The Daily Zeitgeist - Fascists R People 2, Dudes ARE Gross? 05.10.22

Episode Date: May 10, 2022

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Listen to Naked Sports on the Black Effect Podcast Network, iHeartRadio apps, or wherever you get your podcasts. The Black Effect Podcast Network is sponsored by Diet Coke. Hello, the internet, and welcome to season 236, episode 2 of Dirt Daily Zeitgeist, a production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Tuesday, May 10th, 2022, which of course means it is National Lipid Day. Yeah. Yeah.

Shout out to that element that is in our blood is that correct our lipids uh like fat and cholesterol but i think this one is about like raising awareness so you know making sure you got you know make sure you get your lipids in check take a walk you know talk to your physician enough lipids yeah check it out you got enough got too many but get into it i thought it was a day to just you know house a bunch of bacon and egg yolks yeah i was trying to boost my lipids yeah for lipid day you take you you separate the whites from the yolks you just put all the yolks in a blender render all the fat from three packs of bacon into a cooking sheet and dump that into the egg yolks oh i told you my recipe.

Oh, shit. I thought that was okay. That's when I told you I was doing Peloton. You're like, oh, you're trying to get big? Oh, you should use my method. I was like, I don't know if we're going for the same thing right now. I just kind of generally need to get in my cardiovascular. Bacon fat.

That is the secret. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. That is the secret. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. When the law's codified, but the court says denied, that's a bullshit.

That is courtesy of at Ruthless Fudge on Twitter. And I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Oh, it's Miles Gray, but you already know that it was Jan 6, 2020, treason time jan 6 2020 treason time all right shout out to ludwig von drake for that one you had a whole verse i'm sorry i have to let people know you did write an entire verse to 8 6 7 5 3 0 9 but it was about jenny thomas

clarence thomas's wife as it related to the january 6th insurrection i only had the energy and breath to do the chorus but thank you for that contribution beautiful beautiful work well miles we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by a very talented writer stand-up comedian podcast host of the bechdel cast podcast, which takes down the patriarchy one movie at a time. She also happens to have a master's degree in film and the most anagrammable name in the English language. Oh, yes. So depending on whether you've been given her name

on an assortment of Scrabble tiles, you might know her as Nine Tit Dracula, Latin Dancer UTI. But in our hearts, she will always be Caitlin Durante! Thank you so much. A.K.A. Canine Tail Turd. Yes, those are the worst. When the tail gets too fluffy, when the tail gets too fluffy,

and then there's a little surprise waiting when you go to comb it out. That's like a real thing. That's a dog's dingleberry, yeah. Like Latin dancer UTI, that's not touching on anything. Nine-Tit Dracula either. Not to, you know, cast aspersions on those fantastic names, but dog, wait, was it canine tail turd? Canine tail turd.

I can, the merch is making itself. It's beautiful. And that's courtesy of, oh, sorry, i just want to give credit where credit is due that's courtesy of andy townshend aka flump on the discord i hope that information is still all correct because this was shared with me oh some some months ago but oh okay good good you had it you were just sitting on that yeah Yeah. Like a dog with a canine tail turd? You were just sitting on canine tail turd? This whole time? She's ready.

She got that thing on her, man. Run up, get done up with a dog turd. Caitlin, I got to ask you. I didn't see the movie, but when I saw the trailer, I said, I have to know what Caitlin thinks of this. The unbearable weight of, was it Massive Talent? Yes. The Nick Cage film? caitlin thinks of this the unbearable weight of was it massive talent yes the nick cage film only and you know i'm asking why i want to talk to you because from the only thing i really gleaned

from that film is there is an energetic debate over paddington 2 being the best film of all time correct so pedro pascal's character deems it his third favorite movie of all time which he's insufficient about because it's should be number one sure but they then and then nicholas cage is like what are you talking about that's ridiculous and then they watch it together and then they're both in tears and saying like paddington 2 is incredible and he's like i told you and then there's a callback toward it there's a callback to it later on in the film so multiple paddington two references obviously the best part of the entire movie the movie itself is pretty fun you know it's a it's a fun romp but the paddington two references really elevate it to to something

great that they they know what they're doing that this is for the culture exactly you know absolutely and they take it seriously it's not like a joke where like he's he's dumb because he likes paddington no it's like he he actually knows we we respect these characters more because they acknowledge the greatness of paddington too yeah what the fuck i'm in my mind yet miles or jack like oh that's the next one i think i'm gonna go i might see in a theater it's not streaming yet What the fuck? Have you seen it yet, Miles or Jack? No, I'm going to. Oh, that's the next one I think I might see in a theater. It's not streaming yet, right?

I'm talking about Paddington 2. I don't give a shit about... Oh, I want to see the debate. I'm asking you, Miles, if you've seen Paddington 2 yet. I know it's the beginning of the week, but you got to get your head straight, man. We're talking about Paddington 2, man. You're all fucking... You're upside down on all this shit man try to keep up motherfucker have you seen it no i fucked up oh you promised you made a promise to me i know and you know

and it was a hard time i was voting for joe biden around then i was doing all kinds of stuff i normally wouldn't do. Right. Going against a lot of things I believe. And I apologize that is my failure that I will own and I will rectify it by the time I, you know what? Miles. Not even on mic. I will see it before I even record with you on Wednesday.

What? Right because we are recording a Bechtelcast episode with Miles on. And I'm not going to step in there. So this is not that big of a promise. No, it's not on Paddington 2. That would be amazing. You're like, I promise. And then you show up and you're like,

ah, sorry. All right, Kaylin. Jamie, I kind of fucked up that again. Hey, I fucked up. I fucked up, man. I watched the ultimatum for a third time in a row. All the way through. I don't know what's wrong with me.

Oh, man. Oh, goodness. If I had a Paddington 2 screening party, would you come? Yes. Okay. Maybe I'll just host that. I'll have a Paddington 2 screening party. Fuck it.

To make up for it, can I go to AMC and then rent out the theater, have a private screening of Paddington 2 on their screen? Yeah, please do that. I feel like that's the only way I can make up for this. To be honest. I'm like acting like a stepdad who forgot about their stepkid's birthday. And now I'm going to go way overboard because I

fucked up materially. So to make up for my lack of emotional contributions. When you have an opinion that is like correct but lesser known and then like people kind of start to come around on it i feel like it can go a couple of different ways how like when that was on screen in the movie they were basically doing the same thing that you've been doing for for. How did that feel?

