The Daily Zeitgeist - Everybody Hates iPad, MORE The Lord Of Ring? 05.10.24

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

In episode 1674, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian and co-host of Yo, Is This Racist?, Andrew Ti, to discuss… Why Everyone Hates That iPad Commercial So Much, Sex Workers Gain “Historic” Lab...or Rights In Belgium, Warner Bros. To Stubbornly Keep Making Lord of the Rings Movies and more! Why Everyone Hates That iPad Commercial So Much Crush! | iPad Pro | Apple A new Apple ad is sparking backlash from viewers who say it hits the wrong note Apple’s Crushing iPad Ad Trashed By Hugh Grant, Justine Bateman & Almost Everyone Else Apple’s ‘Crush’ ad is disgusting Apple’s Soul-Crushing New Ad: Who Thought This Was a Good Idea? Sex Workers Gain “Historic” Labor Rights In Belgium 'Historic': Belgium first in the world to approve labour law for sex workers Belgian sex workers to get health insurance, pensions and maternity leave in world first Warner Bros. To Stubbornly Keep Making Lord of the Rings Movies WBD Chief David Zaslav On Streaming Bundle With Disney: “It Does Feel Like This Is A Moment” Peter Jackson’s ‘Hunt for Gollum’ movie is likely a hidden Aragorn epic BBL Drizzy Song LISTEN: Poisoned by Cousin KulaSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 bunch of fucking italians and irish right and in chicago jack don't talk about your own people like that bro yeah and polish a lot of a lot of polish people a lot of the polish people just spit on the ground fucking turn of the century racist I need to find out Seven years into the show That I hate Polish people Oh my god Dude what
Starting point is 00:00:31 Holy shit Jack is like a Yeah Very only Anti-Polish racist Why? He doesn't even get a lot of the stereotypes right They think they're so smart
Starting point is 00:00:43 Yeah Wait what? What? news and iHeart podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:01:55 I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry.
Starting point is 00:02:15 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to season 337 episode 5 of their daily production of iheart radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness and it's friday may 10th 2024 national. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. National Washington Day. Shout out. Is that the Emerald State?
Starting point is 00:02:47 The Great State? What do we call that? Apple State. I don't know. Is there a place? Dude, I fucked that up. Who knows? Nah, I think I got the wrong region.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Yeah, we call that Appalachia. I think we call it Appalachia for all the apples. It's also National Clean Up Your Room Day, and I won't. It's National Lipid Day. It's National Shrimp Day. It's also National Provider Appreciation Day. national clean up your room day and i won't it's national lipid day it's national shrimp day it's also national provider appreciation day which i believe that's just child care yeah shout out everybody taking care that's teachers that's special educators that's uh people that that watch our kids while we work and we hustle shout out to all y'all i feel like shrimp is a food that
Starting point is 00:03:23 goes the furthest from like high on the things I want to eat like desperately when I'm hungry to even if I'm full on not shrimp. I like shrimp grosses me out. Is that no, not for you? Okay. I love shrimp. I love shrimp too. When I'm hungry. Wait, when you're hungry, I don't understand.
Starting point is 00:03:44 If I'm full shrimp, I just, I was When I'm hungry. Wait, when you're hungry, I don't understand. But what if I'm full, shrimp? I was just thinking about shrimp. Oh, if you're not hungry, you're like, nah, I don't need shrimp. When I'm not hungry, shrimp grosses me out for some reason. Oh, I love shrimp, dude. I fucking love shrimp. I love peeling them. I like them peeled, whatever.
Starting point is 00:04:00 We're going to go on an extended 45-minute Forrest Gump bubble gum. Yeah, exactly. I like shrimp gumbo, coconut shrimp. That's right. Yeah, shrimp stew. I love it all. I just had some shrimp last night. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:12 I was thinking about shrimp this morning before I ate because it's International Shrimp Day or whatever, National Shrimp Day. And then I just thought about it after I ate like five pancakes and no longer appealing to me. And this morning I was like, God, I will literally kill for some shrimp. Anyway, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Don't break my balls, my stinky, stinky balls. I just don't think you understand. Because if you break my balls, my stinky, stinky balls, I might sell you a hefty tip.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Please. Woo. That is courtesy of La Caroni on the discord in reference to the revelation that I have a pay pig relationship with Marcella Arguello. Every time she makes fun of me, I'm secretly like real into it. You can hear a little perverted exhale. Stop it. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Whenever she's roasting me, just listen back. You'll hear a little perverse exhale from me every time. Yes. Yes. Anyways, that's gross. But shout out to Marcella. Always great. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. Miles Gray, a.k.a. Cause yo, my tapeworm makes me forget short term. Yo, my tapeworm makes me forget long term. Pull the tapeworm out of your brain. Hey. Pull the tapeworm out of your brain. Hey, pull the tapeworm out of your brain. Hey, hey. Okay, for people who don't fuck with toxicity, it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:05:52 Shout out Bottles and Fans on Discord because I was thinking of that System of a Down track because it's all about tapeworms. So shout out the tapeworm. Shout out Bottles and Fans. Shout out Surge of System of a Down. Some of the other guys have fallen off in ways. Can't quite get behind no more. But yeah, anyway, thank you for that one. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat
Starting point is 00:06:13 by one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore, a hilarious and brilliant producer and TV writer you know from the Yo, Is This Racist podcast. It's Andrew T! Andrew T! First he's got a guest, then he's got a host. Tell you I knew the rate is gold Racist podcast. It's Andrew T! Andrew T! What's he gonna guess that he's gonna host? Tell you I knew the rate is gold. Let it go. What? T gonna get... Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:06:32 I couldn't get through it. I couldn't get through it. That is from... I was on one calendar week ago. I talked shit about how he's never gonna look up AKAs in the Discord. This is via Twitter. Registered Discord. So this is via Twitter. Registered mail. So very
Starting point is 00:06:48 tired on Twitter. The O in so very tired is a number zero. Okay. Thank you. How's your voice? You had a bit of a development since last we spoke or I wasn't on the episode. The literal opposite. Turns out
Starting point is 00:07:03 if anyone noted any sluggishness in my performance last time it's because I was convinced I didn't have COVID but I absolutely had COVID turns out you totally had COVID I had been visiting my family in Atlanta
Starting point is 00:07:20 they were all sniffly and a little bit had coughs, but it was like a fucking two-year-old or whatever. And they all were consistently testing negative all week. So I just assume I had what they had, but I had either COVID or they had a big batch of bad tests, which I guess is possible too.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Yeah. Are the tests working? I had a similar thing. I still have a stockpile from the early days. It can't work anymore, right? I mean, I don't know how it works. Is it like peanut butter in the jar? Do they go bad like
Starting point is 00:07:53 peanut butter? To me, no. There's no way. My spit still works. It's a little vial of enzyme. Oh, yeah. I forgot about that part. I feel like the paper part of the test is probably fine enough. Right. I feel like that enzyme can't...
