The Daily Zeitgeist - Falwell’s Dumb Dictatorship, Mystery Of The Cube Shaped Poo 9.16.19

Episode Date: September 16, 2019

In episode 474, Jack and Miles are joined by comedian Eric Lampaert to discuss the GOP attacking socialism, Rudy Giuliani tweeting propaganda, Trump blaming his orange skin on the energy-saving lights..., Jerry Falwell's wild behavior, the Russian spy outed by Trump, the Ig Nobel prize winner, and more! FOOTNOTES:1. Insane New GOP Attack Ad Sets Photo of AOC on Fire to Decry Evils of Socialism2. @rudygiuliani: GOD BLESS AMERICA! 3. 'Dim-Witted' Trump Slammed Over Backward Light Bulb Rule4. Trump Blames Energy-Saving Light Bulbs for His Bright Orange Appearance5. In the Pale of Winter, Trump’s Tan Remains a State Secret6. We May Have Unlocked the Mystery of Trump’s Orange Skin7. ‘Someone’s Gotta Tell the Freakin’ Truth’: Jerry Falwell’s Aides Break Their Silence8. Falwell Jr. says FBI to investigate 'criminal conspiracy' at Liberty University9. Exclusive: Falwell blasted Liberty student as 'retarded,' police chief as 'half-wit' in emails10. Putin just asked Interpol to find a Russian spy in the US, days after the media revealed his whereabouts11. Study of French postmen's testicles is an Ig Nobel winner12. WATCH: One Day - Smeyeul Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:18 and say, officially, off the top, fuck Coke Industries and fuck Fox News it's monday september 16th 2019 my name is jack o'brien aka it's the end of the world and all of western civilization psychic spies from china steal my snl elation and if you want these kind of gems, join Shangri-La's nation. Oh. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host Mr. Miles Gray!
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Starting point is 00:03:14 Anyway, shout out to Trite Gang. You know, look, we don't have to talk about that. On mic. But yeah, Trite Gang, I just test-ay-dee-zee-ay-kay-ay-ays for that Nickelback photograph, AKA. Thank you very much. Well, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by the hilarious comedian and talented performer, Mr. Eric Lampert. Hello.
Starting point is 00:03:35 Hello, gentlemen. Welcome. Hello, Eric. Thanks for having me again and again and again, guys. It's so good to have you back. It feels like I'm at home here. Yeah. And you guys are my mom and dad, but I don't know which one's mom
Starting point is 00:03:47 and I don't know which one's dad. It doesn't matter. You could be both my dad. Look, I provide feminine and masculine energy to everybody in a loving way. In turn. And in turn, receiveth loving. In kind. In kind.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And so as to... Are you doing something about Mary? Yeah, yeah. When I was in Nepal, they called me Kim Tati, which meant he who giveth love returns. Something about Mary I feel like is sort of an under... Overlooked gem, maybe. At least the character of Pat Healy.
Starting point is 00:04:19 Oh, Pat Healy. I think Pat Healy is one of the best scumbags ever. Was he the one that had like psoriasis and stuff? No, that was Chris Elliott's character, Don Wuganowski. Pat Healy was the private investigator played by Matt Dillon. Well, Eric, we're going to get to know you a little bit better, catch up with you, find out what you've been up to. But first, we are going to take our listeners through a couple of things we're talking about today. Right-wing propaganda is getting scary.
Starting point is 00:04:44 We're going to talk about a couple of examples of that. We are going to talk about the real reason that Trump's energy department just announced that they were scrapping those energy-efficient light bulbs. I hadn't heard this. It's interesting. Well, finally, I like that science is actually dictating some of the policy. Yes, that's right. We're going to talk about the Liberty University clusterfuck, the JF2, Jerry Falwell Jr., and the Politico expose is just an incredible story and proves that the Righteous Gemstones is actually too understated.
Starting point is 00:05:28 It's not over the top enough. We are going to talk about that Russian spy who had to be pulled out of Russia. We're going to talk about the Ig Nobel Prizes. I love those. Yeah. I'm so ignorant. I just found out about this. Oh, I love those. Yeah. I'm so ignorant. I just found out about this. Oh, they're brilliant.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Yeah. As I read them, I'm like, I looked at Jack and went, you heard about this? He's like, yeah. Yeah, bro. Not up on my science at all.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Sorry. Yeah, I've worked on the internet for many years. Yeah. Heard of it. And we're going to talk about Popeyes too because their solution is, they've come up with a solution to your problem. They've come up to a non-solution to a problem that shouldn't have
Starting point is 00:06:13 ever existed. They should just be selling Wonder Bread out front. Eventually. Yeah. But first, Eric, we like to ask our guests. Oh, I know what you like to ask what's something from your search history bro uh so the last thing i searched was the 31 best final shots in horror movies whoa just it was just an article i think by one picture.com or something um and i quite like studying uh film and like cinematography yeah and the opening shot and the final shot always intrigues me because there's a reason there should well there there's a reason. Well, there should be a reason. If the director is good or the storyteller is good, there should be a reason as to why we're seeing that.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Right, right. And I'm really starting to think, I think Hollywood's getting to me, bro. Getting in your veins, huh? But I am really fascinated by not just the story, but what is in the mind of the director? Why did the director choose that frame? Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:07:06 Over the myriad of millions of frames that could be a possibility. Was there a specific film that kind of you were impressed by that you didn't think was actually as impressive? Now, here's my shame. I Googled it to read for later. No examples.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Next time I'm back, I will update you what happens hey transparency right exactly yeah i like that that um the idea of like thinking of every shot in a movie as like an individual painting where everything in the frame was decided for a reason. Yeah. That's like, that's when I really got, I had a film studies professor who was like, nothing is there by accident. And I have since learned that that's not necessarily true, but it's just from a viewer's perspective,
Starting point is 00:07:58 it's a good way to think about movies. Oh yeah. That everything has meaning. So yeah. Like someone said that they found roma boring right did you like look at it which and in a way i'm like i fit you know fair enough some people don't have time to watch as many movies as let's say i do right but i said i said to them i was like no no but re-watch it and ask yourself why that opening shot for example took so long right
Starting point is 00:08:22 where you just saw this sort of blood being washed. Was it blood or poo? I think it was poo. I think it was poop, yeah. It was dog poop. And why did it take so long? Why was it so almost... Why was it, in a way, so boring?
Starting point is 00:08:35 Right. Because it was her daily life. We were experiencing a little bit of her daily life and how, like, monotonous it is. I think there's layers, right, to getting more engaged with film and watching film. The first is just like, is it entertaining based on me opening my eyes and aiming them at the screen?
Starting point is 00:08:50 Right. And then from there, yeah. Can you pick up on the nuances in the acting and then the cinematography itself? Because when you start really appreciating, you'll go back to other films, especially if you begin to identify directors or cinematographers and you're like, wow, when you realize the intention of things, it adds so much more meaning. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:08 Like the language. You know, if you can study a little bit of French and go, oh, la bibliothèque, you know, where is the library? Mais si tu peux apprendre le français tellement que tu peux parler comme ça. All of a sudden, it's like, oh, baby. Wow. I speak fluent French.
Starting point is 00:09:22 I feel like I've been made're french by the french language yes uh man that part in uh roma i was just you bringing it up it was just making me think of the part where they like go to the country to like stay at those people's house yeah that's like a oh man what what a sequence of just i don't know guys watch it you know watch everything check that shit out that That's like... Or start, you know, start small. Start noticing when you see long master shots. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Like with no cuts. That was my first foray into under, like as a stoner college kid. I'm like, yo, dude, I think that was just all like one take right there. Like you're like Boogie Nights. You're like, dude, I think this is all just, whoa, dude.
Starting point is 00:10:00 They went in the pool and then came out. Right. I don't think they cut. Or like Snake Eyes also has one in the opening. Oh, yeah. Yeah. One of the best long shots ever is when Chief Brody is walking with a mare in Jaws. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:15 And he's walking along the beach and the mare's like, I don't want to close the beach and stuff like that. And then they sort of walk up and then they walk by the billboard. The end of the billboard. Shark graffiti. Or whatever. Right, the shark graffiti. And then they continue.
