The Daily Zeitgeist - Everything Is Grimace, RFK Kinda Cooked? 06.21.24

Episode Date: June 21, 2024

In episode 1696, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian behind the stand-up special Rose Gold and co-host of Dumb People Town, Daniel Van Kirk, to discuss… Trump’s First Slip In The Polls... Kind O...f, RFK Jr Doesn’t Qualify For CNN Debate, Sports Betting Site Releases Conspiracy Theory Map, The Mets’ Grimace Era Comes to An End and more! Trump’s First Slip In The Polls... Kind Of If Everyone Voted, Would It Benefit Biden? Not Anymore. RFK Jr Doesn’t Qualify For CNN Debate CNN debate stage set with Trump and Biden going head-to-head Biden and Trump Agree to Two Debates in June and September Sports Betting Site Releases Conspiracy Theory Map Conspiracy Theories and the 2024 US Election: An In-Depth Examination On campaign trail, RFK Jr. pushes 'bonkers' theory about CIA's 'takeover of the American press' Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’s Conspiracy of Ravens The Mets’ Grimace Era Comes to An End The New York Mets have lost for the first time in the Grimace era. LISTEN: Mexican Dream by Pierro PiccioniSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:52 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me for I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me for I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson.
Starting point is 00:02:31 We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making
Starting point is 00:03:04 of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 343, episode 4 of Your Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness,
Starting point is 00:03:42 and it is Friday, June 21 21st 2024 yeah yeah of course it's national day of the gong bang a gong is that it or bang it on is it bang it gone yeah bang it gone yeah bang that shit it's also national smoothie day it's national arizona day it's national take your dog to work Day, National Selfie Day, Go Skateboarding Day, National Daylight Appreciation Day. And guess what? For all the people who like real fine cuts of beef, it's also National Wagyu Day.
Starting point is 00:04:14 Wagyu? Yeah. Yeah. Don't go ride a skateboard if you're over the age of, I don't know, let's say 30. Unless you like already ride a skateboard, in which case you probably don't need a special day to tell you but yeah i i just meet like i'm not a i'm not a skateboard guy unless i'm trying to you know get the latest dope from the kids at the high school and turning my hat around backwards uh-huh but i i just like meet a lot of middle-aged people who are like i broke
Starting point is 00:04:42 my ankle tried skateboarding with my kid or something like that yeah yeah it feels like a very common way to break your ankle i think though too because like if you skated when you were younger it's easier to trick yourself and be like yeah dude give me that fucking board and you get on it and you're like wait see some sick moves my center of gravity is completely different than when i was 13 My ankle tendons are made of spider web now. So this should make me more flexible. You know when rubber bands get really old
Starting point is 00:05:11 and you stretch them out and catch the cracks on them? That's when my tendons are fucking old. You can actually hear the rubber bands crackling. You know when you put an old pair of underwear on and you're like, oh, that elastic just went. That's my tendons. Let me just stretch out here. You hear crackle that means i'm ready that means i'm gonna be good at this uh all right my name is jack o'brien aka raccoons as monsters that is courtesy of zach van bus
Starting point is 00:05:41 another van on this on this special van full show that is in reference to the fact that i think raccoons are terrifying monsters and we should acknowledge it they will fuck you up if you are a crow i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, gang. Take time and slow it down Cause November's near Take time and slow it down Cause we need to heal From stop to steal I'm half the man I used to be
Starting point is 00:06:21 Cause conservatives want to sterilize me All right right shout out to snarfala on the discord uh i had to figure out what the end of that was going to be but yeah love a bit of what is that stp we call that stp baby yeah yeah yeah creep it was like that everybody came out with the same voice at the same time yeah but this was more was more heroin. Yeah, that one was heroin. Yeah, he was on a little more heroin. The real deal. Mm-hmm. Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of our favorite guests,
Starting point is 00:06:55 one of the funniest stand-ups doing it. You know him from Bob's Burgers, the NFL Network. You can hear him every week co-hosting the hit podcast Dumb People Town with the Sklar Brothers. His new special is Rose Gold. It's available on YouTube right now. You better go listen to it. Please welcome the hilarious, the talented Daniel Van Kerr!
Starting point is 00:07:15 Daniel Van Kerr! Boom, boom, boom, boom. Hey, boys. Great to see you. Since I think last time you were on, you were giving us dispatches from the airport, think yeah you got stuck in uh in the airport and so if you guys let me freelance for you the amount of times i would do like from the front lines where the lines are just like very easy to step over like yeah yeah the like just everyday front lines of me talking to people while I'm traveling.
Starting point is 00:07:46 I would submit to you whenever you wanted. Even if you didn't use it. Yeah. Okay. All right. Just for our personal collection. Oh, so much fun. Yes.
Starting point is 00:07:54 That was so fun. Yeah, that was what the story that day was about. Like, Chex Mix prices fluctuating across the country in airports. And you gave us some first-hand accounts yeah yeah also spoke to some people so much you also talked to you talked to a pilot who sounded like very zanned out like he had like eaten a couple he was taking a trip to zanza bar yeah and i was i was worried for your safety i don't know have you guys i don't know if we even used that yeah yeah have you seen what you you want your pilot like low-keyed out on substances yeah i want my pilot i want my pilot low-key but cocky like i want him to walk into
Starting point is 00:08:39 the room like tossing an apple up and like you know just like talking calling me a nickname yeah yeah hitting off his elbow grabbing it like low-key like unflappable but i don't want him to sound like medically induced comatose yes yes which is why i'm saying that's why i'm saying flight because denzel was drunk but he's still denzel yeah got it he was like good he's like i'm gonna roll it he was a roller yeah yeah no he was cool he was he was cool and he was a good pilot uh that's the damn thing about that movie is fuck i wouldn't mind having that guy generally not for drunk people flying the plane that i'm in how many i mean i know it sort of imitates real life because you always hear about how like you know pilots fucking party but do you think that gave some pilots like
Starting point is 00:09:29 an example to kind of stop doing drugs and shit to be like bro what about denzel man if the faa saw an uptick in like applications to be a pilot after the movie flight came out they should have just been like shut it all down man we've got we've got a problem here what'd you do i mean i used to work on wall street man but i'm used to fucking flying dude if you know i've already got a substance abuse problem i just don't fly yeah you train me up i am a playstation the tip of the spear here baby it's the opposite of the top gun effect yeah exactly wait what was the top gun effect oh my god it's just the uptick in people who joined applications yeah right and that was a good thing for the air force where we're saying this would
Starting point is 00:10:11 probably presumably be bad for maybe that's what's going on boeing should put that out that what happened is just an upswing and yeah fucked up pilot the pilots are fucked up. That's why the door blew off the fuselage. I blame Denzel. That honestly somehow would be some shit that would be said. Yeah. Alright. Daniel, we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First,
Starting point is 00:10:37 a couple of things we're talking about today. We're going to talk about some polls. Some polling that might make you feel good. Some polling that might make you feel good some polling that might make you feel bad yeah we can't get too excited no that's right we don't just leave the polls there yeah leave the polls there but we will talk about them we will look at them and tell you what we see while leaving them there uh we'll talk about rfk jr he has not qualified for the cnn debate he's like mathematically eliminated
Starting point is 00:11:07 from the election already based on this right yeah i mean mathematically and that is his response to any scientific argument we'll talk about a uh bullshit map it purports to tell you the top states for conspiracy theorists what it really tells you seems to be where people who go to a betting website think that most conspiracy theorists are it's very strange uh journalism is dead This is like a new version of the... What is it? 38 days from... What was the... Memorial Day?
