The Daily Zeitgeist - Eracism, IKEA vs Daily Zeitgeist 3.29.21

Episode Date: March 29, 2021

In episode 846, Jack and Miles are joined by super producer DJ Danl Goodman to discuss a Georgia lawmaker being arrested for knocking on the trash can Kemp's door, continuing attacks on Asian people a...nd the police denial surrounding it, the overlap in liberal responses to Trump versus MAGA responses to Biden, the right's attack on Biden's cognitive ability, election fraud, Trump the mafia don, Kraft's anti-veggie campaign, the IKEA podcast, and more!FOOTNOTES: GA Rep. Arrested For Knocking On Guv’s Door As He Signed GOP’s Anti-Voting Bill Released From Jail Keven Quiroz Of Tustin Arrested In Assault On Elderly Man In Irvine; Police Say Dispute Was Over Unleashed Dog Anonymous tip leads to arrest of Tustin man for alleged assault of elderly man in Irvine Murder of Vincent Chin Washington's growing obsession: The 25th Amendment MAGA World says Biden's lost it. Republican senators disagree. WATCH: “Peter Doocy is not Jim Acosta” Trump’s secret sit-down with Ohio candidates turns into ‘Hunger Games’ Industry watchdog group slams Kraft for mocking veggies WATCH: Kraft: Table Escape Ikea ends publication of iconic printed catalog The Ikea catalog is now a podcast IKEA 2021 catalog delayed to fix potentially racist image LISTEN: The Box (Nick Bike & Adam Doubleyou 'Controlla' Mix) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:39 An earlier version. I mean, you didn't fuck up. Christy fucked up using the wrong cape. I wasn't up on his revision. That's on me. Anyways, I am thrilled to be joined by my co-host
Starting point is 00:02:55 Mr. Miles Gray! I don't want to wait for the part to be over. I know right now a funny tweet. I don't want to wait for the part to be over. With some stuff to plug so that you can eat. Wow.
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Starting point is 00:03:54 for that one. Paula Cole giving a, you know, Paula Cole the rose. Wow, what a show. What a time to be alive. We are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the brilliant, the talented. He is DJ Dan O'Goodman! My name is Dan Zula, the mic ruler, game of school.
Starting point is 00:04:19 You want a pod? I'll bring it to ya. Oh! What up, y'all? What's up? Wait, come on. Now keep going. Let's get the whole Aqua Teen theme song going. There's more, but the rest of it was kind of a little bit off the beat.
Starting point is 00:04:30 And I was like, we're going to leave it at that right there. Okay. But shout out to Matt Frederick at Matt underscore Frederick nine. Thank you so much for the Aqua Team. Matt Frederick from Sister Podcast? I actually think it's's a different Matt Frederick. I don't know, man. That's a very unique name.
Starting point is 00:04:51 That's a very unique name. Two first names? Come on. I don't know. Come on. DJ Danil back again. It is so good to be here. Back in the cradle of life.
Starting point is 00:05:06 On the other side. What's good, man? What's new with you? What's good, man, Daniel? You know, not a mucho. You know, a lot of the same. Just moved into a spot with the... Still working on the Spanish skills.
Starting point is 00:05:17 Exactly. Still working on the Spanish skills. Just moved into a new apartment with my own, Her Majesty. And it's been uh it's been wait that's where she's over there with you because she hasn't been home in two days yeah that's that's his way of telling him she is my own you know with my her majesty oh you love to see it and i love to hear the adoption of the proper nomenclature for talking about our significant others. Truly.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I mean, she is the queen. How is the, you know, this is, how many times you been like living with a boo thing? This is my first time. This is my first time living with a significant other. I know. How's that going? How's that going? It's going well so far.
Starting point is 00:06:00 I mean, you know, there's adjustments for both of us. But overall, it's been great. You're such an easygoing dude. I'm because I feel like you're probably like the best person to like for the other party to move in with. You're very kind. I appreciate that. Like because you're a very considerate person, like at your own expense. Sometimes it's like, yes, it's OK.
Starting point is 00:06:20 I don't need to sit on a normal sleep. I can work with these milk crates. Oh, Daniel, such a trooper, man. Definitely adjusting the... Are you whispering? My man. He goes over and closes the door and turns the lights out. It's funny because that's literally what I was going to say.
Starting point is 00:06:44 I was going to say adjusting the volume of my voice i have a i have a post-it note on my computer that says stop yelling because i've been i uh it's i i put that there myself that wasn't something that that you did and that stephanie came in and was like you need to quiet down i'm like i i'm in a like uh the room the office is not filled with shit yet so i can hear the echo furniture before shit though fair play i totally that's a really good point thank you i started smearing it and it smells terrible yeah but yeah otherwise it doesn't help the acoustics contrary to what you believe they keep telling me that i think i was getting trolled so you have to
Starting point is 00:07:21 so you have to so she's adjusting to your loud talking. Yes. And then what are you adjusting? What are what are the what's your growth opportunity in terms of rearranging your expectations and feelings of entitlement in your living space? adjustment but is really something that i just needed to change in general is just eating better she has a very low tolerance for like shitty food in general and i really appreciate that because it gets me to not be like oh it's late and i'm hungry dominoes is still open right yeah and then also yeah not having not having two bros around who are also probably high and can also be coerced into ordering dominoes with me just after a bit like you're you're not hungry are you sure yeah come on dude if it was here you'd eat it right if it was here you'd eat it right all right if it was here that's what i thought so when i get it you're not gonna want to slice you're not exactly okay okay drag them down with you crabs
Starting point is 00:08:21 in a bucket and the best two is like the group like a reason like you're like yeah i kind of eat a small lunch though so yeah we could probably just finish the whole right yeah we should probably get two because i'll probably eat a whole one yeah is that something you learned the hard way like she caught you just like housing an entire domino's pizza like in the bathroom in the middle of the night okay yeah. It's only been just about a month. So the cravings haven't hit that hard yet. It sounds like you're actually terrible. You're bringing in bad eating habits.
Starting point is 00:08:53 You talk too loud and she's perfect. Sounds about right. Yes. Yeah, precisely. She is perfect. See, look at you. Couldn't even. The thing I was like, what are you adjusting to?
Starting point is 00:09:02 You were like, she's healthy and helping me improve my life. Just being around someone who's better than me and will accept just the bullshit that I bring. My thing, just straight up, is whenever I've moved in, a couple times I've lived with a partner, is always having to be upfront about my need for personal, my alone time. Just as your only child, i recharge in solitude so like that's one thing i'm always like i gotta let you know like it's not nothing personal yes this is how i get down that was that was something that was super i would say like convenient for both of us is that like she has pretty much only lived alone um since you know entering adulthood and so in in terms of entertaining herself and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:09:46 she's like, I'm chill on my own. You don't have to... You want to go do whatever you want. That's fine. I'm like, what did I say? Put those flowers away. I don't need anything right now. And I've had to adjust to the fact that she hates peonies.