Starting point is 00:08:10 You're probably supposed to be refrigerating it and throwing it out after three months is my medium-strong test. It still tastes fine to me, but I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. You really put that swab real far up. Exactly. I get that drip.
Starting point is 00:08:28 That's what, that's what the kids are talking about when they talk about the drip, right? Yeah. Treating the COVID test like a fucking, um, Oh, not pixie stick.
Starting point is 00:08:35 Like fun dip. Yeah. That's all they agree. It's to basically be fun dip. If you do it the opposite way. Yeah. It's like unfun, fun dip.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Yeah. Not fun dip. Undip. Yeah. Yeah. like unfun fun dip. Yeah. Not fun dip. Undip. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, that's all I've been fucking doing. It wasn't too bad? I will say this.
Starting point is 00:08:52 It was not too bad, but it was worse than I thought. Right. Needless to say, try not to get COVID. Probably more people should be wearing masks more places. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:01 Yeah, probably. But hey, but they declared pandemic over. So... It was one of those things where I was like, i tested negative and i was like can i go out and i was like well joe biden would say it would be fine if i went out yeah and i was like come on jess there's a lot of shit he says that i probably don't want to live my life he's still alive i don't know i don't know man i mean that's what's probably he doesn't probably live by that. He just tells people that shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:26 That's gotta be right. Yeah. That's what I've been up to. Did you watch anything good out of boredom? Or rewatch anything you wouldn't have otherwise? Or just done anything really boring? I did one thing.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Once I started to feel better but was still testing positive, I was real bored. So I made kind of a bootleg karaage. Oh, okay. I just had chicken in my fridge. I had no sake, no... Meating?
Starting point is 00:09:59 I did have meating, actually. I used Chinese cooking wine. I didn't have... I had cornstarch, but because I used Chinese cooking wine. I didn't have... I had cornstarch, but because I'm a fucking idiot, I didn't have normal flour. So I used almond flour. It was weird, but fine.
Starting point is 00:10:16 And then because I was so bored, I made mayonnaise. In which... Good for you. That's where I was at. I was like, I'm going to make mayonnaise and deep fry in a wok for myself. Handmade artisanal mayo. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:30 At least it didn't affect your taste because that would have been such an L meal to be like, yeah, I made my mayonnaise and it all tasted like... I definitely did. My sense of smell is not 100%, but my taste is fine.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Oh, beautiful. I think. I don't fucking know. TBD. TBD. TBD. As someone else tastes the mayonnaise and their hair falls out, they're like, holy shit!
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yeah, just blast you with whatever's in here. I was watching some people play Hades 2 on various online. I love the vibe of the Hades franchise. I think the the art is so good i i you know i'm a switch god nintendo switch god like jack is obviously um jack is the first the one who told me
Starting point is 00:11:13 to get on hades uh and i did but then he was like hades nuts and then he was like seriously and he's like got your ass i don't even know what the fuck i'm talking about yeah but then i hear i don't think hades 2 is on switch right i don't think it's like oh i don't even know yeah yeah i think yeah it's a big l i think for the the switch fans at least not yet and i could be wrong anyways i can please uh correct me if i'm wrong but i have a feeling that's on ps5 and steam and that kind of shit yeah i mean two days ago games radarRadarPlus was saying, will Hades 2 be on PS5, Nintendo Switch, and Xbox Series X? So that would suggest that it's not there yet.
Starting point is 00:11:53 Okay. And I just looked that up. I just knew that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Gaming's in your bones. Just like how I knew the works of Turgenev earlier this week. Yes, exactly. You got a gamer's heart,
Starting point is 00:12:08 O'Brien. Yeah. Right. It's got the heart of a gamer. Cause the person who gave you that heart transplant was a gamer, right? Literally. The heart of a gamer.
Starting point is 00:12:17 Yeah. Yeah. I like to get them young, the hearts, you know, young gamers. A lot of beats left. have i i'm strongly assuming you guys have covered this already because it was weeks old and feel it was like right up your alley but
Starting point is 00:12:32 that shit about how the red lobster endless shrimp was like such a money loser for them yeah we didn't talk about that yeah and then i had a moment when you guys were doing the shrimp thing because i i had a sandwich off camera off camera off my whatever and i wanted to get in on the shrimp bits but i was like i'm gonna take one more bite of sandwich before we really get so shrimp is i i did notice you gesturing that i was incorrect on my take on shrimp being really great when i'm hungry but not as good when i'm not hungry. You like it no matter what. I think I do.
Starting point is 00:13:07 You know those Costco shrimp rings? Yeah. I could fully take one of those down. I've been at a party. Sir, the iodine. Isn't there a lot of iodine in shrimp? It can't be good. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:22 You get the pivon, but for iodine? Right. The pivon disease that he gave himself for mercury poisoning and then rfk jr okay no i think though that feels like that's from a movie only from rick ross um iodine it takes it would take a lot from what i understand what movie was there was a guy in a movie who like ate too much shrimp like a wheelbarrow shrimp? Yeah. Shrimp iodine movie? All I'm saying is, I think if there's any way to do... So that endless shrimp thing
Starting point is 00:13:54 felt like it was the movie pass of selling shrimp. Right, right. Yeah. But if it ever comes back... I think we got to take a field trip, boys. Oh, yeah. To Red Lobby's?
