The Daily Zeitgeist - Etiquette For Modern Life, Romney Snaps On’em 02.09.23

Episode Date: February 9, 2023

In episode 1419, Jack and guest co-host Andrew Ti are joined by writer, public defender, political commentator, and host of The Leftist Mafia, Olayemi Olurin, to discuss… Trump Comes Home to Roost f...or Republicans, The "Rules" (aka Etiquette), Romney Calls Santos A “Sick Puppy” At State Of The Union and more! Trump Comes Home to Roost for Republicans The "Rules" (aka Etiquette) Romney Calls Santos A “Sick Puppy” At State Of The Union 9/11 activist blasts George Santos for taking survivor to State of the Union after ‘lies’: ‘Piece of s***’ Inside the tense exchange between Romney and Santos. Mitt Romney Confronts 'Sick Puppy' George Santos at State of the Union: 'You Don't Belong Here' LISTEN: This Changes Everything (feat. Buddy, Denzel Curry, Terrace Martin, and James Poyser) by Robert GlasperSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:36 production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness, and it is Thursday, February 9th, 2023. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Oh No, We're Gonna Discord To Potatoes Avenue, because it's got Jack O'Brien. That is courtesy of La Caroni on the Discord. I am lurking on the Discord under a pseudonym that nobody will ever be able to figure out jack from the daily zeitgeist all caps so uh thank you thank you all for being there for
Starting point is 00:02:14 sending aka's on the discord for just keeping that community alive it's very cool i'm thrilled and i'm thrilled to be joined by today's very special guest co-host one of the very faces on mount zeitmore a hilarious and brilliant producer and tv writer you know him from yo is this racist it's andrew t i am not 500 miles and i am not 500 more. That's all I got. It took me way too long to come up with that. I'm out of breath. You're not even one mile. You're Andrew T. Yeah, couldn't do it. Couldn't do it. But I'm here. Thanks for having me. Hey, we're thrilled to have you. You were on last week telling us about a live show. The live show happened. I hear it was a resounding success.
Starting point is 00:03:06 show the live show happened uh yeah here was a resounding success it was it was really fun we were in um up in san francisco for sf sketch fest did a live show that was uh yeah really really fun the only downside was because la has melted my brain i only packed sandals to san francisco in february uh which was one of the stupidest things anyone's ever done. But I'm alive. And yeah, that's what people are supposed to do when they travel to LA from the Midwest. Yeah. In February,
Starting point is 00:03:34 but not, not someone from LA. It was ridiculous. Yeah. So I'm lucky to be alive, but I'm, I'm back. But there are just some people who like always have the same,
Starting point is 00:03:44 they always just dress like it, like it's a beach day. Yeah. In LA, even when it's in the 50s. I knew, but it was too late. I got to LAX and I was like, hold up, I don't have toes on my shoes. You didn't do a little shoe shopping at LAX? I guess I could have.
Starting point is 00:04:02 That actually probably is what I should have done. Well, Andrew, we're both lucky to be here for the return of one of the all-time favorite first guest appearances from any guest on the Daily Zeitgeist. She's a public defender with Legal Aid New York, a writer who you've read on Teen Vogue, a commentator for the Law and Crime Network, and a contributor to The Hill. Please welcome back to the show, the brilliant and talented Aliyah Mee O'Reilly! Hey, y'all. I don't have a special little intro like y'all, but I will say my bio has improved since the last time you read it.
Starting point is 00:04:42 I was listening to it just now and I was like, ooh, I've leveled up. All this stuff is outdated. All right. Hit me. Let us know. What did we miss? You know, I usually just say movement lawyer and political commentator now to catch it all. But I've been on like the Breakfast Club and stuff since.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I've been doing stuff. I have my own show, Laugh This Mafia. You know, I'm doing things. There you go. There you go. Okay. It's nice when you can consolidate like like the intro is just like swoop into one bucket higher i just found myself
Starting point is 00:05:10 a loud mouth now because that covers everything right like yeah yeah amazing well that's great how how has your busy life been since you were on i i'm assuming all these big breaks came from your appearance on the daily zeitgeist yes y'all did so much for me. I actually did reshare this the other day because people thought I was joking when I brought up. Y'all know I stay on Pop-Up Girls' agenda. I was like, I'm not kidding. I made this case before. I had to link to it.
