this kicked off the whole thing again
Starting point is 00:51:10 because the gop was already dealing with the censure of paul gosar going after another woman of color in congress and they're like fuck so kevin mccarthy tried to like get the healing started up by being like well she apologized to me bobert also gave her you know very standard non-apology to any muslims that may have been offended kind of shit and then so they got the she so bobert called omar and the shit just you know it didn't go anywhere because ilhan omar was expecting some kind of apology and she was just kind of doubling down on her stance and like being like okay i'm sorry to a point but, don't make me say apologies like out loud in public. That's not going to happen.
Starting point is 00:51:47 Because I honestly didn't have a backpack. And so like, I don't feel like I was lying because you didn't have a backpack. Also, like that is like so tired. It's like it's like a stupid meme I see on TikTok a lot, too. So part of me almost feels like she's getting some of her writing ideas from TikTok videos that are that are whack. But they go on. 100% dude, 100% Lauren Boe bobert is like wake up on tiktok like oh she's like oh there's of course of course she's like scrolling through the all the girls
Starting point is 00:52:11 who are like i didn't get my vaccination but here's a picture of my fake vax card right exactly smart right or even like just stupid dance memes or someone would be like this person handed me a backpack and ran away and like it's like a dude like in a dark outfit meant to look like a terrorist and like these are dancing like wait what and it cuts i love those dances or it's like someone's like doing the cry baby and they're like did you know trauma can affect your childhood right so you know this is the thing the ground she bobert isn't you know obviously she's not a politician she's just a mascot for these people who only want to see bigots get up to a microphone and just attack people.
Starting point is 00:52:47 And the New York Times, again, we're talking about both sizing. This is how they, you know, clearly Lauren Boebert has a track record of ridiculously bigoted, Islamophobic, racist statements. But the New York Times describes the spat like this. The two women, this quote, the two women have their fans and detractors, but they could not be more different. Miss Omar, Somali refugee and leader of the House Progressive Caucus, represents a diverse and liberal district that includes most of Minneapolis and its near in suburbs. reopened during the pandemic against state orders and where servers are encouraged to carry guns unsealed unseated a five-term republican in 2020 by running far to his right in a largely rural mountain district and you're like okay and then like meanwhile people uh they have different positions but they're doing the same job right and you're like this is again wow way to you know
Starting point is 00:53:41 carry water for for her but then you'll see like other articles around this that were trying to paint, like, act like as if Ilhan Omar has blood on her hands too, just because she was critical of Israeli policies. And like, that's whole, like while also platforming like Boebert's dumb quotes and like other shit that she said in defense, like how she's like, I'm a strong Christian woman
Starting point is 00:54:04 and Omar is a terrorist that hates jewish people and police and not much analysis after that just be like that's what she says so there's your news folks it's funny that she was talking shit about like someone who she can't even like look in the eyes at work because yeah she's like yeah and that's when i told him you're not the boss of me fuck boy all right right it's like uh you didn't say that shit man no you're right and i pointed my finger in her face and she she cried she cried in that elevator right and she'll say to you that she didn't but you know i saw her cry she cried i seen it she called her mom right after and she's like she was really mean to me again but yeah But yeah, that's some Debo energy that Ilhan Omar was telling her.
Starting point is 00:54:49 She's like, you don't even look me in the eye. You turn your eyes down when you see me. That's Ellen shit. Yeah. Right. And also, you didn't find all my toothpicks, did you? That's right. You're slipping on your cleaning job.
Starting point is 00:55:01 I saw she after the shooting on the set of rust she wore a t-shirt that said uh guns don't kill people alec baldwin does which is uh pretty cold and i think uh took away kind of the wrong message from what happens when you have a loaded gun on a set wait ellen did no no lauren bober oh yeah that would have been funny Ellen did? No, no. Lauren Boebert. Oh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would have been funny. That would have been fucking funny if Ellen just goes right wing. Whoa. Whoa. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:55:32 Ellen could be president if she went right wing, 100%. If Ellen DeGeneres went alt-right, she'd be president in a second. Oh, she'd be smashing the suburbs. She'd be like, Democrats, I'm gay, so I've got you by the throat. Republicans, check it out. I'm rich as fuck and I'm a monster.
