The Daily Zeitgeist - EtTrendgermentum 11/4: Donald Trump, Kamala Harris, SNL, Election Day, Ettingermentum, Julia Roberts, Quincy Jones

Episode Date: November 4, 2024

In this edition of EtTrendgermentum, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, Kamala's surprise SNL appearance, all the last-minute polling and election news, Trump being disappointed in Julia Roberts, the passing of the legendary Quincy Jones and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On Halloween, so yeah, how was your Halloween? I haven't talked to you Halloween night. I dressed as Drew Barrymore from Scream. I had like I realized you pull that off. I've got the perfect. You got the blonde wig. Yeah, that's right. Big blonde wig.

Then you just need like a knit cream colored sweater. Yeah. And like blue jeans. OK. Yeah, great. I it was just like it was one of those things people were I was treated like some kind of weirdo the whole time walking around with the baby and we're trick or treating and people like, oh, hey, it was just oh, I don't know if you will just don't talk to each other. Like usually like, oh, cool costume. What are you? That feels like a thing.

People just say we're like, oh, costume. What are you? That feels like a thing people just say. We're like, oh, like what are you supposed to like? I'll ask because sometimes people put a lot of energy in it and I'm like, oh, I want to be up on it. Not a single person asked. A lot of people treated me like I was just stealing candy from my baby child. Very odd. And I was like, we need to just be able to ask. I don't want to wear a fucking label that says I am Drew Barrymore from Scream. Yeah. I think also I could have shaved my face. Yeah. So I did. I probably look like some kind of weird like Southeast Asian crypto criminal or something. Sure. I feel like if you had worn a sandwich board that said I am Drew Barrymore from Scream,

it would have really sold it. Yeah, I should have worn a sandwich board that said I am drew Barrymore from scream. It would have really sold it Yeah, I should have worn that sandwich board like Bruce Willis and yeah I keep telling you that I don't know why you're not taking my note on that Have it with like a switchblade stuck in the board from that one scene where the guy throws the knife at him Yeah, the and there we go. There's our requisite diehard 3 reference of the day Brian Brian did it this time Brian the editor is the guilty party. He said sandwich board. Yeah. Hey everyone, it's Jay Shetty and I am so excited to let you know that my latest podcast interview is with the one and only Tom Hanks. Tom rarely does long-form interviews so I was so grateful to have the time

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what was trending over the week, what was trending on Monday morning My name is Jack O'Brien that of course over there is miles Drew Barrymore from scream Bothered to ask what my costume was if you bothered to ask if you bothered to ask Drew Barrymore from screen. I do think the cordless phone, but those have to be kind of hard to find these days. I know my mom had my mom does not throw away old tech. Like if I need an old like I remember I needed a prop for a video once like years ago.

And we had two old IMAX at that in the garage. Nice. Like blueberry flavor back when the shit's. Had. Oh shit. Yeah. Yeah. That I'm talking about launch like launch iMac. Yeah. Fucking in the garage. One that looks like costume jewelry. Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

Um, all right. Well, uh, this is, uh, this is the day before the election. Hey, take your time tomorrow. Take your time. Take your time One thing comforting me they did a whole season of that show 24 and 24 hours So, you know you can fit a lot in before that's true. So just everybody calm down we got all right That tomorrow is gonna be bad tomorrow is gonna be Weird it's gonna be weird, but I don't know there's there's there's plenty to make weird. It's going to be weird. But I don't know.

There's plenty to make you feel good or bad. That's right. Depending on how you cut the news. All right. So this is the episode where we tell you what's trending. But first, we tell you some of the things that we think are underrated and overrated to let you get to know us a little bit better. We allow it. We allow you to get to know us a little bit better.

Miles, do you want to kick us off with something you think is underrated? Something underrated. Underrated Donald Trump Jr.'s eyes as a barometer for how well things are going in Trump world. Okay. Because this MF Doom this entire weekend has had, he's had the eyes of an anti-cocaine PSA. And I'm like, maybe maybe it's all right. Like this one there's like this one. I'm going to show you this one.

Jack, you tell me if this is the face of someone who's who's who's preparing for eventual Trump win. Here's here's Don Jr. on Saturday. Make them depend on their god. Don Jr. is Saturday. Oh my God, Don Jr. is so fucking high right now. Wait. Don't do drugs, kids. You'll look like this guy.

