The Daily Zeitgeist - Everything Everywhere All At Woke, Stormy Daniels: Ghostbuster 03.28.23

Episode Date: March 29, 2023

In episode 1451, Miles and guest co-host, Andrew Ti, are joined by   In episode 1450, Miles and guest co-host, Andrew Ti, are joined by podcaster and author of Stash: My Life In Hiding, Laura Cathcart Robbins to discuss...the GOP's favorite catch-all dogwhistle, Mammoth meat from Down Under,  the many hats of Stormy Daniels, and much more! 1. Why Republicans Abandoned Their Economic Message | The New Republic 2. Meatball from long-extinct mammoth created by food firm | Meat industry | The Guardian 3. Meet Stormy Daniels's doll, Susan, who's haunted by the spirit of a girl who died in the 1960s | Daily Mail Online LISTEN: The Kii - GlobalSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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still a production no i love that thank you for the Howard Dean scream. A production of iHeartRadio. And this is also a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's sordid shared consciousness today. It's Wednesday, March 29th, 2023. You said, what's March 29th? It's National Mom and Pop Business Owners Day and National Pita Day and National Chiffon Cake Day. So if you imbibe or indulge in that. Oh, and also National Little Red Wagon Day. I never had one of those. So can't say I feel too good about that. Anyway, my name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. O'Brien Top of the Morning. I'm gonna chase you out of work. I'm gonna put on an iron shirt

and chase O'Brien out of work. I'm gonna set on an iron shirt And chase O'Brien out of work I'm gonna set him on a spring break To make those plumbers shake That's where Jack is. He's on spring break. Shout out to La Caroni on the Discord for that Max Romeo chase the devil, a.k.a. love that track. And yeah, just felt good to scream that out.

And I am thrilled to be joined by my guest co-host, a fantastic comedian, writer, producer, just a boxer. Even you do not want you do not want to catch these hands. I'm serious. This man is actually in the gym boxing. He doesn't really talk about a lot, but I've seen the hand speed and it will make your head spin. Please welcome to the microphone, my guest host, Mr. Andrew T. Where's Jack? Jack's in the no work groove i'm not jack but i got to give you your news oh that's as far as i got i like how before you're like hey i got an aka about jack being gone i just want to make sure it's not for anything anything bad or and i was like no no he's he's

loving spring break right now with his family so I was just like you know what I'm here I just wanted to triple check no I think it's good form because it would have been wild if you did that and I would have been like afterwards like yo hey Andrew we're gonna have to cut that aka out man it's wildly insensitive but you know yeah how you been man I'm good i'm alive you know just uh gearing up for the writers to go on strike so yeah that's fun yeah um and my dog has a butt infection so she's on a she's on a cone and antibiotics but is it is it receding the the the booty infection or is it i think it's i think it's gone but i'm just i'm keeping the cone on until the vet gives the all clear i thought of you uh last week my friend who was a fantastic chef made a picana but he smoked it first and then he reverse seared it and i was like oh

then i first i was like yeah man my boy andrew be cooking these all the time so i started cutting back a little bit i made some sukiyaki last night for the first time. Oh, you did? Yeah, I was going to say I'm cutting back on beef, but mostly just to add a lot of cabbage and mirin to the mix. Yeah, fine. It's all incremental. I'm doing meat-free stuff every now and then, too, as we should. But let's not delay things any further. We have a fantastic guest with us today.

Because, you know, I feel like we have a steady stream of of really really great people that have come to grace this second rate podcast uh with their genius uh our guest is an author freelance writer speaker and the host of the podcast the only one in the room which if you heard it sometimes we i we know that feeling for sure. For sure. And also the author of the new book, Stash My Life in Hiding. Please welcome to the proverbial stage. I guess I will say, Gloria Cathcart-Robin! Yay! Thank you.

You're welcome, Laura. I'm cheering for myself. Thank you very much. Good to have you. Good to have you. Yeah. Where are you coming to us from i i feel like from reading a little bit about you you're in the valley i am in studio city los

angeles yes my hometown you know right there yeah north hollywood baby you know what i mean i was mopping on the hunger village as a youth that's it that's where i am right there back when artisan or not uh what was that there was there used to be a wine shop no uh the the wine the wine store that closed down and then became a clothing store yes i don't remember what it was sandwiches they had good sandwiches i just go there wait it should be called the drip no wait it should be called uh what's a wine store and a clothing store oh yeah like a coffee store and a clothing store oh yeah yeah yeah there we go even better even better see thank you for punching up andrew's joke we've got to figure

it out we'll figure it out we'll get there see man this is why the writer's going on strike man this is what you're losing studios pay us what we're worth oh uh so yeah laura how you like in uh rainy la we had a little bit of a break. I just like to tell people when we're in L.A. because we had a streak of storms and the last four days we've had sun, but it's going right back to rain. Wednesday, Thursday. Have you liked our shift into becoming Seattle or no? You know, I appreciate the rain because I understand how badly it's needed. Right.

Because I understand how badly it's needed. Right. I worry about the driving in the rain. Not necessarily mine, but other people's. Like, people in L.A. drive, like, they're crazy when they drive in the rain. Yeah, we just, it's a mixture of confidence and ineptitude. Yes. That turns into the worst fucking thing ever. And arrogance, I think.

Yeah, yeah. I can just speed by you and I don't care if there's a pothole or I spray you or whatever. Or my tires have no tread on them anymore. Or my tires, and I'll just hydroplane across the lane real quick. Yeah, like, okay, well, you did that. It's like LA's general personality flaw made much worse. Yeah. Exactly, exactly, exactly. Well well laura we're gonna get

to know you even better but first we're gonna tell everybody the stories we're gonna talk about first just the all woke everything lens that the gop looks at things through it's just it's like i get before it's the point the culture wars and the cruelty is the point of how they feel that they're in power but like it's to the point where like they're ignoring polling, too. And you're like, who is this for? Are you guys stuck in this like feedback loop that you can't get out of? So we'll talk a little bit about that and how they've even pivoted to being even more heinous, especially around the shooting in Tennessee. Then we're going to talk about how, folks, I know you've been waiting for it.

