The Daily Zeitgeist - Fight Unions With NFTs? Where Have All The Tickets Gone? 4.07.22

Episode Date: April 7, 2022

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Hello, Internet. It is, let's see. Hmm. Hmm. Welcome, I want to say, to Season 231. Yes, I'm going to start there. Welcome to Season 231, Episode 4 of the Daily Zeitgeist. It's the production of iHeartRadio. And it's also this podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness.

It's Thursday, April 7th, 2022, which means it's National Burrito Day. Okay, I can get behind that. It's National Coffee Cake Day. I actually really like both of those foods a lot, so this feels right. And also, it's National Beer Day. I'm not, you know, I don't really fuck with beer that much, but hey, two out of three ain't bad. My name is Miles Gray, a.k.a. Good Kid Mad Hickey, because i had mad hiccups yesterday's episode apologies for that that's from hentron on the discord coming at me with that one and let me just get into it

who's my guest host today it's the guest host that everybody loves it's the one that i love it's the one that my mother loves said wait who's that person are they on more i said mom that's joelle anyway i'll say less please welcome the brilliant and talented joelle monique hey i'm so honored by your mom tell her thanks i love her by proxy oh yeah she said you can you can tell she's smiling she was saying like she can hear your that's the sweetest yeah yeah yeah she was was like sort of saying in Japanese, you could hear the smile on your voice. Oh, my God. I'm so blessed this morning. Thanks, Mom.

Shout out all moms out there. How you been? How you doing? Oh, you know, good, good. I was able to secure some tickets. I paid way too much. We can talk about it later in the show. Okay.

It's really, really a struggle to get tickets these days. To like what like uh just generally to anything what else multiverse of madness but yes to anything like if you're trying to get constant we'll talk about all about it but we are being held hostage by these online ticket sales companies and we demand freedom we deserve right right right okay well thank you we need to know more about that we will know more about that pretty soon. But first, let's get to our guest today. This guest, look, we always shout out her tweets.

Because the fucking Twitter feed is just a fucking inferno of hilarity. So we'd be stupid to ignore some of these hilarious offerings that we get on such a cursed website known as Twitter. But also, their stand standup is on point. Uh, you may know their podcast, young old pod. Maybe you heard of it. Maybe perhaps even you've seen them at funalingus, which they co-host every month. Uh, because I know we've had plenty of comedians who have been on that show. And I know a lot of y'all get out to standup shows, or maybe again, you just know this person because they're generally like all up in it. I don wherever i turn i feel like i'm seeing them in trades or just viral posts whatever it is but please welcome the amazingly talented

and hilarious dana donnelly thank you everyone happy national burrito day yes. What's your favorite burrito? I like shrimp burritos, weirdly. But I also just like, you know, I like anything. I like everything. Sure, sure, sure. Dana, that's not weird at all. A surf and turf burrito is absolutely peak. A little pico de gallo on that one. So good.

I love french fries in a burrito. I love a California burrito. Oh, yes. There we go. I love Peter Toss in a burrito. A breakfast burrito. I love Kofax bringing it bring it home yeah there's smoked potatoes that they put in the burritos at kofax they even like they even freeze them and ship them out now to be really they

that's like yeah people deserve them across the world it's a little bit i i had it uh like somebody was like oh i got like frozen kofax or whatever, like just have on deck. And I had it. I was like, it's it's good. It's still good. But there's, you know, obviously, like when something like a burrito cannot be frozen and then brought back to life. Yeah. Even if Evanescence is there to bring it back to life. So not like a pizza. Yeah. He'll snap right back. What's your favorite burrito, Joelle? Oh, favorite burrito?

Yeah. Breakfast burrito. Okay. Yeah, definitely. Or, listen, is a chimichanga a burrito? We can get into it. It's a deep fried burrito, which by nature makes it better. I really miss them. I used to live next to a little Mexican restaurant in Chicago that made little mini chimichangas.

Ugh, y'all. Divine. This is peaked. You might have to give me that name because I think I might be going Oh, y'all. Divine. This is Pete. You might have to give me that name because I think I might be going to Chicago at the end of the month. I will. Oh, my gosh. You have to support them.

They're the best. They're so cute. Yes, please. And also coffee cake. I don't know. Y'all, I was like one of these weird little kids who, to me, coffee cake at a certain point was like the highest dessert I could ever eat. You have a black grandma.

Of course you did coffee cake granny as a kid who was deprived of sugar like desperately deprived of sugar i like loved coffee cake right because you look at it you're like it's just a bunch of sugar on the top it's like the streusel i used to eat the like um streusel off the top like and just eat the brown sugar crumble butter stuff i'm like yes yes that's the shit man right like why don't we just have that on a plate like literally give me the streusel when my mom would like make it separately she'd make the streusel and then the cake and i literally would like eat the streusel right right right i'm down to just just sit down with a big old pot of streusel oh yeah you just

give me like get like a brown sugar and butter and like cinnamon mixed in a jar i'll just spoon it out yeah right exactly like this it's it's our new like Nutella. Just put it in a jar. Trader Joe's will start bagging it and then it's a wrap after that. Well, Dana, we're going to get to know you a little bit better. But first, we're going to tell the listeners what we're going to talk about today. Just talking about obviously rent is fucking ridiculous in no matter what city you live in. There's some cities where it's even more ridiculous and just generally need to bring up again why our rents are so high. It's a factor of many things. And human greed does actually factor into it, too. So don't be

too shocked when you hear about that. And then speaking of overlords, landlords or other lords in general, Howard Schultz, who, you know, the on again, off again, CEO of Starbucks. He's back trying to plead with the workers to not unionize. And he's doing it in the saddest fucking way possible. So we're just going to we're going to drink some some fucking one percenter tears in a second. And then we'll talk about just again, the tickets.

They're so hard to get. Websites crashing. Joelle is going to catch us up to speed on what the plight of the ticket seekers of this earth. We'll get to all that. But first, Dana, I've got to ask you, what's something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? Oh, okay. So I looked and one of the last things I searched was designer children's clothing. Okay. Okay.

Yes. And that's because I'm always looking for clothing in a size children's 12-14 because I'm really short. Okay. And it's like a little cheaper. So that's what I was looking for. I was going to say, aren't you blessed to be able to buy children's clothing but with your adult taste? Honestly, yeah. I'm not

gonna lie it makes it a lot easier and it's just like less competitive like things like don't sell out in a children's 12 oh right because there's not hypebeast using bots to buy like a size 12 to 14 for whatever right got you got you got you you must win on shoes too my feet aren't like exceptionally small that's the thing i'm kind of like i'm uh i'm a sturdy girl so you know i got i got six and a half i'm a normal normal shoe size oh yeah you're you're yeah you're going elbow to elbow with it yeah oh i'm fighting people for six and a half you know for sure what's uh what's like the last hype piece of uh you know fashion that you were not necessarily like overly hype but like something you were really stoked on getting and then maybe you were a little too slow to get oh um oh well there's this

there's this one designer i'm being so annoying this there's a designer like called danielle guizio and she has these corsets and they sold out really fast and i couldn't get one wow okay so there's hype corsets now there are yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I'm convinced like all these brands make like 20 of an item so that it can be like, oh, it's sold out. Right, right, right. I mean, I guess that is a good model. I mean, maybe we should try that with a podcast. I mean, there's only like so many downloads available. All downloaded out.