Holy shit. He looks like he has some manner of horrible eye infection or he is the highest anyone's ever been God and then Yesterday he's again because like we said plan a has not been to win this election for for Trump We've that's just been so clear from how everything's been going Plan a is to steal the election. And so this is Trump doing his little, you know, bit, his little contribution to keeping the people into believing that the election is going to be stolen without a doubt. And also with featuring the same weird high

eyes. Drag it out for. Oh yeah. You know what they're going to try to do. We've seen this playbook before, but this time we're prepared. Yeah, you can see he's like struggling to try to open his eyes. You don't give him a week. Look at that. Are his eyes closed? I think they're closed. And then like they're trying to like trying to get them

just like pry them open with his eyebrows. Yeah, yeah. It looks like someone trying to will themselves out of a coma or something. If it was possible to be like, I'm off this shit. God damn, I hope this is a barometer of anything beyond his own cocaine dependency. I feel like because also just again, you know, I don't know, I want to live in the reality where there's not another Trump presidency for sure. But yeah, I don't know.

It just feels like third act of like the movies or the bad guy just has to get so off their face to like just make it through. But anyway, that's my thing. I'm looking at that more than the polls. I go, we're using we're doing something to cope. I don't know what it is. But I mean, it also looks junior I pull. Yeah, look, you don't always need to take chemical accessories when times are bad. Sometimes people do that to do well. So it's you know, it could be either way. But for me, I choose to see this as a as a as an omen. Yeah, he seems like he's falling apart a little bit, but has seemed that way for a while.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But this is me. This is me how I'm I'm going to sleep. And I go, oh, he's fucked up. OK, they are most certainly not looking like an owl, homie. Looking more like, yeah, he spent too many hours like an owl. And now he's a streetlight. Yeah, his streetlight has been dimmed. All right. My underrated the way I'm dealing with the fact that the election is tomorrow. You could probably guess is birds.

It's the burbs. Oh, I discovered some videos of ravens speaking this weekend. I discovered something like a fucking explorer. I've miles dispatch from the depths of, you know, Twitter, Twitter, just being on Twitter for hours. No, I don't know. Like parrots are the bird we think of when we think of like being able to speak, say human words. They have a very, like everyone, everyone can do an imitation of what a parrot sounds like when they're talking.

They're like, yeah, you know, miles. Right. The election was stolen. But I like to listen. But I just want to play a couple highlights of a couple of videos of Ravens speaking because they sound like a fucking satanic tape recorder Okay

Let's start off with this clip that you've shared It's a raven on a shore of some kind of a lake What oh Hell no boy Who you call boy bro fuck Oh hell no boy It feels it it sounds like someone's saying something like in your ear like yeah, yeah Yeah, like right behind you it does creep. Did you watch you remember? Did you listen the other world that like six-part special that he did with the with the Scandinavian woman? I didn't get to the end of it.

No. Oh, but did you get to the part where like the aliens were talking through their throats and shit? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Has this this has this creepy sort of like nonhuman. Yeah. But human trying to communicate quality to it that, yeah, there's a human in there. Like imagine being like walking in the woods and hearing that shit in the trees. Oh yeah, that's immediate. Depending on the century, I'm like, oh, that's Satan. Yeah. And we have to repent.

Absolutely makes a lot of sense of people being terrified of the woods. Yeah. And terrified of birds. And then there's, there's another one where a woman is just like chilling with her pet raven and again, just like making all sorts of wild noises. They're apparently like great mimics of everything. Like it doesn't, you know, right. They're Winslow ask Winslow. Yeah, because don't they do? I've seen them like mimic like ambulance sirens and things like that, too

Exactly. Okay, so this is another one lady and Raven the hit new duo coming out of America Okay Hearing something in the woods that they can't see and they can't place. And it moves around in the dark. Oh. Hi. And the first thing that always comes to my mind is ravens, as Fable's just shown you. All COVID, so crows, rooks, magpies, jays, ravens

can imitate. And they imitate much better than parrots. So I often think that with parrots, it sounds quite robotic and you can tell it's a parrot. But with Ravens. Hi. Oh, yeah, there it is. No, no, no. Hi. But doesn't it sound, it sounds like something is fucking trapped in, like it sounds like not just a bird talking, it sounds like something is fucking trapped in. It sounds like not just a bird talking.

