The Daily Zeitgeist - Eracism, Welcome To ‘93! 6.25.20

Episode Date: June 25, 2020

In episode 659, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Danielle Radford to discuss Bill Barr continuing to f*ck the country, the Blackface apology tour by Jimmy Kimmel, Tiny Fey, and more, third degree racism, the massive dust cloud floating across the Atlantic and coming for the Southeast United States, the drive-in movie theater box office, and more!FOOTNOTES: STATEMENT FOR THE RECORD: Assistant United States Attorney Aaron S. J. Zelinsky Testimony of John W. Elias U.S.House: Committee on the Judiciary Hollywood’s Blackface Apology Tour Isn’t Very Convincing The Difference Between First-Degree Racism and Third-Degree Racism Massive Sahara desert dust plume closing in on the United States ‘Jurassic Park’ Roars To No. 1 Again At Weekend Box Office, 27 Years After Original Release Domestic 2020 Weekend 25 WATCH: Wet - Old Bone (Jim-E Stack Remix - Official Audio) Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Tucker Carlson. Fuck JK Rowling. Fuck JK. It's Thursday, June 25th, 2020. My name is Jack O'Brien, aka No matter how hard I try, these dorks keep riding up

my thighs and I can't break through My mask protects me from you Police sad, we don't like them It takes time to defund them But after all is said and done Would you like to see my thighs in the sun? Whoa, do you want to see my thighs in the sun? Wear some jorts, don't skip leg day, cause as of now they're not strong enough, no. Do you want to see my thighs in the sun umbro shorts from the seven days i really don't think they show enough oh uh good luck dan good luck dan love it love it it That is courtesy of

Literate Platypus and Christy Yamaguchi Main Tag Team Thank y'all And I'm thrilled to be joined As always by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray Let's just keep this Jack's thigh exposure Theme going with

Pale White Let's just keep this Jack's thigh exposure theme going with pale white. My jeans are so tight against my thighs. Lay my pockets exposed once more. Once more from my hips to the floor, my white legs are blinding and my jean shorts will go on and... Beautiful. Okay, thank you so much. Casey Snyder at Tree Climb Casey. I know you wrote that for Jack, but you said, I have the vocals, I have the meats, I have the vocals.

We do it all here. Thank you so much. Thank you to everybody. I think they wrote it and they were like, wait, I think Miles better sing this. And that was a wise decision. Well, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious, the talented, the brilliant Danielle Radford. Hi, good to be back.

Hello, hello, hello. It's great to have you back. It's been too long, Danielle. How you been? It's good. It turns out we're in quarantine. I don't know if you guys knew that. We're in quarantine i don't know if you guys knew that but uh yeah we're in cork work uh

and i had to build a home office finally and act like an adult um because you're a like digital media maven you know i don't know what you don't have your hands on so did you prior to this were you always going to an office or did you work like at another space that didn't require a home office prior to this um i for some jobs i would go to an office for a lot of them i would work from my bed like a weird person and then like a college student yeah and then now i was like tax man can't get mad at me for buying a desk so i bought a desk uh some people buy a zoo i bought a desk um i took some people do buy a zoo some people buy a zoo i bought a desk uh i have uh uh some things from uh one of my jobs that i do uh because i'm there so often i was able to like i uh like i have a stand so i look like not super dead when i do these things i bought like a cheap light for when I stream.

I have a mirror somewhere that I clearly didn't use today. Um, I have a TV that's probably 10 years old that I'm using as a second monitor. Um, living it up. You can see in the background, that's my recumbent bike. That's what I use to keep the sads away.

You've got it all. Uh, I just heard you shout it out, uh, on a film podcast as one of our great film critics. So shout out to you. Who said that? I think it was either on the Blank Check podcast

or Bechdelcast. It might be Bechdel because Bechdel, I feel like their sliding scale for great is do they make me laugh? And I'm not saying that in a bad way. I actually think that they themselves have great opinions that are very nuanced. I, I guess, technically have critic stuff, but I guess I'm a film critic. I think it's weird. Don't be so

modest. It's not modesty. It's not modesty. You never miss, Radford. You never miss. It's weird, man. Ah, shut up, Miles. Appreciate you. Alright, Danielle, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple

of things we're talking about. We're going to talk about Bill Barr. Maybe he should be inducted up top to our fuck list. The list would be too long at that point. Yeah, I think. Yeah. But anyways, he's just fucking up the country. We'll talk about that.

We'll talk about the kind of recent pattern of, you know, people just issuing apologies and deleting proof of their ignorance. Jimmy Fallon, Jimmy Kimmel, Tina Fey. We'll talk about why that might not be the solution. Talk about something called third degree racism. We'll talk about the massive dust cloud that is floating across the atlantic to swallow the southeastern united states uh and uh what's what people are watching right now what topped the box office last weekend uh there's a box yeah i was just about to ask i don't know that there's a box office aside from trolls too I think I'm excited for that just because of the idea that there

is a box office receipts that need analysis. I think it's all drive-thru. This isn't streaming video. This is what people are watching at drive-in movies. It's not always just things that are coming out now. Some people are just bringing back the old

classics. Is it okay if I shout out streaming shows yeah yeah oh yeah of course we'll do that when we get there yeah for sure we get there of course your opinion as a critic is valued here you never miss yes god damn it never it's too much it's too much responsibility i am i am too shitty to have this much responsibility oh you're such a cursed god you don't realize the power you have it's really something else it's really hard for me to see as a mortal trash ass i'm so trash have you guys have you guys looked ahead on the dock at that story about the

uh about the drive-in movies box office did you see what the number no no not at all okay so it what maybe we can play a guessing game when we get down there but uh it's actually very appropriate the number one movie it's a classic but first daniel we like to ask our guests what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are oh you know what uh now that we're in a place where we can just look at computers and my phone. Fuck it, man. I'm just going to literally look at my search history. I haven't looked at anything.

There you go. I'm literally Danielle Radford is checking her search history. What is the last thing I looked at? Oh, it's a BuzzFeed article. But 25 LGBTQ couples that are amazing, but not a lot of people talk about them and they're all couples that gay ass people talk about so I don't know

what the fuck they're talking about but that was my last search thing was just me being gay as shit you searched for it you heard about the article

and you said let me find the article yeah because I didn't know who it was because someone was like so I have several accounts some of which are. Yeah, because I didn't know who it was. Because someone was like, so I have several accounts, some of which are secret Stan accounts, because I want to stand secretly. And for one of my secret Stan accounts, they were like, oh, well, they mentioned one of

the ships that we all ship. And I was like, oh, I'll check that out. But no one linked it. So I looked it up and I was like, they're also- And who's that? They mentioned like Willow and buffy well that's not the ship if i give away the ship then i give away my my secrets but they mentioned willow and buffy and i was like literally everyone mentions what are you even fucking talking about

everyone mentions willow and buffy if you're talking about gay shit man i'm just getting into the maybe season four where willow is finally starting to fuck with magic you know i mean i'd like to see her come into her own uh with the art dark arts okay uh uh let's talk because a lot of people have a lot of feelings about season literally everything after season three i think oh wait no i think i think i'm in season three, season three is, I will say season three is probably the best season, but a lot of people think everything went like super downhill. Maybe it's not the same, but I think that there's a lot of really good stuff. And I think a lot of them are angel stands.