Starting point is 00:05:35 I was like, I'm telling you, it was real. Yeah. And Winnie the Pooh, you know. Yeah. Also. I since got me an ER1Z, by the way. Did you really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:43 I have a full ER1Z. I was going to wear it for y'all. Amazing. Yeah. All right. Well, Alain, we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we are talking about today. Trump's coming home to roost for Republicans a little bit. He's accusing Ron DeSantis, or Ron DeSanctimonious, as he calls him, of grooming high school students. So that's just, I don't know. It's fun to be back in this moment where they're like, fuck, oh no, what have we done? I don't know. It feels like it's going to be a nice, there's going to be a nice batch of fascist on fascist crime yes violence predator versus predator predator yeah exactly whoever wins i mean we all lose but so does one of them and the other one's going to get hurt a little bit so we'll talk about that we'll talk about the new york magazine's uh list of updated like etiquette rules that came out in their print edition. You can find them online if you want to pay. So I just, I don't know, they're fun to debate. So I wanted to bring
Starting point is 00:06:53 a couple of those to our esteemed guests. And I'm a heathen and a bird because I don't even know what the old etiquette rules are. You said updated and I was like, etiquette?'s yeah it's i think comes from an assumption that we don't know what what the old etiquette like what direction what direction the forks are supposed to be and shit like that but this is more like text message etiquette and and things like that text message etiquette is that really in there because if so i'm i'm living a foul i don't know oh that's good it's stuff like it's very like someone was like what are the what are the what's the do etiquette.com like i hate when like you read something that's clearly by somebody who's like in the throes of having been ghosted like the only person who wrote that like you know what i mean like
Starting point is 00:07:40 only person would come up with that and somebody's home like, why is our generation act like this? This is so unkind. You know, the minute you said text messaging etiquette, I said, that's somebody who don't get text back. I already know. The ghosting one is just if you ghost someone, stay ghosted forever, which I kind of think is fun. Adds a little mystery, a little game to the process of ghosting someone. Yeah, well, maybe they're not a ghost then maybe that's what they're trying to say maybe they just don't live here they travel
Starting point is 00:08:09 you know what i'm saying like there you go we're going to talk about the state of the union the romney again just republican on republican violence that you you hate to see it folks mitt romney came with the sick you know their knives were sharpened and he called George Santos a sick puppy at the state of the union. So we'll talk about that. We might even get to a knock at the cabin, the number one movie in America right now, M night Shyamalan's new horror movie, knock at the cabin in which we won't spoil it, but it does seem to have a somewhat positive spin on doomsday prepper right-wing people a little bit. They're not the heroes by any means, but they're right about some stuff, which I always am a little unnerved by. That's the premise of your thing.
Starting point is 00:09:01 What if the right-wing crazy people are right? That's the new zeitgeist because that was that last of us episode too i haven't watched the last last of us still it's but that has some of that yeah yeah the the much lauded episode three it basically it only is able to kick off because one of the characters is like an actual doomsday prepper nice yeah yeah we were noticing at a like a hallmark rom-com that was number one on Netflix a while back. And the guy, the love, the male love interest played by Josh Duhamel was just a QAnon, like straight up. They just, they just did a control alt delete for all like QAnon. And other than that, like just the word QAnon, everything else that was like doomsday prepper hated the city, like had conspiratorial thinking about the government. So yeah, I feel like Hollywood is like, we see out there. We're not allowed to say we
Starting point is 00:09:55 agree with you, but we see you folks. Yeah. Big, big wink. Yeah. Big wink. That is one of the, wink yeah big wink that is one of the one of the new rules for etiquette is just always wink i'm ready to talk about the etiquette rules i know like i feel like i could just talk about these for the next three weeks like there's so many of them too there's so many of them also it opens with this etiquette rule like when your friend publishes a book you don't have to read it oh that's some bullshit that is some bullshit and it's also like such so specific you know what actually you know it's crazy i have the nerve i'm so let me tell you what it is to be selfish right i i scream that for my own future self who's gonna write a book and need my friends to read it but the minute i expressed my outrage immediately in my mind was highlighted my friend i know that i've never your bookshelf is literally
Starting point is 00:10:50 right behind you i was like we could see her we could see her lies on the zoom yes i can literally the minute the minute i heard it i was like wait a minute never read that and and not only did i not read it but i sent the lie like oh ooh, I'm about to get into this right now. We'll talk about all of that plenty more. But first, Aliyah, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Ebony Magazine. I was trying to figure out how to get a subscription after they put out Jonathan Mays. I was like, no, I gotta, I have to support this kind of craftsmanship.
Starting point is 00:11:28 My favorite tweet. Somebody put, um, somebody tweeted I'm giggling because I know that Ebony magazine people was setting up this photo shoot. Like, Ooh, the hose gone.
