The Daily Zeitgeist - F#@%, Marry, Cillian; FURBY THE MOVIE 07.06.23

Episode Date: July 6, 2023

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get your podcast presented by elf beauty founding partner of iheart women's sports hello the internet and welcome to this episode of what hello the internet and welcome to season 294 episode one of your daily production of our radio this is a podcast where we take a deep dive into america's shared consciousness it's thursday july 6th 2023 wow this feels kind of spot on and i don't want to be stereotypical but it's national fried chicken day and national sushi hand roll day Chicken Day and National Sushi Hand Roll Day. Wow. At the same damn time. It's also National International Kissing Day. And the image is of two parrots kissing, which, again, now evokes the pigeons.

Now kiss. But anyway, yeah. Look, a wonderful day. Wonderful day. Amazing. Well, my name is Jack O'brien aka do do do grimace come do do do grimace come you put the bang bang into my gut it makes my heart sky high when my guzzling starts grimace come into my shake goes a drip drip drip till my tummy aches. That is courtesy of Casserole Casanova.

Thank you, Casserole Casanova. I needed to get a Grimace Come one in because we are thought leaders in the Grimace Shake space. The meme did turn from people drinking the Grimace Come milkshake and suddenly horrible things happening to them too over the weekend. A lot of Grimace Cum milkshake bukkake videos, which we were onto it. We were on this thing. The leading edge.

This is maybe the proudest I've ever been of anything we've done with this podcast. And on this, fried chicken and sushi hand roll day of all days. That's right, of all days. You come to me on fried chicken and sushi hand roll day of all days that's right of all days you come to me on fried chicken and sushi hand roll day and tell me about this yeah i'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host mr miles gray you don't got a big day but you say your ass is clean

but you say your ass is clean oh baby you block your ass is clean. Oh, baby! You. Lockeroni, thank you for that. Just a friend, aka, because when Jack Keese was on last week, we were talking about the bidet. It's the only way to guarantee. Just got a power wash, you know? Get that thing clean. Yeah, bidets all day. Thank you so much for having me.

All bidet. Well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined by one of our favorite guests here on the podcast bigger than a guest the original hip-hop day one super producer of the daily zeitgeist and many of the first rate podcasts on this network such as this is important las culturistas part of those you've heard her on her podcast with shireen, Ethnically Ambiguous, and on segments of this show, such as on a streaming corner, TM. It's the mind behind the iconic phrase.

That's prestige casting. It's super producer, Anna Hosnia! Anna! Wow. Thank you so much for having me. Oh, my God. Half the things you were introducing me as,

I couldn't remember. I did. Oh, it's so nice being back. How was your 4th of July weekend? I'm so exhausted. You guys are the first people I've spoken to all morning. You have that morning voice. I had a meeting this morning and I straight up was like, I'm not really available right now. Emotionally. Honestly, i'll just be honest but yeah no i just like i this morning i woke up i don't know why

but doing fourth of july on a tuesday is something about it yeah it's not okay this doesn't feel like it should be happening right now it doesn't feel like we should be recording a podcast right now to be honest i would have preferred to have the fifth off than the third. Because having your 4th of July feel like a Sunday was a little bit weird. And it definitely threw a wrench in my gears. But anyway, it is what it is. It didn't stop the neighborhood from exploding, though, with constant fireworks. Yeah. didn't stop the neighborhood from exploding though with constant fireworks yeah yeah did you guys

find and jack i know you're out of town because i uh follow all your uh sort of doings on your wife's instagram but um my doings and my leavings i know like everything i know everything jack wears and does um how do i look this weekend how was pulling off? You had a nice hat at one point. Anyway, I'm sorry. I'm such a fucking weirdo. Miles, did you notice? There was a hat. I'll talk to you about it offline.

But Miles, did you notice there was sort of a haze over LA last night? Was that the fireworks? I don't know. We had like a terrible air quality warning. Right. But also for the amount of fireworks that were going off, I would believe that is just residual gunpowder or some shit in the air. Because it was wild. Last night, even when it wasn't going up like immediately around me, off in the distance, it was just. Right.

Yeah. So, yeah. And this morning it looked fucking. I don't know yeah you look at the weather report and it's just icon like little i can't work clip art of fireworks yeah yeah well i was like try that last night when i was driving home i was like there is a serious haze over the city of la is it fireworks or are we just having like a weird overcast moment in my mind really fucked up am i right or am i just hotboxing the shit out of this town right now that's right no that was not the case

no but it felt like there was like a sort of like post sort of firework haze oh there was a stench for sure there was a stench uh where all up in my my backyard from just the neighborhood firework so i don't know there's always just an emotional hangover from the fireworks because they're so fun and so just you know i live and die with each one of those bang bangs going off do you sell it like do you wear red white i? I'm curious. As somebody who's a new father and is very cynical towards the United States, I was very split on how to celebrate. I was like, do we dress him up like we're in red, white, and blue or some shit? Or do I tell him, you know this country hates you, right?

I didn't know which way to play it, so we went red, white, and blue. Yeah, we didn't really do much, but we were just kind of chilling. We didn't dress them up like Uncle Sam this year. At what point should I tell my child that this country hates him? I mean, I would just start

sort of whispering sweet nothings to him. Oh, you little cute baby. You need to understand that this country's not really for him. Oh, you little cute baby. Oh, you little cute baby. You need to understand that this country's not really for him. Oh, you little cute baby. Right, right, right. Oh, you little cute baby. You sort of like, kind of start like that.

Right. Okay, yeah. Slowly turn the volume up. I think sooner. Yeah. You need him literally a problem by Kierna Garten. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's going to be, he'll be able to recite every Rage Against the Machine lyric by the time he's five. Yeah, yeah. That's guaranteed. You need him some of child to be like, do you want to play in the sandbox with me? And he's like, the thing you need to understand about sand is.

And then some sort of, you know, like political. Right. Exactly. Go on. Yes. Okay. I will. I'm in my effort to make the most annoying child.

Exactly. Exactly. Just imagining the teacher. You think drug dealing is bad? Have you seen the import-export of sand, man? Wow. Big sand wants you to play in here, okay? Who do you think breaks those rocks into little tiny sand kernels? Nah, that can't be it. Grains of sand.

Anyways, Ana, we are thrilled to have you. Thank you so much for joining us. We're going to get to know you. Thank you so much for joining us. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, here are some things we're talking about. We're going to talk about that Ron DeSantis campaign video that dropped over the weekend that is getting into the surreal, bad, psychedelic experience levels of just openly embracing fascism. like he doesn't i don't

know i didn't like i think there's your problem i i say as you diagnose his campaign that's yeah falling apart yeah it's a it's a mess he did come out as an alligator man yeah he's big alligator guy he's uh you know both trump and biden are laser eyes guys. They're like dark Biden, dark Trump things are laser shooting out of their eyes. He came out with lightning coming out of his eyes. So that's something he's trying to differentiate himself there. We'll talk about that. We'll talk about Summer of the Shark part two. I thought it's happening. It's all over the news. I thought it's happening. It's all over the news. It's happening. It's happening, folks. Miles is going to do a little TikTok check-in for us.

