The Daily Zeitgeist - Facebook Getting Desperate, How Is This Diana Musical A Thing? 10.5.21

Episode Date: October 5, 2021

In episode 1002, Jack and Miles are joined by host of The Scroll Down podcast Marcella Arguello to discuss how Kristi Noem defends herself from nepotism accusations, The World’s Oldest Rainforest Was Just Handed Back to Its Indigenous Owners, ‘Pandora Papers’ Shed Light On Global Elite’s Financial Secrets, Facebook Is In Trouble? Diana The Musical is a Thing That Somehow Exists, and more!FOOTNOTES: Kristi Noem defends herself from nepotism accusations by admitting YEAH NEPOTISM Good News: The World’s Oldest Rainforest Was Just Handed Back to Its Indigenous Owners ‘Pandora Papers’ Shed Light On Global Elite’s Financial Secrets Facebook Is In Trouble?  Diana The Musical is a Thing That Somehow Exists Unglued - South By West Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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My name is Jack O'Brien, aka Soak Me in a BYU dorm nightly while my friend shakes the bed. Don't move. Don't move a single inch. You stay completely still I'll do a plank

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because it is the most annoying band name of all time, maybe. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! So don't come around to, uh-oh, the Commodus gave Thumbs Down a no! thumbs down oh no and for those people who don't remember that we were talking about how comedists from gladiator may have been the origins of thumbs up and thumbs down yeah our culture into oblivion shout out to andrew bub on the discord because i i really miss that song derp commissar also it is october 5th and we got forgot to tell you it is national get funky day national get funky day yeah so however you got to get funky you go off and fucking do that i almost felt like i didn't need to tell people it's like christmas

halloween and national get funky day are like the days uh that we all have marked on our calendar right oh yeah yeah happy national get funky day to you all they say hey get funky and get out of your funk from the people who are trying to promote it. Who are these people? We really need to look into the International Day Industrial Complex. Yeah. They're doing good work out there. Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the funniest stand-up comedians doing it.

She's the co-host of The Scroll Down on HeadGum. And you could and should go get her stand-up album, The Woke Bully. Please welcome the hilarious, the talented, Marcella Arguello! Marcella, I got the best of you, but I just keep on coming back incessantly. Oh, why do they keep bringing me back on the show? Cause I'm funny as fuck, even when I make you bitches

mad. I just improvised that. Thank you. I was trying to get funky with you guys. Thank you, Mariah. I got scared. I was like, is that enough syllables? Yes, I got there. No, you got it. You got the gif. Do you freestyle rap ever? I used to, and then I embarrassed myself at a Talib Kweli show.

You were displaying the qualities of someone who does freestyle because you're like, let me fit these syllables in. I got it. I got this. And I landed the plane. I'm like, okay. I want to see her in a cypher with a backpack on. I was nervous halfway through. I was like, I think I'm not going to get it.

I'm sorry. You said you embarrassed yourself at a Talib Kweli show? Yeah, Talib was late. Also, fuck Talib Kweli. He's like really a piece of shit online to women. But anyways, he was hella late at a show in Modesto. This was years ago, probably

like 15 years ago, maybe. And he was hella late, so they were just like letting people freestyle on stage. Oh my god! Shout out to the fat cat but it was hella funny because i this used to be back i don't even know i might have already been doing comedy i don't remember but this was back when like if i was ever out anywhere at like a show or something and there was no women performing i would fucking insert myself i didn't give a fuck what my skill level was i was like i don't give a fuck and that was one

of those situations like oh there's a bunch of guys freestyling and they're not even good and it kind of fucking sucks so i went on stage and people were just got hyped because i was a woman on stage it was fucking ridiculous but it was not. Do you remember the beat that was playing? I don't. I have a really cool picture, though. It looked like a badass. Oh, like with you rocking the mic? Yeah.

Oh, I'm like, I'm like, please buy that shit. My hand is up. Right, right, right. It was on Facebook. I don't know where it is anymore, but it was a cool pic.

Hell yeah. That's fucking cool. That is the best retirement from freestyle stories that i could possibly imagine you know what i also freestyled at a what you know all those white kids that have like ucb rap shows it was one of those type things oh yeah like uh who was eliza skinner and maybe maybe it was that and and they had me on and i can like pre-write a really good rap obviously but like uh freestyle but what's funny is i wasn't even that good but i embarrassed over my eagle that night i made him look bad and i was better than him

and that uh fucked with people a little bit damn and i i said i insulted him or something i forget what i said i don't know i just made fun of you and mike on to have the healing session all right marcel we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. We are going to check back in with Kristi Noem and her stance on nepotism. It's just a good old-fashioned story of local nepotism. We'll do a piece of good news. The world's oldest rainforest was just handed back to its indigenous owners.

So we will talk about that. We'll talk about the Pandora Papers, of course. We will ask whether Facebook is in trouble and what that means for the rest of us. All of that. We might even get to Diana the musical. You have to. I saw part of it. Oh, you did?

Off the strength of it, I caught the first act. And I'm like, oh, my goodness. Wow. Okay. We might just talk about Diana the musical. All of that. Plenty more. But first, Marcella, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history? I had to Google San Francisco Fleet Week because I didn't know what the fuck that was.

And I'm in Modesto, California right now. And we've been having uh these i just been me and my brother have been noticing these little like cute little planes and then like multiple planes at once for just crisscrossing and i was like what the fuck is going on and then my friend who lives in san francisco was like it's fleet week and i was like what the fuck it's fleet week and then i fucking put the thoughts together once i hit the google i didn't read about it because i don't give a shit it just feels like a waste of money oh yeah but yeah i guess that's happening this week and uh they are practicing in modesto california so what what is it it's when

all the do fucking air shows or some stupid shit but it's like a thing where like a lot of the like navy people coast guard like shit-based military, like come to town. It's been a thing for like a minute. And then they'll have air shows and shit. It's just kind of like, yo, we're here. We're in the city. They have potholes all over the city, but they're using the money for fucking Fleet Week.

I associate it with like old-timey, like a bunch of sailors in their whites just like walking around. Yeah, exactly. Causing trouble, getting into fights and bars in the Lower East Side or whatever. Yeah, that happens. And then you get a little Blue Angels, you know, a party going on there too.

It's one of those traditions that feels really childish. Yeah. Yeah. I think they need to pick one. Why the planes? Aren't they supposed to be on the water? What's happening? Because they're launched from the aircraft carrier.

I don't know. Yeah. Fuck it. Whatever. I'm no military expert, but I say pick one. I mean, that's a good thing, right? The Navy. Yeah.