Starting point is 00:10:01 And I keep getting that wrong. I'm trying chrysanthemums next. Yo, I was just about to say I'm 13 years in and still finding out all sorts of things about myself. It is actually
Starting point is 00:10:18 today is my 13th wedding anniversary. Congratulations. Shout out to my wife. yeah 13 years ago uh dj daniel rocked a party uh at my wedding can i um can i tell you a funny story about that wedding yeah yeah yeah so so i was on acid well no but um i was i was 18 i was in college it was my i think i was just like i'm literally looking here. What month is it like I'm in my second semester of my first year of college. Thank you. My second semester of my first year of college. And, you know, it was a wedding. So the bartender is like, you look all right to me. And I think at the time, it was an open bar party. And i just remember my mom at that party seeing me drink
Starting point is 00:11:06 my first of all drinks gin and tonic of the evening and my mom on the dance floor says to me dan just just don't be that guy right you know and then don't be that guy and then you ended up being that guy man i gotta tell you uh pants around his ankles by the end of the night pants around his ankle what was your nickname after that piss windmill that's cool though i don't know what that means that sounds tight it was actually impressive it was actually impressive drunken break dancing i'm glad you thought so. My mom was horrified, but alas, here we are. No. You behaved yourself admirably. Well, I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Yeah. Shout out to my wife for putting up with me for 13 years. I was going to say the thing that I've had, like I am a whole probably 40% slower than a person should be just in all aspects of human functioning for the first like three hours that I'm awake and being around her. She hits like gets out of bed and is sprinting when she hits the ground. Yeah. I open one eye at a time over 40 minutes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Yeah. Yeah. Sounds about right. Sounds like we're time over 40 minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Sounds about right. Sounds like we're in a similar boat. Yeah. Anyways, Daniel, as you know, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. We're going to talk about the arrest of a Georgia lawmaker. And it's not the one that should be
Starting point is 00:12:47 arrested it's actually somebody knocking on that politician's door someone knocked on uh governor kemp's door and got arrested for doing so for knowingly knocking i believe yes yeah whatever that means yeah it wasn't accidental um i want to talk about the trend we're seeing of attacks on Asian people in America being explained away by the police as having nothing to do with ethnicity. uh last week and now uh there's another kind of example of a 69 year old asian man who was attacked by a 20 something man uh while he was walking his dog and the police have done the same shit and i just want to look at the history of that there's a really troubling historical precedent for that i want to look at a a couple of the storylines that we're now seeing used against Joe Biden that we also saw being used against Trump from sort of the MSNBC mainstream media. Just wondering if this is like a new rhythm to presidencies and air modern era of like everybody being kind of siphoned off into their own bubbles.
Starting point is 00:14:12 If like these are the storylines that will emerge about every president until somebody tears Twitter and Facebook down. We're going to talk about all sorts of just uh republican fuckery we'll talk about craft anti-veggie campaign all of that plenty more but first dj daniel yes uh what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are well also in the spirit of moving in toilet bowl brushes oh man looking up them toilet bowl brushes that's been so you know uh my partner you take huge shits right i take huge shits just like the bowl in there honey those event horizons where it like peers out over the water it's just always one of those ones it's just it's a mess the listeners it's always become so shit i know sorry I know. Sorry about that. It's a shitty podcast, guys.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Second rate, more like a number two podcast. There we go. So, toilet bowl brushes. In the process of getting things for the house, we've had different responsibilities. And while Stephanie is covering the main things, like the couch and the bed frame, she's like, why don't you look up a good toilet bowl brush i'm like babe i got you on that one no problem let's get it and so uh yeah i've
Starting point is 00:15:34 been searching a lot of those and the market is ripe there are so many toilet bowl brushes out there of all different designs and shapes now that I was. I mean, I'm thrilled by it. There's just there's a lot. And it's very it's very fun to shop. Well, it's a new technology. I mean, I feel like they need a new technology. It's pretty gross.
Starting point is 00:15:57 It is toilet bowl brushes exist and we just leave them there. And I'm trying to come up with like maybe like a squirt bottle or something that we could uh we could use or i don't know isn't like the other lazy versions like you put the thing in your toilet tank so then like it's always just kind of like there's like some kind of with that blue shit remember like in the night right it looks like a detergent liquid yeah or you or you stick one on the side of the i don't know. Bingo. Yeah, exactly. I just throw a couple of those in there every time I go to the bathroom. Just drop a couple in.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Keep them with me. You're gonna need that. Plop, plop, fizz, fizz. Oh my god. Guys, we got it. We're off the air. We're off the internet. What's happening? Who knew? i remember like anytime
Starting point is 00:16:46 i would move into a new place back back in the day there was a bed bath and beyond trip that always took place oh yeah oh yeah we had we handled the bed bath and beyond trip got our necessary you know shower curtain hangers and all that jive but the uh the other thing the the funny thing about the toilet bowl brush is that babe i found a really a couple really cool ones there's one from cb2 there's this other one in this place she said no we're not going to cb2 because i have her gift certificate there and we're only going to buy stuff from there when we have a bunch of things to buy and i was like okay okay so i won't get that one idiot what about this we also have a gift certificate from there so we're not going to buy anything from there because we have a lot of stuff to buy. Domestic bliss.
Starting point is 00:17:25 Wait, y'all got like moving in gift certificates? Dude, like all of these. So I'm trying to remember which service it was. Oh, it was changing your address with the USPS. When you change your address with the USPS, they give you like just a rack of coupons. Okay, that's different than a gift certificate where I thought people were making it rain. Touche. I apologize.
Starting point is 00:17:44 G-cards on you. It was definitely improper language there. But yeah, we've just been, you know, 15% here, 20% there on whole order. I mean, like, you know. Makes you wonder. What are they charging normally? What's that really? What's the cost of really doing that?
Starting point is 00:18:01 Exactly. Costing them literally nothing. But it's saving us pennies on the dollar. Well, you know, let us know which brush you end up with. Oh, I will be updating. What does it matter? That is conical. I have one that's slightly conical. That way you can really hit the
Starting point is 00:18:15 underneath rim. Subrim, as I call it. I want the good points, but I also want the one that has the cap attached to the stick so that when you put it back in the tube, it stays capped. Yeah, I have one that opens like that. Like you push it down. Like Venus flytrap.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Also very nice. I've been looking for those, but they all have a kind of, those ones all have a very future kind of aesthetic where I want something a little bit more. You've always said that you like cottage cottage core yeah very cottage core you know spanish style home we can't have this future tech toilet shit so which is why you're going with like a tree branch with a cotton blossom thank you precisely you've nailed it that was what we said you said your fashion icon is blake
Starting point is 00:19:01 lively right yeah nailed it thank you uh what is something you think is overrated uh overrated is You said your fashion icon is Blake Lively, right? Nailed it. Thank you. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated is small glasses and cups. Recently, again, since we moved in, I've been drinking everything out of a jug, like everything out of a large glass jar, you know, bell jars, mason jars, all that stuff. Yeah. And it's like, I don't know in what scenario I'm going to be, you know, giving someone a glass that like, you know, there are dinner glasses that are like, you know, this big, like almost pint size basically. And that seems like a size or a serviceable glass to drink liquid out of. But literally those ones that are this big, that are so small, maybe like three or four inches tall, that's two sips of liquid.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Two sips of liquid. And if we're talking wine or whatever, sure, you know, wine, liquor, all that stuff go off, you know, sip nicely. But like, I'm drinking a water with dinner. Give me a jug. I will not be drinking out of a tiny glass that I will take two sips out of and it's gone and I need to go and refill. Give me even liquor.
