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Episode Date: May 26, 2021

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one of the first ka-singles that I ever bought when I got into my heavy metal phase. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! It's Miles Gray saying... Cold brew comes in a can, Kirkland Signature House brand. Open the can, I really love that sound. Substitute while Jack's away. Got Shrek 2 for you today. Get the AV card and hit play. Anyway, we're moving to the country. Going to eat a lot of peaches.

Thanks to Hank Scipio for that Presidents of the United States of America inspired 8K. Because I think that was your pivoting off that tweet I was talking about yesterday where you know an elder millennial if you just hit him with the first part of, Peaches come from a can. I don't know that. You don't know that one? Uh-uh. Wait, hold on.

I don't know. Peaches come in a can? I might be too old. You know, but you remember the The presidents of the United States of America Did they do Lump Yeah I know Lump I think I was out after Lump And like when they would pop up

On MTV I was like oh it's the Lump guys Lump was a catchy song That was almost like weaponized catchy Like it was so catchy That it was like, yeah, could have been developed by the CIA, along with winds of change to just like us. Yeah. And then, yeah, they teamed up with Weird Al for for Gump. He's Gump.

He's Gump. He's Gump. I mean, yeah, he's malleable on a bench. I have no idea how that song goes. Miles, we are thrilled and fortunate to be joined in our third seat by one of the very faces on Mount Zeitmore, the mountain featuring the faces of our fan favorite Daily Zeitgeist guest that's being built in my garage out of Legos and Play-Doh and spit. He is the host of the podcast,

The Worst Idea of All Time, in which he watched Grown Ups 2, Sex and the City 2, once a week for a year, Till Death Do Us Blart, which is going to be going on for the rest of his life, I believe. Once a year, he will be watching Paul Blart 2

until he expires. He is the hilarious stand-up comedian who you've probably seen making fun of american accents on his comedy central yeah what the fuck the fuck is up with that bro uh he is the brilliant and talented guy montgomery what's up oh wow it's it's all. I just think you guys talk funny. Obviously not to you, but to me. To me. What's the funnest sound Americans make? You're always like, oh, I don't know.

Oh, boy. Because the thing I love about Kiwi accent is saying like when chips kind of becomes chups oh yeah or like any of that orange that you know that sort of australian kiwi sort of sound yeah those are my favorites but i guess it's just our oh yeah we swap a lot of eyes for use yeah we don't even know we're doing it and when we do it no one down here polices it we all just sort of we know what each other is saying you get it right yeah it doesn't sound odd to the ear it turns i hadn't i hadn't thought about it but without traveling and our borders being closed there's been a lot less um sort of teasing about our hilarious cadence

right you know we've all been striding around the country talking confidently. And I get an email that says, you want to come on the Daily Light, guys? And I say, sure. That sounds nice. I'm sure that won't be damaging for my self-esteem. Right out the gate.

Here we are. Bang. We've had enough of your confident speaking. Hey, sick deck you built out here. Nice cock. What? Wow. That is not right.

That's why people get New Zealanders to say nice deck. Oh, right. The belief is that we're describing a penis. So penis obsessed as a people. Yeah. That's all Americans.

Wait, so I mean, Guy, were you joking or not? You're saying like, tourists come and clown your accents on your land? Or not your land, but you know, where your people settled. People, yeah.

Yeah. Australians mostly. Australians are like, they're high school bullies. They're like, they're our high school bullies. They're like, you are Australia to Canada. Oh, right. So it is kind of true, like that relationship that they showed in Flight of the Conchords. Yes, they love to ruffle our hair and tell us it's all okay.

And it was all okay. When Ketha comes over. Yeah, yeah. Before they ruffled our here, it was fine. Oh, man. Well, it's so good to have you back on the Daily Zeitgeist. We are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, just a few of the things we're talking about.

We're going to talk about the right finally taking a stand against anti-Semitism. Where did that come from? We're going to talk about teaching American history accurately, being a plot from the devil, and how the Catholic Church is ghostbusting that shit. We'll talk about the Olympics. The Japanese people do not want them there. And we'll talk about why they're still happening we'll talk about fans being back at sporting

events, at the movie theaters, so we'll talk about that plenty more, but first guy you know we like to ask our guests, what's something from your search history? Oh yeah you guys love asking your guests that we love it

you know I was doing this last night before i went to bed and one of the most recent ones is horse idioms i was writing a joke about horses and then i realized there are so many horse idioms i thought i could try and go on a run and so i just i was just looking at a list of idioms about horses. Lead a horse to water. Don't lick it in the mouth when you get it as a gift. Don't lick a gift horse in the mouth? Yeah, don't lick a gift horse in the mouth.

But did they just make up the word gift horse or is that a thing? I actually could not trace the etymology of that. And, you know, it's a shame because the mouth is traditionally the most beautiful and detailed part of the gift horse. Yes. Yeah. Got to look at our chompers. Hold your horses. Yes.

They only live to be about 20 years and they'll be gone before you know it. So hold them close. Yeah. As they drift off to sleep standing up. Yeah. Uh, so yeah, I, I actually didn't wind up using pretty much any of them,

but I'm up to my gills with horse idioms. Up to your main. Yeah. Main would have been better than gills. Yeah. Whatever. I'm actually waiting for you to complete this joke guy, because just knowing you're just mastery of words and you're just delivery. I'm actually waiting for you to complete this joke, Guy, because just knowing your mastery of words and your delivery, I'm just excited to hear you're writing a joke that's about just getting deep on horse idioms.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Were there too many horse idioms that you couldn't fit them all and you didn't want to beat a dead horse? I mean, I don't... Come on, Jack. Quit horsing around. We're trying to figure out what his process is. Okay. I see the Rift Train's leaving the station.

Without you? Yeah, without me. The one that I zeroed in on was actually... And one day I might post a clip online was about straight from the horse's mouth. Yeah. Obsessed with horses. What the fuck is that?