I'm sure I'm going to get hate mail for mentioning that, right? Somebody will be like, I served, and it's a very important tradition. I feel like a lot of the people that served and listened to the show, they come through with very enlightening opinions on it. They're like, yeah, this is what's fucked up about the military. I'm like, thank you for that. They're going to be like, it adds millions of dollars to the local economy. I feel like that's the...

What are you like, Ted Cruz? Ted Cruz is a big fan. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he does like The Daily Zeitgeist. Weird. What is something you think is overrated? Okay, I actually thought about this one because I know I'm not always, you know, very good at this. No, you're one of the greats.

Thank you. I think that 90s movies are overrated in terms of content. You know, you're like, oh, that used to be my favorite movie. And then you watch it and you're like, they're transphobic they're being homophobic this is like all this movie is sexism i mean and and racism and all the isms and then and so like the the nostalgia lies and like you enjoyed it as a little kid you know yeah i would argue that the only movie that stands the test of time which is an 80s movie is labyrinth but but that has more to do with David Bowie's balls. So hot.

But yeah, I always think like nineties, but like Ace Ventura, a great example of something that like, you're like, whoa, we're like, Oh my God.

And we were kids enjoying it. Like, Oh yeah, that's gross. And I'm like, it's the worst case of hemorrhoids anyone has ever seen. And then you're like oh yeah that's gross and i'm like it's the worst case of hemorrhoids anyone has ever seen oh my god and then you're like then you get older you're like whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa what is this and for a while i didn't even connect the two

until i got much older right i was just like i don't know maybe the the the character uh what is it the einhorn shit or pants and i was just like no concept of anything else and then you get only like oh whoa but see that's how they fucking infiltrate your brain and like you don't even realize why you're transphobic when you when you're a teenager you know you're just like why am i so true and it's like dude the images were there since you were a kid so that's overrated what i think is underrated about 90s movies is the length when can we go back to hour and a half movies in theaters because these stories are too long they just they don't know how to edit down anymore and it's what did you see recently that made you feel like that i don't even know i couldn't even tell you it's

just everything it feels like they're just too long because you know when especially especially as someone in the industry i'm just like how did does not get cut out it's pointless right even even going down to shows like i've been watching the morning show and i'm like this should not be an hour these scenes could be so much shorter if they just focused on the editing right so i think the length of shit is too long yeah that's kind of because like i remember over the weekend i was talking to anna about the sopranos movie and she's like oh it's three hours and i said what the fuck yeah exactly hours and i immediately was like having to have this like crossroads i'm like i don't i i'll never i don't it's very hard for me to say i'm

gonna give you three hours just like that even though i will casually sit down and watch like nine episodes of a reality show next thing i know it's you know three in the morning but so real quick i was just about to bring that same thing up but it looks like it's a it's just two hours so oh thank god it just shows you how i'm on a hair trigger when it comes to long movies no two hours is still long for a movie yeah two hours is the most is the most absolute peak i feel like really i think that's some epic but even i don't know i feel like everything can be shortened down a little bit sure yeah i also feel like if it's if it is over two hours it's like just make a series right yeah turn this into you You know. Like the Irishman. How long was that?

That was over three hours. Yeah. And you're like. Felt like. An eternity. It felt like a fucking lifetime. I mean, the other thing is. Like part of the reason I don't even watch some of these things is because they're too long.

I'm like, I'm not going to sit down and watch this. This is. They're not going to get it from me. Right. My attention span. Maybe that. Shout out to ADHD. I mean, maybe it's that. But I just.

It's a movie. The Irish man is three and a half hours long which one the irishman for what for what to watch of an irishman no thank you yeah i have to see plenty of those yeah the 90s thing is really funny too because like even like when i watch the office right there's times I love The Office. Like I've watched it so many times I can fucking I can say every line from that show. But then there's a lot of nuance in it where like you just see a lot of casual ignorance just be kind of like skirted when I'm like, no, y'all should dead that right there. Right. Please dead that for the good of society. y'all should dead that right there.

Please dead that for the good of society. Or even like in a lot of nineties films too, when I go back and watch it, it really does have, you have a kind of a moment where you're like, I'm not actually enjoying watching this because I'm, I've just gained more experience and empathy over the years. But I also just love the memory though,

of like that time, which is me eating an ice cream, watching it. But not just that. Cause I think about how like, I can still watch Seinfeld and like, you know, Elaine pushes their asses on sexism and like even like the whole like the gay episode not that there's anything wrong with that i mean that was the 90s so it's like it's proof that that that those ideologies were already existing on both ends but it was like who was making what so especially when i watched seinfeld i'm like oh it is possible. So, some of the people did know.

They just didn't give a shit. Like, they really just leaned into their isms. And it shows when you watch anything, especially from the 90s. Yeah. Yeah, Seinfeld is going to be, when does that, like, Netflix run kick off? It's on right now. Yeah, it's on now. I think it was yesterday, two days ago.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. it's back baby i'm ready is is that do you think that that's going to have like the resurgence to like friends or the office head like where people because i do feel like it was so huge at the time and now younger people like don't really fuck with it i don't know i don't know i don't know that's a good question i mean it's been on hulu this whole time so it's not like people didn't have access to it right and uh i don't know i think i think a lot of young people who just see four white faces and they're

like i'm not gonna watch this which is understandable but you're right friends had a little resurgence i just i don't think it would be possible because of the whole michael richards incident that has really followed them and i just don't think like julia louis-dreyfus would be down anyways just like for what yeah and also like seinfeld isn't the best like i feel like but like his politics are oh yeah yeah yeah his stand-up has gotten like so fucking bad i mean his stand-up wasn't great to begin with i mean it was funny to me because i was 12 when i watched it you know but like now it's like oh this isn't even funny but you can see why

working as a team can make a bit funnier you know like because some of his bits were like the premises were you're like okay this is interesting solid yeah oh my god bobcat goldthwait fucking i guess they hate each other i did a show where he was talking shit. It was so funny. I guess he spent the 90s calling Seinfeld's comedy pedestrian. Oh, fuck yeah. Oh my God. He was talking shit at one show we were on together. And I loved every second.