Starting point is 00:20:02 I like to drink out of a jug with three x's on it you know then start blowing in classic get the band going yeah but uh yeah as we've populated our cup thing it's just you wouldn't like no more cups i'll tell you that much well you'd hate you'd hate japan i'll do tiny ass glasses of water because i remember being like puberty boy in japan with my american app but i was fucking it up like i was like i need nine entrees and this this glass will not suffice a lot of times they'll leave a picture on the table because they know like you know do your own shit because also it helps it helps you be less wasteful overall true totally because you know you go places and sometimes motherfuckers don't even touch the cup of water at all and now you're
Starting point is 00:20:50 wasting water but if at least you're being like okay okay if you want more i got more for you but i'm not we're not in the business of just pouring up 40 ounces of water for you totally right yeah so you've been shamed appropriately yeah bad overrated. Let's see if you can do any better with your underrated. What's something you think is underrated? Well, not getting any better. Podcast live shows. And this is not because I'm about to be doing one later tonight. No plug because this comes out on Monday.
Starting point is 00:21:20 But I just watched the Doughboys live show that they did for the finale of Munch Madness Pie Nude sponsored by Manscaped. And I could not have had a better time seeing the podcast that I love play out exactly the way that I know it plays out. Like getting to see all of their expressions that I like. You hear the conversation right this is not news to you guys but like everybody loves podcasts because they feel like they're part of the conversation between their three best friends who they've never met before and blah blah blah obviously i feel that way about the doughboys and seeing every facial expression that weiger has whenever mitch says something stupid or every mitch shaking his head whenever Weiger is just a robot was like
Starting point is 00:22:05 it was exactly the it was candy. It was truly visual candy to watch that just be like, yay. They're exactly as I expected. All right, Justin, edit all that shit out about other podcasts. What the fuck is this, man?
Starting point is 00:22:21 Also, Mike Mitchell cheats at trivia. I heard about that. That's the word on the street, Mike Mitchell cheats at trivia. I heard about that. That's the word on the street, man. From a salty person. I heard that. It is something. I'm trying to think of a podcast. I mean, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:34 We went to go see Desus and Mero. That was great. That was a great live show. And it is play out when you're like, they stood up. They stood up the whole time and just talked off the stage and you're like this is great right played perfectly for their audience like i know that when they were when they were rattling off the akas you hear like there's there's half the crowd that was there because they're like oh yeah jesus and miro i'm familiar with their new showtime show
Starting point is 00:22:59 or or i've seen their youtube clips and then the bodega hive who is saying back every single aka to them and it's like that's the fucking crowd screaming that shit out i remember that show was so funny when that was really fun mero talked about the drug dealer who had the sub-zero mask that he would wear at a drug deal. It killed me. His name was Sub-Zero. It was just perfect. It was truly perfect. But yeah, I think, like anything,
Starting point is 00:23:30 like whether it's music or like a podcast or whatever, it's like whenever you have like your idea, like because you're, when you're world building in your head and then you see the thing
Starting point is 00:23:37 in real life, it always is a wonderful moment. It's candy. It was candy and watching. What do you, what's your vibe on your live podcast that people unfortunately will have to see the replay or something or maybe not at all if they didn't get tickets? moment it's candy it was candy and watching what do you what's your vibe on your live podcast that
Starting point is 00:23:45 people unfortunately will have to see the replay or something or maybe not at all they didn't get tickets i know you can you will fortunately with uh this this service you can buy tickets to watch a week later but uh yeah it's i'm you know we're you know joelle and i will be doing kind of like mc intro duties to introduce the uh the, the wonderful Donald phase on Zach Braff. And then we'll be sitting back and letting them just, you know, do all their silly business while I'm fielding the live chat of people asking the same question a thousand times. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Right. We'll see. And then, and then in the middle, there'll be a live performance from piss window. Yes. Piss window. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:24:20 Piss window. Intermission. Piss window. Piss window. Uh, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back and talk about news. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right. The challenge is about to embark on its monumental 40th season,
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Starting point is 00:25:34 On my podcast, Table for Two, we have unforgettable lunch after unforgettable lunch with the best guest you could possibly ask for. People like David Duchovny. You know, New Yorkers have a reputation of being very tough, but it's not. It's not that way at all. They're very accepting. Jeff Goldblum. Are you saying secret fries?
Starting point is 00:25:51 Secret fries. What? That's what you're saying? Yeah. And Kristen Wiig. I just became so aware that I'm such a loud chewer. My husband's just like, sometimes I'll be eating and he'll just be looking at me.
Starting point is 00:26:02 I'm like, I'm just eating. Like, I don't know how else to chew. Table for Two is a bit different from other interview shows. We sit down at a great restaurant for a meal and the stories start flowing. Our second season is airing right now, so you can catch up on our conversations that are intimate, surprising, and often hilarious. Listen to Table for Two with Bruce Bozzi on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This summer, the nation watched
Starting point is 00:26:35 as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts, separated by two months. These events were mirrored nearly 50 years ago when President Gerald Ford faced two attempts on his life in less than three weeks. President Gerald R. Ford came stunningly close to being the victim of an assassin today. And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore.
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Starting point is 00:27:55 I feel really whole. I feel like the last few years I've really unraveled a lot, which is part of what this book is about. And I really feel so content, which is a word that used to scare the crap out of me. And I love that word now. Listen to The Bright Side from Hello Sunshine on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. and we're back and the fuckery in georgia is uh hitting new levels yeah is it yeah i mean i guess not hitting new Shocker. It's coming in new forms that are, yeah, next level shit from government. Governor Kemp. Government Kemp.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Hey, come on, government Kemp. Do something. No. Yeah. We talked about, you know, the diabolical fucking voter suppression bill in Georgia, the one that is racist revenge for people of color organizing to vote in 2020 and you know we've talked that it's it's all horseshit it's all lit we're going back in time to jim crow it's not new jim crow because it's just like stricter id laws they're shrinking early voting periods making absentee voting harder uh mobile ballot boxes are
Starting point is 00:29:22 trying to cut those back they've even made it illegal for volunteers to give people food or drink that are waiting in the intentionally manufactured long lines uh in heavily minority districts uh to vote so they can't they're not even let you hook somebody up with something to sustain them as they are being you know forcibly made to like like maybe we can just you know run the clock down on them as they are being you know forcibly made to like like maybe we can just you know run the clock down on them and they won't vote just starve them to death as this was happening uh governor kemp was signing the bill into lot the capital and a state representative uh park cannon a black woman knocked on his office door uh as he decided that this kind of racism was
Starting point is 00:30:03 best kept behind closed doors. And she just knocked on his door, being like, you know, trying to bring awareness. Like, sir, you should do that. You're so ashamed. You're doing it back there. Also, this is absolutely nonsense.
Starting point is 00:30:16 And she was arrested for knocking on the door. That was, or knowingly knocking, whatever the fuck they created a new crime they what does that even mean no one is there what's the what is the accidental docking right what what i don't know oh no you knew you knew yeah you knew what you were doing putting your lightly tapping your hand on a fucking door as this governor tries to disenfranchise millions of people like what the anyway i mean it's just it's just really the image of seeing her knock on the door and then have these state troopers just whisk her away is just really awful to watch just like watching like like this
Starting point is 00:30:58 manifestation of white supremacy reassert its power in legal form uh yeah yeah it's from a different it feels like it's from a different decade different century almost um and yeah they are just getting away with it like we talked about these uh these are people who get uh donations from some of the biggest corporations in america and need to be i don't know that it can't be accepted. Like if you found out that fucking Coca-Cola was donating to bowl Connor, like, would you, would you still be cool with that?