Starting point is 00:11:37 Love it. It's me. I want you to know, I say it's every picture. I'm going to know, I save every picture. I'm going to commission somebody to paint one of them. Like, let me tell you something. I have never seen nothing. I've never seen Creed 1 or 2.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I don't know what it's about, but I'm damn sure I've seen Creed 3. I'm telling you that. I'm going to be in the theater on day one, okay? Like, the nice theater two in the front with a pod. So that's what I'm saying. Private time, but with everyone. They got to sell high-res prints of that. They would make bank.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Just like $50 for a high brand. See, listen. In the comments, because he looks so... He does. Looks good as hell for no reason. There's no reason for that man to be that fine. You know what I know? Listen. I know he's fine when i started i started cape and femme but somebody was like
Starting point is 00:12:29 you know the the black community tend to to not love black women when they see a black man that's a black actor we love this with a white woman and usually that'll get you canceled right so i post my i post my jonathan major just goes oh look how fine he is here comes somebody like, he don't even like white girls, sis. Let me tell you something. I put on the cape for interracial dating. Just to defend him. I'm like, if you let me rest in peace. I was like, go out to the NBA and read Jonathan Majors alone.
Starting point is 00:12:58 He's so fine he made you compromise core principles. 100%. Listen, I switched up. I authored Lo versus virginia the minute has this been a long-term thing is it just a culmination or you're just you've just when did when did you fall in love i'm a bird right i can't even tell you whenever the last magazine shoot was when i saw him i don't even i haven't i haven't watched lovecraft country but i will uh i haven't seen most of his things i think the only thing i've seen him in was the heart of a fall and you know
Starting point is 00:13:34 what he was fine in that too i must say the man don't miss i i'm gonna go support his great so serious let me tell you how much I want to support how fine he is. Right. I looked at all the pictures. I'd already seen them on Twitter on Ebony, but I was like, I want to incentivize Ebony to do this kind of work and visit the career for them to put them in photos.
Starting point is 00:13:56 So I'm going to go to the website. I'm going to Google. I'm going on Ebony so they can see, look at traffic. And I'm going to specifically look at everything. Jonathan majors related. I was see, look at traffic. And I'm going to specifically look at everything Jonathan Majors related. I was like, yes, yes. I want to encourage people to bring this mind into
Starting point is 00:14:09 their photo shoots. Yes. And more importantly, listeners do the same. It's about volume. Get it going. Yes, you get it. I'm trying to get Ebony all the awards and accolades they need. Okay? I feel like we're learning in this episode. Magazines. Still out here. Still doing it. Go out and buyolades they need. Okay. Yeah. I feel like we're learning in this episode, magazines still out here,
Starting point is 00:14:26 still doing it, you know, go out and buy the magazine. Yeah. What's something you think is overrated? Either. I put a list. So it's either Harry Styles,
Starting point is 00:14:34 finding Nemo, or once y'all were talking at all zombie content. So y'all can pick which one. Okay. I want to hear about all of that. I mean, Harry Styles, I think is pretty,
Starting point is 00:14:44 I think we get that one, right? I, I am had no beef. I want to hear about all of that. I mean, Harry Styles, I think is pretty, I think we get that one, right? I am had no beef. I want to be clear that that young man has never crossed my mind in my entire black ass life. Not one time had I thought about Harry Styles, but it only took a few nights ago for him to become my number one enemy. I have to now retroactively go back and hate because I, listen, I, the disrespect, yo, I, I'm not even going to get started. The kind of beehive member I am. I'm surprised y'all ain't hearing me hit the ground from like,
Starting point is 00:15:13 Oh, listen, when, listen, I knew the minute Trevor Noah, cause he knew better. I wouldn't know. We're not talking about that enough,
Starting point is 00:15:21 but let's respect him. Trevor Noah knew the black community was not going to let him say something that wasn't Beyonce. So the minute he walked over to that white woman to ask her to say it i was like oh no i didn't i didn't see it but that's an amazing move by him to be like you want to take this literally you walked over and he's like hey you want to say this in a minute i was like what's going on what's going on what's going on i was like oh white lady and i you know what you know it's crazy i was prepared a little bit like if they had said bad bunny i want you to understand i would be i would be talking shit like not not the same way but in my home i'd be talking mad shit but not online in the same way because i would understand i can't intellectually defend it from the same position i get it global, undeniable. Yes, yes. Highest grossing tool. I can't deny these stats. But Harry
Starting point is 00:16:06 Styles? It's just such an industry award where it's just like the music industry rewarding itself. The people that they want to be like, look what we built. And when my man said, did you hear the speech he said?
