The Daily Zeitgeist - Facebook Is Trash Part 6,997; XO Fake Tour Life 11.16.18

Episode Date: November 16, 2018

In episode 276, Jack and Miles are joined by Yo Is This Racist? podcast host Andrew Ti to discuss a fake band who booked a European tour, Michael Avenatti's questionable arrest, Melania's dismissed of Mira Ricardel from the White House, votes in Florida being disqualified over mismatched signatures, Facebook leaders blatant denial of Russia's influence on their site, the Sour Patch Kids cereal, Australia's existential crisis over onion placement on their sausages, and more! FOOTNOTES: 1. L.A. Band Threatin Faked a Fanbase To Land a European Tour No One Attended2. Avenatti Arrest Draws in Stormy Daniels and Jacob Wohl3. Mira Ricardel, Aide Who Crossed Melania Trump, Is Removed From Her White House Role4. VOTE-BY-MAIL BALLOTS CAST IN FLORIDA5. In Florida Recount, Sloppy Signatures Placed Thousands of Ballots in Limbo6. Russian Influence Reached 126 Million Through Facebook Alone7. Delay, Deny and Deflect: How Facebook’s Leaders Fought Through Crisis8. Sour Patch Kids Cereal Is Real. Here's How to Get It9. The iconic Bunnings sausage sizzle is undergoing a change for safety reasons! 10. Australians Declare Existential Crisis Over Onion Placement11. WATCH: Mack Browne & The Brothers - Bumpy's Lament Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hello, the Internet, and welcome to Season 57, Episode 5 of Two Daily Zeitgeist, the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness using the headlines, box office reports, TV ratings, and what's trending on Google and social medias. It's Friday, November 16, 2018. My name's Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. I got two tickets to Jack O'Brien. Won't you listen to the daily zeitgeist? All right.

Christy Gamaguchi main at crispy meme donut. And I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. If you think I'm miles gray and you want O'Brien, come on. I can't let me know. I had to respect that part. I love that we're doing the instrumental solos. You have to.

I mean, for that song, I think I remember that part more than anything, actually. But that is from Joe Durbeck at Joe Durbeck. So shout out to you, Joe. And just so listeners know who are listening to the final version of this episode, that instrumental solo went on for two and a half minutes before we edited it. It did. So we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by just one of the funniest dudes working anywhere. Oh, no.

And he just celebrated. One of the funniest dudes working at Home Depot. Yeah. He just celebrated his millennial episode of his groundbreaking podcast, Yo, Is This Racist? We got Andrew T. What up? I'm back. All right.

He back. Here we go. Stacks on deck. Patrona. Nice. We can pop bottles all night. Baby, you can have whatever T likes. I said you can have whatever T likes.

Hey. I wanted to do the double because I fucked it up so many times. T.I. for T.I. Yeah. Nice. That's as good as it is ever going to get. I fucked it up so many times. TI for TI. Yeah. Nice. That's my... That's as good as it is ever going to get. I get it.

Thanks, Joe. I understand that. That's all I want from a joke is... I get that. I get that, man. I get that's all I want. Oh, that makes sense. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Irony. TI, TI. Andrew. Congratulations. Thank you. 1,000 episodes of one of my favorite podcasts. Thank you so much.

You've been doing it forever. It's true. Far too long. And they're still good. Thanks. You're still out here. Yeah. Waking the world up.

What's next, man? The movie? Yo, Is This Racist? The kids' merchandise? Oh, Yo, Is This Racist Jr. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's tight. Yeah, just got... Actually, I just...

One of my favorite things from a recent episode was someone called in and was like, I want to... My son's teacher wants him to dress up as an Indian for Thanksgiving and I don't want to do this. How do I communicate to this teacher without having my like seven year old just call the

teacher racist? Right. And of course, my only advice is, yo, you need to train your seven year old to just call your teacher racist. What's wrong with that? Yeah. First of all, teacher is Native American. So get your mind right.

It was a lot of a lot of shit where I was like, I just disagree with the premise of this question so thoroughly. You need to train your kids to yell at their racist teacher. As if that's not an option. Why don't my child calling out racism? Yeah, that's the best option. Just training in front of that, that's racist meme. Yes, exactly.

That's racist. Is that from Wonder Shows? I think so. I think so, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the little white kid. Is that from Wonder Shows? I think so. I think so, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the black kid in the yellow polo? Yeah, yeah. Wonder Shows has been coming up a couple times in the past week.

That show was bonkers. What a great show. It was really good. Andrew, we're going to get to know you a little bit better. No doubt. We're going to take our listeners through what we're talking about today. We're talking about Threaten, the heavy metal fake musician who created fake fans

and then booked a real tour. Oh. We'll see how that went. We're going to talk about Michael Avenatti. I think Lacey Mosley is his manager. I know, exactly. We're going to talk Michael Avenatti and his recent arrest

and just suspicious stuff going on around that and why it's apparently don't piss off Melania Trump because she does not fuck around. She is petty? Yeah, she's petty and she will back up. We're going to talk about ballots being denied based on signature mismatches. Ballots being denied based on signature mismatches. We're going to talk about Facebook's latest, the latest revelations around Facebook and how they've responded to their role in the 2016 election. It's not good, you guys, once again.

There's no stories involved with Facebook. They're like, finally, the feel-good Facebook story we've all been waiting for. We're going to talk about Fox News, riding with Jim Acosta in CNN's complaint against the White House. We're going to talk about Sour Patch Kids cereal. That is a real thing. And then we're finally, you know, people have been asking us to check in with Australia on some, like, Australian news because there's a lot of important things happening down there. Down under. Nailed it. And we're going to just check in with a story that we think is too important not to cover.

Yeah, for sure. Even though it's a little local, it's also, you know, the impact will be felt years from now. At the very least, it will touch someone in some kind of way. It's about humanity. That's the important thing. Andrew. Yeah, what? Before we get to any of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I want to ask you, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are or where you are in your life? This is a good one. This is multiple ones done in quick succession. Bee sting care. How many bee stings is dangerous? Oh, no. bee sting care uh how many bee stings is dangerous oh no and um i guess uh well the the final one is related from the second search is a tetanus shot oh wow um so here's what had happened to me uh i a couple weeks ago had like this shit out of a beehive well basically yeah i was like um

like on my bullshit and i had like an evening free and i've been trying to get into camping lately so i was like i'm just gonna go drive up the angelus crest and do like a solo camping trip and it was great it was really fun i just made a fire made a beef rib in the fire and then just got stoned and looked at the moon and went to sleep and then the next morning i was very cracked out and just like gathering some kindling to get the fire restarted and homeboy must have kicked a beehive or something oh wow yeah some shit up so i was like you can still see i got a little bit on the back of my hand right now i got like seven bee stings on my hand a bunch in my hair oh and it was just some like on some my girl shit it was i was about to

say yeah when you asked how many is too much i'm like macaulay culkin might know yeah it was too much yeah so i was like covered in bees running like a maniac but also it was like i was by myself on like a wednesday in like the national you know angeles national forest or whatever yeah you can't really complain or do anything about it yeah you probably just sat down by yourself you're like ah yeah fuck yeah i had to i had to i got the first aid kit i tweezed a bunch of stingers on myself prepared though yeah i'm not i'm an idiot don't get me wrong i am an idiot but i'm not the biggest idiot yeah yeah yeah yeah so i had i just pulled that shit out and then i was like well i mean it's gonna take me like half an hour to pack all this stuff up anyway so i might as well still make coffee i might as well still make my breakfast so i was just like all swollen kind of vaguely bleeding and oh man i would have been i'm the type of

person if that happened i would have been like fuck all this left all the shit there and just walked home that's almost an option but it just it was it was gonna take so long to get home anyway that i was like, I might as well. Not so, so long, but like 35 minutes or something. Right. Like two mile trek or a mile and a half trek. Well, I didn't walk. It was a car camp situation.