Did you feel honored? Did you just feel like, okay, there is some truth in the universe? Well, I already knew about the truth of the universe and the truth being that Paddington 2 is the greatest film of all time. I did feel validated. It did feel like they were kind of cosplaying as me. So that kind of makes me sort of like a superhero. Yeah.

Because you cosplay superheroes. So I really did feel like a hero. Yeah, you are. And a soldier. And have the filmmakers commented on whether that was explicit subtext, like them cosplaying as you? Well, because I can take sole credit for being the only person. For Paddington 2 being good, the observation that it's a great film. I believe it, honestly, in my heart.

I am always curious because when I was younger and somebody really liked a band and then the people found out about the band the people who originally liked it would be like nah fuck that I don't like the band anymore now that everybody else likes the band I feel like that has become less of a popular position they would be like they sold out right because that always baffled me because you're basically operating under the same principle or ideology as like conformity, where you're letting other people's opinion influence how you feel about something. No, no, it's not that. It's just that I'm not cool anymore for liking this obscure band. And now that they're now everyone's like, objectively, they're a good band. I'm like, oh, fuck. Yeah, the obscurity was the thing, apparently, they're a good band. I'm like, oh, fuck. Yeah. The obscurity was the thing, apparently, that they liked about it. My whole personality was liking things people don't know about.

Mm-hmm. And rejecting things that are widely accepted. And that's still a major thing in fan culture with people who are like, well, I was into Marvel before there was MCU. I was into Marvel before there was MCU, and everything you say about it is going to annoy me now that there are such things as casual fans. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a few people who, like family friends who got me into comics, who I hear the way they talk about Marvel now is truly on something. I'm like, bro, I was living that shit page by page, man. Before fucking Jon Favreau came along. Have either of you seen Doctor Strange? Speaking of Marvel MCU.

Oh, no. I've seen, I think, three MCU films in my whole life. Oh, right. I forget this about you. Yeah. I'm wildly inconsistent with the kinds of things I watch. I've not seen it. I was a little scared off by the title.

That sounds like a lot of Doctor Strange in the multiverse of madness. Yeah. I don't like conflict. I don't like madness when people are mad at me or the universe seems... A strange doctor? A strange doctor? Get me out of here, man.

No, sir. I want my doctors to be not strange. Straight down the middle and trustworthy. Yeah. Where's Doctor Trusting Eyes? I want my doctors to be not strange Straight down the middle and trustworthy Yeah Where's Dr. Trusting Eyes? All I know is that there's no There are no Paddington 2 references In Doctor Strange In Multiverse of Madness

So it's not really a good movie Which is disappointing To everyone Caitlin, we think, to everyone. All right, Caitlin, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We are going to take a look at some, like somebody did a report on just a couple of policy pieces in the BBB, the Build Back Better, and how they evolved and how Democrats responded. I think it's a very illuminating look at how the Democratic Party works functionally. We're going to look at the media continuing to not really know how to react to the leaked opinion that is going to overturn Roe v. Wade this summer.

The, you know, Miles, you pulled this opinion piece. I'm pro-choice, but I don't think pro-lifers are bad people is the headline. Thank you, New York Times. Yes. There's also a front page story on the Sunday New York Times that is all about like, you know, tracking this journey that anti-choice people have been on from a, yep, they said it, grassroots movement through to this being actually legislation. So we'll talk about all of that. And we'll talk about a new study that has some pretty interesting things to say about whether dudes are fucking gross or not. You're not going to believe this shit. Can't wait.

Yeah. That's probably going to be the most shocking thing we're going to say this episode, just to prepare the listeners. All of that shit. But before we get to any of it, Caitlin, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history?

Okay, here's what i looked up i wanted to know when is shrek 5 coming out okay and i have no further information i found uh so if you go on imdb and you look at shrek 5, the result is Shrek 5 colon Donkey Face Killer. It came out in 2012 already, so that's not it. Shrek, there's a thing called Hans Magazine, and it says that it's supposed to be released in September 2022. I cannot substantiate this information. There is something published on Looper.com about Shrek 5 that it was supposed to come out in 2021. And basically, I don't even know if this damn thing's happening or not, but I'm holding out hope.

This was a thing that was promised to the people of Shrek fandom. And now it's just kind of one of those things like, hey, what happened to that fucking movie you talked about years ago? I'm pretty sure. Yeah. It was in the works and now it's not really in the works. It's promised to the universe. The multiverse, even. Yeah. promised to the universe like with the with the multiverse yeah like the i think the way that the world has evolved closer to the truth as we saw with you know people waking up to paddington 2

right you know the universe has also evolved so that there is a shrek 5 shaped hole where shrek 5 should be and right we we we need to stay on. We need to stay on this. We need to stay on this story. I actually, so there was Shrek 1. Of course. Shrek 2. Who can forget? How do we start?

But are we counting like Puss in Boots and stuff like that as Shrek 4? No. No, because there is a Shrek 4 in existence. Yeah. There is. But isn't it like a punny name? Like forever...

Shrek Forever After. Oh, right, right, right. Got it. Okay. Oh, damn. It's been... So, yeah, the people are waiting. Yeah, I'm waiting patiently.

I need... And granted, I haven't seen Shrek 4, so I'm behind, but... Like, I don't know. It might be terrible. But we're Shrek 5. I will take comfort in't seen Shrek 4, so I'm behind. Like, I don't know. It might be terrible. But we're Shrek 5. I will take comfort in knowing that Shrek 5 exists in the world for people to see. Yeah.

And it doesn't yet, so. I think we need to come at the guy that I just saw an article that one of the people who wrote Austin Powers potentially wrote the Shrek 5 script. Oh. And said it was a reinvention of the series, but that was in 2017. So I don't know what the fuck's happened. Yeah, Shrek gets frozen and talks about condoms and not using them. What am I, a sailor? Like, wait, what?