It was right out. Remember how Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee, the whole Bridget thing, and they edited it out and it was Bobcat. I mean, I'm sure you guys heard it was Bob the what wait i don't know the one of the episodes bridget everett and seinfeld are talking about a comic but it gets edited and jerry expresses how much he doesn't like this person which is not like him he never probably shits on anybody and so uh like people i don't know the internet did its thing and they figured out that it was bobcat and then bobcat was talking about it on stage like i saw i performed with him like a few months after that shit went down i don't know what season it was it was the

second or third season of comedians and cars that bridget's on and um yeah he was just talking shit about him and it was so fun and i love seinfeld i love the tv show and i loved the stand-up back in the day i don't love it anymore um i was actually got into a debate with an older comic about it because i'm like he's not that funny anymore and she's like but he is and i'm like no no he's doing the exact same thing exact same thing he did in the 90s and it's not funny anymore and it really wasn't funny to begin with but at the time it was like quote-unquote innovative you know what's the deal with right it was doing even bobcat moved fast from like thank you very much exactly like yo that shit was killing though but it was he had a vision and i'm like and i've i've

yeah i've been such a huge fan yeah and so and you're right though he has evolved he's a different comic than he was back then but he's still very funny yeah you're right if you don't evolve as a comic you're not gonna yeah because i mean imagine him doing that shit now i mean i would love it for the nostalgia like if he brought it back for like one show like oh that's interesting but if he can if he was like he never got past that i think people would be like i don't know right and he has a good sense of humor about it too because i i like i brought i i like mentioned to my mom because i've done multiple shows with him and i mentioned it to my mom, and she did the voice. And it was so funny.

And I did it in front of him on stage, and he fucking busted up laughing. It was just that thing of like, I mean, that's how we associate him with, and I'm glad he doesn't look down on it, you know? Right, right, right. Seinfeld's sense of humor is kind of locked in where it was. There's that theory that famous people stop evolving at the peak of their fame because that's just the most adulation they've ever gotten. And also they kind of get surrounded by people who are just telling them whatever they want to hear. And I feel like for Seinfeld, that's like Michael Jordan's sense of fashion. It's just like that's, it's going to be 1994 forever for both of those guys.

He's not like on a program where he's like, oh, like excess is bad. He's like, why don't you have a Mercedes? Why don't you have nine cars? That's the only episode I saw of that show was with Zach Galifianakis. And he was like, your house sucks. I was like,'s the only episode i saw of that show is with zach alphanakis and he was like your house sucks i was like yeah he's living how he wants to i just thought you would have lived in

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or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back, and christy gnome is defending herself from nepotism accusations by just like admitting she did nepotism kind of like yeah okay maybe i did that shit but not the way you think so yeah you know she's been in the news for last week that story came out the rumor that she was sleeping with cory lewandowski from trump world like they were having an affair and then she's been in the news for last week. That story came out. The rumor that she was sleeping with Corey Lewandowski from Trump World, like they were having an affair. And then she's like, I love my husband, whatever. It's like we've raised God fearing children together.

I'm off this. Like, this is a bad rumor. And people were like, wow. OK, that by addressing it, it seems a little bit more guilty. But hey, you, Christy, you got to do you. by addressing it it seems a little bit more guilty but hey do you christy you gotta do you and now she's like over the last you know two weeks or so this nepotism thing has been getting louder and louder and louder and because here's the deal you know her daughter just if like about two years ago she wanted to be a real estate appraiser but you know like the tests and

certifications were just like so unfair that the board denied her application and certification and the state says that they will like in order to have your certification denied it's denied when quote in applicants work samples don't meet minimum compliance with national standards i mean try to imagine how bad her application must have been for her to not get the approval in the first place when her mom is, you know. First of all, the application was in crayon. I don't know if you guys know. It must have been. It must have literally been in crayon.

She's like, you traced someone else's application on top of this with crayon. It's not even your name, miss. Oh, okay. So there's all these biases and things I got to overcome now. And I mean, look, no shade to real estate applications. It seems fairly straightforward to get licensed. I know an appraiser, like this specific certification might be a little more specific.

I'm sure. However, it just seems like anything. I'm sure it's hard for a lot of people but not the not her you wouldn't like this because the the moment that they denied this the meeting that you're about to describe was like set in motion and they had to have known that like there was no only one option so the uh certification denied governor mommy coming through and demand demanded a fucking soprano style sit down with Sherry Bren, who is the manager of the appraiser certification program, her direct supervisor and the state secretary of labor. And her daughter and her daughter was there. I do like that.

She did. Let me talk to your manager with you and your direct supervisor. I need to speak to everyone's manager. So who's your manager? Okay, their manager as well. And who's yours? Them too. I just love that she did all that when she could have just hired somebody to fill

out the application. You know what I mean? There's so many ways you could have really played the system if you wanted to. My daughter was trying to do it the right way, Marcel. Failing spectacularly and then having her mother abuse the office, the power of her office to get this done. So oddly enough, a couple months after that meeting, boom, she's certified. Baby's certified and is ready to start appraising, appraise the Lord. and is ready to start appraising,

appraise the Lord, but it is not nepotism. And Kristi Noem did a vertical video apology. So, you know, she's fucking serious about this. So this is Governor Noem's self-taped. It wasn't nepotism, but very, listen very closely to how she just even lets this unfold. And I wanted to take a second

to set the record straight. I never once asked for special treatment for Cassidy. She is my daughter and I'm proud of her. I raised her to accomplish things on her own, just like my parents raised me. Other appraisers went through the exact same process that Cassidy did. Right here. And I'll be honest, my administration started fixing that process and it was way too difficult appraisers weren't getting certified and south dakota having to wait much longer to buy a home than in other states okay that's it i don't even care about the rest of it she said it goes yo i didn't do nothing

however we have the process in the problem yeah it was way too hard way too difficult i'm sorry did you is that a direct quote from your daughter? Mom, it's way too difficult. I don't fucking... It's too difficult. I just generally cut this application process and I had to fill it out all by myself and there was nothing on Google.

Sherry, I need to see you tomorrow and bring your manager and her manager too this is the governor bye thank you mommy thank you so much I know honey it's so unfair I can't believe they made you read I wonder if I wonder if they don't know the difference between nepotism and incest that's why she's like

it's not nepotism it's like lady do you even know because you know it sounds like she doesn't know what nepotism. It's like, lady, do you even know what nepotism is? Because it sounds like she doesn't know what nepotism is. No. It's really what it sounds like. I mean, especially when you then go on to say, however, we did have to fix some problems over in that place that made my daughter upset. Okay. She's like, y'all, nepotism is disgusting.