Starting point is 00:16:22 He said, things like this don't happen to people like me incredible he said that and I was like if I jump through this computer and tackle this child's life I am furious I was like
Starting point is 00:16:37 I know you're not saying that look at Beyonce and her black ass face it's like literally every phrase of that sentence needs to be interrogated. What do you mean by things like this? They were trying to defend that, you know. They're like, oh, he means because he was
Starting point is 00:16:54 poor. I was like, oh. I was like, oh, poor white man. But even that is bullshit. Anyone who grew up poor doesn't have Grammys. That's crazy. Yeah. Like there's never been a poor white guy.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Ooh. Yeah. Yeah. You showed it. Get it on the mud, Harry. Okay. Yeah. So him, I'm now officially a Harry Styles hater.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Whatever. Finding Nemo, you're out on. Yeah. So a hundred percent. I've been a Finding nemo hater since day one like as a child it was one of the first movies like it wasn't the first time i walked out of a theater that was osmosis jones um i like that you're a young person just walking out of movies listen you know i remember i was i was trapped i would have walked out what happened
Starting point is 00:17:44 was you know i have i have five siblings and my parents they were tired of us and they sent us to the movie theater all day they thought it was like a full set of tickets so it was like Lilo and Stitch, Finding Nemo all these things were out I get to Finding Nemo and I'm like what is this incredibly stressful movie and I have felt that way every day
Starting point is 00:18:00 that is the most stressful film it's so dark the way it opens, shit like the anxiety is not flared up i'm like okay so his mama dad he's disabled his daddy is a single daddy struggling his daddy he don't listen first and foremost i never liked his little ass right don't listen i can't stand him though his daddy gave that man one instruction. No, don't go there. Don't go there. He can go. He's tapping his little one fin up there.
Starting point is 00:18:28 Now your daddy has to be stressed out for the entire film. Because now you stuck in a pet shop. And your daddy's only... What do they give him as a companion? As comic relief? A fish with dementia. I've never... I've never...
Starting point is 00:18:43 Dory breaks my... That is the most stressful and you know what you know what upset me that's what i don't like about the gaslighting the pixar whoever's responsible because i'm like how is this not incredibly depressing and tragic to people why does nobody but me see this they love dory like this is cute i'm like you all not stressed out this outside but then they had the nerve to come up with finding dory and i never i didn't finish it because i didn't make it past the first five, ten minutes. It's admirable you put it on, honestly.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Even starting it shows you're a big person. I was like, so terribly traumatic, sad backstory to explain why Fish has dementia. Almost like you know it's tragic and sad that Fish has dementia. Why am I watching this? why am i watching this why am i watching this so finding nemo and terrible i don't know why people like that i don't know if people are sick it's not even like a musical i don't even understand it like i don't understand why my generation clung to it the way they did it's not like it like lion king and all these other people have soundtracks the little mermaid soundtracks finding nemo has nothing but a lost fish a single daddy and a fish with dementia
Starting point is 00:19:46 i i feel like a pixar has like a whiteboard that's just like the like a pool going for who can get the most depressing shit into a children's movie right yeah just whimsy and they're just ramping it up each time y'all see it up y'all see it up? Y'all see it up then? I just saw the opening thing and I was like, I can't. Yeah, the opening where Upway lose his wife.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Him and his wife are together in love. They couldn't have kids. They can't have kids. Yeah, you like cry three different times in the first five minutes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I'm like, why is this like this? Yeah, so that. And then all zombie content. I'm saying for the same reasons. I don't understand the appeal. Vampires I get. Werewolves less so I don't understand the appeal. Vampires, I get.
Starting point is 00:20:25 Werewolves, less so. Mermaids make sense. Zombies? What about dead, decaying people doing feet? Why do you want to see a bunch of Viserys walking around the place? What is this movie all about? I will say, the one thing that I finally watched the last of us show this weekend. And what I will say is it is actually really mercifully light on actual zombies on the screen.
Starting point is 00:20:50 That thing that I was like, Oh, this is, it's like it better than the game, which is just like all fucking zombies all the time. Not all, but it's like, it's good in that regard.
Starting point is 00:21:00 But then in the same vein, I think that's the whole point. I think that's the whole point of zombie content is it's not the zombies it is an excuse like they are the most unobtrusive easy to evade like yeah monster but the whole thing is that society has crumbled and people are like dying to live in a world where society is crumbled and so and i also keep coming up with zombie content after covid is crazy people would kill themselves we won't even people don't want to wear masks you think people was doing combat out here and fighting the surviving zombies what do you even
Starting point is 00:21:36 what do you even fight the lips for why do you want to why do you want to do this you want to be in a zombie world the minute they tell me if they come and tell me there's zombies running the streets and the zombies looking for you, I'm just going to, I'm just going to end it. I'm going to take myself out the game. I'm not letting zombies. What? And I got to be around here. And also, I don't like the way the zombies have to work. Why in everything zombie related?