And then if you like problematic ships, get ready. Cause those are coming. And I love, and I love and i love a i love a problematic ship i hate myself for it oh but i love it what's your favorite problematic ship of all time oh my favorite problematic ship right now is shameless ian and mickey wow i don't watch enough shameless to know who those people are but i'm assuming it's not the father and the daughter oh god no not that problematic okay look i'm just saying i don't know anything so no oh god oh god oh god

no that no that's some fan fiction weird shit uh oh man uh these are just two uh uh uh gay boys who are were not able to be super gay because of their neighborhood uh and sometimes uh uh punch each other only because like punching is the language that they know they punch everyone uh they punch their brothers they punch everyone uh so that's currently i also love logan and veronica from veronica mars that was a problematic ship um i won't spoil it because uh miles are still doing through some buffy but there's a problematic ship coming. Yeah, no, but no, no, no incest?

No incest. Yeah, that's good. I'm just showing my own ignorance, because the only thing I know about this show is William H. Macy and then Emmy Rossum, right, are the people on the show? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm saying, that's the only thing I know, so course you know and that's honestly like if you were to go onto any of the fan fiction sites like it's like if you look up supernatural on a fan fiction site it's incest ahoy and it's weird because i've never watched the show which seems like it would be a show for me but it's also kind of very uh bro-y i uh uh uh i like uh i like my supernatural super gay stuff. That's how I prefer my weirdy stuff, and theirs is very bro-y.

But it gets really gay on the fan sites, and I'm like, that's fine. But why is it so incest-y? Anyway, sorry. I'm diverging. I think things are revealed by the people we ship. Things are revealed by the people we ship. I just googled Supernatural and then Space and it said Supernatural Season 15. Oh, yeah.

They're also still... They had a crossover with Scooby-Doo. They've been in a bunch of stuff. Also, a lot of people want those brothers to fuck. It's so weird. It's funny. Are the writers just in the room like, all right, what are we going to do this season? Don't say the room like all right what are we gonna do this

season and don't say the brothers are gonna fuck it's 15 years at some point someone has to be like okay but people keep saying the brothers need to oh i should just go get coffee i'll just go get coffee yeah right uh daniel what is something you think is underrated i'm gonna be real cliche wearing your fucking mask is underrated uh uh just please keep wearing i mean i i know i'm sure people have said it uh please keep wearing your masks i'm tired of people uh that i love tweeting about uh uh their family and friends dying so uh could you please and also and i mean just selfishly due to things that uh we were hearing from nurses when the first wave was really bad look man i'm a chubby fucking black chick and i am a woman of a certain age look man if i i don't leave my apartment because if i get i and i'm healthy as a horse and i know this because

i recently was having a spat of panic attacks like back last year um which means that they give you a whole battery of tests to make sure it is a panic attack and not that all of your insides are bad um so heart good blood pressure good the thing that everyone will say because i'm fat and black diabetes good you fucking pieces of shit um everything is good i'm i'm like literally like i had twice like a battery of tests that were like nah you're good you just your brain's bad and i was like well i already fucking knew that um but spending a lot of money to figure that piece out already oh god uh it was yeah i'm not looking forward to it i literally uh for people who no one here watches anything i do but i had my first panic attack on air um luckily i was and i was hosting at screen junkies uh slash fandom and luckily uh it was right at the end and i uh as gracefully as

i could i went oh and then everyone started talking around me and I went oh I have to go because if I was gonna die I was not gonna die on air you motherfuckers but so my thing is is that like if I go in and I have uh COVID symptoms I don't know that they're not gonna say she's a lost cause and don't put her on a goddamn respirator I don't know that man um and i again i'm fucking that well not as well no a horse i'm smaller than one but like i i don't know that and um there have been too many reports of otherwise super healthy like 25 30 year olds who yeah i'm not fucking doing it. And then again, I've had friends who have, uh, uh, had a lot,

had family members pass away. Um, I've known people who've passed away. Um, Lori Kilmartin recently had, she, yeah. Breaking run on Twitter that I think everybody,

if you followed her, everyone was glued to, but at the same time, so heartbreaking. Yeah. Like, uh, it's's she is

she processes humor the way that i do where it's like man i'm just gonna joke through it and she did and it's so um open and harsh and uh heartbreaking and vulnerable um and if you can read that twitter thread and not wear a mask after that fuck you you're the worst person i've ever met not met you're the worst person in the world yeah i think it's it's it's it's things like that too where you know as people get cocky and because their city leaders have been lobbied furiously by business interests to reopen are taking that as a sign that things are safe uh no they we don't we're not we're not any close to having the kinds of treatments uh we need to to feel good about taking any kind

of risk like that we're still trusting businesses to know what the fuck that is about health guys like that's not their job uh and a lot of times business is not their job they have other people behind them who are like hey this is a bad business thing. And they're like, yeah, but I'm going to do it. And then all the people they pay are like, okay, but this is really shitty. And then it gets up to the people who are like, yeah, but we already told him that. And then he was like, I'm not going to do it. So say it again and you're going to get real fired.

My performance bonus is tied to how he fills out a survey at the end of the year. Exactly. And when you hear about people making those big bucks, those big bucks happen those bonuses can't be used because they are not quote unquote consistent oh i'm real cranky today hey no this is there's a lot of ills in the world i think we're we just need to talk about consistently because i think prior to this there are a lot of times it's been very easy to just sort of be like accept that the world is a cruel fucked up place and i think there's definitely a certain there's certain movement of people depending on where how they're motivated to address that we have just been ignoring that everything is fucked up and

now we're like oh wait hold on hold on hold on hold the fuck up hold the fuck up this everybody's seeing this cruel ass shit right everybody is saying that doesn't it actually doesn't seem to matter where you live or anything like everyone is operating under the same cruel system but you know i think it takes people are moving at different speeds to get to that place to want to feel like you know motivated enough to take it into their own hands and want to change for the better. What is something you think is overrated? People telling me that I would hate cops less if I was

related to one. My dad's a cop. Fuck your face. I hate cops. All cops suck. Mostly my dad. Is there an acronym for all cops are bastards, but especially my dad? is there a is there an acronym for all cops are bastards but especially my dad is there a all cops are my dad i don't know because i can like it's and for people who might know who i like obvious i'm my stepdad's fucking the dopest he's my pops whatever uh his

profession also has problems but he's not a piece of shit yeah i like every time i say something about like because i've thrown it in um where i've been like is he a cop shit uh and people have always been like well you wouldn't feel that way if someone you were related to had their life on the line fuck your face man i feel extra that way because i heard the way that my fucking dad talked about the people that were in his in fact one of the when he was trying to stop being because at a point we got to a point where he was like okay well he's not my dad but maybe he can be like almost the realm of like an uncle I don't see like I don't hate him but we acknowledge each other's presence at parties um and then at one

point I was living in the area that he was a cop of and he was be like, oh, I want to get out of here because there's all the fruits and nuts. And I was like, you know that I am both literally suffering, not suffering, but you know that I am both a person dealing with mental illness and also queer as shit. Right. And so then we just stopped talking. And then now a thing that I found out is that his precinct, his old precinct, I don't know where he is now. He goes wherever he goes. I'm giving shit. He goes wherever dads go. You know how there's the farm that pets go to?

Right. He goes to wherever shitty dads go to. That great big convenience store in the sky where they have cigarettes and milk. Yeah. Arizona, where the cigarettes are plentiful. Where the store is that all these dads refer to when they go to the store. Yeah, so he's at the store. But I know that the precinct that he was working at, where he was always like, oh, the fruits and nuts, and we hate all of them, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, is the precinct that people took over in Seattle to make The Zone.