Starting point is 00:31:35 Right. Yeah. This, then, then immediately after that, she was released. Obviously it's fucking nonsense. But as soon as she was released,
Starting point is 00:31:43 I mean, fucking lawsuits were just filed immediately because they're like this is this is absurd like it runs afoul of so many things and laws that exist and it's because this is just voter suppression in its purest form so a lot of the one of the main lawsuits is targeting nine specific measures within the new law um as they see it like those being like the ones that probably have a really good chance of being turned down but at the same time it makes you wonder why the fuck they're not passing something up top in dc to make these standards like a new
Starting point is 00:32:18 you know just a new standard of how we're going to vote um rather than allowing for this shit to continue and yeah there's like people saying like well just wait we will we're going to vote rather than allowing for this shit to continue. And yeah, there's like people saying like, well, just wait. We will. We're going to do something in D.C. OK, I'm waiting. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:34 But I think, unfortunately, a lot of people will be waiting in lines trying to vote. It feels a lot sometimes like politics exist only in the bubbles where the people physically are. It's like you hear a lot of noise that comes out of dc where it's like you know congress is very active about trying to make this happen and yet state government is just like you know it doesn't matter to us we are going to continue the fuckery no matter what and that's countrywide and it's it and also as you were saying it's like you know i hope i mean of course they're not but i hope everybody and when I mean everybody, I mean, the kind of public that is surprised by things like protest by things like public anger. I hope they're keeping track of these moments. Because when people are like, where did these protests come from? Where did these you know, where did these angry displays of people expressing their anger with the state of the government come from? Here's another moment.
Starting point is 00:33:27 Here's another bookmark. Like, we can pull out every tweet. We can pull out everything. Because, like, as laws in the past used to be something that could be not necessarily behind closed doors, but definitely not shout out over social media. It's like, we have that now. And so it's just bookmark all of these moments. When it's like, you want to know why this happened? Here's A, B, C through fucking Z of why people are acting like this because everything it's all right here it's happening live in front of your face and it's just because you're not paying attention that
Starting point is 00:33:53 you're surprised by any of it sure unfortunately i feel like some of the people that would probably be the ones that need to unfortunately need to see a list of how people arrive at a point of anger after being oppressed i don't know if that's going to help unfortunately you're right i'm a little cynical but you don't know you never sometimes you may have someone somewhat slightly reasonable and you're like okay if you really are confused let me tell you why because at every corner there this system of oppression is finding a way to claw back any gains you've made and it will it will try and respond doubly in the in the face of your own advancement or pursuit of whatever form of liberation uh we can
Starting point is 00:34:34 get right and part of this is the design of racism is to make you hopeless to make it just deflating right and to like to make to send that message clearly uh and just keep the pressure on keep you know without saying the thing out loud doing it where everybody can see it and then like i i feel like there's probably some like democrat like big d democratic politicians who are going to act surprised by this. But I think like for a camp or, you know, the the Republican Party, like this is all part of the calculation is like do things that are going to enrage people when people are enraged, enrage people when people are enraged publicize that so that your you know white supremacist voter base are have something to be afraid of like i i think that is perpetuated all stereotypes of vicious angry people of color when there's no context of like oh these are people fighting
Starting point is 00:35:41 for their lives it's not like you know what i just woke up and decided i'm gonna just start screaming about voter suppression no that's not what it is oh and also one other thing about brian kemp though let's not forget this is the guy who erased like over 300 000 people from the voter scrolls to beat stacy abrams by 50 000 votes so this is this is just like tart impartial of his whole fucking mo which is the erasure of the ability and presence of a black vote. Yep. But you know what? I'm hopefully these lawsuits coalesce into something effective. Hopefully, I mean, hopefully something will happen at a federal level that can provide some kind of shelter. But I have a feeling this is, again, going to fall on activists to try and do as much work as possible to try and make, you know, claw back some fairness and all this. Well, did Biden announce like some overarching like federal push to try and protect voter rights? Like, is that something that's being like moved through?
Starting point is 00:36:45 Well, that's what HR one is, right? Like that's the one that is enshrining a lot of these things to make them like to invest in the ability to have better access to voting and to make it easier and to have people registered on their 18th birthday automatically shit like that you know that's the the kinds of things that typically people who are trying to push back against have to do like you know voter registration drives to make sure everyone's eligible but like it would be so much easier if it was just sort of like hey you're 18 you're eligible you don't have to register because that's your right and we're not trying to make it cumbersome or create obstacles for you to exercise those rights right and their only argument against that is voter fraud which is not a thing that means black people voting right oh yeah yeah for sure
Starting point is 00:37:31 that voter fraud is the code and then that and then they just call it a socialist wish list or some shit like that and it's like you to fucking vote you know asshole that make it makes it easier for you assholes to vote too so i don't see where the advantage is because they know that it's it's an existential threat to make voting easier similar for people all right let's move on to another story about white supremacy in uh this time in the police force there was a search early last week for a suspect who had attacked a 69-year-old Asian man while he was walking his dog near middle school. There was video of it. They circulated the video. The dude just runs up and hits him on the back of the head viciously.
Starting point is 00:38:19 People were outraged. They caught this dude. He was like a 20-something guy. And now the police are like, actually it was a dispute over their dogs and it had nothing to do with ethnicity. Wait. So,
Starting point is 00:38:32 but the video is someone getting sucker punched in the back of their head. Yeah. And apparently they had had a, like their dogs had been like growling at each other. had been like growling at each other but the idea that the police can enter a suspect's brain and determine that the race of their victim had nothing to do with the crime that they've committed while there's a massive rise in violence against asian people while a white supremacist movement headed by somebody who used racist language to like blame asian people for 500 000 deaths in america like that it's just so reductive and dismissive and like just de facto white supremacy. It's just like, yeah, no, no, no. It's that we don't have to worry about that. And there's there's a long history of U.S. law enforcement like looking the other way when it comes to racial hate crimes against asian people there's a guy named vincent chen who was beaten to death in 1982
Starting point is 00:39:46 because two white laid-off auto workers mistook him as a japanese and reportedly said that he was the reason they don't have jobs while murdering him and they got fines and probation and the judge in the case of when people were like, wait, why the fuck are these people not serving jail time? The Justice Kaufman, the guy who presided over that decision, said these weren't the kind of men you send to jail. You don't make the punishment fit the crime. You make the punishment fit the criminal. Oh, my God. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:28 criminal oh my god yeah i mean you know this is just similar patterns no matter what group you're in of just a lack of care or sense of duty to protect um and then to also because you know the our policing is just an extension of white supremacy that to to look to that body to try and see the nuance of white supremacy is just like it's impossible um and it and it only allows for the obscuring of the actual hate that's going on and on on top of that it what it does is further this fucked up you know model minority view on what asian people asian americans asian immigrants are that if it's not a hate crime then they're not a group that it has to endure white supremacy because they don't get hate crimes because they're actually the model minor they've came they've come here and put their heads down and they're not bothering they don't bother anyone and they don't get bothered you see that's what that's that's why they're cool right and but but then you you do the insidious work of then
Starting point is 00:41:29 erasing the acts of hate against them to keep you know to not have to have a reckoning with it right uh yeah and it's just it's i mean it's just it's how it it's always constantly happening and i think that's what's so tragic and ironic and ridiculous that when sometimes people get bogged down and like well what is a hate crime right and well who who decides what because couldn't you just be a white guy and just punch somebody out that's brown and did not be a hate crime right and okay but i think more than that like how we're defining it is we rather or not it meets this criteria of hate crime. We need to look at who the victims are and what the effect is on the people that are part of that community.