Starting point is 00:10:29 But the choreography of where the three actors are moving while the camera's moving. Yeah. Ah. Yeah. Ah. I don't want to sit here and talk to a guy who's lining up to be a hot lunch. Wow. Somebody preaching the gospel.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Direct from the scripture. What is something you think is overrated? Overrated? How about other people's opinion, yeah? Yeah, bro. I love other people's stories. I love other people's thoughts and behaviors and why, like, for example, they have those thoughts and why they have those behaviors. Where did that come from?
Starting point is 00:11:02 I love every single person's story. has those behaviors where did that come from i i love every single person's story but when they come at me on the internet with an opinion of my own perception and my own reality i sometimes go how about you just kill yourself a little bit because it's quite frustrating when you for example i was called a homophobe uh while i was i was on set i was i was doing a comedy night, and I was doing a set about the time I did some fellatio on a man's penis. And my opinion was, it wasn't for me. Right. And I was sharing that, hey, not for me. For other people, great.
Starting point is 00:11:35 Tried it, got the t-shirt, not interested. And I think because obviously I was bringing lightness and humor to my own experience about how I wasn't into it. Or your own sexual experience experimentation and i was like i tried to finish just to make him happy and you know like yeah basically you do i i sort of brought light to it and then this guy was clearly triggered and clearly bullied a lot at school by his own experience he just heard me making like light of sucking dick essentially right and he was really upset. And I tried to, like, be kind and listen. And after a while, I went, you know what, mate?
Starting point is 00:12:08 You're not listening to me. Sure, sure. Right. Well, that's the thing. And I think a lot of people, too, expect their opinion to affect another person by voicing it, right? Because we're sort of raised from children to look at feedback from our parents first and be like, okay, how do I adjust?
Starting point is 00:12:23 And you're always looking at feedback, feedback, feedback, opinions. And then at a certain point, like when you sort of realize who you are, those don't need to inform your own movement as a human being, how you take the world in. But a lot of people still feel entitled to controlling or at least thinking that, let me say this thing to control this or check this person. And the way he was talking
Starting point is 00:12:45 to me there wasn't there's a little bit of moment of sadness in a way because the way he was talking to me was like i was the bully at school i was his bully at school sure and i kept thinking i didn't say any of this to him but i was like mate i lived in seven countries before the age of 12 me getting bullied about my identity was my entire childhood right and just because it wasn't a sexual thing but it was more uh you know what it's like to be seen as different and then half people sort of yeah yeah but he i i knew that at the moment he was just fired up and didn't want to listen and i was like oh mate yeah like all right i think that's interesting that you kind of the other option is like telling your story like if he had come to you and been like, this is my story. And then like make of it what you will, as opposed to just, there's something so like, like literally ego centered of opinion.
Starting point is 00:13:33 Like, that's like, this is how I see it. Right. And you're trying to force that very specific point of view. He really got in my face. Yeah. And I was just aware that, oh, he's clearly got some pain from childhood. Yeah. Because I put a little bit of thought into it.
Starting point is 00:13:50 But if I was just present with him and I would just be like. Sure. I would get defensive. Yes. Because he was being rude to me. And so at some point you just have to ignore people's opinion if you know they're wrong. No, it's not even that. You don't need to explain yourself to people all the time.
Starting point is 00:14:08 And I think we're used to explaining ourselves all the time. Like I said, like when, you know, like I do this because of this or whatever. But at a certain point, I mean, as long as you're not being like evil or something and someone is just misconstruing, maybe you're like what you're saying or what they believe you to be. But that's our own desire right for our egos because we don't want to feel like we're misunderstood by another person because then our identity in this person's eye is not what we believe it should be right so then we're they're activating our own ego shit it's more like you know what you can think i'm living my truth here i know that emanates from within me first yeah yeah and if you if you can't uh you know pick up
Starting point is 00:14:44 what i'm transmitting then that's on you. Right. You know what I mean? I got to keep it moving because I'm here to make love and make peace. Right. There's nothing more boring than listening to an artist explain their work, like in their opinion, what it means or like why they did something as opposed, but their work is brilliant. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:00 So like just do whatever your version of art is. Don't like give, yeah. Yeah. Life is art. Yeah. Live your life whatever your version of art is don't don't like give yeah yeah life is art yeah live your life like a work of art wow uh what is something you think is underrated i didn't write anything okay wow just just philosophically you just mean i think like just on the premise nothing's underrated well you know there is i guess there is a place for everything right there is yeah sometimes i everything, right? There is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sometimes I go, is it underrated?
Starting point is 00:15:27 Is it not? And this is my what? How many times have I been here? Maybe four? Four or nine. I've run out of my underrated things now. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:15:34 Well, you were just in Boise, Idaho. How did you like Boise? I loved it. Oh, shout out to Sarah from Boise who came to my show. Yeah. Boise was wonderful. Caitlin Gill had a comedian. She did a great sort of observation about how
Starting point is 00:15:47 they wear the t-shirts of their own town. That's how much- In Boise? That's how much people from Boise and Idahoans love their city and state. They wear t-shirts of their own city and state. Were they wearing the school's shirts or just straight up just Boise? Just like the picture of the state, for example. Is there a football field still blue? I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Good branding. Is that Boise State? Bo the state, for example. Is there a football field still blue? I think so, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Good branding. Is that Boise State? Boise State, I believe, yeah. Is that even possible to have a Boise State since Boise is not a state but a city? Look, man, I got a lot of tales. Maybe Boise State as in Boise State of Mind. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:21 Welcome to Boise. It's chill here. New York State of Mind. I'm trying to think of like what the slogan for boise would be but i don't know shit about boise so why would i know what the slogan for boys i'm guessing it's i think it's an agricultural one right so it's uh it is like uh the latin is like reap and you shall receive you know right yeah yeah the motto of boise yeah gone city of trees yeah it's blah it's bois. It's French for bois. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:46 Bonjour, le bois. What is a myth? What's something people think is true you know to be false? Hey, bro, concepts. Have you ever considered how concepts aren't real? Are you making fun of me right now? No. How about this, bro?
Starting point is 00:17:01 Talk like that. But again, I was like, oh, it's my fourth or fifth time here. And I need to come up with another myth that I can debunk, you know, because I was like, there's plenty of myths out there, but one that I can debunk. And I just thought, based on what I've experienced this year, I was like, prove to me that any concept that you actually experience is real. You know, so you can read something. So the example I use is I think Jenny, the neuroscientist, right? She can be in a black and white room and learn about the color red, right?
Starting point is 00:17:32 Everything, the radio wave, you know, how it can be used. It represents love, but also danger, all of those things. But until she steps out of that room and actually sees the color red, she hasn't had the full information, right? And so then it becomes this really interesting thing where you go, okay, I've studied my entire life this thing that exists out there in the universe or past the universe or about time and stuff. But until you really experience it, like people that make beers, right?
Starting point is 00:17:58 You can make beer. You can put the ingredients in it, right? Water, barley, all of that delicious, yum, yum, yum. But until you're like drunk on beer. Sipping it, yeah, right, right. You haven't had the full experience of beer. Right. And so it makes, creatively speaking,
Starting point is 00:18:13 and actually philosophically speaking and stuff, and actually maybe to evolve as a human being, it's interesting to start thinking about the concepts that you believe in and then maybe see if you can break them down to truly understand the universe. Wow. How do you experience? them down to truly understand the universe wow how do you experience welcome alan watts but yeah it's true i think that the experience i mean we
Starting point is 00:18:31 can know so many things intellectually right but like but experience even just even adding experiences even to your point it might not be something you think you need or don't need or whatever but just always giving yourself new stimulation through experience right is can lead to tremendous growth time time is measured by change right and so for example a brain will always measure uh something for the first time so you always remember like your first kiss and first this first that and as you get older people are more and more afraid of doing more firsts right um and therefore time sort of moves in a sort of like kind of way which is why you should constantly keep you challenging yourself to experience first or read about firsts or do
Starting point is 00:19:10 more firsts right because then all of a sudden your memory bank just keeps filling because your brain goes this is first let's remember this this is why people in the car crash they say like it moved slowly bro i don't know why everyone's like, hanging out a lot of surfers. I sound like a fucking freshman philosophy student who just took a bong hit. Yeah. But yeah, stimulate your mind. Yeah. Stimulate.