Exactly. But really, there's only two. And then you do four. And then you do six. And then I feel like maybe, hold on. It's an easy way to make demand seem really high. Yeah. And then you do four and then you do six. And then I feel like maybe, hold on, this is, hold on. It's an easy way to make demand seem really high. Yeah.

Because I mean, the Nike does that and most sneaker companies do that now. And people are like, what the fuck is this? Really smart. Doing. Yeah. Except for bleeding consumers, bone fucking dry. That's true. Yeah.

Joelle, what about you? Anything recently you were late to the draw on? Yeah, Telfar just did an, was it the olive green dropper? I also wanted the roast beef one. Listen, Telfar has me. Wait, roast beef? That's like a color. It's a color wave they dropped, which is like a pinkish, like a rose pink almost. It's like a medium rare It's a color. It's a color wave they dropped, which is like a pinkish, like, like a rose pink almost. It's like a medium rare.

Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Oh, shit. They call that rose pink? I don't know why, but I didn't care. At first I was like, ugh, the name. But then I was looking at the color and I was like, I have a lot of things that can match that. Right.

And I'm trying to expand my purse collection now. So I got the purses to match the sneakers. You know, I'm trying to put it together i need to get my brother's organized he buys the shoes first and then finds a t-shirt that matches yes i know your brother very well sweaters yeah yeah i'm not that way i'm like oh click buy and then i'll be like what does this go with and what is happening in this space right uh so it's messy but yeah i have my purple one and it's perfect my purple telphar i love it oh shut up becca drop in telphar links in the chat it's corn beef that was what it was

i want a shearling telphar so bad yes also like what a way to find out that your favorite color is actually corn beef and you just didn't even know the whole time right and where do you go with that information now like when you know you're like what's your what do you say with your seasons you know what's your season what what's what's the term i'm looking for with fashion look i'm dumb as fuck oh like are you a winter are you talking about like that like when people are like winter or summers or whatever yeah yeah yeah based on your colors that's like a really like 70s 80s thing i think okay that makes sense because i'm elderly and the last thing i heard that from was like a manager of mine.

No, I wasn't, but I remember I had a manager when I worked at Condé Nast who was older and would talk about that stuff. And I was like, what the fuck, season? Yeah, my mom was always talking about getting her colors done in the 80s and how it made her not wear certain colors for a really long time. And then she was like,

and I was like, oh, that's stupid. So anyway, yeah, corned beef. Shout out. I'm a'm a corned beef i think too this this is kind of dope it's like old chewing gum is what i would call it but that's not yeah that's kind of a weird thing to say if you're marketing it is like yo we could go we could go corned beef or old chewing gum that's what it's evoking for me but hey i'm gonna call it bubble yum there you go bubble yum 92 just to give it that you see that patina on it that little aged factor to it absolutely dana what's something you think is overrated oh overrated okay so i was at universal studios um the other day and we got like overrated what no i mean i like hold on i think i think i like

i love universal studios but we got like these like front of the line passes for the first time What? No, I mean, I like Universal Studios. Hold on. I think I like it. I love Universal Studios. But we got, like, these, like, front of the line passes for the first time ever. It's called the Universal Express. And we realized that we, like, don't like cutting lines. And it just, like, makes it, like, we, like, like to chat. Like, I, like, like a line. Yeah, that's true. There is something formative of, you know, your comrades when you're in a 90-minute line for a 20-second ride. You're trauma bonding.

And that's informative. Yeah. So what was the experience like when you began to realize it? When I began to realize that cutting the line wasn't that fun, I really was just like, oh, like, I'm excited to come back here and have to wait in line again. That was all. I was like, wow, I'm really missing something without the line portion of the experience sure because doesn't that make the day like just hours shorter when you take out all the waiting time yeah we did everything we want to do and it's two okay here's my thing with universal

too there's like two good roller coasters so it's like okay so now i have to go on these like 10 times each like it's right there's nothing that's That's the point, you know? Yeah. Wait, so, okay, Joelle, you were like, Universal is trash. And I want to hear this take, too. Okay. I'm just saying... Now, before you start, just know I grew up in the shadow of Universal Studios in North Hollywood. In the shadow of City Walk. I get it.

In the shadow of that King Kong thing hanging off the side of the building. But go on. I get it. And listen, from outside, driving up, you're like, oh, my God, it's about to be lit. Let's go. Like, universal. But once you get inside, you're like, is this the whole park? Is this everything?

You're like, no, there's a downstairs. There's a downstairs. Go to the downstairs. The lower lawn. She's been. Two or three rides. She's not gone. And then the Jurassic Park ride from the 70s.

Or why did you let the OG Grinch set get crispy out there? Y'all don't want to paint that up? Dude, it is. Whoville is decrepit. Whoville is so weird that they're still showing it. You take it down or paint it, but highlighting

that like it's a feature is weird. They've stopped highlighting. I remember them not discussing it on the tour, and I think it goes around Whoville now. That's good is weird i think they've stopped highlighting i remember them not discussing it on the tour and i think it goes around that's good because i think they've realized it's too dilapidated and people are like this is really sad right right how much would it cost to paint it's not a large set i'm just saying you could make it work upkeep right even the jaws part of it and especially here's the real problem if you must go to universal in california just don't go before you go before you go to the one in florida because one in florida is so freaking epic really jaws right down there oh my god i've never been the actual park it's it's like disney-sized park

it's disney-sized park when i hear about florida's versions of amusement parks being so much better than california's i'm like why californians are are very much like well first of all like you have to remember like disney built the park here first and so it's very like petite to what we're used to they've expanded a lot but because they're in pasadena which is an old town which is very aware of its chokehold on disney pasadena is not letting you get away with shit they're like listen you want to build a garage uh fine but we're gonna talk numbers am i am i on crack where is it at anaheim oh okay i don't know my small out of the way la town yet anaheim anaheim has a chokehold on disney right and they're very much about like making sure that it stays looking a certain way disney's trying to get some of these

older hotels out of the way but they're like no those are local business people it's like a whole to do and because of that it's small when they went to florida they opened up in a swamp ain't no jurisdiction in a swamp right it was like we're gonna build and build and build and it's fine we don't have to tear down to bring in new rides we can just build up a new ride and we can also just ignore shit if we don't fuck with it anymore yeah that's true that's true like it's abundance there you can't do disney or universal down there in a single day it would literally be impossible you couldn't even walk all of it in a single day so i swear you can't there's too many parks because you've got animal kingdom you've got the og park you've got epcot um which is actually cool because epcot you can drink there so they've got like drinks from around the world oh yeah it's so cool but universals down in florida

like when you get on their like dinosaur rides epic there um when i went i was little they still had the jaws ride which i think they've retired but it was like the most like the the shark is in the boat as opposed to here where you're like looking at a small lagoon. Yeah. And you're like, hey, that parking cone has teeth. And you're like, oh, that's a shark. Oh, yeah, there it is.