We're going to talk about two TikTok trends, Zillennials and Girl Dinner. Yeah. Did not know what they were until now. We're going to talk about the Barbie movie. We're going to talk about all sorts of shit. Plenty more. But first, Ana, we do like to ask our our guests what is something from your search history uh yeah so i've really gotten into um architectural digest okay ad yeah and it's sort of it's not even that like i got into it as more of they sent me 600 emails so now i'm just into it out of just like the four like just just just because i opened

my email i'm like i guess i do need to know about diane keaton's real estate before i pull it out so that's sort of where i'm at right now but this morning because i was having such a slow morning i really couldn't even really i woke up and couldn't really remember who I was. That happens. I opened my email and started reading all these sort of arc debt, arc digest. Arc dig. Arc dig. Arc dig, sort of like, you know, the emails they sent out. And the first one really caught my eye because it said, inside Nick Cannon's wide ranging real estate portfolio. Yes.

And then the subtext, which and not the subtext whatever the you know the subhead line the subtext is very clear but um it said the multi-hyphenate and father of 12 has a penchant for buying properties for the people he loves now that is an incredible way of putting that the man has 12 kids and needs to buy 12 homes. Wait, are all the houses for the mothers of his children, basically? I mean, look, it dates back from 2002, when he kind of had his breakout moment in Drubline. Drubline.

Drubline, yeah. Sorry, it's July 5th or July 4th. So from Drubline know it starts and talks about the houses he built but then like as you go on and sort of more kids start appearing right sorry just the whole article i was sitting there like huh well yeah it makes sense that he would have a big portfolio of homes he doesn't really a choice. I did read that he has a nursery in his office building. I just read this in the first paragraph.

A neon-lit room with tumbling mats, a ball pit, and toy instruments. Wait, neon lights? Like bar lighting? I guess. I think just to make it more fun. Okay. For kids.

They said, yeah yeah the father of 12 children many of whom are less than one year old yeah we remember we were here the last couple years being like another oh another okay another one yeah his publicist is working hard like there's been multiple headlines about nick cannon like that are like his his media empire in i think there was one in forbes maybe or like one of one of those it's not his his love of pseudoscience right you'll see on his podcast but anyway sure he has a penchant for buying homes for the ones he loved just say what it is like just say like the man has a penchant for you know sort of having multiple baby mamas and that's fine but like don't try and sugarcoat why he owns so

much property let's be real yeah it's just got a lot of obligations he's got a lot of tables man yeah he's got a lot of tables and that's fine yeah good for him he's an arc digest what's something you think is overrated oh overrated um actually you know what here's the thing i i've had multiple sort of emotional reactions first sort of the the viral marketing of the grimace shake situation i was like oh my god this is genius this is hilarious those kids they're all dead you know and then after a while i saw about 1700 more bootleg versions of that video. And I started to be like, okay, you guys, you're not all dead, okay? You're all fine.

It's just a sugary purple drink. Relax. What you could possibly be dead of is how much this viral marketing is now too much. Okay? So that's sort of now I'm kind of like, I started out being like, LOL. It makes no sense. How would a tape from Goodwill already have this footage on it?

Like, that means like, that tape, there are plot holes in those. Yeah, for sure. That TV cam was bought and donated

within a 24 hour spare. Yeah, right, right, It makes no sense. And it's found footage from Grimace's birthday in the 80s. yeah i was like what

what like that shake just came out who had the time to already do this anyway and now it's like every influencer or youtube star or i don't even know twitch star is now being killed by this shake and i'm like okay it is one or two cute 18 in a row? I'm not buying it. You're like, oh, I was really holding out for there to be a real epidemic of deaths from this milkshake, but I guess not. But that's kind of how TikTok is. At first, I would be like, wait, this person's just doing the other person's bit. And you realize it's more just about participating in the thing that's happening at the time versus being like, this is not originality in its highest form this is merely another iteration of the previous trend i've seen but yeah it's fun to see the build on it justin let's take it from the top i'll do a different aka let's uh start it over okay oh

because no i thought that aka was incredible okay no he's getting me wrong she was texting me she's like is he okay while you were singing drooling from the mouth uh the other night i had like at tennis uh monday night before the day before fourth of july i had a really great shot and uh i screamed it was grimace and i don't know why i did that because Because I had been at McDonald's earlier that day. Yeah, yeah. So it sort of like came out of me and every person looked at me and went, the Grimace shake? And that's how you know viral marketing is truly an incredible art form. Okay. You got to give it to them.

This is one of those things where it was, it's not that it was intentionally viral because people are like this thing's fucking weird and then it became now don't like talking about it yeah because we're still trying to figure out what mcdonald's how they officially feel about people being like it's basically grimace ejaculating into a cup and you eat it and you die that's hilarious that you think mcdonald's isn't secretly behind all this. Right. That is so genius. If they are, then I'm going to sue. We have to sue them because we were calling it Grimace Come Before Anybody. Yeah, and that's sort of on you for thinking that

original ideas are still a thing. I'm so old. There's a flowchart somewhere that just says podcasters call it Grimace Come in one of the things. Yeah. Think it's their own idea.

LOL, LOL. Okay, sure, bud. That's hilarious. We have been in your heads for years now. You look back at your old emails, you're like, wow, you won't grimace when you come into our restaurant. And I'm like, what the fuck? I've been saying it all these different ways.

It's like the rehearsal episode where he's like, wow, gunpowder is from China? Yeah, exactly. Blame the Chinese. Days like these. Curse the Chinese for ever inventing gunpowder.

I just want to give one shout out to a woman I play tennis with. absolutely lovely soul her name is nadia she went at one everyone else knows what i'm talking about when i saw that she turns and goes what's a grimace and i gotta say god bless you nadia for just being a real human being not so deeply online she's like a physician physician's assistant she's a wonderful people one of my favorite people i played tennis with but her genuine reaction to what's like what yeah and i was like you stay pure because also but also anna you did the weirdest thing by it's true claiming it was gimmis grimace wait how what was the shot like were you returning like a serve or something like

it was like a nice drop shot you hit like what exactly what what are we talking here is it like an angels in the outfield situation where grimace's spirit came over you and like helped you do the awesome shot it was grimace no i don't even i don't i honestly don't know why i yelled it it was a small class of like sort of like the um like the main crew of tennis players so it was just like a very fun class yeah and it's just sort of a moment like sort of like the um like the main crew of tennis players so it was just like a very fun class yeah and it's just sort of a moment like everyone was like cheering for me and in a moment i just yelled it was grievous i honestly don't know that's how sort of good viral marketing is i don't really know where it came from it's just so instilled in me. Yeah. I'm a product of my generation. Okay.

Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Like trees to branches, cliffs to avalanches. Grimace. It was Grimace. Sorry. It's not Grimace did it.

It was Grimace. Yeah, it was Grimace. Twas Grimace. Twas Grimace who did it. I haven't had a Grimace shake. I have. I know. I just sort of not really drawn to sort of like jack after he had it from

yeah i haven't been back it's uh you're not going through a dark time he's chained to a radiator what is something that you think is underrated underrated underrated underrated underrated yeah that's a good one sort of like uh uh this is something because i was just at my parents house and i have this fight with my dad every time i go home it's sort of like a comfortable bed because my dad is at that point now where everything has to be the firmest thing you've ever fucking touched i'm sorry firm beds i'll burn you all to the ground. What the fuck? How firm are we talking? Like, it doesn't even feel like it's a mattress. You sit on this bed and you're like, is this a bench? Like, it is incredible.

Yeah. What my dad thinks he's getting away with in this house of his. Wow. And what do you say? You're like, is this for real? And then what is what's his response? He's like, it's good for you. Yeah.