Uh-oh. Capitol Hill. Uh-huh. Yeah. Because that was where I lived for so many years. is the precinct that people took over in Seattle to make the zone. Uh-oh. Capitol Hill. Uh-huh. Yeah. Because that was where I lived for, like, so many years. But, yeah, so that was East Precinct was his precinct. Uh-uh. So that was really nice to find out.

It's so interesting to see the people's, like, logic loops they go through where they're like, I'm going to humanize someone who is actively participating in dehumanizing other people. Like at that point. Right. You know, but again, this is just this isn't about objectively talking about police. Like all this has done has been like, all right, new culture war battle zone. Go.

Right. And yeah, it's just, you know, people aren't there aren't many people I've seen like on the right who are willing to examine how over policing would work more than just to be like defend the defund the police which is so defend the police which is so funny because ain't they don't want to get treaded isn't that their whole fucking spiel uh yeah don't don't don't steppy or whatever well yeah just like like i'm a me don't put your boot on it which is like well don't put don't tread on me. All of you were begging porn stars to step on your necks a year ago, back when that was still funny. Right.

But also, yeah. Don't tread on me, but let me lick the tread of your boot, please. It must taste good, right? It must be like Froot Loops under there, like some shit. But yeah, so that's my overrated thing, is people telling me that if a relative because like my whole family you are cops military like some kind of law thing cops military legal which i was a paralegal for a while or you were straight up a criminal in jail and that's my family um and so everyone had a strong hand in participating in a system of oppression yeah pretty shit uh uh and uh turns out a lot of the queer ones were the ones that were mostly

it's fine um but so yeah uh that's that's my overrated thing stop telling me that i would care more if my dad was a cop he was a top cop i i i cared none uh uh all cops are bastards especially my dad what is uh what's a myth danielle what's something people think is true you know to be false or vice versa oh gosh literally any way that hollywood works i don't know if i've said this before um especially i think now um that everyone's at home and we're all whatever and everyone has opinions about when movies come out and all of this stuff and there's just there's a lot of moving parts to movies and i think that people who don't know think it's more of an art than it is a business um it's all it's all fucking business man especially like the way that

hollywood works um just oh i mean i mean that might be a better one just the idea that like you get something because you know someone you might you might get it if someone can trust that you won't completely fuck it up and then fuck up their good name they might put your resume in with stuff and that's like the most that you get you don't get shit uh unless i mean nepotism obviously like if you're unless you know like the showrunner yeah yeah or you know if you're and people don't talk about this people always make fun of the wayans for having uh keenan give them all jobs no one talks about the copulas cage is a fucking copula you guys uh at least they have the

the fucking wherewithal to not change their fucking names they're like no we're wayans like you know what time it is everyone's like i'm nick cage or i'm jason schwartzman or i am angelina jolie yeah granted some people's names legally aren't copula but like when you really look at it you're like damn all y'all are everybody's here damn angelina jolie's a coppola not a coppola no no no but her you know her dad oh her dad right right right right great patriot john voight john voight but yeah no but no she's not a coppola but there are a schwartzman is a coppola as uh miles was saying yeah a lot of people don't know that jason schwartzman is a coppola and people don't fucking know that.

And he like his I don't think it was his first movie, but I remember when Rushmore was in production, they were like doing nationwide tryouts for that role. OK, like they came to the school that I was at and did like tryouts. And then they were like, huh, we we're gonna go with a coppola i think yeah i uh i i and to be fair i did i did uh make this reference on twitter but it reminds me very much of when um tori spelling when she did saved by the bell they were all like oh well she she auditioned under a fake name we didn't know it was her as though that's the way the fucking auditions for network tv works okay cool just anyone with any fucking name okay sweet um and then they said the same thing again for 90210 uh both of which are spelling productions where they're like oh no she came in and auditioned with a fake name again as if that is a thing that actually works and expected us and then by that

point we were like well tori spelling is just a person that will be in our life and we're fine um but they keep doing this myth of like oh well we're pretending like the dude it's fucking just just stand up in your nepotism whatever your daddy got you a job like it's i i know you think we won't take you seriously um and if you're shitty you're right Angelina Jolie is actually a talented actor Nicholas Cage turned out to be good Sophia Nicholas Cage turned out to be a meme also that but when he wants to be good he can be good yeah I can't take leaving Las Vegas from

yeah you know there are people who came from famous folks who are dope but it's that idea, because everyone pretends like they changed their last name because they want to make sure that they're not being treated unfairly. No, you're doing it because you don't want us to make fun of you. Anyway, I'm talking too much.

Like Albert Brooks, I get. Your real name's Albert Einstein. It's going to be hard to gig when your name's out. And then your brother had to be Super Dave Osborne. You know what I mean? What a wild family that is. It's even funny because Jason Schwartzman's brother Robert he's in that band Rooney like everybody's got like uh you know but hey that's that's sort of like what it's kind of like how LA is though you know to a certain extent right like a lot of the you know

progeny of these producers and and executives and and things like that, they end up at like one of three schools in the city and they all go to school together. And then you get Jonah Hill in a movie because he went to school with Dustin Hoffman's daughter. And she's like, this kid, Jonah's the funniest kid at my school. He should be in your movie. And then his sister is in movies and we don't even know it's a sister because they have different last names. Right. But, you know, I think at the end of the day it's so weird too like jack's making a face what's her butt from uh what's her butt uh from book smart is his sister what is it beanie feldman

beanie feldman is his sister yeah that's amazing you can tell when you watch him too you're like yeah once you know it you can't see it yeah yeah it's all just a family business but if you're not family it's not as easy to break in with friendship yeah no no absolutely not yeah the myth of american meritocracy is real and pervasive and that is a whole other complete and total bullshit um i think we're actually gonna get into it when we get to third degree racism but let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about that and bill barr I think we're actually going to get into it when we get to third degree racism. But let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about that and Bill Barr. This summer, the nation watched as the Republican nominee for president was the target of two assassination attempts separated by two months.

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Yeah, he really is. He's, I mean, when he first showed up, it's like, okay, he's going to take over the DOJ. And some people are like, maybe he'll help the country. Look, we're all so stupid. Every time someone comes in who isn't a complete... This is a guy. If it's someone we've never heard of, we're like,

oh, maybe he's not a complete piece of shit. They're all complete pieces of shit. They wouldn't have drafted them to come in and do anything, guys. Right. That's why they came in. They're all pieces of shit. Yeah, like Jefferson Beauregard Sessions is a cartoon of racism. So it's like easy to just be like, well, so they got to be better than him.

But it's like he this guy is more efficient. I think they got that. Yeah, they got the baby from dinosaurs turned into a fucking attorney general, basically. Not the mega. Yeah. There's so many photos of him where I'm like it looks anyway shout out to jim henson it is the um so you know there's just been like a constant stream of controversies with this guy whether it was completely misrepresenting the robert muller thing

um and uh you know backing the doj and all kinds of ridiculous decisions you know like reversing course on roger stone or general flynn things like that that's all been with him at the wheel and now uh-oh it's time to dust off that favorite drop because now it's time for return of the whistleblowers they are here and they are ready uh and a couple well here's the thing i mean i say that as if something's gonna happen because we all know uh the constitution doesn't mean anything anymore and that's the problem and we're still playing a game where the people are going to have to figure out that the constitution is not does not mean anything so we're going to figure out what we do after that uh but so as this happens these whistleblowers are

here testifying in front of the house judiciary committee and it's just like the it's just essentially they're saying the thing we all knew that there is just the most ridiculous politicization and pressure campaigns on people within DOJ to do whatever is going to help President Trump. This is just one sentence, right? It shouldn't be surprising. But when you read this, like, it's, I don't know, maybe you'll feel something. Maybe you'll just go deeper into the nihilistic abyss that is trying to exist in this administration. But this is what Aaron Zielinski, who was the Roger Stone prosecutor, said in his opening statement that he read on Wednesday to the Judiciary Committee. Part of it, he says, quote, I was told that acting U.S. attorney for the District of Columbia, Timothy Shea, was receiving heavy pressure from the highest levels of the Department of Justice to cut Roger Stone a break and that the U.S. attorney's sentencing instructions to us were based on political considerations.