And that's why, obviously, I support abortions in the case of rape and nepotism is disgusting and that's why obviously i support abortions in the case of rape and nepotism right and they're like i also love that you can see the ring light in her eyes in that video that's my favorite when you're just like and the glasses did you keep her apology glasses that's what i call them you know it's an apology when someone who's not normally wearing glasses puts the glasses on or around their head call them. You know it's an apology when someone who's not normally wearing glasses puts the glasses on or around their head. I think it evokes that old thing like Batman when the Joker's like, you wouldn't punch a guy with glasses.

Oh my God, that's so funny. Oh, what a mess. Let me just take a break from all this work I'm doing with my glasses to put them up on the top of my head and apologize. You guys are a distraction from the real world. She definitely took more time on hair and makeup than she did on the top of my head and apologize. You guys are a distraction from the real job. She definitely took more time on hair and makeup than she did on the apology. Yeah. Oh, 100%.

Yeah, the content isn't there, but they're nailing it. The next two minutes, it's just, this is why it's so bad. You won't believe how long it takes to buy a house in South Dakota because there's no appraisers. I mean, really what I'm trying to do, she goes on and be like, I need to get more young people involved in this to give them opportunities because there shouldn't be so many obstacles to opportunity. Please don't look at my policies on education funding or things as it relates to reservations. But anyway, that's what

I believe has to go. It's like the classic white feminism story, right? Like they fucking want to adjust it for them and they think that that's helping everybody. Well, yeah. Or use that very narrow like lens to say like the version of what is being experienced now is actually an oppressive force that we're trying to counteract versus. Yeah. My daughter is ill prepared. prepared i probably raised her as such where whenever she had a problem mom would solve it without her having to learn a lesson which has created runaway momentum for this baby adult who i've raised now who now screams when they don't get their appraisers oh my god i just thought of i've had my mom help me on one thing once when i was in high school i think we had to we had to carve out the fucking what is that shit the sphin Sphinx. Oh, like one of those.

Styrofoam and shit. No, from soap. And I, yeah, so I was trying to do it right. And I was like, mom,

can you help me? And she was like, yeah. And then she started doing it and I was like, okay, let me, and she was like, no,

let me. And she finished it. I didn't want her to, she just was like, you know what? You're going to mess this up. And I worked really hard on the back. So now I'm just going to do the whole face.

And I was like, and then she's the hard part yeah and then we saved it and to this day when i look at it i'm just like i will never ask that woman for help again she just fucking snatched it out of my hands i mean it's so weird when your parents are less like let me do this thing for you and you're like but this has to do with my school and like if i fail like the opportunity yeah let me fail on my own no because i gotta show you mom still got it with an exacto knife in a bar of dial here we go so funny but i we still have it sometimes i'll see it and i'm just like this doesn't even mind but she's like i remember that when you made that and i was like i didn't make that you made that like stop telling the lie mom yeah that's funny it's funny the same the one it's

so funny you say that the one time my mom ever helped me with a school project was with a like an ancient egypt diorama i had to build wow and i was trying to make my own pyramids out of paper and my dumb ass just didn't know how to fuck with geometry properly to get it and my mom watched me struggle like for hours good and then until she was just like yo like you can't embarrass me like this we bring this shit in here like here like just cut this paper like this and then just fold it and then it'll be it'll look like a little pyramid and i'm like fuck and i remember like being so self-conscious when i brought it like i was like the teacher's gonna know my mom did this she's gonna know that my mom did the fucking

paper pyramid and no it wasn't like that but i'll never shake that feeling either yeah it's so funny right because i got an a on it and i was like so upset that i got it for me too like with you know uh asian household it's very much like sink or swim motherfucker and if you fail i hope you're ready for the shame train because it's about to make a stop at this house you better hop on uh but like at the same time also became very much like able to rely on myself because i was like you know what because i feel like every kid like when book report time would come around there was always that one kid you know like your mom fucking made that shit i've seen you you can't even color in the fucking lines that's funny and now you did a whole ass diorama out of a moving box that's like to scale no no my dad uh helped me with math

homework in sixth grade once and i still remember it because it ultimately ended with him being like your teacher's wrong about this wow that classic. This doesn't make sense to me. And my poor teacher, who was like such a hard ass, she didn't give a fuck. But she was just like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay, great. Yeah.

And you're a basketball coach, right? You're a basketball coach. Okay. Yeah. So why don't you just add up the score? Because you can only count to five, right? And do it in ones, twos, and threes. Okay.

But see, isn't that funny that we all have a story and then we all are like we very vividly remember and how it made us feel how we still feel about it and like chrissy noem's daughter is probably like well this is how it is sometimes for some people yeah well that's like because you know i grew up around a lot of kids who were the children of celebrities and they all have that similar thing which is money has solved all of their problems since they can remember. And I mean, there are some kids who, you know, were raised to be a little more self-reliant,

but many are like to the point where it's like, you move in, you're like, yo, can you set up the wifi or something? Like they don't even know how to set up a wifi account. Like to even like, you know, you call the phone company and they're like, huh? And I'm like, fuck bro. Did your mom always do this? She's like, they'll be like, yeah,, you call the phone company. And they're like, huh? And I'm like, fuck, bro. Did your mom always do this?

Like, they'll be like, yeah, my mom got it covered. We're still on the parent plan. Come on now. Yeah. It's wild. Yeah. All right. Let's talk about the Pandora Papers, because it is slightly related in the sense that the

U.S. is one of the key tax havens for a lot of this activity, in particular, the state of South Dakota. So she is working overtime, making sure that, you know, they can get some business from South Dakota in particular, sheltering billions of dollars in wealth linked to people who have been accused of serious financial crimes, is a quote from the reporting on the Pandora Papers. But it's basically another leak like the Panama Papers, except even bigger. There's more data in this leak than the Panama Papers. The journalists of the world are still kind of sifting through it because it's massive. But basically hundreds of world leaders, politicians, celebrities, religious leaders have been using offshore accounts to shield assets collectively worth trillions of dollars. I really liked Oxfam's statement on this because it's just like, I feel like the way it's being reported for the most part is just like lifestyles of the rich and famous where like they got caught doing a bad thing. And it's like, uh-uh, uh-uh.