He goes like, well, I have back pain. It's like, that's cool. So why is it now almost in every guest room as well? Because you think all your guests have back pain? Right, right. He likes to explore all the beds, you know, take a little nap. Well, here's the thing. I bought a foam topper for the one in my

room because I was like, when I'm here, I'm not sleeping on a bench. I was like, I am your child, okay? Like, you brought me into this world. I will not sleep on a bench um i was like i am your child okay like you brought me into this world i will not sleep on a bench uh and so but then this time i went in and i was like where's my foam topper on this bed that you shouldn't like wire even around this bed and he goes well sometimes i sleep in this bed and i go why are you sleeping in this bed and he basically was like well i don't know your mom doesn't really like me around which i was like fair fair fair because you have sleep you have undiagnosed sleep apnea and refuse to acknowledge it uh but it's just like joe biden

yeah yeah and so and then and you know so we sort of kind of got into it and i'm just like come on get at least like if you need to get a good middle like you can't just force people to sleep on a firm bed you gotta give them something i love a firm bed topped with a soft like firm but soft you know what i mean like there's firmness underneath feels like you're being held by a giant yeah but like a level of cushion you just yeah i just want i don't want like sort of like my hip and like because i'm a side sleeper so when i sleep on a firm bed fuck you up it's like i'm being beat up yeah i wake up in pain yeah you don't bear you never want to like be like tired and you're like oh let me get in this bed and you hop in and just like oh it's

like all angles you're like yeah that's not cool get us a good comfortable bed underrated a good comfortable bed that doesn't feel like a bench and it doesn't and it's not stinky either yeah you definitely don't want to be stinky okay i don't know you also don't want you to be stinky. You also don't want the steering wheel to fly off. Anyway, sorry. I gotta go. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Ron DeSantis. Ron DeSantis.

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That's what we're going to be saying in a couple months, that he ran for president. He's not running anymore. Oh boy, there he is. Because this guy, his campaign's in trouble, folks. I don't know. This is one of the weirder campaign videos. It's very extremely online, extremely

TikTok. If people had things to do over the weekend god bless you did you see it uh yes let's be real it's just one of those grimace grimace shake viral marketing it does turn into a grimace shake viral marketing thing but yeah like it over the weekend his campaign puts out this video it says the tweet said to wrap up quote pride month let's hear from the politician who did more than any other republican to celebrate it and they they kick it off they're juxtaposing this montage of donald trump basically saying like he's indifferent to lgbtq people uh and saying like he didn't care what bathroom like caitlin jenner shit like that. And then they juxtapose that.

I'm just going to I'm going to play a little bit of it. So you just hear this like weird fucking macho turn. It takes suddenly where they go like they're basically trying to paint Trump as like this pro LGBTQ president with like rainbow filter over everything. And then we get that fucking alpha male hit of content right after. Yes. Make America great again no no chad desantis christian bale we got wow desantis shuts down schools drag shows anti-drug laws saint pride canceled there another that says This governor does not care

What the fuck First of all if anyone is on TikTok at all You've probably heard that with so many Weird like macho alpha man Memes and shit And Anna saw it over you know me on Instagram And pictures with me and my family Over the weekend

I mean I will say like it's pretty incredible Because it has me thinking of so much random shit that I sort of lost what the point of the video was. Yeah. It's truly, like, it's, again, for people who don't realize, it sounded just so hard to follow. But the whole point was to say,

essentially, the distillation is Donald Trump loves gay people. Ron DeSantis hates them. That's legitimately it. Whoa. Because like it's so he looks like fucking aggro. Then there's like buff guys that are greased up. You see Brad Pitt's Achilles from the movie Troy.

Peaky blinders. I know it's over to like call everything homoerotic, but it is like him being mean to trans people and gay people while like just showing gratuitous footage of like the hot hot dudes yeah just like ripped hot dudes next to him which i don't know what like it i i understand what they're trying like they're trying to do a juxtaposition that associates it in your mind. But, like, textually and, like, logically, it doesn't make any sense. Well, their social media person is just using, like, a format of TikTok to just be, like, X and Y.

But when you're doing, like, policy, it just comes off. So it normally would be, like, this is how, like, you know, like some beta dude would like shoot a basketball. But here's how the alpha bro would do it. And they're like, whoa, this guy is so tough. But this one is just so weird because you're like, and this guy's a hateful fuck. And that's supposed to get people all rah-rahed about it. Yeah. It's, yeah, it's very unapologetic, earnest.

Yeah, it's very unapologetic, earnest, but an earnest embrace of things that are... I don't think people ultimately... I don't know, Patrick Bateman in American Psycho, or I think later there's Leonardo DiCaprio in Wolf of Wall Street. These are satirical embodiments of like the excesses of like america and capitalism and like he's just like no that shit is cool like i he doesn't have a sense of humor so it's just this weird thing like that's the thing that he lacks next to trump is like he doesn't have any sense of like humor about him but like mainly it just reveals the problem like his campaign is trying to be both more extreme than trump and also like the more reasonable alternative right yeah i don't know this guy but then there's like it's just weird that you're going after like

a smaller portion of the electorate by running to the right of Trump. You know what I mean? You're like, that's that's how he's differentiating. And yeah, I don't know. I mean, like, I guess I'm glad that this guy turned out to be way less savvy than like I had thought initially, because at first I was like, this guy might not make the same mistakes Trump will. But he just made the worst calculation miscalculation by being like, I'm going to like the GOP's problem right now is that all of the all of the policies are seen as bigoted and we're marching towards fascism. That's a huge negative. So I'm just going to dive head first into that and see if that helps. I would say he is sort of kind of nailing that like,

what is it? Well, I can't even remember the word when you're like it's like you're creating this sort of world and it's like all these images are flashing before you so it is again i can't stop going to viral marketing where he's like inceptioning us yeah yeah like the ludovico treatment from clockwork orange yeah yeah like where he's trying to almost make us think that he has a six pack. Do you get that? It's kind of working in a way where he's like, I'm Ron DeSantis. I hate

gay people. Trump loves gay people. And by the way, the most important fact is that I have a six pack and you need a president who needs a six pack. And if you don't have a president who needs a six pack, then you love gay people. And you're like, what? It would have totally made sense if there was, like, it would have totally made sense if there was like it would have fit perfectly if it said desantis is chad or like you know like something just like

flashing text on the screen like it's so yeah it's just so cynical and like openly so yeah and by the end i was literally like wait did ron desantis star in 300 like i couldn't remember anymore like where i was. And I think that's actually kind of a genius move by him, even though, like, we as, like, normal folk can see through sort of the bullshit. Like, I think it works really well for his base because they start to be like, he has a six-pack. My president needs a six-pack. And then, boom, Trump no six-pack. Easy.

They go into the debate stage. All right, then. All right, Trump, lift your shirt off then, buddy. Six pack off right now. That's what I thought. And if he doesn't like six packs, boom, he loves gays. And it's like, I don't know, man. He wins. Perfect triangulation. Perfect triangulation.

That's what I got from all that. There's something about fascists and bodybuilding, too. Yes! It's a real thing. That music with the bodybuilding like something about the like power and like desexualized nudity like yeah really really they love that shit well and i think also because so much of the imagery has to hearken back to traditional gender roles too yeah that's a huge they're not saying it out loud but that's what they all say to each other is like we need to go back to the fucking 20s basically. And men need to be fucking men again.