I say, we got to shut up. This gossiping horse. Trotting around town. These horses can't keep a secret. Exactly. So that's what we got to with that. And the one comedic take about Donald Trump that everyone was like, yep, that's the right one. We can all stop was the horse in the hospital from John Mulaney.

Yeah, that's right. We just need things put into the shape of horses for the human brain. It's probably dating back to when we used to equate car power with how many horses. Horse power, yeah. There's a lot of horsepower on that uh on that joke construction there it's so funny to come up with that metric when it was probably relevant and be using it in 2021 no one has any notion of how powerful no basis for comparison oh 700 horses you say it's so abstract yeah that seems like it would be a real clusterfuck if you tried

to get 700 horses to pull something they'd be going in different directions oh what a mess now why would he just freaking people out with just the number of horses you're saying the horse I was like I mean you're getting about 400 horses here i look i don't oh oh boy who's gonna shoe them and oh i don't know actually i think we'll i think i'll stick to the wagon yeah um what is something you think is overrated guy oh man flags flags uh every i don't know if it's because i haven't left new zealand or people just fly more of them but i feel like so many people have got the new zealand flag up at their house and i just whenever i see it i always think yeah you got it i know the right one i am also here Right It's happening

I mean yeah You guys love your flag Yeah actually I will say The Your flag has become Something It's a more complicated Symbol than it was

But the graphic design One thing that That cannot be taken away Is you guys have a Very good looking flag I think That means a lot to me guys It's fucking whack

Really? If you Neuralized me Men in Black style and then made me- And took away any context from what- Took away any context, I bet the American flag would be like top 10 flags in terms of like, that's an objectively good looking flag. Yeah, I think it's cool. We got a stinker. I would probably be down with the Mozambique flag because I just love that it has an AK-47 and a hoe on it and shit.

And you're just like, oh, yeah, let's go here. We off to Mozambique. Yeah. But yeah, I think... Wait, so but the flag thing, is that normal? Like around Anzac Day, you know, oh yeah you've got yeah do you fly a lot of flags and things like that yeah yeah the the flag is it's representative here the way it is you know in a lot of countries but i just you know it's the sort of it's the day-to-day

sort of just flag flying everywhere oh yeah i always think you know i'm not getting that confused but maybe some people are maybe i assume it's mostly like old, wealthy people who need constant reminders of the country that they're in. But is it tied to like sort of like how in America, if you see someone loaded up on flags, you're like, this is probably some kind of ethno-nationalist type person. Is it the same? Is it adjacent vibes? Or you're literally like, it's probably just an old nice person. It's not quite with the same vim and vigor.

Right. If you see a lot of flags anywhere, I always think it's like, okay, this person feels strongly about things. But it's like our own sort of New Zealand version of it. It means that they're not totally chill, but there's still probably a bit chill.

Right. There's, um, we're going to have flags, Jack. Yeah. I'm just in the, I'm in the market for some flags.

The O'Brien family crest flag. Cause that's another thing that you see. I used to see a lot of like horse farms in Kentucky would be like people flying their like coat of arms flag. I love that. I love that the horses and the flags and the whole thing, it's all coming together quite nicely. It's all coming together. And there's a lot of idiomatic flags, the red flag, the white flag, the checkered flag. Yeah.

Yeah. the checkered flag yeah yeah but there's the jersey shore and even the part of the jersey shore that i go to that i i tend to argue is not is not the one that you see on the mtv special there's full of kind you know fine people from the philadelphia area but there are so many flags and it's just american flag or eagles or it's almost always american flag or eagles uh the philadelphia eagles nfl eagles and that's it like it's just interesting that sometimes you can get to a point in a community where not having a flag says more where it's like those people fly a flag they're they're like you know conspicuously not flying the flag yeah keep your eye on them over there yeah they don't have any allegiance

to anything right we believe in nothing what is something you think is underrated guy i gotta tell you we're all experiencing it right now underrated podcasting at 6 30 a.m i got a full moon out my window there's not a single sign of daybreak and when you were running through the topics we're going to cover in this episode i thought wow i'm really going to wake up and get educated in real time right you ready to talk anti-seemitism in a second, Guy, at 630? Have a couple hours of sleep with our wicked accents? Yeah. I'm ready.

I'm ready. Guy, the thing you have to understand. That's my impression of your impression of an American accent. Oh, Guy. Was that joke about podcasts or just american guys it was just american guys it's just guys american men know lots and in new zealand we we sort of downplay what we know so if you know a lot about something and someone goes do you know about this you go oh a little bit yeah and in america if you say a little bit then they're like all right well don't worry i'll educate you right in new zealand there's like this mutual understanding that means

that you sort of know enough that it's okay yeah and so it took me a while to unlearn that part where it's like you have to broadcast information and confidence just so that you don't wind up being talked to right right um yeah you're just like at a like a frozen yogurt place in la you're like yeah you know how this works you're like yeah i think you just put the time here's the deal guy i'm just gonna call you i don't know if that's even your name all right guys here's what you're gonna get this cup and you're gonna pull this lever like this man and then it's gonna come out get it to the amount that you want it to the thing is they weigh it so if you go too heavy on the pro yo you're gonna be paying through teeth for this stuff you have to go light on the toppings miles you joke but that is like honestly what it

is like as a tourist in america and then a four hour long bubba gump style recounting of every type of uh frozen yogurt flavor there is mango now that's that's if you're going uh pinkberry if you're going red mango uh you, it's a whole different ballgame. Yeah. And then it evolves into you just tied up in a basement with your eyes pried open like you're in the fucking Ludovico treatment and fucking clockwork orange. Yeah.

I just asked if Sprite came out of this fountain. That's it. Why am I bound to this chair? I was being polite I knew Oh man this guy Hey Brenda this guy's never used one of the coke machines So you can make it taste like anything Yeah get the chloroform

We're gonna have to educate this guy Get the chloroform Oh my god Oh no Educate this guy. It's good to laugh. It is good to laugh sometimes. Speaking of the full moon outside your window, is that that flower moon? No, no. We're getting a full blood moon tonight. And I was reading yesterday in the local newspaper,

I'm visiting my folks in Arrowtown, New Zealand, birthplace of the world-famous arrow, which you guys might use. The symbol or the tool? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They help you get places. This is prime viewing spot for the blood moon, which is the – Oh, yes. Yeah, there's a full lunar eclipse at 11 p.m. this evening.

