The Daily Zeitgeist - Footlong Felon, Kim K: CHATGPT SCREWED ME 11.06.25

Episode Date: November 6, 2025

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question this is a little dark but i have to ask this if you took a shit in someone's toilet and you skid marked it you look in there you go oh damn i fucked this thing up yep would you at someone's house this is not a business it's not a neutral thing you're at a person's house would you try and clean the toilet and be like i'm not going to leave them with my own shit Like, I fucked this toilet up. I need to do this. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Do you have to go? Do you have to go right now? I need to drive to Westwood right now. Wait. What is the other option?

To leave, let it cook. Somebody did that at the homie's house. And I was like, bro, you should fucking. Oh, it wasn't you. Come on. He's asking for a friend. I'm happy. I don't have Japanese, bro.

I would die of embarrassment if I left that shit behind. But someone else, and. Yeah, you got to. You've got to because other, there's just no way. It's like happening on a murder scene. And it's like, oh, fuck.

Like, I don't know. You just, you just have to. It's a weird thing to be like. By the way, that's bad advice. You shouldn't,

if you happen on a murder scene, try and clean it up and be like, they're going to think it was me because that happens all the time in movies. It's always such a bad move. It's always like, This guy was cleaning it up. It was such a mess. I was like, somebody could get to do with this.

It was not me, though. Oh, my God. He's trying to be helpful. But, yeah, like, there's no way. It's just, I guess it would be, like, happening on a murder scene in the dark ages where they're like, well, they're going to think this with me, you know? Right, right. Yeah, and you could just get away with it. It's just odd.

I think sometimes people truly have no sense of, like, how anything is done. Lose the bowl and left? Well, how do you, I mean, it might have been. them, right? It might have been them in their own house. It was the host. No, this is a whole discussion. It was a whole party.

Like, we knew. We knew who did it. Who did it. Well, in that case, you come out and you go, yo. First, okay, how long are you in there? How long was I? What do you mean? You go into the bathroom.

You see the bruised bowl. Do you immediately open the door and be like, yo? Because I think you need, if you're in there, for like more than a minute then like if you're in and out then there's plausible deniability and you have to immediately be like yeah yeah it was more just like I wasn't

I wasn't familiar enough with the person that I could be like hey come on now right right just you left a Rothgo in here but here's the thing you know it was that person but the person after you thinks it's you it's a tough situation

it's a tough situation like when I've definitely had a situation where like, I'm in line for like a single serving bathroom at a bar or, you know, someplace. Yeah, yeah. And then you go in and the last person has fucked it up and you're like, all right, I need to get in and out so fast so that it doesn't look. Yeah, yeah. Or you're like, damn, now I can take a wild shit because I just play on the scout person.

Exactly. I just feel like it's basic, basic decency, you know. It's like really what the Boy Scouts preach, you know, you leave it how you, or leave it how you. leave no trace miles and that includes on the inside of the toilet bowl and murder scenes you know and murder scenes yeah that all all cubs scouts know that if you happen upon a murder scene you just do the crime scene wipe it up for the murder yeah so what now your eco lab do a good turn do a good turn this is an i heart podcast And she said, Johnny, the kids didn't come home last night.

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And I just did, fuck it. It's national fucking nachos day. Oh, yeah. Also, guess what, fellas? Put the apron on because it's national men make dinner day. What the fuck is this? Shout out Sunny Rollins. It's just to be clear, you're saying what the fuck is this?

Because you would never, you would never deign to make. Oddly enough. That is not my job. I cook all the meals in my home. I know you do. Yeah. I love to cook. I'm chef it up, baby.

You know what I mean? All right. I was a shout of the saxophone. Shout out. Shout out, read it instruments. You know what I mean? Oh, sorry. I missed the, is it saxophone day?

It's a national saxophone my phone day. Yeah. Saxophone. Saxophones and nachos, bro. It's your day. Great combo. Great combo. I like to eat it out of a saxophone.

Out of a saxophone. Like a little baseball helmet. My name's Jack O'Brien, A. Gorditas O'O. A.k. Aaron Liv Moss, a.k.a. spicy potato soft taco brian's. Okay, I want to fight me taco.

Those are courtesy of bottles and fans in reference to the Miles' work of media that he was enjoying yesterday, which is a little Irish girl going to Taco Bell for the first time. Opening up in Ireland. But they didn't have, they didn't have the Baja blast. They didn't have the Baja. No, I'm sorry, Hunt.

You reckon? I'm thrilled to be joined, as always, by my co-host, Mr. Miles Gray. It's Miles Gray, aka Don and Ralph, Don and Ralph, and Mike and Leo, no matter how the pizza sliced, it had to be, the only one for me is ooze and ooze for me. We're ninjas together, talking turtle teens, using their ninja to save your life, Kawabunga, baby, the streets are now safe. from Crime and Stride! Okay, shout out to the Blake Rogers on the Discord because I said, we found out that Chuck Lorry,

the creator of fucking Big Bang Theory, wrote the Teenage View and Ninja Turtle's theme song, and he said the original turtles. And just to refresh everyone's memories. Zero than a half shell, fertile power, that basically he got the gig after the studio asked the original turtles

to write the song. And I thought he was talking about literal animals, but not the group of the turtles that sang that. So shout out to you, Blake, for that. That was well done. I said yesterday that that would have sucked shit if they had the original turtles sing the. The vibe is different, but that was kind of fun.

I kind of enjoyed that. That song is when that song shows up in a thing, I'm never like not feeling it. Yeah. It always gets the vibes going. It always, it feels like kind of a mainstay for like a comedic soundtracks, though. Like in a comedic film, like you're going to get that in like a fun version. You know, like a flashback or a nightmare scene. I got to say, well executed by my co-host, Miles Greta.

Miles, we're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an award-winning comedian who you've seen on basically every TV channel in the world, every comedy festival on the globe, except Riyadh, I think. Most recently, on America's Got Talent, you can see them at the New York Comedy Club on November 14th. If comedy is still legal, after Zoranam Dani takes over, please welcome John Hastings. Oh, my geist is sighted. Hello, everybody. I want to say this, Ireland will not survive having a Taco Bell.

Understand, I had to walk a man who was 26 to a pizza slice place and talk him into having a slice of pizza because he was backpacking. across the world and it came to pass he had never eaten pizza and he is from downtown Dublin. People do not know how repressed Ireland can be in corners and if they get Baja blast, it's

over boyos. They're going to start up the troubles again. It's going to get nuts. Getting steamed off a Baja blast. They are not ready to eat a tube of bread and meat that is both soft and crunchy. They won't.

