The Daily Zeitgeist - Feds Flip Trump’s Crib, Alex Jones <3 Tucker 08.10.22

Episode Date: August 10, 2022

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Starting point is 00:02:11 This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Wednesday, August 10th, 2022, which of course means I'm back, first of all. You're back, first of all, and it first of all and i kind of it's also agent orange awareness day agent orange awareness big day big day for historical terrible chemicals being used in war uh national connecticut day national lazy day national s'mores day you know does every state have a day or were they just like, we got to throw a Connecticut one here? Yeah, yeah. The other day it was like, I think Georgia. Georgia. Yeah, everyone.
Starting point is 00:02:48 Every day has got a day. Hell yeah. Yeah. Are they? I wonder if they're like picking by like, this is the peak. This is peak Connecticut. August 10th. Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:59 You can be overwhelmed and lifted off the ground by mosquitoes. That's the type of temperature we're dealing with here right now. Oh, shit. All right. Well, my name is Jack O'Brien, a.k.a. Jack's on the zeitgeist again. Back with Miles, my old friend. Where the zeitgang masses feed on our lowly second-rate reads.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Back on the zeitgeist again checking on drudge once more watching our country shit the floor where i screamed her daily side and say hi on do all night i'm jack on the zeitgeist again that is courtesy of just my brain yeah i had i had uh back in the saddle again going through my head as i was prepping for the show so you know i want to do uh do something with that by the way this is uh once again every every i think almost every august i'm coming to you from my in-laws house so they can hear all the screamed and sung madness that is happening. And it's very embarrassing. That puts shoes on your kids feet.
Starting point is 00:04:10 Yeah. And then I walk out and have to make eye contact with them for the rest of the day. But you walk out like that one meme of the dude. Sunglasses all mean. Like looking around. Big chest puffed out. Yeah. Just like, what's up?
Starting point is 00:04:24 Yeah, you heard me in there. You heard me, like looking around. Big chest puffed out. Yeah, just like, what's up? Yeah, you heard me in there. You heard me. I'm confident. Anyways, I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray! Now, I don't know what you heard about Snoopy, but you can't ride them at life, but for free. No dirigible fun for Miles G. Won't be riding a BLIMP. Okay, first of all, shout out to Daniel O'Brien who came on yesterday
Starting point is 00:04:49 and blew my mind with the fact that there are only 25 blimps on the planet that are operating. What? Yeah. 25 Goodyear? Blimps. No, just in that style of like an airship. What?
Starting point is 00:05:02 MetLife owns three of them. You can only get on through like a charity thing. The GoodyLife owns three of them. You can only get on through like a charity thing. The Goodyear owns three of them and you have to be invited. MetLife lets you on but they auction them off. And I'm out here looking for,
Starting point is 00:05:15 like Daniel O'Brien, we're looking for a dirigible hookup. We want to see, can we get in there and experience the blimp life? But apparently it's very, it's very hard to get in. You're in the market for a dirigible?
Starting point is 00:05:27 Or you just want to take a ride? Ever since, you know, Indiana Jones. I think I've been obsessed with, like, punching a Nazi on a dirigible. Oh, it's going to happen. I mean, if my Twitter trends tell me there's there's a war coming with Nazis. Well, that that is fascinating. Great song. Great.
Starting point is 00:05:49 I forgot to say that was from a fighter of the night. I'm just quite a night man. Shout out to Daniel O'Brien. That's my my in-laws are getting a call. They get they get more landline calls than I think any home in the United States. So we're just going to record through them. But the landline is still on and popping in Pittsburgh. calls than I think any home in the United States. So we're just going to record through them. But the landline is still on and popping in Pittsburgh. Yeah. Shout out to Daniel O'Brien. I'm sorry I
Starting point is 00:06:12 missed him, but good to hear that he's on that blimp status. Speaking of blimp status, we're thrilled to be joined by a brilliant poet, political activist, academic MC, and podcast host of the must-listen Hood Politics with Prop on Cool Zone Media. It's the brilliant and talented Jason Petty, a.k.a. Propaganda! Propaganda! What's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, what's up? My full government name. And Blimp is really called a dirigible? That's like the kind of aircraft it is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:43 It's called a dirigible. See, you know, it feels like we beat dirigible, though, with Blimp. aircraft it is yeah it's called a see you know it feels like we beat dirigible though with blimp blimp is one of the best words in the english is one of the greatest words i mean because it's like okay give me the etymology of blimp like where dirigible it's like okay i know when you make like a photoc of something, we grew up at the time when you called them all Xeroxes. I understand that Xerox is a company. You know what I'm saying? So that's not the name of the thing.
Starting point is 00:07:11 Is that where we got blimp from? Let me see. Blimp. Etymology. First World War. I will say. Okay. So my thought is that blimp is a word that a four-year-old came up with after seeing one.
Starting point is 00:07:23 It had to be that because that's what it looked like the sound that the that that thing makes in your brain when you see it yeah i guess it looks like it would bounce off a wall like yeah like a video game like a blimp yeah yeah like gatorade should change this name to sports good that's what my kids named it and that's good yeah that's what they call gatorade i like that's like that's like what you call uh cologne in the hood it smelled good but you i like it you got some of that sports good let me get some of that i didn't get some of that sports good there is like a there's they say they don't know where the word blimp comes from most historians believe that it is onomatopoeia for the sound a blimp makes when
Starting point is 00:08:03 thumped so like what somebody's coming up like, let's see if it's airworthy. Prop is exactly right. It has to be that. There is also an often repeated false alternative explanation for the term. The erroneous story is that sometime in the early 20th century, the U.S. military had two classes for airships. Type A rigid and type B limp. Hence blimp. In fact, A whatever.
Starting point is 00:08:24 It's all nonsense. Yeah, that's B limp. No, come on now. B limp, hence blimp. In fact, a whatever it's, it's all nonsense. So yeah, that's B limp. No, come on now. B limp. That also be totally like the U S government or U S military to look at the glory of a blimp and be like, well,
Starting point is 00:08:36 the thing that we can think of about it is that it's a limp deflated. Come on, come on. U S government. Yeah, nah, it's, it's also absurd,
Starting point is 00:08:44 man. Like we should be able to ride blimps but dirigible feels like the only reason to use that word in that and i might be wrong here there might be like multiple clat like blimp might be one type of vehicle inside the overall genus of dirigible and i'm just fucking up here but i feel like if you are using the words interchangeably the only reason to use the word dirigible is because you want to add some syllables to sound a little bit smarter which i i don't hate but i just think we should we should be clear about there's a yeah there's a period word yeah there's a time and place to be like i'm gonna over complicate things purposefully right because i'm actually seeking another cause of whether it's trying to get a job
Starting point is 00:09:27 right or you know i'm saying where it's just like where i'm i'm unnecessarily overcompensating things i do have yeah you know i'm saying like i'm not gonna like you're you're yeah you're like you know your collarbone like if you're gonna call it your clavicle like right you don't even have to call it that unless you're trying to get a job somewhere you know right right they're like oh yeah actually i was sorry i was late to this job interview i just gotten off the good year dirigible so obviously you know it was a chance man i was examining somebody's clavicle on a dirigible honestly also words using like your like battle raps too like yes it is If you hit dirigible. It is perfect. Definitely battle rap words.