You're using all the jokes from Austin Powers. Why is Beyonce in here? One million dollars. I love gold. all right it it is interesting that shrek has not been rebooted and maybe they have a timer like somewhere next to the atomic clock it that's like deep in in the earth somewhere that is just like nope not yet it's gonna it's gonna ring when it's time to bring bring two seconds but yeah yeah i like there's 80s movies that haven't really been like the jaws franchise hasn't been really mentioned for a reboot because it ended so poorly

uh but i'm i'm just wondering like we're yeah they're going to do all of these right like they're they're not going to learn their lesson so back to the future is an interesting one because i think zemeckis and the writer like own all the rights and you basically can't do a back to the future thing without them like agreeing to it oh good so it's like a from my cold dead hands type situation that's the one that like makes the most sense to for them to revive and do a terrible job with that was also a branding branded bonanza like all of the ad like the fucking product placement even in the futuristic version i was like bro i don't even fuck with coke i fuck with pepsi from 2048 or whatever the fuck they were and i was like that's what i'm into i was a pepsi household and i never really interrogated i am a household unto myself

uh you guys should know that and i i think back to the future had a big part of that that and michael jackson it just looked cool cool. The Pepsi bottle thing coming up. Yeah, they must be sad. I mean, I feel like they're so crass or just so brazen that they'd probably just do something very similar. They're like, Time Boy

and Friend and Old Man Friend. But that's the point. You couldn't pitch that. You could pitch a warmed over shitty version of Back to you could even they you couldn't pitch that you could pitch a warmed over shitty version of back to the future but you couldn't pitch like a i don't know time like or the breakfast something brilliant like time boy and friend yeah where's the breakfast i feel like the breakfast club they would have they would have completely just ran rough i am surprised they haven't done anything with like john hughes properties

he must also god yeah it must be that like they're those estates are like nah clinging on yeah get the fuck i mean come up with your own shit i don't i well i do i do want to see time boy and friend but uh time boy and elderly man i mean a reboot makes sense if the first version like is was very bad bad or just good premise but poorly executed or they didn't have the special effects that they needed to really... I mean, well, there's some fucked up shit about Back to the Future, but it's also flawless. I don't know. I'd say that's one that it's a very good thing. It hasn't been remade. They're making the right decision by holding off.

They just need to greenlight Time Boy and Old Future Man or whatever. Yeah, Time Boy and Old Man Friend. I mean, we're workshopping here, so it's a living text. I feel like that's the Daniels next film. Right. Time Boy and Old Man Friend. daniel's next film right time boy and old man friend but but total absurdist view of like what it means to yeah be able to have control of your life like you could if you could yeah so producer justin pointed out like that is the premise of rick and morty yeah so a rick and morty movie

would essentially be the closest trust me i'm sure they're already like okay how do we do that that's right that's a c grab a cash grab ready to go what else i'm trying to think of if they're if they're new they're new back to the what would replace the delorean like a pt cruiser like what's that car that you blew oh but that shit didn't even but at least you could have bought a delorean like i don't even know you know you can't. Anyway. Well, no. Right in. Doc would be played by Elon Musk, as would Marty. As would Marty. No. Yeah.

Oh. He's both? Oh. In our modern world, I feel like it would just be. Your time boy? Yeah. Time boy and old man friend. It's about Elon Musk time traveling by himself.

It's just going to be him. And Musk. Yeah. Young Musk. Old Musk. Yeah, young Musk, old Musk. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. Over the break, we're going to keep

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And we're back. That was a real dead end. Didn't go the way we thought it would. A lot of fighting. Just got a big old argument. We're not friends anymore. That got a little awkward. Not going to lie to you listeners.

That got really contentious when I said there would be hoverboard razor scooters. And that was just a bridge too far for Caitlin. And I said, hell no. That is where Caitlin put down her foot. What is something you think is overrated, Caitlin? I think all Haagen-Dazs ice cream is so overrated. Wow. Finally, someone says it.

We couldn't say that. We're not brave enough. And I'm not even going to say I agree with you because of, you know, my lack of spine, but that is a very interesting take. I think it all tastes like water that they put a little bit of milk into and then too much sugar and all the flavors are bad. And even the flavors that like would be hard to mess up. Right.

I think tastes like poo poo. I think it's bad ice cream. Can she say that, Jack? Oh, man. All right, we might have to edit that out, Caitlin. I'm going to be honest. I'm laughing over here thinking about the sensors and what they're going to have to do with that, you know?

Old Steve, illegal. He's sweating over this episode. I'm not saying that Haagen-Dazs is made of poo-poo. But I wouldn't be surprised. he's sweating over this episode. I'm not saying that Haagen-Dazs is made of poo poo. But I wouldn't be surprised. So Haagen-Dazs, when I was growing up, was treated by my mom as like the Holy grail of substances.

It was, it was just, yeah, yeah. I think it was, she really liked coffee ice cream. She really liked their coffee ice cream. And like it just got a it just was like stuck into my brain as the Rolls Royce of things that aren't cars. I think it had this thing, at least my idea of Haagen-Dazs was that it was so fucking elevated. Like in the 80s. You thought that was like the BMW of ice creams. That's right.

Because the shit was spelled with like umlauts and shit. You're like, Haagen-Dazs. This ain't no Kroger Neapolitan mix. Ben and Jerry? In a one gallon plastic tub. Yeah. This is Haagen-Dazs how good and yeah you feel like that shit is fancy and i remember like all like my mom was the same way because you know she's like i've

i've lived in europe and i'm like this shit is from the bronx mom this shit is not from germany it's like a polish dude started in the bronx but she loved it and like i saw everyone around me being like this is the best as a kid. I was like, dude, this has no fun shit in it. It looks boring. And to your point, Caitlin, it's not really rich. It feels like you made ice cream with like 2% milk. Yeah.

Or skim. Skim milk. We were also a skim milk. I was a skim milk household as well. So that's probably lowered my threshold. So you just don't have good taste in dairy. I have not had Haagen-Dazs since then. And I don't really have any interest in it because I don't have particularly strong memories.

And the best ice creams I've had are never from there as an adult. Exactly. I do like a lot of sugar though so i don't mind a real sugar bomb of an ice cream but oh my gosh i didn't i'm reading the wikipedia page when they first were coming out with it they wanted the the guy who started it this guy ruben mattis wanted something that sounded dainty like it was dan Danish because he was a Polish Jew himself. And he was really was touched by the exemplary treatment of Denmark, of Denmark's exemplary treatment of Jewish people during the war. And so he wanted to he wanted something Danish sounding.