Pick aside. Some guy named Dermit just screaming Isida Putin and then throwing it at a Gardee. Yeah. It's going to be, it's going to be too much. And I think, so they opened to Taco Bell, but it's a bad Taco Bell from my understanding of this little girl's review of the Taco Bell is like she couldn't get Baja Blast. She couldn't get like some of the classics. So which I think is, that's how I was introduced to Taco Bell. And it's probably the only reason that I survived Taco Bell.

like my early 20s is like the very first Taco Bell that I had just had like soft tacos. It was like in Dayton, Ohio and it was like you could have hard tacos or you could have soft tacos and then you just ate those until you were sick, you know? Yeah, yeah, the way to do it. If I had had a fucking cheesy gordita crunch in middle school, like I'd be a different person right now and it wouldn't be for the better. You'd be in the NBA. That's what I pin it off.

on. If I had that fucking thing when I was a kid, I would have been in the fucking league, bro. Jack, I understand what we're saying. If you would have had that Gordita, you would be arrested right now for poker playing because you were in the NBA. Because I was in the NBA. Throw in games. I got those glasses. I got those glasses that can look at the marked cars. I want you to understand how weird where I am from. I'm from Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, the capital of Canada. The only Taco Bell was inside a movie theater when I was growing up. And people would go there and eat. there like it was a restaurant. They would eat it like, oh, we'll go inside this active movie theater, the famous players Coliseum in Britannia, and we're going to sit in the little

table that's just provided for you to wait for your movie to start and eat a full meal. And it's only as I'm explaining them, like, that is weird. That is weird that the entire city was like, we need, we want Mexican food. Well, it would have to be the Taco Bell in the movie theater. Yeah, well, if you want to go and get yourself a delicious gordito crunch, we're going to need to purchase a movie ticket to a little film I like to call Small Soldiers. There you go. Tommy Lee Jones. Our producer Victor Wright asked in all caps at a slightly unhinged way,

you can take Taco Bell to the movie theater with you? Yeah. Was that the deal? That was in fact the deal. You could take that or a chain that is exclusively in Canada, but inexplicably called New York fries, which specializes in taking French fries and making them wet and then you could also take that into a movie theater which is a bad

idea because teenagers go to movie theaters and say we'll throw a full putine at a screening of Gladiator which I saw happen nothing takes the gravitas away from Gladiator which each scene just having a big smeared bunch of puteen on

one side of it were they so worked up from like that battle scene where they start hurling big flaming the cannonballs or were they like this sucks as I was friends with the, as I was friends, still to this day with the perpetrator of the Putin throwing. Yeah. He would tell you, I don't like Gladiator. The real reason was his crush was dating his other best friend. And right before we went into the movie theater,

I as a 14 year old just got frustrated with all the secrets. Yeah. And then just told him. And clearly he had some issues emotionally regulated. Yeah, yeah. He also threatened to throw the a teenage boy? I know, I'm glad we're all sitting down. That's why he's, yeah. emotionally regulating? You got to keep a piece of drywall with you at all times. But here you go, man. Just punch right through this, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I got a leather belt and a bunch of room filled with ceramics. Just go in here and I'm going to explain to you while you're going to summer school. I had the same reaction to Gladiator, but it was because I had known that they were planning on casting Antonio Banderas in the lead role and changed Russell Crowe. But they never changed it to not calling him the Spaniard. I was like, that guy's not Spanish. Oh, my God. What is this shit? God. Oh, my God. Night is day, day is night. Is that true? That is true. That's bothered me the entire time. Why did they call him the Spanish? It doesn't make sense. The guy couldn't seem less Spanish. John Hastings, we're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about today. We're just going to look at the fallout from the election. It's a little, it's a little rainy outside because of some fash tears raining down upon us. So we're going to look at how they,

They're dealing with the bad electoral results for their side. And, of course, we have to check in with the legal sandwich reckoning that it is upon us. The guy who threw a sandwich at an ice agent and the ice agent reacted as if he had been attacked with a firearm of some sort. Feels like it. Yeah. And now it's like the Seinfeld episode where the like the guy got spit on and they're like quoting JFK being like back and to the left. You know, like, he's just like, and then his sandwich exploded on my chest. And then we're going to catch up with Kim Kardashian.

It's been a while. It's been a while since we last checked in with her and her Merkin, her. Oh, yeah, the Merkin. Latter-day career is the Thomas Edison of the Merkin. She's dropping all sorts of shapeware, merkinware, shapeware for your face. It just changes the shape of your face somehow, allegedly. But now she's getting into real shit, yeah. She's also a lawyer-ish working on it.

And we're going to check it with her legal career. And then her acting career, she has a new show from Ryan Murphy that the cast is completely stacked. It's like, oh, wow, Ryan Murphy shows always, like, get a big audience. The cast would suggest this was going to be a thing that exists that we're going to have to deal with and break it with. It's got Glenn Close. It's got who else. Sarah Paulson, Nisi Nash Betts, Naomi Watts. Like, what the fuck?

Naomi Watts. Naomi Watts, like multiple Oscar winners and then Kim Kardashian. And it is, it's getting unprecedentedly bad reviews. So we're going to talk about that. Plenty more. But first, John, we do like to ask our guest, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are? This is meandering, but you'll understand. I found a guy on Instagram that explains where plants and vegetables

came from and as a result I did a pumpkin deep dive last night at about 11.45 p.m. That as the father of a child was inadvised because it was an hour and a half long but are you aware of the journey humanity has had with the pumpkin?

No. Did it like start out looking totally different? It's more like we used to eat it. We used to, like it's like it grows everywhere. It's one of those things where it's like and if it not for the pumpkin, society never would have taken place. Like in the same way of like, If they had not discovered coffee, would we have had the Industrial Revolution?

You look at like the caloric intake from pumpkin at different times. And you're like, 90% of our caloric intake was pumpkin? Oh, my God. And then you're like, and now what do we do with it? Once a year, we pretend that they're a face. And then some teenagers smash them. Yeah. Yep, that tracks for this whole group.

I just had to throw away my jackal lanterns from Halloween because they were. fucked up. They were melting. They were melting. They were rotting. And they also had like a mold growing on them so fast that I was like, who touched this? Like when we were carving this, whose hands were that dirty? Once you scrape that out, though, the clock is ticking for a pumpkin.

Once you open it up, oh, man. As an official pumpkin Pete, I can explain. They rot from the inside out. So as we got them for our delicious, delightful Halloween fun, we're, basically just we're starting the clock on it yeah we're starting the clock you know what i'm saying we're uh we it's the end of the movie it's the end of the movie saw one and we're turning to them and going good luck getting out of here whatever he says and then throwing the keys in the bathroom right right right right line good luck getting out of here what i mean listen i'll be i'll be totally

honest by the end of that movie i was so freaked out i wasn't even paying attention i was just like get me out of yeah get me out of here i think i've i've done some things he's gonna saw me right Yeah, I mean, I like some pumpkin soup. I like some pumpkin pie. I do, I do enjoy those. Pumpkin seeds. We roasted ours. We roasted ours too, and they have remained untouched since we roasted them.

We seasoned the fuck out of them. And I'm like, girl, this is it. Yeah, I love it. I'm going to say this. I don't think they love it. I don't think anyone actually likes pumpkin seeds. I think we just like remembering being a child, because I think they are a terrible snack that are not good.