Starting point is 00:11:52 Oh, stop, Jack. Don't fuck it. Sorry, I shouldn't have done it. Because now I'm going to have to read it to fucking Daniel. Anyways, this is like a new version of that. The polling version of that. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about...
Starting point is 00:12:06 Grimace has some juice. 6.8 weeks. 6.8 weeks. Fucking bullshit. I'm sorry about that. And people who listen, but not every day, might not know what the fuck we're talking about. And that's okay.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Because I don't even know what I'm talking about half the time. But, yes. The AI and the internet has broken journalism is yeah yeah yeah there's just nonsensical things being written and yeah i think it's because we're in this like liminal space where we're like it's things are probably may go like 70 ai that i'm still kind of getting used to what ai writing is and i need to get used to it quick. All of that, plenty more. But first, Daniel Van Kirk, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Starting point is 00:12:54 PJ Byrne, Demolition Man. Okay, go on. Now, PJ Byrne, if you're unfamiliar, first of all, you're not unfamiliar. One of the like ultimate, I think I know this person from movies ever. He has like over a hundred credits. Been working forever. He's, if you watch Babylon, starring my pen pal's co-host, Rory Scoville.
Starting point is 00:13:16 If you watch Babylon, he plays the assistant when they're trying to like, they've just started introducing sound into making movies and he loses his mind. It's a, it is an award worthy performance. Oh yeah. Yeah. But he has been in things forever. He's in the boys.
Starting point is 00:13:32 Uh, he's on the show, the boys. Yep. So I was up in my cabin in Wisconsin watching a VHS of demolition, man. And I swear to God, that's PJ.
Starting point is 00:13:43 Now I could find this out. I could have Rory text him, but he PJ. Now, I could find this out. I could have Rory text him, but he's not credited. I just don't, and I know that that's like mid-90s, which would be a long time ago. Yeah, that would be a long time ago, right? But maybe he's 18, maybe he's 20.
Starting point is 00:13:56 It looks just like him. So I tried to Google and find out if it is PJ Byrne. In what scene? It is, I think it's when Wesley Snipes says teddy bears or whatever and like that's the code to get out of the handcuffs when he's up for cryo parole.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Oh, okay. And then they're like freaking out and then they think they've solved, like they think, oh, we've stopped his car. Everything's fixed. I think you see PJ then in that whole sequence of we haven't had a murder in 40 years it's actually a murder death kill yeah but yeah yes yeah wow okay now
Starting point is 00:14:32 i'm gonna watch now i want to know so it's a peek into why and where and what created that search in my history if you want yeah just something you keep just you know you don't really share with everybody's like you know i had an uncredited role in Demolition Man, but I don't want to get people off fucking losing their shit. Yeah, no, I'd be unable to keep that one under my hat. That'd be a neck tattoo. Ask me about Demolition Man. Oh, you mean Demolition Man co-starring me?
Starting point is 00:15:00 Yeah. Me and Sandy B? Yeah, what's that old Taco Bell cup you have? Oh, this? It's a promo from the 90s film Demolition Man. It appears to be leaking. It's mostly disintegrated. Yeah, well, it's paper.
Starting point is 00:15:14 I guess they don't really last more than maybe a month. Did you guys know or do you remember that Comic-Con, I don't know, could have been 2017, could have been 2019. I don't know. I don't know. It could have been 2017. It could have been 2019. I don't know. But they they
Starting point is 00:15:26 made the Demolition Man Taco Bell. Like it was like a pop-up Demolition Man Taco Bell. I remember reading about it. Yeah. It was wonderful. Like the fancy restaurant? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:38 But it was still a Taco Bell. You know, they didn't go full like. Because the one in the movie is like a michelin restaurant because dan cortez is playing piano yeah to entertain the guests yes yeah that was wild what a film agreed yeah worth going back and watching uh as miles has pointed out a couple times the director of demolition man is marco bambia. Yeah, like a very famous, like, artist.
Starting point is 00:16:05 Visual artist, yeah. Visual artist who, you know, you see in the most famous museums. And he directed exactly one Hollywood movie and was like, well, I hate this, but here's Demolition Man. Love art. And then I'm going to go back to making actual art. And you kind of get that going back and watching it at the time i think we all were just sold we were like this is like the stallone version of last action hero or something which i know a lot of people still ride for last action hero but oh do they yeah they do and i did i did not like it when i saw it
Starting point is 00:16:43 it freaked me out the main dude with the axe who who had the grimy teeth and the yellow rain slicker. He always freaked me out. It was supposed to be satirizing action movies. But that's not a bad guy from an action movie. Like an axe-wielding movie. That's a horror movie. I just feel like they didn't know. Could have made a reference to another movie like some of the other
Starting point is 00:17:06 characters were. Yeah. That's Salieri from Amadeus. That's right. I just wish they had made more Amadeus references is my main note. What's something you think is underrated, Daniel? I'm going to go ahead to I don't want to say both. I'm going to go with
Starting point is 00:17:23 refrigerator sandwiches. What do you mean? Oh, like something that's in Daniel? You know, I'm going to go. I had two. I don't want to say both. I'm going to go with the refrigerator sandwiches. Okay. What do you mean? Oh, like something that's in a refrigerated case? Well, yes, sort of. That is a version. One, I have a sandwich that I like to travel with because it holds up well. It's from Jersey Mike's.
Starting point is 00:17:40 It's the like club, the like turkey, ham and bacon. But you just just you get it with swiss cheese and mayo you don't you can't have any produce on there because you might have to buy this the day before you fly out like the night before and then you're taking it the next day yeah i realized recently i like that sandwich better in that version because something about refrigerating it and since you don't have tomatoes and lettuce and all that stuff it holds up well and it actually makes the sandwich better than it when i eat it directly from the store or at the store so you're saying we're not going mike's way there's no
Starting point is 00:18:15 juices you can't handle that if it's an airport i mean it's an airplane sandwich just taking a mike's jersey mike's mike's way like if you take it home from the store, the half the sandwich is already just a fucking. Yeah. The bread is goo. Yeah. You got to fork and knife situation. Might as well dunk that in a duck. Which is why I eat it in the car.