Starting point is 00:10:08 But also useful for blimp. Yes. You know, rhyming word with pimp. But if you're battling somebody and they spit a blimp bar and then you came back with a dirigible bar, they would be like, yo, fucking bar exam right there. And you ain't even got to know what it means. That's the best part of battle rap.'t even gotta know what it means that's the best part of battle rap don't nobody know what that mean right but it just sounds hard right yeah you just say it like this right he's like you got that tiny vocabulary you invisible
Starting point is 00:10:34 and then you hit him with that dirigible line yeah yeah ride your mom like a dirigible what and trust spam I was not limp you're like whoa whoa whoa whoa disrespecting the cipher disrespecting the cipher alright well prop we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment first we're gonna tell
Starting point is 00:10:58 our listeners a couple of the things that we are talking about today we are talking about did you guys hear about the fbi rated mario absolutely you hear this oh that one hit me today we're talking about alex jones texts which are i i heard that his lawyers had leaked his texts to the sandy hook families like his lawyers just were lawyers did it yeah yeah the entirety of his like text archive and it's hilarious there's some good shit in there like that at first i thought it was just gonna be you know the normal stuff but alex jones never
Starting point is 00:11:39 fails to there's a reason why a lot of people are sweating yeah including tucker carlson so we'll talk about oh yes that this story made me happy we're gonna get to that plenty more but first prop we do like to ask our guest what is something from your search history so i wrote it down it's called gua sha treatment go on yeah i. I had the same response you did. So, it's a type of massage. It's like an Asian massage. Now, before you get too weird on me, it's this little, like, it looks like this
Starting point is 00:12:14 sideways kind of round spoon, right? Like, kind of thing that you kind of, like, go ahead and look it up because I thought it was made up too. It's G-U-A-S-H-A. Right? Okay. And you rub it, like, it's a like go ahead and look it up because i thought it was made up too it's g-u-a-s-h-a right okay and you rub it like it's a type of like where it just essentially like heats up the muscle for like if you have like tightness or whatever and here's the backstory so july 2nd performing at this festival headlining set super dope but that meant like hour and a half right hour and a
Starting point is 00:12:44 half set granted you know since covid ain't nobody been doing no hour and a half right hour and a half set granted you know since covid ain't nobody been doing no hour and a half sets you know i'm saying so it's it's been a while since i've performed that long and 35 minutes in i just felt like the right side of my lower back just kind of went twist and just kind of like now now here's the thing listen i've never had a serious injury i've never heard i've been my whole life and just kind of like now now here's the thing listen i've never had a serious injury i've never hurt my bit my whole life and it's not like i was ever like i wasn't reckless like right play sports i was a tagger like i dangled on the side of freeways right i fell off multiple things i've just never hurt myself right you know i'm saying so this was the first
Starting point is 00:13:21 time i was like oh that's like a disaster yeah Yeah. I'm the same way. Right. This is like, no, my life. Yeah. Yeah. You think your life's over? Because I'm like, it's like I've never hurt my back. Right. And all the homies were like, you made it this long. You ain't never hurt your back. I don't know. I just never have. Right. So I'm tweeting about it. And my homegirl, this this the best my homegirl Zane, who is probably one of the most talented eclectic like artists painters just a brilliant girl she was like a mentor like this is my ace like she was one of my groomsmen like that's how much this girl is my ace but she's a bona fide hippie and will try anything right right so like she goes yo i've been doing this gua sha treatment i'm gonna come out like let me let me give you a massage i was like you made that word up right right right i know
Starting point is 00:14:11 you made that up or you did that you found that at some drum circle you know i'm saying like i was like that's not real that's not a real thing you know what i mean and i'm like ain't no way i'm gonna let you do this to me because you made that up. Right. So I was like, OK, well, just in case, let me Google it. I was like, oh, my gosh, it's actually a real thing. And I went and got it. Felt great. Nice.
Starting point is 00:14:33 Wow. My back's good. Look, look. Look at me. Oh, wow. I'm seeing some trunk rotation. Let me see that. Let me see that. That'd be funny.
Starting point is 00:14:40 He's like, ah! I know. Yeah. Hold on, guys. I think he's carrying an injury coach he's lying watch him have him pick up that 45 and do a twist all of these uh pictures that i'm looking at have horrifying looking rashes that that this leaves behind did you did you get rashed up no okay that's it might be all the pictures also because google image search is racist
Starting point is 00:15:06 all the pictures are white people it would appear yeah it definitely turns red because it's like you know i'm saying like you kind of like if you're like loosening whatever the like you know the water and pus that's like under like a you know when a when a thing is is like a muscle's inflamed yeah you know i'm saying it's all knotted up. So it's just like, you know what I mean? To come out. And at first I was like, girl, I knew I shouldn't have came over here. But then like a few days later, I was like, oh, it felt like, like if you're into like deep tissue massages, like if you go to a massage, you like break me off.