Yeah, yeah. Naughty billionaires. But Oxfam's statement was, this is where our missing hospitals are. This is where the pay packets sit of all the extra teachers and firefighters and public servants we need. Whenever a politician or business leader claims there is, quote, no money to pay for climate change and innovation for more and better jobs for a fair post-COVID recovery for more overseas aid, they know where to look. Yeah. Yeah. They're

just hiding all this money and all sorts of illegal ways that I don't fully understand. I'm not the person to explain it to you, but it's fucked. The whole system is fucked and it's so complex and legalistic that it it gives people that response of like fuck i don't even know where to start to like try and understand this shit sure nothing makes you feel more powerless in how the system is set up than when you when these types of stories are exposed yeah right and then it's like oh what happened with the panama papers oh one of the journalists was like assassinated that's what came of it and then it's like, Oh, what happened with the Panama papers? Oh, one of the journalists was like assassinated. That's what came of it. And then you're like,

so what's with that? What, what, I mean, that's what that'll put. It puts Biden in an, in an interesting place because this shows that the U S is the worst of the offenders,

which is why. Yeah. And it's like, so you can clean this shit up. Cause you're, you had all this energy for, you know, people not paying their fair share. This looks like a real good example of some shit you could clean this shit up because you're you had all this energy for, you know, people not paying their fair share.

This looks like a real good example of some shit you could clean up. But will that happen? Oh, God. I mean, it's it's it's hard to stay optimistic when you look at how many people just even in Congress are like, yeah, yeah, the earth can burn because my corporate benefactors told me that's my take today. Yeah. You think Biden is looking forward to dying? I think he thinks he did. I think we contain multitudes and, you know, there's probably not a conscious part of his brain that like wakes up and is like, I wish I was dead.

But I bet there are like a whole bunch of parts of his brain that are like, God damn it. Can we just get this over with? Yeah. Come on. Take me away, Lord. What did you say, Joe? Nothing, Jill. Nothing. Nothing.

This is just one of those stories that, and I think we talked about this before, where it's like, this is why it's important to just focus on community, your community, and improving your community, because the fucking, the sense of like, helping as an individual in the global spectrum of things. It's like, you're not.

These people are so corrupt. And it's so much bigger than we can even wrap our fucking heads around. It's like, just fucking focus on your family and your community. And you will fucking get through this life, you know? Yeah. I do love the idea that like American exceptionalism. We're like yeah they must be hiding their money in like offshore accounts and it's like yeah south dakota if

that's what you consider sioux falls south dakota is uh that ain't one of the cayman islands that offshore bro one of the politicians the head of state for the czech republic who is uh has an election coming up made the statement that he knew this was going to happen just to swing his election which is like amazingly self-centered that he thinks that this thing with like global implications

was all designed to swing the Czech election but his statement on it was I never did anything illegal or wrong which half of that is true the illegality is completely independent of the wrongdoing and that's sort of the problem the legal system is set up in a horribly corrupt way i do want to like kind of talk about the other side of that coin though because like so that story is about

like really boring shit that's like hard to wrap your mind around where that people are using to do illegal shit and hoard money and deprive people of money. But there's a great news story about the world's oldest rainforest being handed back to its indigenous owners. It's in Queensland, Australia, at a ceremony last Wednesday. The Eastern Kuku Yalanji people, I'm fucking that up, I'm sure, took formal ownership of the land. And it's like just digging into it a little bit. It was like a decades long process with the federal government. Like, you know, they did something to protect the land back in 1989. But then like to actually give it back to the people took like 33 years of negotiations and like bureaucratic, just sort of legwork. And I just feel like it's the sort of thing that it's hard to imagine like someone

reporting on this or like this story going viral in america since it's like a victory for people who we're not immediately familiar with and that's like done by bureaucrats basically but our world our culture is just so like anti-bureaucrat like from like books that we read in high school that were like 1984 and you know brave new world and like those sort of post apocalyptic books that are like wellian yeah that are just like or kafka like everything is just like being a nameless bureaucrat is like hell but it's like well you can also like just work and grind on behalf of like really good cause and i don't know that i feel like there's not a single place in our culture where like that is glorified other than like the occasional good news story no you don't want to get too much momentum of uh you know

colonizers giving shit back. Right. That's a dangerous game for a lot of governments. They're like, oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What'd they do? No, no, no. That's a one-off. I know.

I was going to ask, do you guys think that this is going to happen more frequently or just every, whatever, 20, 50 years or some shit? Like. I don't know. I mean, I think the difference is the one benefit is people are so interested in like these kinds of power dynamics. I don't know if it's it's definitely not like a tipping point, but more and more people understand like what is right and wrong or, you know, how oppression works or how like, you know, even being very underhanded with like bureaucratic paperwork to not, you know, give land back. I don't know. I just see just increased awareness. And I, I, deep down, I hope with increased awareness comes some kind of tangible change, but it definitely takes time. And I think to your point, that's why it's good to focus on things like locally, because you have a lot more, you, when you know your

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Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and we're back and a new york times columnist was pointing out that a lot of the sort of news leaks a lot of the wall street journals reporting with these like facebook leaks from behind the scenes of facebook is being interpreted as like facebook is this like massive powerful company that's unstoppable and like the thing we need to do is break it apart and the the columnist is like yeah that's we definitely need to like break it apart but also like what we're seeing is kind of more dangerous than them being this massive like unstoppable juggernaut it's actually like a company that is in trouble and that like recognizes its weakness and like is acting from a place of desperation like a lot a lot of the leaked reports are about them being like yeah no

like just the shit that we know like about, about Facebook, that, like, it's for old people and, like, young people aren't really fucking with it. And it's becoming toxic for, like, younger people. Yeah. Like, teen girls and things like that. And they don't give a fuck. They're looking at it like, yeah, yeah, that's happening. But what the fuck do you want me to do, man? This engagement, though.

But they, like, do recognize it. Like, that's being brought up in meetings. It's like, okay, there's all this shit that like kids hate about us we're toxic we have like these things that go viral that are like really bad for people you know we've helped spread genocides in other countries like these are these are bad stories that are like hurting our ability to like draw young people but then everything like to a cellular level like everything that they do is all about generating engagement. And it's just they can doing this push to change the state of the algorithm to be like more positive. What they actually did was like changed it to increase engagement. And that ended up just meaning that they increased the like posts that made people angry. Yeah. The this whistleblower, Francis Haugen, who is the person who shared all those documents with the Wall

Street Journal, they were on 60 Minutes. And I'll just play this clip of her describing, just very bluntly, how shit was working at Facebook. And then you really understand, it's like, oh, they don't give a fuck, no matter what the cost. Haugen told us the root of Facebook's problem is in a change that it made in 2018 to its algorithms, the programming that decides what you see on your Facebook news feed. So, you know, you have your phone.