Starting point is 00:14:05 Try and put them out of business once and for all. Yeah. Oh, hell in the coffin. Dead lobster, more like. Like, did you see like those? I remember seeing like like stupid TikTok videos of like bros in college cafeterias. Like, you know how like in a college cafeteria, like the cereals dispensed out of like a plastic tower that you fill or whatever. dispensed out of a plastic tower that you can refill or whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:24 And these guys just kept trying to eat so many bowls of cereal to force the kitchen people to just refill the tower of fucking Cheerios. They roped more and more dudes and they'd have to be like, we're trying to empty the fucking tower. And they were just cheering
Starting point is 00:14:39 every time they would refill it and be baffled by it. I think we need something like that. We need to pull up 50 deep and then everybodyled by it. I think we need something like that. We need to pull up 50 deep and then everybody brings three friends. I think we could do it. That's probably the best thing we can do with our time right now. This feels like the type of thing I said on this show before,
Starting point is 00:14:55 but I went to a restaurant near me in Echo Park that's a Japanese-ish restaurant where they do the uh the grilled shrimp whatever the fuck that's called i'm looking at miles a little bit grilled what what do you mean just it's like grilled on the babby just grilled prawns but with the head on still okay anyway i went with i was at a table with like you know, half not Asian people, I would say.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Yeah. And my move there, because it's mostly white people because it's fucking Echo Park and this restaurant. So they bring out the shrimp and then they always bring out a little plate for people to discard their heads in. And I was like,
Starting point is 00:15:38 get that shit the fuck out of here. You fools. I'm not. We don't need this. And then none of the Asian of the asian people ate any shrimp heads so i had to take down an entire two plates worth of shrimp that's called christmas i remember i got made fun of in like junior high or whatever for eating shrimp tails in front of people they're like what are you doing i'm like in california yeah i could see that but i feel
Starting point is 00:16:02 like california is egregious. I don't know, man. People are fucked up and evil. What can I say? People are so stupid. Anyway. I guess I'm evil. I don't eat the tails or the heads. You gotta get in.
Starting point is 00:16:14 Dog. There he was. I just eat mayonnaise. I'll make this my search, even though it was a while ago, which was, how many shrimp heads is, like, is it possible to get an allergic reaction? I was a little ago, which was how many shrimp heads is it possible to get
Starting point is 00:16:25 an allergic reaction? I was a little like, man, I don't feel great. Like a manufactured allergic. You're not allergic, but your body's like, that'll be enough. I have some worries because
Starting point is 00:16:40 I feel like I don't have food allergies, but I did go to a boiling crab one time similarly and had enough shrimp that I was like, I think I have some hives. I don't really know what's happening here. I was just worried. I was like, can you give yourself a shellfish allergy? Can you OD on the shellfish? Went OD on the shellfish, possible to OD. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:07 All right, Andrew, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell the listeners a couple of things we might be talking about later on. We might get to the iPad commercial that everyone thinks is so cool. Limitarianism is just a very simple premise that I don't know, I think is cool. I think we should talk more about. Sex workers have gained historic labor rights in Belgium,
Starting point is 00:17:32 which is cool. Hey, speaking of shrimp rings and cereal towers, Warner Brothers has decided to stubbornly keep making Lord of the Rings movies. They, no. They're just going to stick with it. They don't give a fuck what you people say. People are like, please stop. We're so full. And they're just like, nah. So we'll talk about that. It's an all-around banger of an earnings call from Zuzlav.
Starting point is 00:18:02 All of that, plenty more. But first, Andrew, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history or something that you have recently screencapped? Obviously the shrimp thing. Shrimp thing. Possible to die from shrimp. I would say probably
Starting point is 00:18:17 the next most recent thing... Oh, yeah. Okay, so basically, the second I tested negative, I went, I was was like i want to go see a movie so bad i just want to get the fuck out of my house so i i finally uh late to the game but finally watched challengers and this this is just illustrative of how bad my brain works because this is a reflex even though i know it's stupid in retrospect. I did Google whether Challengers has a post-credits scene.
Starting point is 00:18:51 Where all the Challengers come together? Yeah. It does sound like it could be an attempt to replace Avengers with a new group of superheroes. Yeah, well, it turns into a foursome, basically.
Starting point is 00:19:06 I'm just like, it's just a reflect. I just want to know if I can leave the second the credits roll. And? Was there? In this case, to run to the bathroom and jack off, I'm assuming. Because Challengers is so hot. So hot. No?
Starting point is 00:19:23 Turns out. Yeah. No post-c. Turns out. Yeah. No post-credit sequence. I did not realize. I thought it was a wonderful movie. And I think this has been one of my recommendations prior on this show. Structurally, it is almost identical to the anime feature anime, The Last Slam Dunk. Oh, really?
Starting point is 00:19:42 I did not realize. It is much more of a sports movie than I thought. So, if you're on the fence, it's like a fucking, it's a sports movie. Right. Among other things. Sure, sure. You're like a tennis obsessive.
Starting point is 00:19:56 Yeah. Yeah. But it is that, like, all the same themes of, I mean, and many other themes, but the theme that I was surprised by was this sports competition,
Starting point is 00:20:09 hyper-focused competitiveness aspect of it. You thought that was more of a backdrop, but it is textually what the movie is about. It's part of the movie. It's a big part of the movie. And the other, this is just because this is to get to know me, and it's in the trailer, but the way Zendaya hurts her knee
Starting point is 00:20:27 is identical to the way I dislocated my knee when I was in high school. No! I forgot that was going to happen when I happened to the theater. It looks terrible. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Oh, man, that's horrible. So I'm fine. I've been having fun, guys. We have a great executive producer on our team, Lyra Smith, who has seen Challengers three times now, I think.
Starting point is 00:20:51 And it's like, I think I'm just going to keep seeing it. Yeah. Like, I think I'm just going to go until. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, she's just going to watch it until she can't watch it anymore wow it's it's quite good i don't it's it's so weird because it is like one of the last worlds i would ever want to live in it's so unpleasant being there it's yeah um but the movie's really good challengers see if you can challengers challengers yeah
Starting point is 00:21:25 and it does not have anything like there's the doesn't even mention the space shuttle as far as
Starting point is 00:21:33 oh no it's there though you know it's in the subtext okay good it's it's yeah
Starting point is 00:21:39 I mean at the end she puts on a mech suit and fights the queen challenger which is like oh is really insane. But away from her, you bitch. The way that movie was pitched was somebody had a whiteboard with Challenger on it.
Starting point is 00:21:58 They walked in and put the S and the dollar sign on it. That's right. We're all sad about this. And the dollar sign on it. That's right. We're all up on it. But yeah, it's textually there because you can tell that Zendaya's parents watched that in third grade, watched the Challenger explode.
Starting point is 00:22:19 I will say there's several time jumps in it. And I guess without spoiling it, it's really hard to buy Zendaya as certain ages that she is portrayed in. That is what I've heard. It's a little like, come on. Yeah. They show her as a baby, like in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Just a tiny Zendaya.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Right. No. Yeah, I've heard the same thing about certain age. Age. But. Age is inhabited tiny Zendaya. I've heard the same thing about certain age. Age is inhabited by Zendaya. I just feel, yeah. She's never had the thought, like, oh, my taxes are due. You know?