You always want to know what woolly mammoth meat tasted like if you like me well guess what these two blokes in australia at the some company called val have brought woolly mammoth meat balls to the stage and we'll talk a little bit about how they did that why they're doing it you know for for good reason because obviously climate change uh and then we're gonna catch up with stormy dan I mean, obviously, she's back in the news with all the hush money payment stuff. But I didn't realize in between, like, I knew she was doing stand-up, but she has a lot of other ventures going on. So we will touch on those, including ghost busting. So, you know, shout out to the ghost busters, all of them out there.

But first, Laura Cathcart-Robbins, we got to ask you, our guest. What is something from your search history that's revealing a little something about who you are, what you're thinking about? I think the thing that's probably most revealing about my search history is that it's all one thing right now. It's stashed my life in hiding on Amazon, daily, minute by minute, refreshed to see what my standings are. I feel like I've not written a book, but I know a couple of people that have. And I feel like that is the only thing you can do when you put out a book because you're like, please, like, where are we at? Where are we at? Please tell me where are we at?

Did this move the needle? Did that move the needle? Yeah. It's like I tell myself I'm not going to do it. It's very much like my addiction, which I wrote about. I'm not going like i i tell myself i'm not gonna do it it's very much like my addiction which i wrote about i'm not gonna do it i'm not gonna do it and then i look back at my history and i'm like all day all day that's all i did yeah look for my book but it's good you're like a day trader but for your own words right yeah yes yeah you're not undercutting the little guy you're like go, go me, please, please, please.

Uh, until, I mean, uh, I think that, you know, I've only read like some of the reviews and sort of the top line stuff about it, but I think it's, you know, the talks about just sort of your, again, your, your journey with addiction and sobriety and just like the intersection of privilege and race and all of these things. When I, when I just was like reading the little bit about it, I was like, this sounds really fascinating. I mean, can you tell us a little bit about kind of, you know, where, where you started and where you're at? Yeah. I mean, thank you. Thank you for that. The Stash My Life in Hiding covers a 10 month period in the year 2008. And I think the thing that it's an addiction memoir, but it's also about divorce. It's also about motherhood. It's also about falling in love, which comes a little bit toward the end. And I think the thing that makes it unique is the thing you just touched on

is that it comes from that intersection of race, because it's a story written by me, a black woman, about an addiction that doesn't involve drug dens and prostitution and childhood sexual trauma. And it comes from this place of privilege. And it's also, it's an addiction story, race, and what's the other one? Addiction, race, and privilege. Yeah. So those three things. And what I found was there are lots of stories that are addiction memoirs. There are lots of mostly written by white women. The ones that are written by black women usually involve those three things I listed. And like, I'm not saying that my story is any better than anybody else's by far. Those stories are thrilling

and I loved reading them, but I didn't identify with them. So I think, I don't think, I know, there were no comparisons for my book when I wrote it. There's nothing out there like it. So that's what makes it unique. Yeah. I mean, it was striking just from like the sort of synopsis of, you know, that you were elaborately scheduling withdrawals between PTA meetings and things like that, or hiding pills in your red bottoms. I was just like, this is fascinating. And yeah, to your point, I feel like we're, I guess like the stories we hear a lot

are not necessarily looking at it from your perspective. Not to say that's a bad thing, but yeah, to your point that you felt that your story had a place to be heard. And I think it's fantastic. Yeah. Thank you. It's so nice that, yeah, there's like diversity in every type of story and we're like starting to finally get to hear things like that. That's so great. Thank you. It's so nice that, yeah, there's like diversity in every type of story and we're

like starting to finally get to hear things like that. That's so great. Thank you. Thank you. Was there ever a thing like with publishers who were kind of like, do you have something that's more in line with like stereotypes about black women that we know about? Like, cause I know like with entertainment, like to your point, Andrew, you know what I mean? Like you try and represent your culture in a diverse way. And then some people who are gatekeeping who don't understand that like can we just regress to the the old thing but was it was it easy or or what was that sort of path like you know uh to my advantage i pitched this during the summer of of 2020 and we were having a moment yeah in publishing it was like the first time in my memory that all black authors were in the top 10 of the best-selling list because everybody was trying to educate

themselves about being an anti-racist etc etc and learn as much as they could about black culture so publishers were hungry for stories by black people, period. I think they did get excited about mine because it was unique and they felt like they might be able to pull in a different audience than they had with other previous black addiction memoirs. Right, right. That's fantastic. Let's move on to our next question. What is something you think is overrated? College degrees. Okay, go on.

So I didn't graduate from high school i didn't go to college and i'm not i'm not bragging about that but you know i i i had well and i wrote about this in my book i lied about it all the time in order to get jobs i said i was george santos basically like i said fake it till you said. Fake it till you make it. Fake it till you make it. I padded my resume because I wouldn't have gotten the job without it. But I was, without that on-paper qualification, I was still qualified to do the job. I had the experience. I understood how to do it.

I'm a quick learner. Like, I educated myself about the position before I got it and then went all in. And I did really well. So I don't think I needed that piece of paper in order to do the job, but there's, there's this consensus that we do need that. And a lot of people in my family that are successful don't have college degrees and I'm not discouraging anyone from getting it, but I do think they're overrated. Yeah. Well, I think there's just like this disconnect to where there's this emphasis about having it yet it's so hard to attain or in a way that doesn't potentially fuck you up for decades to come yeah yeah yeah i get that it's like

that so many people now like i was just talking to somebody i was watching like the final four tournament and i was like i was like i almost went to the like my like almost went to university of miami because like i got in in my mind i was like yo i'm gonna fucking party in miami for college then i saw what it costs and i'm like i'm gonna keep my ass in the fucking state because i do i absolutely couldn't especially when i saw my other friends taking on loans and like what the payback sort of structure looked like i was frightened to the point where I was almost like, I know I want to get into comedy and shit, but like my grandparents and my parents voice rang in my head. They're like, look, if you could go for it and if you fuck up, at least you could teach history because you have that degree. And I'm like, that was and I would do that if things shook out a different way.