Starting point is 00:21:59 No, for real. Why zombies don't ever be dead zombies and just be chilling? Why do zombies have to be like like working for the night the walking dead you know what i'm saying like why is it like that why are they trying to why are they trying to recruit they don't even have agenda what's the what's the purpose so what they do yeah just hungry yeah yes my the the the dating apps have started to do dumb shit like making you answer like quirky questions uh and my favorite one that i've ever personally answered is like what is your zombie apocalypse plan and it's like my plan is to
Starting point is 00:22:30 keep eating people's brains until someone kills me you would be a zombie you would willfully i'd be a zombie right away i'm zombie from day one i'm like even before you got bit yeah i'm not even the one getting bit i'm like yeah i'll try that that fucking yeah y'all will go be a zombie not me i would i would honestly i would probably engage in mass destruction like no honestly i would like that's what yeah well i think that's what's fun that's what people like i think that's people like the yeah i didn't see zombie land but i feel like there's a part in that movie where they're riding dirt bikes through the White House or some shit. That's the dream that people have is just society falling down, no longer having to go to your job. And the whole idea that it's easier.
Starting point is 00:23:16 But having to spend your day running from zombies. Yeah, but the idea that it's easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism. I feel like it's, that's the only version of a world without capitalism that people can imagine. So they just go with that. They're like, this is better than the soul-sucking,
Starting point is 00:23:37 you know, soul-withering day-to-day grind. The more you talk, the more convinced I am that God needs to send a flood. Like, I'm listening and I'm like, well,
Starting point is 00:23:44 this is where we're at. It's out there i think it's like but it's it's also like a version of capitalism people can comprehend which i think it's like it's just like when your only job is to like run from these dudes and like get enough calories to survive one more day and that's it right like people can understand that competition oh of course yes don't get me wrong yesterday i was getting in my uber and i realized i left my key upstairs and i had to run up the stairs fast to get my key and run back down and i was in the uber fighting for my life like trying to breathe like stressed out i was like this isn't how life is supposed to be me being rushed like this this little run with a lot on me. You're talking everyday obstacle course
Starting point is 00:24:26 and zombies that are expanding their army and getting faster every day. People that want zombie apocalypse are like CrossFit people. They're just like, this would be fun. I could do a lot of pull-ups. I think it's just the idea of like a walkable city, like a walkable suburbs is so outlandish to people that like that's what they need to
Starting point is 00:24:47 invent to make it possible they're just like man could you imagine just being able to walk down the middle of the street that would be that'd be amazing it's like man that was that was you know 70 years ago people could do that so depressing all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jamee Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed?
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Starting point is 00:27:24 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
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Starting point is 00:28:04 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And Aliyah Me, we also like to ask our guests what something is that you think is underrated drew barrymore yes i know people i know people love drew barrymore but i i think she doesn't get even enough enough views i think drew barrymore is a pretty wholesome top tier white lady like i thought about this because i used to love drew barrymore as a kid drew barrymore was my favorite my favorite actress because i noticed this i noticed all white actors and actresses that i have an affinity for were grandfathered into me by some family member.
Starting point is 00:28:47 Like everybody has, yeah, like everybody has one. Like my mama likes Vince Vaughn, so I like Vince Vaughn, you know? And I'm like, Drew Barrymore is mine. And then as I got older, you know, I changed all my like favorite lists. All my things have been blackified. But I noticed the other day, I was like, oh, I said to someone, oh, my favorite actress as a kid was Drew Barrymore. And I was like, you know what? That age, well, my favorite actress as a kid was Drew Barrymore. And I was like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:29:05 That age, well, she has not ashamed me. She has not disappointed me. She is here being wholesome. She has a show now. And so she has even more opportunity to be problematic if she weren't. She's not ever messed up. We don't give Drew Barrymore. She has a long longevity of never being
Starting point is 00:29:21 canceled. So Barrymore, you can't think of... She's put in her 10,000 hours of being a rich white person and not doing something offensive yes no seriously that's an actual compliment she's been around dumb long
Starting point is 00:29:38 I'm like you know what if you've been rich and white that long and you still haven't gotten cancelled I think you might just be a good person. That's what I'm saying. She came into the game. Like, she came into fame. She's so good.