It sounds like someone is trapped somewhere like inside the bird or something. Because it feels like a bit where like a character just opens their mouth and a recording plays or something where it's like, it, it's just not, I don't know. It, it feels robotic in the sense of like, this is a machine that does a thing that can replay audio out of its mouth Yeah, and so this applies to Ravens are kind of the best at it, but it applies to all Corvids so even you know crows J's are really good mimics and Like Ravens in different parts of the world sound totally different from one another because they're imitating I'm assuming like different sounds right, But they're basically taking what's around them

and like reflecting it back. Like there, so it's just like the noises they make are like a reflection of, there's probably like sounds from the ancient world that are like words from dead language that only survive in like the calls of- I don't even think about that. It's like just being, you know, sounds that were captured

generations and generations ago. Like that's probably why that one was like, boy, I was like, exactly. Very problematic in many ways. But yeah, I was on a Georgia plantation boy. Like, yeah, OK. All right. What's something you think is overrated miles overrated? Just Americans fear of death and you know unending pursuit for immortality This there's like something

culturally very unique about Americans were like We just don't think death is like a thing that we don't deal with that shit. Yeah. And we're like, oh, we have the forever young mentality. I mean, like you look at like certain stats, like 28 of the out of like the 38, like high tech anti aging startup labs are like in the United States. We're like people are super I just saw an article about all these Americans who are super into dog cloning. Just like this idea that we can just like, I don't know, maybe upload my brain to the cloud or I can, you know, Disney my body and cryo freeze and be alive later.

It just feels like, again, we hate death and also act like it's a thing that's not coming. I think that's also why we have politicians that think they can still do a job while simultaneously have the rest of America hating the sight of old people like, like, what the fuck is so old? But then the old people like, I can do it. It's OK. And like, this is just fucking gross. Yeah. And I had this as a as one of mine a couple of weeks ago, but I think I didn't necessarily I might not use it,

but it was in response to like the Jimmy Carter photos and people being like, oh my God, this ruined my appetite. Stop showing Jimmy Carter. It's fucking disgusting. It's like, oh man, that's coming for all of us. Yeah, right. And I think this idea of pseudo immortality also feeds into the lack of action in regards to climate change, similar to how those who want to live forever believe that a miracle pill is right around the corner. So we also have like like the long termism type thinking around climate and like what is like what we need to do now or what we don't need to worry about.

Or because like maybe a magic things right around the corner. I think fine. Yeah, there's just it's just such a fucking damning mindset. And it's just like pervasive because like now as you I think about that too, in the context of how like the Trump rallies clearly are having diminished turnout, like physical, like physically, bodies are not showing up in space to see Trump talk. And I think you see that one where he was like, not an empty seat, they tell you it's empty seats, and then the-

Caddiest camera operator- The camera man just goes rogue and starts- Zooms out- Panning around the stadium to show all the empty seats- Wow, you closed the upper deck. And like people leaving. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

And I think part of that too is like this thing of like people being like, dude, he's old. Like it might finally be connecting aside from that the whole platform is odious. I think more than that, it's just kind of like it's a bummer to just see this guy. Like it's like, again, realizing an elderly relative is like declining. And they're kind of like, I don't know if I want to like be there for that. Like, even though I do, I love I love what this stands for.

But it's also like freaking me out is like coming from a culture where we want to deny that death is a thing that comes for us. Yeah. Yeah. And I think it has something to do with like fascism too becomes a lot more popular when like people can't deal with their own fallibility and weakness like that. And obviously, you know, as religion declines, we've talked about before. You sometimes see an uptick in these other ways of dealing with the fact that we all got that coming to us.

Yeah. Tick tock tick tock, man. But again, with so many days between now and then. And just think about the show 24. Look, look what Jack Bauer packed into a single day. Exactly. And he was on heroin. And he was on heroin half the time. Wasn't he high on heroin one of those days? That was something that the terrorists did to him. And that is something to keep in mind.

The terrorists will hook you on heroin. Yeah, it's the terrorists that got you on heroin. Yeah, I was reading this book, Stiff, that's by a mortician, and she was talking about how it's interesting that we need to name mammal meat, like different words, like steak and pork, like chicken, we can admit because like we're right, we feel like different enough, but like mammal meat, we're like, no, that's, that's nothing to be worried about. That's a state and that's a pork. That's and that's a pork, not a pig.

That's cow. Yeah. Cow burger. All right. Uh, my overrated is there's this thing that, uh, people say where they're like, you know, new years is for amateurs, new years is amateur hour because people are like going out on new Year's the way that they do.

I feel like it's common in like the functional alcoholic world. Can't handle a fucking six hour binge drinking session. Yeah. Right. I have a drinking problem year round. So I'm somehow superior in this logic. I'm bringing this up now this week because someone on the podcast search engine was making the comparison to like anxiety and election season.

That like this is the rest of the world's chance to experience what those of us with anxiety already spend our day to day lives in that space of just being terrified about things that we can't control. Right. It's like kind of our thing. So I don't know. In both cases, I would say, like instead of being like, that's for amateurs and fuck the amateurs, this could be like our time to shine, you know? Yeah. Welcome to anxiety. It's very uncomfortable.