Oh, okay. So yeah, it was- Oh, and you were just solo and no one there to- Yeah, not a soul around. I don't know. Anyway, that's a very me situation. And then you fell on the tweezers and they went into your skin? Oh, no.

So yeah, if you get enough bee stings, one of the things that they're like, you really should get a tetanus shot. Oh, really? Tetanus booster. Yeah. Interesting. And I put it off for a while. And then I talked to my sister, who was a physician.

She was like, you would have tetanus already if you were going to have it. So you're probably fine. Is tetanus the one that they shoot into your stomach? No, that's rabies. Yes. Yeah, yeah. Tetanus is a normal. Yeah, rabies is pretty ill.

It's always scared the shit out of you. Do y'all get weird when you see water too? Or is that just me? When you see water? Yeah, like I want to avoid water at all costs. Oh, right. Yeah, and your mouth is foaming. That's sad.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought it was just bad dental care. All those diseases that have a subconscious psychological component. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Yeah. It's fucking terrifying. What's the deal with water and rabies exactly?

I think it's just it attacks your brain, takes over your brain. And it's just like water bad. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not totally sure why. Well, we're not scientists. And this is a second rate podcast. So we'll let Twitter tell me.

But this is one of those things where what you did, going camping by yourself, just proves how much more self-sufficient of a human being you are than I am. Man, I've been trying. You're like, I'm not an idiot. Of course I had tweezers. Yeah, and a first aid kit. Always. Well, here's what I will say

is that I went camping one time with my podcast co-host, Tawny Newsome, who's been on the show before. She's a real camp person. So I got inspired and I was like, I bought all the camp shit.

So I kind of did it in one fell swoop. And then part of my brain is like, if I have any spare time, I really should start justifying the cost of all this garbage that I bought because it's like so much stuff. Yeah, that's like some people are that,

the way I am with sneakers are that way with camping gear. They're just like, they spend all their time online just looking at camping gear and shit. Like, I'm gonna start using this shit. Yeah. I mean, I've only been, since I was a kid, like three times since I got all this stuff. But now I'm like, I don't know how to do it until I pay off this tent.

Or pay off this tent mentally with value. I'm upside down on this tent, man. Yeah, I really am. But yeah, tents are real cheap these days. And they're like crazy. It's so light. My tent. Yeah, I really am. But yeah, tents are real cheap these days. And they're like crazy. It's so light. My tent's like four pounds. Right.

And it's one of those that snaps together almost. It's easy. It's super easy. You can set it up in like 30 seconds. Oh, that's amazing. Tent technology is real wild. Yeah, I used to have a pop tent. Yeah.

That's cool that some podcasts and their co-hosts go camping together. Oh, y'all should do. Just do personal. Don't look at camping together. Y'all should do a nice camping trip. Must be nice, Andrew. That's how the beginning of the Miles Gray murder story begins. Him and his friend went camping. Wait, are you the murderer? I don't know. Just tune in to find out.

Who's the murderer? Let's not test it. Let's not test it. One of us is not walking out of that wilderness. Definitely not. Jack and Miles, one of them's a murderer, one of them's a murderee. Tune in next episode and find out who's hosting.

What is overrated? Oh, man. I was going to say, I mean, this is so hack to say, but I think I'm far into the territory of live music is so overrated to me. Oh, interesting. I'm just like- Like going to a show? Yeah.

Wow. I'm too tired. What happened? I'm too sleepy. Oh, okay. I'm too sleepy. That's what happened. That's funny because super producer Nick Stumpf was telling me he went to the Young Fathers show and he just saw up in the upper areas, just saw other older people were just sleeping.

Yeah. Just like, look, man, I thought I could do it, but it's too much. Yeah, I know. That's both very specific and very uncool of me, but that's where I'm at. I'm just like. So what show did you go to that where you were like, oh, fuck it. I'm done. You know what?

I don't know. Nothing specific. Right, right. It was just like. The idea exhausted you. The idea. I was just like, I'm not. that where you were like oh fuck it i'm done you know what i don't know nothing specific right right it was just like i was just like the idea i was just like i'm not i ain't doing this i ain't doing this i could barely make it through a movie yeah oh really yeah well now that them shit the seats are so fucking comfortable i know yeah i was just i think it was eric lamper i was telling because like a city walk everything goes full one like 180 degree yeah yeah full 180 yeah full 180 flat bed shit yeah and I'm gonna sleep by the fucking second trailer oh man I called I watched Suspiria down in uh in Atlanta where I I went to the very cool how stuff works

office it was very nice thank you guys um guys but yo it's just like completely horizontal completely asleep and then Suspiria the new one is also like kind of slow right so I'm just like

I'm snoozing I'm sorry until something fucked up happens which it does I'm asleep I'm sorry guys I feel similarly

but I also just saw a clip of that Travis Scott show when he brought out, what's his name? Sheck West? Yeah. Oh, and did Mo Bamba? And the place and the stage literally exploded. Exploded.

And I was like, that looks like the best live music experience I've ever seen. I wish I was there. I'm sure I could turn myself around. If you went to a show that the whole thing was a big, you know, it was turn up city and you're the writer, then yeah, of course. What is something you think is underrated? Oh, man, here's what's underrated, and these are probably too closely linked.

Being a poser. I'm about it these days. I'm currently wearing like a vintage looking PlayStation sweatshirt that I got at a thrift store. I'm sure it's not really from whatever 94 or whatever it says it is. It does say PlayStation in Japanese. So at least you got that look. I mean, it's a lot. But I feel like the idea of, I mean, without making this too much of a generational thing,

because I know people my age and older who I'm sure are more with it, or whatever, but I feel like the idea of having a lot of intrinsic knowledge and contributing to a community is past. We're in the data access age. And so there's

no amount of music knowledge you should keep in your head that any fool couldn't look up on the internet in their phone instantly yeah so i'm like because i'm wearing this playstation sweatshirt and i yesterday when i was wearing this also uh for sure some dude came up to me he's like oh man that's dope and i was like cool yeah playstation i love it you know playstation yeah it's just one of those things where i was like i don't you, PlayStation. I love it. PlayStation. Yeah. It's just one of those things where I was like, you know what?

There's no amount of, like, I can't be stumped anymore, really. Yeah. You know, you can kind of catch yourself up in a trip to the bathroom on any topic. Right. You just seem like you have IBS, but that's all right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But whatever. I'll just come back. Give me one second.

You're like, oh, Cartesian philosophy? Oh, I got a shit. I'll be right back. No, but at a bar, it's pretty, you could just be like, oh, Cartesian philosophy? Oh, I got a shit. I'll be right back. No, but at a bar, it's pretty, you could just be like, oh, yeah, yeah, I'm going to go get a drink, whatever. I mean, I guess what I'm saying, though, is we're in peak poserdom. Peak poserdom. So you're saying that the connection between being a poser and not needing any intrinsic knowledge is just like sort of authenticity. Like being authentically anything is not important.