If you season them well, we were like season and get them greasy, so they kind of, like, fry a little bit, to give them the texture. Because normally, like, they just break into shards and you're like, I'm fucking up the inside of my mouth. But if you roast. What if some flower seeds, you didn't eat the inside? You just ate the whole thing. Would that be fun?

I also just want to say this. The whole thing of like, well, if you season it right, it's really delicious, that's true of literally everything. You put enough olive oil and salt on fentanyl, and you're going to be like, you know, not that fentanyl doesn't sell itself. But you know what I'm saying? Yeah. The lollipops.

The fentel lollipop. It's actually, they don't need any seasoning. They're pretty fine to be. A deep fried fentanylollipops, the number one delicacy at the Idaho counterfeit. What is something, John, that you think is underrated? Sending food back in a restaurant. I think it's underrated. Oh, wow.

Just for no reason? Listen, I worked in the service industry for a long time, so I never did it. And I finally at 40 years old, two and a half weeks ago, just was like, they just gave me the wrong meal completely. Right. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to send this back. and just the small amount of power you felt. Like, I'm like, yeah, I might be eating spit,

but they're going to remember me. And I'm going to tell you, I stood up for myself. Yeah, that day. Wait, are you normally you get the wrong thing and you've, for years, I just can't. As a former server and bus boy and line cook,

I can't, I can't in good conscience be like, send this back, because I just, I know what's not going to happen. Yeah. The blame game in the kitchen will begin, Some chefs are really mean.

Oh, my God. It's so mean. Or I also think even meaner people are the restaurant managers are just like, it's just like, you know, the guys that in the 90s and 2000s, they were 22 and dating a 15 year old and would explain to you in a very weird detail that it's not weird. Those guys work as a restaurant manager. Like they're just horrific people with no understanding of discipline or leadership. So they're just going to like, yeah, say something. hinged to you. I once messed up someone's cappuccino, and I'll never forget my manager went, this is why I think you're probably a disappointment to your family. And you know what?

That guy later, that guy later died and I was fine with it. I was going to be weird here, but I think we all can agree. The true moment you become an adult as someone from your past dies, and you don't feel like good or bad. You're just kind of like nothing. You're like, all right. Yeah, no, I'm going to store up my reserves. Yeah, I don't need to empathize with that guy. I didn't notice that cloud earlier. Yeah, exactly. That's exactly the energy.

That's exactly where it's just sort of like you're essentially Don Draper with the, I don't even think of you at all. But with death, so therefore even more so. That is a little. It's called power, baby. What is something you think is overrated? Being a polite driver. I think it's overrated. Well, hold on.

You're a Canadian driver. I am a polite driver. I'm waving at people and letting people in. And the more I'm more I'm on these streets, taking advantage of you. A little city of Angels, a little place they call Los Angeles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's, I think that, I think you're giving yourself a bum steer by being nice.

I think just get behind the wheel, just go for it. You know what I mean? Fuck everybody. Fuck everybody else. To a night fight. Exactly correct. I think it's time to smash the glass and walk out there like stone cold Steve Austin. You know what I'm saying?

Like just. Duranee Chan, flipping the bird, driving down the highway. And through a variety of things that will not impede. your vehicle, much like Stevie Austin did. Yes. I mean, technically we can't endorse that.

That's illegal. Sure, sure, sure. Fair. Fine. I didn't realize the wokeerati has even found us even here. In podcast. Finally, the woke

has infected at the podcast. That's right, ladies and gentlemen. Finally, a podcast has the word woke contained within it. Thank you. Yeah. First thing for everything. It's, L.A. is a wild place to drive, I will say. It can be a very frustrating place to drive. I understand why some people are mean out there. So you just like get stuck in a 45 minute traffic jam on a random block at like 11 o'clock on a Thursday night. You're just like, what? What is this? How is this happening? Have you noticed that people are meaner drivers on the weekends than during the week?

No. Wait, what do you mean? In LA, I was having this conversation with my Uber driver was making this observation to me. And ever since he did, I have noticed it. And I'm like, my loose theory is that they, on the weekdays, they just have to get to work and they don't want to go to work anyways. So they're just like, yeah, that's fine. Fucking go in, whatever. And then on the weekend, they're going someplace they want to be. And so they're like mad max out there.

But it does feel like things are a little crazier on the weekends. I'll tweak the theory a little bit. I think that you're on to something, but I think part of it is everyone in L.A. feels like on the weekend, everything should take 10 minutes in the car. I was told no one else would be driving right now. So that they encountered traffic once again on bloody Fairfax.

They're just like, it's over. You know what? I'm reversing down the on ramp of the 101. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who the fuck are these people? Yeah. Get out of my way. I need Kugel! Like, it's just absolutely just, it's mind melts and it just doesn't, it doesn't help you. That's the problem. L.A. is it just, there's never, there's never a reason. Like, you're never stuck in traffic for an hour and a half on Franklin. And then as you get to the delay, like, you see like a burned out building and like five body bags. And you're like, well, that makes sense. You get to the delay. And it's like literally just like you just see like one chips officer and a weird woman that's probably an influencer. doing her nails and you can't tell if any of that's related to the slow traffic.

He's just someone needs to pay. Her cyber truck needs a jump start. That's what we're waiting for. Yeah. Jump start. That's fucking electric. Yeah. Jesus creeper.

Miles, you've never noticed this of the life long end, Delano? Dude, I'm so dead inside when I get in my car. You know what I mean? Like I've, this is all I know.

It's just going to be bad. You're just going to be bad. All I feel is rain. How can I maintain with that shit on my brain? You know what I mean? As DMX says. I haven't, but I do understand, like, the part about being too polite because I, I believe in a little bit of karma. Sometimes you forget and you're like, oh, can you let me in? Can you let me in? And they let you let you in.

And sometimes I'll pay it forward. I'll let somebody in. But then there are people like on the interchanges who are trying to skirt all the backup. And at the last second cut in, bro, that's when I'm like, I'm like a fucking like civil war general. I'm like, hold the line. Don't let that motherfucker in. We was all here waiting. We was all here waiting. We was Oh, here, wait. And this motherfucker in a Tesla or BMW thinks they can just fuck. That's when I fucking get incense. And I'll nearly rear end the person in front of me to keep it fucking tight, baby. I light up that horn in that instance in a way that I describe as I will die in a road rage incident because someone will murder me.

Because I like, we're not talking a beep. I'm talking a full like as if I passed out head down on the horn. Right, right. if someone does that. And I will then try and find the person that cut in on the highway. Yeah. Give them a little business as well. That's free. Take that with you.

You start repeating their license plate number to yourself. I mean, you were making a joke, but I have 100% like mentally been like 789, 789, 789, 789. Yeah. I would like to say one last thing. Have you also noticed certain L.A. neighborhoods far angrier drivers than you're expecting. For example, you think Pasadena is a pleasure. And you're a fool. It's a basket of, it's a basket of rage between at any time.

You driving in Pasadena, like just a blue-haired granny driving her, like, wide Cadillac from 1987 back and forth to Gelson's. Like, we'll literally, are you a cunt barrel? And then just, like, it's just like, whoa. Yeah. It's anywhere, it's all the neighborhoods that were redlining that are like that. It's like Beverly Hills, too. You know, people just drive for some reason. Oh, Beverly Hills.