You know, I'm dealing with it. You can too or not. Yeah. Or you can combine both and drink your way out of. I don't know, man. Just drink like it's December 31st of 1990. I feel like that's going to be happening as well. But yeah, I don't know. Like, I find my anxiety is helped when I like actually don't try to

ignore it personally, but like think about it, talk about it with other people who are, you know, going to actually listen to you, preferably like out loud, not on the internet. Um, and like be honest about how you're feeling. That's one of the main things that helps me is like trying to come directly at it. Yeah. And any time I'm trying not to look at my anxiety, it gets worse. Half of what the battle for my own whenever I'm feeling anxious about something is the

fact that I'm actively being like, I don't want to feel like this. You should be feeling like this. Exactly. Exacerbating it versus being like, OK, some sums up. Yeah, let's let's let's investigate this a little bit. You're feeling exactly how you are supposed to feel. Yeah, right, right, right. So let's let's deal with it.

Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, it's for amateurs, though. For amateurs. Oh, you have anxiety about. You know, then you have anxiety. Yeah, it's that easy. I've been here, ma'am. Yeah, exactly. I've been sitting in front of my computer sweating for the past four years.

Was fucking born in the darkness, motherfucker. That's right. Meditation is very uncomfortable. I find that it's helpful to, uh, meditate and then right after you, like write things down after you meditate, you're not trying to like block anything out though, again, like for, you know, just observe the feelings you're having and the fact that you're having them. And then you can like, you know, think about those like that Australian high jumper in the Olympics right after every attempt do it in your little wrote a little little

anxiety journal exactly a little yeah all right good luck out there folks let's take a quick break and we'll be back to talk about the shit that is giving everybody anxiety we'll be right back that is giving everybody anxiety. We'll be right back. Hey everyone, it's Jay Shetty. And I am so excited to let you know that my latest podcast interview is with the one and only Tom Hanks. Tom rarely does long form interviews. So I was so grateful to have the time to dive deep into family,

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Big weekend at the polls, which we will get to also a big weekend in popular culture. You know, Trump has continued to kind of do what he's been doing. A lot of rallies, a lot of bragging, a lot of like violent rhetoric. We'll dig into that a little bit more tomorrow. Kamala Harris made a surprise cameo on Saturday Night Live this weekend appearing as Maya Rudolph as Kamala. So they cut my Rudolph as Kamala, like is like, all right, I'm going to have a sit down with myself before the speech turns to the mirror. And wouldn't you know it? Guess who?

And I did take off my glasses and wipe them off and then put them back on. It was the Kamala Harris. And but I mean, Trump, Trump supporters made a good point. Like, this is a direct ripoff of the mirror sketch that Donald Trump did with Jimmy Fallon in 2015, which is wild to think. Like, I had forgotten that that happened. Right. But Trump wrote that sketch probably and came up with the idea for it.

So that's fucked up that they're like biting his shit. Dude, they're always biting his style, dude. They always been biting Trump's style. I mean, yeah, I mean, this is also just like a time honored bit form that they do on the show whenever they have a celebrity. Literally, any time they have a celebrity on that, they've been doing an impression of they will do this bit. It's like one of the main genres of SNL. They're stealing, they're fucking biting his style and they're infecting the voting populace by having this amazing appearance in a cold open. Yeah, I don't know.

It was a solid sketch that seemed to probably accomplish what Kamala Harris was hoping the Harris campaign was hoping for. And Trump is pissed. Not just because they stole his idea for his sketch with Jimmy Fallon. his idea for his sketch with Jimmy Fallon. Also, because apparently he like that, there are laws that say that there need to be equal time provisions. Right. And so next week, Donald Trump gets to be the host of SNL is what the law says. It's good. Right on time. Yeah. No. So it seems like there was actually an agreement ahead of time with NBC.

And Trump was given a long ad spot in a NASCAR race, like ahead of time. That's that's it. All done. All done. I know, although everyone was like, there's there a fucking there. They're trying to fucking, you know, Sandbag Trump or whatever. But clearly, as a broadcaster like NBC, they know the law where they're like, yeah, if one person has it, you got to offer it to the other. So that just means he got it during the little the car race.

OK, I mean, Lorne Michaels pledged that no. So earlier in the election season, Lorne Michaels hadged that no. So earlier in the election season, uh, Lorne Michaels had said no candidate would appear in cameos because of equal time provisions. But I feel like that was just him. First of all, interesting to suddenly start, start having morals about when candidates appear on SNL, uh, you know, when he had Trump host SNL in 2015. Yeah. Still.

