The Daily Zeitgeist - F Everything Else… Trend, Trend, Trend, Trend 6/24: Trump, Dave Grohl, Taylor Swift, Toilet Stall Etiquette, Florida Panthers, Stanley Cup Finals, Jerry Seinfeld

Episode Date: June 24, 2024

In this edition of F Everything Else… Trend, Trend, Trend, Trend, Jack and Miles discuss Trump and his melting brain, Dave Grohl drawing the ire of Swifties, the internet arguing over toilet stall e...tiquette, Trump jinxing the Florida Panthers in the Stanley Cup Finals, Seinfeld "roasting" pro Palestinian protesters on his Australia tour and much more!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 yeah bro i'm recording it was fucking hot whoo nasty nasty it's gonna stay hot i think yeah i mean it's just now just feeling like la yeah that's all right before when it was just like it's fucking the like 70 was the high like i was like how we're supposed to be happening my feet are supposed to be crinkling sizzling yeah and you kept saying and where's your global warming now jack and i was like miles it's i said where's your global warming now cuck that's right you know let's not reinvent what i said right it was pretty clear you were pretty specific about that yeah my feet are getting i mean they're getting their their summer heat pads back i try and stay as barefoot as possible on concrete it's just like a weird thing i've had since i was a kid my kids have been talking about my feet like and how they're like how are your feet this oh like being able to like
Starting point is 00:01:02 stay in the concrete why is your foot skin a different substance than i've ever touched yeah i got i got a wild pad i got i got i got i got i got i got that first was originally about i got this good i need to exfoliate exfoliate up under my feet yeah this shit there's probably a good half inch of like protective skin on the bottoms of my feet yeah it's really my arches that don't have something i've got like five skins worth of skin on my on the bottom of my feet what the fuck is five skins worth of skin like it's five layers it seems like it's made out of like, it seems like it came out of a hot glue gun.
Starting point is 00:01:47 The bottom of my feet right now. So you're saying if you did a cross section of your foot it would look like the earth? Yeah, down to the mantle. On the bottom of my feet. That makes more sense. Because I'm just walking around without shoes on. I thought you were just collecting skin or something. I got five kinds of feet
Starting point is 00:02:04 down there. Chicken? Yeah. Snake? I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths
Starting point is 00:02:39 between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente.
Starting point is 00:03:13 And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Sanner.
Starting point is 00:03:45 The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to let's talk offline on the I heart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I'm Carrie champion. And this is season four of naked sports where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball
Starting point is 00:04:30 just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way
Starting point is 00:04:41 we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better
Starting point is 00:04:59 because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to this weekend edition of Your Daily Night, guys! Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:24 It's a production of iHeartRadio production of Brian the editor is here early after being up all night early after being up all night watching a chronology of the
Starting point is 00:05:39 Drake Hendrick beef by accident he said put that shit on at one o'clock and just like time warped forward an hour and 45 minutes. I just smushed my pinky. Oh no. That's stupid to say that. I had my hand on the arm rest of my chair and I swiveled it and it just
Starting point is 00:06:00 pinched it under my desk. And I'm like, ow, ow, I just smushed my pinky. It's got a little red dot on it i think from the blood vessels breaking well that that right there that is my co-host mr miles gray and the brain yeah thank you so much that's our new duo called well i'm pinky and that's the brain thanks for having me despite my pinky injuries oh yeah
Starting point is 00:06:25 that's smarts this motherfucker will smush his pinky everyone that's the thing you gotta know about my boy miles he doesn't give a fuck he will smush his pinky anyway so can we buy you ladies can we buy you ladies some drinks what no all right all right i tried oh he squished his pink jack and i being wingmen for each other here's the thing you gotta get up and understand about my boy bumping into each other die after the first flight um all right well uh miles this is the episode where we tell the people what was trending over the weekend. Yeah. We got a lot for you.
Starting point is 00:07:07 We got all kinds of things. We got Donald Trump. You heard about this guy. We got Dave Grohl. Really? Yeah. Trump did Shark Boat again. Dave, Dave, Dave.
Starting point is 00:07:18 Did he? Yeah. He did it again. He's playing the hits, man. Like, this is, he's just on some next shit. I've got an aptitude, folks, for that sort of thing. That's what I've got. An aptitude. I think I'm saying
Starting point is 00:07:30 aptitude. We're going to talk about toilet stall etiquette. All of that. Yeah. But first, before we get to any of it, we do like to let you guys get to know us a little bit better by telling you something that we think
Starting point is 00:07:45 is underrated something we think is overrated you want to go miles you want me to go dude i want to go you want to go i want to go man you want to get out of here let me get out of here let's see get out of here real quick um underrated okay so i've i always like i knew like elon musk stands are willing to just excuse away anything they see. But I've gotten really into the cyber truck, like in terms of watching like the schadenfreude of people's cyber trucks falling the fuck apart. Yeah. Or them being like, this car kind of sucks. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:19 Exactly. You fool. Like, what the fuck is this? Not being fully willing. Like, yeah. Purist of cognitive dissonance dude pure uncut fucking cope is just it makes my nose bleed the combination made my there's a whole there's a subreddit called there's like a battle on like the automotive
Starting point is 00:08:38 subreddits between our cyber truck and our cyber stuck and cyber stuck is just an aggregation of all people fucking just lamenting or pretending like shit's all good and so i really underrated just how much like for people who you know outwardly are like i'm just so into futuristic shit dude i'm into doge i'm into tesla dude i'm space you know what i mean like they're all about like the fucking future how they can just completely ignore blatant issues with a fucking vehicle that costs like 120 000 um that normally like these would be the same people be like oh the new iphone doesn't you know what i mean like would start nitpicking but there's these kinds of videos right where there's this one dude who make he has a cyber truck he makes all this cyber truck content and he's making videos where he clearly
Starting point is 00:09:30 points out the fucking flaws like with the car but spins it at the end with some like shit he's like so i don't know you guys let me know in the comments like what you think is it a bad thing that some of the panels are already coming loose yeah Yeah. He's like, let me know what you guys think. But he does it in this positive way. He's like, oh, my God. Day 14 with the Cybertruck. Gotta say, I'm loving it. This car is so futuristic.