I don't know what happened to men and women got to get back in that damn kitchen. Like in that sort of what all their policies they're trying to like nudge society back in that direction. But again, just I don't know. Use just shit post your way to masculinity with these cool bodybuilder things. It does seem to be his theory on the case is that, like, he can just shitpost his way. And, like, I think he saw that Trump's power comes from his, like, willingness to, like, go far. And so he's like, well, we need, like, that seems to be the one ingredient that he's, like, not willing to lose as he takes, lose as he takes like further develops this campaign is like he's just going to keep going further and further. Even though he has to have like so many advisors being like, no, just be the Jeb Bush, be the reasonable guy.

He's like, I'm not going to win like that. You think he has advisors? I mean, nobody is probably telling him the truth, but yeah, he's probably, I think he's mostly advisors. I think he's like a composite of a bunch of advisors. See, everyone says he's like a robot, like he doesn't have any personality, but I think, yeah, it's, this is, this is just on top of two, all the stories you're reading about how in Florida they're losing a lot of money because conventions are just fucking not going to like places like Orlando or Miami because like, like it not going to like places like orlando or miami because

like cute like it's a big draw for like international or national organizations to be like and here's our convention in orlando or whatever they're losing like millions of dollars like constantly as people are like ah yeah actually that thing that was going to bring 15 000 people there nah not going to do it Because either A, the organization is diametrically opposed to his policies, or even if they're not political, they're just like, nah, we'd rather not even invite any criticism of being associated with the state.

So, I don't know. I don't think he even cares anyway, because I think he's following the example of many others. You can shitpost your way into the fucking halls of power, basically, in this country if you do it cleverly enough there's also a picture of he and casey desantis on a beach where like he's in shorts and like a baggy shirt and just looks like you know a guy in his mid-30s who was in a

fraternity and people i think it went viral because people pointed out that, that they are walking on the beach and there are no footsteps behind them. It looks like a fake ad for like when SNL does fake ads. Yeah. This feels exactly like that. Also his wife doesn't have feet. Yeah. His wife is like stepping on her dress or is just she has one material has one leg yes

that's in the center of her body he's got his right leg cocked like he knows how to walk but it based on the fact that there are no footsteps in the picture it would appear so what is that saying i i just think that this would he he needs to get tougher than this image would be my reaction. My guess is that his campaign like saw this and we're like, oh, no, no, no, no. This guy, this guy does not evoke lightning coming out of his eyes. No. But like, you know, it's like one set of footprints because like God was carrying you over the hell.

What is zero set of footprints say? That was carrying you over the hell so like what what does zero set of footprints say that you're both not human yeah that you walk backwards on the beach that you're lizard people which is another thing i think people are overlooking one of the last frames of that video is ron desantis as a gator mouthed fucking like humanoid like i don't even know so then he's also saying i'm also in the i'm in the i'm in the swamp lands trying to bite off your feet like a little alligator like what who are you are you speaky blinders are you gator man are you into buff guys ron help us here but yeah i feel strong on goes the big think of steve irwin yeah yeah probably anna were you thinking like the word you think it was like splicing like he's like splicing like almost

splicing these frames in so like we're not registering them but we're like making those associations we're like wait did he have a six-pack in that one frame maybe yeah i think splicing is a word for like sort of like creating like uh sort of propaganda and while simultaneously like inceptioning people with like content i forget what it how we're calling it randy santos like editing but yeah anyways yeah with like a club beat that you could potentially hear at a gay club yeah i feel like that is the song that you would hear at a like gay club in berlin in a 1980s movie you know or like like a movie like an action movie they'd be like oh the second track that that plays in that video yeah yeah because that's like has this like like funk genre feel to it anyway it's all detuned midi cowbells for all the music nerds out there

all right well don't get distracted by desantis because we have big news that is super real and very important that everybody should be paying attention to and that is that the summer of the shark is back baby summer of the shark part two i remember there was a news story a couple weeks back that tipped, they were like, it was like a weird non-story, but they were like, yeah, the ocean's full of sharks, you guys. There's a lot of sharks out there. Wait, really?

Yeah, it was like something about how environmentalism has made it so that the seas are like just swarming with sharks and we might be in for a the summer of the shark if you'll remember that was on the front page of time magazine when 9-11 happened it was they were calling it the summer of the shark because there were like a couple high-profile shark attacks that summer right so now we're getting news stories about how an aggressive shark sent a swimmer fleeing in shallow florida waters so like that that is just a person saw a shark and moved away from the shark is is the news story but

it's like on the front page of drudge my mother-in-law recently told me that she she was in florida and like for the first time like the lifeguards were like screaming shark and everyone had to get out oh really yeah i mean maybe there's something to this but maybe that she could have been that woman they're referencing yeah i don't know if it's possible but yeah so i have heard florida shark stories this week i think there's i think there's also something to do with like in the same way that we started seeing a lot of balloons like spy balloons once we heard that there was a spy balloon. And like once we turned our technology to catching the spy balloons. I'm just going to read a paragraph from one of the stories that they're linking off to to be like sharks.

Sharks are back in their pits. Quote this morning prior to lifeguards going on duty and are authorizing swimming we had a complete drone patrol and right here in front of field three we saw a school of sharks there were approximately 50 sand sharks there the beach was closed and oh yeah so this is uh charles g New York State Parks Regional Director. And then the beach was closed once more after a possible shark sighting, but officials determined it was a dolphin. So, but also like sand sharks, like you have to fuck with a sand shark. Yeah, I was into sharks. I'm like sand shark.

You have to like step on it to get bit by a sand shark kind of thing. So I like that. They're also just observing things like, yeah, they live there there but they're not the kinds that typically are attacking people and the fact that we now do thorough drone patrols and report if we see a single shark where they live to like a media that is like very eagle to gobble up anything with the word shark in it probably has something to do with this being a trending story. So Jack, it's not. So in your estimation, it is not the summer of the shark or you're all in because I know you love sharks. You pray every day for it to be the summer of the shark. 2001 was the summer of the shark, whether it was an important news story or not. Time Magazine declared it such. So I think we might be into in for another one of those

where people are just sort of sublimating their residual anxiety over the state of the world into being afraid of sharks. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's fair. Although, but you're, you're one of the few people who like wants to get their whole shit. Wants to get eaten by a shark. Yeah, fully. So that's why, that's why you're in the East Coast. You heard that's where there's more sharks.

I heard that. It's going out there, man. Got a lot of sharks out here. All right. Should we take another break and come back and talk TikTok? Yeah. Talk and talk? Yeah.

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do you see yourself as a millennial or a zillennial oh no i'm definitely millennial energy yeah yeah yeah okay because there are certain things I see and I go like, the kids these days. Right. Like the cream and shake thing. So I feel like we're seeing some generation drift here because like Gen Z is late 90s. Like, I feel like this is a story written by millennials who want to be Gen Z. Well, no, this is it. Well, apparently.

So what happened? A lot of Gen Z people are like, they say I could clock a millennial from fucking 500 yards away. It's mostly Gen Z kids that are observing it. And it's more that like they're like one person's like they were straight leg pants, not skinny jeans, like a real millennial. But they also may wear baggier Gen Z type pants. i'm like okay that's not really the best indicator then are also like one interesting was like they post pictures of themselves having funs with their friends millennials just do the selfie it's the solo fun plural with their friends uh-oh yeah oh yeah having a lot of funs uh and then so zillennials do the fun with the friends. Regular Millennials. With selfie. Selfie. What does Gen Z do? Just very... Photo dumps.