So he's still reeling from that one. Yeah. But that those rules only say if one candidate appears on a public broadcast, not cable, the network has to offer the same amount of time to other candidates, the network. So hence the NASCAR ad being basically finished like that, you know, exactly what the letter of the laws, but there was this headline that was going around an FCC commissioner, which I just assumed because I don't know the fucking hierarchy of the FCC.

I assumed that this was like the head of the FCC. It is not, but he claimed a FCC commissioner claims Kamala Harris, SNL appearance violated equal time rule. The FCC commissioner in this case is Brendan Carr, who isn't exactly an unbiased participant. He's a Trump appointee who, uh, literally penned a chapter of project 2025, which prompted house Democrats to call for an ethics investigation

into him. But he's widely perceived to be a front runner for FCC chairman, which is the actual head of the FCC if Trump wins, but that is not currently his position. And the actual FCC weighed in and noted that a cars comments do not represent those of the agency And be the FCC has not made any determination regarding Politically programming rules nor have we received a complaint from any interested parties? So great because again, they had already agreed they've already worked it out. Yeah, they already worked it out nice Well, look they they got to try something everything has to be a scandal at this point Yeah, to again they have to feed the narrative whenever possible that

they they will be right in their attempts to try and do some kind of extra legal shit to try and overturn whatever happens in the election. So in the world of actual like polling and what people think is actually going to happen tomorrow. There is a big poll results over the weekend. Yeah. The Seltzer poll or we call them Seltzer. Seltzer, J.N. Seltzer. I like I like when people like to put the initial first initial then distinguish.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Jay and so Jay and is it just Joanne? But she just like doesn't like that name. Yeah, who knows? Like, OK, fine. There were a lot of Joanne's in my school. I went with Jay and the O is actually a period. Yes, exactly.

Yeah, she was the only person. So she just does polls in Iowa, first of all. So it's like I as the weekend started, you know, there were some good early voting data for Democrats and people were like, it looks like it could be leaning toward Harris, like outperforming the polls by quite a bit. If the early voting data is to be believed, but a lot of the polling insider people who just are obsessively following every poll,

we're like, let's see what the Selsler poll says, because even though it's just Iowa, she is highly respected. She is highly respected and the reason she's highly respected is that back in 2020 and 2016 at this point, like heading into the election, there were no polls that were showing Trump doing as well as he did except for hers. Like she was the only one because she doesn't. We talked last week about this theory from this guy, Ed and Germentum, that basically all the mainstream media polls are kind of herding together around like a split right down the middle because they're terrified of

overestimating Harris again, like overestimating the Democrats again. And so his theory is that like she's actually in a better position than the polls are indicating. And the thing that I kept seeing was people be like, if Harris is within like five points of Trump, we'll know that things are like really in a good position for the Democrats. Yeah, because it's like it's a 12 point swing basically. Yes. Yeah.

From from 2020 is what she was showing. Right. So that's the that's the thing is like you're looking at how things have changed from one election to the next. And it came out and Harris was actually leading Trump by three, which is among likely voters in Iowa, which again seems it is a small sample size, but this poll has been able to like predict trends. She's been within like a point up to between one and two and a half points of the actual results. So like in the and this also I think in the past got her a lot of flack because in 2020, everyone was

like, dude, Biden's fucking killing it everywhere. And the race was a lot closer than it was. And her 2020 prediction was it was going to be an R plus seven sort of result in Iowa. And the outcome was actually plus eight. So she was spot on. People like, this is wrong. This is wrong. 2016 R plus seven is what she predicted ended up being a plus nine. And that sort of showed how Trump just tore through

the Midwest in 2016. And people were like, what the fuck? So again, I think a lot of people are also using this to like extrapolate these potential, these results with what could happen in other Midwestern states, because if she's doing that well in Iowa, they say sort of like the demographic makeup is very similar to places like Wisconsin or Michigan, and maybe that means really potentially oh, eight levels of a blowout at best. But most people seem to really just be taking this and be like, oh, shit, if this is this is the Selser poll in Iowa and we're actually having a Kamala lead, this this does just

generally does not bode well for the Trump campaign. Yeah. Granted, I just like the thing. So I was on a real Selser high on when it when it broke on Saturday night. The come down is like, OK, yes, she's been right before. It's still a very small sample size. And one of the samples was the Kerry, George W. Bush election and Bush ended up like outperforming her poll by quite a bit. And that does feel like that was an election that felt really close heading in and ended up being really

close. So that like does and, and, you know, the bad guy, the war criminal one. Yeah. I mean, and since then, though, she's been on a run. I think a lot of people pointed out because like a lot of Republicans are like, oh, let's look at her, what she thought was going to happen in 2004. And it feels like very specific, like completely ignoring the last 12, 10 to 12 years of predictions and forecasting. But again, I think, I think generally, I think most people feel that

just looking at Trump's crowd sizes and just like the wacky shit that's coming out, it's like this doesn't feel like a winner. Like in 2016, you could kind of be like, I can kind of see how he's kind of convincing people here. This has felt like a sideshow. So I think combining those sort of things can make it feel a little bit more realistic that Trump could lose for sure.