Starting point is 00:29:51 Even the other day when all the white people were getting lit up because they were responding to the NEPO baby accusations poorly. And she was just like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, this is an excellent white lady okay she answers she's so good i was like look at that just off the top of the dome she didn't even need pr for that she was just so jubilee moore that's my underrated have you seen the clip of her uh discovering it's raining outside and just going out into the rain i highly recommend that yeah she's just so i don't know it's
Starting point is 00:30:26 like you're watching a sci-fi movie where it's raining for the first time on earth and like they've only read it like thousands of years ago it used to rain and this is the first time because she's so cute and wholesome she's somebody whose business i want to be in you know what if you never got any um you remember back back back in the day, she used to date Justin long for the longest. Y'all remember that? All right. And yeah, and they did the movie going the distance.
Starting point is 00:30:50 They even started like, you know, they had a little company together and then just suddenly after super mad long, they just broke up and was suddenly with different partners and people moved on. And I have never gotten closure. Justice answers. I'm like, what,
Starting point is 00:31:03 what is this? I think about it all the time every time i see drew barbine good i'd be like justin yeah what are you doing and i see him like married and happy but i don't care yeah you want to know i want to know like you don't you don't like that was your woman for a long time. You're not going to explain this to me? Yeah. We'll find it out. I should say, as with all podcast white praise,
Starting point is 00:31:32 the asterisk here is as far as we know for everything that was just said. Somebody can't wait to be like, actually, in 87, she stomped a squirrel. Like, okay, alright. I mean, the darkness darkness the depths of darkness that she went through because she was like a you know she was done at age i don't know some
Starting point is 00:31:54 possible young age like just had already like been to rehab for cocaine so like she's just you know yeah unbeatable as far as we know undefeatable and she looks and she looks she's a she's a cutie she looks normal right like looks great like just like regular standard i'm like look at that drew just go ahead every time i see i saw you saw painting mgk's nails did y'all see that i didn't Yeah, she had MGK on her show and she was painting his nail polish. I was like, go ahead, Drew. Just be wholesome and cute. They gave her a show just to be wholesome.
Starting point is 00:32:31 Drew Barry, I could get behind an America's Sweetheart for Drew Barrymore. I could get behind that. I wouldn't object. I'd let y'all get that off. I could definitely see her having a long film renaissance. My favorite genre of movie when I was growing up was bruce willis movie and like i feel like any drew barrymore movie is its own genre of movie you know yeah it's taken over by drew barrymore energy and i feel like
Starting point is 00:32:58 people might be in the market for a little bit more of that at some yes all right let's i mean the the trump coming home to roost for Republicans, I don't have too much more than what I already said. It's just, we're kind of back where they were in 2016 midterms when, you know, they had what they thought was a safer bet in Jeb Bush. And then Trump just, you know, doesn't play by the same rules. I forgot about Jeb Bush. They took that seriously.
Starting point is 00:33:25 That was ever a thing they took seriously. So did everyone. Please clap. Yes, I feel like I do not remember anyone taking Jeb seriously. I will say this. I think there is a little bit, yeah, some of the glee that we're kind of feeling, but I feel like a lot of people on Twitter are feeling too much.
Starting point is 00:33:41 None of this is really going to stick. So, like, it's a chuck chuckle but it's not a like oh yeah they're gonna change this is gonna change everything it's sure no yeah no the scientists i think the scientists and i've said this i'm on record i've been said the scientist was the demon to watch um and i and i i think he's gonna be i i think he's a formidable opponent i put my money on the scientists honestly i think the scientists is yeah i think he's a scarier. I put my money on DeSantis, honestly. I think DeSantis is a scarier demon. I think he's going to be worse than Trump.