Starting point is 00:09:53 The interior is rattling really loud already. The seats are fucking vibrating. Let me know in the comments what you think. Should a car be doing this after two weeks on the road? Or is this just the price we pay for having a car that's literally from the future let me know gang like from the future as imagined by the year 1988 yeah 100 100 as imagined by me with magnet tiles right yeah and like it has the same geo like you know physical nuance angular nuance and falls apart as easily as uh something as a construction from magnetiles yeah so it's just
Starting point is 00:10:27 shout out to all these people who are refusing to take an l you know like it's it's really awesome to see because it's truly some wild shit where people are like oh man i i fucked up and like went into the car wash really afraid my car is gonna die and then you'll see like update my car died and you're like yeah got wet i fucked up i got it wet elon told me i mean there's can we talk real quick about the story like one of the stories on the dock is about cyber trucks like getting defaced with somebody spray-painted the message fuck elon on like a parking lot full of like 50 of them right and the thing that i took away from it was like the way it was written about on this uh site torque news is wild they're just like uh it actually like so they were able to get the
Starting point is 00:11:22 paint off easily and the vehicles look even more shiny and stunning thanks to the deep cleaning. Exactly. That kind of shit. It ended up being a net positive that these people are so angry at the Cybertruck. Actually, the vandalism made the trucks better. When you come at Elon, it actually makes him stronger, bro. I thought you knew that. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:11:42 His ribcage just expanded three more feet he's like so like his organs are so off the chain it could be like a big old pregnant hen i don't know yeah that people say that happens like organ growth but whatever also the premise of that story that it got cleaner after it was look at this video i'm showing jack showing me a video where the slide pan it's it's flapping around flapping around like a bat like a whole ass bat it's the fucking side trim this guys and it's fully blown apart at an angle and people were like yeah i gotta take it in they said it should be an easy fix any other time people have been like this car is a fucking disaster but i don't know like in the cyber truck subreddit i'm like i i need like some ai people like look and be like is this is it all like are there bots
Starting point is 00:12:37 in there just propping up the narrative that this car isn't a total l or do people just like just in this weird ironic way people become bots like i'm following a person for so long yeah right and yeah we've all we've seen it we've been there before with the star wars prequels i gotta say before yeah the cope from cyber truck fans only second to the cope that laker fans are capable of You still don't have us beat You still don't have us beat You're close But also the idea that the Cybertrucks got cleaner
Starting point is 00:13:13 After the thing was like Wait so they're dirty when you deliver But it doesn't matter They just need to spin Everything into a win yeah but yeah there is the refrain that everyone the the most common thing is people are explaining away these like all these defects because it's clear this car just got fucking rushed off the line to to you know deliver to be delivered to customers that everyone just goes well it's so futuristic i mean like
Starting point is 00:13:42 there's obviously going to be like hiccups it's so futuristic i'm like for the seat like for the fabric on the seat to stay on yeah is that a futuristic option yeah sure okay go ahead felt stapled to the interior of like a fucking metal cage all right my underrated first of all if i didn't have kids i think i'd be underrating uh the despicable me franchise the minions are like the the degree to which the so the premise of despicable me 4 if you don't have kids uh the minions get superpowers at least that's like one of the things that happens that's an escalation in the lore of the minions yeah yeah they get like they one of the things they try is like jerry becomes super jerry and he's this like giant uh destructive yeah jerry won a minion and it has just destroyed my kids brains like they're just they saw the trailer when we went to see
Starting point is 00:14:40 they haven't woken up in days inside out 2 and are just like remember that one part like we saw inside out 2 they liked it but all they're talking about is Despicable Me 4 and like when that comes out when they're gonna see it I don't think people are ready for what Despicable Me 4 is going to
Starting point is 00:15:01 do to children or the box office I think it's gonna be a big hit and then uh also i just have to say i've been reading a lot of history uh reading a history book about uh the early days of uh john f kennedy um got a kennedy podcast, and the stupidity of Hitler's mustache at the time, like during World War II, is...