If I can stay awake that long, I'm very excited. You're up getting in line for a good spot for that viewing, huh? Yeah. 6.30. Wait, what's the flower moon? What was that thing you were talking about, Jack? I think it's called like a flower blood moon. Like there's a convergence of moon types that make this one extra unique.

Yeah. I just wish I knew more about moons so I could talk some New Zealanders ear off about them. Don't feel too badly about it, man. It's okay. It's not that interesting. We haven't even got a guy there, you know? Right. Right.

Yeah. Oh, man. I would love to talk to you about the moon race. Hold on. Oh, wait. Hold on. You think we got to the moon? Yeah, Brenda.

Brenda. Get the floor. Floor. Just wild-eyed. Get the lithium this time. Get the lithium. What do you mean lithium? Oh, shit.

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And now it turns out the right in America, the right wing in America, the conservative part of the country, Republicans. It's also like the mainstream media seems to be using the phrase anti-Semitism more than they were even during the Trump administration when people were going into synagogues and committing like the most deadly anti-semitic attack of all time it seems like now is a time when anti-semitism has become a a central uh tenant of the conversation in america the uptick in the anti-semitic hate crimes that's come out of you know just the news of the conflict or, you know, the attacks from Israel against Palestine. It's allowed a group of hateful people to sort of seize that moment to sort of begin using like to conflate on their own people being critical of the Israeli government with these people's hateful agenda of against jewish people or the religion of judaism and yeah like you're saying you know that this has been kind of the brand for the gop is sort of turning a blind eye to anti-semitic rhetoric especially when it's coming from their side um because you if you know you look at marjorie taylorapo from the House. She recently made a comment of likening mask wearing the mandated mask wearing to like the Holocaust.

And everyone was like, that is just the worst take. Stop saying stuff like this, especially what's happening right now with all the saints. Like, just like, what are you doing? Most people came out pretty quickly to call it out. Whereas, you know, Kevin McCarthy, the house minority leader, took a very long time. And then finally, just this week, yesterday said, oh, I totally disagree with her. That's so bad and wrong. You know what I mean?

But then I had to do his own research. Miles, he had to do his own research. Like people on the right are always telling me that I'm doing my own research, too. like the people on the right are always telling me to i'm doing my own research too and i was i was remembering it was only in fucking february or the end of january when they tried to oust her from the house because of all the nonsense she was saying this is if you recall she was doing things like like during her campaign posing with white supremacists and then refusing to announce them sharing videos where there's a holocaust denier on saying that there's quote an unholy alliance of leftist capitalists and zionist

supremacists have they have schemed to promote immigration and miscegenation with the purpose of breeding us out of existence in our own homelands that was someone you know she shared that video she she also uh approved she said she was like behind, not behind, but supportive of a claim that the Israeli intelligence service assassinated JFK. And then like the Rothschilds were using, I remember, lasers from space to set forest fires. Yep. And one hundred ninety nine of these Republicans voted to keep her in the house. Republicans voted to keep her in the house. Right. Yet now, because of, you know, I think because sort of the deference to the Israeli government has sort of just been the norm for mainstream politics on the left or the right.

This is now sort of suddenly now the this sort of stand against anti-Semitism is like the tack they're using to sort of protect the status quo. And it just it just smacks of such hypocrisy, given all of the things that's happened, even like you're saying with Trump and him calling the people at Charlottesville good people on both sides, even though they were saying things like Jews will not replace us. It's a real head scratcher now to see that this is part of them trying to gain some kind of moral high ground. Yeah, it's interesting. Alan Dershowitz a month ago accused Bernie Sanders of being anti-Semitic for criticizing the Israeli government's policy towards Palestinian people. Bernie Sanders, who is a practicing Jewish politician, was, yeah, he's anti-Semitic, but Dershowitz is all on board with

the party that is backing Marjorie Taylor Greene. It just kind of puts the lie to everything that they, I don't know, this line of argument that you can't criticize the Israeli government without being anti-Semitic. But then you have people in the party who are like george soros and the the people of his ilk they're blood suckers and you're like what i'm sorry that is you're not going to say anything about that that is what those are the seeds that they're sowing right so it's really and because i think sadly all forms of, you know, Islamophobia, transphobia, racism, anti-Semitism just become part of a brand where they are trying to like sort of court new voters. It's just becoming this. I don't know. It almost seems like just an easy thing for them to just keep doubling down on this rhetoric for more fringe voters. Yeah. And Islamophobia is almost never talked about in the mainstream media as a problem. dangerous. But then what are they doing to actually address these things? If racism and police violence are dangerous things, what are the solutions to them? Because it's just always

this disingenuous thing of like pointing to a problem saying, yes, that's bad, but we're not going to do anything about it. And those little embers that they don't extinguish just turn into these gigantic, violent wildfires that we have to you know encounter in real physical space right all right let's talk about the catholic church uh we always try and bring it up you know at least once every episode uh the catholic church the goat you know been doing it for the longest uh just crushing it but there's a piece of the New Republic about how there are priests doing exorcisms to help protect this good Christian land from critical race theory. Essentially. Yeah.

This is just a list of what people have been doing. In Portland, an archbishop led a procession into a public park where he conducted a Latin exorcism to dispel the evil spirits left by a racial justice activism who were there just in the name of social racial justice a priest had to come be like we got to get these bad vibes fucking out of here uh the very same day in san francisco another archbishop did a similar right at a site where they basically pulled down a father of Junipero Serra, who California kids know, like we were taught he was the Spanish friar who came and, you know, helped the indigenous people convert to Christianity and created the missions and all the El Camino Real or forcibly had these indigenous people convert to Christianity.