But I think it's also understandable that everyone's like, I don't want to feel good until we have a fucking- Yeah, no one does because that's the most painful shit is to be like, ha ha ha ha. Trump took an L and then he's like, oh, did I? And now we're dealing with all kinds of untold horrors. But look, I think this is great news for everyone who's just dying to go back to brunch.

Thank you. Get your brunch resi's fucking locked and loaded, baby. I was on Saturday night when the polling results came out. I was just doing the opposite of doom scrolling. I was dopamine scrolling. Oh, shit. And then I was also on on Resi making those brunch reservations, bro, for this weekend.

I'm going to be a chachoni Sunday morning at noon, baby. But yeah, I mean, this is this is fucked up a lot of things like now. I mean, because this is again, I think the other thing that a lot of pollsters have pointed out just generally to is there's been a ton of these like partisan Republican polls that have come out that are showing Trump leads that again are way are that are used to like, you know, mess with the weighted averages to try and again make the race seem close because this also this is I think we talked about this last week is like the double-edged sword of all the like well we think it's gonna be a tight race. It like absolutely feeds

into the MAGA narrative that if it's this close and it's a blowout something's up. Yeah if it's close in the polls or he's up in the polls and then, yeah, I mean, he's already like that. They're already there. There was an article in the Guardian we'll link off to, but they're already being like, I'm winning in all the polls. It's over. It's going to be a blowout. They're all going to find out. So that, I mean, I'm sure partially he's a megalomaniac who believes that and nobody's willing to tell him that that's the truth. But the attention is being focused on like the right wing polling, like small

right wing polls that are like affecting the weighted average, but it's also like the big mainstream media polls are also showing it as like a dead heat or, you know, yeah, well, that's because they're cowards. Right. They, they don't want to be wrong. I mean, I don't know the other like time Sienna. So Selser and time Sienna are the two that like have not traditionally done the hurting thing. And time Sienna is like much closer. They have Harris like down in Michigan and like tied in Pennsylvania. So still seems like it's potentially going to be incredibly close.

But this was, yeah, I mean, it feels like anything it's not what it isn't going to be is a blowout in Trump's direction. It's either going to be a blowout in the Democrats direction or a very tight race. It's not going to be the thing we'd be like, dude, Trump, like, because there's some wacky ones like Trump's up three in fucking Wisconsin. You're like, no. Yeah. What he, in addition to like citing the polls that have him up, he said that this poll should

be illegal and called it fake, which it's just so long to still be on the descriptor. Fake is wild. I yeah, I think that's a good sign. If you go, this one should be illegal. It's like, oh, maybe the whole illegal. And yeah, I don't know. It like the other thing that some people are paying attention to that I don't think is even worth coverage, but it is getting coverage is the betting markets, which are, you know, they're just of like, when you start paying a lot of attention to something, it affects how that thing behaves and performs.

Like now that there's a big story that Elon Musk and Nate Silver are talking about that, where it's like the betting markets really are good at predicting this stuff, um, now everybody's paying attention to those and the people who follow Nate Silver and Elon Musk are putting bets in. There was also this- Yeah, good, good. Yeah, go ahead. Lose your fucking money. And those markets suddenly, after the Selzer poll and the Madison Square Garden rally, were starting to shift back toward Harris a little bit more after they were showing a

guaranteed blowout. starting to shift back toward Harris a little bit more after they were like showing a guaranteed blowout. Um, the other big betting market revelation was there, there was this mysterious figure who invested like $20 million, like placed a $20 million bet on Trump. Um, and the New York times finally like, you know, revealed who it was and like interviewed them and it was just like some rich guy in France. Yeah. And like 30 million down, I think. Yeah, I think. Yeah.

That's what completely shifted the markets because he dumped in like millions of dollars. And in the interview, his read on the election is just like, yeah, he's like, yeah, I don't know. Trump got underestimated the last two times. So I say yes,, this will happen again. No sports fan. Right. It's like just the most basic kind of take.

And maybe the basic take is, is right. And he will be underestimated again, but, who knows? I think people were like, Oh, somebody betting that much money must have some access to some like mysterious inside information. And it just turned out it was just some rich guy.