Starting point is 00:42:11 Yes, because even if it's you don't, if this person say it's about dogs, I look at that and I add that to the list of anecdotes that I've heard from my mom, my family, friends, everybody, people in my neighborhood that have the older asian women being attacked where i fucking grew up and i'm begging my mom to not go outside and it's a fucked up place to be in uh yet we're not having we're not going to have a real upfront conversation about really what this all means and how it affects people but again this is but we're asking something we're asking for you know of a culture to evolve at a speed that it just is unable to at the moment right but it's it's had plenty of time but yeah yeah and i and i'm and i really i'm afraid to see how it keeps how it keeps building because the the pandemic being over isn't going to be like the release valve for all this anti-asian hate right it's not going to be this is it's it's going to
Starting point is 00:43:13 it will evolve and that's what's the most frightening thing and to live in a country too where you know the powers that be are unwilling to actually intervene you know it's it's hard to not be super fucking cynical. Yeah. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. MTV's official challenge podcast is back for another season. That's right.
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Starting point is 00:47:31 And we're back. And I wanted to just take a quick look at how the MAGA world in particular is responding to Biden's presidency so far, because I'm actually seeing some overlaps in some of the ways that I think the MSNBC sort of mainstream media initially reacted to the Trump presidency that, in retrospect, were probably not the approaches to take to, you know, resisting that presidency or uh you know trying to report on that presidency so uh number one is cognitive decline mega is apparently on some biden tripping proves he's not fit for office shit and his rigidness as a politician makes him unfit for office. Right, exactly. Go after that, y'all. That's easy.
Starting point is 00:48:28 That's free. Right. But it just reminds me of like, I was looking back at some of the articles that were written about the 25th Amendment during Trump's presidency. And like everything they're saying about him is true. Like they're like, he uses these violent videos. He's clearly like obsessed with violence. He wants his, uh,
Starting point is 00:48:49 supporters to use violence, but they always like end it with, and he's unraveling and things are about to get like worse. That's why we need to, which seems like it's like, that's not something that I feel like was necessarily there. I feel like he always told his supporters and his critics who exactly who he was and the thing that happened was
Starting point is 00:49:13 that his supporters did what they'd been saying they were going to do right so like just kind of calling that out as a thing that seems to be like a an easy uh way to criticize somebody that might not always be supported and obviously they're both very old men right so yeah so it's in the ballpark where people are i don't know maybe right but then like he couldn't name every wu-tang member so yeah he might he might have cognitive decline the uh but like there's a bunch of republican senators who met with biden and were like actually like this doesn't really seem to hold water he seems to be all there um because they're all his age too like he seemed sharp as a tack literally sharp attack was the word that they used right old uh and then the election fraud thing is something that a bunch of the republicans who voted for trump still can't get over and
Starting point is 00:50:13 there's huge portions of the population who still think that biden's an illegitimate president and i think just in retrospect that was probably the aspect of the Trump resistance that feels like the most wasted effort and time was like the whole Mueller investigation, like Russia angle. So I guess I'm just like curious if these are just things that we're going to see from both sides now whenever there's a president. Yeah, it doesn't make because it's all stupid. And's just like it's like let's exchange hats yeah right okay so i have the your your your president sucks hat right president's fucking whack fucking old decrepit a fraud and you'll wear the oh my god i love him hat yeah and then the second that the inauguration came in all right let me get your hat real quick okay switch right we're on yeah okay and then now they go biden did
Starting point is 00:51:09 everything so wonderful on the left media and on the right is like this god decrepit he fucking senile this is fraud it's just it's just it's like it's like fucking clockwork and it's just it's it's basically the egos of these ideologies playing out through the news, which is basically allows them to immediately focus on an external issue rather than take any time to have a postmortem on how things could have gone so wrong based on election. would rather not talk about how clinging to a dynastic family with a ton of political baggage was a bad move in nearly both elections okay and then republicans don't have to act like they didn't show their whole asshole from 17 to 21 uh by hitting the switch on the biden's fucking he can't go upstairs mo right because it allows you to completely ignore all the shit you were saying all the ugliness that you stood for um and i just want to play this clip because like on fox news the way they were responding to the press conference it just shows like you can feel the
Starting point is 00:52:15 energy that they're so like they want to forget that they were pieces of shit and they're like you know we're actually like the the dope journalists like this whole time and the just just listen to the tone of this uh this crew well if i had been there i definitely would have taken uh or told the president to take to call on peter ducey um peter ducey is not jim acosta and he's got good questions and the president showed he's willing to answer questions from all those other people and what peter ducey just said were the two questions he wanted to ask i think that the president would have had a way to answer them why make peter ducey a story right just take his question and move on again they're just you see like this is because we have a high ground biden he's asking all on the fox news reporter yeah
Starting point is 00:53:02 during the thing. That's the story they're trying to cover, right? Right. Yeah. And again, they can put... Again, you just put your hat on now because now you're on the other side. You're in the minority. And this is the space. They do it best from
Starting point is 00:53:19 there. Yeah. People can't see the video, but she's actually wearing a derby hat with a press card in the brim while she's making this critique oh man that's funny i'm what annoys me about all this is that it just completely lowers the discourse about just talking about the president in general or talking about politics yeah it silences the people who are criticizing every president on everything that is valid criticism and it makes it the shouting competitions which you're absolutely right and it's just like you know it's it's it's truly you know the media keeping this this keeping this narrative alive
Starting point is 00:53:58 and ruining any chance for a good conversation i mean that is literally high school shit like he didn't talk to him like he he like totally ignored him yeah it's just it's just annoying it's he's a dick i know he's a dick we're not talking anymore like what the fuck and it's and it's unfortunate because yeah daniel to your point like they are just protecting their egos by not engaging anyone with an objective criticism about anything right yeah if it's because the second you you come and be like well you know joe biden you know if you look at his record he seemed like someone who may not be up for protecting social security but well you know that was a long time ago oh my god damn just look at the look at the shit with me that's true that's not a lie that's the shit he's saying back then was problematic as fuck
Starting point is 00:54:52 racist i don't know how i can i'm i'm failing to see the evolution this man has had in his spirit that he's willing to look upon communities of color or minority groups uh with compassion especially after he's like oh you smoking demon weed right be gone with that shit unbelievable unbelievable flip-flop how are you like it's just so and then so if you are someone with a criticism and i'm not going to say like objective whatever because it's fucking politics but something that's at least rooted in truth and not so hyper partisan then you're just going to get fucking shooed aside by these protective mechanisms for each party's ego, which is their media sphere.