So I kind of I see that. Yeah, it's so because it's like nominally it's supposed to be like proof that you did something or you accomplish something or at a level. But like because of the way the world works, there's so much variance and what that fucking piece of paper means. Like, I feel like like I did unfortunately go to like a nice college and like truly the only thing I learned from that college that I find was valuable was that rich kids are not only not better than you, they are actively worse than you. They are the dumbest people on earth. And we all have the same piece of paper at the end of the day. Right. That's hilarious. I just like to, like, I always think about when, you know, you have a resume or whatever,

and they ask for like your education. You you're like how many times has anyone ever actually bothered to check up on that unless like you came in and they like you were so flagrant with it they're like there's no way this person has like a master's from whatever college but right right other than that like to your point i'm like yeah just fake it till you make it you know i don't even know where my diploma is oh i didn't get one yeah i didn't go i didn't even walk yeah you didn't get a diploma no i was so old man i look i was so over academia because part of me was like what like i was already becoming like this cynical person about like what a degree meant and i'm like but and then i had like survivors go i'm like how come i can get a degree but these other kids

can't get a degree and then they gotta do this and then they go up in the job like and then we're all going up in the same job interview where you like you need 17 years of experience for this job and you're like i'm 17 though yeah uh you know and it's just like yes so anyway all that to say is when my it was it's ucla so it was hot in la in the summer like beginning and it was all going to be outdoors and i asked my parents so i was like you want to wait out there like to be called amongst hundreds of names and they're like if you don't care we don't care and i'm like i don't care man if you want it we can buy the diploma but that's more money and i would rather just stop giving this uc system my money yes so i can walk yeah that way i could walk head first in 2007 into a recession with my degree

hey i got this degree to enter the middle well what the fuck is happening which is yeah it's very i talk about this a lot with other millennials about how like especially like there's so many people who get so down like because everything is so difficult to attain right now for younger people and we're fed this thing of like, well, you should be doing this by now. Without understanding how uniquely of a shitty situation we came of age in where it was almost like, oh, yeah, I was standing on the rug as it was getting yanked out. What's something you think is underrated, Laura? Well, this kind of relates to the woolly mammoth meatballs. Okay.

So I'm glad. Okay. But plant-based diet. Mm-hmm. I think it's underrated. I'm a plant-based person, and I think people throw me a lot of shade because of it. Like, I'm sober, right? I've been sober for almost 15 years, so I don't drink or imbibe in anything.

And socially that that's one kind of thing, right? So you're not going to offer me the same kind of drink. I'm not going to share that bottle of wine with you. But then to be a plant-based eater too, it's like, we don't even want to have dinner with you, basically. You're not even going to like eat the good food and you're not gonna drink like it's just we'll meet later for coffee or something it's funny i had a thing so my friend one of my best friends her husband is just like a straight edge dude from like og straight edge

guy from youth but then just turned into just being sober basically into adulthood and also vegan and i remember when they first started dating we were in our early 20s i'm like yo he's straight as vegan the fuck we how the fuck we gonna get down with him like we're drunk as fuck eating meat and then you begin to realize like how one dimensional like you think that like what that shit is because over time we're like i'm like always like like he put me onto so many vegan things and like opened my mind just from like hanging out so i definitely underrated all of that because yes i become more like in tune with my own health uh and like the earth i'm like yeah yeah you don't

have to fucking go ride or die for eating cows like uh i thought i did when i was much younger but yeah but that's like such a like also like as your personality grows past like what are you doing tacos and beer like just like every night you know or whatever like it's just like you know we can also grow from that yeah you know no matter where you start yeah no it's to the point now where like if i grill hamburgers i only eat like uh impossible yeah i don't do like beef burgers anymore that's just they i don't know like because i had it at umami when they were doing impossible and the way they were doing it i was like this shit is no different than mcdonald's quote-unquote

beef in my mouth so right the fuck i need to do this for anymore uh so i'm all i'm all on that although look i'm gonna add cheese okay yeah? Yeah. My guilty, not guilty pleasure, obviously, but like the fucking impossible Whopper is so good. Is it? Is that good? Well, part of it is that you realize that the taste of the Whopper is just mayonnaise and

raw onion. Everything else is sort of irrelevant. It's not a vegan burger, but it is like there is no need for beef to be in there. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

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when they took control of the house you know they vowed to go scorched earth on our asses you know that there would be so many investigations our heads would spin and the revelations would destroy the biden administration for decades or whatever like they you know like they did with the benghazi stuff so we're a few months into the new congress and though multiple hearings have rendered not much at the moment now there's look i'm not all that to say there is definitely still time for them to figure out if there really is a massive conspiracy to silence conservatives online or just how huge hunter biden's ball sack is but as it stands uh even the things they are claiming are revelatory just aren't catching on and naturally

the polling shows that like while the republicans that are polled don't quite move the needle in terms of like hey do you think this is a waste of fucking time or an overreach or like they could be doing something better uh democrats and independents especially are like independents especially are being like what the fuck is this like this it's not even a like inflation is so bad but this is the thing that they're devoting the time to and it's all just kind of part of this current iteration of the party that we've seen that's come lost complete sense onto how to even govern or even create legislation that isn't part of like their batshit, you know, anti-woke culture war. So they had a really good opportunity with the Silicon Valley bank collapse, you know, because you saw some of the conservatives on Capitol Hill begin to question like the idea

of bailouts and who actually pays for the transgressions of the investor or banking class who is the one who is really footing that bill and is it right uh but they maybe asked two questions and then went fucking all in on the there were too many women and people of color on the board so their wokeness caused high interest rates and a bank run, which is kind of where you're left. And this tendency has become so reflexive that it feels like the party is guided, obviously, more by what's getting clicks and views on Fox News versus like what their own polling tells them. Because even when you poll Republicans, their biggest concern is the economy. Morals and values pulled at one percent. But again, this is part and parcel of what we're

seeing at the moment the other way to look at this though is like especially on economic stuff and i guess this is shade at biden like yeah they're not that different no no not at all so they're just hitting the their point of difference which is i guess a marketing strategy that is justifiable this is the thing like at least at least democrats will put a kente cloth and kneel on capitol hill because they look at expanding a voter base the republicans are like i don't know man let's how many more can we shed by just like turning the pot up higher but again it all probably speaks to like their singular march towards upending like the democratic process where it's not going to matter if they have the numbers.