You can just be a degenerate gambler with millions of dollars. Yeah, that could also be true. The other thing that's really interesting I saw just with us in terms of a quote around polling Carrie Lake, who obviously has had some terrible luck running for governor in Arizona and is now running in the Senate against Ruben Gallego. Like she's down in all like most of the polls or like maybe within a point or two, but she recently just loved this quote. She quote, my internal polling looks good. We're ahead of my opponent and I feel comfortable with our polling.

Our polling is a little different. We take polling, but we also combine it with AI, which reads all of what's happening on social media and across the internet. So based on that, she's got some really interesting numbers. She's like, I'm actually up. When you count in all the Twitter bot responses that are talking positively, I'm actually winning. So therefore, I might have to take another electoral L. But anyway, I talked to my AI assistant and they told me exactly what I wanted to hear, which by the way is frequently the job, the express job of a large language model

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Mm. And Brian the editor brought up a good question during our break. And we're back. And Brian, the editor, brought up a good question during our break. What are the polls for miles? Why? They're like, just there to tell us what somebody thinks is going to happen in two days. That's going to happen either way. Yeah, and they get the satisfaction of saying, and I knew it and I knew it. I predicted the future in your face.

They're there to create celebrities like Nate Silver, that who and look at all the good he's done. I mean, he did change polling for sure. But yeah, like now he's kind of he's he's in his twilight a bit. But yeah, anyway. Yeah, it's it's a it's a gigantic industry. And these are the kinds of things when, when you're considered the gold standard,

it means more people will pay you more money for your, your forecasting, although cells are operates in Iowa. But it's just, it's the horse race. It's pretty much that you just need. It's the horse race, it's bad. It does, it has become something I've been become obsessed with because of the fact that we have this like fucking winner take all system.

We have like these two possible futures ahead of us that feel like they could be starkly different from one another. And or really similar. Yeah. You cut it. another. Um, and really similar. Yeah. Depending on how you cut it. Yeah. Yeah, I would be, yeah. I think eerily similar if Trump still had the same type of people around

them that he did in his first term. Uh, I think with project 2025, they would be end up being pretty different. And so, yeah, it's just human weakness. I would say it's the reason for the polls. But I do think a lot of people are struggling with the what is going to happen of it all. I certainly am. Somebody who's struggling with the what's going to happen, were they all lying to me of it all is one Donald J. Trump. So he got mad at Julia Roberts for suggesting that Magadude's wives can vote for who they want to vote for and not just

like for who their husband wants them to vote for. What happened to the good old days? Yeah, exactly. Uh, but it's just an ad that she voiced, But I like it because it also, I don't know, I feel like they should have been using this strategy earlier to attack him from the direction of all the people he cares most about, which is like people who were relevant in the late 80s and early 90s.

Yeah, I mean, he's definitely, it's, this is him calling into Fox and Friends about this. And yeah, he's really disappointed about it, like in this really sincere way. I'm so disappointed at Julia Roberts, because I look, and she's gonna look back on that and she's gonna cringe that, did I really say that? It doesn't say much for her relationship,

but I'm sure she has a great relationship. But the wives and husbands, I don't think that's the way they deal. I mean, can you imagine a wife not telling a husband who she's voting for it? Do you ever hear anything like that? Even if you have a horrible if you had a bad relationship, but you're gonna tell your husband Your wife's like being all secret behind your back. I did that. That wouldn't happen.

They tell you the truth, even if it's really bad, which is a really interesting point. But I I do like the idea of if they need like Richard gear to also do like an ad like that and you'd be like, yeah, we're trying to. Like, has Mike Tyson come out? I feel like he would be really devastated if Mike Tyson came out and like talk shit about him because he's a big boxing guy and right. You know, he's like Michael Douglas. Always a hack. That guy never liked him.

I really disappointed in him. It was. Yeah. When he starts that off, he's like, because I really love that. She's going to be cringing like he almost he like stops himself from admitting his feelings for Julia Roberts. Yeah. Yeah. Love it. Pretty. Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. What are you going to do? I just like the two.

I don't know if you saw the pictures of Trump and Eric Trump doing early voting at the polls. And the cameras caught them both peering over the little barrier to look at what their wives were, how they were voting, like in the most suspicious way. Eric Trump's wife is the fucking head of the RNC, right? This fool is literally bent. Eric Trump is like leaning like it's the fucking smooth criminal video, trying to like look

over the fucking divider to see. I think these pictures really encapsulate potentially what the entire election could be. It's about these like these dudes are just like, what are you doing? You better be doing the right, making the right choice. And over here, you got to sit right next to me. Right. Right. Yep. Yep. No, that's not how you spell Donald Trump. No, move up. Yep. There you go. Not that one. Not that one.