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah. Cause it's true. Like, you know, you can, you can go to that same bar for the 900th time. That's not going to really necessarily open up something new in your memory, but you might remember trying like,
Starting point is 00:19:42 shit, maybe I will go to this weird grunge show, even though I don't fuck with grunge all the time the time right i'm trying to do that with music too now oh good because i like music but there's some genres of music where i'm like i don't know if i'm interested in seeing a live show of this because i wouldn't really listen to it normally but i'm more like no you know what like to take in the experience of seeing this other form of music that's the thing as well taking in the experience even if you don't really fit in or you don't like it just be chill enjoy it take it all in yeah it's quite fun well being uncomfortable typically leads to huge growth or something like you know like even when you're a
Starting point is 00:20:13 kid right like when i was playing sports i would when i've had to when i was good enough to play with like a lot older kids in hockey like i was very scared because i was like these kids are two years older than me and like when you're 12 that's like a whole fucking universe of size yeah but but that experience of being uncomfortable like forced me to improve or whatever it's like anything just put yourself in uncomfortable positions and you will prevail yes yes all right let's talk about uh there's a couple pieces of right-wing propaganda that are starting to make the right seem a little scarier than they seemed before I saw them. Before them?
Starting point is 00:20:49 I mean, yeah, they've been frightening me for a while. Right. So there was an ad that ran in New York and Houston and one other city during the debates that was a photograph of AOC, and it says, this is the face of socialism, and then lights it on fire. And then it burns away, and there's pictures of skulls and dead people underneath. And I guess the idea, this is from a PAC led by a woman who got totally tuned up in the 2018 midterms.
Starting point is 00:21:24 Trounced. Yeah, but she became famous anyway because her violent ads got banned from Facebook. So she became a figure of the right wing being able to say that their voice is being held back. Right, because she's an Asian woman. She's like the poster child of like, I'm a minority who fucks with Trump. Yes.
Starting point is 00:21:48 And her kind of origin story is that her parents were almost killed in the Cambodian killing fields, I think. Wow. Yeah. And all of that to just run, I mean, ugh. But that was done by the Khmer Rouge, and who's famously wearing rouge? I believe it's the Trump hats. I mean, that's about as similar as you get to,
Starting point is 00:22:07 like, that's, you might as well just be like, well, what color were they wearing? Because, like, for all the similarities that AOC has to the version of communism or socialism. I've never understood this, right? So some Americans don't want to listen to me, understandably, because you're not from here, bro. Why did I say bro?
Starting point is 00:22:29 We might take you seriously. So many people get angry at me when I just tell them, just so you know, I come from a place where I pay less tax and I get health care. Right. Just chill out with the socialism. Stop putting a dirty word on it. Right. I don't know. I don't know. i don't know i
Starting point is 00:22:45 genuinely my mind is boggled they should just call it low bills you want low bills you want lower bills right yeah yeah yeah yeah i fuck with that great that's what we're doing get your low bills out of my state yeah i don't want lower i want higher bills really it's my freedom to pay more money but yeah i think that's the thing too, because, you know, America, you know, at one point capitalism did work for a large number of people. And then that proportion has completely fallen off. And now it's different. And I think, you know, we've been, or not, I mean, many people have been conditioned
Starting point is 00:23:17 to hear those as like existential threat buzzwords of like communism, fucking socialist, social, whatever that is yeah it's just you know it's tough uh but then meanwhile you have uh candidates like this who you know uh just it really pains me when i see the like minorities who are really trying to like use their existence to try and soften trump's racism right or be like well you know, I think this is fine. Or like, he's actually chill because I support him. And it's just, it's very disingenuous to me. You know, like if you're on the right and you have an opinion and you phrase it in a way that's just like, hey, the reason I think like this is because of this and you're chill
Starting point is 00:23:58 about it, people will listen. If you're shouting in someone's face, you've already lost, mate. You've already lost. If you if you you know i don't know it's not well i think typically even calmly if you engage somebody on talking about socialism who is like on the the right they typically only have like three examples to point to which is interesting because one of the one most people who are in a very like lazy discourse will just be like what about v Venezuela, man? Right. As like this very extreme example,
Starting point is 00:24:25 completely removing all nuance as to the history of the country, the how, what the Western world's part is and, you know, pushing that country in that direction and things like that. Right. Right. And that was,
Starting point is 00:24:37 that was what I thought was interesting about the debates is when I forget which one of the hosts or the moderators basically frame that question to Bernie Sanders to be like, help explain this because most people basically frame that question to Bernie Sanders to be like, help explain this because most people, the first thing they're going to be like, well, what about like socialism? I hear that.
Starting point is 00:24:52 And so you will die. You're in favor of Venezuela. That's what you want my kids to be like, to have to fight people away from their mango tree with a crossbow. Yeah. My kid ain't going to become Venezuela. That's right. Damned damned um well so that ad uh from that pack during the debates got uh a like boycott abc trending on friday um but there was another ad that was that kind of flew under the radar that rudy giuliani tweeted that so it opens with
Starting point is 00:25:27 like a close-up on a cop's face and he's facing down um antifa basically antifa and black lives matter socialists uh they're and they're just like you know enraged and have signs that are like down with the police, the police state FTP. Yeah. FTP police are fascists. Yes. And, uh, and then it like flashes back to him,
Starting point is 00:25:52 uh, as a, you know, younger man being sworn in, like just various like moments of American patriotism military. And then as a child, uh, witnessing nine 11 happen. And then it like back to him, and he gets this look of determination on his face and pushes down his police visor and whips out this giant baton and is like, come on, mother.
Starting point is 00:26:20 It's like this call to arms of the cops are going to murder you. It's wildly epic. I'm not going to lie. By far blows out the production value of most dumb shit I've seen like this from the right. There was full on, they had extras. Oh, good for them. There might have been a second unit. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Oh, I think so. And they got a kid who looked like the cop to play the younger version of the cop. They nailed it. Oh, I really want to see the opening and final shot of that video now. Ah, yes. I'll give you a guess as to what is playing on the audio track. It's like Sweet Home Alabama, but done slowly. Sweet home Alabama.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Proud to be an American? Oh, beautiful. like a horror child a child's voice singing echoey room jack in the box music playing in the background exactly um jack o'brien in the box that's right hey oh man well like i said uh last week man just great police state porn uh for anybody who's like yeah man, man, I want it. So that's what I have to do to beat up people I don't agree with? Become a cop? Right.
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Starting point is 00:29:22 without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:30:02 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting
Starting point is 00:30:19 better. This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry,
Starting point is 00:30:44 Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really hear them voice. I just come here to play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is
Starting point is 00:31:05 braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the
Starting point is 00:31:21 talent is getting better. Listen to the Making of a Rivalry, Caitlin Clark vs. Angel Reese on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. And we're back. So this story last week, Trump's energy department announced they're scrapping new efficiency standards for light bulbs, which isn't that surprising because it's something that was finalized by Obama, first implemented by famous lefty George W. Bush. Is that how lame they are on the list of shit Obama did that they've gone through, like the big shit? And now like, all right, what else we got? This light bulb thing? Yeah. Fuck fuck it fuck it but a lot of people are pissed off because uh this standard would have saved consumers billions of dollars and prevented
Starting point is 00:32:16 millions of tons of carbon dioxide emissions uh and so people know, not surprisingly are like, wait, so why are we doing this? And last Monday at a rally, Trump said the quiet part out loud, as he is wont to do, and said he looks better under an incandescent light. And he prefaced that statement by saying, I'm not a vain person. And then the following Thursdayursday he blamed the led light bulbs for his orange skin tone he said the bulb that we're being forced to use number one to me most importantly the light's no good i always look orange and so do you the light is the worst and so do you wow just so not he he's not orange you're orange uh oh boy i mean like when you start arguing like
Starting point is 00:33:09 it's the color temp the color temperature is fucking up my whole existence he's thinking about cinematography i like it yeah he's like a gaffer now right he's like yeah actually we shouldn't like this with incandescent actually we get a keno an action movie in 2006. So it's that's, does that track? No. Why am I even asking if that tracks? No, of course not. Because he's been tanning. He's been orange since like 2003.