Starting point is 00:34:11 He's definitely the scary. It's like Umbridge. You know what I mean? You thought Snape was stressing you out in that class, and then Umbridge took over Hogwarts. That's how I feel. Well, fight the fascists any way you can asterisk don't do anything illegal
Starting point is 00:34:27 asterisk asterisk wink asterisk i didn't say that i didn't wink i do feel like this story though i don't know that desantis hasn't said anything in response but like i feel like it's a good early indicator of like what the what that you know yeah showdown is gonna look like with trump just like retweeting things from you know the depths of q anon and desantis just being like i will not dignify this but that i don't know if that works in politics to not dig i don't believe i don't think Republicans, like, the problem with Republicans is they can only hurt each other with, like, bigotry. The only reason they were able to get Madison
Starting point is 00:35:09 Garth on out of there is because they weaponized homophobia, right? That's the only reason. I don't think there's been too many Trump-hims. First of all, Trump, this is the fuck calling the cattle deemed. Like, look at Trump's accusations. Trump got a rock cheek, baby. He all got his act together. Trump has done all kind of stuff in plain sight and they good with that
Starting point is 00:35:26 and listen they was ready to literally they stormed the capital of Africa so even if I'm like yeah Trump you could throw all that stuff out about the scientists but like let's not act like Republicans care like Hershel Walker just barely lost and he's a whole buffoon and a hypocrite on record
Starting point is 00:35:42 his own children don't like him like his own son had to come out like, hey, actually, this man's terrible. Awful. Awful. And he's still, he only narrowly lost. Hershel Walker barely knows where he is. And he just narrowly lost. So I think he can say whatever he wants about the Sanders.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I think they'll be in phase. Pretending Republican voters give a shit about anything like that is like as long as the end result is going to be you know more racist more homophobic more transphobic they don't care they don't care exactly they're like okay so he's a d they hear that and they're like oh so he got away with it that's the kind of demon i need to charge all right oh grim let's move on to the segment we've all been waiting for new york magazine released what what they're calling a list of updated rules they would have clearly called it new rules if bill maher hadn't ruined that or you might be an asshole if if jeff foxworthy hadn ruined that, but it is very much just in that straightforward stand-up comedy,
Starting point is 00:36:48 observational comedy, but I don't know. I read it and I couldn't stop reading it and being like, well, actually. Alright, so I'm just going to run through a couple, and I'm going to be doing this on shows until I say otherwise. This is the content machine they knew that they were yeah absolutely yes so one that jumped out to me never tell anyone who they look like what no i have to do that i tell people and not who but what as a matter of fact i tweeted out harry salesman to get his bug face off of my screen but that's that's with intention i they're talking about like this is supposed to be a
Starting point is 00:37:30 compliment and it's always the ugliest mother like people who are like known for famous and we have to do that we still have to do that i don't like it people have done that to me and i but you still have to do it that's that's a must society needs that people need to be aware it's such a powerful thing though because it's like to to find like somebody once told me i looked like walton goggins who is you know he's just like a comedic actor but like not he's not like a heartthrob or anything that's also like not accurate it was like yeah it's so weird i think i had like a weird and they had a lot of options for you and she was white i know I had like a weird haircut at the time. They had a lot of options for you. And she was white.
Starting point is 00:38:06 I know. You had on like a 12-inch hat. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, exactly. Like, it's so wild. There's a forehead on this man. It's also so powerful. Yeah, he has a massive forehead.
Starting point is 00:38:18 You know what's crazy? I was just thinking that my friends were just, we were just debating the worthiness of forehead reduction surgery. Have you seen that? That people do enough illusion? Is that a thing? It's just like hair. They bring your hair.
Starting point is 00:38:30 No, bro. Yeah, it's crazy. It's like, it looks anyway, child. And I'm like,
Starting point is 00:38:34 bro, just live with it. Foreheads, big foreheads. Like that's okay. You know, regular five, but this head right here.
Starting point is 00:38:39 Right. I must say I've changed my position. I understand. I get it. Yeah've changed my position. I understand. I get it. Tasteful adjustment. I had some motherfucker in New York when I was in my 20s follow me around a bar for an entire night yelling that
Starting point is 00:38:54 I was Rufio and not being able to accept that I wasn't literally quote-unquote Rufio. It was wild. From Hook? Oh! First of all, that is a compliment. First of all, that guy. quote unquote, Rufio. It was wild. From Hook? Oh!