Yeah, or out like blurry photos because... Abstract. I'm not pressed by this. Okay. I'm just taking pictures. I'm in the moment. That's my vibe. Abstract, photo dumped with obscure caption.

Absolutely. Or like to emoji or whatever. You know what I mean? But they have nothing to do with whatever the picture the pictures are um and then another one is like basically saying like these like zillennials are like terminally online like most young people but also remember the days of renting physical media at blockbuster and ultimately it just feels like it's very difficult to define what in like what these in-between generation people are you kind of

just are firmly in one or the other i feel like i don't know as i find myself being a quote geriatric millennial as like the oldest cohort of millennials but i don't look at it as me being like which side am i on i'm like i think i'm just like the the kid that was held back a bunch in the class so i'm older than everybody yeah yeah. I get that energy from you. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, what Gen X habits do I have except for wanting to do cocaine and hack computers all the time? Yeah, those tiny little hacker glasses that you wear. Oh, yeah.

I will say, I think fashion is not a good indicator because fashion, the trends sort of transcend age. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. If you're even remotely interested in fashion, you will always follow the trends regardless transcend age. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. If you're even remotely interested in fashion, you will always follow the trends, regardless of age. Oh, yeah. My cargo pants I wear now,

while I'm in dad mode, baggy as shit. Because I'm like, you know what? If we're going back to it, let's get baggy again. But yeah, it's not... But if a kid asked me, like, who, you know, my favorite artist would be,

I'm like, Missy Misdemeanor Elliott. Who? What? me like who you know my favorite artist would be i'm like missy misdemeanor elliot what oh my grandma's favorite singer she ain't a singer she's hip-hop okay you know what i mean yeah she does sing a little bit but she does a lot of other things so yeah we talk about how like the different classes are like you're only aware of the class that's like directly above you and directly below you and like this this story is like so far out of my range that it's none of this is real to me. I don't know who any of these people are. Wow.

You don't know who Missy Elliott is? I don't know. I've never heard of Blockbuster. Yeah. How old are you? I was on the Titanic. I heard of Betamax tapes. Yeah.

I used to rent those. But do you think of yourself as gen x jack uh yeah i do so this is like that's what when i was saying that there's like some creep happening here i remember like when it was cool to be a millennial i think a lot of like gen x people who were like i was i'm late gen x and like i'm i was born in 80 so but then like people were like no you're actually an elder millennial and I was like yes yeah I'm an elder millennial I want that

but yeah I think I'm just like I think that's more people wanting to be young who are creating these new categories yeah I mean I think Gen Z has a penchant for really good marketing and labeling things that like already,

like we, we just know to be true. Like Chugi was just like, Whoa, what is that? And you're like, you know, just what they're calling the shit that we do.

Oh, okay. Okay. It's not like a whole, like, you know, system of thinking. The other thing that I came across and Becca,

super producer, Becca was also helped me understand was girl dinner. Yeah. Which as I saw, I came across and Becca, Super Producer Becca, also helped me understand was girl dinner, which as I saw, I was like, oh, these are nice charcuterie plates that people are putting together. But no, girl dinner was just a way for women to just throw something together to eat in a way that is low effort and not having to cook for yourself or guests or a partner or something like that and just indulge in some of your favorite foods you have lying around in a nice beautifully arranged plate but actually i now see why i don't identify as a millennial because i'm actually gen z because this is totally me you love that plate full of burrata so some of these people have

like their plates are they look like full-on charcuterie boards and i thought i thought that was like the fucking whack thing to do was to be into charcuterie that was like a very millennial thing but i guess we're coming full circle and just cobbling together again what i call just cobbling shit together that you have to make a meal because you don't want to cook but i get it this has been branded something a little bit different this uh these girl dinners look like they took eight hours to make oh the way they're arranged 100 yeah it's for the vibes you know obviously tick tock tick tockification of dinner is a very fascinating thing because a real girl dinner is me i cut brie up a little too large pieces. I put prosciutto on that.

I put that on the, on the bread. I throw it out on a pan and then I eat it right over the pan while being like, wait, wait, wait. Why is it in a pan? Exactly.

Wait, wait, wait. No, you're cooking. Why is it in a pan? Real cheese with prosciutto. Oh, it's a prosciutto. Miles, why is it in a pan?

Oh, it's a prosciutto? I thought you just had loose bread. You're like, and I got to eat it over this hot pan. That's what I'm saying. Yes, but I'm making an open-faced sort of grilled cheese with prosciutto on it. But it's kind of like, what am I doing? Is that a meal? I would much rather eat. And then I'll just grab a cucumber just eat the

cucumber and that's dinner baby yeah mine is loose turkey slices yeah with like a block of like cheddar cheese i got that's like slightly fancier because it's like got that more tang to it like when it's english cheddar uh then probably like loose pickles kimchi always because i always have to have kimchi in my refrigerator. And what the fuck was, oh, and like whatever loose dips I get from like Trader Joe's. Yeah. Get some dips on there. But I would never put them on the same plate together.

That's so much energy. I would so much rather have like the ingredients of a sandwich with pretzels as the bread instead of like having the like a sandwich with ham and cheese. Do you do that? And you put a little dollop of mustard, like some dipping mustard or some shit? Some dipping mustard on the side. And then that can, you know, because those pretzels work with hummus too. So I can start working that into the action. And it's just a kind of a non just kind of a never-ending grazing thing. Whereas a sandwich, once you eat the sandwich, you're done.

But I like the open-endedness. Yeah. Well, you know, again, this isn't without controversy either. Because, you know, there's like also a very unhealthy trend of posting like, you know, like their own versions of a girl dinner. And ends up slight, like probably promoting like disord versions of a girl dinner and ends up slight like probably promoting like disordered eating and things like that or just you know the toxic loophole of like comparative living when people start saying like that's what this person needs and they look like x y and z so again you know social media isn't without uh it's dark sides it turns out it's not just all

fun and games and grimace come like when gwyneth paltrow came through I was like yeah and then for dinner I like to have a nice bone broth oh yeah that's I saw a video of somebody fucking up making bone broth on TikTok where they're straining it but they just dump the contents into the sink like they don't have a secondary thing to catch the bone broth they just put a strainer over their sink and then dumped it all out and then after like oh fuck damn you poured out the good bit i don't even get it they just threw it in the sink like they were thinking like when you're making pasta you know like and you're draining your pasta when it's like you need the whole point was to keep that motherfucking water but you just dump that shit and you strain it out and then like like, it's just the reaction like, oh, fuck.

Yeah. Hours gone. Hours gone. Oh, Becca saw that one. See, we're out here. See, I'm also Gen Z as well. We're all Gen Z. Thank you.

Gen Zex. That's me. Yeah. Can I just say, I think, you know, maybe I am more Zillennial because I do like to sort of engage with that content. But actually, I'm starting to think maybe it's there is like a fine line between like the amount of patience you have for scrolling at your age. Because I definitely I hit a point with TikTok where I'm like, I can't do this anymore. Like, I simply can't do it. Like, I stopped scrolling on Instagram. Sorry?

Do you ever scroll on TikTok till you get the video where they're like, hey, hey motherfucker you've been scrolling a minute i never get there i get there a lot okay well i never millennial than i am because i i lose patience with i'm so i'm such a baby we all know that i'm 23 years old you know did anybody uh get the twitter like get to the end of twitter no i haven't gotten there i did not either. And I was like, oh, I'm mad in theory, but damn, I do not. I think it's a good thing. I think we potentially might have like sort of a good sort of, we

stop. Yeah. Okay, that's enough of that. Twelve tweets a day. That's plenty. Good. Gotta make them good though. Wow, that makes even more like picky, like, ooh, whose tweet am I going to look at today? Better be a good one. You can choose. Maybe in this hypothetical future where you have to choose them.