Starting point is 00:33:33 People actually looked into this. Like when did he first turn orange? And it actually goes back to before The Apprentice. I think, what did we figure out? 2004. 2004. Is when The Apprentice started? Yeah. And also Facebook? So that's when he turned orange. And it was around the time that
Starting point is 00:33:50 a business partner of his, who he was going in on an investment with at that time, I think they were buying the General Electric building together. They said they were buying the General Election. general election yeah that also happened uh but he that person bought uh new sunshine uh which was a company that makes tanning beds and also tanning uh spray spray tan and around that time suddenly uh trump turned orange people were like huh dude the presidential sheets at the White House must get all stained with his naughty little skin. He washes them. He's like, no, I'll do it myself. Wasn't there something about that? Like he had this weird thing.
Starting point is 00:34:34 He didn't want people looking at his sheets or towels or something. I don't know. Everything just blends together these days. But I like that it's born out of – I wonder what that guy, like when Trump's like, so what are you getting into? He's like, I'm in this like, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:34:47 tanning beds and stuff. Right. You know, you want to look like you're, you know, on vacation, you know, looking good.
Starting point is 00:34:51 Look at that nice, you know, hue to you, like burnt duck skin. And he's like, yeah, oh. I wonder if like that,
Starting point is 00:34:59 his wheels just started turning, goes, okay, that's my new thing. Right. I'm gonna start tanning. Yeah, you got to have a color.
Starting point is 00:35:04 That's good branding. But yeah, yeah new sunshine that company also became a sponsor of the celebrity apprentice so it's not like i mean there was a a tie-in there guys i want to talk about the show the righteous gemstones on hbo uh and its real world world equivalent that is unfolding in Virginia with Jerry Falwell's children and grandchildren. So first of all, shout out to HBO. Whoever is greenlighting these shows is fucking nailing the zeitgeist like 20 months in advance. Chernobyl. Chernobyl was like so perfect, which I guess wasn't like so hard to predict because you knew we had an administration coming in with their head like all the way up their ass. Well, that and also, yeah, like the sort of obscuring of truth and how that's used in service of darker ends and things like that.
Starting point is 00:35:59 But with Righteous Gemstones, I mean, they and Danny McBride fully nailed the Falwell family. I mean, I guess they've been around for a while, but it's pretty wild. charisma-less bearded guy who shows up at a lot of like Republican events and talks like this, like in really slow motion, deadpan. He is, is he swelling a sort of cold iced tea as he speaks? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:35 Well, well, well, well, I declare. Not even, he's very like, but on,
Starting point is 00:36:40 on very not memorable. Yeah. It's like, well, Oh yeah, that guy. Yeah. And then you're like,
Starting point is 00:36:45 wasn't your dad the guy that was like, Teletubbies are gonna make kids gay or something? Yeah, but he was also, his dad basically invented the whole,
Starting point is 00:36:55 like what we know now as the Baptist born again movement that we associate most, like American Christianity with, Jerry Falwell Singer, invented that, essentially. Right. And he died in 2007. Jerry Falwell II took over basically the whole company
Starting point is 00:37:13 and control of Liberty University, which was a university that was started by his dad. It is a nonprofit, not-for-profit, which means you're not allowed to profit. You're not allowed to have a political motive. And he has all of those things and blatantly uses it to self-deal himself great real estate opportunities. Oh, like in the name of buying it for the school or something? Yes, exactly. uh oh like in the name of buying it for the school or something exactly uh the school like
Starting point is 00:37:45 sold his personal trainer this like gorgeous huge property to like so that jerry falwell jr could like work out there and sold it to him for like an incredibly cheap price oh wow uh he's also like childishly horny and like talks to everybody about how he has sex with his wife and like nails her. And he's like, Oh, now my wife's so hard and like, she can't handle my big dick, bro.
Starting point is 00:38:11 That's shitty saying like to like his coworkers, coworkers. I'm like, I guess who are the coworkers at this weird church? Right. Anyway, they're probably like, hell yeah,
Starting point is 00:38:20 dude. And then like, no, no, everybody's like, what? So they're like actually conservative Christians who are like, I would no was that no everybody's like what so they're like actually conservative christians who are like i would never say that they're like this is a fucking nightmare
Starting point is 00:38:30 it's like a dictatorship under this dude like everybody is terrified and just disgusted behind his back but around him they're all just like ah you said it jf you. You nailed her. You got it, man. Nailed her for sure, doggy. Sex god. He once sent a picture of his wife in a French maid's outfit around to a bunch of board members. And I was like, sorry, guys. Meant to send that to my personal trainer. It's like, no, you didn't. You fucking creep. But also, I feel so desperately sorry for him.
Starting point is 00:39:04 I mean, obviously, no, because he's being incredibly rude to his wife. I think if you can extract all the evil shit he does and exploitative bullshit he does under the- It's just the saddest thing, isn't it? It's like, hey guys, look, I do have sex with a lady. Right, like you don't. He really reminds me of Donald Trump Jr. Like the whole, first of all, his beard and chinless beardedness, but also just his, like, never really experienced discomfort other than his father's disapproval. And so, you know, takes it out on everybody else.
Starting point is 00:39:37 Jack, may I interrupt you here? You said chinless as if that was a really bad thing. I would like to explore that further. Because take a good look at my face jack i think you're beautiful i don't have a chin to myself and you said chinless in such a way that i'm looking right there i'm a tractor man what he says tracks it's i need a beard to make a seam like i've got a chin but if i shave like gavin mcginnis like that famous video he did years ago before he became mr proud boys was like talking about why he needs a beard.
Starting point is 00:40:06 Oh, really? And he shaved and he's like, because I don't have a chin. It was like, when you saw that, I was like, oh, there's that energy that will begin to evolve into what a proud boy is. Then you have Eric who's self-actualized and, you know, empathetic. And he's like, well, we're all dealt chins. Some get. Some have bigger chins than others. Some get huge ones, though, too.
Starting point is 00:40:23 Oh, man. Jay Leno. Reese Witherspoon. What a beautiful chin she has. Yes. Some get huge ones, though, too. Jay Leno. Reese Witherspoon? What a beautiful chin she has. Oh, my God. I want to hold that chin. The most adorable chin. Tuck it goodnight. Would you ever get a chin implant? No, I have considered getting my gums smaller.
Starting point is 00:40:37 Your gums smaller? Or bigger teeth. You Americans have massive teeth. They're all veneers. Everyone's got veneers. And I've got these tiny little milk teeth still. And so if I smile, and if you really make me smile, the upper lip sort of hides under itself.
Starting point is 00:40:56 And then all of a sudden you reveal this gargantuan amount of gum. That it's the wonder of you. Did you hang out with other guest Jamie Loftus at all in Edinburgh? I didn't see them because I actually lived outside of Edinburgh. Oh, did you? I'd come in, I'd do my show and I'd get out.