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Starting point is 01:00:25 zeitgeist elon musk love to quote him love uh everything he has to say sir elon sir elon what what a what a genius he's he's cool he's fun this is me doing an impression of like 20 of males in america right now anyway pretty good impression jack so there's this uh section of the book wisdom of crowds where they talk about like how dumb crowds can actually be and they use the challenger disaster as an as a example and it's just this like slow motion train wreck where like a handful of really obstinate leaders like are told multiple times hey these o-rings are malfunctioning when they get below this temperature there's a very good chance that launch date it'll be below this temperature people could die and they just kind of took that as like okay that's one opinion however we want to
Starting point is 01:01:27 launch on this date so uh who else has some thoughts and just it was like half of the people in the room or maybe not half but like a handful of the people who are in the room like planning this launch were like knew that it was going to explode when it took off but they just like would not fucking listen to them because they had a deadline to hit and also because the shuttles hadn't blown up to that point and so they thought they were like kind of invincible but this is exactly what producing is like this is like everything that i've ever produced is there's three people going we can't do that we don't have the money and it's not going to work. And then three other people going, well, but we really want it. But what if we did? Okay. But what if we just do? I'm not paying you to tell me what I can't do.
Starting point is 01:02:13 I'm asking you to do the impossible. And if you don't do it, I'm going to be upset, even though I told you it was impossible. Okay. So you want us to shoot a car chase with gunfire being exchanged and you don't even want to pay for short-term liability okay i don't know how do you know anything about production so where do you want to put uh where do you how do you want to attach the camera to the car oh you just want us to run run alongside the car with the okay someone's gonna hold me by the hip someone holds me by the hips and i lean out okay anyways this uh this el this Elon Musk story kind of seems like that on steroids because he the day after Thanksgiving
Starting point is 01:02:51 you always know a cool boss when he's sending out a very troubling mean email the day after Thanksgiving. Like on a holiday weekend. Yeah, on a holiday weekend. He is like... Team no sleep. Guys, SpaceX is gonna go bankrupt unless you start making these engines faster. Apparently, they're...
Starting point is 01:03:10 Don't tell people that, dude. Yeah. You fucking idiot. I hope someone's like, good. Yeah. Yeah. So, but he's basically threatening their livelihood, basically being like, you guys are going to be unemployed this time next year. If you can't, like, fix guys are going to be unemployed this time next year if you can't fix
Starting point is 01:03:25 this bottleneck in the supply chain. These engines are going to be... I can't believe moving to Texas didn't fix everything for him. I know. That's why it's like, without the regulations, I thought he was home free. But these are the engines that are supposed to be sending
Starting point is 01:03:41 their rockets into orbit next year. That's the thing they're supposed to be sending their rockets into orbit next year. That's the thing they're supposed to be doing is launching both. And his goal is to be launching these rockets into orbit every two weeks in 2022.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Just like firing them up at the sky like a fucking firework show. Is he going to be in one? Well, that's the thing is like some of them are going to be going to have people on board. So it's like he's reacting to short term market
Starting point is 01:04:14 indicators like any CEO does, which is without any regard for like what is actually good for the long term health of the company and more just like what's going to happen next week, what's going to happen at the next board meeting and earnings call. How many times do we have to watch this happen
Starting point is 01:04:34 and have it fully documented? Like Juicero, Theranos, SpaceX. It's not different. It's the same. You just lie and you say you have a technology that you don't. People give you a bunch of money and then you go, all right, engineers, make it happen. And they go, actually, we can't. Right. And then you lose all your money.