So this man and then also just the violence that was enacted on his behalf, but he was with like nuns praying the rosary all again to purify this place. And we're seeing this kind of turn into many different avenues, like where, yes, there are even like, there are people who are saying that things like intersectionality and Marxism

and Black Lives Matter and critical race theory are like works of the devil they're demonic and they need to be exercised and this is just sort of i think a wave of clergy that are just doing more than cheering on donald trump which they didn't become too rare at that time because of his you know anti-abortion stance. But now these people are weaponizing these religious rights to create this moral high ground panic around these societal shifts to just keep the culture wars going. Won't they be sectioning members of their churches further and further afield from like, I mean, I don't know what the future for traditional Christianity or whatever it is, but are these outliers within religion in

america or is this i mean in the u.s the catholic church has not doesn't have a great record on progress because you'll have things where like you know nancy pelosi is like i'm a good catholic and then her archbishop comes out with a wild take that's like completely like you're like whoa no no no that's not i don't even think think Jesus would have got down with that take right now. But I think it's because there is this really interesting thing about especially with the Catholic Church in the United States. There is this book written by Father Brian Massingale, a black priest, and he talks about how U.S. bishops, they were always condescending towards the civil rights activists. condescending towards the civil rights activists and the also thing within the catholic church in the united states and i'm sure just i've everywhere as we see it's all sort of centered around like whiteness um like from the aesthetics to the music to the theology and on top of that they also look

at racism as like an individual problem like a bad habit versus a societal one where we're actually acknowledging sort of these systems of oppression. And because of that, it keeps the church from being able to have a really proper reckoning to even look at, you know, their own introduction of slavery into the United States or their history with segregation of black students in schools or churches and things like that. The churches would just be clutching to whatever sort of reach and power they, you know, I can't imagine any church that's spearheaded by an old white guy is really going to take a look at itself in the mirror and readdress anything.

You know, I i mean i would say that like it's it's definitely different based on different churches and different priests and like i've definitely seen catholic priests who are very social justice minded and like really focused on like the unhoused community and like charity work and just this is the this is the traditional or the assumed you know this is what a church what church is what you would think right right yeah but then i do think that there is because of the way i mean it kind of ties into what we were talking about just the way that religion has been politicized and weaponized and you, it's just a cudgel used to fight these cultural battles in a lot of cases. And the one thing that the where the U.S. Catholic Church or

just the Catholic Church in general lines up to the right is the abortion debate. And so that is, I think, exploited a lot of the time by the right and you know certain catholic bishops and certainly the catholic church says uh i'm gonna go out i'm gonna come out guys it's had its problems um it's not it's not uh batting a thousand i would say in the 20th century what's wild though is like you know it's when misogyny and like whiteness are at the center, like it's not going to it's going to have trouble shedding those habits just overall. I know, like, you know, there was the in the 60s, there was like a brief blip where the Catholic Church almost went a little more progressive, but then that tightened very quickly back up. And I think this is all with this sort of background right now, too, where, you know, in the US, there's this thing, Guy, the 1619 Project, which was written by this journalist, Nicole Hannah-Jones. It's a Pulitzer Prize-winning work of journalism, just looking at all the underpinnings and how systemic racism

since the introduction of African slavery in this country still reverberates to this day, how it's everything is still connected and drawing very clear lines from that moment to where the situation we find ourselves now in the United States. Because of the clarity of this piece and the reporting this entire project, conservatives do not want this taught because it is a unflinching look at the entire legacy of African slavery on the United States and how it built this country. And a lot of this is all because they just do not want to inform people. And that's what's really disheartening is that it's part of a thing where, again, the U.S. has many reckonings that

it has not experienced. But this one especially, we're going to the point where the board of trustees at north carolina she was meant to be in this tenured position it's a republican control this board of trustees because it's appointed by politicians in the state so because of that they were able to take her tenure away and it's caused a massive massive controversy because like this is this goes against so many norms to do this but yeah so is it all it all is protection of power i mean which is what the church has been practicing since forever and it's just like the i feel like the political and you know the visibility of the

political and religious lines and you know their shared desire to protect whatever limited power they have and like i mean yeah it's and it sounds like they're going to sideline themselves but i guess there's a huge volume of people who prescribed these beliefs and will believe what they're told by these institutions what what's what was like in new zealand right you know what's how is the sort of colonial history of new zealand taught to like you as it as like when when you're younger like how does how is the how is the country dealt with those sort of origins pretty poorly uh and it's something that's changed i mean i haven't been in school for i guess 18 years or something now but um something that's changing in in real time and like even maori which is that the tangata whenua they're the people of the land

and maori is our indigenous language the school i went to i wasn't you know you get taught the most i'd say probably at montessori i was taught the most maori i got taught in my life and then in school i wasn't really taught anything or you know the perspective of history as told by Māori and what happened when they came and got colonized. There is a slow tide change of like reckoning with that. And has there been like just as a similar, I'd imagine, backlash to people wanting to like preserve this very sanitized view of like what it means to be. Again, the people with the flags on their front lawn are calling Talkback Radio, and they are in quite a tizz. But thankfully, they don't articulate themselves with the same intensity outside of the four walls of their house. I mean, there's always pushback, but it's different.