Starting point is 00:41:09 She's a veneers expert. Oh, yeah. She loves... She'll spot veneers like from literally three blocks away. She'll be like, someone's about to come
Starting point is 00:41:18 around the corner with veneers. You're like, how did you... Okay, whatever. That's your sad mutant powers. Yeah. She's like, it's not a useful superpower but it's a superpower but they um so anyways getting back to this politico article they uh it's written by somebody who's a graduate of liberty university and so
Starting point is 00:41:38 who has had it right well they've just they're a journalist they've written for the new york times and they are just dealing with contacts they have. Right, right, right, right, right. Anyways, the way that Jerry Falwell Jr. has chosen to deal with this is by trying to get the FBI to investigate the writing of the story because emails were leaked in connection with the story. That's your defense? That's his defense. How the heck did people find out what I say? Right. That's your defense? That's his defense.
Starting point is 00:42:05 How the heck did people find out what I say? Right. That's a crime, I think. And then the day after he said that that's how he was dealing with it, Reuters had some emails from him that they published where he called one student an emotionally imbalanced and physically retarded, and called the school's chief of police a halfwit who is easy to manipulate,
Starting point is 00:42:34 like a villain just bragging about how easy it is for them to get away with their crime. So there's also an amazing character named Trey, who is actually Jerry Falwell III. That's why he's called Trey. Oh, boy. with a hostel and always out at the clubs. Took a picture of $12,000 of cash on his hotel bed in Manhattan when he went up there with his homie to do a job for Michael Cohen back when he was part of Trump's organization. Had to delete that. There was also pictures of he and his dad partying at a Miami nightclub that they had to get, like, taken down off the internet. That might be the best moment in the story. So if you don't mind, I want to just read a couple excerpts from that. So there were images of Jerry Falwell Jr. and his son, Trey, like, going hard in a nightclub.
Starting point is 00:43:43 At a nightclub. Trey Falwell Jr. and his son Trey going hard in a nightclub. At a nightclub. On July 19, 2014, popular Swedish DJ John Dahlbach performed at Wall, a nightclub in Miami Beach. That night, the club happened to have a photographer on site to grab candid shots of the revelry. The photos were shared online by World Red Eye, an outlet that documents Miami's nightlife scene. And Jerry and Trey Falwell were visible in some of the pictures the outlet identified Trey by name. In a statement on August 21st, Jerry Falwell denied the existence of any photo of him at
Starting point is 00:44:15 the club. There was no picture snapped of me at Wall Nightclub or any other nightclub, Falwell wrote. I'm sure you already knew that, though. When told that I had obtained a photo of him for this article, Falwell said I was, quote, terribly mistaken. If you show me the picture, I can probably help you out, he wrote. I think you are making some incorrect assumptions or have been told false things or are seeing something that was photoshopped. The old, it's probably photoshopped.
Starting point is 00:44:44 After I sent him the photo photo as well as a photo of trey at wall fall well responded i never asked anyone to get rid of any pictures on the internet of me and i never have seen the picture you claim is of me below if the person in the picture is me it was likely photoshopped in a second email sent 23 minutes later, Falwell wrote, but the bigger question, Brandon, is why would I want a picture like that taken down if I had seen it? Oh, wow. Which doesn't really make sense. He's clearly spinning out. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:13 They include the picture. You can see Jerry Falwell just grinning stupidly amongst a bunch of 18-year-old fucking scene kids. He looks like they're on Molly or kids. He looks like he's there, like on Molly or something. He looks like he's gurning or something. He's like chewing on like a fucking cocktail straw. Like, Hey dude,
Starting point is 00:45:34 is a fucking, is there another set after this? Right. Uh, according to several people at direct knowledge of the situation, Falwell, the president of a conservative Christian college that, uh, frowns upon co-ed dancing,
Starting point is 00:45:46 parentheses, liberty students can receive demerits if seen co-ed dancing, and prohibits alcohol use, parentheses, for which students can be expelled. That is so Puritan. According to sources, he was angry that photos of him clubbing made it online. To remedy the situation, multiple liberty staffers said Falwell went to John Gager, 12 Gager, man, whom they characterize as his IT guy, and asked him to downgrade the photo's prominence on Google searches. Gager did not respond to requests for comment.
Starting point is 00:46:19 Gager has worked at Liberty since earning his MBA and is basically like his body man, has worked at Liberty since earning his MBA, and is basically like his body man. And Falwell essentially asked him to get them down in terms of their Google search ranking. He's like, Gager, you know how this SEO shit works, right? Or this Google fucking crap, dude? Just get rid of it.
Starting point is 00:46:38 Like those pictures of A-Rod with his shirt off. Right, exactly. They did a great job. It's hard to find those pics. Gager has also run Redfinch LLC, an online business he founded that specializes in search engine optimization, and Liberty paid Redfinch $123,000 in 2016. So that's like the sort of underhanded like self-dealing shit that they do. They have employees of Liberty University
Starting point is 00:47:07 who then have their own companies that Liberty then pays out shit loads of money to. There's also a lot of stuff where they are doing things that are blatantly like in favor of Trump. For instance, they changed the day that finals were on during an election year because they wanted kids and like
Starting point is 00:47:27 told kids to go out and vote conservative hey you can't do that yes well good to know that like but i mean yeah that's what scummy people do it's just like what trump does like anybody who's running a fucking you know uh a below board business you're like yeah i got fixtures on payroll well they have a consulting company i pay out i call it i tell people he's my it guy meanwhile he's the person who scrubs the internet of like damaging shit about us yeah but uh if he's so worried about the photo can't he just sharpie himself out of it right exactly yeah exactly he's like i know you're deeply mistaken took care of it i didn't realize the sharpie was such a powerful tool in american politics oh hell yeah man yeah dude you know what they say the sharpie was such a powerful tool in american politics oh hell yeah man yeah
Starting point is 00:48:05 dude you know what they say the sharpie's mightier they do say that uh let's talk about this russian spy who trump outed or indirectly right so we talked last week about how that that weird meeting in the oval office with two russian officials everyone's like what the hell was that and then he gave away some intelligence secrets about someone who had infiltrated ISIS in Syria, blah, blah, blah. That essentially led to this revelation that the CIA had cultivated a spy in the Kremlin who had got to the point where he could just see shit on Putin's desk. That's how deep this guy got. And eventually it was the person who confirmed to the CIA that yes, it was in fact vladimir putin who had ordered the election meddling like i heard like i was there that's told that's how deep i'm in this shit right so when he um was basically you
Starting point is 00:48:55 know sort of outed in this thing no one really thought anything of it but i think as a story came out and they realized just how deep you know the cia had was able to you know uh cultivate somebody or plant somebody they being the kremlin the kremlin yeah they started getting shook first they were just sort of being like oh that's that's a lie dude that wouldn't us no no we're spy proof and then to them reaching out to fucking interpolate study this case and try and find him sure uh we know what this means right whenever someone crosses putin in public and they fuck off to another country all bets are usually off we've seen in the uk happen we've seen it happen in many other places where people suddenly get sick on a bench yeah or
Starting point is 00:49:37 some shit get stuck with an umbrella or something drink after this dude i wouldn't recommend it right and that's why again it was sort of a bit of a of debacle because like the news is the one who leaked his name out there every all the reports before just like this asset this asset what's acid like kendall anion i believe like went to his house from nbc and it was like this is the guy's house we won't say his name but mother savvy people can start putting shit together and eventually his name got out and i think once that happened that specificity made the shame i think real because obviously the kremlin knew this guy was a spy because he was like he was extracted during a family vacation
Starting point is 00:50:16 in montenegro like that's when they got they were like you know what dude he's out of russia right now we think trump might fucking like totally blow this guy's cover or who knows. Let's get him out. Brought him to the US. And now his name's there out there out loud. And now you're. He's in the States right now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:33 What a brilliantly terrifying life. Right. Yeah. Being a spy. I've always sort of fantasized about being a spy. Sure. Especially as an actor. Right.