Correct. Got it. I'm saying it's better to be a poser. No, I'm saying it's underrated. Yeah. It's not even, it's not, I just don't think it's that bad anymore. And just like being able to change your identity whenever you want. That's a lot of freedom.

Well, because the idea of like poser, that 90s shit when you would call somebody a poser was just about like, you know, it was like a, I don't know, I feel like the next generation of someone who sold out or something. Yeah. You're not that shit. You ain't really about that. You're not a skater.

You're a poser. You just wear airwalks because everyone's wearing airwalks or whatever. And now like no brand or any kind of outward identity has any like authenticity in that sense anymore where people are like, I'm going to combine styles or anything that, at least on the visual end,

posing is not. Yeah, yeah. I think even that, I think it's like the idea of posers is very much a pre-cell phone generation thing. Totally. I think it's the the idea of changing your identity or your look or your style or your group

is much more fluid these days. At the same time, I do think there's still this fetishization of authenticity. That's why Vice was so big for so long. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because people were just like, oh, man, they're real. Those people don't give a fuck.

And it's like, no, they're just bleeding a bunch of 22-year-olds dry. Yeah, yeah. I think authenticity now isn't even about how you appear anymore. It's purely just how you present yourself and how you talk or what your values are. It's like seven minutes of enthusiasm

can make you authentic. Which is all it takes. I don't know. Anyway, Poser Magazine coming 2019. Pose Magazine. I like seven minutes of enthusiasm. That's like the name of a podcast. Maybe it should just be a segment on our show.

That's all it takes. And then we put our guest on the spot. All right, it's time for seven minutes with enthusiasm for Andrew. Go. You have seven minutes. Non-stop. It's just you. I love it.

Crash Bandicoot. X Games. The Game. Remember Street Luging? Yep, yep, yep. minutes non-stop it's just you i love it crash bandicoot x games the game remember street loosing yep yep yeah what is a myth andrew what's something people think is true you know to be false here's a myth that um i think uh it's this is coming a little late this would be probably a better it would have been a better pre-election i guess this is a pre-2020 election thing um i feel like a lot of people I talked to when I was talking about either canvassing or phone banking or whatever, their main thing was like, oh, I have social anxiety or I don't like talking to people. And the myth I want to shatter is that kind of political activism, the lowest level, has some of the least human interaction that you could possibly imagine. Tell me about it.

It is like when you're canvassing people, especially if you don't like talking to people or don't like talking to strangers, you have this thing in your head. It's like, oh, I'm going to be knocking on doors and getting into it politically with people all day long. And that's exhausting and scary to me. If you think about it, it makes sense. 99% of the doors you ring, people are like, I don't want to talk to anyone. What are you talking about? So 99% of it is standing on a porch wondering if you should ring the doorbell again. For the third time.

Right. And then you leave a flyer and peace out. Yeah, or if you're phone banking, just a lot of data entry too. Yeah, it's mostly- All right, I'll just click off that number. That's a yes, okay. These next 19 people are wrong numbers. Yeah, or like not going to answer or whatever.

Like it's just like it's honestly less social interaction than almost anything else. In a way, if you have, you know, we always sort of will stress ourselves out with our future vision of an activity being much worse. Like you think like you're going to knock literally a fucking MAGA hat is going to answer the door and swallow you whole. Yeah, motherfucker! It's not that. And even then, you'll get over it very quickly because you realize you're either going to get someone who's not interested,

someone who's totally down, and most people who disagree with you will just politely decline or just say, I'm a Republican and close the door or whatever. Or a Democrat. Or a Democrat. Assuming you're canvassing for a democratic candidate yeah no i but honestly it really is like like if i i guess what i mean is if your excuse is oh i have social anxiety yeah i get it but just think about it yeah just social anxiety anxiety is at least partially the fear of face-to-face rejection.

But I do think the stakes are much lower in the rejection. If you're going there representing an idea, it's not like you go to the door and you are forced to make small talk and chat the person up. You have a script that you're sticking to. The whole rap you do, yeah. They make it very easy and sort of social anxiety proof. Your short shirt that you're wearing or your door hanger or whatever, they know what this is.

It's also shockingly quick. I'm sure the average interaction for a canvas or door-to-door has to be less than five seconds. It works. I was reading an article about Deval Patrick and his whole political career just started one year.

It was like a year and a half out from the Massachusetts governor's election and he was not even on anyone's radar. He had no political history, but he just knew that he could win. And the way he did it was just going door to door for like a full year and just like small groups of people and just interacting with them like that shit works. Well, yeah, because most people like they'll never not most people, but many people when they're about to vote, they don't know. They typically won't interact with someone who's directly advocating for a specific candidate.

They might be like, well, I'm a Democrat, so I'll i'll vote the ticket i'm a republican but like right if someone comes up to you and is like hi this person's cool and and even if you go why and they explain a few things that has a tremendous effect for people yeah i mean yeah when uh we did i did a little door knocking in atlanta and i think there was literally just like you forget who you feel like everyone's motivated like me and it's like like, her name is Stacey Abrams. Right. Don't vote for the other guy. Vote for Stacey.

And then people are like, oh, yeah. Cool. I'm sorry. I'm getting high and I'm playing Red Dead Redemption. Oh, literally. Can I go? That literally happened. Yeah.

It was like a high school student. He was like 18. And I was just like, just remember this name. Yeah. That's all we ask. Put this in your pocket, dude. Just go back to it. Yeah, go back.

You're fine. You're cool. I mean, it goes back to the authenticity thing. It's like our world is so full of these mediated experiences. One thing you can't really mediate is like having someone, being face-to-face with someone who's like, hey, this is what I think. Just letting you know, how are you feeling about this thing? I don't know.

I got a lot of gaming. Get that gamer vote. PlayStation. Yeah, so all this conversation about authenticity, I think, ties into this first story, which I feel like represents the Zeitgeist pretty well right now. It's the story of this band Threaten. Threat and then I-N. They left the G off, but they left the G off because it's actually their front man's last name. His name is Jared Threaten.

That's a sick name. I know, super sick. Basically, he booked a European tour, a bunch of different venues. I think it was like a dozen different venues all across Europe, and did it using his wild social media presence and all his fans and Facebook likes, and it turned out he made the whole thing up, but actually booked the tour and got all these opening acts to come and perform for him, and the venues paid for the opening acts.

As part of the tour agreement? Yeah, as part of the tour. And so after the first stop on the tour, the opening acts were like, yo, this is fucking weird. This dude promised that, or actually his agent claimed that the band had sold 291 tickets in advance for the first tour, but only three people turned up. And it turns out this dude, Jared Threaten,

is not named that, by the way. He made that up as his chosen nom de plume. And he did the whole thing just, he's now claiming it was like a social media experiment. He was like, I turned social media presence into all these headlines and stuff. Okay, Kyrie Irving, flat earth, man. media experiment he was like I turned social media presence into like all these headlines and okay Kyrie Irving what's up with fake news man yeah it's just it feels like this is I don't know there's a whole resurgence of multi-level

marketing or network marketing schemes in this generation, like, and just in the world of social media. That's, like, so much of it is just, you know, late 19th century hucksterism, like, snake oil salesmanship with people just being, like, you got to get your presence out there. And, like, I'm an influencer. And it's, like, all this shit that's just, like, smoke and mirrors. Well, I think because so many things have become democratized, whether it's like SoundCloud for musicians or like our cell phones and people are suddenly like photographers, quote unquote, or like the ease of making music on computer programs. That like the one side is that it allows for many people to participate. But I also think it also creates this instant gratification thing.