They just want the more angry people. Yeah, they just have been built on, you know, a fervor of apartheid rule and they just need their apartheid minority to be passionate. And even though like, did you see the Waco, the rally? Like he was, they were losing energy out there i was like shit bro donald like you gotta come home baby they're like he's the red for that one black guy behind him oh yeah there's always like those two guys the one with the the relaxed ponytail yeah yeah yeah that's my man right there i always see him like wow like is it like following the grateful dead

or is he like on a retainer as like a set decoration i'm not sure yeah does that fall into the prop masters guild uh anyway i i i mean wasn't it was i guess this is maybe just me reading my part of twitter too much but wasn't it like shown that those people are like hey it's like involved in a murder. Oh, really? No, there was one guy for blacks for Trump. I remember who they're like, yo, he's got this. He's connected to some weird stuff going on. And people are like, do they even vet these people?

Because, again, they're just looking for literal physical like black bodies. Yeah. How could they vet someone? They don't they're not turning black people away at the Trump rally. No. I mean, again, they might be looking for wherever they can find them on the Internet. And so this pattern, right, has extended into the shooting in Tennessee now where the GOP is using this like woke like what is woke? Woke is bad. That's why a bank crashed, not because of the lack of regulation and the greed of like the people who are running it. not because of the lack of regulation and the greed of like the people who are running it to begin to fuel a discussion on how the far left needs to understand that being a transgender

person is a mental issue and yet despite their cries of like mental health crisis which is their go-to to not enact any gun control you always notice they aren't now saying that trans people need more mental health support no is that so again okay so it's just to say i just want to avoid the conversation about gun control and this is the thing like to underline the point about the democrats and the republicans i'm not getting much from the democrats either outside of we need gun reform yeah we've been yeah we know we need gun reform like we understand that but where is the actual like aggressive energy to address it?

Otherwise you're just revealing how much you're in the tank for like the gun lobby or your unwillingness to really to grapple with it. And like, I saw a lot of coverage that was like victim centered coverage about who these six people who lost their lives were. And it's tragic. These three children and these three adults,

I don't have an issue with that. but if you're not following this kind of coverage of pulling at our heartstrings about the loss of life by forcefully calling for real gun control and actually saying like we need to stop saying the same empty you know sayings we've been saying then really it's an utter failure that like you know it's hardly a fitting tribute to those people and i was just as i was watching this it was really hard to see like how like some of these anchors and tv pundits would like breathlessly like be like yeah you know there is talk though too that we could have more perimeter security uh that's needed at our schools or that we you know this school didn't have a police officer there because it was like in a

church setting, blah, blah, blah, that we're not, it's not a substantive debate about like our sick obsession with guns and like, you know,

that, and also our, or the, the reflex of people to just hide behind the constitution to just not actually have like a conversation about human life. Yeah. It's like our constitution was written by a bunch of racists who'd never seen a bullet before so come on hey they had to melt their pewter down

into musket balls okay i won't have you slay i won't have you slagging them off they had to give up their fine pewter trays listen if you're like a school if a school shooter had to like set up a little like kill and melt their little musket balls to get ready to do their shit that seems like a compromise yeah i don't know i just like as i you know just see countless like heartbroken parents over and over like step up to like a you know an assortment of microphones and say the same thing you'd like it's it's it's as you get in this like really fucked up like rage loop where you're like i know and then they're gonna come on and say that like you know there's a there's a senator in tennessee or congressman in tennessee who

quite literally said well there's nothing we can really do about it right yeah like yeah i'm sorry what he said i don't see any real role that we could do other than mess things up and then before and then again his like first thing was like yeah we're not going to fix it we're not going to be able to and you get and then on the other side it's just this hand wringing without any real like are we really ready to upend the status quo the answer consistently seems to be no yeah i have a conservative friend who's a gun enthusiast and I follow him and a few of his friends on Instagram. And the consensus between them seems to be that,

one, we've gone too far to ever go back. So how do we deal with what we have while we keep our guns? And their answer seems to be to arm everybody. Right. Like if everybody had a gun, then we would be a much safer nation. Yeah. And they really think it's two separate issues.

Like they think that the mental illness that gets people killed has nothing to do with the access to guns. And to me, it's so frustrating. Yeah. But I follow them because I want to know what's being said, you know? Yeah, no, absolutely.

I follow plenty of conservatives and see the exact same thing. I mean, let me just play the comments here of Congressman Burkett, who's from Tennessee, because his basic talking point is the same thing as in line with, he's like, I mean, what are you going to do, man? Do you think there's any role for Congress

to play in reaction to this tragedy? Obviously, this is your state now, but it's happened in every other state. Oh, it's happened. It doesn't matter what state it's happened in. It's for all Americans. It doesn't matter the color of their skin. They all bleed red.

They're bleeding a lot. I don't see any real role that we could do other than mess things up, honestly, because of the situation. Like I said, I don't think a criminal's going to stop from guns. You know, you can print them out on the computer now 3d printing and there's really i don't think you're going to

stop the gun violence i think you've got to change people's hearts you know as a christian as we talk about in the church okay there you go enough of that didn't need that pivot to christ there unless christ is going to turn the guns into medical care uh i don't know what we're gonna do with that but yeah you heard like it's like this i don't know the cat's out of the bag kind of thing and it's what's interesting too is you know he talks about he has a little girl too and the reporter said well then what else can be done to protect children like your little girl he said oh well we homeschool her oh yeah really disgusting extra wrinkle yeah it's like trying to also destroy public schools great yeah you fucking like every layer there is like because you know we're not about

to teach her things like rosa parks was a black woman because we don't think that's important we just know that she someone told her to get out of her seat on the bus and she said no and she's a hero for that which is why you should be an asshole to other people if they ask you to give up your seat on a bus which that's the moral of it right it's yeah and why did you bring up race when she said um like this is happening in your state and you said well we're all americans it doesn't matter what color you are like why did he say that i think because they're they're all so racist that it's just a reflect they have to be like it's a reflex right yeah it's just been like well i know it's gonna come off as i only care about maybe white people look we're all we're all american we all bleed red black brown purple you know magenta right well

bleed red so it's also like these like conservatives all never put their fucking money where their mouth is like oh it's the safest the safest society if everyone has a gun. Go to any failed state, then, and live. You want libertarianism? There's no rules in many of the countries America's destroyed. Go set up shop there. You piece of shit. Hopefully you get there if it's that tough.