Starting point is 00:50:42 I can get into any role. Right. Right. Like maybe get into the Kremlin i do not know yeah uh but the the terrifying truth is that like oh you're not on set like this is an actual office that will kill you yeah right exactly and you look at all those people that you know on just sort of without any kind of or no consequence but to them they act just unimpeded to be like i don't care what country you're in we will we will come onto your country's soil and do our work and i think that's the concern is that like if this guy's in the u.s much like how in the uk things have happened and you
Starting point is 00:51:15 know like a lot of the intelligence agencies they're like this is russia but also how do we know it's not a double bluff right you you know what what if he what if he was turned in that office you know i saw things on vladimir put Putin's desk like a better offer, you know? Right, right, right, right, right. And if the US can get someone, you know, that high up, could it not be feasible that there are some high up in the White House? Oh, yeah. As high as the president, perhaps?
Starting point is 00:51:41 Or, yeah, an unintentional asset that they found a willing idiot to go along with. But again, I think this is where it can get tricky. Right. Because that would be a real international event. If this person who was a it's an intelligence asset who's in the US is somehow being attacked on within the borders of the United States by a foreign country. You know what's going to happen? If Trump's in office, he'll be like, honestly, I don't like spies. Right.
Starting point is 00:52:09 And in all fairness, then you play the other hand, right? You go, well, America did put a spy in that country. So then it's like, where does it stop? And also, let's be real. The US isn't coming after people on other people's soil? Hmm. Right. I mean, that's the bigger picture.
Starting point is 00:52:25 However, if we're just looking at this. Like Russia are doing it in China, like that becomes an international incident. I think we did do it with a Chinese spy, like something, a Huawei executive maybe in China where we like pulled them off of a plane and like that became a whole thing. So like doing it on one of the major powers' soil is a big deal.
Starting point is 00:52:47 That's why the killing of that person in the UK was a big deal. And if they fuck with this person, it'll be bad for the world. Quick shout out to the CIA or MI5. If you are looking for someone to spy, you know how I travel internationally doing stand-up and acting, you know, my cover is already set. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:11 I'm constantly in hotels making notes on my little notepad for jokes. Hire me. Or since you're Francophone, the DGSE. Ah, I didn't know. Which is the French CIA.
Starting point is 00:53:23 Merci beaucoup. Yeah. The Directeurate Général for External Security. Ah, I didn't know. Which is the French CIA. Ah, merci beaucoup. Yeah, the Directorate Générale for External Security. All right, we're going to take a quick break. We're going to be right back, ma'am. Daphne Caruana Galizia was a Maltese investigative journalist who on October 16th 2017 was murdered. There are crooks everywhere you look now. The situation is desperate.
Starting point is 00:53:55 My name is Manuel Delia. I am one of the hosts of Crooks Everywhere, a podcast that unhearts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. a podcast that unhurts the plot to murder a one-woman Wikileaks. Daphne exposed the culture of crime and corruption that were turning her beloved country into a mafia state. And she paid the ultimate price. Listen to Crooks everywhere on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Gianna Prudente. And I'm Jemay Jackson-Gadsden.
Starting point is 00:54:35 We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions, like how do I speak up when I'm feeling overwhelmed? Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week we answer your unfiltered work questions. Think of us as your work besties you can turn to for advice. And if we don't know the answer, we bring in experts who do, like resume specialist Morgan Saner. The only difference between the person who doesn't get the job and the person who gets the job is usually who applies. Yeah, I think a lot about that quote. What is it like you miss 100% of
Starting point is 00:55:13 the shots you never take? Yeah, rejection is scary, but it's better than you rejecting yourself. Together, we'll share what it really takes to thrive in the early years of your career without sacrificing your sanity or sleep. Listen to Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them boys. I just come
Starting point is 00:55:53 here to play basketball every single day and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports. Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better.
Starting point is 00:56:23 This new season will cover all things sports and culture. Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. I'm Keri Champion, and this is season four of Naked Sports, where we live at the intersection of sports and culture. Up first, I explore the making of a rivalry, Kaitlyn Clark versus Angel Reese. I know I'll go down in history. People are talking about women's basketball just because of one single game. Every great player needs a foil. I ain't really near them. Why is that? Just come here and play basketball every single day, and that's what I focus on. From college to the pros, Clark and Reese have changed the way we consume women's sports.
Starting point is 00:57:01 Angel Reese is a joy to watch. She is braggadocious. She is unapologetically black. I love her. What exactly ignited this fire? Why has it been so good for the game? And can the fanfare surrounding these two supernovas be sustained? This game is only going to get better because the talent is getting better. Listen to making of a rivalry caitlin clark versus angel reese on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast
Starting point is 00:57:30 and we're back and we're john doll back uh apparently that dj is so sick dude so sick were John Dahl back. Ooh. Apparently that DJ is... So sick, dude. So sick. DJ Danil. DJ Danil. He invented that drop. That's what it sounds like when a DJ orgasms. Let's talk about the Ig Nobel Prize,
Starting point is 00:57:58 the Spoof Nobel Prize. Okay, I did not know this was a thing. Yeah, they honor achievements that first make people laugh and then make them think. Okay, further establishing my ignorance. Didn't know it started in 1991. It's been around this long. Were there any...
Starting point is 00:58:14 So again, this whole thing, I loved reading about it because the whole thing is just a big joke and bit, but also with science that people are having fun with it. and bit, but also with science that people are like, you know, having fun with it. There's a word ceremony features, mini operas, scientific demos, and the 24-7 lectures whereby experts must explain their work twice, once in 24 seconds, and the second in just seven words, 24-7. Yeah. And I didn't realize how jokey yet serious a lot of the research was. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Yeah, essentially that's why you haven't heard of it. It's not technically life-changing science, but it's just fun that someone decided to do it. You know, there's 8 billion of us on the planet. One person's got time to maybe do something really stupid that we don't need, but that once we know, oh, that's cool. Yeah, and could set off a whole other chain of thought research. Yeah, absolutely yeah i went to see one of the award ceremonies in london a few years back oh did you yeah yeah um and it was about this guy that won measured the testicle lengths uh of both
Starting point is 00:59:17 the right and left testicles on statues uh around europe and stuff so uh which one dangles the most and it was quite funny that, you know, he did some measuring of all the statues and their balls. Right. And why one would hang more than the other and on which one and how would they know? Do nude statues of Zeus like have big or like Moses? Are you going to say big old balls?
Starting point is 00:59:39 Do they have big old balls? I don't know. I think that they're like, you know, they're pretty sort of normal. Zeus balls. Yeah. I just wonder because old men balls. Like I've been in a YMCA changing room.
Starting point is 00:59:52 I've seen some balls that, you know, dangle to knee length. No, they're sort of like the meal, you know, on a cold day, they're nice and wrapped. Right. As if it looked like one ball. Well, this was funny because one of the prizes is almost a follow-up to the question of testicular balance. These first couple really made me think.
Starting point is 01:00:11 Let's start off with physics because this is a question I actually recently had. So physics ignoble prize was for studying how and why wombats make cube-shaped poo we have a rabbit who uh our neighbors have a rabbit that gets loose in our yard all the time and uh shits out all these tiny little perfectly round pebbles uh and i mean that's what rabbit shit is. And I have spent a lot of time picking that up and wondering what about their anatomy makes, like, is that, is there something evolutionarily beneficial to having round poop?
Starting point is 01:00:56 Like, does it smell less? So predators shaped or something. Right. Well, I did wonder when you said cubed, I wonder if like, if it falls,
Starting point is 01:01:04 it means that it doesn't roll away. Well, this is what it looks like. cubed, I wonder if it falls, it means that it doesn't roll away. Well, this is what it looks like. Yeah, so if it's a cubed poo, then it would just stay in position. Well, a ball one, for example, the dung beetle, it's a ball and it can push it around, but a square, you don't have square wheels on a skateboard. It's the building blocks of a shitty house.