Starting point is 00:15:41 You know what I'm saying? Like, that's the way it kind of felt. break me off you know i'm saying like that's the way i kind of felt i feel like stuff like this is becoming we had medicine wrong for a long time in the west that like i think like peaking fairly recently where it was just like well if it isn't released in a orange bottle with like a prescription label on it it doesn't actually do anything and everything else that you know acupuncture and stuff like this is just made up things like well oh they've been doing it for thousands of years okay right i was like thousands fam right good sure like you made that up that's not a word well merc pharmaceuticals just developed this 30 years ago yeah i was saying merc pharmaceuticals
Starting point is 00:16:23 named for what they do to people who come up with treatments that they can't patent yeah don't fuck don't well done uh what is something you think is underrated i think phone calls are underrated because sometimes it's like look i just need an answer right now right do you know i'm saying like right right just real quick like i don't feel like typing it maybe it's like maybe it's too much to explain yeah it's a lot i'm saying like right right just real quick like i don't feel like typing it maybe it's like maybe it's too much to explain yeah it's a lot i'm just like yo hey you pulling up friday yeah all right fool good right now easy you know i'm saying like just just tell me right now so i can move on like i'm just trying to check this i don't see no problem with that now granted i do have a friend that refuses to text and only
Starting point is 00:17:05 calls that's different but like you text them and by like right you hit send and suddenly your phone is ringing yeah that dude yeah and i'm like oh no like what no but like there was a reason i texted i promise yeah but generally if it's just like hey we need to do this by friday bet yep yeah and i think it's underrated you know honestly in this day and age of mostly text communication it's harder to deny you didn't get the info if you got that call too yeah it's like bro i called you what do you mean like we don't even talk you and you pick up the phone you're like oh wow look who's using the phone you remember this fucking conversation like yeah we had a conversation yeah okay yeah i mean i think it's underrated we've we've had
Starting point is 00:17:53 people on here talk about phone calls being underrated for like catching up hearing people's voices like interpersonal connection but in terms of i think i think this might be the first time we've had people like advocate for phone calls in terms of like exchanges of information that so a thing that i know some people who do is they will leave an intentionally vague voicemail or text that's like hey can you call me or something you know what i mean like yeah because they just like they want the call to happen quicker right and i hate that that's that's scary it's passive aggressive it's passive aggressive or you gotta let them know it's nothing bad right i'm right so just call me right i'm like just call it don't give me that because now i'm now my brain going everywhere i'm like dog that feels manipulative i'm just like yo look and because i know i'd much rather
Starting point is 00:18:51 like i don't now in their defense like i don't like catching up on the phone i'd much rather be like yo let's go get coffee let's go do something right i'll catch up with you in person but i definitely don't want to be walking around the house for for an hour and a half right talking about you know i'm saying i don't want to do that around the house for an hour and a half. Right. Talking about, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to do that. But I think a phone call, especially because of like the work that we do, like I had to call my, like I had to text my assistant yesterday and was like, hey, I need to fill this out by the 10th. She ain't respond.
Starting point is 00:19:18 So I was like, the 10th is today. Like had I just called her and was like, yo, do this. You know what I'm saying? Got it. You know? Cause I was just like, oh, my bad. I didn't see this text. And I'm like, that's fair. She could have made a flight. I'm not her only client. You know what I'm saying? Like, so I'm like, dog, man, just let me just call you real quick. Yeah. In that case, you just hit the exclamation point on, on the, In that case, you just hit the exclamation point on your own. I will show you that's exactly what I did.
Starting point is 00:19:50 That's exactly what I did. I'm sorry. I didn't add the proper. Yes. And she just replied, sorry, I got you. Punctuation. Because I hit the. There it is.
Starting point is 00:20:03 I hit the exclamation point. Absolutely. Yep. What's something you think is overrated crocs okay and it's not that i don't it's not that i hate them i mean it's like look dude if that's y'all's thing that's your thing but don't act like this the greatest foot most comfortable thing in the world like slow down fam you can like them and that's the thing like i'm not the like old head that's like i'll never wear i probably won't because i just don't like them but like it's not like this is hideous it's like yo these ain't come on man like this isn't the greatest you act like this is the greatest foot invention you know i'm saying since the jesus sandal like right right come on cuz like they
Starting point is 00:20:44 not it's not that serious you could like it it's a slipper you wearing a rubber slipper everybody likes slippers yeah like this chill fam don't ride for the croc don't ride for him don't you ain't gotta ride for it like you could like them yeah right because i like i like i like anything that is that just feels comfortable but i agree with you. A clog, like I have, I have a couple pairs of Crocs. I'm like, these are cool. But at the end of the day, I'm like, I lean into the irony of the Croc more than like objectively me being like, this is a fucking wave.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Get the fuck out the way. Grab your surfboards because we're in it. No, I'm more like this shit is comfortable. And it feels like to comfortable and it feels like to me it feels like such a stoner look when you like yeah you're wearing rocks with socks like yeah you wear them with socks you wear what sucks oh you see me go to the fucking store with my oh my god they're like this guy is so high and also trader joe's they're always like yo you always get the best shit man i'm like yeah i know don't be commenting on my bag but also thank you but yeah game recognized game like i know
Starting point is 00:21:50 you're it's like sanctioned discussion that you have to do as check out a trader joe's but there are like i go to a couple and most i'm like hey i see like i like the combos you're doing i'm like are you mixing the mezcal with the spicy uh yeah yeah yeah i'm like yep spicy salsa i am oh i didn't know we had that i didn't know we had the mango yeah yeah yeah i didn't know we had the mango kind i feel like it's on a slow is on a flow chart a conversation flow chart yeah i think i've gotten that oh that's back in oh i gotta check that out i gotta check that out i'm like hey man don't comment about my stuff, dog. It's all good, man. I've got parenting advice from them. I feel like somebody needs to give
Starting point is 00:22:29 like... Give them a union? Yeah, give them a union. Also, the number one conversationalist Trader Joe's checkout person needs their own podcast because they have put in the work. You already know, you could teach some masterclass. And not the trader joe's podcast which i think was the thing for a little
Starting point is 00:22:49 while exactly but yeah i think they are unionizing anyway that's what i'm saying do your thing you don't have to i get it man like they're very talented they have the gift of gap i gotta say yeah it's really dope and i and i it's like i get what you're doing you know i'm saying but like there's part of me that's like man it's like we're not we're not friends man like it's like i get what you're doing you know i'm saying but like there's part of me that's like man it's like we're not we're not friends man like it's cool you know i'm saying like you got how many more how many more minutes you got to you up how many moments to your break it's all good don't trip yeah i don't i don't need that right i'm not here because you're a nice checkout my manager's counting how many conversations i do you're like this is actually this is actually the first i'm hearing that it's mandatory. And I just deleted five
Starting point is 00:23:26 contacts from my phone because, wow. Hey, man, let me get your contact, bro. That's a great move to do. Hey, let me get your number. Can I get your number? Yeah. Oh, you do that back to them. They're like, oh, wow, that's just back. I'm like, yeah, man. Hey, let me get your number. We can click it later. Hey, bro, it's really good talking to you, man. Hey, hey, can we connect sometime, man? Get your number. This is for my job.
Starting point is 00:23:50 You're like, I know, man. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make you fuck up. Yeah, dude. No, I'm just saying. You see how awkward it is when somebody trying to be nice to you when you don't need them to be? It's weird, ain't it?
Starting point is 00:23:58 Don't trip, man. Just check the fucking mangoes out. Just mad at the dude for no reason. You're like, what the fuck you're like i'm sorry man i'm going through it man it has nothing to do with you i just really need this mezcal dog hurry up grapes oh i love these what hold on hey rebecca yeah the cotton candy grapes they're back okay yeah i like them just have to be impressed by the dumbest shit though what a great bit it's like so much more
Starting point is 00:24:25 energy i feel like the the pay has to like the talking skills i like you're saying jack like you could probably put most people on the other side of a mic who's worked at trader joe's you're like i got some pretty good communication skills yeah because you're you're you're really making something out of nothing oh yeah there's nothing because there's nothing here. There's a whole line of it and I got to figure out something new for everybody to come up because of course this person heard that. They will freelance, by the way.