No, the thing comes up on the side of the boat and you think you're going to die. So it's just the levels are totally different. So they're doing it in Florida way. Yeah. The family aspects of like going back every year up here are really cute. I love Disneyland up here. It cute i love disneyland up here it's very sweet like a lot of people are like this is my second home this is where i go like you know three or four times a year uh but as far as amusement and actual fun you want to go to

florida yeah that seems to be the consistent thing yeah and i i get it universally there's like when you do the the backlot tour and you're like oh damn the war of the worlds thing looks real fucked up still and they're like no that's whoville um with the crashed airplane yeah yeah yeah oh no no yeah that's neglect that uh we cleaned up the war of the world set a long time ago when that shit first came out though the war of the world set that shit was so clean i remember being like whoa i really feel like now i know what it's like to be on the other end of american foreign policy but yeah it was a really cool uh cool vibe while it lasted dana what's something you think is underrated oh um i think like the broad multi-camera sitcom that people on the coast don't watch but that the midwest loves i love like just like the cheesiest broadest sitcom on the planet like and everybody loves raymond like i love like just like the cheesiest broadest sitcom on the planet like and everybody loves

raymond like i think like and obviously those aren't actually underrated they're like they are properly rated they're hugely rated but like i think they're underrated in like cool communities and i really like them i've been re-watching like two and a half men obviously you know some problematic elements but oh what happened is is everything cool with john wolf what's that guy's name john something that was the bad guy of the two right isn't charlie's what happened with charlie sheen i don't know wasn't he canceled for something oh my god charlie sheen's canceled i don't know i actually don't I'm just saying things. I have a lot of signed major league DVDs that I'm going to have to get rid of soon. If he is canceled.

I actually have no idea. I really don't know. He is. But I love it. So I'm joking. Wait. So are you saying the classics like you're dusting off the classic sitcom? Or do you even see any like what you're seeing now?

I'm really saying like you multi-cam sitcoms to like that. No one watches like theors on CBS or whatever. Wait, so what's that about? Exactly, The Neighborhood. It's like, it's like a, it's a multicam with like Max Greenfield and like Cedric the Entertainer. And it's like, it's like just the broadest multicam about a white family moving into a black neighborhood. And it's not great, but I'm like, there is something about it that I'm like, it's doing something. It's filling a void.

Right. You know, it's filling something. It's filling a void. Right. You know, it's filling a void that needs to be filled. Like the way you talk about it, it sort of reminds me of how I talk about terrible Christmas romance films that come out of Hallmark where it's like, yo, dude, the worse, the better. Yeah. No. Yeah. Yes.

I think I think like as the more the more like multicam, like the more that you could make fun of it for being stupid, the more I like it. Got it. Got it. got it got it got it got it so i mean i guess that's the other thing too like there's a comfort in like really predictable like writing also i love a laugh track i'm like tell me okay wait so okay what's if you're gonna put somebody onto a sitcom right now what would you what would you recommend um honestly i'm like i'm just telling everyone i know to watch rewatch two and a half men and they don't like it and they're like they're like stop telling me to watch that of it all and it's fucking dope okay cool elementary oh yeah actually but elementary is like like good like that's single cam. This is different than what I'm talking about.

It's like that's good. We're talking. That's not what I'm talking about. It's like an opiate for your brain. You feel like you're on Xanax. I call that Listen, no. I call that Depression TV.

I am way into it. My Depression TV was Friends for a long time i don't really like anybody on that show as a human being like not the actors are fine but like the characters you know difficult human beings would not want to live with but man something about that show was just like i'm gonna get through the day and it's gonna be fine it's gonna be okay and if once you watch a show so many times now you know the beats of it and when you can start saying the lines with yeah like it's time to get out of bed i have to go do something that's how i was with the office and i was like like the the uk and american version of the office i would i would

like sing i would like i could like like you're saying you know the beats of it to the point like i think i'm just listening to music now no no no the office is music i mean obviously i can do a karaoke to every episode of The Office. Right. You know, like, yeah, like a man on hinge. I'm like, wow, I can really, I know every line of The Office. See? I don't know what it is about it.

I don't know what it is about it. I think it's just good. Although, recently there was that episode where someone took a dump on Michael in Michael's office and on the carpet. And he says this thing where i'm like i've always been like you know since like you know we've been more aware of like ignorance in workplaces and more sensitive to it like especially after 2020 i'm like michael scott rubs me in such a fucking like the wrong way like it's weird how my relationship to michael

scott has changed over the years and i'm like this motherfucker is the exact problem with all these but isn't that the point like i think it is yeah it is but i think i've i then i've i shifted to this place of like i don't know how funny sometimes like even benign ignorance can be to me anymore but it's but it's like it ebbs and flows because other times i watch it i'm like this shit is so stupid i love it but so in my mind like when people always talk about you know they always speculate like what would the office be doing now or whatever i'm like dude this guy would be such an alt-right person and then in the in the fucking episode he's like i love joe rogan he brings up fear factor and he goes pretty much love anything joe rogan does and i was like okay there's exhibit a yeah i mean that's that's who michael scott is for sure i mean i always think about the episode

where he pretends like they have to stay an extra hour because of something corporate wants them to do. Just so we can make sure that they all come to his party. Right, right, right. Because he's like, well, I know that you thought you were going to stay late. So you don't have any plans. You have to come to my party. Right. And I'm like, that's so funny and crazy.

That's sick. And still no one comes to his party. Or, I mean, one of my favorites is Dwight's date to the dinner party that he wasn't invited to. Okay, anyway, this is not an Office podcast. We actually have that. It's called The Office Deep Dive with Brian Baumgartner on the network. So check that shit out, not this one. All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be right back after this.