Starting point is 01:01:20 Right. I think, well, the conclusion they came to was really about the shape and flexibility of the intestines of a wombat. Right. I think, well, what they, the answer, well, the conclusion they came to was really about the shape and flexibility of the intestines of a wombat. Right. And then also dry environments that they live in. So, I mean, I guess what the knock-on effect of this research is that it could help for manufacturing industries to kind of like, you know, find new techniques for creating cube-shaped products. Right. I guess. Yeah, I guess they weren't looking into evolutionary biology. Could you imagine if they were making little shit glues? Right.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Like igloos with their cube-shaped shits. They could, like, stack in there. They're really beautifully cube-shaped. They do a good job. They look like, I'm trying to think of what it is, like a Hi-Chew candy that was in your pocket for a little too long. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's slightly melted, but it's solidified.
Starting point is 01:02:07 It's not perfect, angularly speaking, but you get the gist. Yeah. I think I'm right about rabbit poop because Sphere has the least surface area. Boom. Great. It just slides out, right?
Starting point is 01:02:18 So let's... Just credit to you. You've won the Ig Nobel Prize for solving that. It probably smells less. There's less of it on the outside to smell. So, you know, they, because like that is one way that predators will track prey is based on like the scent of their shit. I just picture you looking at this rabbit shit, like in your backyard, like a magnifying
Starting point is 01:02:39 glass and you're like, hmm, really thinking about it. Sarah's like, Jack, what are you doing? Get in the house. I'm doing research. Okay. Why is it round? What could it be? Don't rabbits also eat their own poop?
Starting point is 01:02:52 And so wouldn't it be easier to eat spherical food rather than cute ones? I know dogs eat... Cat shit. Puppies eat their own shit. Oh. And that's because it's very... That's how I knew the thing about predators tracking based on... Yeah, I's very that's how i knew the thing about uh predators tracking based
Starting point is 01:03:06 on yeah i know that's how you knew it's because their uh milky poo smells very strongly and makes it very easy to track puppies so that's why they uh adapted oh wow um habit of eating puppy poop katie golden from creature feature informed me because my dog was eating cat shit. Yeah. Is that there's a high fat content. Right. Cat droppings, which makes it delicious to a dog somehow. Yeah. And a good spread.
Starting point is 01:03:31 Not just dogs, humans. Oh, great. Oh, Super Producer Anna Hosnia asked me if I eat the rabbit poop and I do not.
Starting point is 01:03:38 He tastes them. Right. He doesn't eat them. Big difference. Yeah. And then rinses his mouth out immediately. Right. The thing I do want to say, like you're talking about, testicles is back for the anatomy prize.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Oh, testicles is back. They're back, baby. The prize went to these researchers who actually, I think they're French because they were studying young French postmen for this study to figure out the scrotal temperature and asymmetry in naked and clothed postmen in France was the award. That is so beautifully specific. Wait, do your balls change shape based on whether you're naked or clothed? I think they were just trying to see, like, if you have clothes on, is there maybe some heat feedback? Like, what's that do to your ball temperature, your sack temp?
Starting point is 01:04:22 What's that do to your ball temperature, your sack temp? By the way, gentlemen, have you ever, when laying in bed naked, and you've let someone sort of rub their hand from your ankle up to your groinage area? Yeah, I pee everywhere. Is that what you're saying? No. Wow. My bad.
Starting point is 01:04:40 What were you going to say? Well, as you move the hand up, as you get to around the knee, the ball very quickly hides back in its hole. Have you ever done that before? No. Oh, like preservation mechanism? Yeah, it's like if an insect or a snake went up your leg, your balls protect itself. Immediately retreat?
Starting point is 01:04:58 It's very difficult to do it yourself, but you can do. But ultimately, yourself, your brain goes, well, that's my hand, so that's why I'm not scared. That's why I've got to do the stranger the stranger yeah if you get someone else to just rub rub your leg very gently right right your balls go in it's a really quite wonderful thing to do between two lovers so this is the thing what they're saying is like you were saying when you're asking about the drop length of the scrotum yeah and the testicles within the scrotum there okay so it is that that has been researched and they think it's probably to prevent collision between
Starting point is 01:05:27 the two testicles or maybe have more effective cooling. But it seemed like something with the left one at a higher rate was typically the hotter ball. Left is hotter ball. Yeah. On average. I mean, look, again, these aren't real studies. These are more like- No, they are real studies. I mean, they are, but is hotter ball. Yeah. On average. I mean, look again, these aren't, these aren't real studies. These are more like, I mean, they are, but not in the way that they could have said,
Starting point is 01:05:51 I sort of like unequivocally that it's like that, but yeah. Did you know that the David, uh, Michelangelo's the David has a, I like that you call him the David. The David, uh, has a small penis because he's supposed to be about to fight. Goliath. Goliath. Yeah. It's like supposed to be right before.
Starting point is 01:06:09 And you can like, if you get up close, his eyes are like really wide. Like, oh yeah. Yeah. His pupils are really large. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:15 And his like, all his like vascular structures, like really like flush. Yeah. So like, that's why, like he doesn't just have a small penis. It's like Michelangelo.
Starting point is 01:06:25 It's not just a small penis. Michelangelo is like this is, you know, he's got the. Yeah, it's the moment. Pulled in because he's feeling fear. It's supposed to be a man in fear. Oh, that makes so much sense. Yeah. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 01:06:34 Thanks for that. Speaking of Italy, the prize in medicine was given to people who were collecting evidence that pizza might protect against illness and death if the pizza is made and eaten in Italy. I mean, this just sounds like it was done to cue up one of your stories. No, it's not, because that would be Naples, the home of really good pizza. But this is neither here nor there. The deal is, these researchers started in 2003, where they investigated whether ingesting Italian pizza can protect against cancer.
Starting point is 01:07:06 That's the biggest thing. Then 2004, whether pizza could offset the risk of acute myocardial infarction. And in 2006, again, they built on their work in 2003 to study whether eating pizza reduced the risk of breast, ovarian, and prostate cancer. They were all basically like, there's no way for us to know. But we did just sort of test these people who ate pizza in Italy. Right. I wonder if they considered the placebo effect
Starting point is 01:07:30 of eating a pizza in Italy. Because if you're going to Italy, you know, you want to eat some spaghetti. You want to eat a pizza because you're in Italy. When in Rome, right? And so the joy of eating a pizza in Italy, in front of the Colosseum, might bring you so much more extra joy
Starting point is 01:07:44 than just eating a pizza out of a Ralph's freezer. Without warming it up. That maybe is just frozen. Just right there in the Ralph's freezer aisle. Fuck it. This red bear in it can eat itself. I do wonder if this has something to do
Starting point is 01:08:00 with this just being like peak human joy. That or the Mediterranean diet or, you know, whatever that could be. Right. I mean. It just seems weirdly specific. I think that's what they should have done is test people who might not, who aren't Italian. Right. Because then there's a little bit of more wonder and whimsy for being in Italy and seeing if that gives something to people.
Starting point is 01:08:22 I would love it if, you know, I say love it. in Italy and seeing if that gives something to people. I would love it if, you know, I say love it, you know, if someone had cancer in Italy and just went to a doctor and went, oh, well, I can prescribe you a nice margarita. It's like, oh, thank you, sir. It's like, this is, are they just like trying to create Italian jokes, bring back Italian jokes, jokes by Italian people? All right. Let's talk about the medical education one.
Starting point is 01:08:44 Okay. I think this was interesting because this one was about using a simple – like a clicker, like clicker training for animals. Like a popovium thing. If that can train surgeons to perform orthopedic surgery. And so what they want to do is two specific surgical tasks, tying the locking sliding knot and making a low-angle drill hole. And what they did was just sort of using the effectiveness of this clicker. That's usually for animals, but the clicker serves as a conditioned reinforcer that communicates in a way
Starting point is 01:09:12 that is language and judgment free. So the result was the clicker trained group of medical students took more time to learn the tasks than the control group, but they were better at performing the tasks precisely. And if you're talking about surgery, baby, it's all precision. So next time you go into any kind of orthopedic surgery, ask if they've been clicker trained. But also, isn't that just hypnosis?