It worsens the idea that like, oh, I should be fucking touring. Or like, I can do this thing because why the fuck not? Or whatever. We're missing that step where you really engage with something because you really like it and you're willing to fucking drag your belly

through the fucking mud for it. But I mean, look, this guy could just be a straight up con man too. And probably is. But I also feel like he probably thought he should on some level could be i mean the the like cojones to show up is like if you're pulling off the scam what do you think is going to happen as you step foot in the venue like how does this pay off yeah exactly maybe he was just like i'll figure that out we'll get people to come out like once once the show. Yeah.

Word of mouth is word of mouth. If you build it, they will come. Yeah. First rule of marketing, bro. Can you imagine he envisions it that he comes up, maybe there's 14 people in the venue. He starts like, he hits that first, fuck me. Jack just showed us the photo of him. It's a guy holding a shard of mirrored glass.

So dope. The reflection of an eye. Very dope. With his eyes reflected. Very dope. Troubled, dark eyes. He'll hit that first power cord and literally fucking roaches. People are just going to be like, what the fuck was that? Is that a rock show? Yeah.

And they just come in. And they're like, whoa, we love Threatened. But what you were saying about the democratization of everything, like real democracy, what we're seeing is that it's surprisingly easy to hack right like like the reason the shit like and like you know you see this in tv networks a lot where it's like oh they have like this following or this this thing got this many likes and it is like never anyone like well look when i worked at a tv network i feel like i was the one bringing this up a lot and it never went anywhere which which is like, hey, none of you guys have actually followed through on what the actual value of a quote unquote like is or like follow is.

Because it's like, you know, and you still see it. And they're kind of working out a little bit better because I think these people are starting to be more talented in general. But like when I worked at Comedy Central, we would always be like, oh, let's cast a YouTube star in this. They got four million followers or whatever. This video got this. We can do this again. And then when none of those YouTube people followed them to TV, it's like, oh, yeah, I don't know what happened here. They tweeted it.

And it's like, yeah, but those people you know, those people are, first of all, a bunch of them are fake. Second of all, like, you know, you didn't stick to your alleged core competency, which is like, is this person funny? Is this person,

does this work? Like, is this a good creative move? It's just a lazy way to be like, oh, that number makes me believe this will be good because I can't be bothered to like assess talent. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. And then there are examples like Broad City where it was just like the internet was a way, like a web series was a way to expose. And that series was somewhat popular, but it wasn't like it was the number one show on YouTube. Yeah, yeah.

It was just a way for super talented people to be like, hey, we're here to get the real out there. Here's a thing. Or like, yeah, yeah. This is we can make a thing that doesn't suck like, suck is the first step in the door. Not that that only didn't suck, but you know what I mean? Yeah, no, totally. It was just a different type of thing.

It's just this weird thing where you're like, I mean, everyone's bad at math, clearly, but just the idea that, like, we think, like, once these have been tallied as likes or SoundCloud listens or whatever, it's like they all have the same value, even though they patently do not. You know, it's so, such a problem. Hey, man, when the barriers of entry are, you know, eliminated, everybody getting it. But it's just different barriers of entry. It's just like the tabulation is a different one than it used to be, but it's still a type of, a hackable barrier to entry.

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TMZ reported that it was one of his ex-wives, and both of his ex-wives have since come forward and said, no, that's not true. And also he wasn't like that when we were were with him and now there's this weird thing bleeding through where it might be a jacob wall hoax somehow a jacob wall joint yeah and if you don't remember him the mastermind behind uh surefire intelligence where christoph waltz and numerous other stock photo models worked at right uh but that was a guy who tried to do that whack-ass smear of Robert Mueller trying to pay someone off to claim that he had sexually assaulted her.

The guy who has silenced Robert Mueller. I mean, you're not hearing a lot from him. Yeah, only that he, again, reiterated that apparently Rick Gates is now cooperating in multiple investigations, so he would like to punt his sentencing till January. That's the last thing. But anyway, yeah, so this is, it was odd because Avenani came out and was a sort of like tweeted something that was alleging that Jacob Wall had something to do with it.

He's like, when I'm totally exonerated, like Jacob Wall is going to pay for this. And then the surefire intelligence Twitter account, which is Jacob Wall's quote unquote. Sorry, Jacob Wall's mom's company let's be real she's paying the phone bill yeah uh that twitter account like retweeted uh like a tweet of the news of his arrest and it said like surefire like strikes again and i don't know if they're being stupid but like yeah i would believe that they're stupid enough to be like yep that was us but but trying to act as if i don't know it's very confusing because the second jacob wool comes into it and when you sort of look at

the history of michael avenatti and how he's basically on toe-to-toe with the president and like stormy daniels was harassed by the police like in ohio for you know being nothing essentially an exotic dancer yeah uh there's a lot going I mean, I'm willing to believe either story because we've always said on this show, Michael Avenatti could be the real article or the biggest piece of shit on earth ever. Well, you can be both. Yeah. Yeah. And it could be both.

Yeah. So personally, like the fact that even Surefire is even joking around about it or maybe they're serious or that he believes that something's going on. And just the inconsistencies and how the TMZ was reporting it, as if maybe they were fed the story to report. Because suddenly they had to backpedal and edit their reporting on it. It's murky. And did Navanati point to Jacob Wolfe? Yeah, he was just like, yo, I'm coming for your ass after this.

It's like we have on, well. He was just like, yo, I'm coming for your ass after this. It's like we have on well, not on both sides, but we have these like credibility holes on kind of many sides of many arguments and like it does feel like we've crossed the line into like now guilty parties on the

left could easily try to rope in Jacob Wall to undermine credibility. Because he's done, he's cried she-wolf of the SS so many times that like, he's, you know, his credibility's so shot, but it's like obviously there are still bad actors on all sides, and Avenatti's probably a great example

of one on more or less our side. Can't Stormy just get a new lawyer? That's what she said. She said if it turns out that this isn't a total hit job, she'll find new representation. She used to do that anyway. Yeah. I mean, when he was like a white guy, has to run, I was like, here we go. Yeah.

Showing your ass. He said that? Yeah. He was like, that's the only person who's going to bring down Trump. Anyway, Avenatti 2020. Avenatti Maserati. Vote on that ticket. All right, I'm in, actually.

Now that you say it. Now that you say it, yeah. Maserati, is it a Ghibli? you point it out. Ah, Maserati. Is it a Ghibli? So apparently, guys, just don't piss off Melania Trump because there is a woman who is known for being

this hard-as-nails, no-bullshit government operative named Myra Ricardell who was basically the second-in-command at the NSC. She was basically John Bolton's right hand. She and Melania got into sort of a petty disagreement

about seating on a plane for Melania's first big international trip when she went to Africa. And apparently Melania has all this extra security that nobody was expecting to be there, and so Myra got bumped off of Air Force One or whatever flight. Whatever they call it when the president's not on it, yeah. So Myra was not having it.