And then even there was an outline of Denmark on some of the early labels. And again, to even to this guy's sort of logic was that it was known for dairy products and had a positive image in the united states there you go well i take it all back no i mean not to say that look the ice cream objectively i'm sorry i will i will go to the stuff that's has the that has the most lipids in it yes that's what i'm saying give me yeah the what's the other i think it was godiva chocolates that i've talked about before in it. That's what I'm saying. Give me livid ice cream. What's the other, I think it was Godiva chocolates that I've talked about before

that I feel like that operates in a similar space to Haagen-Dazs' still coasting off of 80s and 90s branding where people are just like, oh, hell yeah, this is like the creme de la creme.

It's Michael Douglas in a shark skin suit. Yeah, exactly. I like, I like, you know, I like chocolate and I've had bad. Good to have a child.

I haven't had too much chocolate that I was like, the fuck. Godiva has crossed that bridge once or twice yeah anyway let us know who has the most unhealthy ice cream that's really what it's about like if I'm gonna treat myself to a combination of like life altering fat and sugar

like let's alter my life yeah let's do it also it can't be like heart attack ice cream or like some shit that's like designed to do that. Which is your milkshake you were talking about, just adding sugar and freezing it. Well, see, that's where you're wrong, though, because my milkshake is actually to build protein and your body needs fat. I mean, the French actually use eggs in ice cream, so this isn't actually that strange.

My milkshake brings all the boys to me. There it is. I haven't heard that. Yeah. Famously. see that strange my milkshake brings all the boys there it is i don't know yeah that's great my milkshake it doesn't need to be debated anymore that my milkshake what is something you think is underrated i think uh continuing to wear masks especially, is underrated. Not a lot of people are doing it. Not a lot of people are participating. And a lot of people are getting COVID still. So I'm all about that life of you go to the movies, you go to the grocery store, you go to any kind of store, any just place indoors. Keep your mask on.

Yeah. That's just my controversial thing. Indoors. Yeah, I mean, I'm like, I'm always masked up going indoors. At that point, also I found, it's like my face hoodie. I feel naked without it. But I would say,

a lot of the mask mandates have been lifted i think probably all over the country by now i'm only really paying attention to what's happening in like la county but 90 or more percent of people going around with their masks off so yeah yeah and it's still i know it's still very uh like i always hear anecdotes or just like write ups where people were talking about how like sometimes people beginning like diarrhea, you know, is like a symptom of covid. But some people have just focused on that and like I have food poisoning, I think. And then a cough later and they're like, go get tested. We've been testing the sewer water because you guys are so dumb at knowing what your body is doing and you all have

covid yeah but yeah i mean it's it's wild the energy is very much like it's over in some places like it's over and i every week some person at least one person i know who i'm like close to is like yeah i have covid and i'm like of course you do because everyone's just going all willy-nilly so anyway keep wearing your masks that's what i would recommend yeah and like at the very least have have some sense of reciprocity like you don't do things like i don't need it i'm not sick trying to think about you're trying to also create an environment for people who don't have an immune system that is as strong as yours to not have it be a mortal risk when they just want to get some Haugen-Dauce. Right.

Exactly. Or go see Shrek 5 in the theater. Right. Or on ice. Yeah. Or on ice. That shit will go right to ice, right? Yeah. on ice that shit'll go right to ice right yeah i am i i also want somebody to like interview the

people who don't wear masks in indoors while other people are wearing masks and just do the like how about these people with their face diapers and just get them talking because i i just want to know what the inside of their it is i've seen it wasn't that bad i've had it and it wasn't that bad i was with a group of people who are like you know honestly like we're gonna get it we're gonna get it and we can a part of me understands like to not completely like you know retreat from life but i the people i know who normally were wearing masks was like no i got that shit two weeks ago so um you know, we good,

we're good right now. I'm just doing that move. And I feel like that's a lot of the people I see too, or just recent or like they're within their 90 days of being sick. And they think they're, you know, it's mask off time. I feel like there's a patronizing smile that goes with the, the people who don't have the mask on and see you wearing a mask.

And I don't know if that's just me being hyper like you know self-conscious and being like what do you think i look stupid mask on well it's because the mask is so symbolic you know like it's hard to not map on to someone wearing or not wearing like i i believe these things to be true about this person but it's like i was i was there i was where you are mere weeks ago i get it so what changed what changed i decided i wasn't going to be afraid anymore and i started to be free i just want to live my normal life and it's just like i want to live my normal life of not socializing with people like it was before all right let's dig into fun stuff the democratic

party baby matt and pretty much all yeah policy making at this point yeah so matt brunnig who is writing in jacobin but i i think he writes a bunch of places was like since the bill back better initiatives were passed and like they, they were, you know, putting the bills out where people could read them, he was noticing contradictions between what they said and then what would end up after a couple revisions in the bill. And he would point it out in articles, and there would be this, this like massive pushback from sort of mainstream media outlets and supposedly like progressive think tanks where they would just say he was lying and he he's like huh no it's like right there in the like you can just read the thing it's right

there it says it there and he would event like eventually it's been you know a while since they first introduced bill beck better like the he's been able to get people to be like yeah we always knew that was a problem but like we didn't we were trying to control the messaging so i don't know it just it suggests like the way he put it really well rather than work toward creating the best possible policies we can through public debate, critique, and reform, the name of the pre-K and childcare proposals. And a member of Congress like reached out to him and was like, Hey, where'd you,

where'd you see that? Cause I like nobody in the media is pointing that out. Like where, where, where'd you come up with this stuff? And he's like, I just fucking read it. What are you?

Read the text of the bill. Oh, on Reddit. Oh shit. I don't go on Reddit. I should have looked it up. No, motherfucker. R-E-A-D space I-T-ed it.