Starting point is 00:24:54 I've gotten parenting advice that is bad parenting advice from a checkout person at Trader. I was talking to one person. The person checking me out was asking me about some kids snacks that we were getting and they brought over like i think somebody who was like their shift manager like seemed to be in a position of authority and they they were like yeah you were talking about
Starting point is 00:25:16 like something with your kids and it ended with like a somewhat like lightly authoritarian parenting philosophy that i was like damn man you just came out with that all right you just the thing you gotta know is you gotta you gotta let them know like that you mean business or something something like that they gotta know they're on a tight leash you know what i mean like oh word okay what are we talking about i mean kids all right then thanks man all right well anybody who has ever uh asked for a Trader Joe's person's number after the mandated conversation, let us know. Let us know how it went. Yeah, not in a creepy way either.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Right. Not in a creepy way. Oh, you think this is cool? Hey, you want my number? Wait, I don't know. I don't know if we want to celebrate that. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult.
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Starting point is 00:30:21 Well, you think about right. Like even to get a warrant, you got to explain this. If I when I when I execute this search, it means I can turn up evidence that will show that this crime said crime has been committed. You also have to say like what has been it yeah i think to get there you have to demonstrate and and the and the lawyers have been speaking to his lawyers about this so there's something there for sure they said they've been talking since june and was like like meetings like and trump was at one of them where he was like yo you got a box of what now all right uh gotta run hey can you lock it up though like that's they they said that if they was like yo can you make sure you lock that up lock her up yep they were like oh okay yeah but i still think i don't know how else to slice this this is it's objectively funny everything about this is it's just funny because we have to back up a step to be like this grown man tried to flush paper down the toilet.
Starting point is 00:31:26 Right. So like like paper, like like like what we used to do when you try to hide a joint from your mama. You know what I'm saying? I remember my dad used to tell me all the time, son, I'm a quit smoking. I quit smoking. And and it would be a cigarette butt just floating in the toilet. Right. And I'm like, you don't have to tell me you're quitting. You know what I'm saying? For me to have to find, like, you could just be, you smoke in the bathroom. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's just what you did.
Starting point is 00:31:54 Because I'm seeing it's like, or at least watch it flush. You know? But I'm like, if you can't get a cigarette butt down, you took an eight and a half by 11 piece of paper and thought you could flush it in the toilet yeah that's objectively funny yeah they just had to dig clumps of it out of the white house which we knew we knew already like that that was yeah right yeah yeah and then and then i'm like okay it's objectively funny because it's like yo i'm gonna take this box with me as a momentum right even if it's just like i think it's a moment even if you not hiding crimes right you're just like oh this is dope i want to remember that i was the president at one time i want to be able
Starting point is 00:32:36 to show this to chicks like that's funny like that is exactly what we would expect from him too you need you like fam you don't we all know you was the president like you ain't gotta like you don't need to what is you doing you know i'm saying and if you hide evidence fam you keeping it and then on the top of that it's just i'm i'm going off because it's obviously refreshing everybody's mind but i'm like this man was like they even broke into my safe yeah we're at stolen documents and let me get you you don't think the feds was gonna go in your safe
Starting point is 00:33:14 you thought they you thought the the fbi that was going to walk in your house i hadn't called all the oxen free yet. Yeah, exactly. Right. Exactly. Yeah. You know, completely out of touch with anything. Approaching consequences. Yeah. Like, bro, you really thought you really thought.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Yeah. That you put it in a safe. I go be like, oh, right. Well, it's in a safe, guys. I guess we could go home. Right. Because there's going to be a lot of finger pointing. Right. Well, it's in a safe, guys. I guess we could go home. Right. Because there's going to be a lot of finger pointing. Right. Like because he's under the idea that because I'm president, I can declassify whatever I want, which is true. But there is a process in which to do that because Trump was getting in trouble doing that shit just on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:33:57 He's like, I hereby declassify this shit. And they're like, no, they're like, you have to go through a proper chain of command, like a chain of custody to make sure certain documents are you can't just be by decree. So there's that element. Then it's like, who boxed up the shit? Who moved the shit there? And there's a lot of people, a lot of hands on it where I'm sure maybe Trump can begin to be like, I never did anything, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But yeah, it seems to be from a lot of the accounts that Trump himself knew what was where and had a hand in handling shit. So, again, it is hard to know, like, where this goes, because it feels kind of like in everyone's minds.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Like, what is this? Some weak sauce documents charged? They're trying to get them on. Is it that there's highly classified information and there's like an espionage angle where this dude clearly had some like documents that he could maybe sell to people blackmail people with shit like that if there's because clearly just like cover up the evidence in which case i have which is also another crime flush that shit oh yeah yeah no no but that's what i'm saying so i'm like that shit right yeah that's why i'm like this is objectively funny because i'm like in no way are you I don't know what your angle is. You handled it all wrong.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Right. I don't know what the angle is. This is hilarious. Yeah. I would say the one skill that he has more than any other president we've had is he's better at getting away with crimes than most presidents. Or, you know, like outside of the official channels of like doing the crimes through the cia or fbi so like i just i don't know like i my molar sense is tingling like some of the shit in the new york times thing was just like the search however does not mean prosecutors have determined that
Starting point is 00:35:37 mr trump committed a crime despite the historical and political it's just it it worries me that like this will come to nothing other than, you know, like they're I don't think they're going to stage a successful civil war over this. But I do think there's going to be violence. Yeah, they're definitely going to feel like vindicated, like this is the stuff we've been telling you. We told you this was coming. Right. And that's what they've been saying. They said if they can do it to President every a lot of politicians have had a version of they if they can do this to president trump they can do it to you well they have done it to us so i do it to people they do
Starting point is 00:36:14 it to people all the time right number one you mean people who commit crimes yeah so that's the other thing so that's why i'm like that's the thing when i think about like that that like far right circle or even these uh all of a sudden these republicans that are on some defund the police situations now right like i'm like okay so here here's what i don't understand and i would love some clarity on this like where how are y'all thinking about this like when i think about in the fight for justice freedom and equality or even just street life we're under no delusions that we're committing crimes. Like even if it's like civil unrest. Yeah. Like I know this is a crime. So the feds are a matter of time. Right. Like I know they're coming. Right. Because these because these sit-ins,
Starting point is 00:36:58 you know, I'm saying that Dr. King states are crimes like we know that, you know, I'm saying the difference is the feds was coming. The feds don't want black people to organize. So they was coming whether we was committing crimes or not. But since we committing crimes, I know, but it's the right thing to do because
Starting point is 00:37:17 of the course of justice, right? So my question with them is like, okay, so which one is it? Is it like, are are you do you understand that he committed crime? No, it's just the right thing to do. Or do you know, because then the right thing is innocent. Yeah. So I'm saying, yeah, well, he's innocent in the sense that what the reason people are trying to, you know, prosecute him, persecute him is for the wrong reasons. trying to you know uh prosecute him persecute him is for the wrong reasons you know and it's not about that there is a fun you know because all the time suddenly the hillary email thing doesn't
Starting point is 00:37:51 matter documents don't matter trump was mad at james comey for having documents and tried to get him like you know under the jail for stuff like that all it is is no man we're gonna do whatever the fuck we need to do so all y y'all are bowing at our feet. That's it. It doesn't matter. At the end of the day. Yeah. Cause I'm like, okay, so yeah, you're right.