Starting point is 00:15:31 So there's a section on Hitler in this JFK biography because JFK was like a World War II hero and his girlfriend during the war was a suspected Nazi spy. Oh, what? I don't think she ended up being one, and his girlfriend during the war is was a suspected nazi spy oh what yeah like she she i don't think she ended up being one but she was like a journalist who had like written a profile
Starting point is 00:15:54 on hitler and people like wait isn't that her in the box at the berlin olympics with hitler she's like yeah what do you know you know i'm just like friendly you know i thought yeah i'm outside you know what can i say so they excerpt like one her profile of him and uh first of all it's like you immediately like the guy so not great but uh reading the profiles of him and then this like made me go look i'm always struck by the fact that it doesn't mention that his mustache looks like absolute shit like right right like what is going on and so that's i guess it's a question that i have is like yes i'm viewing it through the lens of history uh you know obviously he ruined that look but also like michael jordan tried to bring it back
Starting point is 00:16:48 michael jordan you know a very influential style stylistically like my my uh shoes are all based on things michael jordan uh you know inspired and when he tried to pull that shit off everyone's like nope no no no no no can't do it um so i don't know i guess i'm just like how isn't charlie chaplin the og of that so i guess chap chaplin's character the tramp like actually inspired him to do to wear it um he was a big chaplin fan, but that was a character. I know there's speculation of whether that actually inspired him
Starting point is 00:17:31 or not. There's all sorts of origin stories where Hitler had a normal mustache, but then World War I happened and his normal mustache couldn't fit under his gas mask. There's a super villain origin story for his stupid looking mustache. Right.
Starting point is 00:17:50 But I don't know if I buy any of that other than just that he thought it looked cool and it did not. They're probably like, dude, this guy is fucking out of his mind. Like, don't even bother bringing up the mustache. He's going to fucking kill you. Yeah. you yeah oh no it looks great dude listeners who were around in world war ii let us know sound off in the comments did you reckon did you realize that shit looked stupid as hell
Starting point is 00:18:15 at the time were you rocking the toothbrush mustache let us know yeah but i can't fully trust any historical account that doesn't open being like well first of all the must i mean the first thing you got to talk about i mean y'all should have known he was going out in public looking like that yeah all right that's that's my underrated what's something miles that you think is overrated overrated two quick things first of all uh the euros the european championship tournament has kicked off it's in full swing um i cannot stand american commentary on international soccer like this happened the first backlash was like in the 2002 world cup where like they had people like alexi lawless talking and everyone was like
Starting point is 00:18:56 get these fucking clowns off like they don't know what they're talking about they're mispronouncing all the names they don't know any context they just don't have nothing to offer and this coverage has been kind of mixed but this same guy alexi lawless i fucking hate this guy like he used to be the captain redhead guy from yeah exactly yeah he says some of the dumbest shit you've ever heard like there are times when like the other people that are on the commentating desk like there's like an english player named daniel sturridge his face literally like implodes into itself while this while lawless is like giving a terrible take about the english national team where he has no perspective on anything like he the highest level he plays like fucking you know the thing mls and i maybe he'd played in europe like once but there's like this arrogance that like some of these American commentators
Starting point is 00:19:47 that have that. So not earned like the whip. I would rather hear like players from the women's national team because they actually are goaded. Like they, they've played at the highest levels. They beat everybody. They've maintained like world championships.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Those people I want to hear from not Alexi Lawless to say some stuff like, yeah, man. So so you know like england they gotta stop whining they got so many good players they they gotta be good they shouldn't be bad and you're like what the fuck are you saying out loud so that's my first thing quick like espn level like hot take hurry yeah but it's like it's even worse because it's like as it's being said you're you're questioning if this person has even been alive and watching what like soccer for the last 20 years right what the fuck is he just saying right now um it's not even like oh you're doing
Starting point is 00:20:38 that perspective on something you kind of look at you're like it's yeah it's like an alien describing not even for the first time yeah yeah yeah you're like okay's yeah it's like an alien describing not even a take for the first time yeah yeah yeah you're like okay this is confounding um the other thing is an alien describing eggs yeah i don't know why it's just completely foreign scrambled eggs i think it's because i made it for my baby this morning yeah yeah okay and i was trying to describe it to him look it's a lot of my personal life's coming out in this take um and then the other thing is he's watching the young the youngs execute the y2k aesthetic i see it a lot on tiktok um on instagram so many of them are just dressing
Starting point is 00:21:20 up like katie perry or like jersey shore characters and i'm like y2k is not that like so first of all i'm like we're we're not defining y2k correctly like that's i feel like the first season of jersey shore was 2009 so we're at the tail like we're we're in the tens basically um and so i'm like also this is where i'm like in my old head back i'm like you gotta also the young people need to think about where we were at mentally during this y2k fashion era you know what i mean with the shiny suits with the tlc fan mail futuristic outfits with missy elliott's kind of thing with the matrix um we were completely like we were so excited about what the near future would bring that we were like oh we're basically excited about what the near future would bring that we were like
Starting point is 00:22:05 oh we're basically in spaceships the internet completely blew our minds like just in its very early period like oh my god anything is possible good yeah we hadn't realized there was a bad a downside to the internet yeah no we were hugging our computers that like were had different fucking flavors depending on what color iMac you had and we also loved our computers so much we thought that they could actually kill us in y2k so like we were into all these different futuristic textures but I get that from the perspective of 2024 you look at this you're like yeah just dress like a chaotic drug addict uh and that's that's kind of like the year 2000 look and i'm like no it was more nuanced that way but
Starting point is 00:22:46 i also we do we were guilty of the same shit growing up too when you like look back and like oh 80s style and you just wore like weird shit that was in your parents closet without anything like coherent so i get that we're playing with aesthetic things but part of me was like immediately like but that's not what it meant back then jack yeah it wasn't just about wearing you know uh mixed textures and patterns and things with flashes and neon and something super baggy and wearing a pair of goggles on your head it was more nuanced to it so are you seeing kids wearing that shit like goggles with yeah i saw some kids wearing i saw some kids wearing snoggles okay it wasn't they didn't pull
Starting point is 00:23:25 it off it was like this kid was kind of in between y2k and steampunk that i saw on the street i mean good for him yeah yeah i mean lean into it but i'm just like part of me is like all it is like were you there man yeah you weren't come on sit around man let me tell you let me tell you a little about why real quick man so this game radio fucked me up um yeah i did read that this was going to be one of your uh overrateds and took off my steampunk goggles and hey your mystery leather your leather bowler looks great, though. Thanks, man. Is that dialysis tubing wrapped around the crown? Cool, man. Whatever. Whatever.