Starting point is 01:04:54 It's not like we haven't seen this happen before. Right. Yeah. I just love his. We're literally having the Theranos trial now. Like what? What world are people living in Yeah
Starting point is 01:05:06 He made a flamethrower It's weird I think because he has a track record Of other things that happened Then it's like there's like this But he has a much larger track record Of saying other things are going to happen That didn't happen And it's like okay yeah PayPal
Starting point is 01:05:23 PayPal works yes What about the tunnels What about the fucking flamethrowers or whatever the fuck hey i don't know all this other shit hyperloop yeah hyperloop nothing else works nothing else happened yeah and the paypal is a website it wasn't ambitious yeah he so this seems to be kind of in keeping with Tesla also where Tesla was, you know, can make a cool car, but they can't make it fast enough to like be a profitable company. And so he just basically gets mad at the people producing it and like starts threatening them and doing like all sorts of wild shit. threatening them and doing like all sorts of wild shit like there's stories of him threatening his you know employees who were like these conditions are inhumane man he's just like yeah uh all right you're fired and okay i'm about to show you inhumane i'm gonna show up at your house on thanksgiving and uh yeah go fuck yourself but yeah it's it like, I don't know. He seems like he will take a cool
Starting point is 01:06:27 idea and then just be like, yeah, we're going to be doing this at scale. And the fact that that is impossible, be damned. So yeah, it just seems like he doesn't care about the people who work for him. He cares about the end goal. And oftentimes his end goal is unrealistic. You know, the safety of Tesla cars has come into question. And this is a higher stakes version of that. And it just it just seems like this is maybe why we thought privatizing space travel wasn't a great idea. But we'll see. You know, maybe it'll work out great. Who knows? Well, speaking of technology malfunctions, we had a blackout. Sarah is back with us. She is on her iPhone.
Starting point is 01:07:12 Hello. Hello. And I'm not going to blame it all on Elon Musk, but it certainly didn't help. I think he heard it. Grimes definitely had a hand in that, for sure. Yes, for sure. Yeah. She's made herself virtual
Starting point is 01:07:26 and she is traveling through the internet protecting the good name of yeah she's a little fairy she used to go on TikToks about Elon Musk and defend him yeah I know those were the days yeah well sorry June
Starting point is 01:07:43 it has been such a pleasure having you. Where can people find you and follow you? I am on Instagram at Corpse Flower. That's Corpse, F-L-O-U-R. And I am on the internet at SarahJune.online. That's my website. There it is. And you can send me an email.
Starting point is 01:08:04 You can send me money. You can, you know, just watch all my videos. Sometimes people do that. And then they tell me, I went on your website and I watched all your videos. And I go, oh, wow. And then we don't really talk about it in more detail because I don't know how to respond. But that could be you. Could be you, dear leader.
Starting point is 01:08:24 I said dear leader dear listener dear damn we're doing a north korean podcast now and is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying there is uh because because my computer's uh fucked up now i will probably be paraphrasing it but the tweet that i that i did want to share with you was uh from jake flores at feral Jokes. And it was something like, oh, the woke mob is now coming for Ghislaine Maxwell, a queer woman I see. That's amazing.
Starting point is 01:08:55 A good one. Miles, where can people find you? What's the tweet you've been enjoying? Man, find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Grey. Also, the other show, 4 for 20 day fiance with Sophia Alexandra, uh, where we talk 90 day fiance and doing that whole damn thing. Uh,
Starting point is 01:09:12 some tweets I like first one is from, uh, at Baba Duke Newcomb, Bella Lugosi's dad tweeted. Oh, you don't care. You don't care that organized gangs are robbing home Depot. Well,
Starting point is 01:09:24 I bet you'll care when they rob your house. Dude, why would 10 guys come to my house to steal hammers? Name one reason why that would happen. And one more from at Jamie Loftus help. Do you think Sally Rooney's husband reads her sex scenes and is like, yeah, exactly. For the literati out there. Yeah, yeah. Alright, let's see. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore
Starting point is 01:09:54 O'Brien. Liking tweets such as these. Kate Lambert tweeted, one person on every flight from Chicago to Paris should be allowed to scream mid-flight, Kevin! Always a good bit to shout that as the plane is about to take off.
Starting point is 01:10:10 Radz tweeted, me, God, I love how you feel inside me. Surgeon, why is she awake? And then Hannah Dickinson tweeted, what's upsetting about hearing my neighbor have sex is realizing she can hear me ask my dog if we're best friends multiple times a
Starting point is 01:10:25 day you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and our website dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do we think people might enjoy? Oh, man, let's go out on a nice little track out of Kingston, Jamaica, from my bygone era. This is Derek Harriot, H-A-R-R-I-O-T-T,
Starting point is 01:10:58 with his track called The Loser. It's like a pretty famous track if you're into, you know, if you're into the reggae styles. But it's just got like, I mean, I think it's from the Psychedelic Train, that album. So, yeah, maybe late 60s. Anyway, great track, great artist, good vibes to take you into this December to Remember event. Just interesting that they took the same approach as the cw to a beck song title and we're like right now this isn't a loser this is the right all right well the daily
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