Again, it's difficult to know because the people you surround yourselves with, you don't know whether or not the part of the country or the world that you're living in is an echo chamber and all of the stuff that you're talking about is not reflected beyond who you're who you're with but it does feel as though there's a a genuine effort taking place to actually try and yeah and i think the people who want to have that effort understand the importance of understanding your history across the board to know where you come from and the things the mistakes terrible decisions that were made along the way so they're not repeated and it's just such a it's it's so disheartening to see that something as simple as like this all happened and now your whole thing is like don't

tell fucking anybody don't teach kids about this shit right now. I can, to an extent, chart my own relationship along those lines of thought. Because I remember at school, I'm a white guy in New Zealand. New Zealand history wasn't especially interesting to me, I suppose, because the ongoing ramifications of it were that they served me. And so I didn't feel inspired to learn about it but then as time goes on you know you suddenly realize that they're very unhealthy foundations on which you're living your life and you you do want to tear it up and have a look but it's um yeah there's a huge volume of people who would rather just keep the blinkers

on and try and get to the end of their life without having to think that anything bad happened or that any of their ancestors caused any fucking carnage right right yeah i think that's pretty similar to how the united states education system works and like you were saying that the lie that you were taught is one that serves you. And so it's almost, it's just the lie is so much less interesting than the truth. And I feel like I would have been way more interested in history and literature. And if you had told me, look, you're living in an unjust society that is built on these unjust events and structures. And I think if you trusted people to learn that at a young age, when their sense of decency is intact, their insecurities aren't up. intact their you know insecurities aren't up and i think that's why there's so much invested on blocking this from happening coming from the right to the point of making it illegal to teach

to teach nobody is arguing the facts like they're trying to change the context in which they describe the facts but they're trying to make it illegal to teach history. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, I mean, I just even think of like, just as a kid, like it took my dad and grandparents to teach me more about black history than anything I learned in class because they're like, what the fuck are they teaching? They're like, no, no,

no to everything you just said back to us. That's not, what a fucked up version of things and it's funny because that actually drove my interest in history that's what i ended up studying in college because i just i was like wait hold on it sort of grabbed me saying like they're purposefully not telling you everything for whatever reason whether they think it's too much for a kid to understand or whatever there's a job i just felt like there's this untapped wealth of information that is being kept from me that is so vital to know because it also helps you understand the origin stories of cultures and things and to know like what which peoples came

and what their impact was on a given nation's culture and things like that and for the most part you just sort of grow up thinking like i don't know, Spain's like this, France is like this, England's like this, because that's what they are rather than like, hold on, there's an entire history to actually understand, to know. And everything you see now can make sense

if you can make sense of the history. It's part of the sort of homogenized, like clean lines of learning where it's like that it's not, they don't want to teach you how complicated everything is or they don't want to teach you how complicated everything is or you don't like i remember becoming or like you know coming of age you're becoming an adult and starting to find the world so complex and confusing and the thing about like

i how i it took me a moment to get my head around that if i measure it against like you know everything is just taught to the point of convenience or it's a very pure drive to learn that you had there because you identified something within the curriculum or within your school that you're like this doesn't sit right because what i'm actually being educated by the people i trust means that there's so much more that's not happening right now because i feel like and maybe you know the school chart is in the way that the curriculum is taught might be changing but yeah it's fascinating really yeah if you told me at the outset of like the process of my education that we didn't have any of the answers that like that we're still trying to figure this shit out and

it's an ongoing conversation as opposed to the thing that always bored me the most about school was this idea that well yeah so this is known we know all of this so it's actually not that interesting because it's just like it's finished right i thought science was this thing that we had figured out and now it was over and like that's that's just it and there's no real questions to answer that are worth anything. And the same thing with history at first, you know, that like history is just these events. This is the people were there. They told us this happened. And for the most part, that's how it happened. And it's, yeah, the, the actual mystery, if you just restored that to the conversation, like, mystery if you just restored that to the conversation like yeah but then when you look at enough you just sort of see these patterns of human behavior just moving cyclically constantly just with like new languages and borders and things like that but like it in a way when you look at it you begin to really see just sort of what how humanity operates and how it chooses to protect its you know ideologies or self-perception. And I think that's what's interesting about knowing these things,

because I'm sure if kids were taught about all of the things that were done to, you know, keep the institution of slavery and the lengths that people went, that you would see similar tensions now. I'm like, oh, my God, it's almost like we never handled this. It's because we haven't. But they don't want they don't want to teach kids that because i think they also see that you know this this fear for conservatives like they go to colleges and they become these like leftists or whatever it's like dude they're given new perspectives and right a lot the longer you protect that information then

the harder it comes for adults to reconcile because it like totally destabilizes the world that they think they're living in and so the greater the reluctance grows to educate yourself and then that's how you wind up with these lizards who are like nah you can't teach that right it would fuck it would fuck me up and so it would fuck anyone up right you want to make the information that kids learn it in college about like leftist values less powerful. Teach it to them when they're young. Make it so that it's always there and available to them instead of this secret information that's been hidden from them from day one.

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I guess there's usually like this impending media cloud that seems to always be looking forward to the Olympics in America, at least. I don't know if that's how it is in New Zealand, Guy. and and it's on tv and people are suddenly talking about it but the summer olympics i feel like is always a big deal with like a lead up in the media and there's qualifiers or that kind of yeah simone biles the greatest u.s gymnast of all time uh maybe the greatest gymnast of all time has been like doing this routine on the vault that is like unprecedented. And that's that's really the only piece of mainstream news I've seen that like kind of crossed over into the zeitgeist where I would have been like, wait, why are we talking about gymnastics again? Oh, there's an Olympics coming. I also realize how ignorant I am to gymnastics because like Simone Biles just does things so effortless.

I'm like, OK, that looks normal. Right, right right right and then and then i remember i think it was like franklin leonard past guest or someone was like can someone explain to me like i know this is historical this double pike your chenco that she just busted but like i don't i beyond just seeing that looks like just some very cool shit well then someone's like check out mary lou retton's 1984 vault that got her a perfect 10 in 84 and you'll see how much the game has changed and then you watch the tune like okay right she just came up mary lou retton just came up to the vault and then did a somersault underneath it and that's what got her a perfect 10 which is my my famous vault i think is that the the judges first

time seeing a gymnast i think that was the first event oh yeah wow pretty good holy shit there's an interesting experiment though if you only watch simone biles then you'd be like god wow incredible what all gymnasts can do right right And that is kind of how it is. That's the only thing that me, a non-gymnastics follower, like really sees is the greatest like single acts of. Yeah, I'm sure that's true of like all sports. I mean, it's like anything, right? Like someone might watch Jokic just land a weird shot. And we're like, yo, that is difficult.