I was also told that the acting U.S. attorney was giving Stone such unprecedentedly favorable treatment because he was, quote, afraid of the president, end quote. I mean, but that's very confusing. Right. I mean, just in terms of like this dude's like afraid of the president we should probably like cut him some slack and also never uh whoever's making his outfits no longer cut him slacks um they are bad and you should feel bad the slacks are bad his outfits are bad it's just um and everything that we like the other things we've heard out of

whistleblowers, whether it's someone from the antitrust division being like, Bill Barr made me look at like cannabis weed, like cannabis companies in Colorado for like antitrust things. And that's completely not what we do. He just wanted us to harass them because he doesn't like legal cannabis. So that, so there's a lot of shit like this. But again, these are all things everyone has known to be true. Like these aren't, this isn't really bringing anything to light aside from, you know, unfortunately

this guy Zielinski and the other whistleblowers, I'm sure we'll just get smeared to high hell on right wing news at some point. But, you know, if we can't actually have remedies, you know, for example, one of the circuit judges basically upheld the decision to give Michael Flynn that like just, you know, we're dropping the charges. All good. Yeah, that's that's happening all in real time from this appointee who is actually saying that, you know, once the prosecution says something, we just have to like the decision essentially saying once the prosecution decides to do something, we just have to go with that. Even if it's so transparently clear that it's just steeped in corruption that that's just what the precedent is now so yeah sorry we're there i mean we're there yeah thank god we're not doing award seasons right now because i don't want fucking all of these dudes hanging out in the back and giving out awards and be like oh it's me i'm

wacky and now i'm dancing with the stars um right so at least there's not tv now to normalize all of their weird shittiness man i i wish i wasn't uh i feel like i didn't mean it to be and it's it feels so nihilistic again to be like my brand but i i feel like i try to be as positive as i can with everything it turns out uh uh danielle radford positivity has a fucking breaking point and it was literally this year and all the stuff i've already known but it just like this year like things happening like ah everyone is the worst so So at least I'm not and I say that flippantly, but. We have especially well, not we, especially liberals, and I don't know, there's a apparently and I haven't looked into it, man. There's a difference between liberals and leftists. And when I do this and progressives, when I do even a crutch of research, whatever people uh are in love with biden are i am to the left of whatever

the fuck that is because you're not a liberal right type um so like that's like i i whoever people like i i i'm a hold my noser so uh yay but there's always, and look, I, of course, we have to allow for people to grow and change and learn. But I think that there is a different fucking standard when you are in government. There's a different fucking standard when you are working for government. And I know it's hard to whistleblow,

and I know whatever, but you took that position knowing that shit was corrupt as fuck no one and uh trump nothing was planned so everyone who came in by the time they came in they knew that this was what it was i'm sorry like there's been uh nothing was planned so many people have been cycled out. We didn't have a secretary. Do we have a secretary of state right now? No one knows. Like it's, I mean, it's Mike Pompeo,

but who knows what he does. But yeah, we didn't have any of those things for a while. And so if you're coming in now, you knew what it was and you took it because you wanted the thing. And I'm sure that many of them took it because they knew that like, well, eventually I'll get on SNL. i'll get to sell my book i'll get on bill maher and say oh trump sucks okay well

where were you when he sucked and why did you take the position to me right if you take any trump position at any point during his his presidency um you're trash you're shill i'm happy if you uh if if you're a whistleblower and you want to whatever but like where were you when it was happening i'm sorry these whistleblowers point they're not like appointees so they're like career like us attorneys so they actually prosecute they resigned when the doj said we're gonna we want a lesser sentence they were just like oh then we resign because that's not what we're here to do. We're here to actually. Which is also very dope. And I'm happy that folks stayed around, but it's also, I don't know. Well, it's a double-edged sword because I feel like a lot

of people too, who feel duty bound, like if you weren't a political appointee and you were in one of these positions and as, as your career, you were like, I was always trying to equally apply the law. That's like why I became an attorney. And then suddenly it gets co-opted. I see that there is some, you know, people who are just wanting to like, maybe we can change it. But this is the thing that happens because then at a certain point, morale gets so low, you purge everybody.

And then you're going to fill it with the kinds of people who absolutely are just all the invertebrate snakes and shit and i do and i do understand the idea of like well we're gonna stay and try to change it from the inside um it's fucked either way i think there's really no it's hard to say one's better than the other there's no brockovich's in this man like there's no right uh i don't know yeah just the first couple years of like people who worked for the epa like under the trump administration like listening to their they were like we got to stick around because the people he brings in next are gonna be like way worse and it just they just got ground into dust and i think that that's that's my thing is that like you, and okay, maybe, and it's true, it's fair.

They might not have known that that was what was going to happen. We did. But maybe they had hope. I wish that more of them, I know that they were trying to do, and there's also like a media responsibility. And if you weren't flashy for the media, you weren't getting coverage. I get it. responsibility and if you weren't flashy for the media you weren't getting coverage i get it but uh the idea that it could be i will stay with this administration and take it down from the inside that's why all of you followed like these weird um blah blah anonymous oh i'm with and we all did

i did man i probably have to go back and purge this as soon as this fucking thing comes out like oh i'm epa anonymous i am parks anonymous i'm blah blah because we want to believe there are people trying to take it down from the inside man they just weren't and i think that there might have been more power in a surge of people and i know it's hard because money and family and responsibility but you know what you guys all have more of that than the rest of us do. Like more money, more ability. Yeah. I think, you know, I think even then it's the idea that you can bring this down from the inside, I think, is just a fallacy in and of itself.

It's a dream. The only things we've seen is you bring it down from the outside. Because when people got outside and started bringing shit down uh we started seeing things happen this you know this and that's literally how it's always happened this is right exactly like this sort of you know faux decorum we have around the idea of like passing these laws to get things done like that it's almost just like this weird you know just putting the brakes on getting to the end game of equality we're trying to get to uh so you know i think people need to be just as engaged and willing to realize that we also have power in solidarity too that clearly was able to

communicate some ideas over the last month yeah and if you're like a weird holdover and you are making like 20 grand a month like or not a month sorry uh 20 grand a year like okay it's not great but like i get it for poor people but no one like come on if you're working for the doj and you're making 150 whatever amount that you're making a year uh anything like like i know houses families i get it but at a certain point you gotta you gotta have a reckoning with yourself and and just sit down and have a i don't know man well the hardest part is because the reason i feel like you even say like that doesn't work but i don't know i get it is because we understand though implicitly that because of the way this system works of having to

work to live because if you don't work, you have no house, you have no health insurance, nothing, that's how people, like, that's your option. It turns out maybe capitalism sucks, maybe. Oh, yeah, I mean, I think if people haven't figured that shit out. All right, guys, hold on here. Hold on, let me get in here before this thing gets off the tracks here.