Starting point is 00:18:32 Okay. While I drive. But then it also got me thinking. Uh-huh. I think a peanut. You can always make toast and do a peanut butter and jelly sandwich. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Yeah. But the inverse of that is a peanut butter and jelly sandwich out of the refrigerator, which does happen a lot again at airports. I travel a lot. Yeah. So I do enjoy a slightly chilled, refrigerated PB&J. Yeah. I think it is a good aesthetic.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I love the toast version as well. I can't push against that. I have a very specific PB&J. This is the one that my dad made my lunches as a kid. And he, so I have a preference for slightly smashed peanut butter and jelly sandwiches that have been refrigerated overnight. And he would put the peanut butter on both sides of the bread and then a big clop of jelly in the middle. And there's just like something about that combo. I'm sure it's just that I had it when in my childhood.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yeah, you're eating nostalgia. Yeah. It was the manifestation of a father's love. Yeah, exactly. I think that may be it. And then now I got to give it a good fucking punch after I make mine. Fuck you. think that may be it and then now i gotta give it a good fucking punch after i make mine i asked the sandwich if it's proud of me dad the bread soggy again what happened it's not tears i don't know what the hell's going on with the fridge something's up in there yeah oh yeah yeah i like when i travel there's a spot
Starting point is 00:20:03 in pasadena that that's like that does like this Italian sandwich where they only make one sandwich and you can't order it anyway. Like they just have a pile of them and you grab them and they're perfect because it's just cheese. Perfect. A little olive oil and then different like Italian meats. And that shit you can like put in your pocket and like fucking run a marathon. It's good. It's like fantastic. The Italian is my favorite
Starting point is 00:20:25 grabbing stash sandwich for some reason. I'll take it with a little bit of wetness if the bread is right. If the bread is not going to just dissolve. If the bread abides, dude. Exactly, man. Refrigerator
Starting point is 00:20:42 sandwiches, the best. America runs a america runs on refrigerated sandwiches it does what's uh what's something you think is overrated the vip area oh i think tell them how you live tell them how you live dvk how many times because i've we've been to this you've been to a thing like oh, we have this area for you. You guys should be over there. And you'll be at a club or a bar or whatever. And as a person who, I don't frequent the VIP area. I'm not
Starting point is 00:21:12 of the love. But, oftentimes, people in the VIP area, they're like, if you want to get in and be a part of the party and have fun, you have to go out into Gen Pop. Right. Yeah. So it it's like people pay these tables to do this bottle service just to like stand there and not really
Starting point is 00:21:32 be a part of the party yeah but if you do decide if they're like what do you do this for let's be a part of the party well then you realize you didn't need the v area. No. What you wanted was a place to sit. Which I can understand. But oftentimes, if I need to get out, just sitting somewhere in these lights and or loud music, I will want to have stepped outside for a minute anyway. Right, right, right. And that's the greatest VIP area of all.
Starting point is 00:22:01 Outside. The out of doors. God's VIP area. Yeah. Nature yeah nature gaia gaia nailed it yeah that's right no yeah the vips i mean because it's it's it's wild how different like when back when back when i was going to clubs in the early aughts the shit was there was maybe only a couple vip tables and it was mostly still a like a place you got fucking gnarly sweaty dancing and shit and then you left and it's interesting to see how over time like the flex culture has taken over even the like spaces that were just meant to get like sweaty and dancing where it's like now it's like 40 fucking tables or 50 tables and no one dances and it's just to be seen.
Starting point is 00:22:45 And that's like where I feel like so old. I'm like, damn, like, okay. But like, I think about this too, like in,
Starting point is 00:22:50 in Vegas, right? If you're living that VIP life, you probably like when I go to Vegas, I'm there to sort of run them up with the peasants. We're all peasants running around. Freak out. So like,
Starting point is 00:23:03 I want to go to the pool at the Flamingo and just people watch while drinking a Miami Vice. Just pee in the Flamingo pool. In the kiddie pool. While making eye contact with everybody. And then I pee in the sphere. No, but if you're like VIP lifestyle,
Starting point is 00:23:20 you're like, oh, we got a room and it has its own pool. Well, that's going to be the most boring pool in Vegas. Right. Yeah what's up eric yeah hey guy i oh shit i work with coming over yeah guy i work with who i flew here with and now it's just me and him in this pool in this room i got a half a pb andJ over there in the fridge. It's in fridge, actually, so it's still pretty good. All right. But you get a great room. They're like, the room has its own pool.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And I'm like, yeah, but I'm in Vegas. This isn't the pool I want to be at. Yeah. Right. Yeah, for sure. I want to be in the pool that gives me syphilis. Yes. And I give it right back.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Right. I want someone to say, you didn't open your eyes underwater there did you and then you go why what's wrong oh oh shit i can already see it yeah yeah no i i 100% agree i don't i don't really do vip areas the the times the very few times that i've encountered i feel like there are two types of vip areas they're the ones that are kind of off to the back, and then they're the ones that are in the center of everything. To be the look-at-me VIP. To be the look-at-me VIP area. That feels so desperate and thirsty to be in that VIP area. That's where we are.
Starting point is 00:24:39 That's embarrassing, to be in a VIP area that's in the middle of the whole thing. Yeah. what the fuck are we doing can I side question you guys really quick yeah have you seen any like lately in your life or just on the internet like when they do bottle service at a club yes that's like what they're writing on the signs as they walk out like holding you know sometimes it just says like happy birthday yeah yeah whatever but I've seen recently where they're so like left field and hilarious like they're walking out and the sign says she's not going to text you back they're walking out and the sign says it's just paper right this like they're they're they've become like meme boards right and they're hilarious and
Starting point is 00:25:21 i always wonder does the club do that or is that what the person requested when they ordered the bottle? Because I don't know who ordered a bottle. I have no idea how this works. Hey, I'm going to pay you $1,000 for a single bottle of booze. Could you roast me while you bring it out to me? Could you just absolutely rinse me in front of all these people I'm so desperate to impress? I'm sorry. That would be cool.
Starting point is 00:25:43 So the Smirnoff is $1,000 for a 750 mil? Yeah. Okay. I guess I'll take that then. That's the cheapest one? Yes, it is. Do we get orange juice with that? For $100?