I like to be mindful about my Twitter consumption. Yes. Just like a nice dozen. I just sip a bone broth and read my 12 tweets of the day. Wow. I'm just really surprised none of y' 12 tweets of the day. Wow. I'm just really surprised none of y'all scroll to the end like that. I'm glad Becca Did you get to the end of Twitter?

No, I get to the end of TikTok. I think if you go like an hour straight, they're like, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, what are you doing? And I'm like, what? What time is it? My baby's asleep in my arms and shit. I'm like, oh, what time is it? And then like my baby's like asleep in my arms and shit. I'm like,

Oh my God, he's 14. Wow. So you scroll. And so your baby can hear Tik TOK. No, I have my AirPods in. Okay.

I was going to say, you can't let your baby here. No, I'm not going to. No, no, no. The whole point is having your AirPods in.

So you have the noise cancellation on. So the baby crying doesn't like ruin your body. Yeah, exactly. That's like sort of my number one parenting rule is not being a parent is like never let the baby sort of hear tiktok no no it's like a whole like like a miasma if i'm using the right word just all sort of like you don't really want to like the baby to hear certain words like girl dinner or riz or sort of like you don't want the baby to like take in these concepts just yet um the second you said my five-year-old had riz i went and told him and i was like how do we

cultivate well five is fine five is good five is where you do start making them a content creator yeah anything before that you're sick yeah anything before that i'm just shaking my head and judging you. Son, it turns out you have the riz. Yeah. I don't know what it means, but we're going to figure this out together. Actually, I'll give you four. You can make your child the TikTok creator at four, but as long as you have their consent. Yeah. And you do need to explain what consent is to them and sort of pull up some legal documents, make sure they sign.

And then sign for them. And then make sure they have their own lawyer to be able to go over sort of what you are presenting them with your lawyer so just have like his people talk to your people and make sure the baby is fully aware of what they are agreeing to as a content creator and then and only then can you allow your baby to sort of hear tiktok in the background yeah you are going to be like the actual living embodiment of that was it a funny or die sketch or no human giant the shutter shutter bugs the people who like represent children baby agents baby actors here's the thing i'm not gonna see my kid okay because he's gonna because my child will be so

fucking booked and busy i won't be able to get any of their oh you see your kid wow i feel bad for your kid ain't working wow okay damn it'll be like that atlanta episode and i have one of the more recent season where the donald glover's baby mama her daughter gets like put into like this like tyler perry like system and she's just going studio to studio trying to find her daughter and they're like oh no she's not even moved to that other show she's starring in she's like what why didn't anyone tell me it's a slippery slope all right finally barbie movie coming i think people think it's going to be a big hit i i barbenheimer barbenheimer would you see both movies in one day no yeah two movies in one day i love movies but i also like something starts to feel weird being in the movie theater that long it's i've tried it before and i couldn't

i couldn't do it why why would you only have one day of fun when you could have two days of fun that's right and oppenheimer supposedly a blast that was a bad pun but it's supposed to be fun uh very fun well let's be real we all want to fuck Cillian Murphy yeah we do I mean we're all like PK Blind Eye you got a little boom in you huh I don't know I just I really just want to fuck Cillian Murphy. I'm sorry, what if that was my answer? The way you just said that was really upsetting. Oh, God. Anna. I can see your saliva threading around your mouth.

That's my new fan. I just want to fuck Cillian. Fuck Cillian Murphy. Okay, okay. Well, I'm so sorry to everyone. Thanks for coming on. That's an edit. That's an edit.

And we're going to keep moving forward. No, I'm so sorry to everyone. Thanks for coming on. That's an edit. That's an edit. And we're going to keep moving forward. No, I'm just saying. I will say, like, sort of the Cillian Murphonissance through Peaky Blinders is quite incredible. Like, they brought it back into this sort of, like, this. Because I don't know. Like, I feel like he played, like, sort of, you know, interesting characters before. But the Peaky Blinders, dude.

It's got you. I never wanted to be sort of like a... I don't even know. The women are treated so poorly in that show. All of a sudden, it's like, treat me poorly, Cillian. Yeah, 1920s. That's what DeSantis is going for. Is it Killian or Cillian?

Does anyone actually know? I've always called him Cillian, and he's never corrected me. Oh, you know him? That's on his ass. You know him and you didn't introduce? No, I don't know him, but it's on him

if I'm pronouncing it wrong to reach out. I don't know. I just think he's so hot and then like the idea of him now being like... It's Killian. Oh, it is Killian. Yeah.

There's no way. I always say Cillian and I feel like I say it because people correct me all the time i go nah okay so cillian all right so then i have to retake all the cillian murphy's i just want to fuck cillian murphy's until someone you're gonna knock at your door i'll do a pickup after knock at your door hi who are you hi i'm cillian murphy Oh. Oh, no. You rang? No, not you.

Not you. No, I just want to say, like, I think it's great casting to sort of put, like, Margot Robbie in a massive movie and then Cillian Murphy in another massive movie. And so, like, it's almost like the, like, we just want to, like, fuck these movies. Yeah. With an atomic bomb. It's honestly genius to bring these movies out at the same time. Because we are all so horny at home that we just want to fuck these movies. Not even the people, just the concept of the movie. Yeah, conceptually, I've lost sort of what the movies are even about.

Even though they're pretty clear, like Barbie and all. I want to have sex with Pink and one with Mushroom Cloud. It's truly the perfect American side. Vibramarketing, baby, they did it. They're so deep in us that we're like, yes, yes, yes. It's genius, dude. Barbie and the atom bomb at the same damn time. It's literally what America is about.

Bombs and Barbie. Think about it, dude. You got it. Jack, I'm going to need you to go like a level deeper inside yourself and really think about what they're offering us here. We live in such an incredible time of sort of content, marketing, sickness. Like, we are so deep in that we're like unwell, but like to a point that we're so unwell that we're thriving. You know what I mean? I love i'm so we couldn't be unwell we couldn't be more unwell in a better way that's like when i hit a great fucking shot and it just goes straight past that person's racket and hits

right in the corner you scream it was grimace that my friend is america that is America, baby! Woo! 5th of July! Here we are! I just got my second win. This is weird, Justin. I don't think I have to tell you that there should be a swelling orchestra behind that speech. Yeah, play that one bit in section. That you play on TikTok.

But it's true. Am I saying anything that's not right? They've nailed it. Truly, truly truly truly we were gonna take this opportunity to talk about the fact that this is one of those toy movies that we i think covered a long time ago and we're like man they're gonna make a fucking barbie movie that's stupid we were wrong yeah and they are going to they're keeping coming Mattel Films has in development and who knows how much in development means it's going to actually happen

but they did give Greta Gerwig a Barbie movie so it seems like they're willing to try some weird stuff and this is some wacky wild stuff coming from Mattel Studios the Mattel Cinematic Universe. Mattel Films has 45 films in development. They've announced 17.