Yeah. And it's pretty upsetting because it feels like you have one party that... If the bills are this complexly worded, imagine trying to get the benefits that are actually inside, that they're supposed to be delivering to everyday people it's a like labyrinthine nightmare to get anything from the u.s government because since you know the 70s and 80s onward they have like means tested everything and just made it so that if you want government benefits you have to do all the work. You have to do a full-time job's worth of work. We've talked about this before, but that has been the strategy. You

allocate the things that people think they need, but then you make it very difficult and time-consuming to actually get them. And that way, nobody's mad at you because you put the money aside. But also, it doesn't actually functionally help anybody. So corporations and Republicans don't get mad at you. So you have, on the one side, Republicans who sneak, steal, cheat to get every last word they can in that like benefits their constituency which is like billionaires basically and uh you know evil conservatives and white supremacists and then you have democrats who like do use the complexity of the bill to just like hide that they're not helping the people they claim to be helping so nobody is helping people like they're not helping the people they claim to be helping. So nobody is helping people like they're just helping corporations. You know,

like, cause lobbyists write so much of the, the, like our legislation, you know, that's such a huge part. And people, when you had staffers,

you used to have people with like full on policy brain, like wonked out people on your staff to write bills and over time that's shifted a lot of staffers are much younger and can do like a variety of things because it's not just about like speaking to the press it's like do you have any acumen on social media do you can you are you bilingual do you know this area well there's so many other things now that just become very easy for politicians when a lot of you show up they're like we got an idea for a law that would be really interesting and you can introduce it so you can get the credit but we're gonna how about just take a look at that real quick and introduce that and it's gonna help our industry it's because we're

we come from this like we're representing this industry of benefits and a lot of that policy making it just becomes so normalized that yeah like even that, like how confused that one person was like, hey, how'd you know that? Right. Because they don't even have time to read the bills. Right. Right. And it doesn't have to be that way. that is good at lying to hurt people and party that lies to, you know, hide the fact that they're not helping people. Like those should not be the two options, but it, it currently is. And that

doesn't seem like it's a thing that people really talk about. But I also think that, you know, it is, you will naturally see just like incrementally our rights being taken away as individuals and especially people who are poor, people who are women, people who are minorities like that's who the Republicans are going after. And if their only opposition is a party that is just like doing their best to see, make sure you don't see what they're doing. Like it's pretty inevitable, it feels like. Yay. Hey, let's talk about how the media is dealing with this. They're nailing it. At least we, you know, democracy dies in the darkness. And democracy dies in the darkness and democracy dies in the

and new york times op-ed pieces yo what the fuck so i mean it's been hard to find like a scathing piece of journalism or opinion piece that's like in like the your new york times la times type of like cnn's like that aren't just like if there is, it's not just thrown to the side, like really saying front page. This is the state of things. We need to be alarmed and upset and angry for this myriad of reasons. There are light things like that, but nothing that quite arises to that. And I don't want to belabor this point because I feel like just been talking about it nonstop. But the way this like anger is being deflected

is just so fucked up. People are losing their rights, their fucking rights to body autonomy. And we have some op-ed in the New York Times that's titled, I'm pro-choice, but I don't think pro-lifers are bad people. Now, on one hand, I'm like,

are you trying to do this to say we shouldn't be rightfully upset at the people who believe that we have no rights to our own like to make decisions over our bodies like we're we're supposed to be cool with that is that the thrust and this is what is in this op-ed is like just trying to human like look they're people too going this is from this op-ed quote however i'm also aware that opposition to abortion is often founded on a basic idea that it constitutes the taking of a human life, with many seeing a fetus at even its earliest stages as a person to be that morally forbids us to kill. I know people of this view of all races, classes, and levels of education. For them, all the negative effects of doing away with Roe may fade in importance.

To them, those things are a lesser priority than preserving life. Goes on to say, for many, including me, the priority is what a woman does with her own body. As such, many suppose that to be against abortion is to be anti-feminist. But for pro-lifers, a woman's right even to controlling her own body stops at what they see as killing an unborn child. To many of them, being anti-abortion is quite compatible with feminism. So it feels like their strategy here is to be like, well, now that anti-abortion people have power and are doing this thing, we might as well get to know them. Yeah. Might as well open up to lick that boot, too. Right. Hey, they're people, too, you know, these are your new neighbors.

And and meanwhile, there are pieces saying McConnell, Mitch McConnell just made a grave error by saying that this decision could potentially lead to a federal law that makes abortion illegal. I mean, yeah, that is fucked up. That's you don't you never you want to hear somebody articulate that thought. But he did. And he's saying, yeah, potentially we could legislate on that at a federal level. And they took the prospect of curtailing rights and immediately spun it into electoral sports nonsense. And this other piece, it says, I think it's something like Mitch McConnell just like handed the Democrats gold or something. This one paragraph goes down after describing like how much how unpopular being anti-abortion is uh is they go on to say this quote this should be electoral gold hey just that sentence alone cha-ching that was that was my first thought when i read the opinion this should be electoral gold we're you've completely abstracted and made turn into a complete nebulous non-human like form

the idea of someone not having body out time like that's that that doesn't fucking matter they just got gold who the fucking people who want to uphold the status quo and he goes on to say i can't imagine a swing state or swing house district in the country where a majority of voters would support a federal ban even a partial one then this this piece also goes on to say, I can't imagine a swing state or swing house district in the country where a majority of voters would support a federal ban, even a partial one. Then this this piece also goes on to say, I've been hearing anecdotally from friends and seeing on Twitter that women around the country were outraged by the Alito decision. They're looking they're looking to do something. Well, they should do this. Once the Supreme Court's decision in the Mississippi case is officially handed down, assuming it's close to what Alito wrote, women's groups and other political groups around the country should take McConnell's quote and hang it around the neck of every Republican candidate in the country day after day after day. Is this written by someone who will never need to have an abortion or knows not anything of what the threats that loom are to any to any human being it's also just like pure like political consultant

speak of like hanging around their neck and like that doesn't fucking mean anything that doesn't mean anything we're already talking about the legal like there are so many like legal scholars like dude if this shit happens there's gonna be like cross border like, dude, if this shit happens, there's going to be like cross border, like cross crossing state lines lawsuits. We're like Mississippi's like, how dare California allow someone from our state to do something like this? And they said, wait for that shit to start up, let alone the human toll on people. A war between the states would be electoral gold, Miles. It would be fucking jackpot baby i'm sorry where do you live oh i live in a i live in a brownstone that's paid for and i kind

of just like passively collect income from this like first apartment i had actually in dumbo which was great i bought it for like a laugh uh in the 80s okay my great uncle did but yeah now i'm like selling it and i'm like renting it for like seven grand a month it's pretty cool and then i write these pieces about people's dwindling rights and why it's like don't worry like mcconnell just handed an l to himself we're all just people let's all just hold hands and get along again this is the thing more and more this like emphasis on like we'll just get engaged that one day a week when we beg for your vote and then ignore everything every, you know, for three years at a time. There's something that's just so offensive and absurd. And I think most people aren't able to quite articulate it yet.