And that's what's so funny. If freedom is so important. Well, they all, and this is everybody that's a politician politician they speak like they live in the world that other like the normal people do yet this guy is someone who is a member of congress who has i'm assuming enough wealth to have like you know like a stay-at-home family and homeschool their child and afford themselves all these little advantages but then not understand what it means to not have those and then just talk shit about them you'll be like hey this is a great place i mean i'm not actually subjected to the dangers of the world i'm commenting and won't do anything about but

i believe it's okay all right and i think that's it's yeah it's very very frustrating um let's take a quick pivot uh as we do on this show to woolly mammoths uh just this let's take a quick pivot, uh, as we do on this show to woolly mammoths. Uh, just this, let's take a quick breath here. So if you were a fan of the Flintstones, uh, like I was, and, uh, you wanted to eat a whole side of dinosaur or rib, uh, now you can have meatballs that are made of woolly mammoth meat. Kind of, kind of. Okay. meatballs that are made of woolly mammoth meat kind of kind of okay so this australian company

vow has made mammoth meat entirely grown from cells so it didn't obviously require her traveling back in time and slaughtering a prehistoric creature like i hoped it did but that would have hooked up the space-time continuum. So, could you imagine that as a film, though? I mean, listen. They fucked up with the movie 65. 65 should have been like a catch-and-cook from YouTube. Wait, what's 65?

65 is the flop, recently flopped-ish movie that was like Adam Driver crash-lances a spaceship, and there's scary monsters out there, and they're dinosaurs. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, I remember that. driver crash lands his spaceship and there's like scary monsters out there and they're dinosaurs oh really i'm just saying i remember i did it yeah the movie did not do well i love the trailer i haven't seen it yet but i'm guessing there isn't a scene where after he kills a dinosaur he kind of looks around it's like i'm gonna try a bite yeah exactly they're like good thing our wait is this guy timed he's a time traveler though i think it's not supposed to be i didn't i don't know what the twist is for the purposes of this bit i hope

he's a time traveler but he's also like he brings seasonings with him because in the back of his mind he's like you never know there might be some shit you could eat that you won't be able to that's true if you land on an alien planet you just got to try a little just a taste would you you have to you think so i think i would eat a dinosaur yeah like i don't have a i'm like i get that like if i'm you know if i'm already traveling in time i'm probably fucked anyways i'm like fuck it let's have a bite of this like raptor foot but like an alien that's where in my mind i go that feels like a bridge too far because i don't know if our biology is, it could be poison to me.

But I don't know why I think eating a raptor, but again, this is me being so stupid that I'm like, but a raptor? See, that's okay. That's good eating. I'm just saying like every time in one of those alien movies, it's like, oh, like, oh, I was assaulted

and like, you know, not as, you know, whatever, just like attacked by the thing and then, you know, turned into an alien. And I think given how we've seen how real people react to various pandemics and diseases, if aliens invaded or we were at a spaceship that found alien eggs,

there's no caution. Someone would just straight up eat it. I know. They're like, wait, what's all over your mouth and why are one of the eggs missing? Huh? Oh. It burns a little bit oh my god better than it looks though so it turns out they much to our dismay are not time travelers um so boo all that but really they want it they're really trying to show the potential of what like meat grown from cells, what you can do exactly without obviously the slaughterhouses and the large scale agricultural or livestock operations that are causing a lot of environmental problems.

So they've also been doing this thing. They've been investing in making cultivated meat out of other species, including crocodiles, peacocks, and kangaroos. But the first one that apparently be sold to like the public is going to be Japanese quail, uh, which will be available like later this year, like in Asia somewhere.

But apparently like, so again, this is about their publicity stunt to basically say like we had enough DNA sequence that we could kind of extrapolate something that we could say was woolly mammoth uh like so what they did was they quote use the dna sequence for mammoth myoglobin and they filled in the gaps with elephant dna and then placed it in a myoblast stem cell from sheep i don't know what any of those words mean uh but they they're they're quote what they said it was quote all ridiculously easy and fast that doesn't sound like something i want to eat

i got in a little trouble with some of my friends like in probably 2018 2019 when everyone's doing 23 and me and i was like because i I majored in biology in college and when you do those labs, I was like, you know, you can sequence your own DNA. And everyone was clowning on me like, fuck you, what are you talking about? And here's the thing. It is complicated but every time you've

done one of those COVID tests in the last three years, that's essentially what you need to do to sequence DNA. We could all do it. Yeah, it's like a swab and you put it in an enzyme and then there's different

weights. Then you have to put it in a PCR tube, a polymerase chain reaction tube, obviously, put that into a centrifuge. Yes, we've all done this. But that's the thing. We have! A lot of kids have. I remember, I'm like yeah pcr a polymerase chain reaction tube it's so funny those little vials i stole because i thought it'd be cool to put like drugs in them because they're the little pop tops and like yeah things in there yeah that's

actually good that's where my stupid ass mind was in high school aside from stealing the digital scales for my own weighing that's what i'm saying good enough but now all that all those digital scales are like 20 on it's just like all that shit you can i promise you you could do it um anyway so that's okay hold on but i'm interested how but how is it gonna how do i spin on a thing and then it tells me i'm portuguese suddenly um i mean it's just a matter of looking up the right you're trying to find the genes that tell you that shit. Or I guess in 23 Meeks case, they just find as many genes as they look for. And then they match it with the number of people who have this that are Portuguese or whatever. Could I do a 23 and Andrew T?

Where you'll see. I trust you to sequence my DNA. I don't trust them. I'm just saying we all could do it. If you could put drops of liquid into a little tube, shake it up, and then pipette that onto a little

piece of paper, you could do it. I'm just saying, the physical skills to do it, every one of us has done it. But we don't have a micropipette and things like that. That shit is cheaper than've done a micro-pipette. But we don't have a micro-pipette and things like that, so maybe that's what they're going to get. But that shit is cheaper than you think. A micro-pipette, see?