Starting point is 00:55:29 And if you're not in there, throat in the boot, then you're a commie fucking rabble rouser who just hates everything. I don't know what to call people who are criticizing the conservative party, about to wake up racists um whatever they are but like there's always a label and a way to dismiss anything that would remotely encourage good faith conversation about how to improve something right you either love the fuck out of what they're doing or you hate it and if
Starting point is 00:56:02 you hate it that means you're the other side there's no in between where like you can hold two thoughts at the same time right so one detail that uh came out at the end of last week that i just wanted to cover really briefly that uh gives me hope for the future running the republican party like like one of his businesses uh and tv shows yeah slash one of his tv shows which that those never it's good it's good for drama um it's good for tv but it's bad for businesses and it's not how you run a business and it's bad leadership it so he had five people who want to run for the open uh senate seat in ohio at a like fundraiser for a candidate in ohio for a house seat uh and he had his people call them all into like a boardroom like a back room and he met with all five of them where he made them
Starting point is 00:57:17 attack each other like it was the scene in the apprentice where he's like and she said that you're not very good what do you What do you have to say about that? And just like playing them off of each other for his own entertainment, essentially. Check this out. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:57:36 The worst at is running the thing, like running an organization. He fucking has been shown repeatedly to be terrible at that so he can't he can't keep a casino in business so it's like if they are just willing to hand over power to him i would i would really can't we expect the party to fully burn up because it's so out in the open toxic you would hope so you know like at a certain point like it can't you can't really have much cohesion in a toxic organization like at least like the democrats are like kind of you know
Starting point is 00:58:21 pretending that like they're on the side of good while like ignoring a lot of the other bad shit that happens uh so it's like a less of a version that might be as toxic as this one that's like just out and over like talk shit you're gonna fucking backstab them and then we're gonna we're then we're gonna move together in solidarity and succeed as a party right uh but i don't know i don't know like if my logic feels like if this was a reality show the team that's the most toxic would probably end up having the problems around episode eight or nine right right right yeah but yeah this is a fucked up reality show mussolini hitler and trump all seem to be able to have a lot of success with a lot of toxicity out in the open. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:07 It's just funny. Just reading from the Politico report on it, one of the candidates said he was crushing Timken in polling. Timken touted her support on the ground thanks to her time as state party chair. Gibbons mentioned how he'd helped Trump's campaign financially. Moreno noted that
Starting point is 00:59:24 his daughter had worked on Trump's 2020 campaign like just you can just like picture that meeting and well actually uh it's funny that you mentioned your campaign because my daughter was actually working on it uh that's great except i'm fucking crushing you i'm pulling bitch oh shit it's um wow that rules yes and he you know was presumably wildly into it um i was gonna say orgasming but i didn't want to put that image in anybody's head all right let's talk about craft oh boy let's actually forget it let's talk about yeah we'll move on eyes forward eyes forward eyes Ice forward, ice forward, ice forward Dude, crap They're You know, commercials are like meant to Capture the vibe of
Starting point is 01:00:11 You know, like Whatever the product you're selling, you want it to resonate With your target demographic you're selling to And look, we all get the blue box blues You know, craft macaroni And cheese But everything is in moderation And you also need to eat vegetables too
Starting point is 01:00:27 You can't just eat straight Blue Box all day I'm learning Thank you, Blue Face Bless down, Tatiana But you also need to eat your veggies But if you're a kid that has seen a Kraft TV commercial recently You may be ingesting Anti-vegetable propaganda according to some watch
Starting point is 01:00:46 dog groups because you know like the whole vibe is like kids we get it kids don't like vegetables is like the cliche that i think of so many uh these sort of commercials operate on but i just want everyone to take a look at this anti-vegetable craft commercial and then we'll talk about this on the other side please you're having one more bite. No! One more bite! Craft. For the win-win.
Starting point is 01:01:13 For the win-win. Okay, so that commercial is one where, I guess, Enya is the voice of caloric salvation? Okay, we're not going to play the whole commercial because the craft will probably come after us but it starts off with a young child running from their parent and you hear the parent be like one more bite and they have like a string bean on a fork right and then just a smash cut smash to like a literal smash cut and yeah's only time to like someone making a box of blue box and then the kids eating it and smiling and like the parent feels relief.
Starting point is 01:01:51 So and it just says for the win. I assumed that this was going to be mixed vegetables in with your mac and cheese. That's a good way to like make mac and cheese, not a complete waste and toxic empty calorie dump. The fact that they're just like, eat this instead of vegetables. Right. It said, well, the thing they're doing is encouraging parents to be like, yo, give up on trying to feed your kids shit that they need. Fool, what are you, a parent? No, man, you a stoner who fucked raw once and now your life's all fucked up.
Starting point is 01:02:25 You know what I mean? So hit the blue box like it's like what the women look it didn't even well first of all for the win-win is just like i yeah but but also if they didn't even try and like play around it by having like the full plate of food a la like your complete breakfast where it's like oh yeah you have eggs with your whatever and even though that whole thing was its own kind of propaganda about eating way too much breakfast but like the fact that they didn't even like pair it with or just like you're saying like not even mix it but they didn't even have like the fake plate it was just like a straight little tiny bowl of blue box with anyas like what the fuck does that do mac and cheese like the peace the tranquility it's
Starting point is 01:03:06 providing the parent to not like trying to get their kids nutrients so what happened was there was a formal complaint that was filed by the center for science in the public interest and another organization that is the better business bureau's National Programs Children's Advertising Review Unit, or CARU for short. They're here basically saying that Kraft was running this ad and very similar ones during children's programming on Disney XD, Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network in 2019. And they're saying it was violating the strict advertising standards set forth by like this, unfortunately, industry funded self-regulatory group. But according to those standards, like telling kids that healthy foods are shitty and like reinforcing this idea that vegetables suck runs afoul of these regulations.
Starting point is 01:04:03 And you're like, right. runs afoul of these regulations. And you're like, right. Then you find out with Orr Ida, which is another Kraft Heinz brand. We all know Orr Ida, frozen potatoes. They got the hash browns and tots and fries. Oregon, Idaho is where that comes from.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Oh, is that really? Yeah. The company was, I think that's right. Yeah. That makes sense. I know Idaho got potatoes and I guess Oregon too, huh? Right out there. Hey, you learn something every day. Aside from that vegetable suck.
Starting point is 01:04:27 But on the Orida commercial, they were basically, the messaging to parents in this one was saying, bribe your kids with fries? Where it was like, eat one carrot, you get one fry. You eat a mushroom, you get three fries. Like, what the fuck? What is that equation? That's so weird. That is weird.
Starting point is 01:04:55 The funding for non-industry funded watch groups is one of the great examples of the evils of capitalism. When you look at the FDA, or not the FDA, who's the ones who made the food pyramid? USDA? USDA. Yeah. ones who made the food pyramid that usda usda yeah like that is the funding for that uh organization is it's like a thousand a million dollars a year like and then you look at the things the funding for other organizations that they're competing with like the farm lobbies and shit it's like you know hundreds of millions of dollars a year you put chips at the top of that fucking it's just like one of the great examples of if you like believe that in market based like capitalism like this is uh that's not what we have going on here the deck is stacked against
Starting point is 01:05:37 us the consumers it's they are every everything is trying to value the benefits of corporations over your health, your ability to continue living. Or to even teach your children life skills on how to eat healthily and understand how nutrition works. This is all just this is all just like bad cooking propaganda as well. It's like you present these things as if they can't be prepared in a nice way it's like every time i see like broccoli thrown in there it's like oh broccoli it's like broccoli is the easiest thing to prepare and make it taste fire there are a million ways you can do broccoli and you can't really fuck it up you really can't you can't burn the fuck out of it okay if you burn the fuck out anything it. If you burn the fuck out of anything, it's out.
Starting point is 01:06:26 Even then, it's the part that I like. I don't mind old folks mushy brock. I'm less mushy brock. I'm more like, those burnt ends on the broccoli? Give me. Roast it? Roast that shit! Just throw it in the pan with some garlic and oil. It's like game over.