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah. You know. That is a compliment. First of all, that guy, he's still fine to this day. No. Like,
Starting point is 00:39:13 I don't use it. That is true. We do. I am not like, I don't have it. Take that. I don't have it. Yeah. No,
Starting point is 00:39:19 you take that. It was just the, the, the guy yelling at my face. I was too much. He was trying to tell you he was hot, but ain't know how to say it it was at a different time that's all i was he was he was trying to tell you he was fine if somebody doesn't look like they wanted you all right people constantly tell my wife she looks like lucy lu and it's just always white people who've never like met an asian person before yeah that's the asianness of it that i
Starting point is 00:39:45 think got me i was just like come yeah that is messed up but it's never like i i suggest i would never do it i to somebody who i'm just like meeting and being like oh my god you know who you look like i would never do that but it's never not interesting to hear who other people like if somebody says that i'm i'm listening you know i'm not gonna cut them off i'm like okay yeah this is gonna be disappointing but i'm like it's one of the only times you get yeah you get to know like how other people perceive you you know because like that i'm completely oblivious to that you get yeah it is just like the rope you could absolutely give them like okay yeah
Starting point is 00:40:28 all right this is one i disagreed with don't describe tiktok it's more boring than describing dreams i don't talk about tiktok i'm old what they mean i don't but i need somebody to describe what's happening on tiktok to me and i need like i've gotten many a hearty laugh out of miles describing something that happened on tiktok like how am i a 42 year old man supposed to find out what's happening on tiktok other than somebody describing it to me i'm not gonna fucking hang out there producer becca ramos like i i will listen to her describe what's happening on tiktok to me constantly it really also that like is like such a thing where i'm like tiktok is almost the best visual ish medium to describe something because it's visual but it's not that visual like it's like almost always
Starting point is 00:41:25 cropped the same way just like oh they did a little dance or oh they wrote these words on the screen it's like the perfect visual medium to describe right yeah ridiculous yeah it's for children it's for children and chinese spies and i'm only one of those things all right a couple out i would put under the category of agree if someone mispronounces a word but you know what they mean move along like don't stop and correct them unless it's like so you know i do it of a family member yeah i do it for my friends because i'm like hey just so you know it's pronounced whatever a very close friend yes not in a casual conversation yeah yeah yeah red receipts are for medical emergencies only no red receipts are for disrespect as soon as i feel it in my spirit that i need to disrespect a man i might have a problem with him
Starting point is 00:42:19 like turn read receipts on before i'm walking i He's like, I want you to get this. I want your last message. I want you to know I seen it and blocked. And blocked. No, read receipts are there for disrespect. That, yeah. That's perfect. Yeah, if you haven't been doing that,
Starting point is 00:42:36 add it to your agenda. Wait, so you're putting a read receipt on a message you're sending? You can. I don't know if y'all know, right? You don't have to turn on your read receipts or on all your text messages. You can go on a message you're sending or you're no i don't know if y'all know right you don't have to turn on your read your read receipts or on all your text messages you can go on a person's conversation just turn it on in their chat wow okay yeah just to disrespect that one person this is now making me reevaluate actually a lot of my text message threads i have going on it's
Starting point is 00:43:01 like oh that's what people were doing. And they absolutely were. So the text message amnesty thing is interesting. So they said text message amnesty is granted after 72 hours. So basically, if you haven't responded to a thread after 72 hours, you don't have to go back and acknowledge the old text after 72 hours. I thought we knew that. Who was answering your text?
Starting point is 00:43:21 If I didn't answer it, I don't have to go on to... But then you can just start fresh again again with just right oh i mean yeah who has continuous conversation this person is young see i just i just burned that relationship i just i wish that was true for me but i just burned that relationship and go ghost protocol with that person i get a new number yeah oh i definitely did i changed my number on new year's day oh really a hundred percent new year new number yeah new me new number don't call me i don't know you here's what here's one big thing so i did not read all these because there's fucking how many 140 something of them it's so many i really because i felt like they got a lot of hate for this list or not a lot but a good amount of hate and i do wish and i i guess i'm not totally sure
Starting point is 00:44:11 it's not in here but i would have imagined it would have been either number one the first one or the last one they should just have a rule that's like don't be the kind of sanctimonious asshole who makes up a bunch of arbitrary like rules based rules and pretends that they're facts like that would have like like hung a lantern on this whole enterprise and made it so much funnier yes absolutely don't do any of this is the final rule but don't make these rules like always wink is one of them always wink always wink isn't that like why is there gonna be a pervert yeah yeah but it does just feel like that i felt like i picked up a thread where the don't describe tiktok it's more boring than describing dreams was written by the same person who wrote always wink it's like a 49
Starting point is 00:44:58 year old pervert who like it's just like mad the world is passing them by. Only perverts and Pippi LaPue wink at people, I said. That's all I'm going to do. Yeah. Sex pest Pippi LaPue. Yes, exactly. I got a stray wink from a parent, and it was startling. Yeah. I had to go home.
Starting point is 00:45:17 Yeah. She said it was startling. I stopped me in my tracks. The fuck just happened here? Why would you wink at me? Oh, man. I'm sorry, Jack. I know you're trying to save these, but I just randomly scrolled to one that I agree with a thousand percent.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Yes. Which is rule number 45. White people should always clearly pronounce 50 cent. He's not 50 for you. No. Yes. You know what? That one is absolutely correct. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:45:45 Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. That's right. Yeah. I support that. This one never asked someone about their nationality. If you want to know their ethnicity and you know what?
Starting point is 00:45:55 Yeah. Yes. But also like, why the fuck do you need to know their ethnicity?

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