Starting point is 00:22:55 I guess I will say the character still supports that. It is kind of just like, even the alleged 30-year-old version, you're like, yeah, she probably doesn't wear a winter jacket. Right. Never had to.
Starting point is 00:23:11 Andrew, what is something you think is underrated? And this again, I've just had COVID. This is on me, obviously, because I know people love this, but I was just taking long-ass walks because I was like, I'm going to get some kind of exercise in. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:26 I guess part of it is, yeah, unbelievably long walks, I guess. Unbelievably? What are you talking about? Like a fucking sojourn across the state? I mean, I feel like I could do it now. But no, I mean two laps around Echo Park. Oh, okay. Which is unbelievably long for me.
Starting point is 00:23:46 So we were talking about first come, first serve. Yeah, okay. Which is unbelievably long for me. So we were talking about first gone for a while there. Yeah, that's what he means by unbelievably long. People start following him around because they can't believe he's still doing it. Wow, this guy did three laps around Echo Park Lake. Unbelievable. The legend grows after the second lap.
Starting point is 00:24:02 Never able to figure out the exact tweet for this, but it's the time of year where the baby geese are out. So I was trying to figure out some Gosling's Ryan Gosling fall guy thing.
Starting point is 00:24:17 My dog almost got in a fight with multiple mother geese. Don't fuck with geese, man. Geese are bitches. They are not nice. They seem angry and territorial. Their kids are cute. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:34 I saw, because of my, again, unfathomably long walks, I've seen multiple families of baby geese jumping into the goslings. I saw a gosling jump into the pool or into the lake. It's so cute.
Starting point is 00:24:50 So cute every time. Is that your favorite bird, would you say? As a man, Andrew T., what's your favorite bird? Damn, damn, damn, damn. This just needs to be part of our questions now. What's your favorite bird as a man? What's your favorite bird, dog?
Starting point is 00:25:06 TikTok, motherfucker. I'll say part of our questions now. What's your favorite bird as a man? What's your favorite bird, dog? Yeah. TikTok, motherfucker. I'll say, I think maybe just a regular duck. Goose is like too much. I'm not like, I'm not like that. Okay. They're very elegant and graceful,
Starting point is 00:25:20 the goose. Like by design, like their neck design is just too much. Hey, we're getting the light. We're getting the light. We're getting the light from Justin, folks. We're getting the goose. By design. Their neck design is just too much. We're getting the light from Justin. Folks, we're getting the light. Keep this shit moving. What's up that you think is overrated, Andrew? Apparently, it's
Starting point is 00:25:35 not giving a shit about COVID because I probably should have been more careful. Yeah. That's it. Well, everywhere you go... This is a theme week. Every time you get on a plane, there's less and less masks. Now you see people with masks
Starting point is 00:25:54 and like, is this person going to do a robbery? Why do they have a mask on? Nobody gets hurt. It's the plane's money. Yeah, right. It's the plane's smoked almonds. That's right. Nobody gets hurt. It's the plane's money. Yeah, right. It's the plane's smoked almonds. All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
Starting point is 00:26:18 I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts,
Starting point is 00:26:57 the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline,
Starting point is 00:27:24 a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job
Starting point is 00:27:55 and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it, like, you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career. Without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports where we live at the intersection
Starting point is 00:28:27 of sports and culture up first I explore the making of a rivalry Caitlin Clark versus Angel Reese I know I'll go down in history people are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game every great player needs a foil I ain't really near them boys I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her.
Starting point is 00:28:55 What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:29:18 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. Back. And an iPad commercial came out that seemed like a normal iPad commercial to me, but is getting a lot of backlash from people. And, I mean i i get it like it's it's seems a little like the machine will crush all of you yeah because the the commercial portrays like a bunch of like instruments like
Starting point is 00:29:58 painting supplies like a turntable a fucking piano paintbrushes like you know the tools of the artist and this gigantic fucking hydraulic press just fucks it all down to like of a fucking singularity and then when it when the the hydraulic press then releases and opens up it's like and here's the new ipad and yeah like i get what you're trying to say is like man look at all the fun shit you could do but i get like the on twitter and social media people fucking lost it japanese twitter fucking went up because they were like these are the fucking how dare they disrespect these tools that are used to create things or whatever i myself was also fucking upset because the very first object to get it at the top of this crush pyramid was a trumpet which is the very first object to get it at the top of this crush pyramid
Starting point is 00:30:45 was a trumpet which is the very first instrument i learned how to play and when i saw that thing just get absolutely just like crushed down it like i remember when i was a kid man like i i had this like older used trumpet and i always wanted a new trumpet because i remember all the other kids in band had like newer nicer trumpets and when i finally got one i was like in high school i would freak out if anything like ever happened to the bell or if it got dented or some shit like that so seeing that thing get fucked it it fucked me up and then a turntable i was like i was a dj then camera lenses and stuff i was like i my foray into media was taking pictures and making videos like this is fucked up i don't know why it really fucked me up because it it's not just that it like you know it's trying to say this is a way to amalgamate
Starting point is 00:31:30 these things yeah but it's shot as if it's destroying them yeah yeah they're obsolete it is like like a real it's such a bizarre i i kind of had a similar reaction initially where I was like, yeah, I don't love it, but whatever. However, someone on Twitter, Resurrection, R-E-Z-A-R W-R-E-Z-K Shun, basically did a version of this where
Starting point is 00:31:57 they set it to, I forgot, some different music, but play it backwards. And it is surprisingly heartwarming when you watch it. Yeah, absolutely. You replaced our screens with actual shit. Which says the same thing.
Starting point is 00:32:13 Here's what's inside. Yeah. This little tab has like, you know... The argument that people use iPad Pros to create art is a little specious, I feel like. Because it's like, yeah, you watch things on your iPad.
Starting point is 00:32:33 And people do create things, but not really. And I don't think they want to. The overall message doesn't really hang together intellectually. They have plastic Angry Birds in there that get smashed, suggesting that the game Angry Birds was a replacement for some real tangible version of Angry Birds where we're all just driving around with our cars full of Angry Birds that we were throwing at towers and it was so cumbersome but now we can replace it yeah it's uh i mean i think it's just also the backdrop where
Starting point is 00:33:13 people are just increasingly more and more suspicious of technology especially like in creative fields like we were just talking about how like that bbl drizzy ai song we're like i was just thinking about that like uh like in the context of the bbl drizzy thing this the backlash like i hate this fucking commercial now because the bbl drizzy like song sounds too good and people are like no it's just ai man it's just ai and i'm like but it can't just like they're taking somebody's work and like doing something to it in a way that like is utilizing AI in like some specific parts of the creation process. But there's also a lot of like instrumentation and music that is being used going into the mix. But everyone's like just AI.