Starting point is 01:09:34 I mean, that's what hypnotists are. They sort of click you, and it sort of gives you a sense of tempo in your mind, even if you don't really realize it. It subconsciously keeps track of time. Well, I don't know if it's meant it's about tempo more so like if one of the mistakes made or you do well you hear the clicker to just sort of create that connection oral uh reinforcement or something right yeah but that
Starting point is 01:09:56 isn't that that's a form of hypnosis is what i'm saying yeah hell yeah man i don't know man look i'm just i don't even i didn't know about the ignobles until right now. I'm ignorant, okay? Or ignorante, as they say in Italy. Well, shit. Eric, it's been a pleasure having you, man. Thanks for having me, guys. You're a real artist, man. You've been drawing really cool shit this whole time. Can we sell this?
Starting point is 01:10:16 Yeah, you can have it. For charity? Yeah, to charity if you want. Yeah, sure. Where can people find you, follow you? My name is Eric Lampert. Find me on Instagram because I hate Twitter or Facebook. I've also got an album, Alien of Extraordinary Ability.
Starting point is 01:10:30 You can buy it, but if not, it's free on Spotify. I have a show called Born of Chaos, which I'm doing in Los Angeles on the 26th of September and 24th of October at the Broadwater Theatre. And it's mainly comedy, but there is some tragedy. So I'm enjoying I really genuinely it was the show that I did at the Edinburgh Festival
Starting point is 01:10:48 and I'm I'd say for the first time in my career proud of a project does that make sense that's great not first time but like
Starting point is 01:10:54 before the shows were good you know the shows were funny like Alien of Extraordinary Ability the album yeah it's funny but it's not really saying anything it's just a good hour I mean that is the blurb
Starting point is 01:11:04 on the cover right what not really saying anything it's funny it's not really saying anything. It's just a good hour. I mean, that is the blurb on the cover, right? Not really saying anything, but it'll make you laugh. So this is the show I'm proud. So I would love it. Congrats, man.
Starting point is 01:11:15 I know. Yeah. It's tough when you're a creator because sometimes you don't allow yourself to like sort of pat yourself on the back or feel fully confident in some of the work you made. So yeah. Yeah. So it feels good.
Starting point is 01:11:25 I applaud you for experiencing that. And for Boise, we did a show called Comedian Cinema Club where we recreate movies live on stage. We did Princess Bride and it was sold out. And so we decided to come back. So we're back on the 11th of January to do Labyrinth. Where? In Boise?
Starting point is 01:11:40 In Boise. And then we're hopefully going to be doing a little tour around the Midwest and Chicago and stuff like that. That would be sick. If you want to see comedians getting drunk and recreate movies, get in touch with me. Love you. Are you going to be David Bowie? Oh, yeah, of course I'll be David.
Starting point is 01:11:55 All right, man. Oh, tra-la-la. What did Boise do to deserve this? This masterful comedy. Well, I just got invited to the 208 Comedy Festival, and I just brought my humor, and turns out the Americans like it. Ooh. I'll see you.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Is there a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, no. No. Okay. Is there anything on social media? I honestly don't like Twitter. In fact, I only now follow six people, and they're all cinema-based things
Starting point is 01:12:27 because it got a little bit too much. I'm trying to be aware of the things that are going on in the world while at the same time having to try and take care of my mental health. And if I keep reading stuff about Brexit and Trump and stuff, it becomes very difficult because I'm like, Trump and Boris and other people around the world are a bunch of C words. Right.
Starting point is 01:12:46 You're filling the chaos bucket in your subconscious with the media. Yeah. So I'm just trying to just chill out and Twitter is never, I think, about a good place for that.
Starting point is 01:12:55 That's what I got to listen to the daily Zach guys. That's true. Miles, where can people find you and is there a tweet? You've been enjoying. Oh boy.
Starting point is 01:13:02 Watch out guys. Twitter and Instagram. Hold on to your buttholes in particular. Because the poo that's coming out is not round or cubicle. No. It's a mess, brother. It's a mess. It's loose, baby.
Starting point is 01:13:16 The stool is loose. Shout out to Dr. Lisa Swan for identifying the problem. Now, let's see. At Miles Gray Twitter, Instagram. Some tweets I like. At Molly Lambert. Thank God being a redhead exempts me from the, are you the blonde scammer or the brunette scammer binary?
Starting point is 01:13:34 In parentheses, all redheads are scammers. Then there was another one from, so, you know, with that whole fiasco with Shane Racist, whatever the fuck that dude's name is, who was really racist. Yeah. Uh, coming with the, all the really just hilarious border boundary pushing racist, uh, comedy. Andrew T was quoting, he said like, he tweeted about it. He said, who is going to be the first one to write the Rob Schneider, Asian erasure
Starting point is 01:14:02 hot take. But deep down someone who's listening, listening, this is Dylan Clark Moore. I think who listens to the show as well. At Dylan Clark Moore said, I keep hearing this in the Ninja Turtles theme. And he wrote it as the logo. And it says, Rob Schneider Asian erasure. Oh, man. Heroes that are half Asian.
Starting point is 01:14:21 Turtle power. Or he's actually a quarter. But he's measuring, hey? Yeah, you know, look, we're not here to check blood quantum. Some tweets I've been enjoying. Megan Amran just retweeted one of her old tweets
Starting point is 01:14:36 with the word important. And her old tweet was, yeah, sure, I like sorkin'. Sorkin' my own dick. Which is one of the most important tweets of all time I think Aaron would appreciate a well phrased tweet and then
Starting point is 01:14:55 went to a drill said I love saying shit like yeah this kittens got claws whenever a woman stabs me 38 times in the neck and chest you can find me on Twitter You can find us on Twitter We're at The Daily Zeitgeist On Instagram
Starting point is 01:15:13 We have a Facebook fan page And a website DailyZeitgeist.com Where we post our episodes And our footnotes That's how I talk now that we have 100 episodes out Bitches 100 seasons dog doggy.
Starting point is 01:15:26 100 seasons, 500 episodes. That's what it is. Blake... Sorry, I wanted to... There was another tweet that I was looking for that I found. Blake Wexler tweeted things I most often mumble to myself on a daily basis.
Starting point is 01:15:42 One, goddammit. Two, Jesus fucking Christ. Three, holy damn it. Two, Jesus fucking Christ. Three, holy God damn shit. Four, nice bangs, idiot. Five, oh my fucking God. I have four of those. I do not say holy God damn shit under my breath, but all the other ones.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Nice bangs, idiot? Yeah, nice bangs, idiot. Nice bangs, idiot. Nice bangs, idiot. I'm trying to think of what the fuck. Like in what context would you sincerely say, man, nice bangs, dude. Like, are you like a competitive hairstylist
Starting point is 01:16:08 and someone else gets a prize? Yeah, it sounds like an 80s movie. Hey, nice bangs, idiot. Yeah, good one, boss. Yeah, got him. Oh, also, Mike Drucker inspired my AKA today with this tweet. Joker should end with him getting a serious XM show where he just complains about being silenced uh and i think that's probably gonna happen with this snl fucker uh what song are
Starting point is 01:16:31 we gonna write out on oh oh oh a song we're writing on today is um a track called one day you just grape stomping lady oh oh oh oh oh, oh. And it's from an artist called Smeul. I don't know how to. S-M-E. Smeul. S-M-E. It's one day by Smeul. One day.
Starting point is 01:16:55 To get his new album. Precious. Out now. S-M-E-Y-E-U-L, period. And it's called One Day. It's just a very, look, it's a head nod sort of Dilla jazz sample instrumental track, but the chord progression, I don't know if you like to sing, it almost makes you want to sing
Starting point is 01:17:12 over it. That's why I like it. Look, we all know how much I like to sing. And not well. But anyway, One Day, Smay You Well, Smeagol, whatever you want to call them, Bilbo Baggins, Trilbo Swaggins, we're out. This specifically makes you want to sing Nickelback over it, right? No comment.
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