Starting point is 00:38:10 So it's like, I mean, obviously like we know at the, at the core, this is what they saying. I'm just like, man, let me follow your logic though. Cause is he, is he, is he fighting for the soul of our country? And sometimes you got to break some eggs and you know, he broke or you're like he's done nothing wrong this whole time and that's the part that i'm like i don't get it it's breaking eggs because there was a study about how conservatives are like exponentially more forgiving if they find out a politician of their party committed a crime like paying somebody to give false testimony. Like in this poll, they found that Republicans were like way more accepting.
Starting point is 00:38:49 Be like, I don't know if that's what you got to do. Like, so in a way they, they're kind of soprano fight in their mindset. Like they're on some gangster shit where they're like, yeah, we know it's dirt,
Starting point is 00:38:57 but that's what you got to do to stay on top. And like, along with all of this, it just kind of, we have all these dimensions of trying to understand when, when is there going to be any kind of accountability? Who's going to bring it? Is Mayor Garland going to do anything? I mean, this is a huge thing. Like it is. Yeah. Whether or not the DOJ actually knows, like if they're going to be able to wrap this shit up properly.
Starting point is 00:39:19 That's a whole that's the other part. I'm like, I'm curious where this lands, because. Yeah, for sure. A lot of people describe it as crossing the Rubicon. Like you raid a former president's house with the FBI. That's a that's a move. It really is. Are you going to come? Are they half stepping and being like, well, I think this will be the stuff that sticks or are they really like, no, OK, this is just the final piece, whatever. It's really that's the part that I think is variable. And I'm not quite sure of at the moment. Yeah. Yeah. What if you just had like the binder that had all the details of who killed JFK?
Starting point is 00:39:51 And he was just like, you're going to let me be president again. Yeah. He's like, I'll tell everybody. I'll tell him. I'll tell him. Like that feels like the sort of shit that would work and work itself out in his brain. Or he's been like double hoodwinked where they made a fake binder of secrets that he thinks is all real they're like yeah go ahead go ahead right right the things that
Starting point is 00:40:10 worry me and this might just be because like most of the sort of main reporting this happened is in the new york times but like the appeal to like it being a double standard mr trump who campaigned on criticizing hillary's practice of maintaining a private email server was known throughout his term to rip up official material. Like that is not going to be enough, you know, that right.
Starting point is 00:40:35 Like we, they need a smoking gun and I'm hoping that they recognize that they needed to like have a smoking gun and be super confident it was there if they were going to do this shit. Also, I'm like losing faith in our ability to pull off like, you know, conspiracy theories.
Starting point is 00:40:53 How the fuck are you not just like getting to the cleaning person? Like, you know, sending Ethan hunt in there to steal that shit. What's going on? Unless they're trying to send a message, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's yeah. There's like,'s like i i there's all yeah there's that the the new york times of it all that is always on some
Starting point is 00:41:12 like oh yeah this is it you know it's like okay yo chill like it's like the crocs thing it's like okay it's dope chill fam like but chill i you know yeah i think the other part is to in any other time you'd say this could potentially be like you know sensitive documents as it pertains to national security there's like right there are a couple ways to actually describe what it is and i think it's very charitable for a lot of people saying he mishandled documents right when the crime could potentially be he's taking top secret shit to mar-a-lago as like an insurance policy or maybe to set up some other power move down the road and selling secrets to the soviets on some like just go back to the 80s yeah yeah he's talking
Starting point is 00:41:57 to the soviets and the conservatives because yeah because it's like it's uncharted but it's like Because it's like it's uncharted, but it's like, OK, of all the things that are uncharted, this the last part, this the part that makes the most sense is like of all the uncharted stuff. Right. What's uncharted is somebody losing an election and acting like they lost was uncharted. You know, it is actually taking a box out the way you know the only part that makes sense is the feds being like hey you can't take that yeah what what is what is he doing they're like did you ask him they're like yo he said fuck you last time i came last time so i'm like what okay yeah so the the other thing that jumped out to me in the times reporting on this is they're talking about so in january this year the archives received 15 boxes from trump that he had taken with him to mar-a-lago and we're just
Starting point is 00:42:53 never gonna know what was in that shit or at least like not for decades because they described the classified material they didn't describe the classified material it found other than to say that it was quote classified national security information. Like, that's not going to be enough. They're really going to need to. They said some of the things that they're potentially retrieving in that raid were like too too sensitive to even describe what the documents were. They were. That's crazy, man. But I don't know. And I'm saying that's the thing is like, if it is that, then, you know, journalists have a responsibility to not be like he's like he was playing messing around with papers yeah right no this is real because it is it is the move of like
Starting point is 00:43:36 a greedy motherfucker who's like on his way out of their free hotel stay and he's like i'm gonna take the bathrobes i'm gonna take the fucking towels yeah i'm gonna get something out of me leaving here right now yeah and that is the mindset of someone dirty like that which would be box up this sensitive material because i might be able to use that shit later i don't know when yeah maybe he don't even know what's in it he might not even know all that's in it he might just be like i'm just gonna take this it's probably something dope in here i don't know yet yeah if it's that like i don't i i don't know i i think it needs to be connected to his like attempts to yeah fix the election for it to pay off in the american
Starting point is 00:44:13 like mind in some way you know yeah sure there's an and there's a ton of speculation of like what could be in there like is it the phone transcripts with zelensky that was part of his first impeachment is it stuff in the lead up to january 6th is it stuff about tom barrack who is a huge donor who asked him to meet with like officials from cutter or like get him a pardon there's plenty of shit that i believe is that many people are like if there is there could be a lot of incriminating shit in there that's for sure when you look at all the controversies surrounding him and what he would choose to be like i gotta hold on to this like why would he not tear that shit up that's the thing like that it feels like the the more i think about it i hadn't really been able to wrap my mind around it until you said the thing about him like
Starting point is 00:44:59 stealing confidential information and like trying to use it as leverage which does make sense yeah the sort of thing that trump would do but also as the sort of thing that like probably is not going to land with people as much you know yeah as if it were like documents with him trying to fix the election which we know he did we just i don't think the evidence exists but then but then you fall into the trap of like well it's got to be bad enough of a crime that these fucking people who support him understand that's not going to happen that's never gonna happen so i just want the rest of the people to understand yeah and they should at least if if the charges guys got classified material and you're fucking taking it to have a stroll with
Starting point is 00:45:45 or potentially sell it most people be like yeah you can't do that shit that's what do you do for it huh what are you getting exactly but i and i just want to say like the response like to your point of like the the on the right they don't know what the fuck to say right now aside from just like absolute anger because if the figurehead can be toppled by the fbi then that means they're everybody's now anyone can get touched yeah exactly and i think also but also like even on their side of the thing like they have to know like when everybody go home that he the most reckless person they got in their squad like you they're like on the other hand you know you real reckless you know i'm saying so i they they i just I have to believe even in all of their ghoulishness that you have some sense of logic of like, well, I mean, it could happen to anybody.