She got pissed. People have noted that this is actually a pretty standard thing that a bureaucrat or somebody from the nsc would have to fly ahead or fly separately from the main first lady or executive delegation yeah the executive delegation right and uh so it's a little weird that she like flipped out the way she did uh at the same time i can totally see somebody who's like hard as nails and no bullshit being like annoyed by Melania Trump. Yeah. No.

Really? Yeah. Like just some shit like, oh, don't you have a bullying with air quotes campaign you have to run? Exactly. And then Melania's like, I don't like her. Yeah. And so on Tuesday, the First Lady's spokeswoman, Stephanie Grisham, issued a statement to reporters that said it is the position of the office of the First Lady that she no longer, she being Myra, no longer deserves the honor of serving in this White House. It basically said she needed to be fired.

And lo and behold, a day or two later, she announced that she was leaving the white house or finding a new position yes whatever yeah well i mean cool i know at first when we talked about it yesterday we were like i wonder if it's you know that's that's her she has the power to do that or if there's something i wonder if there's something else afoot if there's you know if she has some like if she's sort of pressuring Donald Trump to do it, she may really not like this person, but then was like, if you don't do it, I'm going to do something wild, Donald. Get rid of her. Well, that's like the tangled web of leverage over Donald Trump. Yeah, you don't know who.

I feel like I was like right before the election, I was like was it must have been some point. But I was I had this like weird vision of like, you know, like like Watergate, Deep Throat style shit. We're in a parking garage and it's just like the Russian spy bumps into the Chinese spy, bumps into the Saudi spy. What the fuck are you guys all doing here? Oh, dog, we came here to threaten Donald Trump. Well, which one are you using? Because I have pee tape. It's like, no, I got another one from when he was in Riyadh. Oh, dog, we came here to threaten Donald Trump. Ah, shit. Well, which one are you using? Because I have pee tape. It's like, no, I got another one from when he was in Riyadh. Oh, okay.

It's just wild where you're like, I mean, yeah, so anyone could have anything over this motherfucker and therefore compel him to. So it's like the real UN essentially takes place in the parking garage of Trump Tower, basically. Yeah. or it takes place in the parking garage of Trump Tower, basically. Yeah. So going to the 2018 midterms,

the recount as of this recording is still up in the air. I don't think it's looking great for Abrams or Gillum at this point, but one of the issues with the votes in Florida is that there have been 4,000 votes disqualified because of mismatching signatures, which is an absurd reason to disqualify anything at this point. This actually just made me think about signatures as just being completely irrelevant at this point, like based on any, if you've ever watched a young person write anything, like they- If you've ever watched a young person write anything?

It doesn't even matter if they're like five years younger than me, but like there was a certain point at which the- Penmanship just fell off. Teachers just were like, well, you're not going to need to write anything down. Like the best writer I've ever worked with, he writes like a five-year-old i've like like it's a bit yeah uh yeah i would say i would say this there's probably i was this must

have been in college so i assume this is better now but i was like uh i took this maybe class or maybe it's just a lecture about how like you, the cadence and the speed with which you type things is as much of a signature to you as anyone. You know, like it would be like asking someone to type their name and then just measuring like the amount of time between X and Y letter. And when you graph everything out, that's relatively unique to a person. Oh, that's very cool. Yeah.

So let's use that. No, yeah. I'm saying that's a better metric than, like, signature. Yeah, or, like, if you're hunting and picking, though, it's like, damn. No, but that's what I'm saying. Yeah, then even then you know, right? If you're a hunt and pecker, you hunt and peck at, you know, about the same way with about the same relationship to X or Y keys.

Yeah, I can't let Mavis Beacon down like that. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But that's, you know. She put her fucking life on the line to teach me typing. Yeah, but she taught you a specific, there's a profile of you that exists probably somewhere. At this point, right? Yeah. Yeah, like Apple could, that's like a piece of biometrics that we don't think about.

Right, but they're like, yes, we have your exact signature. But I mean, isn't a signature good for like a contract? I mean, that level, like what's the I mean, I guess because at this point you can do it digitally and it looks like shit. When have you ever tried to like carve your name on a touchpad? I mean, I think I think that is that is one of the arguments about this case, which is just like, OK, well, if you can throw this out, like, guess what? about this case, which is just like, okay, well, if you can throw this out, guess what? We can find several hundred thousand million maybe contracts in the state of Florida. Checks, whatever, right. Yeah, any signed check or whatever that has a similar, does that similarly void those

contracts? Right, yeah. Because that's a road that they shouldn't want to go down probably. Right. I think people are, first of of all saying that more and more because of the fact that young people don't write anything down, signatures just don't work. That's why credit cards have gotten rid of signatures and started using the chips because it just like doesn't, people don't learn how to do a signature. And they've, they're specifically saying a lot of

the DQ'd votes were from young people who just don't have a steady signature. Like they don't have a signature that stays the same from day to day. And so that is why their votes are being disqualified. And when it comes to contracts, I think that that's more of a like one to one thing where you can be like, is this not your signature? Is this not you? Right. Whereas like this is trying to match,

like there's a computer somewhere trying to match signatures like in a mass bunch of different papers that is just like mass disqualifying votes because like they don't match up in some way. But that's the same ultimately as is this not you? It's just a computer saying. Right. It's not you. Yeah. It's just a computer program. And it seems like that's hard to systematize. Yeah. A congressman or former congressman. I'm trying to think of the name. Well, specifically in this one also, there was someone on Twitter posted Scott signing

legislation with three visibly different signatures. Scott? Oh, really? Rick Scott? Rick Scott. Yeah, Rick Scott signing legislation with three different, clearly different signatures. Scott? Oh, really? Rick Scott? Rick Scott, yeah. Rick Scott signing legislation with three different, like, clearly different signatures.

Have you ever had to sign your name multiple times like for a notary for something? Yes. And then they're on you and you're like, okay, it's starting to not look

the same a little bit. Can you really be careful to make sure it matches? Can you really be careful? That's so funny. Yeah, because if you have like wild contracts you get to sign

where it's like you're doing your shit like, you know, you're signing 50 documents or something. Yeah, totally. you have wild contracts you get to sign where it's like you're doing your shit, like you're signing 50 documents or something. Yeah, totally. Don't have 100 documents. Yeah, of course, man. When you're moving a billion dollars over a Palm Pilot, it's nothing. But yeah, I think that's the kind of thing where I've noticed where a notary is like they start sweating,

and you're like, come on, bro. I'm trying to sign it, okay? Maybe we need something better. Can we just use an ink thing in my fingerprint or something? I feel like this is probably possibly telling and maybe not legal, but the only times I've had something notarized, one was my friend in New York just got him, made himself a notary, so he watched me do one thing, and then I think my lawyer's a notary.

Is that right? They had a notary in the law office, something like that. So it was all people that were like, fucking whatever. Do whatever the fuck you want. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. But I mean, if signatures were good enough on their own, then you wouldn't need somebody sitting there being like, yes, I watched him make that mark on that paper.