I'm Jess Casavetto, executive producer of the hit Netflix documentary series Dancing for the Devil, the 7M TikTok cult. And I'm Clea Gray, former member of 7M Films and Shekinah Church. And we're the host of the new podcast, Forgive Me For I Have Followed. Together, we'll be diving even deeper into the unbelievable stories behind 7M Films and L.A.-based Shekinah Church, an alleged cult that has impacted members for over two decades. Jessica and I will delve into the hidden truths between high-control groups and interview dancers, church members, and others whose lives and careers have been impacted, just like mine. Through powerful, in-depth interviews with former members and new, chilling firsthand accounts, the series will illuminate untold and extremely necessary perspectives. Forgive Me For I Have Followed will be more than an exploration. It's a vital revelation aimed at ensuring these types of abuses never happen again. Listen to Forgive Me For I Have Followed on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. overwhelmed. Or can I negotiate a higher salary if this is my first real job? Girl, yes. Each week,

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we are back. Rent, high enough for you? Just a quick question. Everybody, you know, good? Good with rent? Okay, perfect. Let let's move on um look rent rates have everybody knows like i think anecdotally they're like what the fuck is going on with rent if you're moving space places you're like the rent has gone up at a ridiculous amount new yorkers i know we're like the rent fucking nosedive for a second and now they're essentially like when with your application for a new place they also do a little strong arm robbery, hold you at knife point and pat your pockets down. And they're like, all right, thanks.

Welcome to the new renters market. On paper, right? Rents have increased by an average, like nationally, 17% based on one year ago. They've gone up 17%. That's when you average the shit out. Other places, it's fucking worse. Austin, Texas, for for example the shit has gone up 40 percent dallas fort worth area up 25 percent and i think again most people like what the fuck

is going on like it's not like like it's a fucking building how is the shit more money right now is it what is happening why are we at the will of the landlords and these costs well when you look at it there's a few different factors and i think most many people are very sensitive to this naturally because we're at a point in in time at the moment where gas prices are ridiculous food prices are going up and most people's wages are like stagnant uh if not like the opposite of a living wage uh like a joke wage almost yeah so but not funny just imagine congress being like uh you could have a joke wage wage is no longer uh applicable you can't reach it but living allow you to pay them a joke wage

they'll laugh about it it'll be great here's some pay them a joke wage. They'll laugh about it. It'll be great. Here's some. How about a lol wage, huh? Yeah, lol wage. Three cents an hour. You fuck with that? Ha ha! Joking! Or am I? Or am I?

Not for prisoners. Oh, that's about accurate. Right. No, I mean, we're all staring down the gun of not being housed unless you work to be a, what is it? A productive member of society as it were. So you look at what's going on and depending on the factors you look at, there's a number of explanations, but the biggest thing is that there's just not enough housing, right? One of the biggest things that is factoring into all of this is that there just aren't like appropriate homes available for the kinds of people that need them. So if there's not enough

homes to meet the demand, that means there's no fucking pressure or competition from landlords to do anything about it. You know what I mean? Because then they're like, oh, what are you going to do? Like we're the only few rackets in town that have like a single family housing unit that isn't like $7,000 a month. So guess what? I can set the rate because if you're not going to pay it, some other person more desperate and maybe with slightly more money than you will pay it. And I get to do my thing. And I think, you know, when you look at how cities overemphasize like luxury high rise condos, like for example, like LA, we have less places for people to live that don't descend from like oligarchy so you mean you have these landlords

that have us all by throw it reminds me just like the internet service in most places where there's like only two companies so they're never incentivized to have it fucking work because they're like what are you gonna do go to the other shitty one anyway shout out spectrum that's like kind of like the same way it's looking with housing, too, where people are looking at, you know, they're looking at people needing housing and sort of being like, well, I don't know. I mean, if you're not going to pay it, someone else will. And this is becoming just an increasingly dire situation. And I think, you know, the other elements to this is that construction is slowed down because the materials cost too much. But this is the other part.

The materials cost too much. But this is the other part. Most people, right, because of the pandemic, they are beginning to look at their own living spaces differently. We saw that, how people began all these sort of DIY projects at home or trying to make their home offices and things like that. People want more space, more privacy. And a lot of people don't fucking want roommates anymore if they can afford to not have roommates. lot of people don't fucking want roommates anymore if they can afford to not have roommates so that's also creating just this perfect storm that also allows allows for human greed to be a bit distorted or at least camouflaged by these other factors but yeah i don't know if i don't know how much things have changed if y'all have moved or your perception of what you need for where you live has where you live has changed

since the pandemic but yeah we moved january 2021 which was a great time to move oh my god prices in in the basement a whole bunch of new properties had just gone up and they were like how are we going to fill them oh right it's crazy that intense pandemic time right so we sort of felt like we had you know our pick and it was nice because we had all sort of just started making like real people money so long freelance and uh it was helpful we are now moving again for a multitude of reasons mostly because when you buy a house that goes up quickly you you get real thin walls. Frustrating. So I guess similar to a lot of people being like, we don't want roommates. We just wanted to be silent in our own home.

Right. You don't want to hear someone else having nightcare. No. Not at all. You buy a house. I've lived in apartments mostly that were built in the 70s. There was like a big boom between the 50s and early 70s in California. And all those houses, super solid.

Like you couldn't hear anything. It was perfect. Now there's a lot of property going up, but not a lot of information available about like when it's going to be finished. I'm guessing that's a supply chain issue. But my other concern is, to your point, a lot of it's happening in like single family communities where we're seeing a big gentrification, a lot of gentrification. Gavin Newsom signed a new bill into law late last year, which was like two housing bills that allowed for denser housing on single family lots, which on the one hand seems like a really good opportunity to alleviate the housing crisis

in California, more houses in smaller spaces. You know, we're seeing a lot of townhouses go up. But on the other hand, like these communities that have long been, let's face it, predominantly like Mexican are dying now. They're quickly being gentrified. And that's sort of, I don't want to be a contributor to that cause, but I also need a place to live.

So it's a difficult out here for pretty much everyone just trying to find a place to live so it's it's a difficult out here for pretty much everyone just trying to find a house to live and i don't know ellie's got a lot of work to do if we're gonna resolve this crisis i mean yeah who should we vote for for mayor to make it better do you guys know oh my god i'm no obviously rick caruso yeah yeah i mean he's gonna turn into the growth like i just want to live in a free people. So that's so much to ask. Right. No, no, no. It's, I mean, I mean, you look at most people who, like, running for mayor of LA, like, you're beholden to commercial, like, real estate developers, no matter what. Well, again, like, one guy is a developer. It's just like, he's literally a developer.

literally developer yeah yeah no it's uh it's he's like hey you know the places where like you almost don't believe that unhoused people don't exist yeah those are all the shopping malls i built because i work me and the lapd are like fucking this i actually used to be the the president of the police commission with people don't realize that about me either i'm rick caruso folks yeah and which is funny because most people who have that position for the LAPD commission are typically private citizens or always private citizens, but real estate people, like whether they have a hand in rejuvenating downtown or people like Rick Caruso just shows you the relationship between the police and private property. So just beyond this though, too, like this is all sort of against a backdrop where, you know, so many people's financial situations are tenuous, not even even before the pandemic, but even now because of the pandemic. There's this study that was that was done before the pandemic that said in cities like L.A. where the rent is so high, a 5% increase in rent could drive thousands to become unhoused.