I used to exclusively ride a bike in Los Angeles. Yeah, that's right. I'm a fool. And yes, I nearly died. You will definitely lose your life in Beverly Hills on a bike. Every time you'd bike into Beverly Hills within three minutes, there'd be a cop car behind me, which I'm just like, okay, so this is where the money is clearly being spent, that there is some sort of rat. Look, he's on a bicycle, but he is white. I assume he's a drug dealer, but he's probably the head of the cartel.

He's probably Russian. He's probably Russian or something. Yeah, he's probably a Chechen. Yeah. We've got a bike. Yeah. It can't be riding a bike. Come on.

Yeah, moving along. That little bell. It's probably filled with cocaine. All right. Let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about some news. We'll be right back.

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The other tried for murder. Not once. People went wild. Not twice. Stunned. But three times. John and Ann Bender are rich and attractive, and they're devoted to each other.

They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular circular home high on the top of a hill. But little by little, their dream starts to crumble and our couple retreat from reality. They lose it, they actually lose it. They sort of went nuts. Until one night, everything spins out of control.

Listen to Hell in Heaven on the I-Heart radio app. Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. We're back. And for people who didn't catch our election update, breaking news, clax and symbol, claxon symbol. The Democrats had a pretty good night on Tuesday. Zeran Mamdani did well. He won.

And that he won his race. Yeah, did really well, I'd say. One is dang race. And then some more moderate Democrats, one in Virginia and New Jersey, and Prop 51 in California. And just generally people seem to be displeased with the direction of the country is going at the moment. It would seem. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's interesting to just see the now all of the finger pointing and cope that's happening with MAGA right now.

because their responses somewhere like they sound like the Democrats last November when they're like surely we can't be this bad right like is are we getting this right and the first thing we know is that we don't suck shit right right that's we're doing everything good guys I've got some bad news you're really bad at this you suck yeah we talked about how like Hannity was like the vibes are so bleak right now um but on newsmax they were also trying to like wrap their head around this victory and it was a little it was a little tough for them too they were just trying to be like i think maybe the the democrats are like trying to weaponize the shutdown or something here's them kind of trying to figure it all out wasn't on the ballot and shutdown were the two reasons that

republicans lost elections tonight huh okay tom yeah do you think yeah that they weaponize the food and the shutdown yeah look hold on weaponize the food do you think they Weaponized the food. Is this in reference to our next story? The guy who threw a sandwich at something? No, it's about fucking snap benefits. I want to be a right-wing talking head because it is literally you just get to be your most you you've ever been. Like you just say random nouns with verbs and you get to just have, I assume, a six-figure income and a dressing room.

Yeah. Is it possible that they juzoo-jaja the wiki-wee-h-h-h-h-h-and-and people be like, Well, he's on to something. As long as you say immigrants at the end, but they'll go on and they say, maybe they did weaponize the food, meaning people's snap benefits. That means like people feeling bad that they're starving because they can't afford food. Do you think that putting, revealing how craven and inhumane you are as a party to illegally deny snap benefits? I mean, or weaponize food.

As we call it, weaponizing the food. That's called weaponizing it, Miles. And I would like you, I would like you to turn down that condescension. Yeah. First of all, as we all know, when it comes to poor people, they're choosing that. They could, they could choose to be from a country club family, but they chose to be poor. Hand me my bootstraps. Oh, my God.

Here we go. Here's the rest of this. Hand me my bootstraps. Tom. Yeah, do you think that they weaponize the food and the shutdown? Yeah, look, everybody was saying, well, why are they digging in their heels? Why are the Democrats doing that? Well, if you wanted a win in Virginia, if you wanted to win the governor's race in the AG's race in Virginia, for instance,

you have the highest per capita percentage of public employee union members and federal workers, all of whom have been furloughed, all of them were ticked off, and all they did was show up to vote. They showed up in huge numbers in northern Virginia today. Made a big difference, I think, in that race, and I think it also made a difference in the AG's race as well. And perhaps the shutdown was kind of kept going by Democrats for that very reason. Exactly. I can't claim. Strategy.

Yeah. And I mean, I think a lot of reports also we're hearing, oh, well, the shutdown will probably end this week. Why? Because the election is over. The lady said, do you do weaponize the food? Also says strategy. Strategy. Do we think it's their strategy to weaponize the food?

The sweetest chef disguised as a fucking journalist, right? Wait a second. Where are my food cheese stars? Okay. Yeah. weaponizing the food and also that they did the shutdown to win the election is pretty 4D some 4D chess there definitely conspiracy yeah it's also just what's very interesting about this whole thing and it is similar to the democrats last year is they don't want to say what the actual

problem the democrats last year didn't want to say what the actual issue is and the republicans now don't want to point of the same thing which is like oh the only reason we won is because a bunch of billionaires poured hundreds of millions of dollars into our campaign at the very last second and oh, and this time they didn't do that. And like, you know what I mean? Like, oh, yeah. And to your point, it's like, oh, I think we lost because they figured out we're evil. Yeah.

Fuck. I mean, we talked yesterday about how Brett Bayer was saying, like, this could actually be good, okay? It's actually good because then people know socialism bad. Steve Bannon pretty much, like, responded directly to that quote on his show. He said, quote, all those Republicans sitting there with their bow ties sitting there going, oh we want a socialist in charge so we can see how people fail they're bolsheviks they're not going to give up control of new york city once they infest new york city it's going to take a trenching tool to get them out damn so i'm optimistic there's like a lot of violent rhetoric i would yeah like the the mom dani like i hope he has a good

security team now in place because of the way the republicans are talking about it is pretty frightening uh when taking the context of who they're talking to is is pretty scary i will say also that like this overall model of having two parties that are the only two options who predominantly like not momdani like kind of being the outlier but like predominantly have a solution to a problem that's caused by the current system of neoliberalism that is like basically just more of the same and they just like go back and forth between each other having parties having power like it just seems like we're in a system right now where so long as that's the case it's just going to be whoever's in power gets voted out and it's just going to like keep going back and forth until someone can fix it still someone figures out actually like does something different yeah and so that does seem like it's like everyone's like well you know Virginia usually votes for whoever lost the last election but that's

frequently the case. And the reason is because our current system does not do good things for people. it does good things for corporations. I think that it's a race to see, like, depending on who gets in power in the next couple of presidential elections, it is going to be either someone who writes the ship and is the idea of like, hey, we're actually going to just address a couple of these problems and watch as things flower and calm down. It's like, oh, if you address wealth inequality, all sorts of other problems are magically also fixed as a result of. Or it's going to be the other way and it's going to be like, hey, guys, we're doing Nazi Germany again. Only it's America and that's what we're seeing now. Let's roll. That's what we're seeing now and people seem to be, thankfully, being like, this seems, this feels bad.