Right. Even take a shot like that. Or people who play, you know, who think soccer is easy. Try trapping a ball that's coming from, you know, just 40 feet above your head and effortlessly just trapping the ball. There are so many little skills that like, yeah, that are born out of ignorance. That's why I'm just trying, especially with Simone Biles to inform myself so I can truly appreciate just how next level this shit is.

What you're talking about is very exciting to me, Miles. Hopefully there's some sort of large-scale international platform where the best athletes from every country can represent themselves and show us these different skills.

Well, guy, you are in luck, friend. Because Japan, Tokyo 2020, even though it's 2021. that's my favorite thing about these olympics it's like they think that no one is going to remember covid like when we look back on this that's right those went ahead in 2020 those games are going to be asterisked to hell you know what i mean like when you're looking at a do people still look at almanacs like i used to when i was playing in san diego but the whole thing with this is like right now, Tokyo is in terrible shape. Japan is in awful shape in terms of the COVID situation.

The vaccinations have like stalled out. Less than 5% of people have their first shot. Major metropolitan areas have declared states of emergency. The Osaka hospital system, they said, is completely under strain, if not like on the brink of disaster because of the amount of people that are having to be admitted. And the United States government is even telling Americans, like, don't even think about taking a trip to Japan right now. Don't even try it.

Even though, yeah, we're probably the worst place on Earth to go a few months ago, but don't even think about going there. Is that to Americans or American athletes? To Americans. Now, the United States Olympics and Paralympics Committee has said, Don't even think about not going. Yeah, exactly. Simone Biles, you better get your ass on that plane.

Right. Because we got work to do. But yeah, obviously the people representing the athletes believe that it's going to be a perfect bubble. No problem at all. Don't even worry about it. Meanwhile, the polling shows

that even the people of Japan, look, on the other side of this, prior to it, I spoke to friends and family in Japan. They were like, oh, the Olympics are coming. That'll be fun because again, any opportunity for nationalism, Japanese people love, you love you know i mean i think like most countries but

you know for japan there's like certain sports where we really excel so this felt like a good moment now 80 of the people in japan are against hosting the olympics this year 40 want a postponement 43 want a complete cancellation so you, but since a lot of money's been made, what, are we going to reprint these t-shirts? No. They printed 2020. The t-shirts become more valuable. Yeah.

I would love if these got canceled to get my hands on some Tokyo 2020 merch. That is a hot ticket. Whose spearheads a cancellation? Is it the IOC? Is it the Japanese government? How would that actually function? I think that would have to come from the IOC because the Japanese government has not put up any resistance

to the games. It's going to take the executives for the IOC to wonder is this worth it? I don't know. I don't know what their calculus is it probably does have to do with the amount of fucking merchandise that's probably been produced with the numbers 2020 on it or some shit but i don't know like i mean i would be interesting though too to see how many athletes if any refuse to participate they're like yo this is just a

reckless i'm sorry this is just this seems so reckless i don't know how i don't know if you want you want me to put myself at risk and other people like no i'm off this that is the athletic cycle of an olympic athlete is so yeah like they've got such a limited amount of opportunity to to be the best at what they do and also so many of the sports that take place the olympics are just so you know like they're not there's not a light on the shine on them in the three years in between every ceremony their careers have the life cycle of a cicada it's like you get this one chance to come out every every four years and so i mean i can i can understand purely from an athletic perspective how some of these people are like i'm god damn i've been

working so hard for this i just want to go to the olympics once like i might be there one opportunity and then but you i mean it i i feel like it's it's just it's ridiculous that it's happening and it's it sounds like yeah money drives it and if it's going to go ahead then an athlete's going to be like well i have worked towards this they're putting it on i'm not going to not go right and then it's sort of it's a similar thing happened i don't know if you guys you almost definitely don't the the ipl the indian premier league it's a t20 cricket tournament that is the most expensive in cricket it takes place every year in india and they in the face of what was ostensibly like the worst covet 19 that had happened across all of the pandemic, was raging through India.

And then they created this biosecure bubble, and millions if not billions of dollars are being spent creating this league. And they're playing cricket, and what is a biosecure bubble? And then it's so incongruous with the news you're reading about what's happening in India. And then about halfway into the tournament, there was a biosecure bubble breach and all of a sudden that highly contagious strain of covid is ripping through the players and then all of them are panicking and trying to get charter flights out of the country and you know i mean the india

it didn't have the the facilities to you know take care of its citizens, the people who live there. And I just can't help but feel like you're going to see. I mean, and I don't know if the IOC pay attention to that. They must have because it's the only other massive multinational sports league that's trying to take place in the middle of a hot spot.

But it is a very damning warning and advertisement for what is almost inevitably going to happen if these guys go ahead. I don't know what you can do to prevent that. I mean, I think in their mind, they'll be like, forget that example. What about the NBA bubble? That worked, huh? And they're like, well, don't.

That's not. Hold on. So you're selectively picking anecdotal evidence to justify this. Why, Miles, is the number of vaccinated people stalling at under 5%? Is there opposition to getting vaccines? I think it's just the distribution is just not happening as efficiently as it can. But yeah, I think just getting it available has been the hardest part. Right.

Yeah. All right. Well, staying on sports, in American sports over the weekend, it was kind of a surreal Right. Yeah. the new york knicks play was packed to the gills with people like screaming and shouting and not masked up and packed to the main sorry not the gills yeah uh and real horse's ass on that one uh there was a golf major and it went from there not being anyone on these courses, like watching the tournament to like an unprecedentedly drunk and like out of control crowd, just like crowding the players and like pouring onto the course. Like, I don't know. My dad watches these. I don't watch them.

My parents are staying with us. And that he was just he was like i've never seen anything like this they were like running up to the guy as he was like about to win the tournament like patting him on the back and like grabbing him and shit and he was like what is happening but it's i don't know it's it's surreal to see that many people in that small space in a world where we know that the U S is not really doing like strict vaccine passport, like vaccination passport, uh,

you know, the, the New York Knicks and the New York Nets, uh, Brooklyn Nets, who also had full attendance or almost full attendance. They had, they said that there was like 90% vaccination,

but I don't think they're like checking people's paperwork. Maybe, maybe they are, but I mean, maybe some level, I don't know. I'm trying to go to game three on Thursday. Yeah.