Right, yeah. Like, that's why notaries are necessary. And I mean, this happened to a former congressman, Patrick Murphy, from Florida. In this election, he checked because he had done a mail-in ballot and it was counted as invalid. And the numbers seem somewhat, you know, the people who are reporting how many ballots are being disqualified based on this, the numbers seem like they're maybe underestimating it a little bit because like the ACLU has said that at least 20,000 ballots have been thrown out during this election because of signatures but the Florida like voting commission said it was only 5,000 so of course but either way at the behest of Rick Scott a judge fine yeah Fine. Yeah. A judge announced that, you know, these people are going to be able to vote again. But, I mean, that's good.

That's what the judge should have found. But at the same time, there are statistics showing that when it rains on a given day, that's enough to, you know, discourage a lot of people from voting. So, you know, this is definitely going good. Yeah, hitting up 5,000. Hey, man, can you vote again? Right. Get out the re-vote. Wait, what happened?

Oh, your signature didn't match. Man, let's throw my shit away. Right. No, please, if you're one of those people, I guess re-sign your shit. You're one of the top 5,000 most powerful people right now on Earth. Enjoy that.

I mean, hopefully those 5,000 are enough to sway, but I don't think earth. Enjoy that. I mean, if hopefully those are 5,000 or enough to sway, but I don't think so. Uh, all right, we're going to take another quick break. We'll be right back. I've been thinking about you. I want you back in my life.

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in the aftermath of the 2016 election and sort of how it went behind the scenes as they discovered what was going on with russia interference and launching all these sort of fake campaigns misleading campaigns to sway viewers. And there wasn't anything that really surprised me in here, but it's just like, oh, you guys are so fucking good. They're fucking evil. They suck. They suck.

They suck. Okay. Yeah. Please read the article because when you actually read the descriptions of how people within the company were like, hey, I discovered like a lot of Russian activity around this kind of stuff. What are you doing? They're like, shut the fuck up.

Yeah. Don't say anything. A lot of it makes Sheryl Sandberg lean in herself look kind of bad. Oh, yeah. Not kind of bad. Very bad. Or not kind of bad, very bad. Like, for instance, when their lead security, cyber security person came to them with the initial problem, she was pissed at him for looking into it because it exposed them legally. Because they observed it. She would have rather had him ignore it, which is, I think, that very specific detail gets at exactly what's wrong.

It's not, they're not interested in solving problems. They're interested in, you know, whatever is going to legally give them the excuse to keep as much of our money as they possibly can get. That's like Silicon Valley's rallying cries. Right. I'd rather you ignored this. Yeah, right. Don't make it hot. Yeah.

Okay? You're making it hot. Just go back in your little hole and crunch some numbers. You know, there's a lot of, they bring in outside advisors and- Lobbyists. Lobbyists. They brought in lobbyists. Sandberg, who was actually a Clinton administration official, hired her friend Joel Kaplan, who was from the George W. Bush administration,

to work at the company. And Kaplan was an advisor on this and thought it was a bad idea to look into it. He's like, Cheryl's right on this one. And he worried that looking into it would alienate Republicans and also Facebook users who had been duped by Russian pages. Oh, no. So just let them continue to be duped. Yeah, and it was like, well, we don't want to look like we're siding with Democrats.

You're not looking like anything. You're observing what's going on, and you're reporting on it. And this fear of the right shit, you can just tell that was the whole thing going on. And it's been going on with them of like, well, we don't want to press these other sites. Cause then they're going to blame us of censorship. It's like, yeah, but look,

there's, there's fuckery going on and you have to do something. And I mean, on top of it too, they also hired like an opposition research firm, like to go after like critics of the company. Yeah. Anyone saying bad things.

Right. And who were using the time-honored fucking strategy of tying activists to George Soros. Well, also. Right, by also using their connections with the business world to get sort of Jewish anti-defamation groups to also characterize any criticism of Facebook as anti-Semitic. So they were using every angle, like literally every angle to try and shield

themselves. Can someone from the Zeitgang who is involved in the PR world or the marketing world, tell me what the word is for this? Because this, we're seeing it so much that it has to be like a very specific strategy, but it's accusing someone of something while doing the thing you're accusing them of. Basically, your cover for doing something is... Because in this case... It's called projecting. They're being anti-Semitic while accusing other people of being anti-Semitic. It's like

the Republicans do this all the time, and now Facebook brings in Republican lobbyists and oppo research teams, and they're like, okay, so here's how you're going to want to handle this. Make anti-Semitic claims about tying the people to George Soros and then also accuse them of being anti-Semitic. Yeah, and also, let's stop doing the thing where we're like, George Soros gave them money as if people were hitting him up on the phone for money. It's so wild he runs all his money

like a lot of his money his like huge philanthropic arm is the open society foundations uh project and that's where a lot of the philanthropic like funding goes through that and people like they're like yo like we need help it's not george soros himself choosing whatever like a new kind of activist wave he wants to ride to disrupt D.C. or whatever. I think there's a and they use this same like the same vague language to keep saying George Soros when I get it. This guy, he gives a lot of money away, but it's more accurate to talk about the money came from his like foundation rather because they're they're really trying to paint him as this like jewish mastermind puppet master who runs the fucking country or the world or whatever uh and it's just really shitty i mean like even to paint like some of these other groups as like being manipulated by george soros like through their op research is like fucking just racist and anti-semitic it's just it's And then on top of it, too, it gets messier because the guy who runs that research firm,

it's called Definers Public Affairs, he is a contributor to Crooked Media. And he's like Pod Save America's token conservative, this guy Tim Miller. And the Pod Save America guys did a very interesting defense of their connection to him. It was funny because I think Tommy Vitor, Jon Favreau, as they're reading it, they're like, oh, this is bad. But then like it was almost as if he didn't realize it was connected to someone they knew who was like engaging in this shitty stuff. Right. And they were like, well, we're going to get to the bottom of this and we'll see. We're going to figure this out.

I think your shit heel friend here is doing the same kind of bullshit, anti-Semitic. There's no token good conservative, guys. They've been garbage for your entire lifetime. Yes. It's just a fact. Yeah. But, you know, so it's, yeah. Again, if you needed even more of a reason to be like, Facebook, I think sucks.

Yeah. Read this article because they really didn't give a fuck about what was going on on their platform and just wanting to bury their head in the sand. I mean, I think that's like – it's not just that, though. It's like the same with Twitter where you're like this pseudo-libertarian ideal. Like anything deeper than the surface, you're like, oh, this is right wing bullshit. It's just like,

it is like, you can apply whatever theory you want to it. But in reality, it's like, yeah, guess what? These theories just so happen to only support right wing ends. So guess what?

Like either your theory is wrong or you're just a right wing asshole. Yeah. I just think we've crossed so much plausible deniability on the allegedly liberal Silicon Valley bullshit. It's like, these guys are just conservatives and racists to boot. Yeah. And anytime you have something unregulated, the capitalists are going to come in and it's going to... Then you get this shit where they're like, shut the fuck up. This is what happened.

Well, you just get immense power in the hands of a very few people. Jeff Bezos, now the richest person in the history of the world, and Facebook is this massive company that just does whatever the fuck it wants. And that goes back, like right-wing ideology is just about justifying the few

to have the ability to do whatever they want to the many. So one thought that occurred to me today is that the internet was started by like an academic and government funded experiment. And like we, we need something like that, like a modern Manhattan project to like where all the smartest people get together and just like work on some project that is going to make the internet suck less.