Turns out maybe we should examine the entire system. You want every Circuit City and Toys R Us to shut down? Okay. You want every Radio Shack to be out of business? You want every Blockbuster to not be there? Okay, that'll be the day. That'll be the day. Oh, sure. Grocery store runs like the post office. luck buster to not be there okay that'll be the day that'll be okay day oh sure grocery store

runs like the post office um all right uh let's talk real quickly uh or at length about uh what cassie dacosta called in the daily beast hollywood's blackface apology tour um yeah she said not very convincing uh jimmy kimmel jimmy fallon the jimmies uh and tina fey yeah i mean hey they're doing the they're doing a great job of doing the thing we were saying don't do which is just do symbolic things that make people believe you understand what's going on you know Kimmel say he was V sorry uh he was simply he and even in his apology he was defending his black face while wearing by saying you know I was just trying to impersonate a fellow human that's how I saw it I didn't see it get the fuck sorry fall back I apologize I'm so dark color thing yeah it's bullshit and it's it's so tired

like that's and actually a nice try to try and defend your racist bullshit but you just played yourself even in that defense jimmy kimmel fallon was doing the same thing tina fey is like you know the episodes that in 30 rock where characters are in blackface strike them from the record so that no uh no evidence remains of my transgressions when history looks back on the work i may have done or not have done may have not done and i think a lot of people if depending on how engaged you are in this topic would be like wow they get it but that's what the whole thing is meant to do is just to communicate that people get it but this isn't this whole this whole thing, right, isn't just about George Floyd and the countless others that have been murdered by police. This

is a larger reckoning with systemic racism and white supremacy and all the ways in which it disenfranchises people and keeps them oppressed. I think that's why we also see people in Europe were like, yeah, actually, even though we're not in America, we're feeling this feeling of like anti-blackness, oppression, colonialism, slavery, whatever. Let's fucking take this shit down. There is motivation to address that. So these symbolic things of like saying I'm sorry or you'll never find those episodes on, you know, Peacock or whatever the fuck. It's they're just these gestures. or whatever the fuck it's they're just these gestures and it takes more than like firing a couple bad cops for us to be like okay the police get it or deleting these clips of you in blackface

we're asking for real fucking change we're asking for like systemic changes overhaul uh so in the same way that we're saying law enforcement needs to be completely defunded, abolished, and rethought of how we enforce the laws and even think of what we consider crime, because really, most of the time when we talk about crime, we're just talking about poor people trying to survive. And it's a very disingenuous label that makes anybody who's struggling less than a person who deserves dignity. It makes anybody who's struggling less than a person who deserves dignity. We are also asking that Hollywood and every place has the same mindset of defunding and abolishing the bullshit within the realm you operate in. It's not just Hollywood can't just be like, well, you know, we paid for that, that all black lives matter on Hollywood Boulevard that we then let the city, you know, water fucking pressure wash out the second the things ended.

It's about looking at the levers you're at and what levers you can pull so i'd rather hear what these three people who are very powerful in television and comedy saying actually you know what i realize i can now there is a way for me to completely flip the fucking tables here because i'm i'm at the table but they just want to do yeah getting rid of the blackface clips miles jack can i tell you that i am so fucking tired yeah we do this every two years we do this every two years um this one felt different for a second we'll see what happens i'm so fucking tired man. Um, it's, it's just, it's always black folks getting murdered,

queer folks. Maybe we don't have rights all of a sudden and we don't know. And, and then, and this time we got lucky because this bunch of assholes decided that we get to have rights a couple of weeks ago. Uh, women are,

are talking about all of the stuff that happened in the workplace i'm i'm so fucking tired you guys like i i don't i wish that i had like a more eloquent funny way to phrase it um and i probably will like literally three seconds after i get out i'll be like ah there was a funny line i could have said uh i'm just i i'm'm, I am at that intersection of like so many of these things where I'm just like, I'm fucking exhausted. And I'm, I like Tina Fey. I think she's very funny.

I think that she has long had issues with, and a lot of people have said like, well, that was the point of that character. Okay, cool. What about the other stuff? What like like you can say well the point of that character was that they were shitty but why there's a way to make jokes that reflect that the character is a shit person and there's a way to make jokes where it's like i just want to make that joke why on kimmy schmidt was there a dude who was named like dong like that is a like uh and yeah that character had agency and was able to be like that's shitty but you kept making that joke my dude yeah um uh and i'm not saying you can't make jokes that

push the envelope or whatever because that's always like the that's always the the defense i'm not saying you can't do that but like actually do that don't just be like oh well we're uh it's blackface it's whatever it's there was this and we've talked about it i i think you guys have talked about it i think as a comedy community we've all talked about it in the 2000s we were all fucking reckless man like oh yeah like the currency was be as shocking as you could, do the most shocking shit you could. Yes. And that was the currency.

And I think a lot of people have a lot to reckon with back then. And I think a lot of us have moved on from that because we recognize that that was shitty and awful. And lazy. And lazy. And actually like not because I think jokes about race that's like the boss level of humor and irony if you can craft actually accurate eloquent humor or jokes around race it's not easy and i think a lot of people just do the thing of like dude i'm just pointing out that that's racist and we're laughing that that thing is racist and that's lazy versus

that's racist. And we're laughing that that thing is racist and that's lazy versus crafting some kind of joke that actually goes deeper than saying racism exists and actually, you know, exposing the psyche of the kinds of people who engage in it. Those are the jokes I find myself. They're almost like the kind of jokes you don't laugh because they're so real.

It's go. Well, yeah, it's like there, there's a huge difference between like, oh, well you guys are just supposed to know that i i did this thing like the several sarah silverman show you guys are just supposed to know

it was ironic all right is that how jokes work um because if it's not funny and whatever it doesn't communicate the idea um so it's and that was even in the 2000s this was like too recent yeah and i'm not saying i have opinions about a cancel about cancel culture that i've i've i don't think it fucking exists first of all i think usually the people who are like oh we canceled blah blah blah we got them out of here it's kids man being stupid and wanting to spread memes on on on your uh on your twitter hashtags on your on your tiktoks uh right the kids are doing most people who are genuinely thoughtful people are not going around being like we canceled this unless they're joking um it's not about a cancel culture it's about like yo you did this thing fucking own up to it learn and move on and i think that when people are able depending on what they did because some shit it's like like you raped a

bunch of kids you don't maybe you get to just be in jail forever. Right. But I do think that there is a space for people to learn and grow. But I also think that, like, you should probably, more than just erasing the shit that you did, acknowledge the learning and growing. Yeah. Or realize, yo, actually, I need to sub myself out. And I need to sub somebody else in. Well, and this is like maybe a niche reference. I don't know. But DJ No Name was someone who No Name was. She classically, well, not classically, a lot of people don't know this, but No Name was someone who learned from things that she had said did the reading learned um and then made this great

book club for people to be like hey these are like things you can read to like learn about stuff because we don't all we don't come out of the womb knowing things um uh and the reading is out there and that's dope and that's good work and there are a lot of people who have said like hey i've done some stuff in the past that was like really shitty and terrible and i take responsibility and this is what i'm doing to move forward and like i feel like again except for like the the major things where it's like hey uh maybe don't uh ask a bunch of 16 year olds for their titties um for the most part i think that we're all in a place where it's like yo no one's born perfect but like just acknowledge you did we've all done shit that was fucked up man uh just acknowledge that you did shit that was fucked up and be like yo i you're right i fucked

up i'm learning and here's that's what i'm doing and not just like erasing the thing where you're like oh this was terrible i guess we have to get rid of it cool but people yeah they're more concerned about the actual financial aspects of it than the human growth you know what i mean i think because that's what the these people doing these things just help them appear so their ad dollars can still flow in and they've always been on the right side of like a political take or something to try and shield them from this kind of real valid criticism. But in this thing, in this article that this opinion piece that Cassie DeCostro, she brings up cancel culture in an interesting way. She says still on the other side of this is from her article, still on the other side of an apology, no matter how butchered or non-existent is the question of forgiveness. And this is usually the space where the idea of cancel culture materializes. Often when we think about forgiveness,

we think of a transaction. I'll give you one forgiveness for one apology, or I'll give you no forgiveness for endless apologies. In cancel culture, the idea is that the harm committed is so great that there should be no path to forgiveness, and in particular to the continued accumulation of wealth or benefit in the community or industry in which the harm was committed in reality it's rare for a real cancellation to occur for the rich and famous exactly they're rich no matter how publicly reviled tend to remain rich exactly and that's like the i'm sorry like that's exactly and that's one of the reasons why it's like most people don't take that shit seriously like yeah if you have money you're fine you take a break for two years

you take a breather louis ck is still doing shows like all these people are still doing shows and performing um bill cosby is in jail but if he wasn't in jail he oh i was gonna he's appealing he's gonna appeal his charge isn't he of course he is he has money yeah i think he just was able to start like they just said now that he could, he could appeal. Yeah, man, him and he's, and you know what?