Yeah. So we'll see. I know they just say, pull up with your vax paperwork or whatever, and, or like a negative PCR test from within 72 hours, but we'll see, you know,

but people, yeah, I guess they are. Yeah. But yeah yeah but there is this energy though to the like the madison square garden game i could not believe what i was saying i think it's a combination of things it's that new it's the the knicks are in the post season again i think for starters mixed with just the post vax world that we find ourselves in. But yeah, it's, I mean, people are able to switch it up real quick. I'm like just now being like a little bit more like, yeah, fuck it, baby. I'm feeling safer-ish. Yeah.

I mean, like I flew back east over the weekend and everything is like fully masked up. And like, you know, when you up and like you know when you're inside the airport when you're on the plane like you have to be wearing a mask the whole time still somebody ordered like two drinks in a row and the flight attendant was like uh why don't we take a break because you need to put your mask back on because you've had it off like having this drink for five minutes i think there was all i think that was also at play but the situation's so bad on airplanes i'm surprised you didn't see some shit go down because didn't

a flight attendant get her or i don't know if it was uh who the who got the flight attendant got their teeth knocked out on a flight recently but that is so out of pocket but they're still like making everybody wear their masks you know i didn't i i had a you know a fake thing covering conscientious objector card that i held up sir uh it is my right uh all right get off asshole get this asshole off he's saying some kind of body provenance weird i don't know what the fuck he's talking about. But it's just funny that the place that they are letting people like finally experience the being in public without a mask is like this just unhinged like emotional environment where like it's encouraged to just lose your mind on the refs and the opposing players. Like the Knicks game, they were like chanting swears at like this young young this guy was like really good player young shit yeah and he did tell them

to shut the guy what's it been like for you man because i know you've been really quiet during this whole section because probably because you haven't i know new zealand's in a bad place you guys haven't had crowds in a minute so this probably sounds like fantasy talk to you yeah yeah we can only dream i mean yeah we've had crowds at sports games since i feel like maybe july or august last year and um the plan was to um it was elimination. It means that, you know, watching these American sports games and stuff, and you see people, like all these people who are clearly pissed up and packed in close proximity to people

who presumably they didn't come to the game with, with a mask hanging around their chin or off in the air or like holding it to gesticulate. Just waving germs everywhere. Exactly. We didn't, no one's wearing masks at the stadiums because

the only like you have to wear masks on public transport you have to wear masks on airplanes but in the airport you're not wearing a mask like i don't actually know what the functionality of it is and you know it seems crazy to me that you wouldn't wear one all the way through the airport if you've got this this sort of idea but um just on the plane yeah but so no i mean there's we've even recently we've started playing um there was a super rugby altearoa competition which was like just within national borders there are five franchises who play rugby against each other and then in the last two weeks we've got an open travel bubble with australia now so quarantine free travel between the two countries and we've started an open travel bubble with australia now so quarantine free travel between the two

countries and we've started playing uh super rugby australasia i think is what it's called or whatever and now we're playing international matches and you're watching sports games in australia where again people aren't wearing masks but i mean it's like going to a sports game was the first one of the first things i did when we got let out of lockdown. And it was like the sense of, I can viscerally remember the intensity and the relief and the excitement and just, you know, being in a crowd. And all of that emboldened and underscored by the fact that we knew that we had isolated, like that, you know, we had eliminated COVID-19.

And so the consequence was not there but i think it's it's just too i mean your guys experience of it and your relationship to it so different i can't imagine how difficult it would be to go to an nba game if you're in new york and you support the knicks and you're at madison square garden for the first time what 10 years or something and you've just gotten out of your house for the first time in two years right you got to remember to fucking keep a mask over your your mouth like yeah trey young probably can't hear you the only way that you're going to get through them is if you can read your lips yeah right yeah it's it's a it's the assumed responsibility keeps getting passed down to the individual like it's it's yeah the same thing with just like with

the cbc's bizarre like mask mandates were like i don't yeah if you should well actually i don't know maybe if well how old's your kid and it's like what are the fucking rule what the fuck y'all are the oh forget it essentially as a way to let businesses put it on businesses now to say that's on you to decide because we don't we don't want to be the boogie person anymore for the chamber of commerce who is allowed, like these politicians are allowing, allowing them to put more pressure on us and the other people who are trying to do right by this pandemic.

Yeah. And also just box office continues to be, you know, it's not fully there, but it does seem like the people who are releasing movies are getting a better return than like the wrath of man jason statham's new movie is going to be the best performing jason statham movie to date despite being like almost indistinguishable from uh other jason statham to a non-statham head yeah i'm not gonna sit by while you poo-poo the filmography of the great jason statham but like the met you

couldn't get i could not tell you the difference between the wrath of man and the mechanic two uh like in terms of mechanic two yeah one of them's a sequel for a start yeah my bad but it's just i feel like people studios are probably realizing that they're leaving money on the table if they're continuing to not release movies like there's just no competition so you can really like do well and demon slayer is continuing to it's now made 45 million in america alone and is the biggest movie ever in japan with uh 400 million dollars and it's the biggest grossing movie of 2020 wait till fast nine comes out jack yeah then we'll start seeing you know what i mean because the family man when your

family or whatever the fuck that line what is it all of when you're here your family maybe that's all of garden not fast and furious yeah but it's i'm the two share remarkable thematic similarities it does i did like the energy around that fast and furious movie though is kind of funny to see like even though it seems jokey but this does feel like a good time for a movie like that to come out in the u.s for at least the people who want to be safe and go to theater but yeah yeah and new zealand they've been playing i'm sure they're doing it in america too you can go to the cinema and watch all the fast films at the moment they're just rolling them out oh really so cool yeah they haven't done that that sounds great that's a great idea damn it because you can't really

understand america yeah you can't understand f9 if you haven't recently taken an f1 through it do i need to know the past material to understand this installment uh yes what do you think you're gonna're going to make sense of a flying car in the fucking sky? No. It was a light crescendo to this point. It's less about the flying car and more about the relationships between the people in

the car. In the flying car. Right, right. So you're hung up on the car part and it's in the air. What about the air between the characters and the characters contained within? And if people watch one through eight and have questions about why someone who always talks about family, the Vin Diesel character who's obsessed with family, never mentioned his brother before this one. Yeah. You know.