Starting point is 00:46:34 But also, I think most of us got sense enough to know not to take a box home. Well, but that's the thing, right? You know what I'm saying? the thing right you know if the if the person you you know is the figurehead of your movement can get away with all kinds of crimes that that that bleeds into the the base and they're like yeah man true but if you like look like again her politics antennas if like if you're you're one friend that's like shit i'll go in their house i don't care i'll get fucked i'll go in there and take that it's like all right go ahead you know i'm saying it's like because just because you did it the last two houses you think you okay to go in there and steal this ps4 okay go for it yeah you realize when you realize that this fool's mom's boyfriend
Starting point is 00:47:15 who were old school domu just happened to be taking a nap in the back and he see your little ass in the bed you know i'm saying right and be and beat you to a pulp then i'm like well i mean if it happened to him having anybody also i knew not to go into that boy's house right but every i feel like we're using our brains to try to think like them and they are authoritarian like they you know they they think that trump should be able to break all the rules including kill people like that they you know he came out like during his campaign he came out was like i could shoot someone in fucking park avenue and they were like hell yeah and that like that is the fundamental right wing ideology bleeding through is that they are authoritarians they don't give
Starting point is 00:48:05 a fuck like you know yeah right if i say it's right yeah if there's anything that just resembles accountability it's a disaster because the momentum in their minds of the movement is to just like just flood through everything and be like no you can't stop this it's we we said we're done with this it's all ethno-nationalism now fuck yes i mean they've known that shit since fred hampton was killed by the fbi like it's not like they don't think that happened they know that happened at some level they just don't give a fuck they think which is really interesting because they have people on fox the night of the raid a lot of people especially people like matt gates who are you know being investigated by the fbi yeah the fbi needs to go marjorie taylor green's like we got to get rid of this
Starting point is 00:48:49 shit and i want you to hear this other pundit on fox too who goes who's also this is like this this f like down with the fbi take has gained so much steam with this raid but i just want you to hear this because this is another take on fox about how this thing needs to be completely dissolved this is a wake-up call for those in congress to be able to use the tools at their disposal to defund the fbi to ask the right questions and to prepare for a church-style commission next year if given a republican majority to dismantle the fbi into a thousand bits yeah yeah that's that laura ingram coming in there just like cut like kind of bored being like yeah that's the thing that's what i'm saying it's objectively funny that is funny it's wild you can't have you can't step first of all look i don't think you can step to the fbi on some regular ass outraged karen energy like you know actually this needs to be
Starting point is 00:49:45 abolished blah blah blah they get their man i'm like i don't i yeah name i fbi ain't taking no losses ever that's that's i'm saying that's a weird enemy to articulate as a like a political entity and i'm like what is this what is being said at the FBI now they're like yo a lot of these people really think they can come for like fam I'm like check the scoreboard my g yeah that's what I'm trying to say I'm like they don't take l's like I remember when he first started messing like that's one thing we talked about on the show too where it's like bro like you could ask the mob you could ask the black panthers you guys listen they told you about them feds you're not gonna win this one big dog and i don't know that's but then it's wild right because then
Starting point is 00:50:31 or yeah the thing is you come to power then you put stooges in and it just becomes a crew of people with guns who just become your other so it's just wild to see how there's so many moving parts right now and meanwhile you do have eric trump i just want to play this clip of him he sounded like he was running out of steam to be like to try and like articulate any outrage because like his dad just got his shit rated and i don't know he's definitely he's running out of gas on the outrage and going back to hillary there's a whole lot of other things how about the big nazi scandals how about the clinton foundation i mean how many you know shady oligarchs from russia were contributing to? Look about, how about Uranium One? You want to talk about, you know,
Starting point is 00:51:07 scandals that were never investigated, never vetted? It's funny how many times he literally said, what about? Or how about? That's the name of what you're doing too. What about? How about?
Starting point is 00:51:21 What about? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, bro. I can't believe that's his real voice. about? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, bro. I can't believe that's his real voice. That's wild. Yeah. True.
Starting point is 00:51:28 All right. Let's take a quick break. We're going to come back and talk about some documents we actually have access to wonderfully, fortuitously, which are Alex Jones's text messages. We'll be right back. right back. I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series, Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine.
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Starting point is 00:54:11 And these are the only two times we know of that a woman has tried to assassinate a U.S. president. One was the protege of infamous cult leader Charles Manson. I always felt like Lynette was kind of his right-hand woman. The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI in a violent revolutionary underground. Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore. The story of one strange and violent summer. This is Rip Current. Available now with new episodes every Thursday.
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Starting point is 00:55:05 potent and cheap, and the dealer might not even know. Keep yourself and others safe by knowing the real deal on fentanyl. Get the facts. Go to realdealonfentanyl.com. This message is brought and we're back so alex jones was being sued by the sandy hook families who yeah whose lives at the the worst moment that you can imagine for a human being he started attacking them claiming they were fake that they were actors and he he was found guilty of all that shit well if you remember he was already found like he lost the case by yeah he already lost the case like months ago because he's like i don't know i'm on fucking documents they're like then you lose bro he's like okay uh then let's just figure out what the fucking payments are gonna be basically it's like a foregone conclusion yeah it's like i don't know yeah like yeah his whole
Starting point is 00:56:07 attitude the whole the whole his whole attitude the whole case was just like yeah well you got me yeah see what happens and then go on his tv show and be like they're trying to kill me but yeah he took an l oh and totally like like the judge was 45 or something. So it's close to 50 in total. Which is like what he earns in six months. Some of the stuff that's been revealed is brain pills. He was making $800,000 a day. A day? A day?