Like it just seems like it's just all these companies have the best coders. All these companies have all the power. But it seems like- If I could throw in another myth. What's that? Coders ain't that smart, dog. That's true. Coders are just mechanics. Right. Yeah, yeah. I'm't that smart that's true the coders are just mechanics right yeah yeah

i'm saying it's true actually probably mechanics solve more actual problems but you know somebody who build a browser something that people could use that would just be like yeah you know facebook can't fuck with you when you're on this like google can't fuck with you when you're on this like something, Google can't fuck with you when you're on this. Like, something like that. Because there's just not, when it's just pure capitalism, people are getting fucked over and you have this evil shit. Democrats need to regulate the fuck out of this is what they need to do. It's like.

Or the government. I mean, like, there's no, that's the problem. It's just like, yo, just do your thing. And we'll, you know. I feel like we're in an age of both government and shitty left-leaning people that i'm like it's we're just gonna end up with like a segregated internet or something like that you know what i mean it's like okay here's how we decided to solve all the problems right separate but equal internets guys it's www l for liberal or www c for conservative dot whatever the fucking website.

Yeah. Yeah. You know, again, it's just to see those like really shitty tactics deployed and total just washing of their hands of any responsibility is like, this is when you realize the adult has to come in the room and be like, okay, y'all are fucking up in here.

What's what's going on. Yeah. Cause I don't know. Yeah. Cause I, from what it looks like, Chuck Schumer was another huge cheerleader for them as well who was just also trying to be like, well, what about these other companies?

Or just trying to subtly be like, we need to figure out how to be friends with Facebook. Yeah, and it just demonstrated how these public and private, like the Chuck Schumer is pregnant with Facebook and Facebook is pregnant with Chuck Schumer because his kids work for Facebook. Yeah, one of his kids, like, has a really great job there, presumably because they know it, like, helps their power.

Yeah, so I don't know. There needs to be some separation of church and state that just does not exist anymore. I just want Facebook to fly into outer space and bring back xenomorphs to study for just anything. Yeah, right? We're basically there. What was the name of that company?

Weyland-Yutani. Yeah, Weyland-Yutani. Yeah. The next. It's going to be weylandyutani.com. Yeah. Let's talk about something important, guys. Yeah. So I'm about something important, guys. Yeah.

So I'm not up on the cutting edge of garbage cereal innovations, but there is a new one that is making my head spin. Sour Patch Kids is becoming a cereal. They have apparently found a way to capture the sour initial experience of a Sour Patch Kids followed by the dull sweetness that comes at the end of it. Basically, I'm expecting that it's just you pour Sour Patch Kids into a bowl and then pour milk over it.

It's like how I'm imagining it. But I'm assuming that's not what happened. Anyways, this is just the latest in garbage food innovations or mashups. In my experience, these tend to succeed about as well as you would expect them to. Doritos Locos Tacos seemed like a good idea. Everyone was like, oh, yeah, I would definitely eat that. That sounds good. Whereas Sour Patch Kids cereal sounds like shit.

Yeah, just in the beginning, you're like, do I want something sour with milk? How acidic do you want your milk today? Yeah, exactly. Just the idea of sour milk. Yeah. Shout out to DJ Sour Milk. But it's like a very weird, ugh, I don't know, man. Yeah.

I mean, Rice Krispie Treat cereal was like, that's when I got off the train. That's when I was like, all right. Cookie Crisp. We're there. Raisin Bran Crunch is where I got off. Oh, really? Yeah. That was the last sort of innovation where I was like,'s when I got off the that's when I was like alright cookie crisp we're there Raisin Bran Crunch is where I got off oh really yeah that was the last like sort of innovation where I was like this is so fucking good man

okay here's the recipe pitch cause you can marinate shit in butter like a chicken in butter milk or what not right I'm saying some enterprising soak your Sour Patch Kid Sour Patch Kid milk brine fried chicken. Oh, God.

I promise you some Asian dude who loves hip hop is going to open a restaurant. No shade to the 19 of those guys who are out there. Right, right, right. Tatted up. Yeah. Yeah, well, look, Sour Patch Kid cereal, I wish you good luck. I think it's dropping. Boxing Day, December 26th.

I would stick to slushies and shit like that, where you actually make sense. Popsicles. There's Sour Patch Kids popsicles that are recently released, and that's your lane, guys. Makes sense. When you begin bringing dairy into it, you're like, hmm.

Or just put a squeeze of lemon juice over your frosted flakes in the morning. See how that works. Just like exactly. Don't let the big corporations do it. Yeah. Do it yourself. Wilding out.

So gross. All right. So we did want to get to this news that is both breaking news and breaking Australia. Yeah. Again, we do try and cover world events, and apparently in Australia there's really big news around this hardware store known as Bunnings Warehouse, which is like a Home Depot, do-it-yourself kind of store.

I'll just let this news clip from Australia just sort of paint the picture of the situation right now over there. Bunnings is being forced to change the classic sausage sizzle. I know. Just wait. Oh, come on, Georgie. There are some safety concerns. Now, look at that there. You can see how perilous that looks, the onion.

What are you talking about, Georgie? Well, the suggestion from Bunnings is that by placing the onion on top of the slippery sausage, there's a risk that it can fall out and you could slip. What needs to be done is the onion needs to sit under the slippery sausage. What do you mean? Well, if it sits under the sausage and you wrap the bread up around it, there's no risk. But I like to get the taste of the sausage on the top of the tongue and then the onions

on top of that. This will ruin Australia. Australia will not make it through today if this happens. Bunnings, you get a lot of things right, but I'm sorry, you got this one wrong. Yeah. So essentially this is all – that was a bit of a tongue-in-cheek response, but apparently this has people kind of upset because they feel like, why are you all even trying to tell us how to rock the onions on a hot dog? Now, at Bunnings, apparently, charity organizations set up a little quick hot dog stand where the money goes to their charitable organizations, and you get your little hot dog.

Me, personally, as an American looking at that, it's a piece of white bread, but then just oriented diagonally, and then the link is put on with just barbecue sauce and grilled onions. It does not look that great to me. Yeah, and it looks like a giant sausage. It's a gigant – yes. Yeah, it is too big. It's not a Frankfurter like we're used to out here. But yeah, I guess some people were sort of jokingly felt like it's like some nanny state governmental overreach kind of thing where they're like, oh, now Bunnings is telling us where to put the onion. Now, I get, actually, you know, if you don't want people slipping and shit in a hardware

store, probably potentially carrying a bunch of shit or whatever. But at the same time, like... I'm totally fine with them making this change. Are you? Yeah. Man. I mean, I like it. Good luck with that take.

Get out of Australia. I'm in the nails aisle with my speakeasy where I will, I don't serve any food, but what I'll do is I will change the order of your sausage. So buy your sausage, bring it over, give me $18 Australian, and I will real quickly make it the way God intended. Because remember, we were talking a few weeks ago about how sometimes toppings on the top are actually kind of harder to eat a hot dog because your upper lip will just basically move all the shit down the bun. And then you're like, I'm not even getting all the flavor on here.