Starting point is 00:25:55 That's $78. Yeah. I was in Japan recently for a friend's wedding. And at the end of their wedding, it was very low-key, just super chill wedding. It wasn't a huge affair. And afterwards, the bride and groom were like, we kind of want to go dancing. So like me and a few of our other friends, we like, we didn't get them a gift. Cause they're like, you guys traveled all the way here. Please don't get us gifts. But we're like old. And we went to a club and we're like, I kind of need to sit down, dude. Like I'm not
Starting point is 00:26:19 young enough to want to be up in it right now. Like I'd rather just sit off to the side. Luckily bottles in like Japan were not expensive. So like between the six of us we're like all right if we all put in like 80 bucks like we can all sit down and we did that and the funny part was they go oh where you guys from america so when the bottle came out they had like sparklers and they were just waving american flags and shit and i was was like, no, no, no, no, no. We don't got to do all that. But then like the people next to us from like Australia, then they brought an Australian flag out and they were like,
Starting point is 00:26:50 making it rain napkins and shit. Like it was just very, then the sparklers. And at that point I was like, see, this is why I'm a whole body when it comes to it. Drink any liquid as if it has a sparkler and an American flag in it. Gotta have those American flags. It's always been that way. Yeah. It's the only way
Starting point is 00:27:07 I can wet my whistle. That's how your dad made your lunch. Exactly. It goes, go back to my childhood. All right. Let's,
Starting point is 00:27:15 let's take a quick break and then we'll get into some news. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.
Starting point is 00:28:27 And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan
Starting point is 00:28:58 Sanner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it? Like you miss 100% of the shots you never take. Yeah. Rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I just come here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare
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Starting point is 00:30:24 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. And so we're mainly talking about this because the news is talking about this, and this is a show that charts the zeitgeist everybody from this point forward will be periodically freaking out about some polls yeah and i mean yeah we've seen trump's first uh slip in the polls kind of yeah he's been in the lead for the entirety of this year yeah this year basically yeah so what does this mean
Starting point is 00:31:09 my miles we're gonna go to miles our resident poll watcher really quick so i wasted a few few years of my life doing this electoral politics shit realize i just wanted to make funnies on youtube but uh i'm back at the board. And yeah, like we said, Trump has pretty healthily not healthily. I mean, like by the margin of error led, you know, Biden and at times up to five points. But the Biden hasn't led Trump in the Fox News poll since October of last year. And that was until this week when the latest edition of the results came out that he was ahead two points in March, Trump was ahead five points. So, like, it's been sort of on a downward trend in the Fox News poll.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Obviously, like we're saying, these aren't any indication of what's going to happen. It's merely just like what's happening with this group of like maybe 1,500 people. How are those 34 felonies playing right now with people who answer polls? This was the first poll since the 34 felony convictions. How those 34 felonies playing right now with people who answer polls. like prohibiting asylum seekers from entering that's maybe helping him out and maybe that's true but i think it's probably just i think it's more about trump excitement waning than biden excitement increasing because at the end of the day like the people who are going to show up for trump are going to show up either way but i think it's maybe because some independents may have been like oh well 34 felonies isn't great because because now Biden actually had a nine point swing in his direction with independence. If you compare it to may, I think that's where you see maybe the felonies playing out. Sure. But yeah, again, when it comes to like Trump, like people are still
Starting point is 00:32:55 going to the rallies, people are still handing over their money to him. So from that standpoint, it seems like things are moving pretty closely. And again, this has been so the polls have been so fucking close. There's nothing that really indicate that either person can run away with it. It's going to be very close. And if anything, I think, you know, from from all we're seeing, there's just there's a little bit more energy being put into the GOP candidate at the moment, whether it's like the actual money going in or maybe just the amount of the way they're priming the base to reject anything but a trump victory because that is already like they are they're they got those batteries fully charged already like i mean i don't know we'll see what happens i mean if trump loses obviously something's gonna something happened right and who knows he i mean that's in all likelihood he might just win outright without any fuckery. So it's a bit alarming. But either way, probably. But we're probably in for another like five day election day.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Like we were in 2020. Yeah. It's so close. Yeah. I don't think anyone because we don't have our shit together like other countries where they're like, all right, we've counted the votes. Like, yeah, here it is. Yeah. Other countries. Yeah. That, all right, we've counted the votes. Like, yeah, here it is. Yeah, other countries. Yeah, that's just how it works.
Starting point is 00:34:08 We don't we haven't figured that that out quite yet. And there has to be a reason we haven't figured that out quite yet. Like it's in somebody's best interest for that not to have been figured out. I'm sure you spent two days on this, but also isn't this the first poll since electric battery shark paradox? Yeah, that was electric battery shark paradox was actually the second time he said that it was just it just happened to like get a little more pickup this time he's done that exact same speech yeah like eight months oh that's in the prompter yeah i mean it's been working's in the prompter in his head. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:34:47 But here's the thing I wonder, though, about that. And just to seriously tie it back into the polls. I feel like there's a lot of people at Trump rallies that are leaving the rally the same way like we left Ant-Man and the Wasp. Like we left like-Man and the Wasp like we left like we left like Phase 4 Marvel
Starting point is 00:35:09 yeah like we walked up being like I don't know that was good that was good Dan that was good it was like it was just like I'm glad we went I love going to the movies with you but yeah obviously he's a jinx.
Starting point is 00:35:25 Obviously, like, obviously George Lucas is a genius. And that movie was awesome. But I think you're right that there were like some things that were, and obviously it was, and obviously love it. Four stars out of four stars.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I'm not going to say bad, but it was just like, there was something like a little bit weird, but like we both agree. We aren't leaving this movie the way we left infinity war. Like, we like we're at least oh yeah i'm willing to say that i'm willing to say that but and so i wonder if they are sort of like walking back to their wagon ears and like saying like i don't that's a little different right like well yeah we need more interviews with people walking back to their wagon ears from Trump speeches just being like, so what do you guys think?
Starting point is 00:36:08 And I wonder if that's coming through in the polls a little bit of like, people aren't as decided or they don't want to answer. I don't know. But it has to be on some level. Some people, and I'm not saying they're going to vote for him, but in the polling, they're a little bit watered down. Right. I mean, that's why I just think of like, him, but in the polling, they're a little bit watered down. Right. I mean, that's why, like, I just think of, like, when you look at the rallies, they are different. You know, like, they're not saying, they're not doing, remember, it used to be like, they're going to do Locker Up. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:35 They're going to do Drain the Swamp. They're going to do Build the Wall. They're going to scream it. They haven't said it. Like, I think one of the last couple, like, we haven't even heard those like usual chants like it's just you know the norm like usa or like you know you know bullshit or whatever the fuck they want to scream out can and again i think that's also because like the the actual substance of his rallies is completely different like he was on this whole populist thing in 2016 and you're like oh look at this like build the wall is actually something a lot
Starting point is 00:37:05 of people are like huge and he's articulated it into this like simple slogan and now pulling it from like talk radio yeah radio callers yeah exactly and everyone's like yeah actually hell yeah drain the swamp they're like hell yeah exactly and now they're like are we this fuck it no no no it's fine no this this is okay but i think also because like it went from being talking about the potential things that were like the misgivings of the electorate and have just been replaced with his own personal like revenge fantasies and grievances that he just yells at them about and they're like all right he's like yeah it's just a witch hunt you know folks and they're like right you're out of me too
Starting point is 00:37:46 you're out of me too they're gonna get ya and if you have a hula hoop and I think a lot of people do have hula hoops and they're like wait what why are we talking about sharks do more racism I'll get to it
Starting point is 00:38:01 an evil judge he looks like an angel but he talks like an angel walks like an angel he just starts singing the song he literally said that the angel the judge looks like an angel it was so confusing but yeah he's mainly focused on personal grievance hopefully that's enough to distract people there's there was was like this New York Times article that freaked me out a little bit where they were like, so the people, the low visibility voters, the low, like the voters who don't usually vote, essentially, in primaries and in midterms, they used to always go Democrat. They used to always go Democrat. And so this is why the Republicans whole strategy like during W. Bush's presidential elections and all those times was to suppress voter turnout.