Starting point is 00:56:36 InfoWars heyday? He's selling sawdust to a massive audience. dust for to like a massive audience he's selling the most inexpensive groceries to a massive audience like constantly he i think he said what like bad food equals money in one of his text messages yeah because yeah he's selling cheap food calling him prepper buckets yeah so he's got you know his in that in the course of that trial as we talked about last week his lawyer or a paralegal from his lawyer's team accidentally shared his entire phone data for two years including texts into this shared drop box folder that was meant to be shared with both set teams of lawyers for shared evidence for the case. He had 10 days to say that they actually wanted to exercise some like privilege over these
Starting point is 00:57:29 documents and have them sealed. But the lawyer didn't do that. So after 10 days, they just became fair game for the victim's family's lawyer. And he's got them. Apparently, they're already on their way to the January 6th committee if they aren't already there because they subpoenaed that as well. they're already on their way to the January 6th committee if they aren't already there because they subpoenaed that as well. But for starters, there are apparently a lot of texts between Alex Jones and Roger Stone in it. And this lawyer, Mark Bankston, described them as a lot of, quote,
Starting point is 00:57:55 intimate messages. And one is alleged to be one where Alex Jones sent a nude picture of his own wife to Roger Stone. And this this is like then the lawyer was like yeah there's some things on like not really giving much but but intimating that much or implying that that was i absolutely believe that that just completely tracks with these dudes oh 100 yeah these are yeah these are fucking like bros overgrown bros with like no sense of anything decent. Who knows what's going on? So on top of that, look, if maybe you hate your life and you notice that Tucker Carlson didn't make his hosting gig on Monday for his show. This was like right on the heels of the raid.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And maybe you thought, oh, shit, he might be shook up by that raid. Or maybe he's having to talk to Trump about the raid because that was, you know, I think Trump was in New York at the time. And, you know, that may be the case that it may have something to do with the raid. But there's also reporting that Tucker Carlson is also really worried about Alex Jones text messages. So it says, Tucker Carlson is, quote, shitting himself, end quote, over the possibility that text between him and the far-right conspiracy icon or loon Alex Jones will leak, a source close to the Fox Star told Confider. Carlson and the raving InfoWars rancher trade text messages on a daily basis. Oof. I mean.
Starting point is 00:59:29 And look, Alex will definitely throw somebody under the bus oh yeah but it doesn't matter it this is just a this is just a matter of right yeah the bus is yeah the bus is earth and you live on it i'm sorry there's no bus to be through you the bus is now reality yes i think that's the other thing they said. And later on, he said that he would be, quote, highly embarrassing is the way they describe what some of the leaked text messages would be. And they're buddy, buddy. But they do that thing where they act like they don't know each other. Right. Which is good because it creates like plausible deniability that there's any coordination because we talk about the inflect the conspiracy theory pipeline as how it goes from internet to info wars or info wars to internet back up to tucker carlson and creates this whole
Starting point is 01:00:11 information network that sort of works somewhat lockstep with each other yeah alex jones like is just out there trolling the forums and then you know they they've realized that their audience are baby boomers and they don't they were raised on the nightly news and they can't deal with a news landscape like that has been flattened where you know everything they see everything they hear might as well be told to them by dan rather you know yeah and so they've just taken that and exploited it just use the internet as a massive conspiracy gathering device and yeah carl just the the cream of the crop rises up to carlson but that's that is wild you know sitting the putting the tucker car Carlson of it all aside for a sec, putting even the boomer of it all,
Starting point is 01:01:09 just the balls of a guy. I still am perplexed about the Sandy Hook with stage thing and that you really ran with that and it worked air quotes yeah you know i'm saying i'm like but it it verifiably happened like i just i still like i'm like you're you're sticking to this you're sticking you stuck to this bit like you sticking to this bit all the way to court because there was so much money to be made on it and i'm like but these two but these these the people right well there were hundreds of people there you can't this ain't the resurrection of christ that you could be like well this was a couple thousand
Starting point is 01:01:59 years ago so maybe like no homie yeah it was last week, what did you talk about? We can absolutely know. Well, yeah. Then I think that's what that's what makes a lot of these. I think that's what's really interesting that they talk to each other all the time, because yeah, working together by always talking or being in constant communication with each other, they've managed to also create this worldview where people instantly can reject what has happened and find a way to make the opposition responsible. So in Sandy Hook, it was Barack Obama is president and he wants to take away your guns
Starting point is 01:02:30 for the brown and black takeover. Yeah. And that gave a very tidy explanation, I'm sure, to many people who are probably horrified. Not everyone believed it, but enough to be like, I don't know. At the very least, sounds like a reason obama would use to take away our guns yeah and that's the only part you focus on like some people can probably accept that it was a tragedy but then are more doubling down on the idea that like but they're going to use this to try and take away our guns and that's the part that they'll you know really latch on to and everything we see is always finding a way is like man this may have happened but it's actually them doing this to us right yeah they can't they can't deal with any accountability in either either story we're talking about in any story law enforcement they would be like get rid
Starting point is 01:03:17 of all of them all the police too fuck right i don't yeah yeah they're gonna knock on my door and serve a warrant nope not me not today not on my watch not on my watch but i feel like if you if you had an ai that was like the most advanced ai and was designed to tell some media personality what to say at any given moment like oh why would you not do it well but and i feel like his take if if the only input that you care about is growing your audience like what what he did was probably the successful move in every case it's just wildly unaccountably unethical and you know damaging to civilization yes if you're yes but if you're following like i'm trying to grow my brand right the idea of saying dude this guy's got a seven o'clock prime time show and i could just tell him what to say yeah why would you not
Starting point is 01:04:20 do that yeah right yeah so like yeah you right. Like if it's the destruction of Western civilization, but like, you're like, I, but we eaten, but we eat no, a hundred, a hundred,
Starting point is 01:04:32 a hundred bands a day. Yeah. Fuck Western civilization. And they, but I think there's still a gap between how we think about this shit and how they think about this shit. And the fact that he like the Sandy Hook thing is almost'm still trying to get my mind around that like you don't have to have any like semblance any foothold in the truth like you are like that doesn't matter at all you can honestly stories you can honestly just make something up that's the part that yeah you're
Starting point is 01:05:19 right that like that's what i mean by like y'all the balls on this dude like you could just yeah you could just make it up yeah yeah and he is alex jones is like the takashi 69 of like punditry yes you know what i mean it's a spectacle it doesn't make sense it's a lot of a whole lot of energy it's not really that i mean man sometimes it kind of goes but for the most part it does but for the most part and the thing is like and the thing about like even back with using sagashi is a great example because it's like but we're all in on it right right like you know i'm saying where i'm like well i well we all know you snitched we all know you bought your way into this we all know you're lying right now on your show because you say it in court that this is entertainment we all know like what. But I don't think that generation does. I don't think they know.