Starting point is 00:24:10 Hey, I'm just going for something. Y2K, man. Y2K, bro. I guess overrated is not, for me, not drawing a clear line for my kids of what they can say to me in public um so so this weekend both my sons were we were at barnes and noble at the grove was picking up my kennedy book and they were getting a book for we're about to take a trip they each got a little book for the trip and they were interrogating me like tom cruise at the end of A Few Good Men.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Oh. And you're Jack Nicholson? Yeah. About whether Uranus is a gas planet because they think it's funny. And I think I've made that joke to them before. And they know what a anus is? Can you confirm that Uranus is a gas planet? It's a simple question. I mean, isn't it true that you recently told us Uranus is a gas planet? It's a simple question. I mean, isn't it true that
Starting point is 00:25:06 you recently told us Uranus is a... You doth protest too much. I know you know the answer, so just answer it. Then I'm like, fine, yes, Uranus is a gas planet. And they're like, ah! Motherfucker. Just roasting me for having an anus
Starting point is 00:25:22 that's a gas planet. First of all, I'm like, i pointed out to you that this was funny in the first place oh my god good defense there dad you can't then use the stuff i teach you to bully me in public but right yeah yeah it was uh yeah i i do where the other were there other customers in the bookstore also laughing with them? No, nobody was laughing. This motherfucker's anus is a gas planet. People falling out of chairs as they're walking up to them. Like high-fiving your kids. They're like, don't cook his ass.
Starting point is 00:25:54 All right, let's take a quick break, and then we'll get into some of the news. Let's get into some of the news. podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold
Starting point is 00:26:48 and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
Starting point is 00:27:04 or wherever you get your podcasts. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes! Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do. Like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary,
Starting point is 00:27:52 but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese.
Starting point is 00:28:23 I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch.
Starting point is 00:28:41 She is unapologetically Black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network,
Starting point is 00:29:03 iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. culture listen to naked sports on the black effect podcast network iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast the black effect podcast network is sponsored by diet coke and we're back we're back and all right so uh over the weekend we like to just catch up with with what's donald trump this time, workshopping his material. The stuff that he's workshopped that works, like the shark versus
Starting point is 00:29:34 electrocution motor he sticks with, keeps using. It's always something versus something. Last week, shark versus electrocution. This week, I think it's people something versus something last week shark versus electrocution this week I think it's people seeking a better life versus American people that
Starting point is 00:29:50 live in the country already versus UFC fighters oh so he suggested having migrants battle it out in some kind of like blood sport for his amusement fuck brought it up not once
Starting point is 00:30:09 uh multiple times over the weekend including at a christians at a faith and freedom coalition um you want to hear it you want to hear the idea out loud real quick yeah let's hear it this is uh i guess his grand idea i told dana white of UFC, I said, here's what we're going to do. You know, these are tough cookies coming into our country. Here's what we're going to do. Jesus. With prisons and mental institutions. I said to Dana White, UFC, he's got a good fight going on right now.
Starting point is 00:30:38 He's a good friend of mine. He pronounces like he's on one of the too much tuna guys. He does. He's fading the too much tuna guys. He does. He's fading into too much tuna. Yeah. You know what he said the other day? They said, who's the toughest person you've ever met? He said, definitely Donald Trump.
Starting point is 00:30:55 He said, shut the fuck up. Wow. No, he's not. But I said, Dana. Dana. Dana, jump. You make a lot of money. You're going to go and start a new migrant fight league.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Migrants, only migrants. And then at the end of the year, the champion migrant is going to fight your champion. And I hate to tell you, Dana, I think the migrant might win. That's how tough they are. Wow, got kind of quiet there yeah because everyone's like they're like but the running man was a commentary on our society exactly no i think it should be real i think it should be taken literally that is so fucking vile and this is again this we've heard reports about this is what he's taking into the debate with biden on thursday is he's this new thing is going to be all about how uh people who are immigrating here are
Starting point is 00:31:51 dangerous and are killing people and he's just again he's going for xenophobia to the fucking 666 power right now yeah um but holy shit dude and their champion fights ours and it's like game of thrones you know there could be the mountain and someone's the sand snake or scorpion whatever the fuck his name was fox and friends called it a brilliant idea for his campaign called trump self-aware and modest during the same segment um talking about that yeah yeah for that, for that. They said, well, but tucked into it is something really important, which is these guys are violent. Maybe you need Donald Trump to make sure those guys are out of the
Starting point is 00:32:31 country. He's making some really good points there. You've absolutely failed if your heinous idea for human interaction doesn't pass the Dana White test. That guy doesn't give a fuck this guy's a fucking mess and he's like what he somehow survived putting his hands on his wife in public and
Starting point is 00:32:51 people are like i don't know dana's gonna dana this dude he recently uh like was on the club talking about how being canceled was like being gay i don't know if you can't look for like spousal abuse right like that well yeah and just have the shit and all kinds of vile shit this is but yeah that was also one of the things was domestic violence um and this is his answer about like are you afraid of being canceled i equate it to being gay wow think about strong start in life back in the 80s if you came out and said you were gay, it could destroy your career. It could destroy... Imagine living a life where you can't be who you really are.