I'm learning Tanita digital scales are like three bucks now, and a micro-pipette is like a... You can go on eBay and get some old-ass centrifuges for way less than you should be able to. Or just tie it on a string and just whip it around your head. Sorry, that was my big derail.

But when they say it's easier than you think, I bet it genuinely is easier than you think. Yeah, I guess I like that. Or I thought it was maybe like a bit of Aussie humor where they're like, oh yeah, it might make it be the mammoth mate. It's just so ridiculously easy in face. So does it have cholesterol? Does the meat have cholesterol?

I don't know. It probably does, right? Yeah, on some level. So it's slaughter-free, but it still is meat. It's grown from a cell, but it doesn't require raising any live animals. And doesn't have parents. No. They're like, hey, we just got this DNA right here, and then we put it with a myoblast stem cell with the meat. Look, I'll eat it.

The stem cell came from a living sheep, but that sheep wasn't killed. Probably. Hey, unless you ask a GOP politician, which is like, we will not use sheep stem cells to make our meat here. Yeah, like maybe probably in reality, this sheep was killed. But, you know, you could do it. Like, take the bone marrow out of a thing. People do it all the time. Not all the time, all the time. Have you done it, 23andMe?

Yeah. No. I wouldn't. I could do that shit myself. I'm too cheap for you, 23andMe. I would do it myself. Okay. You know what, asshole?

Now you have to do it. You're going to be like, I don't have to do it you're gonna be like i don't have to i could do it myself and don't be a don't put your money where your mouth is now let the i would look into it i i did i did at drunk at a bar get as far as being like all right this the centrifuge is only like 280 bucks from like uc irvine i just have to drive out and get it of UC Irvine. I just have to drive out and get it. Wait, Lauren, did you say you had it? Not only have I,

I've done 23andMe, but my boyfriend has done it three times and they refunded his money because they could not assess his sample. Yeah. They sent him replacement kits twice and then the third time they sent him back his money

and they're basically like, we can't help you. Damn. Isn't that weird? This makes your boyfriend one of the most interesting fucking people I've ever heard about now. Yeah. I like at a DNA lab.

It was like, uh, we throw up our hands. Yeah. They're like, yeah, this sounds like a great beginning to like a movie. Yeah.

Right. I haven't. It's's funny because I just found like I got an old ass kit like five years ago like in a gift bag for some like industry party I went to but at the time I was like I ain't fucking giving them my DNA so they sell

it to Pfizer or whatever the fuck but I don't know I think part of me is kind of interested. The one I'm more interested in is the African ancestry one because I would love more specifically to know like where in Africa, like, you know, all of my ancestors were coming from.

But that I need a female relative because that's the gene that it's stored in. It couldn't be me. So I'm talking to my cousin in Chicago about figuring out how to do that. But it does interest me because it is some, it is very interesting when you like,

especially for people who like, it opens up family secrets, not bad in a bad way, but sometimes you hear people and be like, oh yeah. Like your great, great grandfather was like white. And I thought we were like,

you know, I probably can't say any details, but yeah, I had a friend who discovered some pretty insane shit about his family. Oh, yeah? Like, yeah. I know plenty of stories. Like, even people, I think, Andrew, you and I know, where next thing you know, it's like, knock, knock.

And it's like, uh-huh. And they're like, um... Yeah, you don't want that. I found you. And then it's like, oh, shit. Uh-uh. But, look, I get it. It's...

It's complicated. Oh, especially for, like for like you know men from past eras they're like i didn't think it was gonna be like digital like i would digitally get caught out there with my secret families but i've heard more than a few secret family exposed type things yeah yeah yeah um i i'm realizing now because my i never my grandpa, but he just during World War II pretended to have died, started a secret family, and then just showed back up in my grandma's life. And we're all just like, man, you're really lucky 23andMe isn't around, you fucking old asshole. Editor Brian just came in the chat and said, you can buy a centrifuge slash PCR machine for $800. There you go. Boom. 23 and T.

Whatever 23 and B is charging, I'm like, you know, $8 less. Go to all the comedians and writers that we know and just being like, yo, you know, I'll sequence you. I bet you could get that thing paid for within six people. Listen. Yeah. Oh, and this is like a nice one.

I'm talking about like used equipment from ucla i think i think you could get it cheaper i think we could do that sounds like you're trying to encourage me to go to ucla bio lab and start stealing a fucking pcr machine i'm just saying you've stolen other shit from there so what where's the crime at a certain point yeah i'd be taking from them because for years they'd be taking from me that's what tupac said uh all right let's take a quick break and we'll be right back to talk about the new stormy daniels i've been thinking about you i want you back in my life. It's too late for that.

I have a proposal for you. Come up here and document my project. All you need to do is record everything like you always do. One session. 24 hours. BPM 110. 120. She's terrified. Should we wake her up? Absolutely not. What was that?

You didn't figure it out? I think I need to hear you say it. That was live audio of a woman's nightmare. This machine is approved and everything? You're allowed to be doing this? We passed the review board a year ago. We're not hurting people. There's nothing dangerous about what you're doing.

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and a little bit of the spice of conspiracy theories that we liked voila you got straight away i felt like i was living in north korea but worse if that's possible listen to spiraled on the iheart radio app apple podcasts or wherever you get your and we're back and what a story we just heard from andrew folks you gotta be there you gotta be there it involved the biden's i'm just gonna say that i'm just gonna say i didn't realize that you were so close with them uh but speaking of politics or i guess ancillary or tertiary secondary characters around the world of politics. Stormy Daniels. But I guess no primary figure right now because of the, you know, the payout story, which I don't know, may lead to the first ever criminal indictment of a former U.S. president. And I really stress may.