He's, he's older and, and he has the name of Cosby and the money of Cosby, but it's like most people like are not God about that. Like there are smaller names. Um, but if you have enough money, yeah,

you can dodge all of it. And that's why it's also, I don't, everyone calls cancel culture a thing who's actually been canceled it's mostly just like kids posting memes on facebook and the rest of us being like well that's a shitty thing how about you talk about it and we don't ever talk about and and uh the discussion isn't oh well a bunch of people ask them to um be accountable for things that they did it's always like well blah blah blah was canceled because if that was the case like there's so many people that would have been

gotten out the paint like uh there are so many blah blah blah was canceled parties taylor swift canceled party has been uh trending a million times and will trend a million more times um that's not real or valid yeah and it's also again unless you like committed like crimes i think most of us are like learned shit and then each one teach one i think it's a i think it's a way just for people who feel powerless to feel like that's a thing that can be done it's like well the law clearly won't handle this. Clearly the industry you're in won't handle this. So the most I can do as a human being is put you in this space in my brain, which is canceled, which is like, you are done because that's the only justice I can serve out

in any way is to, for me to completely disconnect myself from this person and not support them and not be, say a good word. Because what I'm seeing reflected back to me is that there actually is no way for someone who's a transgressor to have any kind of at least when you're rich because i think the people who go viral on twitter it's like if you have a job a nine to five you can be canceled clearly uh for your racism like there's a way where you you see the same thing viral video of a person being racist cut to you know them losing their job or something like that. That's like the closest thing I've seen where there's, you know, documented evidence of someone behaving completely in a terrible fashion. And then there are repercussions for them that would signal to them that this is not a good way for you to behave.

Because when you're at a certain socioeconomic level, those lessons just don't reach you. Right. And it's also, I mean, and you're right. Like a lot of it is, um, that it is just people being like, I don't have power. I, but I could again, tweet this meme, do this thing, have this joke. Um, I, I, there is to me a big difference between everyone has the right to say you did something that I am not cool with. I am not going to support you monetarily. I am not going to support the art that you make. And like, that is, that's at its core. When people say this person was canceled, the reason why companies and other places stop supporting someone is because they're like oh well people aren't gonna buy your like every we're in capitalism we are all just fucking pawns dude like it's how much

money we can make this person or that person or whatever if you don't make them money that's when you get quote unquote canceled because they're like well we can't make money off of you anymore so we're just gonna move you off the board And everyone has a right to say what they will or will not support monetarily. And a lot of the stuff I see that's anti-cancel culture is very much like, well, you have to support me or you have to support this. Not, not, I don't, I don't support anything with my money and my resources. That's trash. And that's why companies say like, we don't want to work with anyone anymore because it's capitalism all the way down, dude. Has Jane Krakowski said anything about being in blackface?

Does she have a Twitter account or even know what that is? Or are they, like, is she absolved because she didn't write it and she's merely, like, the actor? Because I'm curious to hear, too. Like, it's not, you know you know on some level as a performer you get the script and you're looking at it like wait i'm doing blackface in this episode and you're like oh i'm oh my god oh my god i love it uh it's gonna be so funny lolol or did she feel really uncomfortable and just felt that societally she wasn't you know we weren't at a place where she could speak up and advocate on behalf of, you know, other people.

Like it's, I'm interesting to see all those levels because on, you know, it's not just Tina Fey. Like it's also the actor who then embodies the script and goes out there and I get it. You have contracts and things like that, but I'm just curious to know what they're feeling, what like what their thought process is in this moment looking back

when Tina Fey seems to be getting a lot of the you know headlines well and honestly she should be as uh it was her show she should be um yeah absolutely for sure for sure i'm just it's more like i feel like she has to account i'm just curious what that experience is like for her i wonder well because it's oh god it's like speaking up about anything else right there's a possibility that she went in and said i I am really uncomfortable with this. Or I guess at that point had her management come in and say, we're really uncomfortable with this. And then someone smooths it over and says,

no, like this is the intent. It's totally going to be fine. We've been doing this forever. We know what the line is and we know that this is okay. And also, she is a very talented actress and she is really funny in that show name me major roles that she has done that hasn't been tina fey ali mcbeal right tight name me major role well no no no and i think that's great but like that's where she i mean no i don't know no no no you're right but like name me in the last like those were her things

and she you know we we and it does it sucks man but it's you hit your wagon to a star and it's kind of like this is taking me to a certain point and this was even she wasn't even originally cast for that role that was supposed to be um what's her about sorry i can't think of names right now my brain is rachel dratch um and in in the pilot that was rachel dratch and it wound up being her and i don't even man i don't know how much people get paid i'm sure that it's more than i make but it's also jane crinson like she's not bowling over hollywood and getting a lot of work that is one of those things where it's like this might be my one not to last me the rest of my life she

was a woman um who was not young um and that makes a difference and it doesn't excuse it but to me it makes more of a like it's not exactly like she could go and make a commiserate. Like when I talk about people who work at DOJ and people who work at the white house and other stuff, you would go to a law office and make that money. You could go to other places. Yeah. It's not the prestige.

It's not the white house, but you can make that money elsewhere. I don't, again, what is Jane? Is she going to work at a radio shack? Like what's she going to do? There's no place for an actor or actor,

performer, you know, to go and just say like, well, here's my resume. Okay, so can I get this, you know, acting teacher gig at this high school? You know what I mean? Like, because the industry is dominated by this singular way of thinking and a very homogeneous culture

that is running it at the top that yeah like that's the other thing again that to this point of like that has to be addressed to and broken up because that's the same thing yeah and even like with when uh you know john stewart was talking about like the writer's room practices in the daily show sort of like we didn't you know we removed you know any kind of names that would signify like gender or race or anything like that so we're just going off the work but at a certain point because everybody's thinking the same you're just going to agree with everything that's reflecting your shared worldview and it's never going to challenge you and then you're like wait how did we end up like this and who's getting let into harvard and who has money

to do ucb and who has money to do these unpaid internships where they can learn how to write things? And who has blah, blah, blah, blah, fucking blah. The thing from, I really like Tina Fey's Bossy Pants memoir, but there's this passage where she talks about, like it's like a joke, a sentence. She's like a very funny writer, but there's this passage where she writes about

how she constructs a writer's room. And she literally says half of the people have to be from Harvard right and the other half of the people need to be from Second City or UCB and it's just like well there's your problem and then one screwball and one wacky one who does the jokes that you say yeah we don't do that but I'm gonna say this right now I have been doing comedy. Okay. I've been, take it way back. I've been acting for basically all of my life. Like, uh, I mean, student stuff, uh, uh, the high school stuff, whatever, but I've been acting for most of my life. Um, I have been doing standup for, uh, gosh, I don't know, over a decade. I have been in LA, um, for what, six, six seven years and then when i first

got here i was doing um a bunch of temp work and whatever this is gonna sound shitty but it is true i am i have a tv gig i am working on tv and it's very recent i have just now gotten to the point where i could afford a fucking ucb class That is fucking stupid. No, that's fucking stupid. And my college is obviously like, that stuff is also trash that I can't fucking afford or pay for. But at least, I mean, it's all shit, but at least those were loans. And I'm not even kidding.