Starting point is 00:38:54 And now they're saying that like the like Trump wins those people by like 14 percentage points. And I think this explains also like why he i don't know like the thing that's scary to me is if the election was held today even if biden is up by a couple percentage points like biden and hillary clinton were up big on trump in the polling heading into both elections and he always over performs the polling so I don't think it's ever enough to be like, yeah, Biden's doing great in the polls because Trump always he just has. He's very popular and motivating to a lot of people who don't answer polls or usually vote. So that's that's what's making me feel like shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Yeah. Yeah. We got plenty of reasons. Got got plenty of reasons we got plenty of reasons to feel like shit pal but i mean i wouldn't say that there's no policy talk because he does typically just be like and there won't be taxes for anyone and no taxes how do you fund it whatever yeah i'm gonna kill the sharks and we will and i'm not gonna do it want me to tax is sharks. And I'm not going to do it. I'm not taxing sharks. I've never been a fan. A West Side Story.
Starting point is 00:40:10 Dream a dream. Somewhere, somewhere. And I saw a West Side Story. A lot of people said, don't see it. I saw it. Rita Moreno. God bless her. Too bad she's gone.
Starting point is 00:40:19 A lot of people think she's alive. No, she's alive. She's very much alive. She's coming out in a new movie. She's gone. They buried her like they like bud buried uma bud buried uma and he took her sword he lied about having a lot of people lie about whether or not they sell their swords it's such a fun you just mad gab it yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:40:38 amazing uh all right we we have another uh poll that i would give about as much credence as the ones we were just talking about. This one is a map that shows the top states for conspiracy theorists. I'm seeing it get passed around. I'm seeing it pick up some traction. And so the big headline, the top of of the list was Florida, Texas and California. Least conspiracy theory centric states, Maryland, Rhode Island, Hawaii and North Dakota. But there are just a few caveats to this. Like, for starters, this information comes from the sports website Oddspedia, who for some reason launched a study into conspiracy theories instead of just offering predictions for NFL win totals. And if you go to oddspedia.com right now and enter DVK at checkout,
Starting point is 00:41:36 they will match your conspiracy up to 10 conspiracies. That's right. I also like, also, they go, what,ia texas and florida the most populous states in america like what else are you fucking saying you know it's like in that order like yeah the map was also created using a poll that asked people which states they believe is which state they believe is most likely to have the most conspiracy theorists. So it's a poll of people's guesses. Speaking about other people.
Starting point is 00:42:10 About other people. Yeah, because if there's one thing I know well, it's people that aren't me or in my immediate community. So the actual map is, here's a map of the states where Americans think most conspiracy theorists are. Yes. And isn't that fascinating? Yeah. It's like the dark states are California, Texas, Florida, New York. It is literally the population centers.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Yeah. Then Illinois, Ohio, like Pennsylvania. We're going in order Illinois is kind of light actually is it? yeah oh look at you oh yeah wow you guys got your shit over there
Starting point is 00:42:52 I'm proud of what people think about us at odds when they go to oddspedia.com yeah me and my Illinois brethren you got it in you but wouldn't you guys say
Starting point is 00:43:00 if this was an accurate math with accurate data, Star Trek? Either one's fine. Florida probably doesn't change color? Yeah, no, probably not. If you're in the Keys, it's for a reason.
Starting point is 00:43:20 You're hiding from something. Yeah, you're either running from something or really trying to find something alabama's getting a lot of love too yeah they're also like one of the dark like that one's an outlier where they're like and i think maybe it's like i don't know man people from alabama or i don't know if you're from alabama is that a big conspiracy theory state i guess because everything you can imagine like california you're to get freaky anti-vaxxer people. There's a lot of woo-woo anti-vaxxers here.
Starting point is 00:43:49 Or you're on the other side and you think California because they have those crazy got to get vaxxed people. Right. It literally cuts both ways. Yeah, yeah. Right. Because it's just your opinion of what a conspiracy theory is yes california believes joe biden is the president you literally could have someone get say to you i think it's this state because they don't believe anything there they make it all up or and then another person goes
Starting point is 00:44:17 i think it's the same state because they believe everything there right yeah exactly as somebody who has traveled a lot in this great nation of ours daniel van kirk what where you and you also do a show about the sorts of people yeah people doing impressively stupid things what what uh where are you thinking the hot spots of who should get some love more love here. And I love this state, but it's probably, I'd probably have to go Wisconsin, Michigan, Montana,
Starting point is 00:44:55 Oregon, any place where a large part of the state is for people who really want to like live remotely. Yes, it's not about the state as a whole. Like, yes, yes. It's not about the state as a whole. It's just, do you have a part of your state where people are like,
Starting point is 00:45:09 the Keys can be considered this as well, where people are out here to be like, I have my thoughts about the world and I don't want to be around anybody. Like that's what it's, yes. The Upper Peninsula, the Boundary Waters, rural Oregon, like you're up there because you're like,
Starting point is 00:45:24 I know what's really going on and I need to be on my own. I don't want nothing to do with this thing the boundary waters, rural Oregon. You're up there because you're like, I know what's really going on and I need to be on my own. I don't want nothing to do with this thing you got going on here called America. Nothing. I've been laying low for 37 years. Yeah. Damn, son. You know I don't own a mirror, right?
Starting point is 00:45:40 Wow. Is that impressive? Don't need it. Yeah. Don't need it. Obviously, there's conspiracy people like in New York and which predominantly would carry New York City would carry the numbers, obviously. But you can't live in New York City unless you will conform to how things need to work. Like, I get on this train. You get off here.