Starting point is 00:34:02 You actually can replace all that stuff now. You don't need music anymore. Just need an iPad, man. Just need an iPad. Yeah. going into the mix but everyone's like just ai you actually can replace all that stuff now you don't need music anymore just need an ipad man just need an ipad yeah do all that shit cool it is it is like this thing where it's also like silicon valley i think has this like i think because their taste in creative stuff is so mid it's it's like this like like worship of dilettantism. Because the thing is, it's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:30 an iPad Pro can sort of do all these things badly, but why not get good at a thing? You actually don't need a thing that can paint and produce music and program and be your...
Starting point is 00:34:44 It's like, okay, sure. Everything's getting literally flattened and produce music and like program and beer. Like, yeah, it's like, okay, everything's getting like literally flattened in this way where we, we aren't valuing like the process of like honing and developing a craft, which I think is like one of the things that are kind of the few things we can enjoy is like starting out at something you're really interested in. And then over time getting better and better and figuring out like how you make it your own
Starting point is 00:35:09 thing so yeah yeah i just just the apple just took a dump on all of our faces all of us are all the crafts people out there yeah like i think part of what initially didn't like had me not resisting it is that like i hate stuff at this point like being a parent and like you know my kids bring home so much stuff from school or like if they go to a birthday party there's just like you know junk drawer filler like that comes home with them like so like there's something that's enjoyable about the idea of like all what if all of that just got smashed down and like disappeared but then the thing you're like replacing it with is this like sleek looking illusion that is actually like as we talked about on monday's episode filled with like minerals that need to be like mined out of the earth by hand, by like,
Starting point is 00:36:05 yeah. Yeah. Slave labor or the equivalent. So yeah. Yeah. It's just a slick illusion. Yeah. It's wild though,
Starting point is 00:36:13 too, that like a lot of people have to like, just play it backwards, take and how effective it is in that sense. You're like, damn man, just, you could have reversed it.
Starting point is 00:36:22 It's here from a different flat. Yeah. Beautiful. It's like when the metaphor is pitched it kind of makes sense but like it is like truly the the direction i think of this piece there's there's a way to do something like this that's like i don't know less dystopian feeling like the other thing is like this this has a real like book burning vibe to it like it's a very fascist kind of like yeah like i don't know yeah right it's like the artisans
Starting point is 00:36:54 know nothing of what our future actually will hold fucking yeah yeah yeah this is like this is like some like bad guys like yeah the guy that's fucking trying to kill Roger Rabbit kind of vibes. Like, get the fuck out of here. Yeah. I think it could have even just been different if you just like crushed a bunch of tech, not like technological shit where it's like,
Starting point is 00:37:13 it's a TV, it's a computer, it's this other thing. Put it all together in like a whimsical, even if the press is a little like more, listen, I'm going to assume some very, very very very well compensated ad agency media arts lab to be specific probably i feel like that's who makes all their commercials
Starting point is 00:37:32 yeah that's such an la fucking thing i said i'm sorry i gotta go man i'm like calling out the production company that oh that was media arts lab you could actually tell like they're they have a very specific, auteuristic vision and sort of mise-en-scene that you're always going to, some very telltale signatures and visual flourishes. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Yeah, like, replace color with sleek black obelisk is very... Yeah, right. ...dystopian and... It's like white fasc fascist for sure. Why would you do this? What if the messiness of life was a slick black mirror that you held in your hand? All right, let's see.
Starting point is 00:38:14 Sex workers have gained historic labor rights in Belgium. In 2022, we talked about how Belgium became the first European country to decriminalize sex work. about how Belgium became the first European country to decriminalize sex work. And while sex workers have still faced a number of significant issues since then, Belgium has passed historic legislation approving employment contracts for sex workers following years of lobbying efforts. They will be entitled to health insurance, pensions, unemployment, family benefits, holidays, and maternity leave holy shit which is yeah i don't like that it's one of those things where like i couldn't have imagined like such a like that's just such a great outcome that like seems almost difficult to imagine in america you know yeah right where sex workers don't even count as
Starting point is 00:39:07 humans in the mainstream media like when they're talking about like crimes we were just talking about how like ai sex quote-unquote workers are have like like better chances of flourishing financially on the internet than human beings do yeah and it's also just wild to even look at in the context. I'm like, just in general, any worker in the United States being like, pensions? Unemployment? Family benefits? Parental leave?
Starting point is 00:39:35 Great. Yeah. It's also like having this be an on-the-record vote. It's like unfathomable. Yeah. It's so hard to imagine truly just these like fucking fucked up animals like in a zoo in america's really what do they have out there why you may other parts that i think a lot of politicians would really object to is that the
Starting point is 00:39:58 sex workers are guaranteed the quote right to refuse a client or a sexual act as well as the right to interrupt a sexual act at any time without fear of dismissal or punishment yeah i can't imagine that all the people in the senate and house would be on board with that one no oh my god i mean that's the thing it's just that we are just so just the way uh like congress is set up and just like legislation like legislative bodies across the country like the idea to be like and we are extending a humane view on something like this is just unfathomable and yeah it goes against what so many and even fucking democrats doesn't even matter like there's just still in america we just have such a stupid uh what's the word i'm
Starting point is 00:40:41 looking for there's like a like Perotanical? Yeah. No, yeah. It's a stupid-ass shit, dude. Oh, I know what you're trying to say. You're trying to say we got stupid-ass shit. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, that it's maligned in such a way that we're just unable to ever approach like a conversation about it creatively.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah. But yeah, again, sex work is real work. But yeah, I can sex work is real work. But yeah, I can know. Hats off to Belgium. Good for you. Even though we were just talking about the Congo, where Belgium definitely did a fucking number on that place. Not their best work. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:18 Sorry, Leopold. Sorry about that, Leopold. So, I mean, there are other places where sex work has been decriminalized like new zealand germany and the netherlands and so hopefully this will inspire similar regulations in those countries all right we'll take that but those governments have not set up a comparable legal framework but maybe this will inspire them to do so my biggest surprise, and maybe this is just me glorifying mentally the, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:41:50 the European social safety net. I guess I was a little surprised that these things were not de facto extended to all human beings in Belgium, I will say. But what do I know? Yeah, it's not a perfect country, man, just so you know.