That's all it takes is fucking 5 percent to throw everybody's finances off and we're now in a thing where you're looking in some areas they're taking you know we're looking at an average of 17 you know what happens with the regulations around this we shall see but i mean until then without an emphasis on like affordable housing like you know you we can't have people continue to be like, because you see so many, so much of this shit in LA too, where people are like, I just feel like, you know, there's like so many homeless people like around. And like, if there's like, I don't know what, I don't know what to do. It's like, you don't know what to do. Give them housing and advocate for that. It's not a complicated concept.

Full board. Yeah. concept yeah and it's so interesting when i talk to people who seemingly have their head in the right place when it comes to other societal ills that they're like okay they understand about like the proliferation of like police militarized police and like white supremacy and all this other shit but then their empathy like stopped suddenly for people who are like not doing well and it's like well i don't know like they just shouldn't like there was like poop oh like all over this like transformer box i walk the dog by all the time it's like i just wish they could just like move them somewhere but you need to invest in the actual the ideas and the concepts that will alleviate people or alleviate homelessness and not just be

like it's gross and I don't like to see it. If you don't, if you really care enough, don't just turn it into a thing of I'm disgusted by the reality that people are destitute because I think that's the thing most people are butting up against. Like, I don't like the idea of having to acknowledge that like some people could be doing so terribly. And I'd rather just not have that in my peripheral vision because I'm just trying to do my thing. But really taking that and focusing that into, oh, what are the actual solutions to this? And that is affordable housing. Or just looking at all the people, you know, the money that we've put aside as a city that many residents are like, oh, we can't have that.

We can't have that in my backyard. Not even affordable housing yet. Well, we're seeing it like even in, you know, I mean, most recently, Dave Chappelle went on a tirade in his own community where he was like, if you build these were essentially Section 8 houses for people, I'll pull all my money out of the city and bounce. And it was like, dude yeah homelessness is not a crime and and the fact that we criminalize it doesn't make it a crime like we don't have to be afraid of people without housing that's just bananas yeah but i think that's reveals the the whole you know the game there is if you criminalize being poor then you have to work, right? And then there's no option but for you to toil because the only other recourse you have

is to become unhoused or not be able to pay your bills. And then, yeah, you'll begin to meet the other part of law enforcement. That's just such a bananas statement because I feel like there's not that many people who don't want to work. And I don't mean like, of course, most people don't dream of,

listen, most people don't dream of labor most people don't dream of labor and if they could do something else they probably follow their dreams you know right but most people have like something they want to do i mean like like most people don't want to just like sit around and like be complacent like most people do want to contribute to society it's just like in what capacity do they want to do that it's like right you know it's be like do i want to work, you know, like work at a quick service like restaurant or damn, it'd be fucking chill if like I could have a writing career because I'm really creative. I just don't. There's no outlets for that because I'm not in close enough proximity to benefit from like the social networks you need to enter show business. Anyway, yes it these are all

things that you know you think could be better managed but yeah we're still looking at the same situation and like i was reading an article from 2014 that was like why is the rent so darn high they're still pointing at the exact same problems and so you know the the slow slow boil of progress continues i guess or at least i don't know i mean at least landlords are seem to be kicked up uh becca said it's up 200 in new york city in some places oh i mean there's like tiktoks that i see of like um people like apartment hunting in new york city and like there's line for these over over overpriced apartments like lines like you can't even get one so it's like regardless of whether you're willing to pay

an insane like amount of money for a really tiny tiny place it's like you still can't even get it because like literally like 500 people want this to overpay for the same shitty place like it's so bananas i saw another tiktok of something about like i think it was in north carolina or something like near ashville where like this realtor was like this is a house that's going up for like for to be seen and it's one of the only houses that's actually like at a price that makes sense for human beings who aren't like you know completely like unable to you know you're just maybe doing a terrible loan or whatever but the most reasonably housed or a priced house. And they were shooting

this Tik TOK, dude, the peep it, you thought, I don't even know. I don't know what kind of crowds I've seen like this, like outside just for people to see an affordable home. And when you, when you see that that's, there's that many people looking for it, go a few levels lower to people who might not even be in the market to buy a house, but to rent a house. And then from there, you have an even more ludicrous market where you have people being able to set the prices because, you know, whatever. Somebody was tweeting the other day about how their landlord was mad because they were two days late and the bank like tagged the landlord because their mortgage payment was late. And they were like, am I my landlord's like head of household? Am I the beneficiary supporting my landlord's lifestyle?

That is madness. madness that's why i think that's why landlords have get such terrible flack because more people are sort of aware because there are people who are just straight up landlords who like my job is to just collect your wages and then pay for this property and that's what i do and then because it's wild when you see on on especially on tiktok and reddit you got like these pro landlord spaces where people are like i can't believe people are saying like i'm a dick because i raised the rent 50 i have bills too that i extract through passively having this property that i may have inherited or whatever and i get that some people inherit houses and are landlords and you're not trying to fuck people over but there's damn sure a lot more people who look at land being a landlord as the way out but there's also like this section of tiktok where it's like literally like

it's like how to become a landlord tiktok and like sometimes i'll get my page and it's like he's like with like little fun music and it's like this cute like girl in her like early 30s and she's like this is how like i make five hundred thousand dollars a year with four airbnb properties that i put no money down on and it like, and it's like basically trying to get you also to do the same kind of like Airbnb scam. And I'm right. And, and, you know, and why, and you, you can see why that is attractive, right? Because so many people are like scrambling to figure out how to survive. And right now, some of the examples you'll get on social media are these people who are like young, dressed nice, got all the consumer items that, you know, someone who's struggling would probably want themselves.

And the way that they're presenting their lifestyle is like, the way I did it was to exploit other people's need for housing, y'all. And this is how you do it. Look for some distressed properties. Like I see those videos too. for some distressed properties like i see those videos too and there's no there's no real awareness as to what that means like what what what cycles you're perpetuating by getting into this idea of like lucrative landlord or your landlorderism or whatever well those are like they're not discussing like where is this money coming from and the money's coming from other people who are like

working shitty jobs it's just like it's so bad but now i don't have to work and i have a i have a lambo payment now but yeah go off landlords um speaking of overlords i want to check in with howard schultz who is the on again off again starbucks ceo as i mentioned earlier and he is again he's fighting for his corporate overlord life right now the historic unionization of a Starbucks in Buffalo was a high point for people who are actually invested in labor rights and equity. But if you're in the C-suite of a publicly traded company, it looked more like when the spaceships from Independence Day pulled up, like where they're looking at that and they're like, ah, they're trying to fuck us up. And that was and that's why we see so much money going into union busting and fucking with people who are trying to organize unions in their workplaces.