You might see only 100 pieces of content if you sit and scroll off for, you know, five minutes. But Facebook has thousands of options it could show you. thousands of options it could show you. The algorithm picks from those options based on the kind of content you've engaged with the most in the past. And one of the consequences of how Facebook is picking out that content today is it is optimizing for content that gets engagement or reaction. But its own research is showing that content that is hateful, that is divisive, that is polarizing, it's easier to inspire people to anger than it is to other emotions. Misinformation, angry content is enticing to people and keeps them on the platform.

Yes. Facebook has realized that if they change the algorithm to be safer people will spend less time on the site they'll click on less ads they'll make less money yeah and it's just like this woman is just so fucking steely with her delivery on it and you're like and you just look at all of the things that we're seeing being compounded by the way facebook gives people information and you're're like, they just, yeah. Well,

you saw that the reason she decided to fucking whistle, blow the fuck out of this shit is because she lost her friend to conspiracy theories online. Oof. I mean, that's so fucking sad. And it's also that thing of like, I also hate that people need to have like lose something in order to feel like

they need to do something good, you know, like know like that you know double-edged sword there but i am glad she's doing it uh and did it yeah but it's one of those things where it's like fucking hell man this shit is like so deep and dark and worse than i think we all can even wrap our heads around and i think i think everybody knows someone that's just gone down the rabbit hole and it's like, hey, see you later. And you're like, you can't believe what has occurred. But then you realize. But you also there was like you can there are people you can watch like, oh, yeah, the posts were getting like they were sort of gaining speed the last couple of years in the way they would post on Instagram or Facebook. And yeah, it's it's it's like it's such a pervasive issue that, again, like what are they going to legislate finally or what do they

do? Just let this thing thrash its way into total chaos on the way down. And YouTube is also getting rid of the supposed vaccine misinformation, too, right? They're taking shit down. And yeah, they are. But who knows what that even means yeah yeah well they said like of like the 12 biggest offenders i know like a few days after that announcement like two of them were still up but i think it seems like on some level they they want to do something about it but it's hard for me to have a to think that they're having a reckoning with like well i guess this just means we're gonna have to make less money, folks. Right. That's the one thing. Is that actually being brought up in seriousness? I doubt it.

No, no. That's never allowed. Could you imagine a clip of that in a tape of a board meeting? I mean, the alternative is we have to do the right thing and just look at more engagement and begin to tell our ad partners that. But it's sad, too, because sometimes when I talk to my friends about things that they say yes to or things that they're wanting to say yes to in the industry, I will straight up be like, how much money do you need? Like, what are you really getting out of this project or this thing that you're doing? And sometimes people like just hearing that fucks with their head. And it's really interesting that it's like, it's no wonder it's gotten to this point, if you can't even like your individual like your friends people in your life have a problem with that

concept it's like yeah no fucking wonder everybody's so fucking corrupt because like money is truly fucking with people's heads and and uh yeah fucking i don't know yeah and it's like it's like the same thing with you know what you're being what's being reflected back to you from society is get yours because there's not a lot out there so you better get yours because you don't want to be one of these other motherfuckers that don't got it and until i think we're there's some kind of redistribution of values where people are like nah like it's not we have to get off the get yours mindset and it's like get ours type shit. Like for everybody to be able to say that there is enough that we're not dealing with such finite things, that there is a way to support people.

And I think many people have a rigid idea of like, well, if that happens, that means I'll never go on vacations or both. Like, well, yeah, that's fine. You know, you're, you're a normal working person person, like and everyone should have the flexibility to do that. But I think there's just a really good messaging machine on the other side, which is having people fear for what it means to create more equity for people, which is like that means they're going to take your shit when really we're trying to come for the people from the Pandora paper. Right, exactly. Exactly. It's also interesting when I think about how like all these news stories are connected, not connected, right? Because it's like I think about how like thank God those indigenous people got their land back. And then you think about like influencers online.

Now they're kind of exploiting the like the original traditions, like holistic traditions that indigenous people created. traditions that indigenous people created and you know like their ancestors took their land and now these influencers are exploiting these indigenous traditions as like their fucking cool ass thing that they're selling online and they're making money off of it they're profiting and i don't know it's just like this weird cycle that like as we went through these stories i'm like i saw the cycle in my head and i'm like this is so weird how it's all connected and it's not connected and how everything just comes back to money. Well, yeah. And just like the phases of like being colonized, the land will go first and then the people and then the culture. And it's like, yeah, we'll just get as much as we can out of this thing. This column points out that you shouldn't be any less worried about Facebook because they're kind of in a desperate place because, you know, history has shown that companies like MySpace, they specifically mentioned like on the way down, they do a lot of damage.

They, you know, sell user data to advertising firms. They fuck with your online information security right and a good another good example of like how facebook you know the sort of bind that they put themselves in is like they so there are there's a problem on instagram with people being sold products that are unhealthy that like promote eating disorders and the way that they tried to like tried in quotes to combat that is just by banning like a couple obvious hashtags like right they're like well that no more and then obviously the companies just create new hashtags. Right. I'm like. Oh, so Finspo is gone? Okay. Yeah. Okay.

How about hashtag snatched up? You know? Yeah. Let's start using like. Yeah. Yeah. And I think that's what's that's always their problem is they it's they're just plugging these holes for another leak to just pop up on the other place because they're not just

removing the boat from the body of water to fix it. It's like, no, no no i think we can we can keep just going if we're just doing it like in this ad hoc way and it's yeah yeah because i just think like you said with myspace going down remember what tom tom sold it to fox right yeah tom sold it no tom sold it to uh or whatever company first yeah yeah intermix which sold it to fox right so then what happens if nark suckerberg decides to cash out on facebook that's when i think it would go truly in another direction because someone goes yo if i can just get my fucking hands on facebook like i'll turn this shit all the way up yeah and he'll be like well i already have my islands so right yeah yeah bye-bye all right we do have to get to the Diana musical.

Yes, that's very important. Yeah, what a horrible news day. Yes. Jesus. I'm glad I came on for this one, guys. What a laugh ride I've been. Bye. You're going to like this one, though, because this is so bad, it's good.

Okay. So there's a lot of Diana content content a lot of diana tent coming out these days there's the crown uh the upcoming movie spencer where diana's played by kristen stewart and there's yet another fictionalized telling of the life of princess diana that just hit netflix uh it is a lavish broadway musical recounting like her life through cringy pop rock songs and elaborate dance numbers. Yeah, I remember we first talked about it like when this came on the radar and we're like, oh, boy, this sounds like a mistake. But we're blessed because these people actually recorded themselves performing this last summer and it's on Netflix now. Recorded themselves performing this last summer.