Before I got booked on a TV gig as a writer and to do voiceover, I could not afford a UCB class. Right. Trash, man. Trash. Yeah. The only way I could, like, when I started getting into comedy,

it's when I left politics, and I just had to save a ton of money because I was like, man, I was just looking at these classes. I'm like, what the fuck is this? Like, I got to pay $600 for some guy who I don't think is funny to tell me how to write. But fine. And they're rarely ever fucking funny. Right.

And I'm like, I guess I know how to. They're not the good ones. But I know the game now and I can write a great game sketch. But also like when you have, the other thing is too, like you get instructors there who like don't understand your humor and shit on you. Or their critiques of your work has a dampening effect on your creativity rather than like being an actual nurturer like as a teacher and then it's you know there's so many levels too where there are a lot of cultural mismatches in comedy where people are like telling groups of people that that's not funny or this isn't as funny but yeah it's it's tough

at theater school and this was i mean granted this was a long time ago i won't say how long but i i would get notes because i was the only black person in my theater class i would get notes that would be like too urban to this to that like why are you this urban why are you this that or whatever um and from what and again i've never i will say this i have never experienced working at second city or u UCB but for things I've heard from other people it's only been very recently where they've been like oh yeah I guess your all-black team can like do a herald or whatever I guess like it's valid and you don't have to blank yourself totally out because when they say and this was an experience I had in

theater school they say to make yourself neutral neutral is white neutral is not any anything else neutral is get rid of everything that's excuse me oh god i'm burping up coffee every like neutral is not the default is white and that is what is taught in schools is that uh you that is your default is you have to talk this way. You have to whatever. Like you have to have a Midwestern accent. You have to be okay with straightening your hair. And like some things are like, okay, like tattoos, whatever. Piercings, okay. I get it.

Those things are optional. But – Yeah, who you are as a human being is not. Who you are as a human being, yeah. But that is the expectation. If you want to get ahead, you have to be neutral. And being neutral means being white. Right.

And I think this goes back to how at every level, no matter where someone is, you have opportunities to correct the course of these kinds of things. If you find yourself as a teacher, think of your curriculum and what you are communicating to your students. Or if you work somewhere and you know that there's a way for you to change something where you work to actually address this problem. Like, let's say, just say, well, we don't, we don't get a lot of black people who apply for the job. It's probably because you don't post your job anywhere either. And it could be so insular that your job is strictly through word of mouth. And because of that, you've completely cut off people who are

not in your social group or socioeconomic class. That's, there are things like that, just very subtle things you could look at that are very telling and people can actually do little things like do that work. Do you pay for your internships? And if you do, what colleges are you looking through? Are you just looking for colleges or are you also looking, there are very talented people in all things like it would it be possible for people to say i want to do an internship and yeah um maybe i did community college but i haven't done i'm not at harvard like maybe i've done or even um i've written this many articles that have been published or i've written these things i can show you my work yeah i didn't get into yale but like i because for some

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And we're back. And real quickly, I just want to talk about a cool thing that I saw in the media, which is this massive dust cloud that's floating across the Atlantic. It's about to swallow the southeast of the United States. You can see it from space. The pictures from space are wild. It's just like a big brown spot on the Atlantic Ocean.

Oh, my God. It takes up almost all of the Atlantic Ocean. Yeah. atlantic oh my god like it takes up almost all of the atlantic ocean um yeah but this kind of got me going down a rabbit hole uh where i had seen in a netflix nature documentary that like a lot of the life in the um ocean comes from dust that gets blown from land over the over the ocean and then it goes down and like there's all these minerals that then feed the plankton. But they were saying that 50% of the particles in the air in southern Florida every summer come from Africa. That's how much of an interchange there is

between the two land masses and their dust so it's pretty rad it's making uh the caribbean look like mexico in a steven sorterberg movie but it's uh pretty pretty cool looking from space and pretty wild that like i don't know can blow a whole a whole cloud clear across the world it's uh it's wild like when you think of the power of the sahara desert and yeah what it can do like when i uh when i was like in ghana there's like a season called hamatan where the the winds from the sahara basically turn like west africa into this hazy time and i remember being like what is this and when you realize you're like oh shit right i'm gonna just a different part of earth i'm so unfamiliar with

how this very specific landmass affects fucking everything like i think it like it tastes it takes phosphorus back to the fucking amazon and the rainforest like it's truly this very nurturing thing where you know a shout out to africa taking care of the rest of the world again but yeah this whole thing now where like the scientists like baffled they're like uh it hasn't been this dense in like 60 years um and that's going to be interesting like all that particulate stuff on top of covid19 that's where it gets a little who knows like what kind of you know respiratory problems that could cause because again we're talking about particulate

matter in there so it won't fix everything because we need something now come on africa all we do is fix everything it does it does dampen or i guess the opposite of dampen, earthquake season because the earthquakes can't, the air can't get enough moisture because there's so much gas in it. Hurricane. Hurricane. Season. I said earthquake season. I like earthquake season. I was going to ask questions, but Miles had it.

But no, some people genuinely think earthquake season is a thing. And maybe it is. And maybe it is, man. And I just can't see quantum physics. But I'm from Seattle. So it's like anything that isn't rain is baffling to me. I don't know how weather works. Yeah.

I mean, this is yet another thing that for the aliens that are just watching the planet from on high, like they're probably just like, what the fuck is going on right now? Can y'all just calm? There's this giant dust cloud. There's the locust swarm that is like, you know, going, I think, west. Or no, it's going east from Africa up to Western Asia. or no it's going east from africa up to western asia and like i was reading about like what a locust swarm that hit the united states in the um i think it was late 19th early 20th century was like and it is it's like you were in a blizzard of but the blizzard is uh insects

and it's just like cover it like there's inches like your shoes are filled with insects that's wild um so anyway just to add to that i mean there's you know just massive fires in the arctic circle right now too that people like uh it's been uncharacteristically warm and now we just have wildfires burning up the arctic circle yeah guys we have a front row seat to the worst show in the universe yeah uh speaking of front row seat uh so i did just want to do this quick guessing game of uh what do you think the classic movie is that has topped the box office uh at like drive-thru movie theaters and i will just say that i think it i think it would be a fun movie to watch at a drive-thru.

I'm trying to think of what I've seen ads for. Because I know in LA, the older movies I've seen them advertise have been... One was E.T. and another was... Not like Pee Wee. It was another 80s movie. What decade is it from? 90s. Oh, 90s movie is number one. Oh, okay. I have a thought.

Yeah. Is it Independence Day? No. That's a good guess. What'd you say? Armageddon? No. The reason I think it's kind of appropriate is because a lot of the movie

takes place in a parked car or parked cars. Oh. Wait. Oh, the morning after? No. No. Is that real or is that a pill? I thought that that was an apocalypse movie.