Yeah. This seems generally like not a good direction. Like we've mentioned a couple times this week that Trump is the most unpopular. He's ever been as president right now. And he's, I was like talking to my friend about this. I was like, and he's like barely even a year into office. And he was like, dude, he's not a year. Like this is still his first year and he's lost all goodwill and is like now more unpopular than it was the day after January 6th.

But I think also what is happening is also the support system around him is falling away because as each day of his presidency continues, it's each day closer to either him attempting to run for a third term and then a bunch of people get to make political hay opposing him or he just rides off into the sunset and there is a, I don't know, a Nick Fuentes-led Republican Party. Like, it's one of the, you're seeing the interesting thing play out is both like all these amazing elections of Democrats. But the other thing you're seeing playing out is like Marjorie Taylor Green trying to stake out a place to the left of Tucker Carlson. Because they're both aware that they're probably in contention for the presidential nomination in 2028, which let me just say this right now. strap in for Tucker R.F.K. Jr. ticket versus, I assume, Martery, Taylor Green, and an AR-15. Those debates are going to rule. Yeah, yeah. There'll be a lot of screaming and a lot of weird anti-Semitic conspiracy theories being thrown out for sure.

I think it's going to be full mask off. Like, I think one of them is going to look down the camera on Fox News and say a hard and word. And I'm going to say who that person is going to be, Mitch McConnell. Surprise. He's coming back in. But it's him trying to say Nigeria mid-stroke, though. Exactly. I'm completely misinterpreted. Does anyone else remember when his hand just turned black on the floor of the Senate? Like, I don't think that that's, that's not analyzed enough there. It's just like 12 health crises ago.

Like, before he started, like, God pressed pause on him. Yeah. Oh, my God. When someone asked him a question, he's like, what's that? It's like, oh, God, you can't even listen and walk at the same time. Trump, though, predictably, is very. angry about this and in a breakfast with senators on Wednesday morning he called on them to just fucking kill the filibuster and start ramming through a bullshit voter suppression laws he was like

we need more voter ID we just need more voter ID we got to get to it but like in virginia where the GOP got their fucking shit kicked in they have voter ID laws there already yeah and I think the fact that he wants the filibuster gone because like we just got to end the shutdown he's he because again he's tying the loss to the shutdown. He's saying kill the filibuster so you can end the shutdown and just put our own fucked up version of the budget through.

I think ultimately he realizes like this is this has to be fucking sorted out and the whole idea that he can just fucking duck low and let the Democrats catch all the heat for it. It's just fucking not working at all. I don't want to be in Alex Jones, but allow me to declare war on your info.

Also, we are not analyzing enough the Maxwell family is clearly leaking emails to the press and Prince Andrew is literally no longer a prince and they've moved him to a cottage at a cliff's edge because whatever I think is going to come out is going to be like an email where it's like, I did it, Prince Andrew. So if that's what they have on Prince Andrew,

my assumption is they got some real good stuff on Donald Trump as well. And I think also Trump's freak out is we just need to create a bunch of things happening so when that comes out, I have things that I can attempt to deflect to. Yeah, like a war against Venezuela or whatever. Exactly. Like, it's just not going to happen because he kind of, as it turns out, a bunch of those people voted for in last year because they got, like, they got so into QAnon after baking Sowador bread during lockdown too.

They're like, they, Jeffrey Epstein kept a co-related trapper keeper of all the bad people that he who did business with and then we get to see. them, and then it's going to be on court TV, and I... Hell yeah. And then my ex-wife's going to be on the list, and I get to win that argument. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's where we're kind of at in society. And I think Donald Trump knows that.

And he's like, we need to get this government back open because, like, I did it. Right. It's going to be hard, though, too, because government reopening means swearing in Adelita Grahalva and then getting your 218th signature to the discharge petition that would force a vote on the Epstein files. And even then, I'm like, whatever. I think we're going to go from, like, bombing of boats in international waters to literally him dropping smoke bombs in press conferences to, like a ninja? Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I genuinely think we might, I don't think we're going to get like a nuclear bomb drop, but he might moab something. Like if they're like, we're releasing the files and he's like, Fiji ain't no shit. Moab. Like, you know what I mean? Like, who knows? That's what's, I think that's what's also just alarming because you see how he's, he's, He takes inspiration from other autocrats, and he's like, hmm, okay, so I need to find a way to declare

martial law. I need some false flag stuff. I need an absolute distraction in like a foreign policy region to maybe bring people into this like wartime mindset to get support around the president, but yeah, I mean, at this rate, I think at the end of the day, people are still like, we don't, most people are like, I don't give a fuck about what's happening abroad. This, like, we're dying. here right now. Can you do something for that? We'll see. Yeah.

I also want to say this. Why do we have to ask, why does anyone need to listen to Trump at this point? Like literally, if you just parked him in two rooms of the White House, just that feat of Newsmax we watched, you pay one person just to be that news anchor on Fox and just repeating like, today, actually, McDonald's is totally healthy. And Donald Trump, new inch on his penis.

I guarantee, like, first of all, truth social would be so interesting to follow at that point because you're like, let's just see what he. he's reacting to thinking if we just give him what he thinks everything's happening and we just do a do-over election but that's your that's yeah that's your solution as a not maga person where all the people that work for him are just so terrified they're just like fuck man I wish I could do the TV idea but instead I just have to fucking lie to his face like everything's fucking right yeah like I want him to be mad of me yeah I wonder because there's the it depends on which sources like you listen to

stupid Michael Wolfe who's basically now just the entire daily beast it's just Michael Wolfe. Actually, I was speaking to someone, and I don't think Trump actually knows where his bathroom is. But if you listen to him, like, every staffer of the White House is both in fear, but also, like, hates Trump and wants to leave, but they like the access. Like, it's just like, it's the weirdest. Yeah. It's Hollywood for ugly people, baby. That's what they say. It's Hollywood for ugly people. All right. We do, let's take a quick break. And then when we come back, we do have to talk about. I mean, sometimes you just get to see the face. of true evil, you know, like a villain that chills you to your bone. Yeah, yeah. And we're talking, of course, about Sean Dunn, the guy that...

Done through that sandwich? The guy who threw the sandwich assassin. Yeah. What type of sandwich was it? Exactly. Well, we're going to get into all the gory details when we get back. On the podcast Health Stuff, we are taxed. all the health questions that keep you up at night.

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First episode, how Southwest Airlines use cheap seats and free whiskey to fight its way into the airline business. The most Texas story ever. There's a lot of mavericks in that story. We're going to have mavericks on the show. We're going to have plenty of robber barons. So many robber barons.

And you know what? They're not all bad. And we'll talk about some of the classic great moments of famous business geniuses, along with some of the darker moments that often get overlooked. Like Thomas Edison and the electric chair. Listen to Business History on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. In the new podcast, Hell in Heaven, two young Americans moved to the Costa Rican jungle to start over.

But one will end up dead. The other tried for murder. Not once. People went wild. Not twice. Stoned. But three times. John and Anne Bender are rich and attractive,

and they're devoted to each other. They create a nature reserve and build a spectacular, circular home, high on the top of a hill. But little by little, their dream starts to crumble, and our couple retreat from reality. They lose it. They actually lose it. They sort of went nuts.