Starting point is 00:45:58 You need to be a part of this system. Otherwise, you will not. It will. Life won't work for you here. Now, that doesn't mean they don't have, you know, somebody who's been in the same apartment in the Upper East Side for 50 years and newspapers everywhere. Sure. But a lot of it is like, when you believe your own way and you do your own thing, you need to get up to Northern Wisconsin. I'm in the deserts of Eastern Oregon, man. You're like, all right. I'm out here in New Mexico and I haven't seen another person in four
Starting point is 00:46:26 days. That's right. I like when I'm in a place where it's so you're just like truly in like the wilderness where like it's just the sound of nature is almost deafening. Like I definitely like that, but I'm wondering like, because part of me is like,
Starting point is 00:46:42 well, I like that, but after maybe five days, I'd be like, yo, dude, I like that. But after maybe five days I'd be like, yo dude, I need to at least hear someone's like terrible exhaust pipe on a Honda or something like this, the soundscapes that make me feel okay too. I don't know how long I can do it. Even though, yeah, I probably not too many beliefs away from having a manifesto and like a mountain shack, but yeah, but you know they don't for now i can't i can't make my own blunts you know my own tobacco skins to roll i still need to go to the
Starting point is 00:47:10 yeah i'm with you i i need i need enough i need to be i need to be waving at people at least once or twice a day yeah rather than like a hawk who's just like picked up a salmon from a stream like hey yeah yeah nice one yeah i know you bernard i said nice one it drops the salmon drops oh shit my bad but that never mind just give me the good catch you picked it up before i hit the ground that's cool that's a five second rule what that's so funny fucking loser keeps talking to us man jesus christ oh man y'all seen a bald eagle lately yes i saw like three or four last week keeps talking to us, man. Jesus Christ. Oh, man. Y'all seen a bald eagle lately? Yes, I saw like three or four last week.
Starting point is 00:47:50 Liar! Where? Up at my cabin in Wisconsin. For the past couple of years, they've been... They've had a nest on the lake. And when I was leaving the cabin to, you know, fly fly get to the airport and then
Starting point is 00:48:06 fly back here to la uh there was one just at the top of a telephone pole i took a photo of it i could send it to you guys i was like that's a fucking bald eagle that's amazing you were just talking about rural wisconsin being so being a place where people go to their what kind of ideas you got man put me on a game i YouTube, if that's what you mean. Oh, fuck! Okay, look, man. We got neighbors. We got neighbors.
Starting point is 00:48:31 We're waving. Oh, okay. All right, you're waving. We're waving. Okay, you got waving neighbors. That's good. I saw a bald eagle up close a couple weeks ago. It was like a rescued bald eagle.
Starting point is 00:48:41 And I never thought I would see a bird that I would... The description that would come to mind is built like a brick shithouse but this thing was fucking like massive and squat and like thick and just looked so pissed i looked like it should be like a fullback in the 1950s like ron dane like yeah yeah it was like right it had ron dane and speaking of wisconsin wait was he wisconsin or nebraska yeah he was wisconsin dane yeah wasn't he i thought i thought nebraska but but you know we're talking it's a red it's a red scheme here it's one of those red outfits yeah yeah yeah yeah and n is half a w anyway it It was Wisconsin. Nailed it. Nailed it. It was. Yeah, it was Wisconsin. Yeah.
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Starting point is 00:50:31 Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer,
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Starting point is 00:51:41 I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil.
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Starting point is 00:52:14 She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:52:37 The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back. And so, RFK Jr. did not qualify for the CNN debates. Were you guys
Starting point is 00:52:54 making a lot of noise? What metric are you using, man? That's right. Didn't qualify for... So, CNN's polling threshold of 15% in at least four approved national polls.
Starting point is 00:53:09 Okay. So, he got to three so congratulations this was the big detail that i feel like is being under emphasized in the mainstream media he also fell short of the ballot requirements to secure access in enough states to win 270 electoral votes. So he, this person who's like being given this much media attention is mathematically eliminated before the election starts. Well, that's, I think you're focusing on the wrong stuff. Agreed, agreed.
Starting point is 00:53:39 Because he also, hold on. Cook, cook, cook. He ticked a couple boxes. Is he at least 35 years old to run for president? Yes. And he fucking nailed that one. Was he born of the United States? Yes, he was.
Starting point is 00:53:56 Did he file for his candidacy with the Federal Election Commission? Yes, he did. This is like watching Rabbit in 8 Mile right now. Yeah, thank you. Give it a d i'm fucking white and i vomited backstage yeah this is all it's all bad i mean it is true like you don't dude even if you tried i think the most you can get to is like 160 something that's wild so it's all just to prove a high-minded point like this is what's frustrating like at that after the 2000
Starting point is 00:54:25 election after you know like bernie made a run and then it was like oh the democratic party will never allow something like that to happen i think a lot of us were like i wonder if there's ever a path to a third party candidate and so the fact that he's doing this and is like a lot of the arguments he's making are also the arguments that I'm like, yeah, no, if if you were trying to prove a point other than that, presidential candidates should do their own medicine and science. medicine and science. Like, you know, like if you had an actual point to make, I think other than do your own research, I would be like on board. We need it to be easier for there to be a third party candidate.
Starting point is 00:55:19 But this guy fucking sucks, man. It's inspirational. It's inspirational that he can pull this off. Brainworm survivors can run for president. But the thing that i think is also kind of wild too is you're like you don't it does this also doesn't preclude him from running it's like do you even have the votes to be president no all right man you can keep running all good yeah nothing bars you from i'd say do you have the votes to stop me yeah perfect dumb Wait, what? Yeah. Perfect dumb guy logic.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Wow, you really do do a weekly podcast. Let me ask you this. Can you kick my ass? To quote Chris Rock's special. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you're so smart. The thing about a real third party,
Starting point is 00:56:03 we're not, we are not going to have a third party. Candidate until we've this is sort of a chicken and egg thing until we've had a third party president, like the person we're going to have a third party until the person who is running in the third party wins. Yeah, well, I mean, I think more than than that like there actually needs to be more like third party people in congress that's really the building blocks you need is like you got to start getting people in congress first before like you can't just jump you can't just skip to the oval from there like yeah i mean i think that's the trouble that especially on like the left has with like the two-party system is figuring what the best, best path into that is.
Starting point is 00:56:45 But the, the, the only way to start is to actually run people for Congress and at least get a foothold there because otherwise, yeah, it's going to be very difficult. But I think like with RFK's campaign, the thing is even before all of these,
Starting point is 00:56:59 you know, numbers that mathematically quote preclude him from winning the presidency like the campaign was just fucking wobbly as shit like they were not making and they weren't raising any money he brought in that tech person nicole shanahan to be his vice president to put her own money in it wasn't enough like the biggest person bankrolling this is like a Trump donor. He was even doing stuff. He's like, hey, man, if you fucking donate whatever donations you can get, I'll give you 15% of whatever you gave to me. Let's just split it. 15.85. Wait, what?
Starting point is 00:57:35 Yes. He was trying to, again, to bring the sharks into it, chum the waters by promising a 15% return on whatever you helped fundraise. Dark money goes in the water. You go in the water. Exactly. Darks in the water. Exactly. So, yeah, it's just all like...
Starting point is 00:57:53 There's another thing they did. It was like... You could do like a luxury sunset sailing adventure. Like he tried to do raffles and stuff, selling off family heirlooms. Yeah, I mean... What body of water water is that in like Hyannisport? Like, is he doing the, is he trading in on the Kennedy magic? What are we doing? Yeah, maybe.