Starting point is 01:06:42 Thank you, Lil Flip. Game over. Also, Pam some garlic and oil it's like game over yeah flip game over also broccoli is the easiest food to get kids to eat if you just tell them that they're dinosaur and those are trees like that oh my that works for adult stoners
Starting point is 01:07:00 that's why Stephanie kept saying that eat your trees i thought you was blowing trees hun i am i'm don't watch me actually another daniel dinosaurs don't use their hands so you have to let them eat it like with just their head. Oh yeah. See, perfect. Or like a little, see what I,
Starting point is 01:07:26 I would like my mom, it would make like, like a weird sauce. Like I would just dip my broccoli in. Cause I couldn't just eat on like, just, you know, even if it had seasoned stuff,
Starting point is 01:07:37 the act of dipping opened the door for me to start eating vegetables. Cause I wasn't just feel like I was putting like a green thing in my mouth like okay i'll get it i hit it with a little dab of this sauce okay i eat it and then that was good momentum shout out to you mom america wants us to uh bribe our kids with macaroni and cheese and and just cheese just covering broccoli with cheese but then when those kids like avocado they want us to be mad at them for tanking the economy for god's sake it's like because that we did
Starting point is 01:08:12 it again yeah it was the poor children yes bankrupt no okay uh but again great way to recontextualize how capitalism is failing generations of people right now. They're ruining everything, huh?
Starting point is 01:08:27 Those broke-ass motherfuckers where we siphoned up all the wealth and left nothing. Oh, and one other thing with Kraft. They also had a fucking print ad that was just like suggesting you inundate your broccoli with their shredded cheddar cheese. And the thing said, so it tastes, quote, less broccoli-y. Now, just to jump back to the broccoli thing here, inquiring minds want to know, can we get a little information on that dip you were talking about? Yeah. Oh, okay. Look, okay.
Starting point is 01:08:54 You don't have to go too far. I understand. No, it's simple as fuck. No, I know what it is. It's ranch, right, man? Just dip that shit in some ranch. Yeah, Jack. That's what my Japanese mom did.
Starting point is 01:09:06 She came all this way to fuck me over with Hidden Valley. Same thing you dip your pizza in. There you go. No, she would just do like what many Japanese people have in their house. Kewpie mayonnaise and soy sauce. Yep. I was... A little bit. You can't... Don't overdo soy sauce
Starting point is 01:09:22 because, look, people know Kewpie got the MSG in it. That's why that shit hits. But then you do that. Just a little bit of soy sauce. So it's brown. And then, you know, actually, the OG of that sauce was actually Mutzi Erskine from Pen15. Oh. She was the first one to throw that down in front of me and Maya and her brother Ty when
Starting point is 01:09:41 we were real kids because we didn't like broccoli. And then she said, OK, what about dippy dippy? That's what she would call it. And we're like, oh yeah, we fuck with dippy dippy. Must he bring that over here? Dippy dippy makes it sound a lot more fun. Yeah, and look, she must have thought, and then I think that's when my mom was like,
Starting point is 01:09:57 how the fuck do you do, oh, that's it, mayonnaise? Okay, yeah, yeah, dippy dippy over here too. I like a little dippy dippy. My broccoli dippy dippy of choice thus far because i mean now i'm going to try that and my whole game will be changed but um basically a dijon mustard vinaigrette god damn you just you mean a dippy dippy there you go uh are you eating that hitting that broccoli raw is that what you're talking about dipping, Dan? No, I mean like
Starting point is 01:10:26 after the roast. Once it's cooked, once you got that nice little char on it, like little garlic so you have a little bit of extra tang in there and then just a dip in the mustard is just like, oh. Yeah. I thought you said broccoli
Starting point is 01:10:43 Rob. Oh. Which I love. said broccoli Rob. I love. Who's Rob? Yeah, exactly. That's actually from The Office, right? That was one of the guys from the acapella group. Andy's acapella group.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Yeah, broccoli Rob. I love it. Real quick, before I leave you guys quick. Uh, before I, uh, leave you guys for a week, I want to cover a podcast that, uh, I think we all, all of us in the podcast industry here,
Starting point is 01:11:14 the footsteps coming behind us. It's like when you're on a breakaway, but then you hear, uh, LeBron behind you. Oh my God. Oh shit. He is going to clean the glass with my attempt at a layout uh
Starting point is 01:11:28 in my case i would just dunk it but i know like a lot of people that's not an option they got ups like you they got boosties like you right but uh ikea is entering uh new players has entered uh the podcast game Last year they announced they were discontinuing their catalogs and now they have announced they're going to adapt their most recent catalog into podcast form.
Starting point is 01:11:55 A tour for your ears consisting of a narrator flicking through each page and describing what's in it. I'm stoked. Totally depends on who the narrator is. Man, I was
Starting point is 01:12:12 mad. Nicole, that's the only way that this could be salvaged, I think. For me, I need ear volume. I don't want to be too entertained by... I want it to sound be too entertained by... I want it to sound like Ikea, so I want it to be
Starting point is 01:12:28 like a Scandinavian accent and just very soft and subtle. There you go. It's just as corny as Bjork and Calvin with the matching bergdahl lamp. See, that right there. That's why I'm excited. I'm excited to be in the car, listening to this
Starting point is 01:12:43 on a long drive with Stephanie, and we're going, that's how it's pronounced. The next thing you wake up and you're driving on the wrong side of the road. What are you talking about? I was hoping they would make it sound like shopping at Ikea for your ears. You know, and then you have to hear that couple
Starting point is 01:12:59 in the background. Yeah, the couple having the wild fight in the fucking fake kitchen place. And you're like, yo. She tried to pull the knife block. She tried to pull a knife out in the wild fight in the fucking fake kitchen place. And you're like, yo, she told you she tried to pull the knife block. She tried to pull a knife out of the knife block, but they have that shit all secure. So she broke this shit. I saw so I've seen so many ridiculous couples battles at the IKEA in Burbank. It's like this.
Starting point is 01:13:22 Unbelievable. I think one of the first times i saw like adults act like children was like when it first opened in the early 90s and like like my mom or something dragged me there and i saw like two people scream like say curse words i'd never heard of and i was like i can't fucking sit yo fucking ufc for for toxic couples speaking of ikea burbank just went there recently still you know moving in that's the narrative there is that is the narrative that is the narrative what's actually happening dan disneyland yes no disneyland line disneyland style line i'm talking full you know separators snake yeah like three snakes i'm talking a one two three into the parking lot one two three and further into the parking lot, 1, 2, 3, and further into the parking lot, 1, 2, 3.
Starting point is 01:14:06 A huge Disneyland style line to get into Ikea. Straight up, I was ready for there to be the person who has the big stand and be like, from this point, the line is 40 minutes. How long did you wait? 30, I think. 30 minutes to get in.
Starting point is 01:14:22 I mean, I'm thankful from the sense that ikea isn't truly like mobbed as hell and everybody was masked up so that's like nice but like damn that was a lot that was a sight to be seen it was it was a it was but also like stop cutting down all them fucking trees you know that for all that you know those documentaries are fucked up one thing that one quote from this article that i wanted to point out, though, is... So the logic, this obviously makes no sense as a podcast. But IKEA... Did you greenlight this, Jack?