But it's this idea that people who are able to do something about it are sitting on their hands and acting like this is on you. Right. And that's just, I don't think they, they don't even realize how that's polling. I mean, like on a subconscious level with people, they just need to hang this around their head. The,

the New York times. I still get the Sunday times cause I'm old as fuck. And the, this one right here at the very top left corner, abortion foes ponder a world after Roe Falls. So they're abortion foes. It's all just friends and foe. Yeah.

Movement sees goals beyond legislation. The sprawling anti-abortion grassroots campaign, which, as we talked about, is funded by a handful of very, very wealthy people. Obviously, there are anti-choice people, but the way that it has become this big is not grassroots. It's by taking massive... Yeah, the Judicial Crisis Network spending $10 million per nominee in messaging and shit. The sprawling anti-abortion grassroots campaign is rapidly approaching an entirely new era, one in which abortion would no longer be a nationally protected right to overcome,

but a decision to be legislated by individual states. So it's just telling. They're like, whoa, what if we told this story from the perspective of the anti-abortion fascists? Like, that would be kind of cool, right? I mean, people haven't thought about it that way. What are they like? Yeah.

I saw this Kendrick video, and I was like, it's all about perspective. be kind of cool right to like i mean people haven't thought about it that way like yeah i saw this kendrick video and like i was like it's all about perspective and so i'm just like what if i told this story yeah but i mean this is this is what happens like neoliberalism just like being confused in the face of fascism we see this in history a bunch like a lot you know just sitting on your hands when people are telling you out loud yeah we might ban abortion federally so fucking nobody can can has any sort of right to bodily autonomy and then we'll take away contraception and you'll have no choice but to create more people to you know work under whatever coke brothers fuel nightmare this is why i got my tubes tied when i did like one of the reasons seriously i was like i don't

i'm not confident that i that this country i will have easy and safe access to legal like access to safe legal abortions right moving forward and how much of a fucking ordeal was it for you to even get to the point where you could have extremely difficult it was so many hurdles to i guess the bodily autonomy thing all over again sure you want to do this you sure you want to do this it was i had people tell me doctors and such say like you won't you like no surgeon will even do this until you're 35, especially if you don't already have children. You know, just all these people saying like, oh, if you're not married, no one will do if you're just like a single person. That sounds like one of those doctors. That's part of those like evangelical doctors groups where they're like, i'm on the front line of convincing people from doing such radical things

it was and then i finally found someone who's just like and he was also kind of dismissive too where i was like yeah i was told i had to wait until i was 35 and i i should have just advocated for myself harder but also that's such a burden to take on and that's such a but uh i found someone and i was like hey um i'm gonna get my tubes tied i'm 35 so i'm allowed to do it now question mark and he's like you could have gotten it done earlier and i was like could i have though like i tried yeah he's like sorry you probably yeah he's like i would have done it yeah there are some weird doctors out there who are going to want to get in your head and make you question a decision.

It's like you saw some fucking commercial and were like, yeah, this sounds cool. As if you're not a person who's taking their own life into account and coming to this decision on their own rather than being patronizing and treating you like some confused person off the street. Right.

And then every nurse in that office was also like wait so how many kids do you have and i was like zero and they're like so so you just don't want to have kids and i was like uh-huh and like no one could wrap their head every uh like every person who like the anesthesiologist when i was having the surgery all the nurses when i was having the surgery all the nurses when i was having the surgery they're just like okay so how many kids do you have and like you're like you're done having kids and i was like uh yeah yeah i am yeah i have zero and i'm done and they're like what and it's just it's a baffling i mean i know we're talking about

something different than abortion right now but like it's all it's all under this. It's like a part of this umbrella of the same ideology of like people with uteruses are like the means of production. And and we want to be able to control that. Right. And it's horrifying. No, that's that's uterine communism. You're not going to seize the means of production. It's going to, we're going to, the capitalists will dictate to you the manner in which life is produced. It's just, yeah, but like, you know, this is all part of a larger culture that we're in that is already, even in situations where it should be something as simple as, hi, I would like this procedure that is safe and it's not like it's immoral.

And I'm entitled to legally as long as I'm 18 or over. Yeah, but did you think about this? Dude, no, you're fucking up right there. The conversation ends when I say this is what I want or need. Right. And I'm not asking you to break the law. Don't fucking, you're not trying to, you don't need to save me. I've made a decision.

Yep. you to break the law don't fucking you're not trying to you don't need to save me i've made a decision yep so many parts of our society and important parts are just so much more conservative and like retrograde and that then americans realize and americans don't realize it because they aren't interested in other countries so like they don't know what what other countries are like so they're just like this this is the best there is all right shit that's what i've been told america number one yeah all right let's take a quick break we'll come back we'll talk about dudes and their sheet washing habits i'm jess casaveto executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed.

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And, Miles, this is yours. This is a story that you're bringing to us. I don't know if I believe it, dude, but, alright, man. Go ahead. I read it, and I was just man go ahead i read it and i was like just reading through this whole article and i was like oh god i'm i once was one of these people so here's something that doesn't really need a survey to get to the bottom of but about

how many young single men do you think change their sheets regularly now Now, regularly. Yeah, define regularly. That's where you're already fucking up. Now you're thinking like a gross dude. Just generally. I'm just positing that. What is it? You can create your own timeline. You can say, I believe X percent only

do it X times a year or once every X years or whatever you think. I mean, if it's annually, that's still a disgusting health hazard to everybody. Even sits on your bed. But if that is included and I don't know, I'd say 50%, 55, it how frequently 60 of people do it regularly including like including an annual change okay this is okay and this is also just you know this is a group of young men in the uk about around 2300 people caitlin what about you? Okay, I think that only 5% of men change slash wash their sheets as frequently as once a month. I would say it's maybe something like 20% wash and change their sheets as frequently as like once every three months.

as frequently as like once every three months and it just it keeps i would say like what is what are these reactions jack i would say um 50 of men no i would say like only 40 40 do it uh more frequently than once every six months okay Okay. That's accurate. Okay. Let me hit you with some answers. So after this survey, almost half of single men said they don't wash their bed sheets for up to four months at a time with 12% admitting they wash them when they remember, which could be even longer. Yeah. What is that look like?