Until one night, everything spins out of control. Listen to Hell in Heaven on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. And we're back. And so the trial started, trial of the century. Many sandwich enthusiasts are calling it. This is the guy who threw a sub sandwich. I mean, Miles, you describe, I don't actually talk about this guy, he cut short the life of a poor ice agent's ballistic fest when he sullied it with a sandwich. And we talked, look, the trial started this week.

And we talked about how Janine Piro's been taking a lot of L's with grand juries trying to prosecute Americans for fucking nothing as a way to intimidate people. Well, she tried to get the sandwich guy in a felony. and the fucking Grange's like, they're like, get the fuck out of here. What are you talking about? So now she's going back trying to get him on a fucking misdemeanor. Okay?

And the whole thing, just people that are reporting from the trial, it sounds like as stupid as it is to try and charge someone for throwing a sub sandwich at a guy and then running. Border Patrol agent Gregory Laramore is on the stand. This is all from a blue sky account

from Dave Jameson, who was like reporting from the courtroom. So these are some of his posts on Blue Sky. quote border patrol agent gregory laramore is on the stand narrating surveillance video of the sammy tas quote now he struck me with the sandwich laramore says border patrol agent laramore now testifies that he was not injured by the sandwich but he felt the impact through his ballistic vest jesus yeah this is what he felt the impact yeah dude wait hey imagine what would happen if you know someone shot at him through the fucking ballistic fest sorry for swearing this is it that's it's it's

He said the sandwich came apart and, quote, kind of exploded on his chest upon impact. Quote, I could smell the onions and mustard. Cue fortunate son now, okay? Because this guy is having a flashback. Please help him. How is this guy still walking on two feet after all this? But then this is the best part. The cross-examination from the defense is like, okay, so it exploded.

This is from the defense. Defense is now questioning Larimore on cross-examination. They show videos still of the sandwich and wrap around the. the ground post throw. The attorney asks, quote, do you recognize that sandwich? Hi. Leromor, the sandwich exploded. Laramore won't confirm, quote, I did not go back to collect it, he says. The defense team presses Laramore on whether the sandwich really, quote, exploded. They returned to the photo of the sandwich and wrapper on the ground. Defense asked, quote, that sandwich hasn't exploded at all, has it? Laramore replies, quote, it looks like a little bit

is coming out towards the bottom. I love a shithead prosecutor defense lawyer type like just clearly you're lying. Clearly you're lying and now I've got you. Also, sorry, you want to go ahead and identify that sandwich there?

That sandwich look familiar. Also, here's something they never say. I have never seen a police officer help themselves on the stand. Like you actually look into like, we don't have that image. of law and order and it's Lenny Briscoe and he's like and then he told me a social insurance social security number and I knew it had to be the murderer because he was covered in blood and then you actually watch any time a police officer gets on the stand and it's just like and so what did

you see and it's just like the the accused do the crime and then you go to the camera show it's like well there's you you're wearing a you're wearing a blindfold and you're holding a sign that says on your blindfold and it cannot see there's a boot on your head and a a bucket on your foot. Yeah, you're in a concrete tunnel underneath where the crime. Yeah, it was purported to have taken place. Your pants keep falling down. And you discharged your weapon three times to, quote, unquote, get some light in this goddamn room.

Well, it eventuated that at about 1,400 out, you know, they just put it in cop speak, cop jargon so that it sounds like, I mean. Yeah, you know, it was 1045 doing a double triple. And I just had myself to talk about from Dublin. Yeah, we've got a foot long here. The defensive strategy is pretty sound because they're just trying to show the jury how fucking stupid this whole thing is. And they even asked the shell-shocked ice agent about like all the gag gifts that his fellow coward colleagues were giving him after the incident. They're like, hey, so what kind of stuff they're giving you after this terrible ordeal?

He's like, I got a subway, like a sandwich plush toy that one guy gave me and a patch that said felony footlong put on my tack vest. and he was apparently even, like, kind of laughing on the stand about it. So, wait, so the rare, wait, so is this a bit defense? Right, right, right. We're trying to determine if the state is bringing the charges as a bit. It's a bit, right? Your Honor, objection, I think I'm being zinged. Right, right, 100%.

We're trying to put him in jail as a goof, Your Honor. I mean, look, this is why Janine Prio probably should have got Kim Kardashian to probably prosecute this better than the freaks they have in that office right now. I like Superduser Victor's idea of having Dr. Loomis from Halloween, the guy who like always shows up and is like, I pray, you know, like he's just, his job is to describe Michael Myers to people

after Michael Myers has killed someone next door to them. I prayed that he would burn in hell, but in my heart I knew that hell would not have him. Just like come up and describe the sandwich throw. Right, right. So in the movie, He goes, I've been trick or treated to death tonight. And he shows up and goes, you don't know what death is.

Wow. Wow. What's amazing about Dr. Loomis as a character is if you follow through what he did as a doctor, he's maybe the worst person ever to practice medicine in cinema. Because it's like, you discovered that this child was capable of black magic and maybe Satan's pawn on earth to reap death for demons. and your solution was, I'm going to read it some nice books and hope it doesn't escape. Yeah, yeah.

That's one way. One one, Donnie. Yeah. What are you, the president during escape from New York? Sorry, same a minute. The sandwich exploded like that bird when hit by Randy Johnson's fastball. Do we have any idea of what the contents of the sandwich were besides onions and mustard? Now, that narrows it obviously.

It could be tuna, but that's a, that's an off-piece tuna. But that's a, that's a, that's an off-piece tuna. Because if it were tuna, it probably would have exploded, based on my understanding of physics. Yeah, depending on how damp the bread is. Yeah. And it wasn't a planned attack, right? The guy, I think I remember his account, yeah, his account coming in was just that saw ice agents doing fuck shit, had a big sandwich in his hand and could not help his shit. Yeah, I mean.

And then ran and they couldn't even catch him on foot. And then they're like, fuck it. We got this guy's address, and then they got him at home. Are you kidding me? They didn't even catch this guy. Like, he threw a sandwich and they had to, they had to fugitive him. Yeah, they did not apprehend him right away. No.

Yeah. Your fugitive was carrying a Quiznose foot long. Yeah. I mean, to be fair to those ice agents, it was the first time they ever rang in with all that gear on. Right. That's tough. That's tough stuff, dude. Have you tried to do three push-ups?

All right. I do want to talk about another great TV lawyer besides Lenny Briscoe, and that is, of course, Kim Kardashian. She's been making some headlines lately. Usually it's my sign to tune out a news story, but some of these are pretty entertaining. Recently, she admitted that she isn't a lawyer yet, yet. Oh, okay. And one of the reasons is she kept using chat GPT to study slash cheat, and it, quote, often gave the wrong answer, causing her to, quote, fail tests all the time.