And it's on Netflix now. And what a sight for sore eyes. If that means a bad thing. I wasn't aware of this whole thing until I think yesterday. There's a clip going around of two friends watching it. And they're trying to figure out how the woman, the woman playing Diana. She's singing to whoever the fuck. And then steps into a stand-up dress a dress that's standing and so there's an extra in the dress and that person steps out and she

like walks around steps in it's like shot perfectly so you can't tell but they're dissecting it because they're like this makes no sense she's like not moving she's just sitting there trying to sing because she stepped into the dress that's the only thing i know about this at all like a paper doll type thing? Kind of like a paper doll. Yeah, it's very weird. It's like going viral. That was the only thing I know about this. It looks kooky. It looks kooky.

That might be the best thing because what you're saying sounds like a good bit of stage direction that people are like, how'd they fucking pull that off? Because the musical itself? Yeah, it's getting just killed and in reviews based on like some of the lyrics at one point prince charles sings how about for a start don't act like a tart diana what yeah which she probably said to her right that's not yeah might not have rhymed but when prince william is born he sings darling

i'm holding our son so let me say jolly well done it's just really like take these writers to creative prison what are you doing it sounds like katie perry wrote it there's a scene right early on where she's just like entering like the phase of courting Prince Charles. And like there's like this paparazzi scene, this paparazzi dance number. Like they're all dressed like newsies and stuff. Oh, my God. And it's just like, oh, my God. Like, you know, the whole sort of undertone, like, you know, the thrust of it is sort of like these people are bad, but also like y'all are ingesting it.

So who's really bad kind of a vibe. Oh, my God. And there's one lyric where they're saying in a chorus, they say better than a Guinness, better than a wank. We take the pictures and it's money in the bank. Hey, oh, my God. Really better than beer or jerking off. That's part of the. And then you're like, this is this has gone completely off the rails.

I mean, it is showing that they're sickos. So when so when she they when she dies are they like tap dancing on her like how does that work they're just like taking her lifeless body and like posing it to do a dance number no i didn't even get that far because like once i was seeing this i was like this is so bad you know it's just like i don't know how you do a musical treatment of something that's like everyone else is like this is actually like pretty tragic if you really look at it closely and a lot of something that's like everyone else is like this is actually like pretty tragic if you really look at it closely and a lot of people only saw like the glitzy parts

without understanding how tortured these people were do you ever like turn something off in the middle of it or at the beginning of it just to like make a point because they're like i should finish this for work but i'm going to turn this off to send a message to these streaming numbers sometimes i'll rage quit like performative rage quit you know but sometimes i just ran out of time so you're saying you were gonna finish it honestly it's so bad the dancing it looks like the kind of shit like it looks like if a flash mob broke out on a cruise ship. And you're like, none of these motherfuckers got talent. Like a cruise ship on a cruise ship during a storm.

Yeah, during like a COVID, like you're on a COVID boat. And they decided, hey, let's do a flash mob musical real quick for these stranded passengers. And you have a fever. Yeah. The choreography. You know, as someone who just survived COVID, I don't find that comment funny at all, Miles. I dare you to apologize. I don't mean to make it that vivid,

but I hope the point was a complaint. You really took me there, you know? Yeah, it's getting... Some of the reviews are pretty good. They said Chicago Tribune said that the R in streaming is optional. The Evening Standard said it's like being bludgeoned over the head by a commemorative crockery set. That's funny. That's pretty good.

I like that. And at one point they rhymed Camilla with the Thrilla in Manila. So anytime you feel bad about your own freestyling you know you can always remember that somebody actually wrote that shit down oh like yeah when it comes to sex i'm similar to the thriller in camilla and he's called me biggie the caterpillar okay i'm just thinking of that rhyme rest in peace big and diana you jackass and diana and r.i.p. And Diana, you jackass. And Diana, and Diana, and R.I.P. But, yeah, I don't know if you could ever do something that is serious and add the level of camp that a musical brings

and then it completely not have any meaning anymore. Yeah. There's a musical number sung by the queen in which she's sandwiched by two beds, one in which Diana is having an affair with James Hewitt and the other where Charles is fucking Camilla. Oh, my God. It's just... I'm just looking at screen caps.

I've not watched this. But their strategy is apparently to let people see this and then they will be like, I've got to see it in person because it doesn't make sense. The ego. Right. The only Broadway musicals that they've released on a streaming network are ones that a lot of people have seen and they've already succeeded. This is the first time that they were like, let's put this out.

Usually you secure your streaming bag after your broadway bag if you're a broadway production you'd imagine uh you'd want to do it in that sequence but shout out to netflix i don't know how i was just thinking like how this whole thing the whole time i kept watching like i want to feel like you can make a musical about anything and then it works but it's like the way they just focus on all these very like just superficial moments and if there is works but it's like the way they just focus on all these very like just superficial moments and if there is something serious it's like a throwaway line like you know in a lyric you're like that's not honoring them it's like doing like a harriet tubman musical but it's like you map it over like starlight express because you just focus on the railroad

part you know what i mean like you're like come on don't do that just don't even bother like it's not you don't have to go there you don't have to go there you can tell you do maybe with theatrically but not with the song i mean honestly yeah you're like i don't know about this one but that's what it's at times that's what i kind of felt with this when i'm like i just feels like it's so weird i do feel like i kind of have to watch this I'm like, I just feel like it deserves that. It's so weird. I do feel like I kind of have to watch this in person now. I think I'm going to plan a trip. Jack, you are a better dancer than

the guy playing Charles. You said that like I'm not a great dancer. I know, but I'm saying, no, because this guy, they say he's good. And I've seen you pop and lock. I want to see Jack pop and lock. Oh, you should see him. I'm going to come swimming and watch you pop and lock. We call to see Jack pop and lock. Oh, you should see him. I'm going to come swimming and watch you pop and lock.

We call him Boogaloo Doo. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah. That's his busking name. Wow. But yeah, there's a scene where he's trying to send a wave through his arms and shit. And it looks like he broke both his arms because they're so rigid. And he's just like.

Damn. It's offensive to people who danced that's funny i need to watch squid game i like i'm enjoying watching squid game and yet i think i'm gonna have to watch this before i watch any more squid game just ghost it you know yeah yeah watch it with your children just to feel good time yeah when they're saying stuff like better than a Guinness, better than a wank. Yeah. And your kids are like, what are those? You're like, I don't know why. We're not going to ask any questions. We'll be like, oh, this is mesmerizing.