So he was so concerned. Right. He came out of retirement to try and reason with the people, with some of these employees in Buffalo. This was back in November when we covered it, there was that clip of him like likening like the unionizing workers to like people in the Holocaust who are sharing a blanket to like keep themselves from not dying in the freezing cold. And he's like, and that's what we try and do at Starbucks is share the blanket as a way to be like, so you don't have to unionize where you're like, I'm sorry, who are the Holocaust victims in this metaphor? Exactly exactly what are you saying so that obviously went to the sound of crickets those workers successfully unionized and you know this is

like the thing that a lot of people who are you know who are omg afraid of unionizing they see places like starbucks that have so many locations that if slowly they begin to unionize more and more that a company that hires so many people has like such a sort of baseline for what is equal pay that affects fucking everyone else in the space. That's why you see so much money being poured into it because down the road, they're like, then I have to make less monies. So when that didn't work, he returned to his post as, as, as CEO. And he's been, you know, presumably because he thinks he can keep the unionizing from happening. And he had another employee roundtable discussion again recently. And my God, this is him getting, you're not employees, we're partners. You guys are partners. Even though you don't have any stake in the profits of this place, we're partners, right? And he wanted to just kind of let everybody know all the cool stuff that's

happening at Starbucks, basically as a way to sort of say like, we're going to stop. He said, we'll stop doing stock buybacks. And we're actually going to pour that money back into the company. They're like making better stores, maybe wages, who knows, won't say that explicitly. making better stores, maybe wages, who knows, won't say that explicitly. And just, you know, making things nicer for Starbucks as it is. The people, again, were so fucking bored at this event that then he goes on and be like, okay, that didn't work. What else can I get these, these like really poor working people? How can I get them excited about the future of Starbucks? Listen to this fucking pivot. Okay, how many people have followed what has been happening with NFTs?

They're long. Nervous laughter. How many people have participated in investing in NFTs? We're poor bitches. How are you doing? Okay, for now. Okay. So if you look at,

I've tried to be a student with all this, not being a digital native. If you look at the companies, the brands, the celebrities, the influencers that are trying to create a digital NFT platform and business, I can't find one of them that has the treasure trove

of assets that Starbucks has. From collectibles to the entire heritage of the company. So, not any entertainment industry with solidified characters, art,

stories, way, way backed up has more than i'm sorry the drink company starbucks right you sound like an idiot and that's just on a business level amblin amblin entertainment as a production company has more exploitable ip and fucking starbucks but again this is what he was saying he was dangling he's like wouldn't that be sick this is what he was saying he was dangling he's like wouldn't that be sick like y'all like starbucks is gonna start doing nfts how the fuck does that benefit these people and what the fuck did you think they were gonna be like ah finally because what he'll he'll pivot to and you know who's gonna get first first swipe at those nfts y'all the partners that is what's wild to me is these you know millionaire billionaire ceos coming to talk to folks who make one 120th of their salary a year you know and not ever sitting down

to actually address these issues but like talking to them like they're at a board meeting you know it just it doesn't compute at all to their daily lives. You're not at all addressing their needs or concerns. You're just adding frivolous things to a company that they genuinely don't care about. Here's the thing you need to understand. If you're paying your employee minimum wage, if you're paying, and most likely if you're paying your employee $10 over minimum wage, they don't give a shit about your company. They don't care.

It's not a family to them. They don't have the time. They came in here to make sure their kids could eat. It's from the last story where it will be criminal to not have a job. Those are the stakes. That's why I'm here. Not because I love you, Howard. Even if they really enjoy making their little latte foam art or, you know, this Starbucks is a hub in their community and people come in and use the internet and that feels warm and fuzzy to them. Even if those things are true, it's still most likely not their dream place. Most of them are not like, oh, I can't wait to open a Starbucks of my very own.

They literally just came here to work. so that, you know, our jobs have to support our health care when our jobs have to support us past retirement. Then it's important that jobs do those things. Like you really can't have it both ways of being like, well, we don't want the government to like support people independently. You know, they got to work. But we also aren't going to make it so that workplaces have to support people in a way that is realistic. going to make it so that workplaces have to support people in a way that is realistic no and please don't unionize and make us have to actually honor those honor that relationship where i'm telling you we're a family and this is the thing even though the nfts thing didn't fucking everyone laughed at that one he then just fully takes the fucking mask off and hits people with his

assessment of what workers fighting to have stable and life-sustaining wages looks like unionizing this is this is his unionizing uh take here's where it gets a little sensitive because i've been coached a little bit but i do want to talk about something pretty serious we can't ignore what is happening in the country as it relates to companies throughout the country being assaulted in many ways by the threat of unionization. You can't assault a company without a person. Literally using the word assault for that is actually truly so absurd. Someone coached him to say that? No, I think he was coached to not say that.

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like recently I was offered a gig from somebody who's like, yeah, I'd have to bump you down to assistant and work your way up. This person wealthy, their whole existence born into like family name wealth. And I was like, as much as I appreciate, I guess the offer to come work for you. Like I've risen to an executive status. I can't go back to it. I just literally could not work your way up though. Literally cannot afford to go back to.

And he was like, Oh, well my current assistant can't afford it either, but she really wants the gig. I don't know what to tell you, bro. I can't be your, I can't do what she's doing.

And it's just, it's a complete unawareness of like what it is to just try to survive. But again, these are the same people who, if you ask them, what's a gallon of gas cost? You know, I read recently that you're mostly impacted by the inflation if you make less than 300K a year. I instantly felt called out. I was like, oh, I'm poor. Cool. Great.