What does she think being a lawyer is? Like, I don't understand. Like, I... I will say we have a number of stories of judges having to reject lawyer, like, lawyers work and, like, proofs and what, you know, whatever the fuck lawyers do. For being, like, you clearly use Chad GBT. Like, these are made up cases that you're citing as president. Oh, no. Beggers be too.

Losers was a landmark case. Okay. So, yeah, I just want to read this quote where someone was asking her about her use of chat GPT. No, I use it for legal advice. So when I'm needing to know the answer to a question, I'll take a picture and snap and, like, put it up there. And then someone asks her whether she was cheating and she clarified that it was just

to study for her tests. They're always wrong. It has made me fail tests all the time. And then I'll get mad and I'll like yell at it. and be like, you made me fail. Why did you do this? Yeah. And it'll reply.

And it'll talk back. I think she was saying after her. And like, yeah, I just have to yell at it a little bit. Cool, cool. Again, it's weird that I expected a little bit more from Kim Kardashian. I didn't think she would scream at a LLM for trying to replace her own intellect. You made me fail, machine. I don't know why.

I thought maybe. I've always suspected she was, like, smarter than she's letting on. And, like, I do think, like, she plays up this stuff to, like, just, I don't know, like, as a character on keeping up with the Kardashians. I think as someone who has probably never had to earnestly study in their life, that she would look at chat GPT as a way to, like, augment her studies for it and somehow feel let down because she's like, this is perfect. This is exactly what I needed as someone who doesn't want to do the work. However, there are signs that the chat GPT leakage has gone further. Another reason she's in the news is a behind-the-scenes clip from her new show, All's Fair, which we're going to get to, involves her telling Sarah Paulson, like great actor, Sarah Paulson, that the moon landing isn't real, citing interviews with Buzz Aldrin and the other one. Come on, chat GPT couldn't give you that answer.

When she said the other one, did she mean the guy that we always forget was also up there, or she just couldn't remember Neil Armstrong's game? I think she couldn't remember Neil Armstrong's name. Yeah, yeah. But to be clear, neither, none of the three people who went to the moon have ever suggested that the moon landing was faked. And in fact, there's a great video where Buzz Aldrin confronts a person, like a famous moon hoaxer. and literally punches him in the face. I was going to say, didn't, like, speaking of a court case,

there was a court case as a result, because Buzz Aldrin's a man in the Air Force from the 60s. Like, he's going to, he's going to spit, he's going to drink red meat, and he's going to hit you. How dare you? I think it was fake. I've seen a few videos on Buzz Aldrin

talking about how it didn't happen. He says it all the time now in interviews. Maybe we should find Buzz Aldrin. Do you ever think about that? No. You ever think about maybe finding Buzz Aldrin, maybe asking him what's real and what's not? What happened to people taking into account who they are when it came to their opinions? You know what I mean?

If I'm Kim Kardashian, I'm sitting there being like, okay, I'm famous because my mom and I orchestrated gossip columnists and released a sex tape at the right time to go into reality TV show that's really a sitcom, I probably don't understand. rocket propulsion. On which I play a fool. Like on the sitcom that is purportedly a reality show, I play a fool. Yeah. I'm a dumb idiot who's stupid. Maybe I don't know. Like maybe I don't know what the Van Allen radiation belt really is capable of.

No, but I have seen a out of context clip from a Conan O'Brien interview with both Alder. So the thing they're talking about is a Conan O'Brien interview where he Conan interviewed Aldrin and he described how broadcasters used animation during news reports at the time and people were like, see, they just cut out all the context and I think maybe he was like explaining why there are conspiracy theories. Well, yeah, because you're saying it was intercut with the actual legitimate footage and he's like that that little bit of ambiguity. It was just like, yeah, well, they did that kind of shit, but not it's fake. Because she says shit like the flag, like there's no wind on the moon, like doing all that.

Like bullshit, it's like, yeah, they did that. They knew there would be no wind on the moon, and therefore, we're ready for that. It's kind of crazy. Two last things you say. Why? And I know this was referenced by a comedian Nick Mullin during stand-o special, but I'll say it anyway. If they were going to do something like that, why would they leave so many clues? Right.

You know what I mean? Like, first of all, you're not hatching. We need to fool the Soviet Union that we're at the moon, and we're going to do it with a bunch of famous people who are going to leak the information. Right. The other thing is, when it comes to conspiracy theories, it's just like, it's either, like, you can always find, there's always just a guy that just lied and claimed it. In the case of the moon landing, it was probably a bunch of other Nazis who wanted to

counter the Nazis that did the moon landing. You know what I mean? Like, I literally know the guy that started the modern flat earth movement. I started open mic stand up comedy with him. Right. And he would show up at the coffee shop I worked at in steel muffins and his apartment building had no plumbing. Like, this is just, it is what it is, guys.

And I assume the moon landing not happening was started by. I think there's definitely some KGB seating in there. Like that, that was something that they were working on getting out there because they didn't want to, you know, admit the race. The U.S. got there first. Yeah. That would be fun. I'd like if the KGB was involved.

You know what I mean? Just a guy named Boris, maybe they didn't do it. Yeah. I mean, they had a pretty prominent role in, early JFK assassination conspiracy theories. So anyways, one reason she might be pursuing in, in quotes, her legal degree is to as like method acting preparation for her new role in Ryan Murphy's All's Fair, which the cast is fucking stacked.

It's just like they're, I don't know, it's like when Doc Rivers' son played on that, like, stacked Clippers team. And he was just like, I don't know if everybody else is really good, maybe. Yeah, maybe you can carry this person, which doesn't work on acting because you do it, you act for yourself. And then the other actors got to do their acting. So if you're a great actress or, you know, someone like Naomi Watts and then you cut to Kim Kardashian doing her line, that might that, it might be actually worse that juxtaposition.

Sarah Paulson, Tiana Taylor, Glenn Close, Naomi Watts, all, you know, in, um, Oscar conversations of various points. The show is sitting at, on Rotten Tomatoes, sitting at zero, an unprecedented, the very rare 0% on Rotten Tomatoes. To be fair, it's now at 6%. It got up to 6%. They got, they saw the zero, they saw that they were getting bad press for that, and they got there somebody to go out and write a positive review for it.

Yeah. The reviews are fairly unambiguous. The Guardian called it Fascinatingly, incomprehensibly, existentially terrible, and so awful, it feels almost contemptuous. Oh, Jesus. Another critic called it unwatchable,

a crime against television, and possibly the worst television drama ever made, again, with actors who are kind of above being on TV. Like, in many cases, you're like, oh, damn, like, that's wild that they're doing a TV show. Like, this must be prestige, to quote, Super Producer on a hoax. those names. That's some prestige casting.

And the Knightley called it, said it's not a hate watch. It's unwatchable. This is actually making me more interested now. It does, like, I don't know. If it's that bad, you kind of got to know, right? It's like watching Cutthroat Island when it came out because it was so bad. First of all,

Cutthroat Island is not that bad. I watched it again in the pandemic. And let me just say this. It's real fun. Yeah, it's stupid. But it's a pirate movie. Like, oh, the cannonballs would make things explode. All right. Fine. Yeah, Gina Davis also wouldn't have that rosy of a skin. On a ship, yeah, right now.