Starting point is 00:33:33 Correct. It's going to be a horrible thing. Shay. I am who I am. If you like it or you don't like it, I don't give a fuck. Brave. He said that's your problem not mine yeah yeah yeah yeah easy i'm as a cis het white guy okay with billions of dollars you know what
Starting point is 00:33:54 i mean yeah like i'm being brave for being for not evolving with the times and correct holding on to archaic correct shannon sharp yes the worst dude he is the worst fucking interviewer wow sharp unbelievable um that's wild that is uh yeah anyway that's that guy who is being like it's like being gay in the 80s is like i don't know donald about her yeah migrant fight club yeah but he yeah even he uh even within the story by donald trump who said donald trump is the toughest guy he knows which is again like donald trump takes things that people say to humor rich people and he's like this is a fact jack dan white says i'm the toughest dude out there that i could which i just wish like he would believe it so much that he
Starting point is 00:34:45 maybe got in the ring like i knew i was going to be president when i went to disneyland and i went to the sword in the stone and i pulled the sword out of the rock it doesn't come out for everyone folks only people that can be king arthur that's right and i pulled it out and then they said i could be king and it's like very self-aware and modest uh great great description it's the kind of shit a preschooler says after they went to like a like a character party and it's like batman told me i was stronger than him and you know that's not the you know what yeah oh that's nice you are stronger than batman well as we were looking at that clip we couldn't help but notice that uh the number one trending thing right now is dave girl um dave girl of the foo fighters of nirvana dave dave dave he's got another confession
Starting point is 00:35:34 to make you know you fucked up dave right you know you know you fucked up i don't know yet where are all these posts coming from are they they from your fans? Wow. Dave, you really kind of stepped in it and then rolled around in it, didn't you? Right. Might be what you like, huh, Dave? But yeah, so Taylor Swift, the Eras Tour
Starting point is 00:35:58 hit London over the weekend and it was the first time, first of all, Paul McCartney, cruise prince william um i don't know who those people are but like apparently they're famous with oh some people and also of course most importantly travis kelsey who donned a tuxedo and performed in the show for the first time i don't know what that means i think because he went he was actually on stage this time rather than being like in the on backstage and he performed like he
Starting point is 00:36:31 danced is he i don't know i just heard he was on stage wow um i'm just mad i don't have i'm not in a relationship like that that allows me to be in front of hundreds of thousands of people in a tuxedo but yeah dancing with a billionaire um during her second night at wembley stadium though the foo fighters were also in town playing at london stadium uh i'm not sure which of those is bigger um wait where was she she was at wembley oh yeah wembley's wembley is the biggest oh it's bigger alright London Saining was made for the London Olympics And then now West Ham United plays there
Starting point is 00:37:10 So not very storied Dave is it No very new only 12 years old Oh who can forget The 2012 Olympics Cool cool cool The year of Bolt But he couldn't stop himself from mentioning Taylor Swift he said i
Starting point is 00:37:25 tell you man you don't want to suffer the wrath of taylor swift and paused before rolling forward into something that was going to draw the wrath of taylor swift we like to call our tour the errors tour we've had more than a few eras and more than a few fucking errors as well just a couple those words sound alike uh and then here's where it gets interesting he said that's because we actually play live what i'm just saying you guys like raw live rock and roll music right well you came to the right fucking place i'll be great if you just started like shredding atonally like you didn't know how to play the guitar um no i'm sure i'm sure he shredded after that he's a great musician dude also there's something kind of bummed me out about him being like you guys like raw live
Starting point is 00:38:37 rock and roll music right that just feels like i'm like oh man dude we know we're here for a concert but like rock and roll doesn't have the same cachet that it did yeah like y'all like some rock and roll right but yeah i'm just picturing taylor swift just smiling to herself a little bit and just being like wow this really doesn't know this is what i think really she's like huh oh so you want that huh okay alright might suck if the scaffolding fails at your next show I don't know I don't know I'm just saying
Starting point is 00:39:11 I don't need to make that happen cause you're gonna do the right thing and you're going to kill yourself Dave for that misstep I'm in your dreams Dave I'm in your dreams yeah I like picturing her like J edgar hoover just like being like the only uh you know reasonable responsible thing for you to do would be uh to kill yourself uh out of
Starting point is 00:39:35 shame and embarrassment i don't know that it's uh i'm sure this is going to cause a bigger backlash than it ought to um but mainly people are talking about you know taylor swift does use backing tracks and auto tuning uh as does every major pop act um and i guess the foo fighters don't use backing tracks but dave girl's also not performing choreographed dance moves uh while singing ever long but i think the other thing is too his daughter got absolutely fucking dogpiled for insinuating that taylor swift maybe doesn't take private jets so i have a feeling he's like references like you know they came for his kids so he's gonna be like you know what yeah i will allude to this thing as a slight pushback
Starting point is 00:40:23 but not enough for it to be... It feels like part saltiness because you're kind of like this old rocker dude and you're seeing how the industry might be changing in that sense, but also your daughter also got... They came for your daughter, so you're probably going to defend her. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:40 That makes sense to me. And I don't know. It's probably good for both tours to be honest um which is important because i i really do want taylor swift to continue to break all the records with her errors tour you know yeah yeah yeah yeah and for for for carbon emissions i want to i want that for you too i want to add that too um because what is it like one percent of travelers cause 50 of the emissions like when you look at the yeah it's it's pretty it's pretty stark um but hey dave grohl we love rock and roll man keep doing your thing man just
Starting point is 00:41:19 do everlong the acoustic version for me one time please yeah and everybody will will feel great but yeah point out her band is going to be playing live for you for three and a half hours tonight not mentioning anybody's name but yeah but y'all get it you know you fucked up dave you know you fucked up dave i'm sorry can i call you david david david i'm sorry dave it's time for you to die all right let's uh let's take one more quick break and we'll be right back Can I call you David? Dave. David. I'm sorry, Dave. It's time for you to die. All right. Let's take one more quick break, and we'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series,
Starting point is 00:42:02 Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and LA-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high control groups and interview dancers, church members and others whose lives and careers have been impacted just like mine. Through powerful in-depth interviews with former members and new chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions. Like, how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or, can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job?