That might be just a pill. The day after tomorrow, you mean? Oh, the day after tomorrow. Right, right. Oh, yeah, because they're kind of huddled up in cars freezing a lot of times. Wait, what? Okay, what is it? Jurassic Park.

Oh, yes! Oh, that's fair. Jaws is up there, too. But you were on the right track with Spielberg. Jaws, man. Jurassic Park, the number one movie in America last weekend.

It's like the number one theater. $517,000, but still. This feels like the thing in my mind, I thought like a solar flash, magnetic, wiping out the Earth's electronics. And I'm'm like that's why i have all the albums i will ever want to listen to on vinyl where i will never rely on the cd i can always have this shit on i don't give a fuck there can be no electricity i can hand crank

that shit and put my ear near the needle and i can still hear j dilla so there's shit like that where like this feels like that world where our technology has ceased. So then all we can do is just completely go retrospective now with all the media we consume. And it's like, all right, yeah. Get ready for the re-release of BAPS. All right.

But act like you wouldn't see BAPS in a drive-thru theater. Oh, I saw BAPS in the theater. Okay. And I know i have that ticket stub somewhere i saw it at the amc north six whatever happened to the short chubby one it's fine we'll talk about this out there yeah justice for the short chubby one but the the top 10 is jurassic park jaws at number two then the invisible man so there's

like some newer movies trolls world tours World Tour at number four. The Hunt, which is I think a... A24 movie, I think, that was like not... No one cared. The controversy was more than the movie was worth. Oh, that's right. That's right. It was either A24 or Blumhouse and I don't remember.

I think it was both, maybe. Then Back to the Future and then uh a new movie followed then et then jumanji then the goonies it's like my favorite movies well a lot of yeah a lot of them were released kind of around vaguely this week um so i think a lot of people are like well it's not necessarily an anniversary that you care about, but it's right. Cause I think back to the future was released around 25 to 35 years ago. That makes sense. On like the first, I don't know,

man, you can't quote me. But I think it was released like, like there it's close enough to an anniversary where things are like, it's back to the future, man, we'll just do it. Who cares?

And also, yeah, it's like good marketing from the drive, the drive-ins because Jack, for that exact reason, you're like, Oh, I love that movie. Guess what? You're the dad driving the kids to the drive yeah you know what i mean so if you can bait the parents like because it's also funny like we're now we're in that phase where i remember like movies like my parents like oh you're gonna love this i used

to love though if i loved it you're gonna love this one and i'm like what the fuck andromeda strain is bullshit bro like i don't like this shit like i was too young i was too young is what i'm saying uh or like thunder he's like oh man this james bond i'm like this is old as shit bro this looks dumb as fuck to me but i remember that excitement of like a parent trying to be like you're gonna like this and be like trying to get you excited about the thing that they're excited about yeah i'm like put yeah so what do you do? I never could get into the old James Bond movies. I get it.

Yeah. That's a good question. Cause I don't drive. So what do I just like pay an Uber driver to hang out with me for, Oh God, do I know, do I have to date so I can go see movies now? Wow.

Hey, you're sitting, you're sitting on a genius rom-com script that Lifetime will probably buy immediately. Me, cute. I wonder if you could just ride your bike up. Because it's still okay. If people are getting gone out the paint for trying to get through a drive-thru for Wendy's, I'm not doing it.

You know what I mean? I'm not. But yeah, so this is like, I haven's. I'm not doing it for... You know what I mean? Like, I'm not... But yeah, so this is like... I haven't... I'm single during Cork War. I don't... And I don't have a car. Okay, so, you know, hop in.

People offer rides at the very least. You want to borrow a car? Okay, see, date in the front, me in the back, the way God intended. It's a date mullet. Date mullet exactly um all right well danielle this has been uh lovely having you back on the daily zeitgeist where can people find you and follow you um uh if you want to find me you can find me at at Dania Radford on Twitter. You can also, weirdly, someone let me

help on a TV show called The Great Debate. It's on SyFy. I was one of the writers, and I am also the voice of Baron's robot sidekick, DB8. So, you can go check that out. I swear, I am

usually, if you listen to any other podcast or anything I've ever done, I'm not usually this like, fuck everything, the world sucks. It did at the time, but I was just more positive about it. Well, we just need people to speak their truths, you know?

Speaking my truth. But yeah, so. I think, yeah. Yeah, if you guys want to find me, those are the places. But mostly watch The Great Debate because I would really like season 2 because I'm actually really proud of it and I think that we did

it's a really fun thing about nerd debate topic panel stuff writer voice money baron and you have cred though too so we like you yeah

I'm always happy to be back, man. I love doing the show. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Ooh, let me look. Because I favorited some stuff in anticipation. Oh, here it is.

Here's my favorite tweet of the last day. Rudy Giuliani tweeted, wake up. Black Lives Matter wants to destroy law enforcement and bail, empty the prisons, including drug dealers as well as users, provide themselves with reparations and a full time government income without the necessity of work. Guys, I think that Rudy Giuliani is... Salute. I think he just joined the revolution.

Miles, where can people find you, and what's a tweet you've been enjoying? Twitter, Instagram, PlayStation Network, Miles of Grey. If you like 90 Day Fiance out for 20 day fiance uh where i talk about that show with sophia alexandra um some tweets that i really am liking let's see uh first one is at from at farrah brooke says sorry honey but you're a phase four friend as things reopen because i think you realize like some people you know you trust you've you've been like you've done maybe like a quick social distance hang with and other people like no no no that i'm gonna pretend like the pandemic's still real bad uh when you text me um and then

there's another one is from at ain't shit junior it says i'm officially off the market i'm still single i'm just giving up right oh and actually one the other one i really liked i'm just going through my list is actually from danielle because i am a huge fan of the aurora monroe okay storm oh buddy and and i believe this is from i know the earliest depictions of storm she had a mohawk right that's like from her early early like in the 70s didn't she have a mohawk it's a i will not i will talk about this for half an hour but this was a aurora was having an awakening where she decided she wanted to be more of a person and less of a goddess oh i love it so there's just a photo of her in her i love i just i i stand storm so hard uh but then with this picture she says hello kitten my apologies for being late and then

danielle puts late at night when all the world is sleeping i stay up and think of you and anyone who is a fan of selena and storm that's the fucking venn diagram for you tweet right there so shout out to pansexual chocolate at danielle thank you uh mohawk storm will forever be my sexuality uh i just uh but yeah just really quickly so it was the moment where storm was like i was always depicted as a goddess but that's really weird and now i just want to be one of the people and i learned to stab stab stab warlocks anyway it's it's and i can talk about it at length mohawk Storm. Bridget Todd at Bridget Marie tweeted, unmuting Zoom to fake laugh. Oh, my God.

Oh, I feel that in my heart. Oh, shit. It's real. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at The Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes

and our footnotes where we link up the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we ride out on. Miles, what are we riding out on today? This is a track with some odd meter.

It's going between, I don't know the key signature. I feel like at times it's in 4-4 and then times it'll go into 7. But look, that's up for all the rhythm nerds out there who like it. It's a really, despite the odd meter, it has a really great beat. And this sort of disembodied, synthesized voice. The track is called old bone and it's the jimmy stack remix um and it's by an artist wet but it's just got like i don't know it just feels again i'm like the aesthetic that it feels like is like if you're feeling good in

like a dystopian future world so there's like there's funky elements to it but there's also some nice stuff in there that gets your toe tapping. Well, The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's going to do it for this morning's episode. We'll be back this afternoon to tell you what's trending, and we'll talk to you then. Bye. Bye. Bye. talk to you then bye bye They know something from me Their eyes are feeding

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