Wait, 300K was the thing that's like like yeah if you make above 300k you're not really being impacted by the inflation and so that's kind of puts into perspective for a lot of people like oh this is the difference of and 300k is not even touching extreme wealth right no that is it's it's just hard to conceptualize how people could be so upset about like maybe you can't afford your second yacht but you know other people are literally just trying to keep an apartment we have family every year i'm like shocked by the idea of families piling into their car because it has air conditioning and just driving around as a means to keep their families like cooled off yeah the disparity is it's unconscionable to come and then talk to these people and play in their face like this um but i'm glad the internet gets to roast him hold on and i also think it's like

people like him don't know any poor people like he literally knows no poor people so it's like that you know people like that they will say like no you, you know, I used to I used to be I used to be a working guy back in 72. Yeah, I was working with this guy, this fellow. He he came from Laos in Asia and we were we were working together shoulder to shoulder. And he told me how how much better it was here in the US. And I think about that. How do I give that to my employee? Like that's like the weird class awareness that these

people pretend to have it's like it's from 60 years ago not pre-credit score yeah exactly I also like yeah like you used to be able to like rise up a little higher it's like now you can't

I mean it's the playing field is so tilted now. It's very hard to know who actually has a head start because most people look like they're starting from some kind of deficit. But yeah, you know what? Bezos and Schultz, they've poured a lot of money into busting the unions at their respective companies, because, again, that upfront spend of spending millions of dollars now to just even prevent, like when you even say, dude, that 4 million would have kept those people

from wanting to unionize if you just invested in them. They're like, no, no, no, because then I'd have to do it everywhere. If I just do this one 4 million to completely go outside the bounds of the law to union bust, that's better for my long-term goal of making as much money as possible

than to have people collectively bargaining for a fair share no join such support your local workers revolution it's happening it's among us yeah it's everywhere that's the thing i'm like you know what i i know they're not liking this because the momentum is definitely uh not with them at the moment. It's definitely with the workers. Well, the people see they can win. And the thing is, like Kellogg had to find out the hard way, we will just stop working because there's not that much of a difference. Right.

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and on top of that y'all have sites that are just always crashing. Okay? Marvel's Multiverse of Madness starring Doctor Strange, a.k.a. Benedict Cumberbatch, went on sale yesterday. And while Marvel fans, a.k.a. me, are excited to get their hands on tickets, we once again run into the ever-plaguing problem of crashed sites. And coming off Marvel's last release, which was Spider-Man No Way Home, created in partnership with Sony, And coming off Marvel's last release, which was Spider-Man No Way Home, created in partnership with Sony. And when considering the 20 plus years of online ticket sales, it's a devastating issue.

OK, it is the most important issue of our time. And we have to get to the bottom of it. Now, we can maybe forgive the Spider-Man crash. Movies and by proxy ticket sales sites have took a huge like hurting during the pandemic. OK, we almost lost a lot of major theater chains and like spider-man did eventually become the first pandemic era released to break the 100 million opening weekend mark which was great it showed like sustained growth for the industry and i understand that because we had taken a break maybe people weren't expecting the ticket sales to be that high bless i totally understand several months

after that though we are still dealing with harry styles pre-release tickets for europe crash ticket masters website and even other like smaller sites like skittle which is a uk-based company it's skiddle not like candy over here you know they received a lot of backlash when they were trying to promote a Fatboy Slim Beach show. Crash the entire thing. People who had been in line for hours were suddenly bumped back to like 76,000th place. It is not a sustainable business model. And when you consider the facts that the money that fans spend are not going to your ex or even to the venues housing them, but mostly to the corporation selling these tickets.

It becomes very frustrating. Now, it's not. Well, I guess I'll pause there. Are you guys? Is it just me? Are you guys also experiencing ticket sales burnout? Are you enjoying the way tickets are being sold to you? I mean, okay.

Like, to be honest, I've just been using the AMC app. And that seems to work pretty well. No, it will crash day one. I spent two hours this morning trying to get tickets on my A because I have stubs. And I was like, I'm going to get my stubs points. Okay, which means I get a free ticket. I get all my points. But you're going for like a big release thing, right?

You're saying like for you, because you're trying to get that that thursday night yes yeah thursday night vibe but i'm but dana are you even fucking with thursday night vibes no i'm like us like i'll go like sunday 11 a.m okay so we're i think we're dealing with two different my doctor strange tickets so i'll got you those soon i respect those that they just went on sale yesterday but i guess what was frustrating for me through the process of trying to buy through the amc subs app and they know because i reached out to them on twitter um it it's frustrating to be trying to purchase tickets and i understand like they they created a queue system which they didn't have for spider-man this

i just crashed you had to wait like a full like five or six hours go back try to purchase your tickets they had a queue system which i was excited about they were like in two minutes you'll be able The site just crashed. You had to wait like a full like five or six hours, go back, try to purchase your tickets. They had a queue system, which I was excited about. They were like, in two minutes, you'll be able to buy your tickets. You'll have 10 minutes. And I was like, oh, they resolved the issue. Perfect. I hop in line. I wait the minute.

I go in to purchase the ticket. And it just kept coming up. Error, error, error. Maybe it's the app. Maybe the app can't support all the traffic. I'll go to the website. Exact same error pops up. Now, why in the hell do you have me in a queue waiting to join

to purchase tickets if it doesn't work? And then, on top of that, because the AMC app crashed when I went to Fandango, which does allow you to put your Stubbs card in so you can still get your membership points, because the AMC app was crashed, it would not calculate my Stubbs card as being active because it can't tap

into the amc site to confirm the number oh god so they just start scalping truly it was hell uh if you could scalp a theater ticket i would if i lived closer to the amc i would have just popped over there for a second and purchased them at the window unfortunately i just paid full price on fandango you can listen for AMC members. You know, you can go in and have them retroactively attach it to your Stubbs card, I guess. But like three tickets is like $76. Listen, I'm not a parent. I'm sorry, parents, that you have to deal with this.

This is so much money. But I also just think that we've been doing this for 20 years. 20 years of online ticket sales. Why is this not a resolved issue why can't you tell me to come back at like three o'clock my spot will be reserved you do it on the phone all the time you're like hey we're just gonna bounce back and call you in a minute when we have some time and available people they're not gonna sort it out because you you like you're saying they make too much money well they make so much money i mean ticket resales are like a huge it's like a huge

market i mean same with what we were talking about with like um like resale hype stuff right it's like wait what's the secondary ticket market look like oh oh my god well okay like i mean i know like ticket master but i mean like like like i mean there's like stub hub there's like oh yeah why am i acting like i don't even on even on Ticketmaster, like, on ATX, it's, like, they have, you have access to, like, the actual ticket prices. Right. But then, like, once those, don't those tickets out, then they have other people selling their tickets that they bought for market value for, like, $410, like, what they bought it for. Yeah. Like, that's why I was looking for Lorde tickets the other day.