Oh, he has a brother in this one. Yeah, bro. John Cena. He should have also mentioned his brother is John Cena. That's a fucking big deal. That's an interesting casting decision. Okay. Yeah.

Cool. Anyways, Guy, is F9 out in New Zealand? No, no. Not yet. Are you just treating New Zealand like a fantasy world? Like, is Fashion Furious 10 already out there? Oh, man. And there's no covid that's cool although it's probably not as big a deal to have flying cars there since you actually have flying

cars in new zealand right we do and the horsepower on them is something unfathomable guy as always such a pleasure having you Where can people find you and follow you? You can find me at Guy underscore Mont on Twitter and on Instagram. Two social media platforms I wish I could leave, but cannot yet bring myself to. That's where you can find me. Nice. Is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying oh yeah there

was a tweet that really cracked me up it was from a few days ago but i knew this was coming up so i saved it i'm just getting it up it was um by an account called i don't know who this guy is jonathan haynes at jonathan haynes and he's just written what an excellent five paragraphs and it's a screen cap of a BBC News entertainment article and the screen cap reads Coldplay's Chris Martin says that the pandemic has forced him to reassess his relationship with fame and I quote last year was quite an eye-opener he told BBC Radio 2 was like, who am I without Wembley Stadium saying, you're awesome. I'm trying in my life right now to not attach too much to being a pop star. I'm trying not to get my self-worth from external validation, end quote. He was speaking as Coldplay

unveiled their new single, Higher Power. They premiered the 80s-inspired pop song on board the International Space Station overnight, teaming up with french astronaut thomas pescay who beamed the music back to earth by satellite oh my god how is that not oh that's so brilliant it's just like the most perfect satire piece of you know satire yeah yeah i mean that's but it's real straight up uh spinal tap miles where can people find you what's a tweet you've been enjoying twitter instagram miles of gray also twitch.tv slash 420 day fiance some tweets that i like oh boy let's see uh this one is from at hey mando k tweeting lol joe biden hasn't forgiven a cent of my student loans and he's emailing me for cash. Nice try, buddy.

in a tuxedo vaping leonardo caprio on a yacht vaping and then the other side we have kate winslet in mayor of east town vaping and two different scenes and it just says near wherever you are hitting these vapes so fucking hard uh and then one last one is from past guest greg edwards at g Greg the Grouch. He tweeted Do they have O'Doul's for mushrooms? Yeah. Stupid. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. Tim Barnes

at Tim Barnes 451 tweeted this summer I'll be walking around shirtless in New York with a boom box blasting podcasts and then I had another screen cap uh like guys that I wanted to read if you'll indulge me Robert Moore tweeted wait hold on what uh and tweeted a screen cap from book forum when Einstein died in, his brain was removed during an unsanctioned autopsy at a hospital in Princeton. Later at the University of Pennsylvania, a pathologist named Thomas Stoltz Harvey sliced it up for research purposes, but kept some of the

slivers for himself. In 1988, Harvey, who'd since been stripped of his medical license, moved to Lawrence, home of the University of Kansas, where he presented one of the slivers to local author William S. Burroughs. After whose death in 1997, it passed into the possession of, I'm going to stop now because I don't want to get anyone in trouble. Let's just say that when I was in Lawrence teaching at KU, this was a thing that still happened, a hazing that was also an homage. You scooped the bit of Einstein's brain out of the jar and shook off the Wow. and tongue and you couldn't be understood you couldn't even feel yourself trying to make language that's a real thing that is happening as we speak presumably in kansas they're sucking on a chunk of einstein's brain and getting high off from out of hut the world is a very weird place so fucked up and i don't even want to think of the cool same time i wouldn't i mean i i would totally write that into my will if i thought people would actually suck up my brain because who knows you

know sounds like an incredible high right i mean and also you're probably it god can you imagine the insufferable asshole who just came off of a einstein brainender. And he's like, dude, you don't even know. Like, this shit I'm understanding now is like microdosing. Like, you haven't done it. I don't even know how to explain it to you. Anyways, you can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com,

where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy miles. What song should people check out today? I'm just still thinking of the process of that shot. You, you put some salt right here on your thumb, you lick it,

you do a shot and then you're sucking on the brain matter instead of the lime. But then that piece goes back in the formaldehyde. Yeah, bro. I mean, You do a shot, and then you're sucking on the brain matter. Instead of the lime. But then that piece goes back in the formaldehyde. Yeah, bro. I mean, you're not going to get anybody else's germs. The formaldehyde is going to kill that. I'm just thinking of the structural integrity of that little sliver of gray matter. You know what I mean?

How many suckings can it handle before it starts turning to gravy in your mouth? We're talking about freaking Albert Einstein's brain, Miles. I think it's pretty strong. Do you imagine? I'm like hell bent. I'm like, Jack, I'm leaving the show to try and become a biology person at KU. I'm going to chew on that motherfucking brain.

I'm going to find out. But it is such like fourth grade logic that these like the people at the height of whatever their academic pursuits are engaging in. Anyway, the song. What else? The song we write out on. This is going to be a track by Dirty Art Club. I've done a few tracks by Dirty Art Club before, but this one is called Videotape.

And this whole album is called FMTI. is called videotape and this whole album is called fmti it's a very it's like like spooky background music because it's not just quite like cheesy you know like sort of music that would just be playing there's good curation and production around it and giving a little more vintage sound so it's like a very familiar it feels like sort of if dj shadow took it easy on like the hardness of the beats and stuff and just gave you a little something that he was sampling from. But still with some funk. So check this out. Videotape by Dirty Art Club. Alright.

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