He's also like someone who would make it his goal to sleep with as many of his friends wives as he possibly could. Like he would like record phone conversations with his friends and then play back like suspect shit that they said to the wives to try and like get them mad enough at their husband to like, fuck him, I guess. Wow. Wow. That's called 4D chess. Right. But he seems to understand that women don't tell their husbands everything, but maybe he assumes it's different with him. But you could just hear it in his voice and with his nervous laughter there. He knows. He's never been in a healthy marriage or relationship that's like equitable in any way. He knows.

My wife is not telling me everything. Like you control everything that they do in their life and then they don't trust you. Is that? I don't know. Could you imagine? No way. Even when it's really bad, they wouldn't do that. I think we mentioned it last week, but Jesse Waters similarly like melted down over the possibility that married mega women would vote for Harris. Yeah, which like having an affair. Yeah, almost like having an affair, which by the way, really, he's only married to his

wife because he cheated on his ex wife of 10 years with her. But that goes one way. The wife doesn't do it to the husband. Okay. Yeah, exactly. That's weird. The guy should cheat on the girl. Right.

That's, I mean, that's how, that's what my dad taught me. Um, all right. And finally, we want to say a fond farewell to one of the greats. Yeah. Ever do it. Quincy Jones. Yes. One of the true first like black entertainment moguls.

You know, like this man has the EGOT. He's, he's dabbled in film, television, music, like fucking everything. You know, obviously the, the thriller is probably the thing most people will talk about when they talk about him. But yeah. His first. Just right after the thriller season, you know? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. I mean, we will always know him for his wonderful interviews

and the wild shit he would say. Yeah. I was a producer of Fresh Prince. I didn't realize like how much until I think it was like one of those interviews where they told the story about how like he had will he invited Will Smith to his birthday party, which sounds like there were a lot of people there. And then like made him audition for him and like the NBC executives. He'd never like acted before.

And he was like, Hey, we're going to do an audition. Like I just like know that you're going to be good at this. He just like conjured Will Smith's career out of thin air, just like based on a vibe that he had like a hunch. He's got the gift. He's got the gift. And also, again, for sneak sniffing out conspiracy theories and the like to see Jones is a very, very gifted man. Yeah.

Yeah. I like the last thing he got a lot of attention for, and I think people are treating this as like, let's not focus on his controversial interviews, but I feel like his controversial interviews were fucking awesome. They were the best. They were so good. Yeah.

What he said, I know too much, man. What's something you wish you didn't know? What's something you wish you didn't know? What's something you wish you didn't know? Who killed Kennedy? Who did it? Oh, John Connor. The connection was there between Sinatra and the mafia and Kennedy. Joe Kennedy.

He was a bad man. He came to Frank to have him talk to John Connor about getting votes. I've heard this theory before that the mob helped win Illinois for Kennedy in 1960. Hey, man, you know, we shouldn't talk about this publicly. Where are you from? The where you from is so good. So the where you from, by the way, in this article, they were talking about how Will Smith was talking about his first time meeting Quincy Jones and his first. So we go in and he said, where are you from? I said, I'm from Philly. He said, your character's from Philly.

I'm like, okay. And then like that's, that's all he needed to hear. He was like, you're going to be a massive movie star now. He also talked about dating Ivanka Trump. Um, yeah, about, you know, Marlon Brando and fucking everybody, including James Baldwin, Richard Pryor, Marvin Gay Brando and fucking everybody, including James Baldwin, Richard Pryor and Marvin Gaye. Yeah.

Yeah. That was my favorite pivot too, because when they're like, when they're like, how do you know that? He's like, come on, man, he did not give a fuck. You like Brazilian music? That was one of my favorite all time Quincy pivots. One of the great pivots in the history of conversation. Oh yeah, he's like, when we said, man, he said he'd fuck anything.

He's like, wow, how do you know? Anyway, you like Brazilian music? Yeah. He's the most charming motherfucker you ever met. He'd fuck anything, anything. He'd fuck a mailbox. James Baldwin, one of our greatest writers and thinkers. Richard Pryor, greatest stand up comedian.

Marvin Gaye, one of our great singers. He slept with them. How do you know that all mailboxes? Obviously, he fuck a mailbox like James Baldwin. You know, that's right. Yeah. But 91. It just look, Quincy, rest in peace to you. Yeah, absolutely.

I'm sure there's a conspiracy theory out there like interesting that he revealed those things and now he passes away. Yeah. Okay. Was he vaccinated? He was 91. I don't know. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday morning. We're back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show until then be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine, get your flu shot, don't do nothing about white supremacy,

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