Yeah. No, I totally understand about feeling very serious about your food and the order in which the ingredients are arrayed. But this seems like it's not. very serious about your food and the order in which the ingredients are arrayed. But this seems like it's not. Even as he was saying it, he was like, I like to taste the hot dog on the top of my tongue. And it almost seemed like he was going to say the onions on the bottom. And then he was like, oh, wait, that's not right.

That's not how a mouth works. And then the onions above that. Wait, so you like onions on the roof of your mouth? What are you talking about, bro? Clearly, a lot of the reaction has been tongue-in-cheek. But I like, though, that it's been such a phenomenon. Like, even the prime minister, someone asked the prime minister for a comment. They're like, is this an Australian? And he's like, I don't know.

I'm going to keep rocking the bread with the link. So is this the equivalent of, like, Costco pizza and Costco, like, Home Depot hot dogs? Yeah, like, Home Depot has hot dogs. They have that trash hot dog. Right, but that's not a beloved thing, is it? The Home Depot hot dog? I think it kind of is a little. If you go to the Depot or grew up going with your parents,

I remember being like, let's get the Home Depot hot dog. I remember the popcorn. Depot dogs, baby. They're good. To my memory, right? Are they okay? Yeah, look, it's a Home Depot hot dog. I remember the Home Depot hot dog. Popcorn. Depot dogs, baby. They're good. Yeah, I mean, like, to my memory, right? Are they okay? Yeah.

Look, it's a hot dog. They seem like middle-of-the-road, like, ballpark hot dogs, which are solid. Super good. Yeah. Like, you know, I feel like people would probably be upset, you know, if Costco got rid of the chicken bake or something. I think they did get rid of it. No, they didn't get rid of the chicken bake.

Wait, the rotisserie chicken? No, the chicken bake. No, no, there's like a hot cowzone, but filled with ranch dressing and chicken. It's insanity. But, you know, hey, look, stick up for yourself, Australians. Don't let the government tell you how to eat your shit. Is the white bread how all Australians eat hot dogs? Or is that just like, this is like our broke ass hot dog and people love it kind of for being that way?

Well, no, it's weird because I saw a tweet where in that New York Times article where they said that like someone was living not in Western Australia and saw that the bunnings in Western Australia had a fucking proper like roll like a hot dog bun. Right. Whereas the other ones were just doing white bread and they were like, yo, what? Even then they were like, yo, y'all are doing it with a bun? So they're learning a lot. I don't know. Interesting. Well, Australia, I'm sure you're gonna tell me why I'm

wrong to think this is no big deal. Also, what's that link like? Tell me what that link is like, because if it's just a big-ass bland hot dog, Frank, is there a little seasoning in there? Nah, you just need that for walking around a hardware store, though. But the size is like, you know, in terms of thickness of a frank. That feels like actually a good bread to frank ratio to me.

This one maybe, yes. No, no, the other one. Oh, the white bread one? Yeah. I feel like the white bread will get super soft and soggy real quick. Yeah, it'll just break apart so quickly. Maybe our white bread is thinner and more delicate. That might be a more Asian type of white bread.

Oh, yeah. Oh, interesting. I feel like there's a real chance given Australia's location. Look, Aussie Zeitgang, tell us about your white bread and these bunning sausage sizzles. And in the backlash to my take on this, tell me about shit that we do that's stupid compared to what you guys do. That is not hot dog related. And don't bring up gun control. Yes.

Tired of that. We get it. We love our guns. I'm packing right now. Yeah, pop out. Andrew, as always, it's been wonderful having you, man. Thanks for having me. Where can people find you?

Man, you know what? You can having me. Where can people find you? Man, you know what? They can find me. Listen to the 1001st episode of Yo, Is This Racist? Yeah. I'm online at Andrew T. Last name is spelled T-I. It is all caps. You can also see me if you're in Chicago

on November 29th at Chicago Theater Works. Maybe we might be doing basically on November 29th at Chicago Theater Works. Maybe we might be doing basically a people of color double feature with the Culture Kings. And as I've said before on Yosef's Racist, I'll say it here, I guarantee we will be physically fighting the Culture Kings in the lobby of Chicago Theater Works

between shows, so get tickets to both shows. Man, do they know you got hands? I think they probably don't, actually. Yeah, that's dangerous. Those hands are rated T. We promise we will be doing a physical fight. No, we'll probably be, I think we're just going to get drunk in the lobby. Oh, okay.

Post our show, pre their show. Yeah, also, guys, don't fuck with Andrew T. Hands are fast. My knees are a little shot, so I'm not as- Oh, don't be so humble. I don't have as much lateral movement as I would like.

I remember when Kevin was like, yo, Andrew can fucking fight, bro. Our friend. You know what? I will say, actually, after our Detroit show,

a couple people came up and they'd only bought tickets because... They wanted to test you? No, because they'd mentioned it on this show. Oh, dope. Yeah, so,

Zygank, thanks for coming out in Detroit and do, you know, Chicago. And here's the pitch for that, which is mainly that, you know, you just had a racist Thanksgiving, so this is how you're going to burn off some of that racism. Cleanse your palate. Yeah. Yes. And is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, yes.

Yes, yes, yes. Okay, it is from Christine Nangle, Nanglish on Twitter. Really good person. Big Philly fan. She's very funny. If you're a nun, how much do you worry that the other nuns are singing about how you're not an asset to the Abbey? Just constantly, I'm sure.

I love shit-talking nuns. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you? Twitter, Instagram, at Miles of Grey. We have live shows as well. November 29th at UCB Sunset. Come true for that. With a very special guest, a hacker by the name of Jamie Loftus will be at that show as our guest.

And then on December 1st in Chicago for Chicago Pop Fest, and Jaquise Neal from Culture Kings will be joining us, and actually one of you. So, guys, get your over, under, and myth ready, because you could join us on stage now. And shout out to, I think, our mutual agent. Yeah. Yeah, booking us together.

Everyone getting all that shit together. And a tweet that I like is from Blair Sochi, who tweeted, Tommy Lahren looks like if Arizona State was a person. That's just... Damn. Hey, man, my cousin is a sun devil, but he kind of looks like Tommy Lahren. And a tweet I've been enjoying is just a true fact, but at Urban Achiever tweeted,

Today I learned that alt-right pizza gator Jack Posobiec wrote Game of Thrones fan fiction about Donald Trump and a teenage Sansa Stark falling in love. That is true. He really did? Yes. Dude, that guy, he always gets caught cheating on his wife. Yep. It's, like, really pathetic. He's just nonstop font of sexual embarrassment.

Oh, yeah. It's barely subtext. Like, these people don't understand anything about how to communicate. It's so wild. Like, don't put your whole brain out there like that when you have such a gross, fucked up brain. It's also like all the conservative politicians who are, like, extremely homophobic and then get caught, like, being the kingpin of a, like, gay prostitution ring or sex worker ring. Anyways, you can follow me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can follow us

at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, dailyzeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song we write out on. You can also find that in

the show notes and miles what song are we gonna write uh you know i just you know you were talking about how explosive that uh travis scott's performance was when uh sheck west came out from obama i wanted to play remind me of the song explosive. Dre, but the actual original song from the Shaft soundtrack that they sampled, Bumpy's Lament, by Mac Brown and the Brothers. So this is Bumpy's Lament from Mac Brown and the Brothers used as the sample for Explosive, Dr. Dre's Chronic 2001. All right, we are going to ride out on that.

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