So one of the latest that we know about is Lena Dunham directing Lily Collins in the Polly Pocket movie. Yep. We don't know what the vibe is of that. Then they're making a video or film off the card game uno potentially starring lil yadi and it's a it's a heist movie in the hip-hop scene in atlanta so i'm like okay if you keep doing things like this rather than being like it's about the most high stakes game of uno in town then maybe you have a shot at doing something interesting daniel Kaluuya is directing a A24 type surreal movie about Barney. Yeah.

We've covered this one before. Yeah, which looks like it's going to be like that. Okay, you got something vibey there. Then there's Major Matt Mason. Tom Hanks is starring in a movie about the toy that inspired the toy that Buzz Lightyear is based on. Oh boy. That can't be true. Yes. You just made one up. No.

That's a thing. Jack, it's going to get wobbly here. We got the 8-Ball movie, Magic 8-Ball movie. Still not sure where that's going. They say it's going to maybe be like a thriller type movie. He-Man, Masters of the Universe. They didn't learn from the Dolph Lundgren one, but they're going to take another stab at it.

This one feels like it deserves another shot. I feel like kids are just waiting for a He-Man to come through. I need a He-Man! You know, that's what all the kids are saying right now. There's a Thomas the Tank Engine movie in works. A Hot Wheels movie by J.J. Abrams. Gold. American Girl doll movie, which people have described as Bill and Ted meets Booksmart.

Yep. No, these are like they're on a run right now after the Magic 8-Ball movie, which who the fuck knows what that's going to be. But He-Man, Thomas the Tank Engine, Hot Wheels, American Girl doll. Yeah, those are good. Wait, Jason Bateman is attached to something that's based on the Chatty Cathy and Betsy Wetsy dolls. Now you've lost me again. Yeah, it's a dog. It's a doll that does pee pee and you have toetsy dolls. Now you've lost me again. Yeah. It's a doll that does pee-pee and you have to change the diaper.

Oh, and Chatty Cathy was just like the pool string one? Yeah, yeah. It had like a bunch of phrases that said. Yeah. Then there's a Viewmaster movie. Like the little fucking...

Viewmaster is just the little thing you look through. Yeah, exactly. Someone called it like a kid's dissociating device. It was like analog, uh, VR headset.

Yeah, exactly. That was our kids. Let me say about the first VR, the view master, uh, and then wishbone, the salad dressing.

No, the little, the little terrier dog that taught you how to read. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. And any of those sound good to you?

Yeah. Which one? That's going to do it. I like, have done this i don't know and any of those sound good to you yeah which one that's gonna do i like we sit here and we go like oh give me a break and then cut to us at every single goddamn movie so i what am i what am i gonna pretend like i'm not about to watch every goddamn no but i'm saying which one appeals fucking films which appeals to you most based on what you've just heard is what I'm asking. Oh, I mean, like, I'm sort of like down for this weird Barney shit. Yeah. Uno?

Eh, whatever. I'll watch it. Polly Pocket? Sure. Why not? Major Matt Milson? Mason? I can't read any of that.

Eight Ball? That's about cocaine, right? Mm-hmm. And then, yeah, honestly, let's be real i'll watch it all i'm sick what did i just scream about fifth of july you know here i am yeah i love hot wheels i love thomas the tank engine will he get up are you okay well he's fine are you unwell enough to see barbie oppenheimer in one day see see barbie first and then chase it with Oppenheimer after? First of all, I literally

just said earlier, why would you have one day of fun when you could have two? Would you do it two days in a row? Just do it two days in a row. Potentially, yeah. I could do that. Part of me wants to break my psyche and most people, if you saw both in one day, you'd see

Oppenheimer and then you just clear your mind with barbie but i i want or you see barbie and then you blow the shit out of jack there's a ghost behind you oh my goodness oh my god i was too engrossed. You really did fright me. I was like, how's this tie into the bit we were doing? Is it the magic eight ball thing coming back? Do you want to say hi? Huh?

Is he still there? Hi. Hey! We don't say his name. Hey, boy without a name. Hello, boy without a name. Hey, Riz boy. The horse with no name.

Hey, Riz. Riz Khalifa. Do you want to hear what they're saying to you? They're calling you Riz Khalifa. Do you know what that means? Yeah. Oh, gosh. Come on.

It's okay. It's okay. All right, man. I got to finish up here. Thank you for coming through and saying hi to everyone. You talk to him like, what are you, James Corden with a guest on your show? Why do you talk to him like that? Thanks so much.

Hey man, thanks for stopping by. I love to see you. It's always good to catch up. Go see your mother. This movie is in theaters this Friday, everybody. Please check it out. Up next, we have Fleet Foxes. Everything is a negotiation. You gotta keep it very... Yeah, yeah. You're never telling. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

The second it's like, you give... I get it. I was the kind of kid, you give me someone to push against oh i'm gonna push on i'm gonna push against it anyway can i just say he's still here by the way he's not going yeah of course not well you're his father and you should love him but um here's the thing can i pause at an idea okay so you've been giving me what how's it pronounced mattel yes okay i'm sorry i literally am slowly starting to like lose my i think i closed the door because he left it open like a real jerk i'll be right back oh wow wow okay whoa his son is incredibly lovely and honestly the day that jack can no longer host let me tell you we are going to be auditioning those two sons like oh yeah truly those two

actually screw my own kids i'm here to manage jack's kids i'm already i signed him to a 360 deal yeah i've got an album coming out i was just letting you know i actually am signing your sons and i will be their manager because um that's actually put your headphones back on so i can finish my hilarious bit but i really would love to do sort of a succession with your sons to see who takes over daily that's like my dream is to be like bleep and bleep where like let's anyway that was their names okay rather than jack being like logan roy he's like, fuck off. He's like, hey, thanks for showing me that. Maybe we'll come check that out later.

I think I would actually just rewrite Jack. To be sort of a darker, more sinister figure. I'd just be amazed if they thought my job was cool enough to want to inherit. And yeah. It's reverse succession. You're trying to convince the kids to want to take over the family

daddy has a real job too and they're like dad i actually just want to be a doctor i just want to float in the sea and get my shit bit by a shark anyway what were you about to say though anna so anyway i wanted to posit hasbro yeah that was it what if that was all I wanted to say? That sounds like the extent of a meeting in Hollywood right now anyway. You bring me Mattel I give you Hasbro. No, here's the thing. Here's what we need. If we were to do a super dark

A24 sort of Furby horror who would you want to direct it? And Star. Furby? Yeah. They've done some good stuff? And star? Furby. Yeah. They've done some good stuff with Furby. Furby. I mean, don't think Hasbro is not out here.

Like, we've got the Transformers. Hasbro is the one that has succeeded the most. The Transformers films. Right. Dungeons and Dragons. Who can forget Battleship? I think Furby would would i would just bring uh i mean yeah the furby is coming back like uh super producer rebecca god sorry becca i was

trying to say rebecca i think if it's gonna be freaky it has to have tony collette in it tony collette right now is my freak queen yeah so i guess i don't know if I just have Ari Aster and it's just hereditary but with Furbies starring Tony Collette and The Weeknd two people right now in my mind that I think of as the creepiest people in my mind yeah exactly

yeah so I would like to posit that and let's see who makes it and I think if A24 did Hasbro's Fur and i think they could if a24 did hasbro's furby i think it could be a real hit sort of like they're doing an a24 barney i think like because famously furby creepy wouldn't leave you alone i have to keep putting it to sleep in my closet okay like it's got an energy under it yeah there's darkness there. That's why I don't fuck with them things. And that's why we need to have a creepy movie with it. Sort of like a hereditary.