Yeah. So unsatisfying, even if I felt like part of me is almost like I feel like that tweet from Donald Trump was like helping out like the Department of Justice, too, because I was like, are you going to do something? He's like, I might get arrested. And then everybody's like, yeah, like, well, he just said that he's afraid he is. OK, and I think it only probably could be because he's had to, like, testify so many times or the threat of it. like testify so many times or the threat of it but anyway it's look we we wait with bated breath but there will be no uh i guess celebrating until it's like you're like is it for real is okay let me see a non-ai version of his like hairstyle being blown away by the wind uh because that will be something but anyway let's talk about stormy daniels uh because while i was gone jack

was saying like he felt like the news cycle just feels like a like a tv show that's like retreading like tired material because they run out of ideas it's like stormy daniels is back like what i thought that character got written off like three years ago but again if this were a tv show the character has come back and has become a late season riverdale levels of strange as our writer J.M. McNabb puts. I don't know much about Riverdale except I think the teachers, the only episode I saw, one of the teachers was having sex with a student, but the parents reaction was just for them to get out of town. It's a weird show. I haven't watched all of it, but it's a weird show. Now everyone in the chat, Becca's like, it's gotten wild. There's magic involved now. I'm like, magic?

I've heard that, yeah. I mean, in the comics, Archie fights the Punisher once or twice. No. Shit is crazy. Does he really fight the Punisher? Apparently, I haven't read it, but apparently

the Archie versus the Punisher is like sort of a tour de force in that no one really breaks character. There's quite literally Archie meets the Punisher. Everyone just is who they are. I like how Archie's saying, I knew there'd be a

chaperone, but this is ridiculous. Anyway, that's the crossover I want to ridiculous anyway that's the crossover I want to see yeah it's the crossover we want to see it's the crossover that we all deserve but so since like the Trump stuff has come out we've seen her do stand up like in 2019

I remember we touched on that she like she was like doing a whole tour and like selling out rooms like with her you know look beginner material but look all it's about getting on mike and figured you know finding yourself up there which she did and was selling out say so good on you uh but then has like a merchandising business including a sci-fi comic book series in which she battles a trump like villain yeah this is not a joke it's called stormy daniel's space force and if you look at this like version of trump like it's him but like with like the worst like punk rock metal hair i don't know

i think it would look good on him he did that for real he's so good he doesn't have he doesn't have the follicular fortitude to even pull that kind of design off yeah he'd have to get like some like marvel level like like foam pasted on his head it looks good oh could you imagine he really does that and people like oh yeah i mean it's giving thanos but yeah i love it i love that for him uh but yeah again this is like part of a full force sort of like let me try and get these bags like right as much as possible. And then she also appeared on the reboot of The Surreal Life. Remember that old VH1 hit? That's crazy.

I remember seeing the promos for it, but very quickly it bummed me out because it was like, check out Stormy Daniels alongside Frankie Munez, who's had so many concussions, he doesn't remember most of his life, and Dennis Rodman, and, like, Tamar Braxton. And I was like, eh.

It's so weird how I've lost the appetite for the surreal life, too. Like, when it came out, I was like, let me see these people. Like, what's going on with them? And I think now is, like, you begin to understand more and more celebrities are just normal people

that are usually like sad. I mean, Twitter and TikTok really ate that material. Because there's nothing new for these people to be weird about anymore. Right. Just weird in public. You know, I know. I saw it on Instagram. So the other thing is that we found out is that she's like, I use this term lightly, a ghost buster.

He's like, I use this term lightly, a ghostbuster. Because during the, so, you know, Michael Avenatti, her pit bull lawyer, the fighter who was going to go up against Trump. But then his ass ended up in jail for stealing money from her. During that trial against him, again, because he was found guilty of stealing $300,000 from her book advance uh we learned that she was also pitching a paranormal tv show called spooky babes in which she travels the country investigating ghostly occurrences and it was all inspired by her own quote personal experiences uh that she had at her home in new orleans which she said was haunted as fuck and that's why uh she should be out there the really interesting part is she has a sidekick on the show in the form of a literal haunted doll that she brings around called susan who is

supposedly possessed uh by the soul of a girl who died in the 1960s and even brought this creepy doll to the surreal life set i think maybe to try and do some like cross promo or something um but this like whole thing uh has become like also a big part of the avenatti trial the reason it came up is that he was like questioning her about the ghosts like extensively to try and paint her as like an unreliable like narrator or that she's like struggling like she has delusions of like ghost stuff and this dude apparently was like hammering the ghost stuff so much but everyone's like this is not it sir uh and then very quickly gavel guilty goodbye but she capitalized on that yeah she really did i can't

imagine the kind of like victory she's gonna collect if this case ends up being the thing that takes trump down but yeah i would fucking i would try and monetize the fuck out of that she she seems ready i i know she would have gotten sued into oblivion but why would you call it spooky babes when you could call it busted makes me feel good it's just so it's just there it's right there. It's right there. And also are the spooky babes in this plural sense, her in this doll. And that's spooky in itself. You know,

that's just like, okay. Oh, the doll is so weird. It's not even that weird. Unfortunately, it could, but I like anything like i

really do i am curious if she you know because i have people in my family who swear up and down about ghosts you know what i mean like and there's not a thing you can say to them about it like you know they've they've seen what they've seen the experience what they've experienced but i also wonder if stormy daniels falls into that category or she's just kind of like she knows how to, you know, spin a yarn and tell a tale to get people interested. Because I feel like, I mean, if that's true, like, I really want to know about your relationship with this doll. Like, what's going on with it? Yeah. It feels like she's just got a knack for the spectacle.

Clearly. Yeah, clearly. Right. What about you, Laura? Where are you at with the ghost uh are you are you spook squad or you're just like i've seen everything but god so i cannot watch scary movies if they're supernatural because i creep around my house for months afterwards scared of everything oh i can't i can't even let that in when when was little, my mom took me to see The Exorcist and the Amityville Horror.