Starting point is 00:42:06 So if you like it so bad, why don't you move there? All right. Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers,
Starting point is 00:42:50 church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.
Starting point is 00:43:22 And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice.
Starting point is 00:43:49 And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it, like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:44:34 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture.
Starting point is 00:45:13 Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. And so Warner Brothers, in an earnings call, CEO David Zaslav, the Zaz, as we call him on this show, we're big fans, specifically big fans of the fact that he fact that he doesn't seem like he can make a good decision.
Starting point is 00:45:48 He seems like, speaking of allergies, he seems allergic to making good decisions. But also, just for the extra flair, we're big fans of the time when he made everybody watch Fleabag on his yacht, but then paused it and was like,
Starting point is 00:46:04 this is too horny either we stop it now or we continue watching and nobody's allowed to look at me while i jack off or that's not how he put it he said or we like keep watching and nobody looks at each other which is such a weird weird request that i feel like has to be nobody looks at me while i jack off but anyways is hyping uh some stuff that i think is really going to be exciting to everybody listening and both of you guys he's hyping new streaming bundles specifically a bundle with max hulu and disney plus aka cable television without the regulations right yeah yeah but he, it does feel like this is a moment. Doesn't it, guys?
Starting point is 00:46:47 This feels like it's a moment? It feels like it does feel like this is a moment. In terms of what the next year, two years will bring, restructuring is underway in streaming. And the business will look a lot different in two to three years. It will be a lot better for consumers. three years it will be a lot better for
Starting point is 00:47:05 consumers yeah that's always what he's looking at classic yeah yeah holy shit dumb unintelligible names for everything oh man i mean we'll be that vest oh yeah are we just gonna fucking i mean honestly this is what we've been saying kind of like the absurdity of all the streaming is like, you know, Internet's the future. We're going to be right. It's this weird. I mean, I think the two parts of this episode that are so bizarre to me that I just don't relate to because I think it's stupid and wrong. Are these like tech people's obsession with the pipe, like the gear that makes something as opposed to what that thing is right i think i worked with people that genuinely assumed they would be running like creative development of
Starting point is 00:48:11 comedy central because they were the ones that were like building the websites and stuff and i'm like right you poor soul why and it was like well we know the internet and it's like yeah the internet is like a tube really like yeah genuinely like if you think that like to them it's the it's a delivery tube yeah yeah and so it was so bizarre that these people genuinely seem to believe this and i think they i guess they clearly still do and you know the people that pay them definitely still do because it's like i work at regal cinemas uh concessions and i'm just waiting for nolan to call me and ask me to star in his next picture he's gonna yeah he's gonna want to develop my
Starting point is 00:48:50 screenplay for sure it's got some pretty cool things yeah that yeah that is me i am the guy who fucked the dune bucket yeah you want to make my move no oh you asked me to leave okay sorry sorry i interrupted you andrew what were you gonna going to say? No, no, no. It's this thing where I think this fool genuinely believes that this stuff getting delivered via an app is
Starting point is 00:49:15 materially different for the consumer than cable. I think he genuinely believes this and it's some of the stupidest shit. But that's what's funny. But to your point, Andrew, right? Like the people who were working on that early stuff who believed it. Cause they're like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:29 cause I know this shit. But then the problem is these older or like people in like more senior leadership roles can't acknowledge they don't know it. So they go into the same energy. It's like, I know this shit and I'm not gonna, I'm not about to let you fucking rise up and tell me how this shit goes. It,
Starting point is 00:49:44 to me, it was this thing where it's like... Again, it was that people who were like, I don't know, essentially if they were at a tech company that were doing project managers, they'd be like, we're going to be the ones developing
Starting point is 00:49:59 Daily Show or whatever. Oh, yeah. You're not making that jump. But it's the same. It's the same as like Zaslav thinking he like it matters that if Zaslav likes a script or a movie,
Starting point is 00:50:11 it's like, yeah, I get you're in charge, but yeah, the fuck are you talking about? You have at no point like like exhibited any taste of any. Would you as somebody
Starting point is 00:50:22 who worked on a creative website that was owned by a company that was mainly focused on seo and had that was their area of expertise but they had notes for us on the creative stuff i have no idea what you're talking about never experienced any such thing can you make more for cheaper? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:46 Huh? That's not how the creative shit works. Do you think it could be like more funny, humorous, laugh a minute? At scale? Yeah. Yeah. How do we scale the laughs and the chuckles? We've got this other subsidiary brand that uses just like chatbots that come up with videos. And they do it for really cheap.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Like maybe you can do that for funny stuff too. I't know maybe you guys should meet them maybe you should meet them and pick their brain the chat bots yeah yeah yeah i can get it you want i can get it to me do a joke right now um if you want me to but i mean like it i i love that this this whole thing too on top of him being like yeah this is a moment. He's also just doubled back to fucking show how out of touch this whole fucking world is to be like, yeah, also announcing another live action Lord of the Rings movie. But this one is about Gollum. Yeah. And everyone's like, who gives a shit? This one's also from Peter Jackson, though.
Starting point is 00:51:44 And by that, I mean, he's not writing or he's not directing it. The thing that he's known for. He's just right with it. Yeah. Because it's going to be Andy Serkis, who's that's going to be interesting. Andy Serkis starring and directing the Gollum movie. That feels like a lot. Like, is he going to be like just hobbling around on a mocap stage?
Starting point is 00:52:04 And it's like,, alright, let me... I need to go to the video village to just see some playback. Yeah. You gotta save the character if you're going to direct it as followed. Let's go to the video village. Could somebody get me some banana pudding from the services?
Starting point is 00:52:22 Could somebody get me some banana pudding from the services? I will also just say, all these fucking studio heads who are pretending like all of their decisions now are dispassionate, data-driven bullshit, the spate of Lord of the Rings stuff really kind of, I think, should put a dagger in that idea. Because it's like, these guys are doing Lord of the Rings stuff really kind of, I think, should put a dagger in that idea.