Starting point is 00:58:12 You can't run a campaign like a school silent auction. Exactly. That's what he's doing. Yeah. Right. Or yeah, or I guess you can. Yeah. It turns out. It's like, Hey, does your dad still work in the garage door business? Yeah. You think he could like donate a new garage door? I could put that in the raffle for people.
Starting point is 00:58:31 Free estimate. We could do a free estimate. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. We'll take that. This thing's not running on anything except my brain worms. The other thing that he's getting ridiculed for lately is claiming that the head of NPR is a CIA agent. This is another way he pisses me off because some of his conspiracy theories are good.
Starting point is 00:58:54 I like the conspiracy theory that the head of NPR is a CIA agent. Personally, I don't I don't know it to be true. I haven't done my own research into this one, but there is a history of CIA involvement in American media. I doubt the head of NPR is a CIA agent. And then he's also getting made fun of for, man, he's so close. If his whole thing wasn't just fuck science and medicine, I'd be a big fan. Because his other thing is like, he's a weird bird person. He's like trying to train ravens in his yard with like scraps of meat. He's got the bird vote, huh? He's got the bird.
Starting point is 00:59:37 He has a pet emu that is like constantly attacking Cheryl Hines. So he's in his own version of the staircase. Yes, exactly. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. If Cheryl ends up with like a weird, what he calls Raven injury,
Starting point is 00:59:53 then we'll know. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. What happened? You could tell by the scratch marks. It was definitely Raven, dude.
Starting point is 01:00:00 And finally, Grimace is back. Grimace. Grimace left. Not my heart. Grimace is like. Grimace left? Not my heart. Grimace is like the Kennedys in that we are just dying for any way to get him into the zeitgeist. Just give us anything, Grimace. Please, yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:18 So in this case, Grimace is a baseball sensation. So last year, he put out a milkshake that was made of his cum. We pointed that out on our show. A lot of people. Almost exactly a year ago. Yeah, almost exactly a year ago. He became demonic off of it. Then, you know, McDonald's profited off of it.
Starting point is 01:00:36 It was almost like we were CIA plants who had been put there to make that joke to sell Grimace milkshakes. The worst CIA plants. What's our mission? The worst CIA. All right, Agent Gray and O'Brien, you got to get people to think this Grimace milkshake is his cum. All right.
Starting point is 01:00:53 This is so confusing. Way ahead of you. No, trust me. Is this for national security? Fellas, we're way ahead of you. Not really. Just something we think would be interesting just to see where it goes. Yeah. All right. All right.
Starting point is 01:01:05 All right. This is like the winds of change. Like, create a meme, a bunch of memes about the Grimace milkshake. All right. So, the Mets are having... All I know about the Mets is heading into the season,
Starting point is 01:01:21 their fans are like, but this is like... This is the year. It's a literal super team. Like we have paid all the best players in Major League Baseball to play for the Mets. How could it go wrong? And then the next time I hear about them, they are having a disastrous season. Those are the two times because I don't really pay that much attention to baseball.
Starting point is 01:01:42 So it's like those stories pop up every once in a while. So that happened again this year. They have the highest payroll, $308 million. Started the season 29-37. And then a little something happened. They invited Grimace to throw out their first pitch. And they won that game. And that's it.
Starting point is 01:02:11 No, no, no. pitch and they won that game and that's it no no uh then they won seven more they won seven in a row after grimace throughout the pitch and everybody has been speculating this is grimace is doing because like some of the wins have come with like bizarre errors by the opponents like so grimace's magic is like malevolent it's like fucking people up like it's causing other teams to have errors and yeah fall down and hurt themselves so i they finally, the Grimace winning streak came to an end and a loss to the Texas Rangers last night. Get them back out there. Yeah, I mean, they weren't going to win every game. Grimace can only do so much.
Starting point is 01:02:57 I don't like that. I don't like that kind of limited thinking. I think they should lean the fuck into this and hope to fucking God this is what's going on, that Grimace is the savior of their season. I think that really need, I think they should lean the fuck into this and hope to fucking God. This is what's going on. That grimace is the savior of their season. I think that would be, that'd make for a better angels in the outfield type movie.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Yeah. Just talking about that with Blair. Grimace should be like their Jobu from. Yeah. Major league. Exactly. Whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:22 Offensive. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. I remember that always blew my mind when i started watching 24 and like yeah my like movie conscious like mike yeah like my connect like my awareness around dennis hazebert's career was like murky so he showed him like dude that's fucking serrano from major league the president is serrano? He's American? I thought that guy was foreign. So stupid.
Starting point is 01:03:47 Like, just not understanding what a fucking movie is. But also, what an insult to the fucking players. Like, it's fucking Grimace, man. And I get that a lot of it was, like, self-inflicted by their opponents. But that's got to be terrible for morale. When everyone's like, dude, we got to fucking pray to our Grimace statue tonight. Because that's what's going to morale when everyone's like dude we gotta fucking pray to our grimace statue tonight because yeah that's what's gonna help these all right so i've heard it said baseball player is not always the smartest and in many cases not like is there a sport of the
Starting point is 01:04:17 professional athlete is there any sport though where we would say that we're like you know those guys yeah i would say smart baseball uh often or uh basketball offensive linemen and quarterbacks tend to be really have to be really smart but i feel like baseball players are pretty smart insanely superstitious more than i feel like yeah exactly exactly they're super super like right so they're very superstitious yeah they're i feel like like the the red socks had that big turnaround around the team motto that they were the idiots. I think like they,
Starting point is 01:04:50 they called themselves the idiots. I think in baseball, it actually helps to be like proudly stupid. So in some cases, and so I feel like this would actually be a good thing for them to rally behind. Just be like, yeah, great. It's good.
Starting point is 01:05:06 Like we now just like say our prayers to Grimace before we go out there. Because, yeah, it's happening. One way or another, a player was literally asked, how much credit do you give to Grimace during a post-win interview? Like literally. That happened. I hope that straight face that player said all of it oh yeah we don't even know what we're doing give them all the credit brandon you're always very articulate but i want
Starting point is 01:05:31 you to be very thoughtful about this next answer how much credit do you guys give to grimace for this reason i mean uh hey you know i i don't know i don't know about coincidences. So, you know, I mean, he definitely correlates with us, you know, going on this run. And, you know, if that's what you want to attribute it to, then I'm all for it. Whatever it is, let's keep it going. I'm all for it. There it is. I like that he was just sort of like correlation and causation. He was like keeping the relationship straight even in his answer.
Starting point is 01:06:06 I know. He's like, well, it does correlate with this. Well, fuck me then. This guy knows correlation causation. This guy, no, you're right. This guy's pretty smart. Yeah. Whatever it is, let's keep it going.
Starting point is 01:06:16 Yeah. He also doesn't want to lean into it. He's like, because in his mind, he's like, we can't let him know it's because of Grimace, man. I think it's his mouth that makes it look so much like he's coming. Like, that fucks it up. I'm sorry, who is? Grimace. Sorry, not the baseball player we were just talking about.