And I is just like, I believe and I'm super scared of it. So I don't want anything to do with it. Now, personally, you ever have any paranormal supernatural encounters? I don't know that I have, but my mom has had a lot. She's had a lot. Is it a personality thing? Maybe. I think that maybe there's a level of awareness that some people have. And my four-year-old, he's 25 now, but when he was four, he saw me ironing and he said, mommy, that's the way I used to make grilled cheese sandwiches when i was a man

and then he left the room and i came i'm like what and he didn't really he couldn't repeat it back to me but i think if that was true like if he had another life a past life where he was because my grandfather did that my grandfather used ironing boards with wax paper to make grilled cheese sandwiches. Oh, wild. That's like, because they didn't have a hot plate, you know, so they could plug in the iron and cook like that. So there's, I'm thinking like maybe when you're little, when you're born, there's like a window to something else that we can't see as adults because we've been so hardened and jaded and then maybe some people aren't as hardened and jaded their whole lives and they have ability to see other things it's it's so funny because when i was like maybe eight or nine years old and i was

in japan like with my cousins we were walking at night um like from the convenience store like you know like kids walk like by themselves all over the place and we're walking like down this street and my cousin and his friend swore a ghost walked by but i saw a like piece of trash blow across the intersection where they they saw it was a ghost yeah and i thought i didn't know if they were trying to fuck with me and be like that was a ghost or whatever but they genuinely were like it was a ghost i'm like that was a bag right and it was just weird how the two were very like insistent upon it and then you know when we got home like they were like telling my aunt right and i was like that's a bag what's going on with y'all but that was your first your first step as

a career gas lighter yeah to Yeah. To you, Miles. What are you talking about? There ain't nothing there. Meanwhile, I'm so scared. Please don't let it be a ghost. Anyway, well, enough ghost talk. Laura, thank you so much for joining us on the Daily Zeitgeist. It's been a pleasure.

Where can people find you, follow you, and more importantly, get that book. Help you climb the charts zeitgeist. It's been a pleasure. Where can people find you, follow you, and more importantly, get that book, help you climb the charts. Thank you. Thank you guys for having me. This has been so much fun. It's great having you.

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And yeah, and then the podcast is the only one in the room. And love to have you guys take a listen to the podcast as well. Yeah, please, please. And is there a tweet or other work of social media that you've been enjoying? I have really been enjoying it's Leslie Jones. And this goes back to the woke conversation calling out Florida's governor Ron DeS desantis for racism saying that his erasure of black history is nothing short of racism and that she's angry about it and she's furious in the post so i've been sending it around to different people because i just think that she articulates

in this very very outraged way so perfectly what we've been thinking and scared to like it. She talks about the NAACP issuing a travel warning to black people about Florida. And like, this is a place that doesn't, that doesn't love us anymore. Right. Yeah, truly. I mean, especially, I mean, it's, it, it's mind blowing how obtuse conservatives act and like,

I don't see how that changes anything. Right. If like, if there's no context to something that has historical significance you're like what as long as you get the context all of history and yes you know yes everything that's happened in america that i guess this is crazy but it's wild though too that like their biggest fear is truly that people are aware you know what i mean like and that is the biggest the most frightening thing even when it goes along with like what was like

there's a recently a a film that they pulled out of schools that were like oh the ruby bridges yeah the ruby yeah exactly yeah because a parent said they were afraid their white child would learn about the racism that black kids were facing or still do and you're like excuse me your fear is that they'll learn about the world yeah clearly that was disingenuous though right like the thing i saw was like the parents like this might teach my kid to be racist and it's like yeah okay no no well i mean i think that's either way they're just mainlining the really stupid talking points and yeah i think because at the end of the day for them, they do feel that there is some kind of karmic debt, whether or not they feel responsible for it. That does exist.

And it's more about acknowledging it or not. And I think that's where the karmic debt, it's fucking economic debt. Yeah, I'm just saying that I think people look at it and sense like, well, I'm doing it. You know what I mean? It's like it's not about that motherfucker. You know yes it's not about we're not looking for you right now we're saying actually observe what is happening and understand the system that exists and then work with us to dismantle it but again uh equity to somebody who's been in the oppressor seat looks like yeah it looks a lot different yeah exactly so take the context out and rosa parks was just some lady on a bus who really was rude to a guy

right i guess honestly how it looks if you because i think in that telling of it they say she was a part of a different group or something so oh really yeah it's really obscene honestly given republicans it's a little wild they don't pivot that into and that's why there shouldn't be public transportation or public anything i know right it's like somehow that's a bridge too far maybe not all right you know what i'll say within a year someone will make that pitch in seriousness. All private everything. It's always all private everything. You know, I have a car.

I know, right. All the clowns, I guess. Bring in all the clowns. Andrew T, how about you? Where can people find you, follow you, and what's a tweet that you like? Because I haven't looked on social media as much as I like, and I usually just look at your likes. Sometimes, because you like good shit. I had to scroll scroll through my shit um i actually probably the best place now especially again with the writer's strike coming up my podcast yo is this racist we are doing as much

premium stuff as we can so uh we start we have had a thing going suboptimalpods.com um and a show that is uh still ongoing that i'm really happy with is, have you guys had Matt Apodaca on the show before? I'm sure you have. I don't think we have, but I know, I mean, he's always like, we're always one degree away from Matt Apodaca. Funny man Matt Apodaca and I have been doing this thing where we watch a children's show, Chip and Dale's Park Life, which is for toddlers. There are no words in it. It is just like coos and giggles and we've been doing watch-alongs of that called dale dudes i'm very proud of this thing that is again adult men watching something that is for literally subverbal children yeah but i know but with how intelligent you are and matt like the analysis is what i'm really interested in it's too i'm

very proud of it it's so stupid anyway so i'll call the pods um actually i do didn't want to tag a thing uh laura said there's also there's a um new-ish uh bookstore in pasadena called octavia's bookshelf yes oh my god i still haven't been but yeah that's a black owned um first black owned bookstore in pasadena which probably is should make sense i mean black people couldn't own in pasadena up until like the 70s or some shit like it right it was that yeah it was it was i guess it's pasadena yeah yeah i mean that's where all the publishers went to be like la is a shithole let's take our millions over here anyway so yeah just just wanted to mention that and then in the spirit of the wild pivots on this show my my tweet that i've liked

is honestly i'm ashamed to say it but i already have it pulled up um so it's from my friend matt toby um it was just one of those quote tweets in response to like what's a little known fact about your profession that would make people blah you know and he wrote people die at the dick sucking factory all the time and that's a little joke stupid such a stupid joke literally ashamed to have said it but i don't have anything better i love it i love it uh yeah that's that's also i think I actually did see that in your likes yesterday. Or maybe today. Anyway, what else? You find me at Miles of Grey on Twitter and Instagram.

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