Yeah. And, you know, this is they go on and be like, what is causing? Now, I I can speak for myself when I was living like when I was in college and i was not sharing a bed with a person it was like my like depression chamber of like being crushed by life like i didn't know who i was a non-fully formed person i was like doing a lot of drugs and drinking a ton and just like i just didn't give a fuck i was like who cares dude like i just get in here it's my fucking problem like i'm not asking anybody and i would do the panic thing. Like if company was coming over, I would never,

I would, I would put on the air that I was a sheet changer. You know what I mean? And how would you do that? What do you mean? Like I would, I would just change the sheets if I knew someone was coming over. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I knew I was like, nah, I can't have people look like, cause I knew I was like, man,

this pillowcase is starting to smell like my gym shirt from junior high. And I just didn't, it just wasn't processing that way. But they also kind of point to this other thing like, you know, men do sort of like weaponized incompetence too. Like if they're living with a partner, they may do that just to be like, I can't do it. So like, I'm probably going to screw it up. Maybe you can do it. You know? A little Tim Robinson vibes there. Yeah. can't do it so like i'm probably gonna screw it up maybe you can do it you know like that robinson

vibes there yeah yeah shoulders up and but i think also you know i think there's also women who also responded to this survey uh our women identifying respondents to the survey said that 62 every two weeks i'm on that now i'm every i'm an every two week person yeah i'm glad to hear that that's the most i go is two weeks yeah weekly but definitely identify with um the the collegiate you know i don't remember what my routine was, but I also don't remember much of college. And that has to do with the alcohol and drug intake that you were referencing before. My inability to function as a fully formed adult human. Yeah, there were some dudes who were like, I shower at night.

So that's why i don't do it so my bed my sheets don't get dirty yeah but like over time that may be the case but like you'd still need to probably change your sheets uh another thing was just sort of about obviously because of you know patriarchy and misogyny There's just no pressure on men societally to not be gross. To have good hygiene generally. Exactly. And that's another huge part of it. And some other people think like it could also just be a fact of like how little,

especially like I think probably men in the Western Hemisphere communicate their needs or emotions or like anything out loud. So you just turn into an inward like gross bad person i don't know there were like many different sort of perspectives on like what could be driving it also just the way that like men are not can like conditioned or brought up in a way that they generally have to do any like household domestic chores that is like no that's what a woman does you don't have to do laundry you're a man you know i remember my one of my first serious girlfriends saw how i was like slick living and

they're like you just think a woman's gonna do all this huh and i was like no no i just don't need any of it i was like i just go look i'm good without a woman and it's not getting done and you're like wait and then i had to really think i'm like oh my god i'm gross and i've completely like i truly without even realizing how like patriarchy brained i was i was like fuck yeah because in my mind like the rhythm of my life going into high school was my mother could help me do something and then like when you take that out like it just turned into like a runaway gross train and i had to get called on it to even begin trying to like become a less gross person took about seven years yep good and yeah um and then but ever since you know know, I've been with Her Majesty, I've been fully, she worked with me to be a fully formed person.

Very clean now. In fact, I have white sheets now. I used to go with like off colors because I was like, man, you can't tell if that shit's dirty. And that's dangerous, especially if you've got like a dog, maybe with some canine tail turns. Yes. Thank you. Thank you you i don't know i think they're called canine tail turrets that's the official medical term veterinary but yeah that we're again it was it was interesting to see how like nailed on uh this kind of it's like over like half or like four

months horrifying anyway some people say it should be once a week i'm like damn once a week that just feels like a lot of water though that that's that does feel excessive to me especially if i don't so i don't have laundry in my unit. I have to go elsewhere to do laundry. And it's so it always feels like so much more of a chore. So I have to be very strategic about like, OK, what am I washing? What can I bring? What can I carry to this other place? But yeah, things like, you know, sheets, towels, underwears that, you know, let's wash.

Oh, yeah. The towel. I mean, that was when I had to. hmm that yeah you know let's wash oh yeah the towel i mean that was when i had to i remember reading an article that was like you know you have to wash your towel right bro dude i'm clean when i use it why would i need to what i'm wiping off the cleanest water dude on my butthole the cleanest water and then who knows after when i wash my face the next day i'm drying my face off with the asshole towel. But it was the cleanest version of my asshole.

It could have touched. That's the logic. I'm sorry. Fuck. Growth, y'all. It's important. It's important. And be easy on yourself.

You know, this is you. It's okay. Something I think about a lot is how, let's look at the bird kingdom, the birds of the animal kingdom, shall we? This is going somewhere, I promise. I like this. I can't wait. I'm on board. The males in many, if not most bird species, I'm not a bird expert. My master's degree is not in bird sciences.

It is in screenwriting and I would never bring that up. But I've watched enough, you know, like Life of Birds specials. But anyway, male birds, they are the sexier birds. They are the ones doing all the dancing and the mating calls and the flipping, flapping of their wings to attract the females. flapping of their wings to attract the females and i think that we as a human society and this i mean this is me speaking in a very like kind of cis heteronormative space here and i realize that but i would like to see a complete inversion of how things are where men are just they're doing all the lawn they're cleaning everything their their hygiene is amazing they're putting on the best clothes they're doing all the dances

they're flipping they're flapping their wings so to speak and and i can just be a a lazy disgusting sitting in my own filth all the time s slob. They're like, right. Talking on your phone with the other husband, friends. You're like, I can't believe it, bro. Jenny again. She doesn't throw away her dirty underwear. She wears it every day to work. And I'm just like, you got to get rid of it.

It's disgusting. She stinks when she gets home. It's like, women are so gross, you know? And that's the society that I think we should move. I just want to be gross and not have everybody so much about primping men should be putting on makeup and and and learning dances they're learning all that stuff man let's let's do bird stuff creating finely ornamented uh nests with different pieces of garbage that you've picked up that are brightly colored.

Garbage that I've left behind because I can just fucking throw my shit around. I made you this small cove. Those metallic Rice Krispie treats wrappers, the blue ones, that's like the most high-level decor you could have

for a bird's nest. There you go. Fell fellas, start collecting them. Fellas, just put all your trash on your bed and say, look at this beautiful nest I've built for us. Yeah. That's my proposition. Yeah. That is the goal.