Starting point is 00:43:15 Girl, yes. Each week, we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100 percent of the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself.
Starting point is 00:43:43 Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 00:44:15 Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is
Starting point is 00:44:27 a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent
Starting point is 00:44:43 is getting better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. And we're back. We're back, man. We're back we're back man we're back man and the real hot topic on the internet this weekend was toilet stall etiquette so a woman's post on mumsnet all right mumsnet mumsnet about uh loo etiquette has gone viral uh she recounted a story about going to the
Starting point is 00:45:28 bathroom at work including she included a diagram hopefully uh in which three stalls are labeled a b and c with a being the closest to the door and c being the furthest um and even like bathroom relation to the where the sinks are too very thorough diagram the sinks are across from the front of the stalls so they're not it's not one of those situations where you come in sinks over to the left and then you get the
Starting point is 00:45:56 stalls nope they're right across it's a galley bathroom galley bathroom folks you walk in the door miles you go into the furthest stall just for what pp or poo poo for poo poo i mean that's why we're using the stall right i don't understand the question and i won't respond to it so she built into this is the assumption you always use the furthest from the door um okay that that is absolutely the case for me um i will if there's someone in the furthest one from the door i might
Starting point is 00:46:34 come back i might go sit in my uh cubicle for you know 15 minutes uh sweating uncomfortably and just wait for that person to be done. There's something about being in that first stall where your shoes are the first thing they see upon entering. You always look at the shoes. Upon entry,
Starting point is 00:46:58 you always look at the shoes. I make a little note in my note tap to be like, okay, here's how I know who was shitting earlier. Remember these shoes. Just so you know, fucking Jimmy, the fucking director of the company, he has the fucking pants
Starting point is 00:47:14 all, they're touching the ground on his ankles. He's not even holding them kind of up. They're on the floor. Disgusting. But anyways. So C, the furthest one, is the optimal. She went in. No one's there.
Starting point is 00:47:27 She goes in to C. Another person comes in. They go in to B. Oh, didn't keep a buffer stall. Did not keep a buffer stall. She wrote, I think that's madness and can't fathom why. Out of the two remaining cubicles available, I love that she calls stalls where you
Starting point is 00:47:46 shit cubicles you'd opt to go into the one right next to someone I get it but for the aforementioned I don't want my shoes to be the first thing that somebody sees when they walk into the bathroom like that's you might as well just like take the fucking stall down and just
Starting point is 00:48:01 be sitting there you can see my shoes man you're gonna know it's me you're gonna know that i poop all right here i'll take a selfie and i'll show you under the stall what my face looks like all right there you go now you show me um this is i don't know why i have so much shame about the fact that i poop because uh turns out according to uh some recent literature uh the in the in the children's book variety everybody poops um i don't know i've dated a few people that swear they didn't yeah um but for me this is this is why again at up top i said i don't understand the question i won't respond to it because i will not use a pub i will not i will not do number two in a public bathroom in a public restaurant unless i'm in japan okay because they're no because you
Starting point is 00:48:50 know we're a shame-based society so the idea of hearing somebody blow a stall out is not like something we're into like there there are some toilets have a sound it'll make a distraction sound while you're sitting on it because you don't want to you don't want to contribute to this the sonic soundscapes of the of the restroom with your bodily functions um i'm always home field advantage i've always my body is like that because for me i think i just don't yeah i think it's a I just don't want anybody to have Jack Nicholson front row at the Lake Show tickets to me taking a shit because they do
Starting point is 00:49:31 I feel like this is just left over from me being in high school you know assumptions that I made when I was in high school like they're gonna care that I'm going to the bathroom and they're gonna tell everybody like social examining it i'm like oh nobody gives a shit literally no but to be fair you never walked in there somebody's doing a paint job and if you're
Starting point is 00:49:55 with a group you're like yo somebody is doing an absolute paint job in there right now you and they're wearing beat up jordan ones it's because i don't i think because i don't feel like i feel like you're you're being in there you are now fodder for me to talk about that i just have to so all my fears are coming true they are yeah again most of our fears are based on whatever screwed up reality we live in in our own heads that yeah you know if you're actually reality tested 99 of the time is fucking nonsense it's just in your own heads that yeah you know if you're actually reality tested 99 of the time is fucking nonsense it's just in your own neurotic mind yeah but yeah i get it if you're if you're in the bathroom and you're trying to take a shit you're like okay maybe you could keep one between