I'm just a dumb kid. Like that. They do find the one like word that I don't want them to listen to and be like, what does that mean? Did he say gun? No, he said gum gum yeah there you go blow your head off with this gum it's really good gum you think this um fucking megan markle shit like got everybody all excited to exploit the royal family again is that what's going on here i think the crown did it the mega markle shit did it but yeah the crown i think is largely people

are obsessed with that show right it's just one of the emmys and stuff yeah and i feel like they left like the diana part of the crown is not like as the strongest part of the show i feel like and so people are like hungry for some for the diana stuff yeah it also feels like so long ago that people can exploit it again right yeah yeah which is funny because the i think the director of this also he like won a an award for directing a 9-11 broadway oh my god are you serious yeah wait really yeah, really? Yeah. No wonder. No wonder you think this is fun. I was reading the RogerEbert.com review of this because I'm like, what is RogerEbert.com,

I've got to say. It gave that shit one and a half stars. And then they said, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's being in the creative hands of Christopher Ashley, director of the stage production and this film's performance. Ashley is also a Tony Award winner for his staging of the September 11th musical, Come From Away. So I didn't know that. Yeah, they won a Tony for the people who wrote the lyrics won a Tony for Memphis, which I was not familiar with.

But, oh, the 9-11 thing is about people who are stranded in Newfoundland because of all the flights being canceled because of 9-11. So it wasn't like... So 9-11... I'm dying on the building. I'm going to jump off. I know. I love you, honey. If I never speak to you again, hold on.

I must insert my credit card for two more minutes. And you're like, this is morbid. That was actually really pretty uh where can people uh find you and follow you you can find me at the north bar in chicago this saturday october 9th if you guys are in chicago or in the areas please come out and see me come out fun shows um i'll probably be sitting because i'm still recovering from fucking covid doing anything exhausts me. So that's where my lack of energy came today. But you know what it is? What it is, y'all. Otherwise, I'm at Marcella Comedy on all social media platforms.

I have my album, The Woke Bully, that is still so fucking funny. So good. The Scroll Down with Nicole Thurman is a podcast where we do breakdowns of the week. Not like this. We don't do any boring news stories. So if you love the news, don't listen to it. If you love to hear us shitting on pop culture, we do that.

And do it very well. Thank you. And is there a tweet or some other work of social media you've been enjoying? Oh my God. Oh, some other social media work. That's an interesting one. There is a young woman, Shefawn Taylor.

She says, you make one valid point to your homegirl and it's just a screenshot of her friend going who side you on and i found that so funny because it's so true when you do that with your homegirls or just like make a point that has nothing to do with emily not nothing to do with anything but it's not you're just trying to like speak logically you know diplomatically and they're just like, bitch, oh, now you his friend now? Right. Oh, okay. Okay, yeah.

Okay, okay. Who's side are you on? I'm like, I don't know, I'm reasonable? Yeah. I don't know, you're kind of being a bitch right now? Did you ever think about that? Okay, oh. I needed you to be my homegirl who would be unreasonable with me,

no questions asked. Oh, yeah, my bad. Jack, where can people find you? Oh, my God, thank you so much for asking. We usually do miles first. reasonable with me no questions asked oh yeah my bad jack where can people find you oh my god thank you so much for asking we usually do miles first just this is this is go yeah yeah uh i'm jack underscore o'brien on twitter some tweets that i've been enjoying let's see village of the damned tweeted girlfriend i'm seeing someone behind your back. Me believes in ghosts. Is it my grandpa? Dylan.

Dylan tweeted parentheses guy who caused it. Hey, I'm staying out of this. Yep. And. We have multiple. I didn't even know you could do multiple. I know.

I'm just. We're out here having multiples on air. Good for you. And Veda, who know tweeted tweeted if she's your girl then why does her leitmotif appear in part of my battle theme which I enjoyed Miles you're a fucking dork Jack oh wait I just remembered

a couple more dates I'm in Fort Collins Colorado October 22nd 23rd I know that you have a lot of listeners in Colorado so come see me at the comedy on Fort or Fort some shit like that. I don't know. We owe them a visit, too. We owe y'all a visit out there, Colorado Zeitgang. We do.

Miles, where can people find you? Thank you so much, Marcella. Thank you for having me. You can find me at Miles and Gray on Twitter and Instagram, and also my other show, 420 Day Fiance, with Sophia Alexander. We're just getting high, talking about 90 Day Fiance, the Lord's work. A tweet I like is from at Alex Hawley,

who tweeted, library patron of the week. The fellow who came in wandered around for a good while, then asked pleasantly, what is this place? Oh my gosh. We talked about it last week,

like how just unthinkable libraries would be like if, if they hadn't already existed like in our modern world if someone was like all right i'm gonna make a like place that has all the books and like for free people would be like what the fuck dude they'd say it's critical race theory or some shit right you know what i mean we like oh like four of us in the family used to work at a library but my mom was reminding me of this story where, um, there were people steal books from the library.

Sure. And I guess one of the ladies that worked there was like, we should be happy that they want to steal books. And I was like, that's the cutest thing I've ever heard. Oh, no, they want to read though.

Well, I guess that's true. They're like, no, they're just, they're just rolling joints out of the blank notes in the back of those Bibles they're stealing. Well, guys, thanks for joining me here on the Daily Zeitgeist. Hey.

Where can people find the Daily Zeitgeist, Marcel? I don't fucking know. You can find the Daily Zeitgeist on, where is it now? You don't know either. Miles, where can people find the Daily Zeitgeist? Fuck, yo. He normally does this shit. At Daily Zeitgeist on Twitter.

At the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. Facebook fan page. Website. DailyZeitgeist you normally does this shit uh at daily zeitgeist on twitter at the daily zeitgeist on instagram uh facebook fan page that website dailyzeitgeist.com we post our episodes in our footnotes footnotes footnotes and then uh jack asked me what we're riding out on hey miles what song are we riding out on today hey we're gonna ride out on uh this track south by west from unglued it's a bit of drum and bass, you know, because Diana got me in that UK massive mood. And this is a track I've been blasting just on my bicycle. I'm the drum and bass bike lord.

And it's just got a great like sort of jazz sample, but flips it into a nice drum and bass track. I feel like I'm watching an old like Infinity car commercial from the 90s when like that used to be the theme of all commercials so check this out it's easy listening and it goes south by west unglued all right well the daily zeitgeist is a production of iheart radio for more podcasts from iheart radio visit the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you listen to your favorite shows that's going

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