Eat my butt. I don't care. Also, that monkey wouldn't be a fun companion. Are we going to pull at all these threads? Yes. I will say, speaking of Eat My But, some of those plot lines do make it seem like it would be campy fun, which the fact that it has these plot lines and it manages not to be fun for many reviewers is pretty kind of an achievement. achievement all on its own. Some clips have surfaced online

when a husband is being grilled for his butt plugs and pig costume fetish, and Watts and Kardashian tell him that the negotiation so far has been just the tip. It'll be so much more painful, the deeper we go.

Which seems like it's beneath Naomi Watts. I don't know. Yeah. Is that... I mean, she must have spent all that 21 grams money or something. Yeah, I like this period of time because what we've learned is anyone who is famous is just a shill for money. Yeah. If the Riyadh Comedy Festival and this drama has taught us nothing,

it's that like everyone has a price and it's vaguely lower than you realize. Like, it's one of those things where it's like, yeah, they'll just do it for money. Like, I'm sure, like, I guarantee Glenn Close was like sipping Chardonnay and didn't learn her lines. Because she's like, it's a Kim Kardashian drama, darling. All improv. They're like, they like, father was an ambassador. That's fair. Like, it's just like, I get like, yeah, it's crazy that all.

these great performers were with this terrible weird person from Calabasas but also if we really analyze it. Calabasas, which means pumpkins. No. Yes. Is that true?

That is. Yeah. I don't believe you. How about that? I promise. Yeah. I smell something, Jack. Do you know what I smell?

Rotten pumpkins. No, your pants and they are a flame. Oh. Da. I fucking should have known that one. No, it's because the Spanish is calabasa. Calabasa. So calabasasasas.

I guess could be a squash technique but hey, same family. Vulture has also pointed out that the show has an insidious vein of Islamophobia, which is just what we need at this point, including a plot point about a sheikh who wants to behead his wife and closest character

is apparently a Golda Meyer superfan. Oh, wow. The Israeli prime minister who said there's no such thing as Palestinians. So we'll see. It's too early to tell where maybe the sheik is secretly the good guy. and the Goldemeyer fan is revealed to be not a good person.

It's too soon to know, but the only way to find out how bad and evil the show is, is to tune in. What if this was a piece of paid marketing for the show? Just tearing it down. I feel like it's got to be like somewhat effective. Like I, having done this story, kind of want to watch it. I mean, I think what I'll look at the clips that are on social first to see if they're, they'll probably, I'm probably just going to have raised the hairs on my neck, and I'll be like, I can't, there's already too much going on. I can't waste my time with this. But it'll be worth of gander. I want to watch it the same way that I used to like take shots of tequila with Tabasco in it. You know, it's like some part of me that wants to hurt myself.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which streamer is this on? I'm sorry if I missed that. Hello? Hello. I was going to say, this doesn't feel like a, this feels like one of the, the, let's throw something at the wall streamers. Like this is, this has peacock here. Hulu and every once in a while a little stream around I like to call Max written all over it. You've not come back from the, you went under to the max side and you haven't come up come back with the rest of us to the HBO Max site. I only switched, I only stopped calling it HBO Go.

Right. Well, John, a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. Where can people find you, follow you, all that good stuff? You can find me and all find good social media. media's at the John Hastings. That's at the John Hastings. And I have a bunch of stand-up specials up on YouTube. The most recent ones are a somewhat special at a mall.

Two parts, one material, one crowdwork. Please go find those where you find good comedy, which is YouTube. It's just on YouTube. There you go. Great. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying? There is a work of media I have been enjoying. Are you ready for this?

Yes. It's called Tournament of Champions. Guy Fierry hosts all the different amazing food network hosts in a single elimination battle to the death. And they're about to put out season seven, which is holiday themed. And it's the greatest television show I've ever watched my entire life. No negativity, all positivity. Guy Fierry, for some reason wearing diamond cowboy boots because he thinks that's a suit. Treating cooking like it is football, I can't get enough.

It's on a little streamer I like to call HBO. go go. Okay. We all need to call that. Miles, where can people find you? Is there a work in media you've been enjoying? Yeah, you can find me everywhere at Miles of Gray. You find me talking about 90-day fiancé on 420-day fiancé. And, you know, there is a soccer show coming up soon that will be announced fairly shortly where I get to talk about the Premier League. And that leads me to my favorite piece of media, because that's from Paul F. Tompkins, who posted, it's been creeping up on me for a few years now, but more. and more and more. I am seeing the real possibility of me getting into soccer. It's just a matter of time. Let it wash over you. Let it wash over you and dive in. Okay. Mm-hmm. It's a great sport. It's a great sport. Miles. What's that a on your hat for? You can only mean one thing, baby. Damn it. Yeah. Sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I lived in, I lived in Lundj. I lived in Finsbury Park next to the Arsenal Football Ground. And I don't want to speak. In blanket terms, but all Arsenal fans are poo eaters. Oh, wow. Interesting.

Can I imagine what sad sort you are. I don't even like football. I don't even like football. It's just an observation. It's one of those things where it's like, I'm not even, I'm not even being like, look. Can we imagine what sad sort you are is like such a underhanded drive? It's usually what happens when, yeah. Yeah.

You seriously. You imagine what sort of sad sort of sad sort of. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Can I imagine what you lot are up to then? Yeah, what, how you crow out of feel you smell so bad? Oh, yeah.

All right. Talking of me, you? All right. You can find me on Twitter at Jack underscore O'Brien on Blue Sky. Jack O'Brien, on Blue Sky, Jack O'B, the number one. We'll also have a new format of TDZ, kind of a new show, new version of TDZ coming up. We'll probably drop the first couple episodes in this feed, see how everybody likes it. It's about icons.

We're in the lab. That's all I'm going to give away. We're in the lab. And guess what? It's fun. Jack and I said, we want to do a show where we laugh. We want to do a show where we don't want to die at the end of recording it. And this is it.

Yeah, so we're going to do a fun show. Work of media I've been enjoying. Philippe Lemong tweeted, if you feel like you're bad at your job and it's making you depressed, just consider that as the investigation of the recent heist revealed, the password to access the Louvre's video surveillance system was Louv. No. Yeah.

Damn. First of all, don't be depressed that you're bad at your job. Who cares? None of this matters. But yeah, everybody sucks at their job. Everybody who acts like they don't suck at their job is just trying to pretend. We're all terrible. Don't worry about it.

And not sucking at your job is selling out. You can find us on Twitter and Blue Sky at Daily Zekegeist. We're at The Daily Zekegeist on Instagram. go to the description of this episode wherever you're listening to it and there at the bottom you will find deep footnotes which is where you will link off

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A little Sandler, little Billy Madison. We were just talking before the show about how, like, ASAP Rocky doesn't have to make music anymore because he married rich. And then that got me just lamented, or just just being sad for the days of the early ASAP Rocky era. And so let's just go out on Palace by ASAP Rocky

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