Starting point is 00:50:34 us but at that point like just do your shit and get out you know what i mean so people are split on this some people agreed saying that they try to leave a gap between stalls while others said it just doesn't matter because there are quote no rules in public bathrooms that implies like a international waters get out of jail free mindset that actually definitely explains some of the public bathrooms i've witnessed in my time like some people are like hey here we go this is my time to just get every stop the sinks up with paper towels keep them running have them overflowing do it no rules in here i think at the end of the day right if you're if you decide to move your bowels in the public restroom
Starting point is 00:51:17 you got it the thing is those are there for everybody to do the same so what difference does it make if someone's in the stall next to you or not like just fucking go in there to do what you got to do like everyone has the right to take a dump in there so don't act like you got to keep the one next to me open or whatever like nah man just take your shit and move on if you don't like it that much reroute your brain wiring like i have and you know have bad digestive issues and only go home there are no rules in the part of the social contract. There are no rules. Part of the social contract is there are no rules and I can stand on the toilet seat and try
Starting point is 00:51:50 to shit down into it. That's part of the social contract. If there's no squatty potty, you know what I mean? You kind of do have to stand on the edges of the bowl to get that posture. And if I miss, that's on you. Literally. Alright. to get that posture so and if i miss that's on you literally all right uh all right uh
Starting point is 00:52:08 what else is happening miles we've got an ice hockey story it's not often you know despite this being the the game that you grew up playing loving played the most years of in terms of organized sports yeah the most most time i spent was playing ice hockey yes and did i watch it ever no i was one of those anomalous people who's like love to play it watching it sometimes thanks love playing all the puck i don't understand what's going on i don't get the game yeah um i didn't know the rules you just came out and took swings at people oh yeah they call me the grim reaper i was just scything people down with the stick so an amazing thing is happening in the nhl stanley cup finals so the florida panthers were up 3-0 in the best of seven series hey we know what that means in
Starting point is 00:52:59 sports most of the time that's a wrap like that's a death blow no team in any round of the time. In sports, that's a wrap. That's a death blow. No team in any round of the playoffs in the NBA has ever come back from 3-0 down. I guess it's happened in hockey before, but never in the finals. And this is the first time since 1945 that a team has come back to tie a series after going down three games to zero in the cup final.
Starting point is 00:53:20 And only one team has ever won the Stanley Cup after such a comeback. Okay, so one team has done that. But it hasn't a comeback. Okay, so one team has done that. But it hasn't, not since 1945, which was a while ago. That was an era when people thought Hitler's mustache looked cool. Yeah. So they're up 3-0. And then Donald Trump comes on the microphone of Truth Social. And there's a little feedback then he says wow
Starting point is 00:53:46 the florida panthers are a fantastic ice hockey team there it is he did it that's that's all it takes they're 3-0 against the very good edmonton oilers from canada they're down 1-2-0 tonight but it's still early hopefully they will put them him away. Very impressive. So the Panthers ended up losing that game 8-1, which isn't even like a hockey score. Yeah, that's wild. And then haven't won a game since, which has led a lot of fans
Starting point is 00:54:16 to suggest that Trump cursed the team. So what's the series at now? Showing you how invested I am. Oh, it's tied up? It's 3-3. Game 7 is tonight. Oh, shit. We're providing a public service for listeners also, just by letting you know.
Starting point is 00:54:32 The very few of you who aren't huge ice hockey fans. Hey, shout out to the Canadian Zeitgang, because I know there's Edmonton fans in the Zeitgang. So I hope y'all pull it off. Pull it off. Do your thing. I love seeing history be made will i watch probably not but i believe uh but this is a lot of people are like all right so
Starting point is 00:54:51 trump is kind of what what ted cruz is to various texas sports oh yeah yeah texas um trump has been criticized for dooming nfl teams in the past uh he, I don't know, made friends with what was like got the endorsement of the tacit endorsement of Tom Brady and Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick. And then the Patriots proceeded to have a rough couple of years. But I don't know if the Panthers lose tonight and enough people blame Trump. Let's just... We're grasping at straws here, folks. But we don't want Plan 2025. What is it?
Starting point is 00:55:31 Project 2025. Project 2025. Yeah. Clan 2025. I think the... Yeah. May his powers wane at the very least. The truth social that he truthed,
Starting point is 00:55:46 it's like if you ask Chad GPT to write a tweet in Magic Johnson's Twitter voice. Wow, the Florida Panthers are a fantastic hockey team. They're 3-0 down against the very good Edmonton Oilers from Canada. They're down 1-0 tonight.