And on the other hand, I feel like that SNL sketch with Pete Davidson, be like, okay, is the goal. And on the other hand, I feel like that SNL sketch with Pete Davidson being like, okay, is the reality, is probably the best depiction of modern American men that I've seen. Okay. Okay. We've just turned to gross birds in our bed nests filled with trash. Can't wait. Sitting on an egg of our own emotions we're unwilling to examine. Yes. Caitlin, such a pleasure having you, as always. The pleasure is all mine. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff?

You can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Caitlin Durante. The more followers I have, the more validated I feel as a person. So please, please. Don't rob her of that. I'd like to plug a stand-up, or it's a kind of variety show, but Jamie Loftus and I

are doing stand-up comedy in Los Angeles on May 15th as a fundraiser for this organization called Water Drop LA, which does a lot of mutual aid for our unhoused neighbors. So if anyone in LA wants to watch me do comedy, watch Jamie Loftus do comedy, we'll be there together. The show is May 15th. If you go to my Twitter, the ticket link and stuff is pinned to the top. So

check that out. That would be wonderful. We're trying to help raise money for this great organization. You can listen to the Bechdel cast that person, Jamie Loftus, and I co-host together. We talk about movies. We examine

movies through an intersectional feminist lens. That's about it. I think that'll do. That's all. That's it. That's amazing. And is there a tweet or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying? Apologies if this has been brought up, but you know me and you know how i love to bookend something so we were talking

about paddington at the top of the show i'd love to end the show talking about paddington some more at jay the chow photoshops paddington into a work of film or television every single day so he just takes a still image of a famous movie or tv show he photoshops paddington into it he's been doing this for over a year now and it's the best thing i've ever seen and i did tweet at jay asking if they wanted to be my best friend no response what the fuck i know but i still appreciate the work that jay is doing yeah i mean jay good that's a good friend to have you know that's also just an amazing like testament to you know the fact that you're really in it for the paddington too that you went through with the plug, even though they haven't gotten back to you. Yeah, exactly.

This went in the bird case. Wait, what? I think this is the one you, the one that, oh, someone tagged you in the one where Paddington is sitting on a bench next to Nathan Lane and Robin Williams from the bird case. Oh, yeah.

Speaking of birds. This trio. Bird casege. Oh, yeah. Uh-huh. Speaking of birds. This trio. Birdcage. It's all coming. It all goes back around. Look at us. Look at us. Miles, where can people find you?

What's a tweet you've been enjoying? Oh, find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray. If you like basketball, check out Miles and Jack Got Mad Boosties, our basketball podcast. And if you like weed and reality TV, check out 4 and Jack Got Mad Boosties, our basketball podcast. And if you like weed and reality TV, check out 420 Day Fiance, where I talk about 90 Day Fiance. Some tweets that I like.

There's something about societal dysfunction that brings out the best of Twitter at times. New York Times pitch bot at Doug J. Balloon tweeted, this is like too real. We wanted to understand how the row reversal will affect treatment for things like ectopic pregnancies. So we talked to four unvaccinated firemen at a Sparrow in Staten Island. And that's, yeah, that might actually be a thing. I'm not sure.

So it's hard to know, Doug. And then Nick Gosling at Nick Nick underscore Calico, tweeted, me drunkenly throwing my arm around Yoda's neck. You know, you're fucking cool in my book. Yeah, you little green bastard. Yoda spilling voodoo ranger all over himself. Good to drive, I am. Oh, man.

The drunk friend who insists they're good to drive. What a time. And then it's Yoda. Come on, Yoda. You should be wise enough to know your limits, man. That was a good Yoda impression, though, Miles. I'm impressed. You know, it's funny.

He had a discussion about Frank Oz yesterday with somebody. He was Yoda and Kermit. Wait, did they disagree with that? No, I was talking about like Kermit voices over the years. And I had mentioned Frank Oz offhandedly and they were dismissive of it. And I said, hold on, did you hear me say Frank Oz? And they're like, sure, I guess. I'm like, you're not even fucking with

the voices like that you don't give it up to frank oz so your weekend you're having actual conversations with people and i would be having the argument with like my six-year-old or four-year-old where they just disagreed and said no he's not he's not that voice i mean full disclosure i was having this argument at a disney store at the mall with a kid. And I was asked to leave very quickly. I'm sorry, did you hear me? No, I'm just walking with my mom, sir. Hey, did you?

Oh, so now I got to go. This kid is disrespecting one of the greatest voice actors. Fuck this place. And I'm out. Look, it's been a rough time. It's been a rough time it's been a rough couple months yeah you took the closing of the disney stores hard and to the point that you're still hanging around where they used to be in the store arguing with kids and now they're just it's a it turns out this one was an express

so just i got an argument with a teenager trying to get ready for their prom you can find me on twitter at jack underscore o'b. John Feminella tweeted, Optimist, the glass is half full. Pessimist, the glass is half empty. Excel, the glass is January 2nd. Just a real straightforward Excel joke. I don't... It's over my head.

Have you ever tried to put a one half into excel they automatically convert it to the date uh anytime you put a one slash two january 2nd i get it okay all right okay so i like ones that you kind of have to see in front of you to get i like to read them out loud and then be like, oh, you don't get it? Fine. You can find me doing fun stuff like that on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on

Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website DailyZeitgeist.com where we post our episodes and our footnotes. we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as the song that we think you might enjoy miles what song do we think people might enjoy oh let's uh let's do a track that passed the jack o'brien hey what's what is that test uh last week we were looking at some tiktok videos but there was this one track that was actually pretty good by the artist oh no who if you like beats is the brother of mad lib the fucking legend and this track is called

the hole and it's just a very like gritty kind of like spy guitar spy backbeat feels very spy like so you know when you i don't know if you listen to music in different situations to make this time more interesting do this when you're up to some shit. So this is The Hole by Oh No. I was thinking a spy movie, but you were like, for your spying needs, this is a good one to have ready. In my mind, I was going back to a time when I was doing illegal things. And I was like, wait, this is not who I am. And I don't know why I was regressing so rapidly on Micah's.

All right. Well, go check that out. The Daily Zyka is a production of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That is going to do it for us this morning. But we are back this afternoon to tell you what's trending. And we'll talk to you all then. Bye.

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