Starting point is 01:14:51 IKEA said... Yeah, so Miles and I are on the development team. We hear a lot of pitches for podcasts. And I'm going to go ahead and say that the thinking in the following sentence is too pervasive. say that the thinking in the following sentence is too pervasive. They said, according to Ikea, it's because people have probably binged through
Starting point is 01:15:09 every possible podcast. That's their... Come check out 420 Day Fiance, please. I swear you haven't heard everything. We got a lineup here that you should listen to instead. That is awesome. That is hilarious. That they think that there's a podcast scarcity. a lineup here that you should listen to instead that is awesome
Starting point is 01:15:25 that they think that there's a podcast scarcity I think it's just like everyone's doing it and you know they're just like fuck it catalog the podcast seriously anyway shout out to Ikea I mean and also Ikea I fuck it's ugly
Starting point is 01:15:42 I said stay the fuck up out of my lane and I wouldn't enter yours so ugly. I said, stay the fuck up out of my lane. Yeah. You know, and I wouldn't enter yours. So now that you said that, check out Miles's Meatballs. 100% not horse, but also not going to tell you what it actually is. And they're cheaper than Ikea and come by.
Starting point is 01:16:00 I'm selling them at my Mazda in North Hollywood. There you go. And check out Jack's furniture parts that just come in a box. They don't necessarily fit together, but you'll figure it out. It's like an erector set. Yeah. There you go. I mean, you can do all kinds of shit with it.
Starting point is 01:16:15 Hell yeah. But actually, I'm sorry, the fucking catalog again, because the names don't make sense to fucking anyone unless you're- Because I know it's Swedish. So for the American to hear a product, I'm not going to go
Starting point is 01:16:28 Oh yeah, we need that. Like exactly. I'm sure they're not just going to read the names off. I know, but then it's like it just sounds like I'm starting to feel like hear like the labor of how like the podcast sounds. Yeah. I'm very much as somebody
Starting point is 01:16:44 as a podcast fan,'m listening i'm enjoying to hate listen or i'm looking forward to hate listening this but right because i feel like i'm just looking at a list of things like let's say this is the section for home office now this room sits a scar star with the beck and tabletop on top is a lovin for your other items I don't know what the fuck that meant I just described the desk with the tabletop a lovin
Starting point is 01:17:14 is the monitor stand with drawer so I look I'm just a hater because you know I'm very insecure about my own podcasting so to hear about a behemoth like Ikea entering the game. But if you guys need a development team, Miles and I are you know, hit us up. Yeah, we got the gang. We can make a podcast real quick.
Starting point is 01:17:31 We'll work for meatballs. DJ Daniel, it has been a pleasure having you back, visiting us from the beyond. Thank you for having me. Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me on the Twitters at DJ underscore Daniel.
Starting point is 01:17:48 You can find me on Twitch Wednesdays and Sundays at 7 p.m. on twitch.tv slash DJ underscore D-A-N-L. Hell yeah, dog. Is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Yes, I've prepared everything. Also, who's your favorite cousin? Who's your favorite cousin who's your favorite cousin
Starting point is 01:18:05 me or jack uh anyway so my tweet that i have wow yes wow you used to always say your name instantly so i have two tweets here i have two tweets here and i wonder if one was already done because knowing the popularity of the tweet i'm sure it already was we can cut it if it was was the male friendship tweet male friendship is beautiful nope all right then i got two tweets male friendship is beautiful once a year one of you text the other something like we should write a movie and the other person responds that would be sick and that's it the other tweet that i loved is from vinnie th. You may recognize that name or the video of the Earth applying for intergalactic federation partnership. When someone's like, do you have the trains?
Starting point is 01:18:53 No trains. Okay. Well, at least you don't have wars. Oh, you do still have wars. Oh, that guy. Great, great tweet. Great tweet from Vinnie. Right now, I'm obsessed with the early 2000s Animal Planet series, Fatal Attractions, in which someone is eaten by their pet lion, and then all of their friends look at the camera and say, girl, I told her not to have that lion.
Starting point is 01:19:15 I love it. Miles, where can people find you? What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, Miles of Grey. And also, you know, twist.tv slash 420 day a yonce someone tweeted me and said i was saying 420 day beyonce no no you weren't and maybe that is why the show has suffered so much because y'all were looking for a different show this is called 420 day fiance like the show 90 day fiance and shout out to the person that tweeted at me
Starting point is 01:19:48 because i laughed really hard that you thought i was saying that this whole time i wonder if that's like a common like beyonce auditory dysmorphia where people anything that sounds vaguely like beyonce they just that's what they hear whatever and i hope to any of the the stoner beehive that came to just check the podcast out i'm sorry it was not paying off what you thought it was okay um but yeah some tweets that i like first one is from uh audrey kaufman at kaufman audrey my mom once told me about how she was a pa on a film set for 20 minutes and then they asked her to carry a pole and she just left without telling anyone to me that's a girl boss i just like the idea of a pa being like yo i'm off this and not saying shit anyone that's i mean that's a very uh production specific experience but i love
Starting point is 01:20:40 it uh another one is from kels at keely k-e-a-l-l-y 22 tweeting i feel so goddamn guilty pulling weeds like no i don't want you in my garden but that doesn't mean that you didn't do a great job at growing uh and yeah i feel that too just as when i like weed my yard and stuff because like when they're thick you're like oh man oh man, you, you put work in, you put work in, but guess what? It's time to school. And then finally, this is just, somebody said, y'all look at my Facebook at,
Starting point is 01:21:12 at eat Ed wildo. But, and it's clearly a Facebook post. And it's like this dude on like the beach with his lady. And she's got like the wild high cup bathing suit with the beaks out. And the whole thing thing this guy posts I'll choose my girl over my family any day
Starting point is 01:21:28 cause blood ain't thicker than that ass the fuck is wrong man oh my god that is incredible and his stance in it is looking like he's trying to fight you like come try and tell me that blood is thicker than that. Amazing. Let's see.
Starting point is 01:21:53 What do you got, Jack? Give us the heaters. Give us the heaters. I don't know if I have any heaters. What was that? I don't know if I have any heaters. Yeah. What was that?
Starting point is 01:22:01 81% Yeah, that Anybody who missed that sketch where there are different It's actually the same actor playing different pharmaceutical companies representing the various vaccines
Starting point is 01:22:22 Check it out It's so good. It's from, you know, at the black man can. Yeah, yeah. Follow them on Instagram because all they're fucking, it's always funny. Love it. Andrew Nadeau tweeted girlfriend crying. My dog died.
Starting point is 01:22:38 Me, who was only dating her because of her dog. So I have more bad news. Oh my God. Also, like, what a sad state of things i'm only with this person for the animal damn damn okay and that's real shit you can find me on twitter jack underscore o'brien you can find us on twitter at daily zeitgeist we're at the daily zeitgeist on instagram we have a facebook fan page and a website dailyzeitgeist.com're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the
Starting point is 01:23:10 information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we recommend you check out. Miles, what is the song that we think people should check out today? Okay, so look, we're going into the week. We need to get our energy up because, yeah, there's a lot to get down about, but there's a lot to get up to.
Starting point is 01:23:30 And this is another mashup. I know you like one of the mashups I did that was Biggie and Express Yourself. This is The Box by Roddy Ricch with Controla by Drake. And it's pretty seamless. It's pretty seamless. It's pretty seamless. Does it have a... You know, you have to listen for yourself. I'm not going to... I just tease out the
Starting point is 01:23:53 tracks for you to go to SoundCloud and find this track because it's another one from Nick Bike. Nick Bike edits on SoundCloud and this is the box Nick Bike and Adam W. Controla mix. Alright. Well, go check that out. The Daily Zeitgeist, a production SoundCloud, and this is the Box, Nick Mike, and Adam W. controller mix. All right. Well, go check that out.
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