Starting point is 01:06:07 I think they've willed themselves to not know the dopamine treadmill they're on. Tekashi's headlining a rap festival at the Villages, the retirement community of Florida. I was just going to say, his Target demo is now mid-seventh.
Starting point is 01:06:24 He's like, y'all think that election was stolen? They're like, ah! Prop, such a pleasure as always having you. Oh, man. Love y'all. Where can people find you, follow you, hear you, all that good stuff? Man, yeah, prophipop.com. That's all of my socials also.
Starting point is 01:06:44 Well, Prop Hip Hop is my socials, and then the website is prophiphop.com. That's all of my socials also. Well, Prop Hip Hop is my socials, and then the website is prophiphop.com. I think I'm the most excited about this cold brew. Ooh. Hey. Your boy got a cold brew. Oh, no, bro. What? Yes, yes, yes.
Starting point is 01:06:59 Check that out. You know what I'm saying? Terraform cold brew. Okay. Right? That's terraformcold.com i'm going into i'm fully in the coffee business now all right yeah so yeah man order yourself some just some single origin uh theopian beans it's shelf stable even if you ain't got to put it in the fridge you
Starting point is 01:07:16 should because it tastes better but um you can store it under there but yeah dog like i'm fully i'm i'm fully into the coffee business now oh amazing yeah okay amazing might have to pick up a 24 rack please do please pick up a 24 rack oh and is there a yes or some of the work of social media you've been enjoying yes there is let me pull up this link i'm actually super excited about this one there's this uh fabulous group text with my um my daughter's godparents and you know all the stuff that we can't ever share with our children. You know what I mean? Just funny jokes or whatever, right?
Starting point is 01:07:53 But this one is like you could share with your children. Anyway, it's this thread of food takes that just hit me so deep in my soul. So the account is The Nutrition Tea. That's the account. It's called The Nutrition Tea. And it's just a bunch of these screenshots from Twitter. One of them is, I just heard a lady ask for fruit punch Gatorade. Ma'am, it's pronounced red.
Starting point is 01:08:20 The word cake and rice cake really has got some nerve. The word cake and rice cake really has got some nerve. Getting catfished by food is another level of pain. And this one, this one is legitimately my house. And this is something that my wife and I beef over still. Every recipe should start with wash the dishes that are already in the sink because you're going to need some of those. I grew up in a place to where it was like if you went to bed and there was dishes in the sink everybody got to wake up you all have to get up because you know ants roaches bugs like you can't leave stuff in the
Starting point is 01:08:55 sink and the heat yeah we're in california you have to wash the things so there's always dishes in my sink and it drives me crazy and then there's another one when the microwave does the passive aggressive double beep when you forget your food i just want to know which bills you pay to be taking that tone with me beep beep yes and then the last one the last one is we've got to stop looking at legumes and thinking, I can milk that. That's it. Yeah. Draw a line. Draw a line. Who is that tweet from?
Starting point is 01:09:33 It's called The Nutrition T. It's an Instagram account. Amazing. Yeah. Miles, where can people find you and what is a tweet you've been enjoying? Find me at Miles of Gray on Twitter and Instagram. Also, if you like basketball, check out Miles and Jack Got Mad, Boosties, an NBA podcast, as well as 420 Day Fiance. If you want to hear me talk about 90 Day Fiance, which is a very, very terrible show, but I love trash reality. So what can you do?
Starting point is 01:09:59 That's how I get my, that's how I relax. You know, what can I say? Yeah. Okay. Some tweets I like. first one is from uh heathcliff it's me i'm danny at gallegos underscore underscore tweeted jane lynch is wario jamie lee curtis yes she is yes she is and also finally at zed dairy z-e-D-D-A-R-Y, tweeted a picture of Mar-a-Lago, and it says, FBI raids home of Epstein-linked Clinton donor. So, you know.
Starting point is 01:10:33 There you go. You can write those headlines anyway. They're also true. Yeah. A tweet I've been enjoying. Losing it at Prop. Oh, sorry. At Profit Husband. all right i've been i've been out for for a while all right i'm sorry what yeah at profit husband tweeted i'm developing an app
Starting point is 01:10:54 that lets you sublet your apartment for eight hours a day while you're at work it's called dwell r and it sells all your data to the saudi government and that's just a good like that's that person's gonna be a billionaire yeah that's just a good, like, that person's going to be a billionaire. Yeah, that's absolutely a billionaire. That's exactly how capitalism works. And then just a parenting one that I thought was pretty useful. Summer at HeBeryl tweeted, me to my four-year-old son, I just got off the phone with Santa and he is so angry about what you did. I'm genuinely afraid for your life we need to get you
Starting point is 01:11:27 in hiding because at this point i think he would even kill me to get to you can you imagine selling your child was that from that trader joe's manager i know right exactly i'm genuinely afraid for your life oh my my God. I'm genuine. Dude. I felt that because I think of the times a parent has switched up the tone on me. Like, I don't know what's going to happen. I'm like, no, but I need you to be confident about what's going to happen. My dad, uh, one time was, he had to be like the muscle at the Rick Pitino basketball camp at Kentucky university of kentucky which is like 800 kids coming from all parts of kentucky and like he has to make sure
Starting point is 01:12:11 nobody like breaks any rules or you know hurts themselves and at one point he like he was just ramping up the stories all week and at one point he said these kids were pushing on the stairs it was out of my hands they'll be calling their mamas from the slammer and my friends and i still talk about that damn yeah like straight up i think he i think he even mentioned it was like a federal matter or some shit uh anyways that's jim o'brien who you can hear uh me talk to on a recent episode of uh That's Jim O'Brien who you can hear me talk to on a recent episode of Miles and Jack. The latest episode, actually. The latest episode. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien.
Starting point is 01:12:51 You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at The Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, DailyZeitgeist.com, where we post our episodes and our footnotes. Footnotes. We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? Let's go out on an artist from West
Starting point is 01:13:12 London, Lava La Rue. Really dope artist from London. Kind of DIY vibes. A lot of really simple chopped samples on this track. It's called Vest and Boxers. And it's dope. It's kind of, I don't know who to like,
Starting point is 01:13:28 kind of liken it to. If you like Yeah Yeah Yeahs or like Tame Impala or you like any kind of like rocky rock stuff that still kind of has like a decent backbeat to it, you will definitely dig this. And great vocals from Lava La Rue. So this is Vest and Boxers. All right.
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