Starring Toni Collette, make it happen. Yeah. Well, Ana Hosnia, such a pleasure having you on The Daily Zeitgeist, as always. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? Yeah, I'm at Ana Hosnia on Twitter. I'm at sellinghosniania on Twitter. I'm at sellinghosnia on Instagram, where I sell myself to you. I have a sub stack,

sellinghosnia.substack.com, which I am sort of in a weird writer's block situation, where I'm not finding any joy in anything. Maybe I should write about the Oppenheimer Barbie sort of orgasm. But here's the thing, it just feels like it's already been done, you know?

Yeah. Not like this, though. Not like this. You've got your own voice. We'll see what I end up writing next. I've been writing a sort of succession final thoughts piece for like two months, it feels like. And I just can't finish it because I have so much I want to put in there. But sometimes you have to say when enough is enough.

Yeah. No, the people are still hungry for succession content i think the timing's perfect is there a work of media you've been enjoying besides succession yeah yeah so uh first of all any content with adele is truly incredible stuff did you see the video of her on twitter from the show yeah pop crave posted it where she's talking about people throwing stuff at artists and she says i fucking dare you i dare you to throw something at me i'll fucking kill you and then shoots a fucking t-shirt gun like it is unreal and someone um oh yeah there we go

sorry it's her it's her North London Have you seen the people throwing shit on stage at live shows recently? Have you seen that? She's a good answer the most likable tottenham fan and so uh aram at aram not a go tweeted i feel like adele has the energy of a mob family matriarch and it's true have you seen any of her paparazzi pics where she's got her hands up at the paparazzi's like a gun like she's yelling at them like don't you be talking yeah like her energy is i mean you know she was dating skepta you know she's she's out here she is out here uh and then the other thing i discovered

online is the guy who uh reviews watches famous people are wearing to basically really let you know how rich they are oh because you know how how like that Michael Rubin guy dropped his like white party, like trailer for his party made that video. I didn't see the trailer. So much NBA talent. Yeah. Oh yeah. So much NBA.

I always say that so much NBA talent. Fairway. I like, I'm actually famous for always saying like, yeah, so much NBA talent, but yeah, so much NBA talent but yeah, there's this guy on TikTok

Chad.Alexander who just goes through and zooms in on the watches and tells you how much every watch costs it's incredible, for the most part they're all wearing you know, whatever, 100k to like 500k, and then just like Jay-Z rolls in with like a 7 million dollar watch

oh my god like a Richard Mille go. Oh my God. $7 million. Like a Richard Mille. Go watch the video. I don't know. I can't. It blows my mind. Every watch name was as if like brain bleach.

Like you'd be like, is worth this much right now. And I was just like, who is naming watches? It's the guy's name i don't know but we call that an automars what the fuck yeah it'd be like the automar 4610 1812 you're like what anyway i don't know i've discovered that i really enjoyed it someone named mcbeardy at kitso.moreMorkese is the one who posted, said,

this guy on TikTok who discusses watches worn at these. Now that's where you get to see how money these celebrities are. And I just thought that was very interesting. An interesting sort of angle to look at sort of how rich people present themselves and how they want to be seen. And it's like through their watches. Fascinating. Yeah.

Yeah. I love those watches. Miles, where can people find you? Is there work in media you've been enjoying? Find me on Twitter, Instagram, at Miles and Gray. Find Jack and I on our basketball podcast, milesandjack.matboosties. Also, find

me on 420 Day Fiance with Sophia Alexandra. And I have a new podcast coming out I've been working on with Kaleidoscope Media. It's a new podcast coming out i've been working on with kaleidoscope media it's a it's a true crime i'm not this is this sounds like bullshit it's this is real shit it's called the good thief uh that i've been hosting and it's about this figure in greece who's like the greek robin hood where him and his brother would be like robbing wealthy people uh like titans of industry people who are like avoiding paying taxes to help the people and would do a little old-fashioned wealth redistribution. And it's like a really great story, especially given the era that we're in

with just unfettered greed all around. The trailer just dropped, so check it out. Make sure you subscribe to that. It's coming out in a week. So yeah, that is called The Good Thief. And I appreciate your support on that one. Tweet that I like from at Sad Monsters. Frank Lesser quote tweeted.

First, it's a Benny Johnson tweet. It's like conservative, dude. But it said legendary actor. They're talking about Scott Baio announces he's leaving California after 40 years. Quote, it's become a third world country. And then at Sad Monsters quote, it said said, Scott Baio is, quote, legendary in the sense that his career died years ago, and now he's a cautionary tale

you tell children so they behave. And, nah, that felt about right. Wait, California is a third world country? So what's a third world country now? I don't even know. Don't, Anna, don't, don't, don't start asking questions. Don't follow, don't try and follow that logic train. did you see the jennifer garner like at that michael rubin party

because ben affleck was there with his like eldest daughter i think and it's this looks just like jennifer like those garner jeans are strong as shit i know it's really like god another blow to ben affleck not even having strong enough come to like support his genes like what is happening jennifer garner is like i will just cleave my cells in two i was looking for the daughter i truly thought that was yeah it's like it's just i don't know there's something really sad again about ben affleck not even having sort of like strong enough dna to even like remotely like to leave an impression on the planet yeah and that's a clone i generally feel like that guy cannot win his online presence is just like yeah god fucking hey man that's your daughter daughter? That looks like Jennifer Garner only.

No, it's my daughter too. I'm involved and everyone's like, shut the fuck up. Hey, get away from her, you fucking creep. Yeah. Leave that young lady alone. It's a little girl, man. You're sick. It's my fucking daughter.

No. There is no proof of that. We took a DNA test and the DNA literally rejected you. 100%. It's 100% Gardner. Jeez. How? How is it even possible?

We don't know, but we now all believe in Jesus. Isn't that crazy? Wild. Immaculate conception. That baby was born with immaculate conception because there's no way, baby. Sorry, Ben. All right. Tweet I've been enjoying.

Todd Spence at Todd underscore Spence tweeted. Singer Michelle Phillips from the Mamas and Papas reaction to seeing her acquaintance Harrison Ford in a little movie that just opened called Star Wars. And then it's a screencap or a photograph, I guess, of a book. I didn't even know Harrison was an actor. I remember getting dragged to Star Wars at 10 a. 10am on Saturday morning by my stepbrother who'd done some animation for the movie. I was sitting there watching the screen and all of a sudden Harrison comes on and I gasped

and said, that's my pot dealer. Wow. Harrison Ford is cool. Don't lose sight of that fact. Yeah, loves to crash planes. Huge stoner. That's why he crashes all the time.

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that we think you might enjoy. Hey, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Hey, Miles, what's a song we think people might enjoy? So I just came across this group of Danish DJs and producers, artists. They're called the Boom Clap Bachelors. Yeah. And this is like a track. Look, I don't know how to speak Danish, so it looks like Tidenflyver. Okay. It's T-I-D-E-N is the first word, and the second word is F-L-Y-V-E-R.

But it has, like, the, like, instrumental of, like, Don't Kill My Vibe, Kendrick Lamar underneath it. But they're singing in Danish. It's kind of cool. Just check it out. It's very great. There's no, like, drum. There's nothing. There's no, like, beat drop or anything in it.

Just a nice, like, sort of ball no like beat drop or anything in it. Just a nice like sort of ballady type piece. So check this out. I was expecting accordions based on that title, but it's not. So don't worry. It's actually cool. Go check it out. The Daily Zeitgeist is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit

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