And, like, you can't buy a Lorde ticket for, like, for like under 600 but it's still through the main ticket website and so i'm like so like now it looks like atx is charging 600 but it's like they're not but they are it's just like i hate it it makes me so upset and this has been like a huge issue like with especially concert tickets about like this intermingling of the promoters the ticket sales outlets and how they are like only putting out limited numbers and having like basically controlling the market to their own benefit it's infuriating yeah we don't even have time to get into the like pre-credit card situation where like a lot of times credit cards will be like we bought a bunch of tickets and to our right of members oh my god the american express shit like literally drives me insane although my credit score is not good enough

for american express they don't like me over there but i'm coming for you so i can get these tickets it's such a problem right oh but there's some hope there's a website called tix art i'm pretty sure that's how you say it it's t-i-x-r and they've implemented what they're calling waitlist technology that enables those who've been shut out of live events to commit with a credit card to purchasing a ticket so basically you're saying there's enough money on this credit card should an additional show become added to the schedule now what i like about this is it shows both the artists and the venue how many more like shows you could potentially do and it invites artists to say like oh hey yeah i will do a second show in this area if there's that many tickets sold it goes through and

automatically you're waitlisted immediately to join that second showing, which I think is a brilliant idea. Like if AMC wants to be like, hey, we have this many number of shows for this day, but if we have enough people committed, we'll just dedicate another theater. I mean, let's be honest, on a big opening night,

you pretty much turn all of your theaters into whatever the Marvel or like big screening is anyway so it just things like that give me a little bit of hope just because i think it's become too much of an issue you remember back in the old days you just walk up to a venue well what are the yeah but in the old days didn't people like camp out overnight to me i'm like whatever this is is easier than that yeah i remember my dad and I went to a ticket. We went to Tower Records where you could buy, where there was a ticket master desk to buy tickets to see UB40 and Us 3. Wow.

I remember their song, Cantaloupe Island. That was like in every shampoo commercial. But with that Tixer company, are they doing it with big acts or is it mostly small acts? Because I feel like that's the thing. That's the piece that has to come into place. I feel like if you're a big artist you're probably doing your tour like aeg or something like that and they're already in bed like live nation or whatever they have their way of distributing tickets so i wonder if like it's going to take artists to say i have to

break away from this company to be able to even do business with something that's more equitable in terms of like ticket sales yeah they started with a large like weekend event for something called dead and company um so it's like i think grateful dead come on you're not a grateful dead okay no definitely dead and company is apparently a band that has old grateful dead members and new ones are like including john mayer got it okay so dead and company like when you bought these tickets you were not just getting tickets to the show but also like housing and stuff like that so the tickets were exponentially more expensive than like your average concert ticket but it sort of showed like that there is resources for this kind of maneuver so i'm hoping that we can at the very least like we've just got done talking about how there's not a lot of competition and like a lot of these ticket websites you know i think especially ticket master and live nation

have a chokehold on the system so i don't know how much competition there will be and so maybe they'll never need to evolve but it just seems to me if i could have bought these tickets the same way in 2000 there should be a better system in 2022 so We'd hope for. And we'll have to wait and see. But until then, I think we're going to be just at the will of these. I mean, really, the only other way is just to wait last minute and then find someone who's desperately trying to unload their tickets so you can get them at face value. That's typically what I do. Yeah, but then it's like a huge game of chicken. It is.

No. It is. But you got to sometimes have the confidence of 1,000 suns like when i went to coachella in 2009 for like yes i think coachella is a really good is a really good thing to just like wait out because like i know i've seen so many instagram stories recently that are like i'm selling for a hundred dollars i'll say i bought it for like who wants to go like weekend two no i'm waiting till the day of i'll come to you right now and i'll drop them off for 20 bucks please take it i'll give you 20 bucks. Just send me pictures.

But anyway. Dana, thank you so much for joining us today on the Daily Zeitgeist. Always a pleasure. Thank you for having me. Where can people find you and follow you, see you, listen to you and all that? You can find me on Twitter at Dana Donnelly and at BadDana and DanaBad. You can find me on Instagram at HottestDana. You can find me on TikTok at Hottest you can find me on tiktok at hottest dana

perfect also the pod you got the pod subscribe to my podcast young old on youtube and all podcast listening platforms come to my monthly show second sunday's the hotel cafe in hollywood there it is uh and is there a tweet that you are liking enjoying that you want to share with us this tweet is by biker smooth at biker underscore smooth and the tweet is quote i was bullied by everyone in school and quote well were you being weird and i really identified that with that because i was someone who was bullied by everyone in school and it was because i i being weird. Oh, God. But were you being weird? Were you being weird?

Joelle, thank you so much for joining me these last few days. Where can people find you and follow you and what's a tweet that you like? Y'all know me. I'm Joelle Monique. You can find me all over the internet at Joelle Monique. It's J-O-E-L-L-E-M-O-N-I-Q-U-E. Y'all, please come follow me. I have exciting podcast news. I can't share

it yet. It's not ready, but it's coming. Lots of new stuff. Very excited about it. A tweet I'm enjoying is from Rapper Plies, whom we love, who brings lots of comedy to the world. It says, what's crazy to me, ain't never seen Russell Wilson hate on nobody. Bro makes his money, takes care of his family, and minds his business. It don't get no realer than that if you've seen a lot of these all men telling women how to get men that they would never date you in a million years in the first place podcast was talking about how russell wilson is like weak and sierra wouldn't be with him if he didn't have money which is hilarious that man loves her 10 toes down you see it everywhere he's constantly just praising sierra you know and it's annoying to me because i think russell

wilson like their relationship is fine or you have to cover they're like oh she would still want to be the future no she wouldn't he's mean he's very mean to her did you see how many songs he wrote when she left dumb like if somebody's a sip his future 90 songs about how he's gonna get sierra back and never got her back okay his more child calls him daddy it a sip, it's future. 90 songs about how he's going to get Sierra back and never got her back, okay? Wow. His more child calls him daddy. It's not about, it's like, get over it. Anyway, shout out to Russell Wilson for loving a woman and still getting clowned about it.

It's ridiculous. Oh, yeah. You know, people hate love, you know? It's those who don't have love that hate to see it the most. Let's see some tweets that I like. First one's from Christina, at christina e cox tweeted today when introducing world war one a student raised her hand and brought up the death of a certain archduke nobody knew his name so as a hint i offered that he shares his name with a band

gentle reader my students asked if there had perhaps been an archduke metallica but also like come on you think the kids know franz ferdinand they don't they don't they don't they don't i mean that was i think that was a moment too when you realize how old we are first melanie linsky at melanie linsky tweeted tried to throw a slightly uh neglected baby doll into the toy basket and my three-year-old shrieked, That's my daughter! I had no idea. I saw that this morning. That's so funny.

It's just the idea, like, yo, that energy of, like, that's my daughter. You forget these toys, what they do to our childhood imaginations. And then last one, lolnwe, at lolnwe tweeted, My theory is every Gen X person read a Stephen King book way too young and that's why they are the way they are. Spooked out kids reading Stephen King.

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like this is like on the precipice of like old hip-hop looks from the 90s this whole video shot like it's like 1989 with like cross colors old overalls and shit like that and the video is so dope and the tracks the track's cool too but i love the video so this is the track i want your soul by armand van helden uh so check that out obviously this uh this year podcast the production of iheart radio so for more podcasts check out the i, this year's podcast is a production of iHeartRadio. So for more podcasts, check out the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your shows. We'll see you later to talk about what's trending. And until then, take care of yourself. Bye. Bye.

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