Starting point is 00:52:46 Because it's like, these guys are doing Lord of the Rings. Amazon paid, you know, fucking what, multi-billion dollars for the IP? Most expensive thing ever made. Yeah. After Game of Thrones came out,
Starting point is 00:52:59 tells me two things. One is like, as expected, like the AI, all it can do is look at the past and it could tell you, yeah, Lord of the Rings did well, which, guess what? Any of us could tell you that. Yeah. Or, which I think, the thing that I think is actually happening,
Starting point is 00:53:14 which is, this is still driven by the preferences of, you know, nine white, mostly white guys. Like, they're doing this because the people that run these companies like Lord of the Rings because that's the shit they grew up on. And they're fucking nerds.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Which is fine, but pretending that these are masterful business decisions is like, this is just as much a passion project as anything else. It's just like, they have no imagination. It's just vaguely similar to a previous passion project that succeeded.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah, that at one time had passion behind it. Right. And is now just a diminished photocopy. This is a businessman's passion project. Right. Yeah. Like the Lord of the Rings Amazon Prime Video thing. I was shocked by how little it actually existed.
Starting point is 00:54:07 It had something like a 37% completion rate from people who started watching it. And I've genuinely, I've heard it's really good. I don't think this is about anyone making, but it is like throwing that kind of resource behind a thing and not greenlighting things or canceling things because of quote-unquote data doesn't all compute. Like, the thing is, and not greenlighting things or canceling things because of quote-unquote data,
Starting point is 00:54:26 doesn't all compute. Right. The thing is, if you're going to be quote-unquote data-driven, dispassionate masters of the universe, it has to be for everything. Yeah, it has to be cutthroat. It is beyond clear that this is just here because they like it. That's what I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:54:45 I'm sure whatever they probably had to pay to license that IP, they're like, we've got to fucking make something back. Sure. Oh, of course. We're so upside down on this now. Paying to license it for that price was purely based on passion. Again, a businessman's passion, but passion.
Starting point is 00:55:02 Don't pretend you're doing this because it's the best business decision. But don't pretend you're doing this because it's the best business decision. You just want to do it. It's just funny because the continued exploitation of this intellectual property, this IP, has only
Starting point is 00:55:18 just brought diminishing returns. They made a fucking Gollum video game last year, and it was universally acknowledged like this is one of the worst fucking video games of all time like you're just fucking goleming around and shit he's like the least interesting like you never you're like you know who i want to be in a video game this heroin addict who just slithers around in the fucking shadows like it's not a fucking fun game like the voiceover shit was so
Starting point is 00:55:46 off there's like for people who are like into youtube like game reviews this guy game donkey did like a really fucking hilariously scathing review of it and this shit it has a 36 on metacritic okay it's how bad this game is and it was so bad the fucking developers of the game had to apologize for the game being so shit. In their release, they quote, we would like to sincerely apologize for the underwhelming experience many of you have had with the Lord of Ring Gollum. First of all, in the letter of ring, they called it the Lord of ring colon golf hell yeah hell yeah the lord of ring dude i love it upon we acknowledge and deeply regret that the game did not meet the
Starting point is 00:56:32 expectations we set for ourselves or for our dedicated community please accept our sincere apologies for any disappointment this may have caused once again we deeply apologize for any inconvenience caused and we appreciate your understanding during this time. We will continue to keep you updated on our progress and provide a transplant. They're like, we're going to make it better. We're going to make it better.
Starting point is 00:56:51 It's like, you're not. They were so serious and so like devastated, like about this performance that they outsourced the writing of the apology letter to like a shitty AI. The Lord of Ring Gollum. Oh, it's like a real game. I would say this.
Starting point is 00:57:12 Listen, to any Zeitgang video game developers, I think like a 16-bit style fishing simulator with Gollum. Very fun. Exactly. Or like what's Gollum. Very fun. Yeah. Very fun.
Starting point is 00:57:27 What's Gollum good at? Just fucking hopping around in the mud finding weird shit. So Miles, to be fair to this project, and I do want to be fair to it, this is based on storylines yet to be told. So it's basically going to be stuff
Starting point is 00:57:43 that was from the first book that was omitted for brevity like that's i guess what happened with the prime show was like these were little like side projects or like you know based on manuscript stuff that like didn't get included to a large degree because again it's like the original like peter jackson he he had lots of hours to work with when he was making the lord of the rings and the hobbit series right he chose not to tell these fucking stories like his artist brain was like you know what story would actually fucking suck and we should just like cut that out is like nobody needs to know how Gollum got that way yeah we're like we get it
Starting point is 00:58:29 yeah especially like is it's not like he has any skills again that you're like he can fly or has super strength it's like this dude has like LeBron James hair and he fucking crawls around on all fours and like it's not fair to LeBron James's hair I mean look the Lakers are out and I'm pissed about it.
Starting point is 00:58:46 So I gotta, I gotta direct it to somebody. But yeah, I, again, this is just, it, it,
Starting point is 00:58:50 it, it blows my fucking mind, uh, that they keep trying to make this thing happen. Just let Lord of ring, Lord of ring Gollum, just go bye bye. And again,
Starting point is 00:59:00 like the idea that they're like, yeah, you know, there's all the scraps on the floor, the meat processing plant. Let's turn that into like a new product that everyone's gonna love it's called hot dog you know and here we go but i mean it worked for hot dog it did work for hot dog but i think that's truly yeah when we're talking about stuff on the like literally the editing room floor being like yeah this is so well also like, again, since those movies came out,
Starting point is 00:59:26 Game of Thrones happened. Like, it's so bizarre to go back to the older PG thing after the medium has clearly progressed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you know what part of Game of Thrones didn't work? Storylines yet to be told. Yep.
Starting point is 00:59:44 That was the part that really shit the vet. Let's do a feature length deleted scene. You won't have to worry about whether there's post-credit scenes on this because the entire thing is a post-credit
Starting point is 01:00:00 scene. Pretty soon Zaslav will be like, you know those outtakes? Those are pretty funny. Like when Andy breaks character. Let's just cobble. Can we string that together? Lord of Ring outtakes Gollum TM? Lord of Ring, the rest is still unwritten. The Lord of Ring.
Starting point is 01:00:16 The rest is still unwritten. Oh, God. Andrew T., what a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist. Thanks for having me. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Oh, man. Still, still, Yo, Is This Racist?
Starting point is 01:00:33 We got a premium show. It's fun. I don't know. Let's, don't, find me walking around. Like a Patreon? Yeah. Well, it's, yeah, it's at suboptimalpods.com. We have a show where we also
Starting point is 01:00:47 don't talk about race and stuff. Nice. It's the spoonful of sugar approach. There you go. Otherwise, they could just find you taking internal walks. If you could walk slow enough, you could find me.