Starting point is 01:06:31 Oh, okay. I was just looking at a picture of Grimace, and his mouth just looks... It is like... Yeah. Plus, he's sort of always looking down at his sexual partners in the eyes that are like, you like that? Yeah, his eyeline match does is you know could be read as pornographic if you were looking to read it thus thusly i am and we are and we
Starting point is 01:06:52 always are and that's why we love you daniel van kirk uh so wonderful having you back on the zeitgeist where can people find you follow you all that good stuff Go to danielvankirk.com. This July, I'm doing Hub City Comedy Week, a week of me doing shows every single night as a couple of reasons. One, I get to pretend I live in Chicago again in the summer for a week, and I'm building that new hour. You can watch the one I just dropped on YouTube. You can also listen to it wherever you listen to comedy. It's called Rose Gold. I hope you check it out. DanielVankirk.com for all my dates.
Starting point is 01:07:30 And Rory Scoble and I do Pen Pals on Patreon exclusively. And Dumb People Town I do with the Sklar Brothers. Have forever. It's a fun dumb show. And I'm this summer launching The Midnight Air, the other side of the coin to what you guys do. It's a fun dumb show. And I'm this summer launching The Midnight Air, the other side of the coin to what you guys do. It's a nighttime podcast, about 20 to 30 minutes an episode. And it's for people who are trying to go to sleep or trying to stay awake.
Starting point is 01:07:56 Just a chill nightly podcast called The Midnight Air. So look down and look up for that. That's versatility. You're able to do a single podcast to keep people awake and put them to sleep hell yeah that's amazing yeah that sounds good i like the title midnight air all right is there a work of media daniel vankirk that you've been enjoying yes i put it in our document now it's not it's not a twix which is twitter x it's not a Twix, which is Twitter X. It's not a Twix.
Starting point is 01:08:28 It's a TikTok. And you don't stop. It is a woman who, as most people do who have pets they love, created a song out of love for this pet. And it might be my summer banger. Oh, wow. Without even playing the video, just the way this old woman is holding the cat,
Starting point is 01:08:45 I know I'm about to fucking levitate out of my seat. I've got a little cat just as bad as he can be. And everywhere I go, he follows me. He gets into everything I do. You may not believe it, but it's all true. Uh-huh, go on. I've got some work I need to do today but cat wants me to stop and play he knows just how to get his way so i'll do my work another day i liked it. I liked it. I love it.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Somebody said, Grandma, sing your cat song. And she delivered. Yeah. That was like the end of 8 Mile. Yeah. Fucking heat rocks out that. Songs we make up to sing to our
Starting point is 01:09:41 animals are my favorite thing. Yes, or children for sure. Some of the dumbest songs. Yeah, there's one. But that one, I got one too. Part of me is like, do I reveal? I'm like, no, something's got to be secret.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Yeah, keep that for you. Because I battle Her Majesty over, because there's a form to the song, and we improv off of it. And it gets, it's an escalation pure escalation that's life that's beautiful at a certain point it's turning into like an improv battle and less than singing to the baby and we're like that was pretty good that was good that was bars all right i just see that oh that's so great it's easy when they're like around six,
Starting point is 01:10:26 because then all you have to do is change one of the lyrics to poop, and they're... Crush. Yeah. Yeah. Just destroying. Speaking of which, Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work in media you've been enjoying?
Starting point is 01:10:40 Yeah, yeah. Find me on Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. Find Jack and I on the... Jack and I? Jack and I on the basketball podcast. Miles and Jack on Madboosties. The next episode is going to be pretty fun for all you people around millennial age and older because we got a legendary basketball player. I believe that is going to be the one. The one that just dropped?
Starting point is 01:11:06 No, no, no. The one that's coming out next week. I'm saying the next, the very next one. Oh, yeah. We got somebody. We got a Hall of Famer. Not literally, but also in our hearts. And you will see when that comes. Anyway, and also find me on Talking 90 Day Fiance
Starting point is 01:11:23 on 420 Day Fiance. Tweet I like. There were so many fucking hilarious tweets because on Juneteenth, Kendrick Lamar had the pop out show with Ken and friends at the forum where it was basically just an entire concert. I mean, mostly Kendrick stuff, but also, you know, a lot of shots at Drake Fire, too. This at sun. I'm sleep tweeted fam. Kendrick Lamar has Nike shocks has on Nike shocks, man. What the fuck was Drake even thinking?
Starting point is 01:11:50 This isn't a normal human being. I just tried to Google where to buy some and my phone restarted. And that's just a stupid secret. But again, building on the mystique of Kendrick Lamar, you know, Russell Westbrook also had a great time up there. It was nice to see Russell Westbrook smiling on stage. Yeah, it was cool. Good NBA representation.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Yeah, DeMar DeRozan. Yeah, the locals showed up. All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. A tweet I've been enjoying from at Ted off the grid tweeted, the hardest part of being a parent to small children for me is the dumb questions. And it makes me feel like a monster,
Starting point is 01:12:30 but my kids asked why he couldn't take a vase to daycare. And I said, it's glass. You can't. And he said, what if a wizard made it not glass? Get out of my face. Love,
Starting point is 01:12:44 love, love, love. I love get out of my face. Get out of my face love love love i love get out of my face get out of my face get out of my face jesus christ but that that is uh yeah i appreciate it then unfortunately because the internet sucks the person had to like come back and be like guys this is sarc. I don't rip my child's whimsy away. I'm venting to fellow adults. Stop acting like I'm bin-lotted. Oh my God. But then they were like, have someone wake you up at 5 a.m. to ask you why grasshoppers have eyes
Starting point is 01:13:15 and you will see. So he is still pissed. He's still pissed. Why do grasshoppers have eyes? Why? Huh? You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist.
Starting point is 01:13:30 We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? Just a song. I've just been listening to some, like, interesting throwback instrumental music.
Starting point is 01:13:53 And actually, I think this is one of those, like, you know, it's a score from an Italian composer. The track is called Mexican Dream, and it's by Piero Piccioni, P-I-C-C-I-O-N-I. And it's just got, again, it just feels like nice background music and you're looking at a nice landscape. So again, I like relaxing things like that, especially as things get hotter and the summer is fully here. So just, you know, start off easy. Just put this on your speakers, your headphones, your car stereo, whatever. Take a nice drive with the windows down and enjoy this Mexican Dream by Piero Piccioni. know start off easy just put this on your speakers your headphones your car stereo whatever take a
Starting point is 01:14:25 nice drive with the windows down and enjoy this mexican dream by piero piccioni piero piccioni hangs out with mark majori they they kick it together and are just hot together in general so i don't know if people oh yeah maybe that's in the cold open people know about our love for Mark's majority. They're gone. Fucking hot boys. Hot boys. Right.
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