Starting point is 00:56:02 It's almost exactly what a Magic Johnson tweet is just like a word for word recap of the thing the most basic thing that everybody already knows happens yeah exactly and opt in with like just a tinge of optimism with it and but literally describing what's happening he tweets in a world where like twitter doesn't exist essentially and like we're all just waiting for the sports page the next day to tell us what happened and finally seinfeld keeps quote roasting anti-war protesters in australia he's on his australian tour and was once again interrupted by anti-war protesters and judging from the headlines he
Starting point is 00:56:46 quote roasted them uh which what an appropriate response yeah to people who are there protesting genocidal activities and the killing of innocent people why don't you be quiet oh oh snap broasted his ass. Yeah. So someone was calling for Palestine to be free and his comeback was, I think you need to go back and tell whoever is running your organization
Starting point is 00:57:16 we just gave more money to a Jew. That cannot be a good plan for you. You gotta come up with a better plan. Which implies that anyone expressing outrage over genocide are part of some coordinated organization that is purely motivated by anti-semitism that's been the rhetorical strategy uh that's been that's being on message at least yeah you bet you got to tell who's ever running your organ is i don't know the many people who
Starting point is 00:57:43 we talk about this all the time like this the conspiracies around it can't be that so many people look upon the violence there and say like they're being paid or they're in some kind of kind of group called humans with eyes and empathy yeah wild wow people also described it as roasting when he like kind of got trumpian uh last week. Similar incident. He was interrupted during... Oh, he was like, you're going to get beat up or something? Yeah, yeah. He called the protester
Starting point is 00:58:12 a moron saying, we have a genius, ladies and gentlemen. He solved the Middle East. So he said, we have a genius, ladies and gentlemen. He solved the Middle East. It's the Jewish comedians. That's who we have to get.
Starting point is 00:58:28 They're the ones doing everything. And the person continued to chant, Palestine will be free. During their exit, the comedian added, go ahead, keep going. They're going to start punching you in about three seconds. So I would try to get all of your genius out so we can all learn from you. It's a comedy show you moron get out of here um sounds like he's in a good place yeah also like way to like completely it's the fact that you have been such an outspoken supporter of the idf and like we're doing like little
Starting point is 00:58:58 military larpings with them yeah like that's not your fucking airplane it's not because you're a comedian yeah it's like yeah come after me the jewish comedian who is like a cheerleader for what's happening like i did what way to contort things so you can just continue to be like yeah yeah i'm roasting you you got roasted it's just weird headline writing this is also with everything that's happening too they just killed one of the health ministers in gaza and they're like we've knocked a pillar out of their medical system is like what the idf is like claiming there's the there was footage of like an injured uh palestinian in the west bank that the soldiers put on the hood of their car and drove through where they're like you're like are you using this person as a literal human shield or will you know again a lot of people point at the headlines they're like they strapped an injured man to the
Starting point is 00:59:50 front of their car it's like to dissuade people from attacking it i believe in the same way you are hurling claims of human shield use this is such a fucking awful time and you know not to just to turn the heat up a little more with everything that's heating up uh on the border between lebanon and israel and we're moving like military infrastructure into the region because it's like well if something kicks off with hezbollah and lebanon the u.s might also dive in uh things are very not good which would of course be really good for Donald Trump also
Starting point is 01:00:27 or I don't know I mean thinking of how a lot of you know the way power works in this country it's like a war is great for an election though you know maybe to stay in office I don't the cynical thinking of these people it's horrifying but yeah
Starting point is 01:00:44 yeah it just feels like maybe instead of framing this as Seinfeld roasts hecklers maybe the angle should be comedian laughs off mass murder like literally as this is happening Israel just bombed a UN RWA camp killing at least eight yeah which is one of the few means of providing aid to Gaza right now. Yeah. I mean, yeah, you, you're not going to hear the media begin to shift on that sense. It's going to be because you can, this,
Starting point is 01:01:10 the, you know, mainstream media has cited with the take that at worst, it's like Israel can maybe be doing a little bit better here by protecting innocent people, but it's not going to be like, and shame on them. Shame on this comedian for laughing
Starting point is 01:01:26 off the atrocities that are happening right right yeah it's and yeah they're all they're just going to frame people who are outraged as you know as part of some kind of weird terrorist conspiracy or whatever the fuck yeah yeah very difficult to watch because you know we're just just constantly getting the reminder a reminder that you know especially this country is able to so quickly just determine who is human or who is not or who determined or who is uh worthy of you know respect or dignity uh at any level so yeah all right but yeah jerry yeah do your yeah roast do your thing yeah all right also difficult to watch because we want them to get back to those hilarious jokes about how we scroll through our phones like a gay French king.
Starting point is 01:02:09 You know? All this latter day material. So solid. All right. Those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday, June 24th. We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other. Be kind to yourselves.
Starting point is 01:02:28 Get your vaccines. Get your flu shots. Don't do nothing about white supremacy. We will talk to y'all tomorrow. Bye. Bye. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and Shekinah Church. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is Season 4 of Naked Sports. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. Every great player needs a foil. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game.
Starting point is 01:03:29 Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Listen to the making of a rivalry. Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradenti. And I'm Jermaine Jackson-Gadson. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts.
Starting point is 01:03:52 There's a lot to figure out when you're just starting your career. That's where we come in. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in people who do, like negotiation expert Maury Tahiripour. If you start thinking about negotiations as just a conversation, then I think it sort of eases us a little bit. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app,
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