Starting point is 01:01:04 I'm like the Flash, but you gotta be slow enough, you can find me. I'm like the Flash, but you gotta be slow enough. Taking walks near a water, as Marcella put it. Doesn't need to be a pool. Doesn't need to be an ocean. You can just be near a water of any kind. Is there a work of media that you've
Starting point is 01:01:20 been enjoying? I mean, I guess it's fucking Challengers. I don't know. Yeah. What's your take on the score? Because the second I saw it's Trent Reznor and Atticus, I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:34 It's more noticeably a Those Guys score than Oh, really? I guess The Killer had one. It's one of those things where you forget like working composers do lots of stuff in lots of different styles this is like oh yeah clearly these guys did this one right yeah look it's it's i will just say i was it was not the movie i was expecting by a million miles and it was much better than I thought it was going to be. And I thought it was going to be good.
Starting point is 01:02:06 That's great. Yeah. That makes me very excited. I liked it. Pretty good. I would watch it. But also watch The Last Slam Dunk. Okay, so I will just say,
Starting point is 01:02:14 because you guys are sports heads, both of those movies do a thing that I really liked. And I know other sports movies have done it, but this felt like there was an element of style above this. And I'm guessing they can't have been that inspired by each other, but maybe. Maybe.
Starting point is 01:02:31 Good as you know, saw it last time. But what they do is, they take two sports that are very, very televised, basketball and tennis. And they do a good job of finding other ways of shooting it. My favorite shots from both of those movies are basically a theoretical, your POV, the ball. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:02:54 Wow. Which is like, it's just like a thing you never, like no one would get to see ever. Such a bro moment Jack and I had. We're like, whoa, dude. What if I was ball? That's what the ball's going through, dude. What if I was Ball? That's what the Ball's doing to it. Andrew, what if I was Ball?
Starting point is 01:03:10 Me? Andrew, so we all know Ball is life. But what this film presupposes is what if I is Ball? Ball is he. But it truly, there's like two shots my favorite one
Starting point is 01:03:25 of those shots though is in Last Slam Dunk I won't I'll just give it away who gives a shit it's POV as if you're in the center of the ball
Starting point is 01:03:32 it's transparent and you're looking down on the tip off and it was like that's fucking cool yeah yeah yeah just like a cool shot that I was like
Starting point is 01:03:41 oh yeah it never really occurred to me that I wanted to see that but it's fucking cool that is was like, oh yeah, it never really occurred to me that I wanted to see that. But it was fucking cool. That is really cool. No way. Yeah, doing your thing.
Starting point is 01:03:49 I have a slam dunk jersey that I bought a knockoff one online that someone made. Oh, you can't buy a real one. Yeah, you got to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like a show hook like jersey. Anyway, they got him. Yeah, I did not watch the anime, but the movie is great. There are shocking similarities.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I truly, it's like, that's my double feature if I ever get to program one, is those two movies back to back. Amazing. Thank you so much for, you joined on such late notice. We really appreciate it. Absolutely, no problem.
Starting point is 01:04:18 The best. Anything to not write. I love not writing. That's how I go, hey, you got to write anything right now? Yeah? Hey, you want to come on DZ? Yes. You on assignment, man?
Starting point is 01:04:30 You on deadline? Yeah, yeah. The guests don't need to show up. We got Andrew. Andrew's on deadline. We're good for a week. I don't need a deadline. I just want to finish this fucking like, I've just been trying to write this fucking movie. Nice.
Starting point is 01:04:48 Miles. Mm-hmm. At Miles of Grey. What is the work of media you've been enjoying? At Miles of Grey. At Miles of Grey. At Miles of Grey.
Starting point is 01:04:57 And each time I said that, that was relating to a different platform. I tried to have continuity. I thought a beat was about to drop. At Miles of Grey. Ho.
Starting point is 01:05:05 And yeah, shout out to everybody who hit me up. If you want that Discord invite, just hit me up. I'll to have continuity at MilesLagrejo. And yeah, shout out to everybody who hit me up. If you want that Discord invite, just hit me up. I'll send it to you. I'm trying to get through everybody who's added me and DM'd me on Instagram and Twitter and the like, so you can join the community there on Discord. You can find Jack and I on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack. I'm at
Starting point is 01:05:20 Boosties. And you can also find me talking shit about 90 Day Fiance on 420 Day Fiance. I talk that shit. Some tweets I like. I got a few. First one, at Mitch's Diary tweeted, you know how some people brag about quitting smoking cold turkey? Well, I just picked it up.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Hot turkey. Straight into addiction. Stupid. Another one, at Cranky Nelson tweeted tweeted it's so wild that you can say the guy running for president who's suffering from major cognitive impairment and it doesn't narrow down who you're talking about even a little bit not one doesn't eliminate a single of the three major candidates um and then there's another one uh from at a underscore pseudonym. It's someone like it quote tweeted this old tweet from 2023.
Starting point is 01:06:08 It's of Joe Biden, like clearly coming off like the staircase of like Air Force One or something. And it said, can someone explain what actually happened here? And then they just quote tweeted, wasn't it on the beat, ho? It looked like he could walk. It's so stupid. It really does. Oh, my God. tweeted said wasn't it on the beat ho oh my god that's such a glorious image that's great let's see some tweets i've been enjoying at can't ever die uh congratulations to that person tweeted how do co do coworkers watch so much stuff? And that's something that I ask myself every day. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:06:55 You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes, where we link off to the information we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do you think people might enjoy this is a bit of like psychedelic jazz r&b from this group called cousin kula k-u-l-a they're from bristol in it uh it's called poisoned and it's
Starting point is 01:07:24 just like a dope it's kind of like a trippy. I don't know. Like I said, they describe their music as kind of like psychedelic, jazzy, R&B kind of thing. And that's just kind of the wave I'm on. Just like I'm on my, I still am on my drum and bass shit. But I still also need, I love to hear people play the actual instruments. And this is a great band. So again, Poisoned by Cousin Kula.
Starting point is 01:07:45 It's just a nice, you know, way go into your weekend and uh watch your wallpaper melt there you go all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast wherever you listen to your favorite shows that's gonna do it for us this morning we're back on monday to tell you what was trending over the weekend. We'll also come back with the greatest hits of the week, best of the week tomorrow. So you can stick around, check that out. Don't just like sit on the feet and wait for that. It'll be here tomorrow.
Starting point is 01:08:18 Go do, go live your life. Go live your life. You can come back. Live your life. But yeah, that's going to do it until then. Have a great weekend, everyone. Bye. Bye. Bye.
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